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scoring that many points is amazing, but that also shows the team's overly relying on him. He scored 2/3 of the total pts. Ok, when he's hot (shooting over 50%) and was able to lead the team to a win. But on a poor day when he shoots around 25-35%, he's not able to carry the team for a win. That's the effectiveness that he lacks when u compare him to either jordan/bird/johnson and etc. To make it short, on a poor day, he's not effective to make his teammates to contribute to a win. And u say he's better than mj? Gotta think twice.

and whoever says it's hard to score this many pts nowadays, it's way harder to score this many pts back in the 80's or 90's cuz the nba was all about hard ball at the time. Nowadays they are playing softer now. Remember the detroit bad boys era, they were playing real rough to take u out of your game. Does anybody in nba still do that now? Can't imagine if guys like vince carter playing in that era and how many games he would last ...

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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-23 07:15 PM:

乜嗰時除左活塞外仲有其他球隊打佢地的"bad boy " 風格ge咩?

u know the celtics in the 80's, players like danny ainge was dirty but they weren't as explicit as the pistons in the 90's. They literally grab u in the nuts and pull your leg hair to stop u from driving to the hoop. NBA now is not as hard ball so u see a lot of highflyers or highflying moves, just a lot flashier than the past if u have watched the nba for more than a decade.

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Originally posted by brightlee at 2006-1-24 08:23 PM:


Yes, there are not many people in here know the meaning for "Bad Boys" in late 80s.
Except Joe Dumars, everyone in Pistons, their defends.........

ya they were playing real rough, but mj was so determined that he would overcome these bad boys. I know a friend who knows joe dumars' cousin. His cousin watched all these games that mj played against the pistons. Who would be that lucky to experience all these live. Anyway, his cousin was recalling that incident where dumars, rodman, and thomas were each giving mj one blow when mj was driving to the basket. Normally, guys would back off and stop driving. But the very next possession mj would still drive hard to the basket. I'm not a mj fan but there's a lot of determination rite there. I dun mean players nowadays lack determination but they are playing under a more friendly and safer environment. So yes it's extremely hard to score 80 pts in a game but it's individual stats after all. At the end of the day, the ring counts. Yes, kobe has 3 already but we'll see if he can do it on his own.


dumars' cousin also told my friend quite a bit of the inside stories in the nba. I would love to share but i dun wanna derail the topic haha. But mostly they were about the pistons.