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Originally posted by bigfish at 2005-02-01 14:06:
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4 P  e% m0 P! y7 m中國竟然細個美國??!!" e0 F$ n# |! k$ q! ^
according to "Atlas" by Ling Kee, China is 9,596,961, USA is 9,372,614, w# X/ Y! f: O9 c
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no need to argue, here is your answer5 h( ~# _( j: N9 s" Y# c
2003
4 j: U+ y) V- U1 C# H% b5 j#1 Russia:& x  L8 d& r2 Z5 }8 q
total: 17,075,200 sq km
/ A4 i+ N9 O/ jwater: 79,400 sq km
& V0 ~) \" y5 t* F+ Gland: 16,995,800 sq km ( w* r& ^' w6 j% g2 W8 h: I
Area - comparative: $ n" i3 k1 U2 a2 j) O$ V
approximately 1.8 times the size of the US * `6 g/ T" v& a% u, k1 L; {

+ Q4 {" r8 E' o( R5 j4 _Population: % }2 g  d2 N: P0 X6 y8 V
144,526,278 (July 2003 est.) 8 t! ^4 F; Y" V0 B; b) u4 x: V
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#2 Canada:
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land: 9,093,507 sq km 4 j/ z# h& Y' W* y$ g" V& C4 ?& N
water: 891,163 sq km
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somewhat larger than the US , b/ N1 r7 i9 V8 w
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Population: 7 k- M. @, d8 K; m, R6 M5 V
32,207,113 (July 2003 est.) ! L1 ~) C. W& M+ u

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0 R4 \" x4 \% q3 T2 ktotal: 9,629,091 sq km   \+ D9 q7 q  D! Y* ?$ N0 A
land: 9,158,960 sq km - w+ N- W2 W: a1 x
water: 470,131 sq km
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3 g0 c8 z7 P) u3 YArea - comparative:
6 v3 I7 g3 p) |. Iabout half the size of Russia; about three-tenths the size of Africa; about ) H. `7 z/ j) e- m* e
half the size of South America (or slightly larger than Brazil); slightly   J. U- u, g5 [, i
larger than China; about two and a half times the size of Western Europe
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. [9 N6 }8 v: {# \7 f0 p/ _. TPopulation: $ U2 r8 l" P+ z. D/ _
290,342,554 (July 2003 est.) + [% V* ~2 G3 S% u: @7 m
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total: 9,596,960 sq km ' Q" M4 ~0 J) z4 y* u
land: 9,326,410 sq km
# z6 d0 u! E3 l' m- U7 ~# q$ a4 Bwater: 270,550 sq km 6 w# T1 x* E* D, z# X6 {4 r
Area - comparative:
' S) d! N4 t- c- T9 w; H1 p/ cslightly smaller than the US
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8 x, H! ~* |) Z$ {( s1 p. d. MPopulation:
2 C( l2 v6 j, t* |1,286,975,468 (July 2003 est.)
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The info above is copied from: 0 l. k" U. Z% g7 T- E
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html
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This should settle it once and for all
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ALL INFO SOURCED FROM THE CIA WORLD FACTBOOK OF THE US GOVERNMENT
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LARGEST COUNTRIES BY LAND AREA ONLY (NO WATER!)
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1) RUSSIAN FEDERATION
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2) PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
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3) UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
  W2 `' n3 ]4 L- H% m9,161,923 sq km& J) `( Z+ @8 F1 T

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land: 9,093,507 sq km
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Largest Countries by TOTAL AREA (WATER+LAND)% k# @7 \! O9 Y2 P; I6 e0 _- }

2 w9 ?( Q) i2 ~, [9 u2 [: V1) RUSSIAN FEDERATION
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total: 17,075,200 sq km+ Z, T& Z& t3 C4 a3 m( o. n- H
land: 16,995,800 sq km4 U, K" _9 z8 B$ T6 C3 M
water: 79,400 sq km8 A! [( |) y& r( g" U0 q4 ]( q( p; p; Q

" [& i! v% g$ o2) CANADA
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total: 9,984,670 sq km! [* @' c7 b: ?! w1 @
land: 9,093,507 sq km
) [5 ^7 @# v4 H+ A9 rwater: 891,163 sq km' |. m8 b* N% ^
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3) UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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total: 9,631,418 sq km
9 M" F2 J- v( s- Q; s: L0 T2 [6 L: hland: 9,161,923 sq km. t/ R4 w7 t! ^/ D
water: 469,495 sq km. Q( g  z, j0 P4 ?$ o3 Z4 o4 f
note: includes only the 50 states and District of Columbia
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4) PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
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$ X. n7 d; d6 r: v0 ]/ Stotal: 9,596,960 sq km
$ C7 Y& N" ~2 p- V; Kland: 9,326,410 sq km! d" y& {4 o1 d' r& ^" x- n, o
water: 270,550 sq km
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5 x5 U: N( b! g9 J! a. o' y1 I% \! KLARGEST COUNTRIES BY POPULATION:
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1)CHINA 1,298,847,624 (July 2004 est.)7 z( Y: h6 V! _$ v: Z7 p
2)INDIA 1,065,070,607 (July 2004 est.): {8 p$ o) y- {7 l
3)USA 293,027,571 (July 2004 est.); Y8 s% [: r7 o9 r/ D. f2 M( T
4)INDONESIA 238,452,952 (July 2004 est.)
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RUSSIA 143,782,338 (July 2004 est.)+ q- O, O0 E2 Q# s, v
CANADA 32,507,874 (July 2004 est.)
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/ u- E8 l. m" t7 `$ U2005 is not calculated yet, and countries do get smaller now, because the amount of water is increasing, shrinking the land...( H9 f& \( G5 Q  j: b
sorry if I spell anything wrong... : E2 k9 A4 z9 x9 I: L: \
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7 q/ y- H! R8 j1 Q) {+ LSo you can see the idea that Canada is bigger than China and the US is based solely on the fact that it claims sovereignty over more WATER than land! The USA Is only bigger than China if you include Territorial Seas. (having more coastline means more territorial seas can be claimed)& S. U2 Z4 V. y9 L6 X# U/ T2 [
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2005 is not calculated yet...   sorry
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adding to the point, china is getting smaller and smaller each year, because of the
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Originally posted by johnwu at 2005-02-01 20:01:
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Good analysis Ten!0 _3 q( }. W2 U
The area do...
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9 l% G* j6 `8 `3 p  Y' E+ n" Nthx, just trying to help,  
" e' Q' b* k' e3 M% Ntalking about tax, yes, my family is also having trouble with tax too, if this continues, i am not even sure if i am able to finish my years in university
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" K7 @9 l5 F9 v8 j% |2 y[ Last edited by tenmadio on 2005-7-7 at 08:16 PM ]
Originally posted by Gretzky at 2005-02-01 22:56:
& N4 l( p0 X  _Thanks Ten for the info....save my 勞氣 man.....$ F  N# e4 ^5 m& ?

  Y# @& q  K5 c0 k& }, ], H; RJohn, I am paying 32% of what i make to the stupid Paul Martin Liberals....gonna go bankrupt soon.
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your welcome, just trying to help  
Originally posted by robertchok at 2005-02-01 01:44:
* k2 T- K$ Q- t0 C美國應該大過canada架喎@_@
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2) CANADA---thounsand island.....---___--'"7 F( y) h6 o- G9 q

; I7 l, J1 c, I4 W! k; y! }total: 9,984,670 sq km
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water: 891,163 sq km
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3) UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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total: 9,631,418 sq km
  m0 s, I) ^2 e* h/ rland: 9,161,923 sq km
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美國應 land 大過 canada,but ..... thounsand island...
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Originally posted by bigfish at 2005-02-01 02:15:
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( ?; B) L  k  M7 x9 y" Scoz 我真係冇計到領海) q, l, L& U' |& }) d
btw, 中國同日本都有領海爭議, 個 cia site 有冇講到佢點計中日o既領海呀?
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miles seaward or was it 12nautical miles offcoast4 J+ S1 \% a: A. ]3 G% p
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中國領海12 nautical miles offcoast i think...
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1997 年中國簽署了與日本的一個協議為合作漁場管理在東中國海; 2000 年它起了作用。1998 年 中國簽署了與sino-南部韓國的一個協議為合作漁場管理在黃海; 2001 年起了作用。) S% k6 z: N  x+ D1 M0 y
中國簽署了與越南的二個協議在漁場管理和界限描述在 Beibu 或Tonkin 海灣;2004 年起作用的。
, G5 c) }& Y. g- r$ D, dsino日本和Sino-南部韓國簽署了的協議是期限5 年;
2 t- m6 D( I) m: \) C% n0 Isino-越南協議期限15 年9 N# C1 N9 J% I+ [. `% H$ O
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anyway, thank for your support, thanks everyone
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miles seaward
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