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司馬懿

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:6 n. |8 K+ `& b1 l

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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why?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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! ?: C2 E- A: D+ y' m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:
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. A3 ]' a) {) {4 |- ]8 |2 E! c) Z4 @! Gbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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$ I: }6 g. \% X& }2 c政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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6 h$ s( V0 [8 q# cThus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:1 X6 s  f0 ~- m4 s
Just I think
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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3 e/ ^9 r1 U6 l2 C( \9 i7 @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮: R; W1 f' i) y3 |

+ r, D4 g8 J, K( v( b# yThus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 X( f" X" Q& g) OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# o0 a  s1 }, q4 K7 D. P
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& [% d6 n9 U: {2 @  @
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' L! J+ Z" _& i; Q4 Z
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- Y7 q$ x) d7 `" U

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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4 d# o3 ]7 x6 c, ^- A" CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ ]. R6 w6 O" p1 w, k& W: h
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.