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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:1 T, l" _' E9 N
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:3 j: [' K% |! }. Y
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why?

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智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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* i$ a" B" ]# ^0 Z" _4 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:3 I( s0 l$ _3 [' n4 o

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 r/ J/ m6 l9 f/ F5 A% u/ l0 B* g政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維  Z2 m1 E+ y" F' N/ k  L4 G+ R) O* M

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:; f- l, D2 g7 X
Just I think
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( [: Y$ \9 R# W9 u諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=152 \- p4 e2 d5 K
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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  O$ n* k! {1 l5 U. v9 D政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ A- l! i3 X: W- ]1 F1 y8 A0 D

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$ Z; s4 l- o! t9 H; D$ S6 q) mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ D. |( f- C* O7 y, U) A

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 N# c2 b( j( c) V0 p' d0 X# i  F

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3 t0 c/ X" s3 ~: ^( h+ W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  t8 P8 U+ v; P6 K8 t2 q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) a' F$ s( V9 I' u; e

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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1 u+ A9 U( B1 V3 I3 MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

6 l: C. Q8 M% \# s1 T, x8 S7 r) Dyes, that's the point.