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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:24:
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! {- y7 r2 J0 D! @% o唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:32:+ @7 r0 D- W$ k* [0 G
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5 f4 J( U5 ^' w4 y, F$ obut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司...

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Agree.  But now is 諸葛亮死後最厲害既人物.  Thus all ability of the person should be consider.
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維& {* Q8 y0 f7 `$ B, O, B

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Thus 姜維 is the best. If 司馬懿 is excluded.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:39:
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司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9- {. F# G5 V9 x8 v! E9 q* S/ @5 Q
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
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; ?0 _! N9 f" x/ v' K4 ~, }Thus 姜維 is the best.  You said no 司馬懿.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 ^. Z4 c8 s. _% W" hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ L. K5 A& M4 c1 L0 {$ H

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: ~' |# J% Z( u1 `; ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) Z5 g* `7 v, r  ^1 K" `  ^: B4 N0 {
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' ?7 j0 K5 Z7 t+ S/ I4 Y0 H4 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 N  W4 E" ?# [0 w; T0 y8 X% C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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