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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:$ ~. q% A* ]5 V5 g6 q. N$ }1 N# C. F
姜維真係咁勁?
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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:+ f) t+ R6 N' L+ ]% o
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9 d' K* z0 R( q$ Tyes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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但孔明剛死時他才１３歲，怎能跟其他人比？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:& Q% ?3 b) b1 q( D/ o
司馬懿

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! w* }6 P0 Z0 z唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:( E9 k  w1 f+ ?8 q8 @6 c
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姜維

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why?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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3 d8 u' E8 X3 ^0 o- ]8 Z% u* Y智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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+ G3 R1 x" p  j智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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+ o. T% E2 Q% r! E( Kbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' x* Z$ r+ y# X# a9 f/ `/ h
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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Just I think: q; r" O. C* a6 `- A) I8 X
第一五分，第五一分
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4 a- e$ N2 f& d! c' X諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=15+ M* B$ i) [$ ^) i1 p7 r* a( w
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9& X; f& N% c. H% r4 s' D
陸遜：3+3+2+2=10

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  J( Y  X  ]2 i  D9 o* v7 m, [/ t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  e, g! j: J! v6 P* J$ @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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- O* Q% H, R# W& @4 R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 }' e0 B8 [( R! u; sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機