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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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實力差不多

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:  [! N$ y/ Z7 y/ ~( j
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:7 C6 C8 t/ W; X) Z$ m7 b8 g- x1 a, Z
司馬懿

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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:
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智慧高之餘﹐又打得. @5 D4 l, G* B3 b3 n. O# J

. ^! v) \; K% j, I# l' E9 W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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but i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" \  A" Q4 R4 n軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維' h( i; m% D; Y0 K6 c7 q& z+ o
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維% Y* J. B/ p+ L" \; O

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Just I think
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& @; {# X# b2 g9 W, H4 t" F

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 E2 |5 K" |. L
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; W/ g9 m3 i, R9 b0 X8 CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" R5 e% _2 p& sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機