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Originally posted by nashisthebestpg at 2006-1-30 13:22:
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# c- Y9 Z6 F4 v佢輸俾鄧艾鍾會幾次ga bo...........

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Originally posted by hung414 at 2006-1-30 21:08:
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yes...he was the great one to unified Chinese

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:22:
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唔計司馬懿呢？

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:25:& q9 b" V2 |. R- s7 g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:28:$ @; W2 ]) j( s

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4 \( [# \8 A2 A% e; l+ ^智慧高之餘﹐又打得
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->姜維

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: d* d, R& m. q, nbut i think智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  s' U8 z# A" l) z& J( x

% d$ H9 R" ?4 Y) N軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->鄧艾--->姜維) R2 k7 h& L7 B$ O. V: D
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政治才能：司馬懿--->諸葛亮-->鄧艾--->陸遜--->姜維5 G1 \. r! B2 a# a  }' q' n
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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第一五分，第五一分
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諸葛亮：5+5+4+1=151 E: Y6 A+ ~2 T' e$ v, s
司馬懿：4+4+5+3=16
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姜維：2+1+1+5=9
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 B( O7 D4 ?& `2 w, ^
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/ V% u8 {" R! `6 r5 O  n2 W6 kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 {( r9 ?" Z9 `2 }  K* o
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- W) a4 C1 Y0 t  u+ j, ?

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+ Y' T; _! ~$ l5 Q' X: sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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