jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 L# i  C+ r. P/ T* ?' Ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, l9 c6 n4 s" J8 L( t  G4 Z/ n
why this happen? just simple........punishment, u) K* U5 _" N8 i& I0 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ k& O( E( _/ W: m! {but why jesus need to do this?
+ v, i# B% U% E& ]3 M3 wpunsihment for what???
$ G9 s6 c( P& s5 T) u8 Z# Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; r: |5 `4 W  Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 K5 K( v1 e  W/ N0 e# l; i: X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 y& j% J4 t" M- O6 z+ a  w
what will u do???- ~5 Z3 X& F* X& f: x( J+ c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; ]% w" S# G% H' Z3 C7 M
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9 K5 P  d  M, H4 ~% y! @( x4 C咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 n9 U, M0 v$ n/ Y
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ Z3 y( Y5 N0 p4 x. x* k1 q
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% n' g, f2 F4 n3 z% c' {) rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. t! Z( h/ y* W0 ^" o% s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" d+ S3 J: h; F/ Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
3 N% `: k$ b4 y9 C8 J$ T6 l6 Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; r1 ^+ v, M- A- b; \but why jesus need to do this?
8 B. {! A, p$ N1 p1 Q+ ~& ]! u, jpunsihment for what???+ K9 P1 ~9 L; r- q5 T% N; R  |
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- K* U$ o. G0 ]$ F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) }- t9 b: d( v7 x, n. N6 M& S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 d" h' B5 M, h$ W6 i  V- T6 r
what will u do???6 p' Z- B8 X4 Y+ a! C
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, n# }5 s( U. \, d+ {

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 y$ j  \& @! l: I6 M7 Mhonestly, if there is jesus6 @. R/ N& l, f5 x  D' N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) }4 D2 P/ t0 G$ `2 r6 Zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 q" f8 f% H1 y) s" ~* M4 l' E) F% b: s
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 V* {1 X8 o5 a! C% A" m
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" P. h$ b4 m" l
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 o  L8 _1 L8 j5 h7 w: N" {
bro singgeihot and rest365days
& _* \+ c/ t% M& U7 K2 G% _honestly, if there is jesus6 e2 ]% |* b3 g. e& s$ E
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: x! }6 M& u* I. H2 F4 t* d) C0 Xwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) l/ E. R$ V& ^, O0 C
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" _4 b4 `  C; ^) e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: