jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 ?- n% P0 ]. `
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( a# s1 q; r  X0 J3 a
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& f# l' \. S' t# V4 o3 Hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: h& u2 @# C' D3 c8 z) Gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( S/ `1 Q3 p6 q* U; F$ q9 t' ?, x' Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment9 W$ W( R8 ^6 o2 m- A  Q, f* Y! C; t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# t0 P5 W# |( H5 v- a! b, Kbut why jesus need to do this?
- \7 s7 ]+ v1 _$ H, d. |! C. spunsihment for what???
( H5 V5 h& z  [4 A$ s- Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* z) A3 m. l+ Z5 Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ [% z- c* ?6 x' @; C: t, O/ tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! i0 o+ C" P5 f* A
what will u do???* J9 X1 W' K0 w; h9 H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 N  K' }) d: l. M# V
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5 |+ T% {" V4 {yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  K# }0 z1 h& [: ~8 d& `
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 s- B8 o7 n8 p: G- k+ p8 T: L8 C) w

8 n; E$ c7 O! v. q& |咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 \/ s" F4 Q  i; L1 A. Z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- x( y+ s  O- q; Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( B7 b0 S* x# {# g
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, m4 f! h" c* R) G) J, Y0 [many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " h1 h/ Y& _; {6 G
but why jesus need to do this?# a7 j5 P2 l4 D: C- [; g
punsihment for what???" j$ [( w. B6 X, p5 P  v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% j* G' ^9 C1 c8 s6 w- Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 P, W8 C7 Y: @: d4 Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 i) S" b0 U- I) F! Pwhat will u do???( }2 ^5 ?4 h9 Y: |/ g4 P' K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / s  k3 n6 i: N1 R+ ]

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  Y7 Y2 Z& \2 l* R) j# ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 D: O3 w0 T+ a

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1 E% x& v3 I& z% m% y* Hbro, did u know that there is a...

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% U  d9 N% A4 [8 X, B5 [* S/ ~2 V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 }2 g5 B5 T  H, fhonestly, if there is jesus
# v; a9 [9 `- u8 l9 Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' ~, o' t7 f6 a; N) M
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) ~* F/ O! V! q

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! B# \1 {! t5 R3 |! w4 |2 a' u好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 n8 M; A1 O& `! M5 d4 Jyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 u; y7 o, w1 H4 ]; C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
% W; c9 j% {6 z8 F# Y1 N/ dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# `7 ]' W9 q+ P! h2 X& l  C
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  }$ [2 h+ p5 @bro singgeihot and rest365days' I4 D8 e( Z- U4 ?
honestly, if there is jesus6 U: m+ E, R+ |, }, n/ F) `4 a
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* _8 E" X, w' D1 r% G/ a4 ^' [$ d& Rwe can't blow him :cool:

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$ e/ c, A, ]( c7 Z% W1 D% Aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
4 b2 X3 t: V$ q$ hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 i6 O7 P" ?8 i! O自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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  X# `4 |0 q* f' T6 E3 ?haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: