jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
( Y# i- Z& z1 ]仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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0 T2 O, H7 A' ]" p1 k" S$ x# |* o" lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 n" q& h% Z9 M& @9 A" zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; U8 _1 H5 d4 g! L( s* C( rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment$ \: S% X5 x; O2 y" A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# Z0 M4 d& }: U; d2 n8 U" ?5 q) ?but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ C  S$ q2 q: P* X6 _1 Z4 @: j" @4 H7 r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: ?' s2 G6 T' o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" J( ]$ Q+ ^2 f# G, E( Y1 U9 G

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# O0 D, ~- L+ [
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' [& T4 b7 v' g+ ^0 w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& i4 `# e- t! _" t; x
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 ]( l9 z4 |' g6 X3 W$ C/ x& M/ f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ g( a& ~( [) S9 W
but why jesus need to do this?
8 I6 |" F6 p/ ipunsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???: }. _+ c; V! V' j; e/ n; b  W
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 p  v: B/ K5 K" t. {* h, z
honestly, if there is jesus8 L. z8 P8 m+ \; N" w7 z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, |5 v! Z/ t! N: b( Zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 y2 s3 v  m8 D! R" R

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 T2 y- X+ l" k% yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ z% z3 u% H; n  Oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......3 S$ S, w2 M( }0 @, d& H7 e
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
. d% R- o% a, }bro singgeihot and rest365days+ `6 n: p) @9 F6 l& I# f$ ?. N
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. K6 p- D; k0 O" {
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 L9 b. ~- `; Q2 X2 s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. k: ?1 e# L2 c. p: {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: