jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- v& \3 B6 i' b4 R- N6 l: j6 U# lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" {" H6 F6 I8 }# T# |9 iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! Q+ K( M2 E# D3 b5 Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 k4 n1 _% F' f9 S
but why jesus need to do this?- S3 k/ f6 U5 l% z9 [3 F; v9 S; M
punsihment for what???6 \/ n1 U/ x4 M1 i" {* D
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ i. S* S9 M. A5 t& ^+ W6 s4 r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 E# `" X' f- L4 ^yes, what did u think is what i...

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; V7 b) K0 N+ R9 w4 j% C$ T) n咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) L/ Q' l$ y0 M7 p6 ^4 C2 j

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 K# ~6 F& W. J4 o/ R) |4 ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ B' c. m& N1 u1 W+ q  ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) m, r- P* [5 {why this happen? just simple........punishment: r4 M$ v' X9 [  O2 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# S& O- u0 |8 T8 G& E/ M/ Nbut why jesus need to do this?! S2 }# v9 |# _
punsihment for what???. l9 c9 C( y! z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# M8 c) C, S1 Q  s' ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) Q; y' z8 E3 }: t, U4 \, Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & @/ j+ v6 r, x2 J; l* k2 m
what will u do???+ X% Z; l! i1 a6 c) u$ @1 P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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  `, y& L  ~+ |6 h8 ]5 q9 ?sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) P8 v* b5 A. ~# T. z4 ], [5 G8 ^1 U
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! B: n3 J6 i* j; c& C  W$ y1 c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 l5 j) W' d) k
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* O7 }+ o5 r3 ]
honestly, if there is jesus9 R5 v+ Q: Z5 V& L
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ {& ?4 N* B3 c% l6 c* t6 @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: C( b* I3 L" m
bro singgeihot and rest365days
  S: [4 R) S  D+ Whonestly, if there is jesus6 o5 @! x. \% Q7 @# H
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ E- M9 R" F, v7 n. ~9 L
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
: @, @# Z4 ~- V9 Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. [/ |, w5 m4 R
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: z7 g& T5 b5 ]( h0 b& Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: