jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 Y2 o- W/ G9 h+ c5 N7 [
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% d3 z, E1 K7 a! _' o6 M) X
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4 M& w/ d! g% S$ L  x; N! }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 r0 t, W* G! ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 I% o( ^1 @& Y% t2 t* V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* B' U, J9 ~2 v( f3 Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 i6 K% U, l1 \0 x# u' b/ e( Ybut why jesus need to do this?
" J) k+ h1 I+ P5 S& Xpunsihment for what???
4 Z' r4 {; Y/ R' Ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! f# ]  a1 `" K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  ?2 d' B& m3 d5 g3 J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 p3 o% s5 f6 A, V$ F/ P; F. {# S9 D
what will u do???
1 R+ ~1 h+ V4 cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# x! ^9 B( B/ q4 ~' i# i咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ K/ u7 C4 n, C% s& r2 K; J
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* H4 t+ F4 x+ L# A' `6 I7 B: V% m

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 }( U, X$ E/ U/ k3 O9 wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  R2 P" t( n3 t. z: m  C: L' scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) ~' ^! @& Y& {
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 v8 ^) C) H* t! ?( j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 s$ S7 ]6 D( x# x1 Q* Ubut why jesus need to do this?0 S4 D0 J& r+ L% m9 {1 c
punsihment for what???% c8 q) ]- E, ~* J& ?/ E2 H* i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; c: C+ ]6 |; u& Y: @6 g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% l! o5 |8 d( I) Vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 L; V3 u4 ^/ h
what will u do???
# p& y  v% W. w0 jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) K5 z) q% t4 J& }/ {

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; \: o0 g' Z9 n4 L4 B8 G+ B# E+ A

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & m, A$ t6 W+ f" f& X/ Z

0 P2 q7 p4 Q& H+ n0 e" ]* z議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 s9 V* \  M* z3 {; v* |' D
honestly, if there is jesus
5 Q# \) C' K; P! \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 |+ B0 ]  `+ H' o6 e. {4 D! s; S3 z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 U' x# q* V' _/ ]$ d: Z+ b
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ Z% f, u2 J. D1 j. dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... {4 S! j/ Z& Z$ C& n( e" U1 q5 U
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- {' r( a5 L: Z) u3 w+ h. ]
bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 e- j& K8 P+ v& W* ]6 `2 qhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; h% l( J7 ?: e  D$ W
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 R" r. u9 x" I7 W
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; N% N' M' K6 o3 c& ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: