jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; z+ j7 X/ x2 l/ a0 Pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 R( _1 Y5 O$ }  E( P7 R1 X8 y, Y# F
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 G, \; j5 S. `% y$ B) nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' B2 L' _# I: J0 y- o
but why jesus need to do this?1 s" E, G  o/ h- k. d9 g
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# t# d/ j+ X2 R# B! S3 a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   B4 T! ?8 ]: `; ^( ?
what will u do???% o) P* j0 b( o/ j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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% g5 P# L, H8 u1 L* n但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ H1 s% c$ \1 b8 j. s" k

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ H3 o$ s3 {* s5 M. a/ {/ D7 hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, @+ y  y" e- o. w" j8 @( U7 scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 s& l0 e' h2 v0 Mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ ^* u, K- h. \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 ^1 ~! C, ?* u7 P' e! J% ]
but why jesus need to do this?
' P' t5 O. Q- `8 }: H4 n" dpunsihment for what???
- L7 i5 j  ]5 H2 L/ A/ [$ _# ?' ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- M9 k" _2 r& f) t( I$ s$ ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: |% q2 [2 z! U1 R' S, ?# D# G, Y  h0 W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ P" @2 F# d( Z2 S
what will u do???2 c% M. v+ v. l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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: M& z) y9 B8 P; i, N/ B! A7 I( }bro, did u know that there is a...

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& |5 Z2 h/ S2 F  I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' k, q& K8 ?4 F; t5 m, {honestly, if there is jesus
9 j9 W+ m/ Q- f3 phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 i' w% G; a* ]' V' i! y3 \, Uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. d# H# B8 A" k) x; A
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. e  b% D5 F$ j& Y) O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: _* b) N" ^& ?- C" A; O3 c1 u
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* u2 j( V" f* N& Onow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& ^6 t+ c1 U# m, |. I7 P$ i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
: u$ C9 k5 R" @1 _2 Hhonestly, if there is jesus
. N: d$ j6 i, ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 R3 w6 i7 g- V: ~we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; h) I$ W8 x/ s4 O
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: