jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
6 l% F% H+ V; O9 _2 i! r; d% F仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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+ k& c1 R) c5 {) tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& U) w1 y0 B" w6 N7 h9 G: V4 @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; h/ w2 Y- W9 P! P( Q- S) _
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 w, D8 b4 K' G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 D1 ^4 {7 G& H. L4 j# V
but why jesus need to do this?0 }6 w, o0 m7 M
punsihment for what???4 C) V8 H4 {& R4 [% G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( c3 n6 Y0 ~" b8 L  Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 N2 E  v' ]- h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % l) W7 L8 v% i: a3 o
what will u do???
2 l; G8 N3 I* `* Y1 \just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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8 H9 T3 z4 M- A9 }: W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 t- q) D# [# ~# W# M3 _3 G2 C

8 ]5 Q1 B9 C8 H, E. a# N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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% d- b& t# z% v  T咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 X- z  `. Z" M+ {) s% N
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( ?/ Z, J0 F/ I! ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; l5 |6 m2 W1 x6 L( A0 S3 U# o. ^( pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment# Y, w! H9 X  q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 N- H) P# L% A; l5 Q; {' wbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 P  A/ ]/ {, [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# q2 |! f- S9 T3 ], z7 k, }1 rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 z4 c/ p7 g, m) K; A) w5 b+ I* S
what will u do???
: c% L# \; i+ t# E/ P. v$ J' U+ kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # ?! d! Z, [% j- V4 ]! {' H

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 y7 ~, P- X2 C8 |; C, R  x) G

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' E# i( t4 S( \2 N0 C- u8 Y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 d, B) ~2 C7 U2 P0 Z( y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" W  i5 P6 |4 C$ p; b
honestly, if there is jesus
" k' |1 ?- ?  qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" `3 D! ^! t& Z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 O+ s6 @, d& x

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 U! ]& H; }: e! O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 c7 m. B4 J( t& g  q& {' K# gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( B, a3 O+ S6 H+ o; i& J( L
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: D* y* d" y6 g; v7 @bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 O8 {( H6 Z7 n8 }# h2 l( C; ehonestly, if there is jesus( J" q" K5 S; X& N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ z) A! J9 J; Wwe can't blow him :cool:

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2 o9 j, H8 {& Q+ a, Uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
4 ~9 n. b- c+ P& hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
! A+ }, Z1 k( K- y& Y0 K自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: