jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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! W2 ]; c. J( |3 k- A! _. Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% n( u# D; u& R& g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 b6 K+ o5 b2 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment1 M6 {3 Q3 z" T( |1 O: t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???  P5 ^# s! ]7 R2 ^8 k9 X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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* o! R8 ?. S2 T! j' i咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, D) I. O' t! ]: U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 y% L2 {: z1 j3 w
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# T. y: s/ q* |" O& i' p' u  ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ ?7 r0 ?, ?$ ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ q$ k) g+ [8 h; G. w9 `' Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 J2 w& [, I) w) pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 U2 c$ V( b/ C6 X  M0 |but why jesus need to do this?
! X7 A, {4 y2 N! S' q3 gpunsihment for what???
6 `: j$ E2 z2 ?' q* Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* w  ^! ~: I$ w7 ?6 Z8 Wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( @( _- Z" D- P, i. g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
( N( }+ D$ G+ N" l/ Qwhat will u do???' n4 @4 F# T" j+ u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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+ A7 m7 M- n  z& _sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: d6 Y, |! W1 g( g, y! G. h. ?

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  R( L  r7 }* M+ T6 n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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4 }; C: n5 R8 f& v* B4 x議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- _* D: E. l) N2 x5 x
honestly, if there is jesus
5 F4 l( T) |0 G4 w: i) x1 Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 z9 g7 K6 J- q% q/ Z" dwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; R) ~5 }/ n! d
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% l2 ]* G" ?7 o( Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ r+ y4 n7 Y/ }, S7 n: J8 t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 |, G8 b! O. L- Xbro singgeihot and rest365days
: J% r% p/ w9 ?9 Chonestly, if there is jesus# o% y* _, W+ w2 ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& l; `' G' ^0 i" s  X+ }
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 ?. b2 k' m) kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% d6 O! j" G" d6 x, k5 t( G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' i* q6 b. A5 m1 t! ]自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: