jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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: O: e: B, b" i( V& I5 t+ w# nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 ^- {; H4 H; n+ @) c7 [6 ]; Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' w' O6 m$ p) R6 P8 V
why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 i( h( g) W3 ^4 l: f+ D# M9 R9 q2 smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . k! t+ K% b5 N( ~2 t: T0 p
but why jesus need to do this?5 u2 o4 z) h9 ?% L& y
punsihment for what???: F' m; A. F' b' w1 f, K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! G' _" a/ q0 {$ M$ }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 R  }; E& L( N- W1 `* @
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 n5 ^# l, w' e. K) S5 c, {( F2 T但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* |! _+ X, J0 h$ |
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ o; j. a& {% w7 V1 f. r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 x0 Y3 g8 I) H! L. f' L# mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment% U6 v( w7 s, s0 g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( u1 I, T: Q/ R) ~
but why jesus need to do this?
5 E, |& @' p( r  o6 C) G3 Fpunsihment for what???
8 e& H7 B6 r" u6 O, Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; }! M5 [+ X# T$ n. Z6 m0 Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 e9 R3 h8 E0 ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 d7 Z/ y7 L1 p- F- Mwhat will u do???
0 \/ i/ J1 i7 Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, & ~2 {# G, c' F/ ^) |

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% p' M5 X6 L  a

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 q) p' d1 i7 n" J議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: R* m' b# a/ p' m5 s9 \honestly, if there is jesus
+ i9 q* |$ x4 I% Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& X* z, i. m, S8 Q1 J8 l# m  F
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ G$ v; o$ O0 q$ ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 E" E* u  E9 Y4 y) |so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  g* A' X" L/ q; y( Z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: S& D. E/ |9 q& O1 hbro singgeihot and rest365days/ Z; I( Y! k: s$ G/ M
honestly, if there is jesus" `, A3 p1 W0 ^" ~& @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 I& _, _7 R* P2 k$ ]  D( W7 ^% F* f
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 p+ {5 D: l0 L3 D2 O. S) V自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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9 v0 Z$ j4 I' t- V* mhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: