jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:+ A5 A( |& H* e& s
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, p0 `  ^4 x+ y5 s& o3 nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- p8 m- {5 u* L9 U3 L; dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ s; C! h1 i. v7 z3 Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, N. n0 z9 ?, ~; E( ?1 Y! I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 O# m5 X6 @: q1 H8 N8 x5 O
but why jesus need to do this?
+ R5 ]) O$ z6 L' Apunsihment for what???
" N$ i' y/ L6 B6 \+ yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( i. E3 N) g5 ^8 P0 T$ C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 u( T% S2 |+ t% i6 y# v0 K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / d" J+ V0 q: D1 f- H
what will u do???
1 j2 i# O9 O2 i2 mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. @1 |* V, Z% m! Q& c
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- Q! }" C8 @& ]% z1 b9 u

- {- H% S- \+ i8 v$ p: d% ?6 R- l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  M2 H* i0 a; @8 R" |
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% z& a+ X, O4 r* [7 b; ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ _5 G! T% s( D6 a0 z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: |: c, B& i" T2 l" c! O- D
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 v5 i( Y, B9 w( V3 _& s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % m4 Q* d* Q/ D6 l9 w  j
but why jesus need to do this?( _( g) B+ N1 J8 g; \, L# y
punsihment for what???
& `, Q( w& h- G% n8 z, A1 Qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  e& `: X/ T5 `( n' G! wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& a; i+ a1 o/ l8 vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 z% V1 Y% C, U+ R4 }* ^- f' I9 Z. O" F
what will u do???
/ y0 ~+ m6 s' m4 pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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0 ~; t6 Z% C% i+ M9 q% qsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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) S1 o) L& J) ?7 L7 p$ {3 qbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # m* n) J- O9 m; [+ X! P; b
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ {$ D% [$ O% _, T! thonestly, if there is jesus
1 r6 M" R+ {# a3 U0 r" bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' e3 I/ I; H8 W' T: Q5 p+ Swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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  W( F2 V; F$ U- I! T好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 K+ c- T# Y  p# y3 U1 W
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) _  W, ~9 N) Q! O$ G2 m# h' G8 z
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ u7 Q& R( E  o! u9 `. mhonestly, if there is jesus
1 U! G0 K9 J) k3 }, c/ X" O8 M1 vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; ]: ^' O5 b. P, w
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: V& s" C3 q( Z% E, u自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% Y3 I- r" B3 e1 Hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: