jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 M4 E7 E5 R2 f5 ~" N. x仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" n: p0 _5 B3 D! V
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! L( q* {8 B5 _8 [0 o: T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" q* V1 x6 d: X
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 @! H7 i, Y8 G6 w6 E! o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " H6 G6 t, |; C2 ^
but why jesus need to do this?5 R9 m. Q9 H+ I, B- `5 I
punsihment for what???
1 A$ H% w/ D( c/ ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ v' \- W5 h- j% z: J5 e8 k
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: [: ?- }2 v+ L& B6 S6 wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 |) B9 |8 U2 v, d" J) q
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 ?$ `+ V7 \+ D! P4 A$ g) }: U, j咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ S2 v% b! _* p( T. q

  G$ H3 q( i6 J7 G8 S, @. R2 i但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 f8 _7 c) Y$ j1 r
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- m( j9 y* w  C
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. v1 d6 X, b1 {* x% D7 Z, B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: ^! |0 z6 L* p$ J- ?
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 w. `. w* V+ g7 {1 U2 b2 g: M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , i% o0 \/ z3 G3 Y
but why jesus need to do this?7 h/ Z2 [$ O- j, a. ^
punsihment for what???% ]; T- o; `. W8 W* W6 G6 x. E, |  v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ p" h' G1 z( E' l" Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# O. a0 ]0 w# [- ~, ~0 K/ S% O9 N1 M4 Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" F4 W, l& E) z4 o4 L9 i# c& X* ]what will u do???
! D! u5 Y: [+ m7 y: |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 ~7 |- r, W; i) k: ~, f

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% `% m7 g% O) M. r

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 u3 p2 O3 J! S. j8 p議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
( q7 l3 c/ ^6 @+ _honestly, if there is jesus
, _4 p  E$ Q. S: F- i5 Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) p# G$ X: Z9 X: D; Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 m$ \" L5 U7 @* v7 ^/ C1 b
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& B( |) ^: B! O* t4 X9 P0 r' v
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 I4 r! e* d9 |' k9 \now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 I# E( Z( o0 s$ D. t: ^
bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 H+ `! G; B: ?9 Z- h$ p& B  Shonestly, if there is jesus& ]0 f$ F5 L" B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 _2 }; ~* f# u5 @* U
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ P" f- S( G* Ootherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
& ?# C4 t4 L3 {; _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ {9 t: r0 ^! K4 S$ k. q# [+ M  _haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: