jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 k5 M" ]7 M  Y4 Y/ M+ ^& o1 g/ pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. n3 N5 x& z/ L7 fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
8 J9 S# \, m- u3 w( T0 q, Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  g3 B; |. r% \- y& Jbut why jesus need to do this?7 L  _/ ^! v7 U6 r" z, L7 u- K
punsihment for what???/ x8 Z0 U6 d/ x" p$ L/ T* P; n
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& c6 w, S8 w0 ^; h- T- t# e6 Y, i, l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 ]4 _7 {- ?& f8 h: y8 |! ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 ?1 P3 ~3 h. s( j) G. Q7 b
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  {: ?4 N. y8 W( p但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 I. O3 J' G# @$ R0 o0 N) G
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- G" n0 W6 G( t0 y) j! @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 n1 c6 Q# g5 V7 {- nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 f) @! K& o$ h3 o; Xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 i6 u' [- Q: |( e
but why jesus need to do this?
9 y+ R* }4 b$ e4 ?4 P+ n) kpunsihment for what???
3 V7 j  Z: \  ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) g  c2 i! O" T( @' Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 ?8 R9 i* A" s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 w* \* l. G+ M% n7 r- y2 s
what will u do???
' Q7 B+ b' _$ O' I$ g6 Sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . ^$ e3 A: r& W, A7 |1 O" c

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- g. U( f# N7 K* J. Z* I& e3 \
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8 ]/ S+ G3 L) Z9 Y' }5 S( a8 kbro, did u know that there is a...

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, z  H( c4 E8 a, z# r1 e$ ]' {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 `8 R6 ?% K( h1 p" Q2 `3 A
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 x' V. `) C  _6 ^
honestly, if there is jesus
8 C0 k; p& ]  j" d+ Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 f! l3 O7 l) P( S( A8 l3 F3 i
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; ?1 ?& {4 k5 k0 Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. J# [4 G) }9 o
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 n/ s' e8 h% ]' |/ Z$ b$ O$ t
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, K) |: {2 ~( D# B+ P! Q  ^
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 N' e6 C0 K7 X3 O) |  f5 C& u
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" h8 U, f) \; a; Z; thonestly, if there is jesus
- k6 f5 T5 q# C) @; Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% v/ W( P: V% R$ G
we can't blow him :cool:

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% h- J2 F$ {+ A2 C4 f- lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 r& Q) Z4 l- e5 z( G) c7 K: [0 Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: