singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
" v5 A& E' ]" S: j/ W( ]
% W7 |5 v0 a; R5 U. q7 b
$ R0 X5 i/ I. D! p* h- Q1 p9 f, IThis is a good po ...

; j: }- d8 G# Z0 @/ t5 L/ [
- ?+ o: l% q& x; O
多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".8 {  I; k* `* q

, T0 U3 a, A& p1 e相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".' ~( s' d; W  B: ]4 Z
. e' {) W, f4 C" b6 v% ~2 O
例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
) y" |+ ~$ K# n9 v, \# O3 {3 N會考就係最好的例子./ P- g2 g% ]* [; g1 b
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:$ a* o1 \: w& I! j7 t2 o0 c) W
% e4 p8 b8 t/ I% _

- L* u4 f' v) z. T4 @yes, i get yr poi ...

* s! ~: _5 l) v

/ n  e- D; X; a% c# q  Aum...9 Y  b- o9 m8 b
psycho is hard~.~8 O; \; e  h4 T
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me# K% x, f8 D) e
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
9 Y( h: Y: S; b/ |9 a9 T
. D# W. @+ k0 p6 Vgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:* m! e( N' a! a) |+ I: }9 |

0 r( U; U% r) Y
+ l0 ~0 E: @5 F6 ]8 c# @4 d多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

5 _" C- n. ^. p, d
' E: F. a+ S8 T% s7 Q
hahhaa, 不用客氣3 c  w1 s; t% F
) m' i8 d/ q' o6 z5 c$ c
我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
. ]8 E3 A9 L; e9 L1 `6 A以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
! D) K& t* q$ U, Q+ n* K: \5 H; F# b7 S
哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:* T. i/ ^! Y. E% `1 F
. o% f" e: w2 l
8 Q$ y+ _- x! @2 Y) G
hahhaa, 不用客氣! J: K# n8 e2 p

& h/ A0 p) W5 _我 ...

$ b* R! d3 p! Y: h/ q
, k" ?# c/ T# g4 H哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.. R/ l/ e) S4 O" R/ r

- Q0 G7 K; d- N  s) s  ^; k! r- v哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
3 E2 I) N! d. w6 u
0 C/ k6 U% ^; K' t( j# K& g! y- K% |, q6 A2 ^
um...1 u0 u5 T1 r4 y9 R
psycho is h ...

& F5 Q; W# Y7 P

* E4 |2 Y* ~' i0 M9 W0 F. lhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
+ R+ H2 D2 n7 M  [) L& ]" E
* G* k" o% }# k3 h! k哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.' a; j. B& N1 H" y6 s" G% N$ g
) q% c% p. J! l, M$ |+ F3 t  Q8 Z" |5 I
哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

, N( |% R9 }  k  X+ n# k( _
- S5 B3 [( D$ S( }. U! H哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢" E/ X! y" P  {# I' W3 f( r' j

5 t$ @6 w9 d# r同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
0 n3 y$ B, Y& w7 p" C) P+ C, N
! U2 y2 x6 r  O% v- [( I你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
% h: V3 S( ?3 ^
6 k+ V3 @( w- D  o3 s6 ^[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
+ x$ m" G# C( K
6 R, S7 z$ ?! ~7 m. m9 Y/ d  T# X1 y7 W* {
haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

9 q; \+ |. @8 a; X7 G& ~# c

; h' C! E% p1 [* @% q6 L8 ]haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)( O5 g1 i3 w: _  q0 P
pls enjoy
0 T0 k8 R. q' M; J7 e2 S* V! J
again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
, m$ R2 i4 c; S/ YGive it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la% G& ?1 l. }  t' ]* H1 |. ]
besides, crap! interest to ask u0 {$ T& H5 V+ B
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!