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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".* W' _$ U, x1 F  K8 @
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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: E* q9 I7 d# F例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:  i1 ?/ a( O( ~% ]9 \, j
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~# u! {/ w& u* \6 ~2 f
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me5 t% L; [8 h7 ]' l5 {  S8 A- c
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on2 o" F! j9 \$ d, f& X
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:1 I- @) C! M' u. h" P

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' G# `2 l9 w2 @2 u+ M多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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2 a" q' @3 a; d4 E$ n  Chahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 2 }" Y$ _( H8 D3 a9 g$ a9 f
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀3 x6 Y0 |" a' c8 \5 d/ H! r, `

) U2 e$ _- z' X0 k4 z$ }哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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我 ...

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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3 D2 j" v# p% h# @; Ohaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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2 y3 `) C' R0 K8 \哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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3 [& j, A- C. Y哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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9 }' W3 B" k/ |* S哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦/ B0 x$ r+ d' w, k7 D- Z' }$ i  F2 G+ }

) ^2 g- m! r7 b你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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( R( c* j+ S* c* P8 {8 ]haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 7 |( a" h, ^3 r
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la4 g$ V& z$ g  j- D! ]4 f
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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