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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% I9 f0 Z4 _( C
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 {- I! `6 U& s3 e9 y
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! h* f1 f) K7 q! g: F9 Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能:<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' D* j( R( _/ S5 f% v

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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ j/ \" J. Y. S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! U, [- M  v6 U* H* z

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他比孔明更偉大
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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