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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 ]/ H, f& }2 t5 W

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 c' P0 @" x5 o& H6 j$ {& p1 S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ ], K# q( p! N3 W- |. b

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4 T8 s& Z9 S- c( ?/ _) J+ Z/ I1 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?( J( ?% T; w# P5 U) t) g
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( Z( Y+ g4 t7 P! D$ a6 O7 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. e; ^' h3 G2 K5 }4 @% k4 N
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 l5 M% V! Z2 {, n. k+ n- T

  [% \) ]9 a; c打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. A6 u. H$ x; y* C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ Q0 J( W" U$ PIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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4 d6 R& c2 y6 a" C2 n3 q9 ]$ m% V他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 C9 E# ^# B3 f  x7 ~- l8 s

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他比孔明更偉大

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$ z3 h9 I% `- U* ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) c3 ^& [* Q  \& _) x) Z+ zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 `- ~( S+ U4 R  Q% ?: G2 A# u2 \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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