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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ N. z, Y! n- V. N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; i+ {# W, Z  d7 ?* {' A9 t0 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# Q! C1 ]7 J: O1 _; M智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 w9 S2 J1 \& g1 v( R1 Z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. A0 h9 \* r0 I, q' U
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! d  `" E# F; L% W6 C/ c, d4 C/ |

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 |" S* v' q2 i4 J6 a5 c  o# A
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) u$ K7 a0 g3 R, U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 }. P2 _& ?6 z7 {
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......