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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" i! u. V  ~$ ^3 X6 X

$ M. j$ T. U$ O0 Y- tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 E9 R1 ^3 P" I3 }. x6 tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' L8 v9 l7 l: j2 [8 X3 q( [5 zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: [: T7 M4 v9 ?; }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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2 m# J0 j6 ?; S1 m5 m2 w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 \3 r, L. D. i1 z4 B4 Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 |' [7 @; A0 t9 N9 ?0 V# H" I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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' h! F" |7 y' Q( i( Z" z/ {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 G& x' \! v# k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, c, p9 X8 |) Y2 T) n
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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: R, b- H9 S5 W* m+ p- L5 b2 ?4 O, I陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......