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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ Y* i7 z1 Y$ M+ `' s$ T( T( x

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& K( b3 l  F/ }! q2 p

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5 L  I# u/ b" S7 I1 RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 G# N: v" V/ _' p0 B7 Z4 S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% B+ o: \  v. a1 w- ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, o0 Y( w5 \( X- I% p* o/ ]

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) {/ ?& z' L% j+ }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# Y+ p4 |* x* Y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ O: Q& @4 |" _4 C: R5 v
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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) T+ y6 I1 j/ [$ l% ^4 a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* M2 T- N$ S: b& w- Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- x9 v0 W( R0 O* e7 \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ c! o# K/ \0 x, d5 _( v1 \4 j1 a) U
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9 L" t& f+ ^4 [' F; \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

0 u* e8 y% ]/ }) B; W, ]+ qyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 h3 P4 u: W% J. _) N, D

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......