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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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3 E6 m; D) K  s$ g& G智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ {+ K- A  A- a( c7 w% P) ]% H6 D
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; o/ S8 x- _* X, {6 f( S" B8 C1 CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; o# P! {  [* Q- p, j" J! V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 E) Y. {/ j7 Z- qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 Z9 G! J; [( z! p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 G6 w  E+ c+ o* s6 _
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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1 m- t- _; t' L, [4 D8 w* Dsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; F4 p" ]: i$ r. E1 p6 B* i
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 a$ Z& E" F7 U4 }9 I$ J$ ^6 a! ]

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  I1 N+ ?5 t( _打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 w, q3 n3 ]+ Z2 j  S: D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 k5 H4 ^5 `' T4 S# ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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/ t% E- r& L" O1 ]. `1 ~, I* aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  a( q+ Z  O1 K% a% ]) K; [
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. X  S* |' k" y- {' a& y) |% K6 U$ \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, P1 f% E0 j" ]

! ^# H3 j3 {. O- vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......