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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* ]) l! W3 x( G0 w0 q9 x

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$ W* c- a5 \2 |) B+ E' ~1 {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: M3 ~4 Y9 v' T" O2 G

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% M; C* k+ s; I( H; n0 J
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$ P: g, E' u4 \2 A, ~4 j) w( Ywhy?
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2 d* K3 e3 b( J" ^  w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# N* ^' c$ E! k1 u. D4 y1 U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! Y) m# R5 f2 U) b2 R
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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$ {* y: Z, s" ~$ b. ?: @8 F! n3 h8 k政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 C: K0 E9 r+ A/ F; A( j& c# A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ J/ F$ k; J. }1 M$ `7 G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* m! A7 j* f+ v8 {3 Z
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ G2 @2 a3 [: T: z

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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