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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 y/ o  b: Q% S1 M! k, ^
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! i- A. t; m4 N6 u! Z5 c6 q1 G/ _
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ M9 V7 }: ~& Y8 z( T. l( P# PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* n/ f& e- X: [& @5 Z1 p3 X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ j' U* M# h( T! D( b4 h
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/ K3 T( F1 b" d! m# u0 d6 sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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0 t6 y" X7 u1 L0 p. t  G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  J7 V# Y$ F; f- v! c% j9 I$ X& b
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' Q4 D8 H' F% a7 e

' u3 |+ j% Z3 H政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! V1 o1 p/ C1 X  m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 c. M9 H) R/ P4 XIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& X3 J  s3 r4 z6 T2 J7 C- Y3 H' p

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他比孔明更偉大

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* r2 _; L6 E# x8 W; l2 J* w9 |! V( [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ W- A" O5 K( A4 Y+ v* G" E* t; r" }

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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