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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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5 U7 p( S6 z1 @* [/ i" A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* w8 O5 Q9 ?+ I
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# o6 b% h* L+ m4 S1 E3 l; jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 T) E3 Z1 a0 s9 Q' F' G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 d1 |, o3 {7 k& S- V/ x9 [- a$ S8 j
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4 {9 j: g8 ?+ m7 o0 u8 ^% \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ h/ K: F5 F& r: c0 i; |6 H& C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ o/ l! W; o: A+ k! o0 s" h
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) g* x6 @" A4 k7 c* H$ s. C

) b! _3 F- G; B8 T  _$ h+ k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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  c) M' K4 o: a, O6 C政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  |; w% {! ]% C* @5 }
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 O, W7 _  E3 u1 Z. }. T: R8 y; j% F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! s" y* b0 [" s9 t+ w) t2 S4 NIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 r( ]$ N/ F8 l9 G/ U+ c
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 o1 b4 b, f/ `4 B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) N9 ]1 {+ a5 t: O, N7 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 n) A( M8 p- n( }! Y& W) R
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yes, that's the point.

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