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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 ^0 |. P% V7 f# J( p# P& Q- L

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  d) {' h$ \* P- p

" p( K6 Y* R% l. v+ i* D3 bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 U' n* k( {$ P2 e# hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) Y; q7 z/ H! o, j$ ]7 U5 P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 X$ C) ~* K% N. }, q! l

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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: @# j' n" y" f1 f' R$ f( {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 c, u2 e5 v* K/ i8 J
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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9 ]5 \9 f/ M- V0 @! N6 T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. `+ x0 C: v+ r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# B# J" [2 G, b* {  y9 J* G- f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  G  s* p+ ~& E% u
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+ V% I) `- M& h+ \7 a" ~1 cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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; s- I2 ~5 M" n% b$ o8 ^9 ?yes, that's the point.

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