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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" m1 ?5 q+ g! G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' i9 h& e- t; u- C$ `7 @' C8 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 Z" g$ X3 E. Y+ q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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: h9 l2 Z# f% x- t( B2 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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2 m0 [* N0 g4 P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 x, r! @& I$ r
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) n+ N2 W5 O/ _5 _- D7 g, B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& I! J/ n/ t* N/ b

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! _) A. x9 K* l) kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! T9 x) f% N1 q, _5 N- |& L# c. i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( ~/ h2 a7 A: s+ ]' Lyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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5 Z9 t8 p3 Z3 W& ?. X! E, z: V) b$ @yes, that's the point.

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