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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ f" l+ \5 y  b% ~
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! I0 ?2 [3 G! o( n. ^. i# p- m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. M1 Z4 p) B  p2 k( r) lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 p4 D" v& N8 {/ U9 J+ J; N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: n- N; c% h+ g
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# Y. I  {0 e# h. W) ?% E" v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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6 c" a  U/ @1 ?) ?8 l/ r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># ]. p/ T9 ^! F0 D/ ]; {

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1 V$ i  P% z& s$ p0 A2 p7 s1 s6 V5 J打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 k) B8 Y3 S* I" M/ `7 @5 u6 t2 i* e5 U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; A6 H- S9 a  L$ i% NIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 u" A" x3 o7 c) r' {他比孔明更偉大

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! u0 z& k9 b! @' }) VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 Y* D- a% R. H) W+ K# Q( l7 N
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7 V. M+ A5 l5 V0 T2 v. n7 F& wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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