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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: u, U5 x/ J# u4 q. x5 [& S

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, K% R+ J' }- ^+ B+ ~& k2 _

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., H, o$ w1 l5 @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( t& U, ]0 F- [3 x% J2 q+ e9 K% Q% ]. CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., l* X" O+ ^: ^9 D/ Q' c- g
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: }) `2 i' O( l# Y. S9 q/ M$ m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ C* I  ^" \5 I2 N/ b: Z& G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# O0 u" e5 V; ~+ i! ]* \
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9 z- Q0 @  e% r  fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& `3 ]* K+ m2 [- b$ ~' e! @9 T; W

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& }( {' [% |. ]! m; zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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, x5 R6 W, T, Z2 @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; z* I; y  v& i) X1 G, O

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ n; w6 w6 a$ }0 N

7 m/ t& v  S; ^yes, that's the point.

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