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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% V" q  @' d5 S/ V" Z) R

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 X# ?2 a  \: j# A; g: z, k) r9 F

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# K* b  _: ?/ i# k# ^3 H5 _
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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6 d) o: M' b$ G5 }, u4 G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- O% d  N+ y7 x8 S8 D

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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) m2 B7 t9 f% G# v0 C. r打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. d7 }! n. g* GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 a2 m( `5 H. }* E3 I, j# p
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, E$ b! t; W1 w: e" s$ d; H. K% P

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) t7 b2 ]* i7 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 m/ {; G& L/ h6 A4 g& y

0 Q2 L+ _* A+ X2 ?yes, that's the point.

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