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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ |% m# [+ J' V- Z

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ Z8 a. U- W  `+ ?4 @2 X3 d9 K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 V7 s2 F! C$ M/ E9 j+ S$ [+ Q) Q% n
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( s* F: [# M+ P1 L智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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( {( @* h, F* y! P打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 ~. Y0 r2 x/ W7 c; p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" P2 L2 }5 V1 g' J# W8 s, M& _
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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0 K8 X) p" p3 S# p5 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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$ @( @9 l& Q8 s* \  CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: U/ Q* i( r6 k3 v) p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 c* p# Z1 w8 t/ d4 y6 A% l
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......