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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# ?2 [+ [9 F: {" S
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# t! ~0 g! G& Y, Z  ]) F# c7 w
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& Y% q8 q$ v3 r+ N

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 E$ ?$ }% L( g6 {+ \

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ A$ _6 A5 ]2 e2 I# w' e% D: {
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; g9 N  x% A1 ~* x$ b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) y1 T, U$ U" B
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! ~; V. `- J- l; RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, j" M" t6 y' g$ k/ G$ h6 [

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( M( ~9 H7 q* V0 \; F0 B
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, j5 i/ l9 i% |1 A& G. j. E1 N# QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 @( r. K: P& M' `3 J" r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. Z6 |! b9 P( Q- G+ a: v, g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ |* r  o+ S, U
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yes, that's the point.

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