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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 K+ _6 }6 b6 x% F

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& K9 T, p; F+ G. `$ l' R- @5 |+ u
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 x2 R0 K9 B( J: i9 W. k8 e1 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 ]$ \) J1 [8 t3 D3 t3 C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! E  q) k$ q3 e% u2 F$ Z7 N+ L: IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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see #22 Thus
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) o0 F5 \' D( r9 k* C5 S) o
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# y* _7 [0 _1 Q5 G) |1 X. L
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5 F) P  k$ [* A& N) i; fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ u! L$ B) n& T6 \* ]* `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: `2 ^+ p& H5 c1 Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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