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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." _8 Q+ _9 ~, g3 f# r- l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 Z6 Z* N% M" R$ N

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  W8 |! j& v, m( c. M) I  O6 T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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! ^+ f, Z7 [8 V+ A: S) P% u# u2 K3 {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) U0 h! ]8 @5 i7 `* z! K. {/ @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& y& k* g" B, O$ c4 ~

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7 j( s9 Q- R% M* M) b+ S9 y& r打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# e- e6 C! a+ j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 t$ A( g1 W( Q" i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 h1 f( l; g8 `' W; q! ?. k  G
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 O/ P: l9 ^& wyes, that's the point.

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