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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 r5 L( I4 n! U. \1 L1 r9 E
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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# i9 x1 }( c% q2 ]8 G* LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- _; |* I1 N* a% [* V* [1 v7 _3 j- O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! x- y: j3 z" j5 Y# n" w

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# u9 v) _& m3 `  O& X1 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 T( i3 @# i- ?4 f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  x$ G3 T' V! d  s- X. S: _
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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 \) |% @" X- R7 l軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ V2 W$ a* {7 r: b$ e, E
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* {3 x7 t8 J; g! p! qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ w: m& l0 P) L8 l5 ?5 ^) P他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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# i2 z3 N4 b% \yes, that's the point.

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6 V6 U/ f- |# {$ O' a6 t陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......