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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! |- c5 {- C' R/ a7 _$ X/ \, p
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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# A) q$ t2 J0 }* Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' ]9 s% D/ M9 W" w7 z% O$ b: \2 SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' A  B6 B* w( r$ Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 X' s* U9 i1 R2 B8 _

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) \4 O$ S4 {+ r3 V

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, J) @6 |) Z* k2 s. W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 d  D) s4 U4 Y3 \& I! F+ [, w, f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  t" j: N3 J3 Q) u* o1 X

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: c/ z- n# |$ S  w; r" E* B

4 f9 U/ z' f* W0 K  O5 u打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% N/ ^7 A7 b7 z" h) C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' b2 e/ [, l% A8 M& E; R: U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: K( r$ A' P: s( r# {0 f0 H

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 V4 `+ V" ?- i# ?4 m1 A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 j- s1 x  O: I( _

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ w  h* o- U% @8 I' R
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yes, that's the point.

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