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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 t. a6 T" u6 ^, a, ?0 k* o2 R$ ^

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 |) P2 O+ a7 ?8 t# D

  }, o4 i6 i( j! S% u7 ]/ ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* v! q, \6 l  M+ ~$ mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 Y# p8 Z; U: I1 x7 NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) n6 ?* c/ z; i* c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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1 \% H0 B/ q( o% P3 K6 Y$ k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ S$ z; C' D6 c+ r

8 |8 M# A" `( S4 l, O( ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 Q% r6 Q# a4 ~
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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3 K% D$ s7 v' j他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 J4 {4 X2 ?: P( S1 k7 `& `

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他比孔明更偉大

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6 ?, p2 a3 _8 U$ `5 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: b4 ^0 q: K4 b' h. P' v: x* V* y2 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 ]- @# N0 E/ @0 L& I
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6 o0 H! \9 R! k3 l( |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......