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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 L, Q; I0 E; I' c

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 B. O% p$ P( d
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( A( {* Z" S/ H( a9 c% G; U( _. L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! {) L+ y7 B' D, k  E
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see #22 Thus
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& F* A' Y& h5 j* @0 ?4 `$ a! i2 f/ l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 ^" ?% P4 v1 K7 y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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' k8 A+ L) Z: L# x3 b& }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% X# C& I* H( E4 h- {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 Y  U4 v1 k- c3 t. @

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( Z9 i" ?6 `: D$ b他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ T7 g; z2 `( e- g3 k
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! N% w& R) J$ I' n& N1 z/ i# n) |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( _; N' N: u1 w0 D) @- J
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......