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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 k/ E7 x4 q: A. A2 X
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ y1 ]* }! g$ f2 W( i" ]: h

$ m, y& `! Q) ~8 |+ O& g5 A. {but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. {8 K0 V5 u! Y7 K4 g, a# _  RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; B: V& y9 ^5 X  R
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% q) ^( i  |8 |, S  U2 A# n2 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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" b" r, r$ W0 r! Z4 s2 p1 hsee #22 Thus
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5 b& {6 O% m+ b( m5 }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 i% j# N2 r  G5 N- Z/ E軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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: h' M; P) m% x6 x9 i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ ]% b0 P' x# ], n- H1 a% h, e1 N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' d5 I, p5 O( W( e4 cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 ]+ t) R/ O6 d1 Y/ c0 G5 h

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他比孔明更偉大

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6 ~' u4 r5 x- M0 }" r" {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ m" X% g1 h% |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* O7 p* s& f* j# O  J0 C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 f3 c: l# Y$ L' a

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......