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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- X  f+ ?+ A7 l. [

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, m% h* ^, j* J1 x" q: Y, g

4 G9 V4 e2 `! @/ X1 \but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 R* n' q, ]2 e4 D3 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% Z  E2 w) i9 C. x! @; W, F: k( V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  t9 i+ S% N  p3 L1 V
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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. ~' y. z. c% X6 C& s! hsee #22 Thus: o( O" q* D0 B, E# F  a

1 t6 [0 L/ ~' z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 M$ R7 k8 }/ z! g9 w2 r; Y1 b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 P$ e% ], l4 Y7 u! q* Z9 }( z, B
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( C5 Q  h; c4 E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 O) q, S. @  Y/ ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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2 I% i" y# C' M( W他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# c. U# P/ J+ f+ H1 i2 H( t" R

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他比孔明更偉大

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8 E  K/ J3 t3 bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( K7 d) L! v7 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: i6 u4 r! r4 m* v0 c
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2 ^% @9 z9 W7 l* `5 m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: B3 S# B2 Z" I, i/ T8 Q9 i
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yes, that's the point.

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