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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 E0 P2 @2 x0 T# o, q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 X* c; q/ u3 F3 r  [8 \/ T+ E. E7 m

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* d1 I0 I. n$ O; @, B# Dsee #22 Thus
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4 Y1 e2 V. g  ]2 Q" \& f打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& ?# r* _5 F7 n, I! V# U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( h! D  v* N" X' v) JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 E( q7 k" b2 n( k9 O: D

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" o( T" Z+ U/ U" T$ s3 k
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( R( V% e# f+ \  n  Z( }  z$ P

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......