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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( O, B; J9 S, w, W( H

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% b. B1 |) R$ c- p. `/ {' D# K3 l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 ~; T' t/ ]+ x+ J1 {
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0 r' w( B2 k+ x$ K2 y% pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& ~8 B" w) x# A: d0 X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ J, u. X) Q$ b! |

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 d/ J( g5 u0 y' x
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) s, @2 f4 ^* Z, ~% ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 \" u; W5 W. H( E) v

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' u( A$ d+ O5 Z- r

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3 m& @) {& f+ @+ E! ~+ j' Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

; T, o3 i( N* U. _yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! M0 [1 p- v4 K0 Q3 U# R
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yes, that's the point.

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