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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 d% x7 O! {, [; t# P
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 x: `7 F4 }! D8 U% w: l& \  F# k

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7 D, x4 |7 O0 s# B  i' FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! r2 Q* D  [& i" s9 U6 K' h

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* ~' T% c0 ]7 @% L( Z( JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ U' ~9 U4 O) c- e6 f$ A

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! E1 E7 o8 Q: @/ r% Z& V' B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 ]  f. t/ u$ b4 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 j5 ^1 t3 G7 P5 T9 e- [" g

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& M7 N( F: |7 B% q3 X2 @' Q' s# t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% A- }6 A0 U4 @7 I+ l: G4 Y* i

3 G  H6 h: t: U2 myes, that's the point.

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1 r0 c$ F- Y# V4 p6 Y8 {陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......