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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 m& G0 H5 R: f7 }+ v% C& o6 ?3 @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" k4 q; \2 @# K; [  }) x+ H
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 \0 w% g7 w5 s* ]- x- ~5 B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 B6 k- d, V4 A4 j, P0 k, m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( r, c* p  H; L  \5 O% F, v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) u! A8 W3 u, z: M( _

/ Y- `( H5 T5 g軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" Z2 f3 \( ~: Z3 q9 p- z/ xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 i1 m+ ]0 G; ~! h. `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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6 `- M7 H- F5 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ y  b( A  G5 J( ~2 ?( M0 p' b# k$ I
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) G$ Q4 J8 F9 X4 F- ^) e& l4 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 b. A8 a+ H: X7 D7 I/ B

( V8 c; q0 V) C4 lyes, that's the point.

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