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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, j" g7 G: e8 l, f  s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 j  |# z1 |( O8 O% X5 P1 Z2 {$ K

. h8 N" T/ K5 D. Q1 i; Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 K2 @- U4 F. F1 {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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' C8 G9 Z3 D  U& B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" R3 u( s' g2 X% W
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: O& {! b$ t7 ?/ s" j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 c7 R: S: r. V( K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" L8 s, j/ U: i$ v* q! K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- o  H, e1 I1 R8 D$ ]" D8 m+ jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 Z; @; l) E, N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 C& ^; Q4 {. k+ m2 N4 l( O+ s& L3 J

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ s4 e6 ?6 ?6 c6 Q, r2 L% c
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......