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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 g: Y# `. }$ v; \0 _* Q' I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( z5 R3 s, K0 `4 i' o, T9 d+ V

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ L: U, y" L+ e6 Q0 C# OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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/ a- L  {$ a* X# g% S/ `* c/ ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus7 _# p0 T! ~- {  }" D5 E/ |& [
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ \7 n8 ~! P0 H2 M

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 K, Y$ y1 C# @9 A+ O8 xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: d9 ^6 U4 b; r. y' ?; X; a

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. `  ?) v+ ^. ]- \) VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% s2 U0 v4 j  D- m7 F1 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% }; q4 Y6 E# q7 M* s5 X1 @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 w; v6 D  P5 x8 }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

+ J0 @* F1 m: S+ f/ X* \yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% }" C8 C, }: n7 o$ Q$ h' T
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yes, that's the point.

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