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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) k( @3 q9 S! W8 x

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5 K. s: ]3 @3 e5 ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 I/ r" C- Z; ]' T- Q/ h

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 w3 s, l; r+ c9 ^5 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 b) f$ T6 p& W8 uwhy?# R) s  p5 F  r1 e* I* j% U

6 p! x5 s$ _) B: n. H6 L( {: U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 r5 }5 M9 `: f/ A. V4 C4 s& x
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7 e( E9 s1 d# t+ y' u9 Nwhy?
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( y/ R6 A4 r) v/ {' U% N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 B; W$ d) m3 o( Z3 A% E
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 ^% S1 M6 t0 B" |( T3 h

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6 O. U& R+ L% M- o# F7 R9 t打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 J  M/ |6 p" |1 e' b) v5 b4 q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 L% G' p) C5 C" r% x, {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ W" T# o( t& H) `% V8 ]# j4 U
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3 F( B# ^) |. [$ ~- f4 K0 z2 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 ~" P, h/ {/ m) J" q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: |0 p& R& q! D( w8 c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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+ X: a1 |- I/ U1 u5 l0 Z陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......