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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

. a3 `: `2 E9 B4 Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ d, P) t) j- s) v8 ?9 f* |* y  UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ I4 v* e3 E* i. ?% a3 Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. k* R7 r0 [" Y: Qwhy?1 n* R; `* ^) k; {  J; V

4 p2 r3 w, \% @3 Z$ X: @, V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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& x0 _( ]% E. j7 j# @5 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 ]+ {9 y5 N$ ~! c9 g5 ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ W  E( X- \  g& I  A3 @9 [$ V; G
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' J  X3 @! T+ ?
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* j: [7 V8 p! d% k! \

$ L: U" }2 I, Y: h( O$ D3 j( N8 i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 |* K" V' A# }

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 f# u; A  a# i3 e+ R, F) dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' _* A' q. h# R3 O9 QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 `9 Z8 Q0 O7 K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& G" o: n0 b: @$ ]# _1 U3 C6 s3 d

8 e4 N* L+ |8 G4 o5 a! Iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......