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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; y7 j7 |$ I. h4 k! p, J, E  f

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 J  G, n* x  P5 c: ^1 Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 C; H! r. K' R# {5 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 s2 e( c  ~6 T) z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 m# R+ V( w' C& U3 h" F$ a2 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! B: Y  Z: |( h- Z7 j. v: O

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 I2 Q" A. s+ T1 U' o; O* w5 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 }% h% u* g9 O% U5 E

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7 x% M# j+ s% r8 M( `打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ `# D% |7 z0 Q  O3 _" _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% Q0 ]' C. N% j3 O; tIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 `0 V  K& S2 m9 v9 E/ m

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他比孔明更偉大

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2 V! p  u% h6 d) P$ \7 X6 [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) c' o+ Y+ C1 G, _1 C

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 M, H6 f2 ~' b$ [+ H0 l+ l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# h' Q, ?1 e) V1 V

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......