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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ T4 w/ ?% Z. J
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 l3 c" Q9 _! J
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 Y" U" a" j5 ~& l8 S3 s# CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 L6 j4 {* b( ?: e/ D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 Q, X" X- ^) ^( @- q% F

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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; b  h$ _; P) a& Y5 X! N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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/ O3 v  h1 z  Q" Y* |$ Ssee #22 Thus
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$ V% K  S6 c# q7 J8 g2 z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ F: P5 G* N3 I5 C# N
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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0 Y/ ?2 V# @" Q" v4 [8 o3 w. B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 r6 O) j; D, Z: k% f7 \, ZIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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) J3 B* j- }3 _2 x; kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 P, P# S! w* Z2 w/ H% D% n# ~/ G

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 h+ i1 G( U; O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! b* n+ y6 y' R. ]# n5 `) D
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......