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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& {3 j+ v6 @/ @. m5 H1 |
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 s, P, y- }6 K1 F( vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, t4 h' o) D, U, z6 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 G* ]% x$ A+ B' g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 @* S; o! C! S2 h
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see #22 Thus! _- V9 ^- w+ o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 E. P& _7 v6 [2 A
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  R2 N7 a# h5 E% e: F+ o+ a/ \1 t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 A7 F* \( z2 l9 i- hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ S" p$ x, }8 Z3 w5 |5 B" x7 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 m" G/ r+ p) K, T0 `" y! ~, H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 ^3 d  S/ S$ o( Z$ ]
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: _7 }. N8 _" K1 @- S9 Uyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......