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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 s1 w, D& O* |

' L4 R  i/ M- Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( ~6 X* k8 i, X2 F# S" ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 B% y  K2 V5 M7 z/ ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 D% V5 W9 ^; J2 F: G) O' V( [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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' w4 F: G& ]/ k& P4 |+ a% w& z) A( [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 }6 B" Z- `3 [. g1 m

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see #22 Thus3 x6 `: {5 M+ ~: H
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) G" U4 I2 ~, K! c/ D  w* W

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 B3 Z2 q+ y/ a) e+ N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% |; [5 A; p& E. Q9 l0 R3 DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- y% Q, l4 ?# N) c
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 l1 R( I; W4 u  }7 b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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& S/ @$ d: {+ \8 Jyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......