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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  \! k, a; e( i; y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! i/ g- ]& f/ I

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; g+ V9 ^) l6 z7 ?+ W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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- b; Y) t: n0 @! \# `& K6 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ X1 ^# C/ @/ z% Y

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- s/ T9 `- [4 i8 ?
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# A9 z5 a6 @# U" C. q* z4 O  B0 P
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& _9 `  {8 ^0 ~

% X+ t6 b" \  F4 ~; x/ v; q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 @9 S0 f* H! ]8 h" o% Z" h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  u9 u1 r) j: E: K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ ^5 @% _2 s0 x; i+ y8 x8 t) `

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他比孔明更偉大

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* j# o# M2 A9 I* X% FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% Q( O$ Z; I) P( O

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: B5 `5 r0 K: ~+ X5 D( F' nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 G0 N" N6 o' j. m! g, Y( d% ]

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9 }3 z& j3 Y) I0 P; ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) n/ f, h% Y; t) P8 K4 L
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yes, that's the point.

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