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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* q8 {, i- X8 e9 x# J4 ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 A' u3 F! p( E! G  M
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6 i2 l& x2 ~$ t) g4 _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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* c; U. S) m* L+ R4 Y2 F5 V" G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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1 {+ C: ?& r$ i  D7 q% V4 k- l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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/ V4 F; Q' }; h8 c) y& U軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# x# d1 m. c1 @* Y8 J& B" }! [( y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 r/ ?6 M( v5 `) \  |& k- i4 D: `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 {: n) h  Z. Y6 K

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ M( h; D% ]; X" s# z! m9 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# o1 @, V  X& F+ l3 \4 d* x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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/ k+ G& E: t! O, z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ v9 i) w% X1 |; ]yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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