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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 `  l+ g3 [. b0 R6 ?, E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% a. o% h* z9 X+ h9 M: U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' O  n1 v+ v' t7 V
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ C# Z, X  y! D+ E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># t9 Q: m: }0 n7 d% N: ^) Y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ L$ |9 k7 _7 V. n& Y1 H: n! X$ M
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ R/ C7 }' `; i4 q

2 {6 l) S) b- D/ N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ f; v4 S+ Y: L2 M# QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! g) ~+ G% z  U3 s+ a4 f

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$ k9 T3 v1 s- q: A+ T1 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 L* U) a: B/ A
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( f- r7 Z2 I* x; v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ A  U- J  d8 Y# _% P- O5 t" N

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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! L9 u2 H8 e: U陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......