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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* ~, U# h; j: x; G/ ^2 C
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 J% g. Q2 F  E- }; q  p' r
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" i4 e5 T% j, Q$ z+ b# EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" D2 t  I9 w  I/ ?) m
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) i4 U( x: x8 O- D; JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ N* C# k% q! M7 U5 M/ |4 Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 j6 C5 @: ]: H3 @2 S8 M; k% N
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why?
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; Z+ G$ ]6 I/ e3 n# c6 Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 K" E; ~; Y; V8 M

! @! u  u$ j4 z4 h; X5 N$ K" H* G  }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 x  d1 p8 k# ?( Q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ D3 L2 Y8 v1 i2 d/ D3 x

2 T" N$ ^; m0 [打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# n* ~" R/ \2 i/ D& d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( R9 V% w$ v7 c4 Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 V+ u$ H# P' j& W! U9 W

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4 G( b3 n9 f9 t' k# C: H' lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  P( R/ S/ c/ h7 T3 z( V. PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. ~3 O- t% b7 Q0 q3 e& b8 j# T; Y
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ L6 B' Y! O: K; z0 `, V0 I- H, ayes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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! {4 Y1 s* _7 W( ~0 h3 {& vyes, that's the point.

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