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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( x, o; b3 S& D) `2 I/ a4 B5 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 r. N3 F0 u1 ^; C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" ~9 J0 F% e. `+ _) S

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5 |5 u) r( B' ?8 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?- _( ]5 D  h" T8 d4 b

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9 N6 R( I) n" `4 f6 tsee #22 Thus
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. H1 R3 i/ K4 z" \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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* \0 m4 L% U4 ^: H5 z: u4 h. J# L軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  e0 L8 X) e! u0 ], {4 D; s$ c

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 e  b" L/ j. N- f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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; E4 _) }$ a2 }5 k6 a他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 n* l5 j1 l7 y; e6 k/ J- g; W8 ^& t% M
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. ]. f" ^# I# f

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ j4 T5 g( c9 o, t) b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, U, Z- y, V- w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 n  k6 f+ N; |( ?  o
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yes, that's the point.

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