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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ O3 [2 L) D  O- [

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- M  J8 Q3 h' a

  D& D; r7 M1 b6 K+ t% Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% K- e! }: v/ N4 C5 @' w2 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 N5 `3 ?( |& Z$ O  u' @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 f- Z9 N' B- m

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# R- D) F* |( V! h. Q. T1 F# Z5 w" RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! T. q* j# J3 S8 WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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( }( e2 j, |4 @( a/ Z他比孔明更偉大

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1 L7 f  G* I% z( RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# l- g7 C# X# U) O1 \! z1 z
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* h3 V3 M* e9 b, d/ @: R- J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 d2 T, g% Y5 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 [* R' w$ j$ A7 Q6 o

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......