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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 H5 k4 p$ [  P3 ~9 ]  ], Q

& c) l- |; I+ [8 |- x  obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* Z) M1 o" f1 H3 b# O! H5 rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 l- x; q: T5 k. s9 \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) l* R; Q5 L: G
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6 \; V- O' C4 @9 I) d( \9 Z: \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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' [$ q0 A& J9 ?5 H) ^! K- t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" q1 n4 ~; e! I- ~
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! @4 H) e7 O8 \) _- A, r" k& fwhy?
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% I8 J, F* @% b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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/ ^: h; c- J6 j$ l) I# H% ^智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& z8 X4 l& n! j: \7 q

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+ @, x! E; x9 X8 J: U* V9 m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 P0 m* M3 M/ J* N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 d: p4 }! r& d% O) S5 WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 s/ S2 {. r, \; H9 D! e4 l. D, u他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( h3 A# z: P  B7 Y7 z
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% \- |( N2 j. \4 G# m
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 L9 o0 \6 ]: o( B' U
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......