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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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' }9 o* |% U; W' L" A5 b2 p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 {1 n: R- F/ M6 y+ v7 C3 zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* A" N/ B% F4 E; v/ o" _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 `  {& ~/ S; l8 d& E, r3 H6 M8 \2 X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 P, S. }7 h. o7 K8 P, Vsee #22 Thus- n6 _& C$ x+ ?/ l5 J5 t  d

9 i. W  r/ G( \# i8 Y# H0 C/ c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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; J- x3 e& `' X/ H' x2 s( z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# [5 Q! E  X7 v* _! Z! N" b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' u0 z8 T- F. p) l) L8 T; J$ e/ w

% x6 S, \/ O) A& Q5 x+ g# G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 J( ?: s; Q4 Q" t* {" B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 Z* K# K3 g$ ^' b5 ^& E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 W- q. O, c# |# ]3 u! Z他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 k1 ^- ?! g3 `

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他比孔明更偉大

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5 l* r' w% U" i  mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ N, \% v0 b( ^1 b$ |) x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 s. t* F/ J5 Q3 }0 w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 N$ A* a/ G$ L& g/ Tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......