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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% \1 d  P9 V& h

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 G! H' a8 W$ T, F5 Q+ w: M0 A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 ~0 i1 n1 E+ ], U; E& Q# a2 @0 k
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! y3 Z; J+ q4 e* d7 j5 }5 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ _/ n9 A+ N, ]& j7 a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?  ?  O/ W/ P) u2 i  X! g. \. n

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see #22 Thus/ }8 t) R3 A6 b3 W7 ?" H
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% ?3 c, U2 D# I, t

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- E; r, M- Y0 J% I" h! p9 }! I- f' I
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( x+ q3 y) T4 N0 k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 Y1 u) e& z9 L* L: g, I) y, J9 lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 _: Q( v6 l* ]# t# |他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% m; x4 L! \2 G: c
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9 K# G9 v# _7 ?7 Z. X; \& m4 k& R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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