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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ u4 p1 f# {2 w# a5 r9 G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) x' [9 A8 [, |$ ]1 Y, RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ w* n# h9 j* ]% N* ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ F1 @# Y; {: q% NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?& V4 X+ i7 t7 S# G0 C: g

, D8 a  m+ u% ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: R9 ~) I. A( j/ Y  g  ^3 P& r
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- u: {3 d; w' e& K6 W& s# E5 o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ Y' ^) |  g+ D" p: N& O( _
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ k( t' _. ?, B( h

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; W2 g& w9 _" e) o# H! f6 m. I. N( q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- R4 H- H4 Z5 `0 T# }& u/ n

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他比孔明更偉大

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0 M3 |: q' g0 u% rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& ^7 h$ H  G+ Q  v! c) k
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......