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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 b' K. B9 o2 {+ D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ W! P) M# v3 y$ C) V
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( p5 j& h( J0 y! S0 ^  kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 i: Q4 G6 x* x$ p6 E
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 C) G0 I, i1 J$ `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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$ m( T4 A, x+ h8 g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 A& ~# a3 D' h, F7 m
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! r. `9 r+ `# {- r2 E& n. u
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' h5 S8 [+ F) {0 W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ S/ _1 M! h& \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 a. S# Z/ H( {, V) |他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 ?' q; Y/ u6 c他比孔明更偉大

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4 `# ^4 c5 p( v; w& M+ S8 l# LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, S2 V$ N& j: g: a

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4 v* W: V& U" d1 y8 S# \7 oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( Y2 L7 j/ }" b9 T0 U& e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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4 q, Z2 l: i) U/ O0 R' q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 V2 X; `& I' c: _
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yes, that's the point.

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