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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 n7 r9 I! H( i6 K; R. a
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ F% a# t# h" A, b3 X( l# ?/ t! J  ]4 UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 A" G" f" [9 D2 I5 f  y" `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ ~+ l8 l. n" Y, q  ]6 R
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) @, m( S$ N0 Q/ vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  D7 E( n; C% ~6 V4 j* K; }see #22 Thus
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2 P) ^0 I2 A1 ~3 u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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( {1 p2 A8 W- M) R$ x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 I1 h. B9 K( m8 n; B5 C( A7 ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 k. e+ o& r6 A
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 }% A" S- g% g( ?2 B3 M# p2 c' O7 t% m他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 A! Y  w! H0 E( F% P
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! A$ M6 W1 G' L+ I' w8 h+ qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: |, S9 x. f- N+ V+ A
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! ^; J; @. j  J+ Y5 y; d# i0 m  v% UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( Z0 m) w( ~& D3 H* }$ s$ p
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( k5 n; F5 C9 S" a6 e4 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! i, X  t" ~8 I
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yes, that's the point.

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