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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 i% \# U1 p# v1 D( [/ s+ ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ S; p! {! _7 H) x+ D( k9 A# }

4 q3 C* U7 Z' Z  ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( T( W: |0 ^$ Y& C4 ~0 A* s# V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) J; ?. e( @4 d* d& v
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ W$ y2 m- o; f; F  D# R+ Z

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 ^; W( M' B, V3 p9 m' Y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* j" \9 S% T4 {6 L2 V% H

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 H5 t3 \0 o  HIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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2 o2 B/ u1 m6 {2 k; K, s2 C他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 E# D4 n0 r  u7 Y8 r; a$ {8 Y6 a
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: h6 N8 B2 A+ s0 i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" C0 F# j4 U% G& l) X& H  d8 U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......