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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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& F# O5 z& u- F' r; Y; @+ O智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! U# V$ ]) y3 e" s9 @9 q6 O

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2 b4 U3 L, _/ c, G/ C% [( A. j- U3 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 w+ p0 X3 M( i3 s5 D2 S, |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 P. q: i: x) N& ?0 |* o, j

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ }, P( W2 R* l" N

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2 o. W/ M' j8 l4 E0 Q/ c. Z* Q6 i9 |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  @8 B2 b4 e7 e
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 d9 L# M: Y9 ~
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# R( w5 w: g, u) K& C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 ?/ O8 i( @$ t7 U. ?6 |% z0 F

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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+ t* @. C6 w4 gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......