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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 J5 Y4 T2 [3 F6 D) o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' _- I1 q5 {  a- J/ h1 hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 t; D- m8 f, ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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7 U: I2 w# g7 r. u: l4 `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: a; ~: M8 ~) N, M# \- Z; u0 C) |
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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# g% l7 ]2 a) T3 m. }軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 z% W9 n, Q8 Y* `

& E3 m. N+ D9 z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 x4 b1 b- }2 J; H) B* B& W5 O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( Y! }2 l; z4 \: }1 j6 n- H& f# c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 D  H+ t2 o: l) F, g" P8 e( `8 ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; P: T7 q' L  T' y: ~

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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, x, j& N6 B7 P: Z( v3 }# @yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......