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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! L6 c+ n& F, j% z# R9 r

/ i! }, b( q- d! Lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 P5 X; l& u7 X  v

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7 S2 \: i- Q; b; n  S/ cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 P7 z" R, P) }$ E' _! x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" e( {& w3 E. D% H軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& l! |! d, n7 Y) E- P/ @

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. o" x+ g. U  k! |/ a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 f# U! ?! R$ @- `" o6 r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 g. L2 j1 H' f3 N" B/ wIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# X) `2 {7 J" o2 D; F  G+ r. g
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, B& e  w* o: {  wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  [/ A: r! D% B+ ^8 e  S* ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# Q; d- d$ ~0 r- s* w1 `$ |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& G1 l8 s3 R( F+ @

5 q2 R4 X; w' m4 Fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......