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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

, {5 [" E4 b4 e+ C  Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 r, o; m. H: z5 p+ N) |! h3 Z, GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 L. z1 g1 u  E1 }, \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) }. ^, G% V7 B+ {: {
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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8 O$ A5 [+ s8 U! `* E3 j& i$ x其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 t3 @( l, ^3 h' W' G
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( G. n+ B( |$ O% R& L  \/ f- `; m

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* f0 q" e# H. @, t" N- ~
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." e% L3 b" l+ ~% q  Y5 q7 g7 c8 s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- E% z6 I/ f3 D4 X. ]4 zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) c6 \' t6 B  l, |# y
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' `8 ~3 T, }. `# d7 A" n% }/ {; C8 k% ~9 UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 R; p2 \6 a! B) B2 B, r8 W/ z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 z4 O' @. S* j9 v* C; N" wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......