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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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5 w. w$ H: d3 Y; [& y* z6 u9 b9 B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

3 L  f  h) I% g+ t0 J* Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 V0 i8 _6 J; R8 K) L9 B

0 ~4 V3 P+ Y* g* [but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) ?9 S- d0 ~* oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% M7 a3 ~9 S. j. s1 ^
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1 v* Q' l+ [. v; S( s) ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* J) N$ i8 ]0 b. s+ D* l1 R

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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- l6 e% P/ p& K7 E! D2 D; C! {+ D智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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) g2 P" ]/ k# k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 O0 c/ _7 |2 A/ }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' g. w; Y3 _# ?1 u5 I; oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 _7 L1 s5 l/ M7 P& e. q3 T# Y) tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 Z1 l' d( N2 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( j5 y  z1 g, k$ c& X. f" V- Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% O7 y& \1 v3 M$ @$ M
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3 M' R7 P4 B3 K5 S0 o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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( L7 H  \7 c& A: A: Eyes, that's the point.

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, V/ j3 ]6 o, T陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......