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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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$ ^" K0 ~  I9 h5 Pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  R  K2 a0 b2 p$ WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ ^' t7 B. _- a) m1 ~* _1 f  V4 Q- M
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! y& S0 Y8 i/ d
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& J( h' R: H/ h* o) H, K' P& X4 P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; K* r* ?! T8 f  q2 F6 ^

$ g8 F. h0 f0 w- a6 M軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; L! }: D/ o. F. O# [0 A* [: N" t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( ~0 l. Q& k/ D1 i# a9 `0 o

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他比孔明更偉大

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* G5 e5 d/ F4 Q5 e: oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: b4 x1 A4 l" W
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2 I) y3 i, N: f$ ^, |$ |2 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 i, s  B& O& U. D2 U) D1 {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 v9 c& y8 v% b5 H9 L9 o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' O  R  f9 N, @
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......