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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 e" O* [: ?% s7 f# C
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( E' G  p$ M. s  s1 ~: F+ X

$ q1 E- j' V3 h# G1 Z7 Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 ]6 z9 u. v' E3 `' a  t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 I% ]' M* @1 C, O: p8 R' fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ R$ v- i7 |$ y3 Q1 F7 x

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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9 U& b  z! s+ }9 O智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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7 b- x: N- X; O3 z! g7 y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# f( [# f' A+ Z  Q1 D! K# ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ E' Z& r, g; N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' t' y9 l" N# O, z

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他比孔明更偉大

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! Y$ B- N- a- m9 W) V5 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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