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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 N' \* i9 ^$ `, ?) I" `& p4 s6 D* G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' f$ z& r, \3 \$ E, CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ {" Y6 b- i9 S- a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) u! L% _% R1 {& r, f! y

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" {9 u: h& a/ b- `- p: s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 w/ a) C3 o# P5 [% n/ R3 x4 z

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0 X3 o2 _/ r" Q; |, i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 G' O0 h7 P. i- u& r) q9 \9 ?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( q, S) {3 A, u8 E* w3 a" O1 X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- r5 C& M% I+ ~/ q8 r

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* Q" y1 o8 ^- g; Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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( x/ |) U5 H; T0 A' A/ Ayes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......