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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, @8 ?' r$ z  s( E4 z

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( }, H& N& W6 U8 F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 f/ ?3 c, C8 V& U! X6 o6 Z* ~* q3 U/ M% o

5 q; j$ f7 n" [* V" D5 Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 E. y" z0 Z% S7 M) l2 ]# }6 g0 ?6 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" K% h9 S! ]8 Z) O  z

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& m2 ^0 f' A9 T+ h5 ]! ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# ?& J  w% i3 x# b( E5 q, W. V8 z

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see #22 Thus, `0 {$ n& n- s; p; w) I: l
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ Z3 R% \$ d& b8 N# J0 ]
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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. r! {1 k, G# P, H  n4 q+ S6 k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# [! \& N( ?. w- z% o

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 r( y/ O8 Y" m5 A; q4 ]In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 [# I6 i) G* oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( ~8 i8 E: e1 @
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3 W4 X7 E# R# w0 R7 v  @" gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( N! {, W2 E+ U" j$ m

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......