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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' a( M0 {7 a9 ^

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; h" V$ {' p1 v6 `

  l* h0 n1 ?1 s* m+ n* Q, obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  D' d  |6 F! K5 {& X. Q$ Y0 o. _% X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& x) o+ n" |5 V
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; L' M6 U6 k/ H% S. Q8 k/ r' }% N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 ^' j" _& G+ S. g* H+ T: r

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  @" ]: {! D* H
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 e1 m7 q" e: w4 s4 G
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& }$ G: ~! J) T& e) s. q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& l, E5 N6 R6 @/ A) M, _+ ]( \  x) U
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yes, that's the point.

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