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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 n, L( x) V7 T' V2 I9 d. k* e# Y  L

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! F* ?, Q9 o/ fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 ]1 v$ P3 ?8 X6 N0 e6 W. t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 z& v* k9 v; `  R+ \1 ^

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& s7 q) _4 x: g7 `3 O, t5 g( ~9 jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; O# H' m- }0 l6 \

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" G* H3 P2 ^! c! V8 J% M

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 n9 g# k* I8 N' c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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' L% @6 v# V- Q; n' @2 MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 }. d% P2 v/ X* w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 ]3 w+ a. Y/ V; a" x2 q
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yes, that's the point.

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