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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* _0 `* h$ e* H5 m; H

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. @/ {- [; f% j8 z; W6 t- \

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% S- S4 b+ i: @/ {9 f+ h: `" A
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5 B. C: B! J9 ]! pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ c+ |7 Y6 p  @4 {8 W& r+ _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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# \. d. j8 n) ~; u# }why?
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. y+ w" m$ A! h: p# q, z- v0 W6 [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" }5 s9 c2 V, p- p+ H

2 t: r$ e& f2 v軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 d- R! G  |$ w; ~% i) W/ R7 t5 P
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 G6 m7 ]! R# {
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 `# Q2 @. F; k! L! YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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3 y5 V' |& W7 _- a. j! n. RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; a6 N; P3 @/ [
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: Q2 I; a' Z3 R1 w4 j' xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ V4 v* a" z8 O& A/ D2 k* M
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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