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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( |. @/ F! @2 M) b& D
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! Y) L! p6 ~3 t5 q$ GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. B# n) d9 f. M: }/ R1 P* ]
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2 N" B3 e- [: \7 f. l# ?( cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. B6 S& T# ^2 a+ P

  _8 u* R& \- }軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 \9 C# T  i9 M6 a& C

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# ?3 B( L; k& T1 a! K7 g) L! N7 X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' c; f; S; ~. ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* `# @. V7 R# o

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他比孔明更偉大

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1 ]- \, p- R0 K% w7 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  ]+ }# o, k$ q. \' b! B9 c3 I

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# @( M3 D; q3 h4 x  u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! K- u% d$ `$ Y. v5 v- H" n5 R% R
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yes, that's the point.

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