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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 [3 A) w1 j: E& K) ?  k, _% L, Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* X5 j/ T- j/ I4 J  Q' L$ z/ pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 A1 f$ F0 s% u" E8 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' a" z0 P+ U) T; |9 {9 _% UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?1 G* Q3 p% t1 f$ H$ J

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) K3 n' G8 ?% V" D7 ~' \1 Y

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 _7 `7 @) L6 h5 e& ]) U

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. B1 I- Q. y. ]& F4 E' J0 [
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) P% c4 u" t, z; I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: U6 E! T# Y9 K0 }0 U
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 z) B% t/ S8 R: ^7 S9 E& M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) G) K; S( @3 b7 S$ E) W9 U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......