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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- b0 L) O2 G0 g" q* m. U' S
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 W3 W" K2 n& a3 e, Y) w" m  Y- j4 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 [# Q& Y+ A. i/ M& o+ dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 [5 x2 M% X" ?軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 R+ |# s4 N  U2 R4 ]* R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 r6 ?5 A: i) G, S1 U
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ b+ \; W! r8 c  ?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" @7 {' f$ {6 u
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 C8 a3 A2 E5 F2 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 V; y9 J- F# n# P( |# _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. U2 H, D1 v, w0 ~: Z0 k* ?( N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ Z$ s- X; ^  @4 i
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- j3 g8 V, P" ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 M1 g1 R+ V3 W7 Zyes, that's the point.

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