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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: K' C# ^! y: R

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  \$ ^- f4 d0 M1 F7 f$ [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 P! ~9 V7 ?( Y) [* lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 n: v7 r+ J' O% U$ q* C9 Z* ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 Y7 J& U7 u! _
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  L( s: [% ~6 r& J9 B. v, [/ d# D

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 B4 @7 S4 B2 ~; h, s" S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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8 ]. l3 m5 R* F他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 {# e. ~0 P# T6 @

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ ~/ K7 W, |( d5 [) {( d- ~- o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 W  E$ n1 v0 v. D5 ?7 p: _

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  i6 t8 S+ w4 g1 [4 o* ^% ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& n5 \# S" |+ k4 H- t5 l

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