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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( m5 A  W8 {) n5 x- D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
' f' e# w1 D& s% ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
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. i* w$ W) a, T/ E9 D5 i5 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. |1 F( R1 i7 [- A5 y! P9 A

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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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$ h8 z- W. X* l* U, v; _其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! `# h, p$ Y: @; A( v* e
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. {( g+ R5 k; C其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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- I# O% _" A% r* w! X軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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& M# v$ x7 o* S9 Q- z/ J打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 v7 o+ k# @. l" V7 l: L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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5 B; v+ X  x- o# b3 v他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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$ I& ?, N9 K# F* Y他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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yes, that's the point.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. o  `8 @% G0 ~# Z% @7 |# V& ]

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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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