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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, ~2 H8 J. ~1 Z. m5 Z  `  `! o
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 D1 [" G$ ~; g2 g2 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' i3 G- S! S) ?( ?% V2 S軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 V, ?- b' b$ S* I7 K

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2 s" p3 |2 d3 A4 i5 {$ y- N% O打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! `( R  R+ q' s9 J& z5 `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ \) @2 N3 G2 r. _

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ q: ?6 ^& [2 D
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

3 c1 F0 r( n  X' M. B( U! P! ayes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% j! G* y8 u4 ~/ w/ z* _  t
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yes, that's the point.

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