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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ j8 Q( i8 m' z$ n- `

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 `/ |( a. z; D2 s3 J4 |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 x/ J/ C- X4 m# L. W! lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 l3 ?/ f8 ~+ g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 `3 H. _; o8 d& E1 Y3 S- i
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! ]8 w3 m' W' `6 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ A' C  {5 O# a9 q8 }: }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 v) V& N- H" {2 C7 y% S" R- C
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  N2 d+ `% x3 C, O6 C3 isee #22 Thus
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* g4 ?7 v( y7 |: }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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) n) i* R% c$ @% E6 ]軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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4 I5 D8 l2 b: i' L, j政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ y: v8 r: _! }, G& l6 ?& Z
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, B  r0 }' J: H$ W* F
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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. X5 T/ k2 ]. b) S4 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 z( ]9 Z. O3 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 d: Q) `1 S: U$ s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 s" x" F5 J: b/ D/ H& R# c2 a" T! z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

* O$ x7 D( m9 @/ r& v9 |yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 y8 n5 s! k; Q" E! Z

8 _  N+ O+ z1 Xyes, that's the point.

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