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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 \" s3 ^& W; ]: X1 F) ?

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* p" y, x5 Z& X9 e) L

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: \) }& q5 b+ _5 |8 V, yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- c1 D. R+ ^/ `+ I, s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 q( b- n6 k4 O0 Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 ]$ `8 t7 k& b( L9 t% v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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: W" @/ g; x9 l& R. L7 X5 y- L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 _, n7 X- l' w7 r8 a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 X& K; U$ r  }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ M& j- a3 Q6 |& B
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3 @4 j4 D/ }  J+ e0 DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 B/ @! @+ P8 \% E' pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: m% r9 H2 `: W& `1 F6 s! N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 F2 R$ E8 K+ v0 gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......