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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 |' H% S, `& @9 L/ U  M

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& S6 i9 V% w, o8 N+ ?& gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 j( I& \1 G' |# \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus' J  j6 e, n4 U; I9 s9 Y2 w2 y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ t# S' ~$ C% G9 p

2 B/ z* x2 h$ X軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 _3 B8 m" M1 Z* H4 j7 r) d

- W+ t, A: }$ D0 s3 Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ J1 v3 [5 o9 R' w8 ]In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 q' s0 N- g' [
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  ?7 w. u  j; t# AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ l: {8 j- |2 l: R; gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( O6 f: k* q+ X
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5 c8 Y, _3 C' ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! P4 P2 p" ^) h
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......