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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! `/ D; P: e5 M- V$ g7 T! O

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) J% k5 Y5 O0 [( {3 R
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# e4 E# E2 [1 K1 _; a3 }5 jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: k9 R! @0 g' V3 A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* U& x' s2 L* x1 q: uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 z  A( t) R* `# Z3 E

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9 ?7 R/ A8 u- c" I  D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 H) S8 c6 a+ Z0 R6 h8 p

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- e# U, c- i1 O9 c打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 H2 K# U: g6 |% ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. \  Q( l4 M7 i9 o7 B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! K8 a) h) B0 |: [; m
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 t+ B7 |9 t  J4 ~

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% i0 \+ q* Z% y8 o; x
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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