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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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2 e( _/ J5 E6 d* ]4 D' s* B. e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* x4 [* P( @( {6 r9 f6 ~4 `0 Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) ]- J7 g. \# l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 }' e+ Y) P9 j; B

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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5 p' G7 x0 ^9 b4 J" e7 b0 U' A其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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, I$ G0 G1 Y7 ^6 @0 n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ }/ Y7 ]: A( u
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ q9 T) ]3 o5 M7 A9 l! DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# Q5 k) b4 Q9 O. Z+ F1 `9 y3 _- T- @
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他比孔明更偉大

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- z6 R+ D: |4 @1 n2 W+ }/ [' [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" q& D  z% i" X6 P' d

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' O% O7 p2 k- N. ~. F  Z* \, fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( X/ T" R$ {, C- \! ?- a) n( [- _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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