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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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% I' q3 n* \$ T9 o8 j2 i+ ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# {0 U+ V7 [( [) U$ B' R% i. l1 M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& \! ~; O# |+ I, S1 n, h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 ^  t' d( Z2 D5 X, H0 n5 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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* h  e  K' U5 _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 q# d( u9 o8 h. u  s. s, F' s5 w$ n
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus. ]. J% m7 j1 G7 H, Q

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ u# v/ b: K9 p- v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% R6 F( l6 L- m1 yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: x% r" p& Y+ \' z) I4 M! }) f

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( P% @. O; d; p! M) N! N
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$ {0 I3 X) x; b& f. dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ {$ X0 j. [. ^, @! d
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......