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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& @( A0 B. a  N; `" E

' b. l: Y% Z1 d7 Rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 @. v6 n7 i& \6 XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: Q2 k6 m. B7 U( |
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9 r" Q! d) i8 H. E3 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* j) c) ]! |0 r2 ~0 Z

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6 G) R: j( E, U+ [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; m& k2 k, o6 Z: n1 @  a/ b

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7 f2 @6 B( k) _# c4 ?3 r打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& r: l" Y' Z6 g& }" b( g4 U. J

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: S* O6 u+ T" F- E4 a/ o
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ K6 B& P4 ~$ @% i他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& Q2 E0 w: B1 T- e3 V( A' q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 }# o/ _2 g7 \! r* R4 p  W

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......