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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 n; u& _( v! _# p. n

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 f- b  ^+ f/ F

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why?; |* M$ S- k* b) X, Q1 M' v, {2 I

$ S6 X2 I8 \! \8 h) R9 u2 K# u, S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 Q6 e/ T. k% Q' |2 g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ [8 P( M9 Z. v$ V+ D( ]
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 {" a% ]+ c3 j" [& \+ G9 h3 h% q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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  v8 F2 v+ X: K$ |3 T' O打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 Z! h% q/ q2 p) `9 _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ \' N" b, F/ X; ]In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 ?/ L& t: A: V% i) M& J( s
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* u+ d8 ~; P9 U: y( v  M+ X7 z
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5 W( Z7 C/ A1 {1 u) M& e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

! W; e% O! [" Tyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! G1 g0 I9 |" \2 X( z
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yes, that's the point.

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