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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* Z. R. O7 k) ~2 r% g: l
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 X+ h, D9 t( d- t: x4 w5 i% i9 Q

+ {2 K# b7 |+ [3 v1 R. jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 o/ z2 p3 K4 |$ K, M& ~* Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  T4 S5 G1 H" q6 ]7 ]  l/ e

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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0 j8 i! ~$ K( l) w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* L' |4 J  S- ?. S! l

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6 B" W. g& p4 L+ e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" P, Z! i& M5 H# T8 i
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ d2 e, E4 G+ t7 ]- u打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) D) b: C# k( `1 i( y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 e& K$ B7 G# J" S' @0 E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 T2 D+ \. T) l, ], ~2 ~' I# }, jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! z0 z4 ~+ S. ]2 R6 U  r* `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- W% E. f" s$ L8 {. ]  s
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  y! Z& t- z' ?0 {9 q/ {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

* o% w9 ?" H& syes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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+ ^5 K5 |" Q5 Y" H, Kyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......