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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 l/ W% M$ h* F* m

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% K+ P0 {+ c4 u  o( T6 t( hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ C& ]% a, ]0 n  J1 T8 V. aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( E3 z, F- \7 [- Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( v8 `+ U* t; K1 U7 J
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1 B$ q! u! g2 KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ M4 B4 M  M* g+ s& g: u0 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 c3 R2 h& O' n2 W/ Q) y" ]% d
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why?
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5 Q; @# V& q. W4 P其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 l# ?! G8 A4 Q) H' V8 K) M打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* U% c/ L8 q& O7 w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 `* v! L% R9 R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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, C6 p6 E$ @2 `  g; Y  s- E1 cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! Q7 m, g: r- `# W

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, w% f/ ^, o$ l% a7 a& V. EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 i5 P# c. D: D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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