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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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0 M4 T1 l4 c8 W9 G$ B: _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# O8 }* D5 l; F* Y  y0 u, @
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- K3 Q8 P* ?. M; s) h- x! LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! q7 B- E' u9 ]* K! S: b# K5 \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ n1 G  K) b1 U, `

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  R* I' R' j) GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 }7 L8 G+ Q; v& W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 R7 @9 Z2 P( A3 T5 r, u& J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 H9 g0 t# W1 p4 [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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) x2 O6 G' b% Y3 K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; G  I2 O! Y* u' B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% a9 G$ Y* Y# F7 O) B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 ?  K- x& S8 G; ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! b. N. U9 ^+ [2 n& g

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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