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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; s  G  V' o. R0 Q

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ M! U) V  h( Z1 I0 K

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) A4 H  k, `+ I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 G3 B2 A* d/ IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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* R$ I) d) q& ~* R: \) r1 y. U# C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- v2 _, i  v, o. X" G# E4 h3 p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- Z6 d; O( h& B7 a/ {# k' aIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 x! Q9 p5 J7 v; U7 b( ~

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( o: `% w3 z$ n* q( s! |8 Q% O
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; A/ b& y! F" R1 X# R! B. f

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7 J. o3 h0 c8 u7 Z! q- c& q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, B9 K9 O/ G. v: U& ~. Z! M
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yes, that's the point.

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