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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 j1 l( @4 R: |3 m, U

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* Y' c9 B7 {; O& v! P0 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( e+ P! V! }7 G+ Q& M, ^+ Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  \- W4 x0 D# {4 s8 Y% x! Z

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( C& C0 s3 `9 x# l# S) O7 p" j

1 ?* l/ X3 u. F$ O6 g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 W, B' \: }% ~6 V/ K" R
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# }) i! g) {& }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 D* @* P; h! j3 ?' ~6 k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. r4 c4 x5 M. p* E3 i# b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" `3 t9 ?) D, a* h& f

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

5 r, l. E- h$ \  o+ byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 ~' P3 [+ F2 b2 z& g2 F2 m) v% D9 t; @
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yes, that's the point.

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