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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ \' B7 y/ q* o+ u$ O, M5 T5 ]
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& M; S  t9 [: A' Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 v/ a4 g) D6 Y+ B3 X1 }- [$ PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 ]$ C* Q+ {7 Z+ W# y' eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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+ S. u  T% S" j: \; h# f# c4 e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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' ~' |9 u' \+ @1 i' m5 ?智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' A) x) N( n* D

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$ e5 G% I; v* d8 R% m政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 Y9 K) P6 [  f, v9 t7 @7 |- H7 FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* E+ N. Q( b/ A- l
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; u7 Q: v* \, m8 a) gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 B  O$ v' L" ?* r: b

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ |$ f9 ^8 s" C9 I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) j2 b, \' D- i! _* W4 q& Y. C

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

8 {: f4 S/ u6 y0 n) T4 tyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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