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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; }5 U4 @; k7 L3 @0 J$ |9 n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& u# b3 I* |% f% e! W+ E) QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 V* p, f& e8 ]/ k4 i' e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: X1 g/ j# K  ]" G7 F  l8 iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 I' j) j+ \$ j1 ?' W5 _軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 m# r* q9 _2 E: w8 I: p, r1 J. t5 H

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! B6 j* d9 t) B, W/ `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& ?# X" K/ d. {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) _6 u- {( Y/ }4 `& B2 m6 C

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! l0 t* G0 w1 M2 ^9 @" M7 A  u& q' b1 s

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 {$ w4 d" o: Z5 L( L) o; `5 @

& R1 l! m" N* n6 Jyes, that's the point.

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