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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 E# [0 Y6 i3 ~  }0 e: R/ p& \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% E4 \" K7 ^- SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- |5 X2 V6 |/ K+ J* X* A

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+ H! x1 f, Y/ ?' A4 U7 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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' ^* r5 x1 ~; r: `5 J/ K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; o7 k5 L1 B$ h/ I/ Y
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus+ R5 f# Z3 A: M( X1 V4 a
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ v4 F1 t8 d: N# L% _! a5 {
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 \9 J. L' m9 E1 B/ ]
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# ?. P5 L6 ?# X) T4 |0 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% x( Y: |& @  A- T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ t) k2 L  K: ]# }8 p/ x8 G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 p* V5 T0 ^+ I$ z' d3 f

, C4 k; C( Z2 w% Q. I3 Yyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......