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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# q) |% K  w/ ~' ]  x

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 X( E- F3 W8 X

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# E0 ~1 A5 e  S0 R/ f1 T: Q2 W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 v# U: R# ?; m
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ K" Y# i7 V2 j

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 g$ t1 O: z. p. j. i! ]

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 B& ~, Y) B5 N' b8 u' b3 E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( r( M  E/ o+ d, h. }/ m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 M3 z5 Q: Z; V$ A

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* X- w8 c/ `5 z4 r

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ G/ Q/ l$ P3 h8 `$ b
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yes, that's the point.

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