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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( Y  _2 l% p% n6 o) g

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 X5 x1 B6 d; G; U  i% lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 ]+ x: J& M) e6 S7 S, U6 ?3 `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' R3 _0 v' J" _1 W3 V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! f7 j0 [+ _6 M+ U) D  A4 pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 w# ~7 x2 c$ X. Z. ysee #22 Thus
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( E  |+ C2 S0 ?( u/ G( U8 {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# l. L" S8 @+ V0 r9 \; [- c& q5 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 N* S- b' b+ |3 l0 O# mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) p* j- |1 w8 k1 ?
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" [6 [/ s" M" ]/ `3 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 b/ }( w* R! P0 f. {

; d' H7 v" V7 Hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......