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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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) \9 g0 I8 s  l( S; C智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 ]1 \0 Q9 u1 I% J3 f5 g0 U1 b8 z

' u- R0 c  d. Q! M+ \- j& A" wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?( J8 x) T! h; _$ S, b  j

9 D) V2 I( n! f/ t( }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, ~$ T; K( v6 G/ a" f3 [

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 k1 C3 g0 H5 t$ w% @. ~  j3 b
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' g8 t! \+ M+ L4 M4 V  f2 Q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) W/ V+ J6 p8 u+ VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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: i1 ^# ?5 p3 dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' k- G0 N0 r7 A' l2 C; o
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 q, e3 D% v+ {- s

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ j6 x, y1 h& Y" p

3 U4 E8 g, Y' Wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......