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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 c  _/ j- Q3 z. |1 f1 d& J9 q

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ w; Q  }' n' S5 Q4 a
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- R2 o+ D" N' [* b& ]% W/ [, QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 f/ s7 ?- `; V( a4 L  q) t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ `$ I, C! v: n' ~: l9 `+ O8 @

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  p  p. \6 v7 p9 D( a, iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) _$ s) e" ?  ?9 _% N1 F# H其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: Y* ?) ]8 W% u  \
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' h7 ~5 k. l# E% f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 ?1 h# Y2 a8 \
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4 e( J- A& h- z* L- zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% X* o4 H! B5 b7 r
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yes, that's the point.

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