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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ X3 e' _: d' L. l5 L5 I4 m

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 T6 @9 w, p  n& V1 ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, \4 |- p  A' ~3 B8 B# v: U

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 {- \5 Q) |+ |; G' Z
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why?
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% S. \; b4 R4 \: I3 }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) u# ^5 \4 A" j, a4 f/ `, c

( O$ [& x0 U) }. J0 p2 g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 b# [- F0 {( g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  `# B% H! y4 j4 [他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# j5 |7 d7 {- V8 l0 G& K
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他比孔明更偉大

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# F( e2 K. R1 h' h, d4 K. CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. P  c, k! h1 |8 K/ xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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