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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. E* ^% b4 c3 }/ l9 f7 ^) f6 P4 x4 y9 \6 u
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 O- k4 e5 O' r! G9 y+ y  {

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) D: A' c! z: u3 @9 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& P9 G: t" k, K* k6 f$ E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 X' M2 I! i$ }4 v, u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) K$ x9 X3 W  V& p# y1 j) C+ `
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" }- r7 g. Q5 B, M  ]1 A
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 |# Z* k& ~) n; N) ~" ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; p$ I! U1 V1 J6 G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 l* B$ ^4 {& M2 W2 Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, x; w  T/ W' {2 E6 J6 V# L
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  m" m3 X! V( Q$ r
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ t* o2 ^' K# l% S8 Y  r

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......