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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 \3 [  L+ W& b1 \4 Y: B/ N
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 I- f2 Q+ Y" k+ L# T2 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 Y' B& y. @" q" S! v" lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 B: ~- C3 j2 e# p: ~* Q) w# o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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! e# v9 @$ w& o  v) k政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- B; A% [9 r( ]+ B* E1 |

6 l/ [2 w- z: H/ N, V打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* c3 O& O, E- C0 R* m% R# w' A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. c2 c& ]( ~. ^6 h# i; V. @$ {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 ~1 e  q$ |- g) _1 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; f+ M6 N) i% U3 K  [5 a/ w+ w' y
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/ p: ?% R" ?9 _  ], H+ o) }. pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# M$ @  c+ P2 K( _5 L% V
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

& T$ f+ n" \: x0 O) ^$ eyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 v0 _$ U3 ~. `- i# |* e& u; b( f
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yes, that's the point.

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