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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 _4 _1 W, P$ x& H

$ O, T6 N5 Z, K' Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( X  J6 ?. C4 y' IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 C: A$ o; b+ E3 Y) t* l" w! U+ l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ K1 B% s0 f3 |" ~% Z/ R5 p
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- P; m8 w8 E. s1 c# t1 J
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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1 v8 D5 k7 l7 \+ m; [6 zsee #22 Thus' V: T/ Z, c! f8 F/ e/ A. p

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3 m  s6 R- F! p9 V8 C軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# s4 u+ \! ~/ w7 w4 o
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' F. I1 z  o0 _

9 b5 s8 Y" Z  R$ ?1 }5 w7 D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 [6 \: ]( X' V9 x9 W! C& x& BIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% Q( ~: r4 _8 r; y3 ^; y) a他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) l3 y) |8 a; e9 b4 {8 H: N
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- }/ s+ E# s0 o- e2 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: ~( B% M& r3 D4 I& x
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' A% |) |, [6 k: L9 \  O9 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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+ L  f7 O) e5 qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......