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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 m# g! Y  s. R

- h5 ]) _; k$ n2 J& Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 {; q* E; v$ b6 K1 }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 M* M! z8 Q5 l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. s2 I1 h# o5 h  i- l2 S

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! v( m8 R6 f5 M* p9 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 `% f% y) k; C. K! R9 d) B9 l5 c
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 v& p2 c6 I& o% _- p: z0 h

8 M0 d3 A- B% ^- k* d- C+ K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 C6 L6 K: L* x# u1 A1 X0 B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 P$ @: T) f/ K, J) |; SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# ?4 w9 N0 {" d- q/ D; v
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他比孔明更偉大

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" z8 k- E5 Z4 e) A) _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 _( ~; ^  h" q7 M  GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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) ^! y3 D8 c1 B' R! D5 Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" x" e0 z5 @5 p/ l, F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......