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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 K! _4 e6 [3 {) R. x3 T# M% s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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3 X, n6 r' }$ _but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 P2 O6 N0 s5 y2 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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1 s, H$ P) r' v2 J& y! V4 {% Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: W0 n( @4 L& f  r2 n" ]8 O' F# ~

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( Y. i" ^3 t* G! e9 l1 p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" p! a- g: r: J7 L3 w" a9 T" p  r0 K軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, y: O) `  o; ~) g7 E: d/ u

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+ u" x& W& t4 v. K+ ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." B7 m# B" ?8 C9 d) r+ E* C* I+ L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 W$ B8 F/ q' x7 H% f+ S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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) L1 w, \3 E$ `2 ?% s% o他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& [* M: R: N& x5 _. W' o5 @2 ^2 f

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" c2 E  k% X4 L- P4 H1 }& IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% H# j2 ?- e, q* T) q0 t8 S

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& x* ]2 o  w% l2 }; b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. c) |  i0 X. O" ^

) z2 B7 L9 J$ W1 Y3 xyes, that's the point.

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