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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! J2 q3 ?% S" @3 _$ H' O  }4 Y

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! i/ G9 Y) D) Z1 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 p% n) e- P. _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ I5 y9 d0 o: d( B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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: C  E9 W8 z) V6 c5 r/ Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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8 j; R7 @1 e& d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., @9 K2 R6 b8 t6 `0 o) A8 `* S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! M8 {" K6 ~; A' {# g' o! ]6 l  tIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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2 t% ~2 t; o# p) \他比孔明更偉大

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% L: M& c8 ?* _; C7 ~: v' E6 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: r6 {- v+ F! h& [. g

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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  r9 w& D, R  x7 o% |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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