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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 S: Q6 R* B  obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* T' K7 f! O2 Y: Q1 \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: i# G9 b; M5 J  h" O" v) r: k
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3 I4 m( w# H4 E( B' Q* zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 Q8 |* W; f9 t
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why?( f. J: t' s& j5 c3 y1 w7 Q# x
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 q# o3 G% x5 k* ]0 P

5 ^1 Z1 Q* X- A" p+ l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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4 I( {6 ^" B' G( P5 R& I軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! q9 z' N; L! L7 o# f

$ k$ S- u2 n) t6 }政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 Q% f/ ~! V/ @$ e) o" X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ h: j7 L' {% z/ e' pIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 X9 C" u/ r" {, \# I  }2 B
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( J( v5 d7 N8 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 I4 _3 p/ Y+ }9 r- }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, K7 ^$ S0 ]# }0 T! N
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yes, that's the point.

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7 ^: y" H# Y; c  Y& _  t陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......