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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 j# w: b- l1 _

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4 t  Y4 S, v% \( ?( `; |1 IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 u" ?2 K& j2 E0 M3 s; G* ?% D- F: Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 ~9 D) P6 i5 E, s$ Q4 s! d! LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 R0 }* @+ h: u7 Z

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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7 ~; L8 ?/ m# }- d智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 [! {( }" M4 J1 ?5 D2 [7 ]

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 ]% a3 B; C* J. ?5 l' B& B
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 ]4 g1 u& ^3 q8 R2 b+ q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* R2 U- O* i: j7 M

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" G0 [7 L' K5 Y- |6 y* ]

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9 K) Z$ l9 B0 S* e% a* jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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