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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* \" q1 ]0 B1 [. s; R% \
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 V1 L& C- @1 @) C5 r" ]- j4 P9 B; {

+ Q+ O0 `0 v! q9 [0 wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; L9 O, ^, s3 X/ S7 {) }7 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* _# u. X5 W1 Y9 z! O, ~! bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( F$ h: e! T2 Z% D) h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- w1 m8 }6 T; d8 L

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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: I8 G  j& G- ~" ^. [' N. r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 J; x! T% S4 k0 d* w1 G* w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 C/ S: Q3 H6 m! pIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! Q- y# p8 h# Y! Y1 U" ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 O' b2 ~- f# s+ T; }. [& n- R& d

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 i; f6 l% E: _% u6 @
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......