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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) k- K$ r9 i, {( |4 L
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! J* W% b7 G; ~; _: {& j2 m
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# d% J9 I8 A# j4 M' y, H5 |7 R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ ^) @& V4 ^! d' n( f6 i" C9 l/ g  A

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 y- ^5 R7 d. x6 d4 E# M8 Z+ u7 Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 r# F! e: v! U5 E3 t! n軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( d3 W( m1 o% q5 b2 w

+ k6 ]6 I* _$ G. r4 N0 u7 N! t* `政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ {" B, L9 w2 w1 e" Z# y* T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 x( {2 V# {2 I7 }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! z1 ]3 r4 |6 t6 Z0 i' s) r) JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 a- r; p( P' D' I7 V9 K
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! U! z# o. [8 d8 d) _他比孔明更偉大

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+ Z) c% Y% r% u# q( K. K" w) _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 |+ B! N' Y. a$ U0 j
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# T+ H4 D, |' N+ `7 K# TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 M8 C1 J% L& z) C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

# a/ N8 P( t( W+ Zyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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