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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 D  }7 D+ [! |! ?7 c; I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- a- M2 g+ ?+ ~9 v

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; _9 @0 g" @9 sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 w# ~* W3 X. v" ~$ p( Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 @% Q* X7 x# ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 ^* z+ n; |# j$ A5 d* ]8 w
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8 z7 Y2 A9 S# w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  e5 e& @* a5 C+ @* \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. B- @+ U1 |2 z# f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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2 h# A1 u( {0 i2 B( A0 c; A" }& ]: I他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 W  i0 h' U, C" H" a

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 s3 w# z6 |: ^9 d2 K+ yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 c$ ]1 V4 L" w/ a4 D/ S$ O4 _

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7 m1 t; v: N2 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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