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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; m3 ~4 g; F% C* n% L
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- u2 O; Q* B" ^4 x: G5 K4 W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! P& T# \# G' U, i& Z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* [, |7 h3 c/ X* IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 ]3 [2 \' Z5 }0 q; P3 p) v
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5 g3 ?. d! r- `( e/ Z' e2 P1 ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 T  W5 l% R% C7 l- |5 V4 l- j' r. C

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why?
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; E/ ^/ _0 Z4 t3 u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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* J5 p) T+ @" U4 a! t* n軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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& C, ~, Z, G0 Q8 C( a, l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' Q# Z  R7 c% `0 \; u9 O. R) y4 F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 b; z. t4 l' S9 p, u( d  \" R+ e. TIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) j# s, d; Q1 k. M! A

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; D- Y. L7 ^! U* |7 m9 X2 y0 l2 wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! J0 u% j% P1 `; IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( T( }9 @+ j* O( l2 W/ W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# g- }% J6 ]1 V* Z* p% b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

# f1 F. O7 v# i! L' ]yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......