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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' y) l4 T( j" ^& D+ k  [

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 u; e: n6 j% X# ?6 y" X1 V2 mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ G% O3 i8 N) D3 y' I, Z) j6 G& \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 S5 b& T# B/ |) G) g: Y

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( l3 u5 d5 e% O2 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" O2 H4 E6 ?* G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  {8 t3 f/ x; M' i9 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" p8 ^8 y( G8 n  d1 T7 ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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- b9 i" S. K1 h5 i" j打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- L9 `! _1 t  _/ x; RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ Y# F/ g* x) b

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9 ^. Q8 K9 L" b1 o& [他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& x+ d8 X! ?% z+ L% ]0 K6 |

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 [9 U( f( S0 d" V4 V. z  Z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......