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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ H8 V4 ]+ G, K, |

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, t: T' \9 G7 |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ M) v+ v" W9 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# O, g/ k1 p" Y8 X* b( S* J
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 |9 m  }& \2 \5 F5 {% T+ ~, {4 E
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8 q- u% E% X8 U9 C2 V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' N* i7 T( m  s3 R, ^" B軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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& {: V0 c8 M$ {$ R. T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 f  n1 e0 B2 sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 ^& B+ I) S; K# |  z' [7 y2 Q# h

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ l4 g  E0 [' n' [( l

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6 e2 w' f8 X3 k0 y  {. M$ e/ n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

( t, y# ^) n5 h- o# hyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 \4 J) K0 x7 o0 I

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......