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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ C6 p0 p2 e9 m, U4 M+ c$ NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' @7 a7 O9 M5 }3 U
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- b6 n: h: U+ KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" ^) {1 ]- J; `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  O! k4 s( i' z, B4 m0 C
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( N! V: K% B+ t' P8 E/ D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) W0 I' O5 S6 Y8 v2 s) Y5 Nsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 R$ x& f' C$ ]; K/ c% o  K9 F
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 s1 H$ K' i4 @" x7 AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 Y4 P( D! m( r( k, z9 x

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他比孔明更偉大

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5 s, A2 p& j% [2 v# e6 xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) i# @. @1 ?2 K# x3 c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; R% k& q7 I3 O4 Q. o

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......