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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 w4 X* r: @/ W9 X; }3 V2 r

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) t* b) L; _. Z& e0 D. c5 T

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8 z5 m0 q6 i) r+ [* CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# o3 Q  A$ t: W: \$ }" U- C7 a. S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 {  q0 P- E+ @# x  a9 P5 I
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# m( z9 Q, F4 I3 qsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" {8 F4 x5 {! t5 Q

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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1 O$ }& n' |& }& H% m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) s1 M# D+ U- b' M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 r9 j) [+ s) tIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- X/ N0 b8 y; \! W/ u

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8 v  T/ P) m( OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 r! ^7 p2 F1 t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

9 `5 l, g6 c1 z5 Iyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......