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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. d% i9 ^4 i1 i" _
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 X+ W) X. s. OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 q1 h. T1 X" \* Z; |% M" e
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ Y: j, R4 V6 S" c2 q
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why?
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$ L* |- G- U5 @' H$ B" l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ c' J- ~2 L2 o4 U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 m7 b  b( s* Z) K7 N1 w5 g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" y  |/ J7 {% Z/ X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) ~: D: n% {6 U* G+ i: U3 [
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' u' E( ?- E9 B* N; i) K' ]+ P
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% B! d2 c0 q* F3 j
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......