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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ k/ n# j$ e) c  R3 M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" r8 O. M1 }* E. ]( Y$ K$ X
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 m; }6 l) ^: X" J

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 e+ @8 z2 h+ v% f* h- K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 t1 S9 ]# u2 D9 C* T# ?/ q7 y; c

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, w. L- t  Q8 {$ r% Wsee #22 Thus
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8 f4 [- f8 C- T! y5 }軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 t) A7 [, E" T% o( X0 q5 y/ x8 L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ |7 N1 f% S) K5 i+ C# GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' o3 [5 e6 y, @# U: s, ^

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, N+ P7 Q3 |: E7 f" W- N2 v7 ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* M( n. Y# G3 v6 u: U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......