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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( I  R  g( I' C9 D5 i% e2 s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 x# a; a3 h" O8 `# u. G! H- ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% j- ]$ E9 W- c/ }$ _1 k
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 A% j' ]8 ?2 J2 Hsee #22 Thus2 Q$ w$ z: `9 |! K

  z4 K2 p2 g5 m$ g; B7 g& P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 \* i: S% ]1 B0 b, ^% A

3 ~5 c. r0 }. }3 W5 I) [/ \軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 C3 t/ Z+ G6 `& e* n* J" E, Q, v/ a  F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 B5 _5 `& g* C4 QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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! c# y$ f; G! l# T5 W9 V0 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 ?2 F* N0 T, y# z1 S% V8 s& ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 D2 M; B- f3 c7 p陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......