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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  A$ z: {) o! x- O& K  @but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" E" m5 u  ^+ I/ X; ?% Q

, T/ X# Y9 N" p) s, _4 H8 Kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% A$ N  L; j6 ^2 l+ k. [2 B( \, q* y  b
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why?
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see #22 Thus7 v5 H# B' v: [7 z

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0 y1 \4 U# f; z7 v! o4 O6 M+ n軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% L' k" C- F1 i! D
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. j! V. R$ i# a* ZIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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# P  O. E8 R6 j) QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 K, |- K* i3 s! f# I  W
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- l1 E% R/ G  O% R1 C* H2 s
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 q/ Z% f1 X0 p9 H% D7 W9 d9 L

& U5 H5 K3 N4 S2 s5 ?) Tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......