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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ Z% ]4 f  Z3 s+ m$ ?: ?- F# y

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 p+ y/ l9 M8 N# ~9 P. `+ p. vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., s8 p1 b3 y4 N. b# _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  N& n% Y% ?9 l7 w1 [( w3 ?$ M
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& }  m/ [! Q% a: |  w6 Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) a% D: |7 v. [! {) M6 @4 H

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' b+ S4 g. ]7 x- _5 K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- Y5 D3 f# M5 E: f* p4 V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 H% B% C& v0 b+ r) j

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8 G: ?7 A8 l6 V. O/ EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ `1 f5 c8 U" }* }* c- r4 R% o

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' g: [( I& g( C1 ]$ q
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......