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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ e( Z1 R) p  [5 R/ c9 b
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 a4 ~! Y& s" ^" w4 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 i, l3 h- [8 ?2 |0 d6 r: ]( S

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* G. u% ~4 ]$ k: U. A

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why?
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5 N, N0 o) P& P' l7 q2 |, w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 U$ I# I. w! ?) s! _. U" k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# _/ ?+ x5 G0 {( I5 R, M" Hsee #22 Thus" q& k3 B+ \% O0 l6 R8 l

5 U- P: X7 I" D! n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. p' d: E& O! s
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( ~7 F0 D, C: m0 ?; f9 K& P" s9 |政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) _' R$ D; f5 e$ e- y' I! R

: C3 N9 |, ^3 r9 U# W打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- R5 w4 M' i& m) L* h
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: I- {2 n: k' G/ V6 aIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  z3 C+ P/ z0 I6 d- \他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* w2 z1 G+ D, M) S
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% O+ z* i; h+ B+ i; x0 y( ]* ?# y2 b1 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ m! i! C5 P+ g, z* v; c) T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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