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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- `8 z4 `# {. l9 N

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 `1 _# t3 f6 e' A! M' j. X) XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 Q- w* a- V2 J0 b% nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# Y) k0 }! z9 m2 T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 K+ |: t& [/ z2 |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 C* [$ e+ X; a7 k! }. l  \8 Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, w, v$ _. E. \1 i' o, e3 S; R
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' B9 [5 e4 V: l/ c3 n7 N
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 n& b  r. W5 K3 g2 d
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 w# y1 C3 X& [* ^3 rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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% o5 Y. d* o0 F2 d# g1 C, ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* ?( x9 J7 i  o( J
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他比孔明更偉大

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, r% c* \# {6 ^" Z" sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ c+ L6 L4 [: Y. x! E

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 y! a" n9 |  V0 V5 Z0 ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. Z9 C5 D% j% }

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