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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* m$ @5 Y  g6 G! W( |( f9 }& D

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* @: j" W9 _# Y6 c; P6 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% @' R9 t* K: |$ L3 ?6 @+ {0 Y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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$ k# X. J$ ^/ _+ b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 J5 D( \0 u  t; G& e6 t+ G+ P* Q

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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$ y: L( N1 f# Q  M打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# V1 c4 h) i+ y. p; x; z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 q% O" |( X9 g2 J8 U7 ^) V1 Z; p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* {* i9 h& q( m7 ]; M
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9 a5 P8 I0 ~1 x+ t' [他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 r! U) q/ O$ X5 m0 E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......