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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& s0 O6 E/ X/ _( k4 f9 ~$ A
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) v! `( J9 M9 |  p, O8 l1 a4 V/ D0 h
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, }$ R- u  h: O5 NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( c; i+ t, Q4 I; _- ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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* o$ A% k% Q7 i2 `/ w8 dsee #22 Thus
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: \3 f0 s( r6 l# {! W) A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 ]$ h0 ^5 e8 ^
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* {8 _4 \" s' O( y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( D1 v) _) H8 d/ DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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" ^: e1 W" e+ Q4 ]2 j+ z! W/ ^4 f& M' C他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% ]0 ]2 [+ d$ x
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7 O9 S9 K# l1 w) I6 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ X4 r( q1 p# C1 i; m7 S
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6 [  @" r' V& U" w: N2 a* f/ iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( e3 M# e" ^& M  ?7 q
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" }  A9 S' o2 U
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yes, that's the point.

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