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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& ~$ x' Z/ L1 d# F& V7 k7 m

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! Y+ Z) A( {& D+ ?6 R  ?% Y

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' _' ~( R$ M9 w2 g
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 Z" P( a9 C# E8 r; j  kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 i( I3 D/ R: o) n+ Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' O' ?; T8 D9 q0 l
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" A9 O1 K+ [8 E: zsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. T+ K! G( `/ f8 f+ R

; e0 [9 g- s) J: K9 o- U( H, c/ q3 q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" t* n8 d) E8 t) u% {) L6 w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 E" x+ J( q  |8 Z1 v) L

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  G( [  p0 Y+ [/ ~他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. B7 R% Z/ Z/ A3 |* _$ B

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% u5 Z  r0 Z3 ?1 F" n  d, W  h/ m
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......