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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: h! Y, p, A1 n$ R& [2 X8 N

7 H4 n0 g9 w$ I* P5 vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, e3 ~+ n/ J2 ?' r$ K6 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., \8 Q8 I6 J7 t1 P1 @, D" W% f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" ?$ E/ r- [9 H5 dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: `' @6 j$ F0 i( v+ d  ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& A3 t" ~( s+ G: L
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why?
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3 K2 u2 j# }) K5 A& U+ k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus$ m6 q: }( n% ?

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4 X( Z/ o, C! n8 O/ a6 b軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' R2 J) c8 {) c; C* o5 R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: E  J7 i: R" a9 @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: s- \$ B" H6 V9 R- x4 K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 a* Q$ n4 Q4 V$ Q4 AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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7 h! Z$ f4 g2 Y2 N4 D$ |他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 M$ p  ?6 o. j# }- [
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 A; _1 r. D- D5 F: w7 w" d
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......