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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! N) S. M3 O# U
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 j  A2 l3 i; ]0 V& J9 X- o

: W5 @' {- b& Z7 k4 O/ I/ Bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ d- x/ i9 M  a- DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., U' c6 u- n2 S" p( R: ~  O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" z$ r: I: x+ w) B
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* }2 `" I3 w9 a8 x- i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) g% e5 {! j' F& g) y* G# b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! p- C; @  x# ?  u+ t
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/ a- `8 p) t% e- d( X5 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! v7 H2 ^2 h- ~  c" O
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& q6 p- K, t6 M9 v& @' M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% ?% ?" D+ i$ l7 g+ ?/ W7 {0 Z( M& |5 ~

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  P, i7 d: @" S' b* {5 q1 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- B. p" T9 u0 {, A5 {6 o, o

: K. J3 g& S" ~" q9 \* w( ~yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......