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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- M# R7 _0 ~) _6 t

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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# P& y' k2 ?' l' W* m+ [* XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 f8 h- F1 s; l! K% d+ S* B  J( i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  D, L  d3 C1 D0 d
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 e  h4 F8 W! A, S# ^# N

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7 V% V0 m* Y/ ?3 e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% P5 m% }) }" s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  O  D8 h* T! E( r: n3 h  GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ n2 z8 q% T- n/ A* N
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& O9 {( \2 x  v6 `( S5 J3 U
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$ Q3 P( j& K+ lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. z/ x* {' a. \) E" W" M
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& C3 V4 @" [; m  }
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yes, that's the point.

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