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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# `5 h& ^& S" P- K, Y  p0 Y% cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 K: X. U. H9 z( y/ F. a. o  {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 p' ~% v5 M% o. n; S
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0 e; _+ V6 h7 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ I9 N5 S7 {0 N/ Y

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 b  o" K$ B) F  Q& u. o$ J" g& O
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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  d% _9 \' c, A* a軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. o4 W; q+ P9 V, a6 C7 z
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  g9 L' J+ Y6 t/ |2 c; ?1 Y; RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 X7 ?( s% H$ e$ zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 z2 V0 S& L6 IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 x9 u# O5 N: q! i, Z1 O4 j

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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