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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 z3 v0 b, h- Q" j
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( ^+ f- U# R3 Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 z' X3 _& V6 D# D5 g8 \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 E+ z; g# Y- J* @# F! u
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* I! V6 s+ Q. e# t$ x3 V+ E
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+ a6 I% \2 B2 c& X4 T: YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 y/ N5 R7 Q: M# {% y
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& d! G) G3 p; P* h; Y7 b: n6 U0 l) Jsee #22 Thus
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$ f2 _9 ~" J% _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  B& O& U% a' L# y7 v

- ?3 V! I0 B+ G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 p) I. |1 h% ~* c2 Y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: n! i) v6 R, O. R! FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ B6 J# O0 j& N# \/ q! C7 J

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( D! D4 j3 `. ]. A! P2 C' {+ d/ hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& \4 z/ n  [; }; \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& I; B, b4 o4 x2 g& R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- P+ n: Z# o, V& u
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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! b" T( o+ E8 H$ S% `" D' {yes, that's the point.

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