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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 T* j  v  E& p6 X1 O! T* Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; t3 Z+ c+ n! C! l3 t/ n6 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., b" ?! U5 @" }2 b  A( _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 ^) K$ ^% k0 t0 n/ fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: K+ y* u, R% ]) a; E2 @

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3 A! ~* a+ c& |# m4 U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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( s& E/ z, U, t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& X% m$ q2 t# n# c, A5 f) z# T
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 i" F4 R, G  J2 R) w1 a  k
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& h+ ^* @9 N1 {! W( oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ [  S* K: i4 D  a( _1 z
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 U+ k2 i7 c  c4 S' WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ ~( K. D! Y, l" d& e
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' X9 \8 K) r5 v% J6 D9 Y0 y

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5 ], x+ ~5 e; R, C1 Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( Z% Y8 d9 V* O# q8 K" R
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yes, that's the point.

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