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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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' h6 v, |7 b6 X$ x2 R7 }4 f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 Z2 d( j  l3 R  Z7 J8 C& Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- W/ w; k, B9 Q. V2 Q7 jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* _+ v+ c. H6 b7 y( g+ i" c, q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( k$ V5 [3 p% N: |+ D1 \" z, U$ e

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4 S' J2 \4 C- ]# x( W: QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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! n. ]7 }( l' a0 |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 p* K  g; h/ J; t/ C

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 }, b$ c4 e3 V5 X, x  U# Q

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+ ?. h0 R/ p. l' O4 ~0 ^2 h8 U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 J# M6 x( _! q7 F7 i4 {+ A  f6 n, mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* V6 P% U' ~4 g% U8 j$ Z' Y
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他比孔明更偉大

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; d* [' ~9 v3 J% k; l9 V) eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 K8 _! e" }6 W5 e- T7 P; W

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& `* H/ @1 e6 b1 j* Y, [+ Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 Q3 ~) }9 h! \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

1 t/ H. U$ p6 P. \2 byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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  X2 O6 t1 t) p, m9 O2 v陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......