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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& ?+ p- Z9 h9 y) \* l; J9 j

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7 N! x$ D( u9 p: ]' K+ o+ k; b6 o1 y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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- [: {/ g& t/ y3 xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ u% h+ ^, y- [/ CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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' |( V9 |/ b% n* X' x! p4 D, _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! a/ t$ G4 T: u/ h
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& {8 K/ u& |. R$ Xsee #22 Thus( @& F/ P  D8 w0 A! t% h

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! _$ L2 c2 m+ G7 u* S; ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! g+ Q( g, x% l7 L- z1 M

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' _. t) z/ I$ ~3 [& GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: t6 m- J; L+ H1 Q' J$ z3 t3 T

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+ ^) [; m& A. n- E: @: i% o  fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 J) M- L% w( F; M$ E* C& t
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# b; f. f6 b3 A. v1 \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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. t* p5 r- o3 q2 o/ Q3 T* N陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......