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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 Q$ w  Y  P" J0 [$ q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, l; V3 l' \; ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 N- Q: M# |+ ~4 j! ^; SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 y8 z; {6 a0 r' e. }/ O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 I* c0 A( z0 R
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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  O! a7 @# W& E軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ H7 C5 v8 Y( m+ w
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. i3 Y" z) J. _- L3 j

# ]* G1 s2 |% K/ {% R2 G7 m5 k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( v/ L* T+ x+ @; Q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# u; v) I  l' ^$ L4 YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 @; l. G7 w7 j- Y$ ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& z1 W% q8 S( L/ l  l2 f

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& Y  k; D+ g* s& W! F7 a7 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

' \$ P$ p, B: }1 p, N1 syes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 k/ w4 T+ x: a& N' R; e* k( d5 d

; f6 q7 S& f( N" D/ u0 Ryes, that's the point.

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