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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" I9 R% V4 X$ E/ G5 n& n* f) ^  |% I

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4 r) L% I+ h7 w0 c  B5 a' m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* o+ r6 b& x$ j: N7 B. v% M

0 E8 ^4 R9 Q) Hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., |$ t5 q2 D' @( v( K1 X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  b( J) k0 V! e8 c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, u1 |9 k' u! i' c

1 S+ K% a5 s  r; y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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4 l, V* h6 l- m軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: A3 |% ^* l; {: ?5 S; E
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 t! |8 ?0 Y9 z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 F: {- j' d9 F- r* j" i/ D" e& M他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: \$ D, a" [; a- U  t
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( _* I9 E0 k+ b. }- {他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 z: X" o8 h- n3 Y& ~( [0 ]6 Y

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6 R. s% C- O6 x6 x  V. ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- v7 B# n, p' m8 H$ T8 Z7 f, x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  W5 i4 d: X0 S7 x# [0 Q2 @yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......