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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ s1 k  k, c% [' k2 m3 e

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 c' {% X, e( q  \

& j* [" x4 F/ p1 d7 n8 Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 `- F: x3 L: O. \0 Q: ^+ tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 B* ^! Z8 g( @
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 y, c. a2 x. L4 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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% K% [3 c" Z( t) b6 B/ C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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, [5 k4 x( Q2 S0 P2 X/ Q+ c政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% ]" D3 u0 X+ ]6 u+ h7 m
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# u" V; Y& I; Z. NIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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$ U! V& b5 N# \他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( p1 g8 H$ W+ L3 L2 H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ ^/ {5 Y) g/ U. Q+ qyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 K( y: h* t/ v9 W* J
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yes, that's the point.

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