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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, w( f: o+ a, A; K& m

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 x/ e9 [2 o% Y0 |8 W$ xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: g- d  V) F2 V( O/ s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* d" j  [4 A2 K" Q3 [/ M4 }1 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 o0 }1 R: |- `1 V* ~& y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( M8 r: T! w/ x2 U; dsee #22 Thus) {" ?& y3 W8 Q+ P
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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7 Q& }1 d0 }" q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* L! t$ e* M7 e  m% C* I2 ?
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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1 n& G! x) I* ]7 c' e9 l8 ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., S/ D: V# L$ ^3 B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. s- c. O* v+ k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  o* \* N  O2 R# \0 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* O+ W9 @$ W* T- d' |. }" T. ^- |! c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 E. b' ]8 h# L: A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) S6 j$ o6 |; p7 J  t2 a- {

" ~7 t* [/ |  `$ L) l) Syes, that's the point.

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