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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& i& O/ ^2 s9 l* a" ~1 L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, i9 Z, L' [5 O5 W* z; c
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why?  R/ ?7 o. b+ z9 |

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; X8 |- R: A) S1 \
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 ~! R; w. X& U7 |
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ D$ e- L) {+ p5 S0 {
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 T  T* H7 ]1 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' N$ B* G2 O$ p: O4 G1 y# }# \' eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 g9 H- y8 M% F$ J: q1 Z) j

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他比孔明更偉大

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8 ?& U0 z+ C: _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" A  I% ~7 ]0 |' ~
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; @* ?  C; ]9 b) r+ J
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yes, that's the point.

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