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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ S& S6 h& |, u9 z6 a. L4 y

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' @& s" B6 F* u( \& g$ QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 W" q+ E% }6 @8 e  D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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1 b: A1 ^/ d. u8 Y8 t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ L6 v' h0 N, Z! j% ^see #22 Thus1 A. w5 n* M9 J, v; ?

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ L; m! S' t/ S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 |0 \. D5 ]7 m( _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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+ i; W7 B2 e. ?1 ]他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 y7 H$ y* K' G

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, F" D* M3 t7 L7 RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 k2 d. \" o, ~; M- a3 j- {2 L

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 R- @4 ]# W4 a. R2 H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! U- A0 A" h- T; y* C/ Y! W
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yes, that's the point.

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