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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# ?- p# T) H4 Q! {0 {( K& O

  @+ _: T& i! n/ _: A) dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* i  c6 O0 U, e0 R% sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ M4 L( v  p% Q  |8 K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 k1 M9 L3 l% c# BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ h  m$ M, m- M% E! u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" D! e! X- ?1 }& F

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 J* Q- K3 l* b" o# \0 CIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 W! W6 E% e, a5 \+ w

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+ ?. O, y" Y4 e2 ^1 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 v# ~! S, ^" t5 C& c  m% z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  S0 o/ L$ v) {! s- o/ `7 t" V  h

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$ R+ I. h) \" A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 y# w; X# x4 U% r

2 [' ]7 a; j2 V5 e7 S6 W- Byes, that's the point.

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