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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" Y$ d" R, k( g8 q' H4 ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 c! s- U: p" N/ \& d1 NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 @/ U8 W8 Z+ V& H; K4 k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 F8 n8 @+ }; ]0 q
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( Y3 b- x( d1 l. P

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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- S8 R5 t0 V8 B# @# b  p軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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8 n/ C8 I* m" x% D: A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 `% o' m/ g3 w3 AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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$ [" X1 l9 S# V2 l' J$ ^- J, m% sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( A- l% s/ [- `+ pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 h* y1 @+ ^' m% K) P4 f1 _, e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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