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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- @4 c8 i0 D% ]. L* u
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 ?1 j) p% v/ ]# Y- T# ^, o

/ m. W$ `6 @' g, U* k# {- s! Bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 t" J$ t% Z6 ~( x+ m) }2 N- XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 z' `) l% m; b: y% ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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( C  c& [9 C) C0 s8 T1 O) b( ?3 ^see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* c& }; G. i: E1 k1 N. R% Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 u% L+ r- c  X( P' Z7 }7 `" b, `7 N3 KIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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" U( j# s; Y) t! n- v5 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' N  ^+ \6 S& j- O+ a0 ]/ |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 ?* W, G9 A% M4 O

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1 O7 U9 A* @/ I: V# d0 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......