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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 M. L. Z/ E7 y& ~! P& J' \7 j

: z. }; s9 ?, X; Z1 m, Y$ ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& N. T! v' D6 B/ \# o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 U7 N3 A( Y( t* f3 L; u- }

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' Y" F; r4 f4 e/ B. I: z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 r! c9 X' b" e# {7 h! \( F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 p. J& W; e2 U" p

5 k) H0 X5 h& G+ l, P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 E# v" X4 o8 I
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ i' |/ s% w2 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 T. F5 ?; [! h, \: ?. h! m* l  T
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 g+ x2 l% Q& m) V- W9 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  U# J6 L) l, u" Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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