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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. `5 l( [7 W# v

' R, R4 n3 @' mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 d1 x8 k' u  d- v1 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; k) v* Y7 ~- C; _2 A; M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 ^+ J  M! t& ^6 u% m$ m, mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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* i% N3 \% o' ]- O9 D6 ?政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& _& H+ o( F+ P" e, c5 x
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: a7 ^& g4 Z* F2 f- V/ m* s+ JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! u* H7 c& ~; M5 K

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& ^; Z% ?7 s$ G- h4 v  kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 d% ~$ }- m$ D, M6 [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 |4 _8 o( l# s( o, c0 L- V8 D! |' @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# t4 E/ X9 P+ B, w2 P" z* c( g; C

2 T; p9 G8 p% W' D2 }* `yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......