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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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; U3 D% B2 d9 w, y+ H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' H) j3 L: j1 E* H& vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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' ?/ p7 Z3 S% F- J1 O& c* Iwhy?3 ~# s2 c4 ^/ C4 D% q1 N

$ h7 e( L' k- k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; H8 }/ e9 S( f- |& o4 t
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( c& d- g1 J  K/ c  N

8 u& ~" S8 d1 F3 {' p軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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7 U$ G2 e* p2 P" k政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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3 }" f6 ~. V2 @! ]5 i5 t* B5 J1 t打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- q( t; t: S- {) u" z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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; f( w1 O1 {/ L5 F他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. q$ j! B( k/ [7 B9 ]7 L5 B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......