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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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) p  d% M; r3 Y, O& [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 R) L! }; _; B1 x& m/ U& z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 H8 H& k. N8 l' e6 i6 y9 d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ _  N$ ]% V' f
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  v. ?! j& w- c" N& }
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why?/ I- i# b. k* F2 e

7 ?! Z. l8 P' \; ?0 T9 n" g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 r- s0 D) ?/ ]0 |  \& _see #22 Thus
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, U7 {, H. [( L; p3 ^% |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ J/ n5 v3 Y  E2 ^* G
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 w8 Y. C! q+ v4 b0 nIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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3 f# \; ?6 l! s# b" J# N2 j他比孔明更偉大

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' z$ C3 g. a# @9 I! h" k/ y) {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ [& T5 ?! R* I2 IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- D6 b2 n9 g  G! [8 \- C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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  x- T. T; x8 P他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( R+ K0 _- Q/ p% N: W

* U* i5 F! o# R, H- Oyes, that's the point.

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( i  ]7 ?: |) O5 y0 k0 W& x0 ?陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......