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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% P3 R& [5 H3 C/ B  B# O

5 p  K5 f: [7 [  Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ B, w) Y$ p* u/ GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! w( D; z; E' V; m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: {7 h! n$ c6 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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4 I$ X: W  P8 e) ~6 K+ n1 g6 Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! g  h+ n+ y0 k
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why?
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0 \) X' r! s1 {; z  I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, T( K8 M7 B5 a$ g7 M. U2 T+ [

( j1 A  Y' \* v( |( U$ d5 m* m8 L軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( [7 `$ e+ z/ ~4 u' F! X6 f政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  F) P* e+ c; W1 iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 T3 N* v( d2 @# ]

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; N$ E( c" f. {7 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 S) q& O* v3 l1 T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 }* X$ I9 N& l+ D3 E  Wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......