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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: O! S* }8 U. F7 g

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 T( m$ A* D* T2 j5 h% e1 R

) c0 C/ y% e3 ~6 l' A# w1 ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' o& @6 @8 D4 h2 s$ ?6 O. Q0 V5 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% H' @/ m/ L& g* P, h8 N5 |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, @. D& t0 |; P1 y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 O/ p" p" M' B6 A5 L" N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ g- A+ a; t9 z) y) Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 v7 w1 @6 p( {, q5 \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# z" F" ^( t: G: S* }4 FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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4 q: N4 {7 l; r, f他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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4 f" _& g0 q! O! Y) jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( H: ~$ s* k& L4 e2 t% x( V
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......