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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% m3 ~  U* O4 e$ j

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% y, U  n, b; Pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* \& p3 h# \4 c# N* Y  eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ s2 q# g" p" A
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?1 w+ V2 E0 z, L+ }

2 E& E/ ^3 u4 r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 I' R! F2 P. a# h/ {

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 k! o) v4 f7 z# }" Q/ L智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: S2 W6 A6 b, P( p- p

7 `8 U5 X2 h& D# H1 [2 I8 v7 O軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' P* r. P3 x2 R. o/ U5 a

# S( S$ R' o/ F9 L7 Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 f4 X5 G4 ^$ p; T# A# K  y1 d' p( V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" o; T7 S5 v+ b! ~6 ]; j
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) U1 M. E# o( v  @5 a) MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" {  x% P% {6 x; w# d

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8 {( u  h4 J. q1 F  y! `: lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 s& t* ^; i. r) x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 H6 J+ i6 [. L, }2 Z. I

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  X" M' Z' l- z' k; g3 N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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& F% B( o. D$ oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......