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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 O6 x0 H3 h9 o4 B) ^

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( d% b1 t5 `- G1 J. N3 N- t$ Z; P

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# C3 P& \6 Q) O$ n. e- c
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) U+ U' S6 Q1 K: P+ H

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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 S" u1 Q! P/ F' x" g! g; b/ ^
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ T, K  _! c: p3 s# k
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' q9 }! i" V2 j4 P1 W6 ?1 G' L1 g5 r' e/ D

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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