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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& o8 |1 R+ ?& f$ P! F' i

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" u" o! m, ?6 E- u$ dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 U5 ]& D% V8 q' ~8 l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- L- {/ y) P) f. g! v

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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- T/ b' R$ \* }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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0 _- Q! S+ p; O1 A其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. N, q# m2 }& O% }9 P- I# m4 q" ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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1 z/ t. M! p8 C3 X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ C0 O0 I: Z# J* A! Z" vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 A% E4 M0 L: f9 R  ^6 }

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......