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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ O3 {0 @: W. b9 _

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, X+ R0 J4 s- [. y3 E0 W7 Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. P, ~+ e5 ?5 D, B! k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 Q1 ^3 G$ g% W( R8 ~5 U
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, N- v# M, l- i% E0 z4 x3 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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' [3 J9 ^! U+ a$ Iwhy?
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$ f3 `7 l# L* ?8 N8 N7 c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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/ o  D) K, u# E; T# @  ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 f- T+ N1 p/ W. t* a% ~see #22 Thus
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1 S- ^8 V3 q/ s0 V$ C智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' W) K) J; ]! @/ Q" P# P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ [. P. S0 X, @% W$ C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ x4 m& q9 i% K/ z( vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ {+ ]1 N8 K9 D& y5 a2 y

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 m1 Q) N6 l/ h0 b

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5 N: G8 y% w6 C) d! _  q9 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 d( L3 V4 _5 c3 |0 f5 y( M( h( N/ A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 L7 I. k+ u9 r. A4 ~, uyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......