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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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4 C1 w% i+ y1 |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' F9 B1 z/ z# ~: L5 i; m1 |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 j. p6 N" l. i3 Z. c

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* @9 Y3 [# m0 E& d. ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 Y: S: T; N: J2 ~& a& W

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ R5 V6 c: ]" y' o5 h) I7 i3 i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. P4 s/ q( u( b' ^) `+ P
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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: Q" k/ c1 E: z# v0 f- y5 |* ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) Q) [& i. s: z/ p. k0 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- }$ j' U! O4 w9 y0 I0 o

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9 |+ Y3 o$ M: K9 t" m( X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

! [8 |; K$ q8 Hyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  c6 T- O$ ]$ \

  i& t0 k4 N) f. j( Hyes, that's the point.

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