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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 d& Y9 a- {% v' K

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& i. j0 l2 j1 P3 ~0 D1 M9 Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ r- h& K3 {$ w4 iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* h" F- A! Q; ^  x) ]" U$ LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& h- n% N  O$ o* Y% }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 k8 M' V$ O2 @  P! F- _. A

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& C, z: z) g; H- j2 g8 `智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 b- [2 t9 t0 p$ k+ k& ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- h- v  L5 o/ ^# S9 o
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." F4 d( c, q- ?

4 u( P- y$ H3 b" T( }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 ~5 I9 p0 A( c# ?& `9 Y9 G: p9 y9 n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! N2 d( t4 m9 A) i8 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 g+ h6 w4 B+ W* h! GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 l5 L5 j  G. I- E4 W0 {( U) l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" C$ n5 F8 |! K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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