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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ ~2 |- M: J, Y4 i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 [# i0 o$ D& F2 t1 ]% b/ gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 C& |$ h1 N6 q& [; hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 ~/ V, K7 e! p: gwhy?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 x; `: s* R* R- H: ^1 W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 c/ d# b9 C4 K; e% z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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8 z0 e" p. a, o6 A政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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* ^# S0 J8 E! q+ z2 H  _' c! @4 R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 ~; {  Y, T( {( z& ]6 r4 b' n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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+ m; d% T2 P0 n他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- D( G. W! n/ U: {- e% fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: c6 q% ?" q% r) Q- v! T& P; J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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