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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 L' L  q# A9 D2 m4 ?/ G) r
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' ~/ n# c5 `, ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 t- t. T% h3 {9 w* h( l0 zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., M/ a2 O  \3 ~  D4 h2 t9 k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) T1 G' ^% y: u- t4 d4 f& K/ msee #22 Thus
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* V, E3 Q; z* g- M, x' k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 k/ p: }- U& ^' L0 o/ I* y6 p, Y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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" ~/ n: S2 ~1 F4 V" ^打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 C& K% Z+ Y: K# z( K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; p/ a% ]) ~5 f/ n9 T, J
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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# l7 @4 |; W3 b' \6 _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 p* i# k7 Z3 g8 v

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 T6 @3 b2 d1 }7 z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* v/ P/ a( [" J$ i* E

* x$ M. v) v+ `yes, that's the point.

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