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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& u1 Z- Z. Z, ~0 ~) D3 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  j1 h1 w8 V$ A' g" R( J* I, |# N& z, r
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- Q' n! \$ c! C+ A* s$ IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( Q! ^& w, \( M+ z5 i4 X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ B  ^) {4 p( P1 e! o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 K4 B4 O* W/ w$ i5 c2 t7 S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ F( U. k4 f7 _  W. ?+ T$ z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( r) |; N( l$ Z1 \- h( @

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他比孔明更偉大

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6 H+ W& n& b2 m& k/ P" nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% l' {9 r2 j3 |& y  a! d

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" E' S* F& f: R2 ?

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

# w  P0 a+ \- _0 T' e* o, \yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ m5 }, v7 f6 J7 O/ O/ ~  C; |: G

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......