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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! j. `5 m8 d% ~/ ?$ R

8 ^; w1 q  i4 ~; ^but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 J0 g* E" x$ r' q. ?- i

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( J; N9 u3 U/ S; qwhy?
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5 C4 n) H( i& E7 d7 t/ z- n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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2 h6 G! {( c9 P( u. Z. [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 ~  A: G1 `. r9 k& o( B

4 W9 c. Z, C' F; W8 e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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* ?2 c$ K/ E! g" f  ~5 x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' b( `3 |% \0 B7 P' F7 b0 j

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+ F! `2 l% B( p) i/ q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 Y+ J9 D7 W) f2 h5 L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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- l7 x) q- H& Z) v他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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. U% ]1 n; {! x: d他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ P, M% x" g* W& A  e
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5 r8 x! Z5 {2 F6 O/ y9 b3 l3 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' {( k* b9 M& {, m! M

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......