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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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* ^5 \( B, w; @but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( `6 F: ^9 h0 E0 B- N! z! w
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 N& ]$ H7 U+ m# b) G3 z$ f% }7 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 \3 Z3 o1 G8 r

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why?
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9 Z1 t* r  W7 k: v4 g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- L% H, D7 Q: W1 f0 p$ i  S" l

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 k" X% Q$ l" G% p! T8 B
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ j: P2 n1 ?- N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( v! R' L4 |; f. ]In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# B! J, A3 O) |7 d
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& y2 O. [+ w& i! f* q! F' g% {4 t5 ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( h; \) S  R* d0 M7 l( w
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  q3 v" p, r8 @: V2 r, j; yyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! e# G  W, Z) k: D/ q

+ u+ o: e/ q! m7 O! {' oyes, that's the point.

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