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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- B5 z! H, b' s/ }& `

( Y; {9 W1 p( g' z. M/ H6 A8 ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 E! R6 A' `. q/ d% p  X  aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 v8 \. a; W1 f# G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ q# F: ?8 f- Q- X

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$ ~5 x' ^# Q* B. Q5 k3 ]4 CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ w5 o. G& Z) W% ~0 v

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( l9 k- E: \  t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 Z% X7 }" h( n6 A5 t; i# Qsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: ?0 i. X8 ]# `

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% }' _% V5 w# K- b' W* `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 y: B# d, U4 e$ `- A4 Q2 j, qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ X! r3 G8 E0 c) y9 B
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- r0 o3 i' f5 n. jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( ?1 U' H* f2 v3 d0 y' }
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" O# d* `& F4 [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 u- N) ]6 @; Z& Z1 o2 m+ q# d- G
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  H6 S0 h# ], v/ e0 e  i5 f( O2 p4 P+ @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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( K0 z7 t7 v) ]$ z& X& E, Byes, that's the point.

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