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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ w6 b1 v* p' K7 F* r/ M5 e0 U% H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 w- V3 O+ z  k
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  J$ D' ?6 `" U3 m1 M
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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1 ?6 E6 v0 r# w* H9 }" h政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.( c, Y. x1 s+ g0 J2 J( O

  B) C' _8 F% l9 P& S; M* `打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* Z0 H2 w5 Q. k# s5 {1 K/ v" ]  Y4 y: F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 l3 l" r! B$ p4 J2 H/ M! tIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, P6 I+ f( x" H& u

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) w# w5 e6 q- n) I/ B0 p) J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( g( K  e$ p. H& W( ~( j2 W0 w7 z

1 q2 L4 z$ Q2 U' \yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......