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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ p# C0 }  D$ o; A# z

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( T) H4 |# g2 F8 r
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' ?9 D& b4 z2 F6 O' c4 ~4 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. H1 [/ R' c5 }2 z+ G$ U

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) f. Z2 Q! s1 x9 q2 V* E+ V$ kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# ]% z! A% V% L" n8 v

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 J; ]& U7 y' {; T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* j& t2 t' h5 n& A! ~7 H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ C1 H# _, I2 o% yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. i) F; g/ {, B% B) e, Z

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( z/ P3 i$ Y2 E& K2 ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  k+ G8 H; V& A6 L
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: x4 T, _* d3 |5 _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 p. ~9 `( j( p4 ^4 r$ e

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7 W3 m" o9 O  a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# J# C# @  g& Z/ D+ m$ q& y- S( {
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......