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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- ?* m; [( ^% E( T3 h/ M4 V1 y
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- @' O. t. n5 k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 w  e. \4 U- f6 F
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( l6 U( K; b0 J: Z$ d, o1 N! j$ vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." |  h- E2 }1 a) H7 M
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* ~6 P1 r0 L5 p: ~; B0 u' T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- |; X! K- {7 rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. ^3 I" c! U' t4 Q- U# l9 x' N" b
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+ `* _$ C7 {9 l+ ~* ~5 ?! F. J: qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! `, b3 R/ C  P+ V4 ^7 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' S) Q$ n. [7 |0 J* J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. j1 y+ i* r3 k2 {! o: y
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yes, that's the point.

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