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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ r. V. r# W7 C0 G. Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 k2 o0 s9 a  ]7 a4 x3 r& cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! |4 R. l2 ~3 y# U; V5 r0 H4 |

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see #22 Thus2 ^) \* `: L% r) `1 G& P

  D1 r& X( h- V5 Y# e( T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: K+ O- u2 B. ]' E6 b
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 A2 S& T. P) ^9 h7 p

+ z1 N9 }. {. u, p. g政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 V6 ?0 a, H  T& Q4 `$ ?9 n1 eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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# D6 L5 ^: w! p. \他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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8 }; M5 J' e6 q; J# a% m他比孔明更偉大

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- I' P' y, k3 N. o* G$ bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 Z/ Q/ X3 _5 D5 Y& ]& g+ @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

5 p  n/ U. Z9 I2 B, J. Jyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 s7 l2 n8 s) w1 t& r/ fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......