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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" K4 a  {1 I1 k5 a! j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) b+ A' V1 q+ h8 p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) f3 v; t$ B' s- {

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- v" x- N6 O# o3 ?why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) ]; W- z! x. o8 q6 t- f

6 s. L# J4 W9 _4 p軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., V) n9 }+ C3 L. J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; H2 {' }9 J* y! N5 @: k6 QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ V6 N0 M* W* J6 R: b* M: @7 B

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他比孔明更偉大

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; M& _% l( c+ xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; u. v" k: }$ N* v' O; c

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* @( G; z* q# \

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 p% v' E4 `" D8 j0 H

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......