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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; a6 \6 t+ b. a" {

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* z7 M* a9 n, y6 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 ~7 x6 z9 L: Y; f, o  H* S) D6 q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 r  ^! u8 N- K# ~* `/ hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 c1 E6 S% F$ b# J, R* C) u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 o- H" B8 z$ x9 E7 A+ R" {
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 T' A4 _6 I" L

, _# P: ?3 [; e2 W4 Z2 C% ?3 W打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% c4 b! C+ H6 Y  K" U2 D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; N/ f/ o% N0 x- t. J2 C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ Z# B- f# H; G8 f- n
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 l2 M# D7 U; z3 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  `' I' V/ D8 K# E0 T/ S1 U

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......