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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, c2 d* D) x# m1 M  m
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; i1 X2 w1 T, i$ P8 O- q8 |

% F" ?* h# X  Ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 ]$ U; V5 W  [& r/ P! U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ ^5 I: ~8 |% F- S' A: p
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, p6 O7 S, c2 _( B6 m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' q( m' Y! W& n( B/ q  v' c/ ^5 N2 x5 M( N

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why?
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2 K& V& M$ n3 a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ y/ e: z( f8 H, U4 I' l& m

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' j) s8 }& O, g4 S( a& q% m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! s9 e2 ]( n. s' R) j
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5 Y. Q2 R5 p: k0 w- \8 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 _  y( L* P: _, jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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. o! i) K/ `  P* e陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......