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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. V8 D( C+ S: d" y

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) Y1 y2 O* O3 g8 w2 X+ c
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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9 Y$ H# X) k: e$ L/ @% w1 @' t其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  r3 `1 i# c$ E# P9 g9 r' r

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why?. M3 @  H) a: p5 e

- |: W# m+ ?) O* @  b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 s0 L) ~2 r, ?

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 s0 r3 z  {& [
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 e0 I( {$ u4 N' c$ c, A
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 O& T: a! t  A& U, F5 ~

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 }/ c% X- ~' D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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4 @6 d4 z: j5 ]3 P' C* \. t陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......