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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, M: f1 \  G/ C# F7 x4 U3 }5 e
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$ {; w, w! J8 h' S4 ]智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# h, n: _4 R! I0 U4 @

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% j; A- h. X/ n; yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 h$ p# X5 q' d9 t" Q3 Y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  S5 P3 z9 o: i3 @/ }* m. y; E

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 ~3 O4 L: s2 J$ w$ d) a
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* ?3 n. k- l& m

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8 R7 C1 g$ B  @6 R: ^8 [4 O打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 E; b. }( f: YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( ]. ?, {  v( Q1 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- L1 E6 \8 P9 e' {

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* E: n0 r9 q1 r; ~* f9 ^

' @7 ~0 ~6 P5 F5 N) j, Dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......