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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; m6 d: ~/ a5 y! L3 h/ d+ M- lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# `7 ?6 y, b3 u$ e9 j4 R& {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% S* F- i3 M+ k# K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: j5 H( X' a6 j' x) D
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 ?- S, Q( G, T
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 H  q6 V) ?3 C

5 |& m: f0 ^: O* v) m8 W軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ n6 f6 x) y/ W+ `0 f打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 D) t+ S5 [, M5 k" E; n! uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( L& X: @+ X+ e. S9 O. K
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- I7 I6 _5 H! @6 |6 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 Z/ G; u5 K5 r3 r$ F; Z1 h
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ L, e4 L, Q  _; H
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yes, that's the point.

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