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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 |: P7 W% \  A) d3 ^3 P+ V* r- E

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; c# c" P  m: Y9 G* X$ `
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- s; g3 U9 [( eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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see #22 Thus" h3 S  o/ ?; z9 n/ j# H
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( O/ v' T# H8 o& Z) y

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ J" d, s9 j1 {* A, @. Z7 ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: S6 R4 j/ p8 W8 zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. E& q* K8 v2 p9 F3 AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- ^* B6 _. P( L  j2 s; g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 K& n4 {' ~, x7 _6 ]1 S$ e

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- `& {8 D5 ?4 Z- T) X

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