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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) [% D+ D* ]3 w4 K
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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$ b; S0 z! y" t; rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 R! ^5 q# _- \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 H" i3 @" d; d' k

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% Q# u1 [- U+ D+ R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 P1 n& Y; Y" q
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2 ^7 C( F: A4 A# k. `智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 j3 H# ~, `- s6 B; H. C3 m

' n! ?  S- [+ a1 G# R' V打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" Q4 ^; Y7 i) M; p, wIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 h& G  ?) F) GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 a8 V9 t% ~5 o% X2 X" W
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ w$ y8 Z* Y0 f7 I

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. u$ Z6 W+ Y1 `7 s  o2 y# }; M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, ^1 ]% U7 P* B, A$ u: `( d& G
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......