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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" h- L- a$ |* t: u( ?6 C- W" Zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ X8 l4 t+ t( o5 |" ]) XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ [8 F6 ]/ l% rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% ~- P( K' {# v. F/ b0 |+ s1 N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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- K3 b" U4 r0 r- ^$ n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% B  G( X7 S- z% Z; `. {8 R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 l4 v" O; z8 Z4 Z5 S; D' T他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 `+ [" Z. a9 L: V) S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% ^  V6 s& r5 ~2 m7 A

' {, B) U6 r$ b8 oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......