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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 c" G4 Q% _3 s: c0 f* j2 N0 F
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 w6 u( U' ^8 G5 l+ b/ fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ l( W5 @" T/ [8 q1 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ W6 H4 e& Y2 s
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why?6 ~; p/ R$ ~: {3 d$ w8 A' p4 u2 b9 M# F

% E! _+ n: x; {3 t, X; k' l  }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 q' u" @% G6 @( t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 D" l+ \% _; j. ?+ k  R
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; Q' w, Q. O* _* c" r1 R% X

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& v5 [0 Q3 `$ H; G& ^. Y+ L& a9 B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. F- y: `6 S3 A$ Y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  b0 W; |! j; p- f

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: s9 m( p# \9 Q( bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) z; |3 Q3 {: aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 E- z  y9 f4 F$ v7 [' C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' u% H7 c! H. w
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yes, that's the point.

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$ K# L- y, f1 i1 E# y陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......