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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  Y5 s6 D- Y' G; d/ x, {0 _but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 O% [4 a9 K7 v: w( T# _+ y6 F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ W/ K; v2 G5 k
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 u  l' v) B; r1 v; {$ m( e, P

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># l5 F: Q) i+ Z) [3 n

, c6 x4 r+ D7 r7 Q4 L$ o- S: b1 g  e( x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 T& E" A3 b$ m0 h4 c& j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 b5 v$ y2 u0 z% X, AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. B9 z( f/ o: E

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, p% S3 f; f# b( e7 V) {4 w0 ?& R
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- o' `3 q5 l+ s. m. ?5 CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  c4 C! s: }$ V, O, y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* a  K! I' _1 f: \" E: |% s: Q' O

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