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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" i; q2 Y% D( y+ v; K  a

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 m) G4 t* g4 U3 R( jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- Q' _8 _( N, X. P$ }
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why?
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" t, \0 y" s; B) C1 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 q& A- |/ z9 z$ ^! ^; M( _# E# T

. h9 P8 V3 R7 T: _; c+ \0 o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 `+ _, T2 p; M& V; F( b5 Q  \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 A, x7 u- k0 {  ]& N

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& F$ p5 R" _# Y" u9 b

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ ^4 M5 g$ w9 b: _  N) U% E8 gyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 ?2 C: x4 J* K
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yes, that's the point.

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