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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( b. `* B7 a. y; |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 p8 K  D2 Y+ R( P" q9 \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) l  e& ?- m5 v! r
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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. O5 K$ U& s: ?$ h/ v/ j! i0 }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 Q4 o: s+ D: ^3 x2 J/ T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 W3 [; ^! T7 L0 T# `% u- L2 R
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 i& s; O5 m- P7 X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 W+ Y  v' |* ]8 [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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( \5 y, C7 c" F* L! x' PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ G" V2 S1 I( }: n- g8 i- j

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' X6 n1 {; y$ Y' z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ j! Z  Q) m2 M; h& N% w  w# i
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......