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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, Y% S& g$ Y+ y1 q& j/ D( ]0 Hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ f" Q9 g! z2 X* Y; N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! a: C/ I* u" ]3 d# b  R5 ]

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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9 L& O; u( H5 c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 Q* v0 j# s/ B
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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' [* I! l3 s: j* P% f$ [( y+ [" |5 c7 `打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 A! n& E. e0 J6 W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 e8 l/ B+ q+ x* G" J2 X7 Z5 UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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0 U8 n4 y0 p, i' f) ?他比孔明更偉大

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/ s: }- n0 j5 {7 ?) VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 V* x8 U7 c; l/ P5 N# C) A% c
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 A) }1 i- h" H& |8 n' v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 H( b- K8 L+ e3 T2 `, m+ c

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ j% w2 C5 _& R) _/ W0 R% U/ w6 ~
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yes, that's the point.

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