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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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2 O: X( P: `  ^( {8 V5 S6 z; t. }/ ?智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! E& g  @& e+ p% ~- A% E& S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 V# v1 i. ~2 E2 J- ~) FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 H3 I# D5 G- A3 I; a

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  @. w* U# a; cwhy?. U  x' T+ |, s

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?7 w1 V5 g+ y- V8 k, R9 Q

1 @6 A8 n3 S- |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 y: C( W; ]( K3 R1 [! jsee #22 Thus  V0 ~& W  b: h% ~6 R, `7 R6 L8 G

. C* f0 e5 b9 B, X# L智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% {" R5 P6 I  }/ E
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  L8 U5 Y* s5 e% f* oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% C7 o8 w& g2 ~/ ]$ i: J& g他比孔明更偉大

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/ y  p* t( D8 ~; M' ?, B* ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 J5 R0 U% |1 L* A) m
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8 ^, a/ O3 P( ^9 DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 n7 ~+ l) y! X: [3 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 L0 L" y+ u1 k! e# u0 _. S6 Oyes, that's the point.

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3 q% l9 L, d8 k) }8 S% r! }陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......