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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 ^4 G! u& g2 X  _% n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# e. ~7 G/ f% [5 E/ f) d: I6 u

7 ]# p* B/ V% H" ^8 Ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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- l8 N+ e. V5 S5 R1 C& S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 \4 Y2 U6 X# P- z' F: V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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, V: j+ P" a( ]" j! f: @( P3 L軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% T2 R2 u' e  r$ b2 t1 ~8 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; f+ a+ z: a3 t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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; Z7 @2 H5 z( \0 }他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  y  U+ V3 G1 j/ f  p3 R8 |: j

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" l: v" U/ [; w" eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ E6 u1 J2 x$ l( R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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- `7 o: N  x4 T% }& F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, [- ?$ H6 T0 z2 x2 r7 x& f" e
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yes, that's the point.

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