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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 x4 S2 {/ k( r( a" t

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

# p8 v1 O$ d0 K3 Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; s8 m, e9 K3 W, r4 Z! k2 i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  [" f- ~" b/ U1 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 M7 y7 s- ?4 ]2 A2 ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 ]+ G( t) x3 @0 q! [* ?

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/ P: K9 K# z8 ?& P& U) z* ^see #22 Thus
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' }7 {2 k1 c+ S8 X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 k$ P) L; ^' ]+ b5 v6 T$ w

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; }! G9 Q( G7 ~. X7 j$ a" {; Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' K. b$ Q" Q" W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 N$ _" `+ N# {9 N+ ]) ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" K0 L8 P! A+ a: x; c6 P他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......