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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* Y# w7 s" h) }0 z+ p
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 F0 ^8 n2 F" {, ^% j0 S) `% w0 j' XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( A7 \! h6 @% u

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' W5 V* x4 U  W# u2 \7 J2 iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& O# W2 p$ R- q# ~5 \, c1 E: Q

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# O4 E5 P- l, c1 `* J" v打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- g) V% I- x$ I; y# H, w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ V! f& U: q0 \0 t# K$ b; M0 H: ]
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* ?+ ]: }8 V/ W+ T& B6 |( J

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 k2 |, T! z+ {4 P$ a8 i

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0 `4 [. U, X, a* kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& K8 Z8 ~' ~: m
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8 k* U: u, m; G# I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......