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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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( {5 R/ x1 R; u: l; v+ X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# `: I. O" h8 `0 G# ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 F7 E4 S1 g; O) m- \* b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus* k1 ~4 O9 }; P; U: [

  s; i8 P- `  p% Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: p3 J  d+ o/ h, W  W
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ l6 z# E) L: K9 \& i
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 y: E2 m+ j" L4 z, a

8 ~2 ?; l" p4 M' W; U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* s. m" @4 q/ @" X3 sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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- i8 L9 w( y0 e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  f- [+ r' _5 M5 t  b, `

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0 o% U5 R6 u* B, B% {9 Y6 KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, C" Z/ I% p" g3 n; d1 D0 kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 T6 H' K9 a9 d5 N) e- H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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' M8 i, x9 z# _陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......