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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 D; F" G2 O7 r$ E' `/ k3 J/ }

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 W3 X2 Z5 }2 Z& @! K( }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! U; P; B' A  R; N, E6 y; B* c6 {( W! d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 x& H7 o1 g0 k" Z- J, J( ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 ]. h* l* Q3 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- L8 o* p  G* ]4 D- N

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 t# l1 l& P* \3 i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 R) a8 s9 j  ~/ U: _& Q他比孔明更偉大

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# D5 j4 M. o+ g5 s0 p; BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* {: M6 v# T  Y6 H- J! L
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( J' H; m6 h; L3 f4 ]" G" c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% \- Z/ @1 _! z4 i) E# \7 T

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