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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- t, y$ w$ \; n0 s- G

4 @: p' W5 y1 Z. B% {' b2 mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 h0 X  w2 G9 t& X/ `3 n
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 i/ G* y0 v7 v8 b- j% Z

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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5 {2 C( g/ {2 A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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2 E" I+ M' Z/ i5 h! W2 f軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( S) I. N  j% |6 j% m: [$ k* ^* V' z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. k1 n9 Y5 s2 s7 NIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) `" Q. W' L, ^" V0 G( L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 O7 p* w/ q( Y% |

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......