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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' g& _* K  \9 O1 W) t2 s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& x6 y3 |& b6 i+ \- _0 K" i) wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ d7 \. c" i4 p' ^2 J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. j0 a5 }+ T: Q* f+ I

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: N5 w' c9 {4 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ R! v1 B2 ^, E7 h2 j1 z3 Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; G% t: h* Q9 w" bIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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0 d0 ?% Q2 H; N, e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- ~) y  h1 t, n- j/ ]/ w" p: M
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他比孔明更偉大

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: L* K+ D$ [# _( AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) Y# R. r! Z# i# v) m8 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  h4 e8 i) z% p8 \6 E* U, `6 U
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% e2 U( \$ M' Z% M) \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" I- P! V& r7 d/ w( g) Q  B

9 h9 o5 g0 b: z; Wyes, that's the point.

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