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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 L1 q; }( y2 l6 k, hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; K2 b- B  w2 ^9 R3 \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ O! d4 t, z; }7 _, q% r' E

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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' D: L  e) Y, J8 L' a( F4 i# x2 Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* M( A0 P! n1 m. E" D! ?/ Isee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 L0 Y  n+ N5 w1 [6 G. c) i2 X; s

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# H8 q- {$ z" y  m
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 g1 E1 M( z4 r: }4 B3 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 d3 U' ?) x" q4 `

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: A9 j, n5 g# u" v4 D0 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* ~* _# `, H3 a  k% i- [
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8 t+ Q* x) f5 Y' n$ E" @, N! vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 n* `: l2 v' K0 z. ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 C( C$ O( R4 ?5 |6 F

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# m' `8 f5 X) `3 j8 W$ g* z  C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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