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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 l* \) i% L1 w/ I4 \  a

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 v, x7 b% ?( E  A) ~

, b) Y( ?4 u* Z" Y2 l' Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: U3 Y) ~& v$ y6 r% T: X/ _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ c+ R" C: o6 P  o" CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( w( k% V+ g- S  J  N2 ^

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7 p4 \) u) ]/ m, I* A) z: {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" P# U3 _+ M1 M軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., }1 o6 F( q, k' n
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) P4 i/ t2 k1 H4 B- X& s6 jIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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2 ]9 |$ y+ x& s% B8 XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* _/ m9 ?8 \: I( K0 h$ k9 h1 f; O
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* X. q6 v3 m- H$ i: X$ x0 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% [3 t& j  y- g
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......