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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" U! ~1 n2 s# Z$ O5 S2 p
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- T' t2 ~- Z- H$ c$ Z8 l! \; z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 N7 I: t  e+ c$ lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  N# N3 |" @/ d5 k8 L

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 j3 ]3 G" T% v7 I9 }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 z6 U! h1 h) k4 U3 W  R6 F

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: {& ~# x% k  Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 f; Z( W$ e( W4 k! v/ _. z  M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 q5 c" t0 Z% c* _0 b& ]& OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 N1 z. ]9 d( Q! _! r

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- w3 r. C4 x* [- F5 r, t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ P+ D' Q. E( R+ R9 ^; h
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......