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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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8 E! F( e, |+ v9 |5 {( F3 {% bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ U  `  U  C* d' H1 u4 ]+ ~5 l) sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 ^& r  r2 L! `: t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ k# \( W+ v9 t/ g: E; hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& [, R$ ^  r1 x5 R( y) X6 H

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ W; q8 ~% v/ L& d7 c/ Z* Lsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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& ^6 ^% w% V0 Q+ t- d% g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& q! a* o" d. _7 y3 zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 V4 ^8 ^* J6 ?

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他比孔明更偉大

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- j! F  z- q* cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. o, s( w9 G0 s% T. D7 U3 y

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; B! D' H+ Z0 N6 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ }9 b% j* j3 F4 e# L, V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 u9 Y6 L( l0 M; }' z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 x; {4 `  F0 P/ B4 l

* |! v8 R$ R" s1 o& Xyes, that's the point.

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