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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 x3 S. }! N$ y. V4 w0 F8 j/ |  \

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  U3 O2 a2 S& \% ?" O. v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* Y+ ~5 m3 U4 ^4 A$ e; |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 w' r8 t! i( v0 [6 Q' D! T

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3 r0 ~+ \# g8 b" V8 H% `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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- {' X/ E$ |- s" y, h7 K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" {8 z" u* C5 V+ p. H& S/ G3 g. N
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 B. |$ E% O9 Y; r1 A2 z2 l- V) I

0 e7 b3 D; j3 g9 a4 d3 D; v1 U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' ]9 O1 |2 U6 [3 R6 c5 BIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- g. }  y  L6 y( M

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 W9 r' D* n6 c1 A( S' cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

) t- n4 v+ @* ]' U( pyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 d9 q0 J1 P+ d& l& w( i& Q
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yes, that's the point.

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