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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, o' `8 y- t3 u

1 q* p" m' `) p( I+ abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ r1 w0 p. X; _5 }

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& G/ F+ L3 i$ D) H  vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 Z1 u7 t5 [1 s9 o$ F
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# n2 Z1 h0 {/ ]3 s9 m

) u6 y% ~& @0 q1 c4 t打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 }3 Z7 m3 Z( |5 J3 q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: N4 l+ \: K& VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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3 w6 \# [4 m4 p. u) ^' D6 ?- w" LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) b2 x2 c) r* A3 w! R. K3 [
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( z% u3 p& J( b& s& H! q+ o, F7 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 i/ T+ p& f( q& a) O1 k  G- D5 ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 U; F5 j3 j( y! a% k$ S2 J: _/ G, w6 {
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, w* x6 [- H; @5 a. K0 @2 p

* W% \9 o5 {8 U0 iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......