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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& X; r9 q( K  q' b, Q1 N
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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' u  h2 P; B+ R! h' p" P2 e; ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* r, q) O9 a- f0 `  k  p- e
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4 \$ b: c- |9 i) C1 Fsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 J! ~  `2 Q+ V: J/ `/ I

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 M4 t" @' D7 e; w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- r1 y% e) e" M0 @/ ~
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' B4 p8 @/ {% g, k8 {
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  ~6 ~7 D6 B# v: {
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& ?4 P4 @$ b+ i& [5 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" q1 H- n2 b4 }( o/ k
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......