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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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' v+ t. J- I, a. t" A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 {+ n5 ]& r. Y6 c
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 h7 H9 v1 H# L/ O/ fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 E" p2 a5 @* m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 Z9 i: m1 s0 a+ B政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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, d* c2 W3 g! f' E. A7 s0 X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 B$ Q& Y6 `: z  @
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- i0 I& r& u. U) e1 m/ z) q' qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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( p/ q. `7 Z" P2 C" J) ], m" R* qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! g$ [7 l$ x, Q# E6 R
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8 j0 z3 A. [6 j# G4 N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 ]: V! Y- p4 [0 e% W2 i9 J

4 w  J8 h" s# F" kyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......