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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 s+ J  _. a& y9 x% u9 Z/ r4 H/ O

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 u8 D5 K; y+ A$ YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! V* o" R# V! L" H, {. D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 a, @: u" c# F6 j7 J. a( h& w; l9 R
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ _5 g/ \, }+ Z6 r5 P, |
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* X) s. X' P* T7 ]- `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ H; a7 G) }. U2 A" d# W6 X- m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 u* W3 S$ w0 w- G$ _% X( d5 k
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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$ _' _" [9 B( E6 z% I政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 w7 t% l* ?& `8 ]

8 Q# J4 S8 ?; y& M- K& w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% o* O, R: t3 J2 }% p4 u, `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ M) w  }! \# m5 _; F

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ B: h7 G8 ~9 p  X1 e9 {! L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......