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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* Q, u- {0 M- Z6 l: d  s) J, S

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- Z9 J: W; @1 _* c+ y5 A% h1 E3 g& J

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 S1 Z# O# I- o3 k) V6 m

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7 j3 Q8 O/ i/ P8 a; D5 H; t: s0 t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& w1 u7 a+ h/ J4 \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 d6 w9 m" U9 n2 xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  _1 N! `6 Z( ^/ f; l2 `5 ?; m: bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 h% l/ x! }+ h
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1 e9 l( ~& U& HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  [9 m. _4 ]- b! v* ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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