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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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+ a$ Y# I0 V* b6 p: E: Xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. r* x3 W: [5 A$ _- u1 @
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 j0 T( V& B+ L" r! y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 |6 @6 i  T: [4 X8 l2 ?
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see #22 Thus1 w7 g7 R7 y3 V. s

  p8 N( w& h9 @& Z6 B- T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ s% i7 V. V0 n3 f7 F- F軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 _- J2 a  S3 ^- i) N+ U

8 P5 w5 K- v/ W" @4 g* B' i0 k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 G! F6 |; d+ U0 y# J. a+ V7 }3 DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 ~, _4 R. b$ a

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. k* k1 J# h1 x: c, R0 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 g' n: Q: H. z( o0 X2 n$ K0 O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ p+ ^+ }9 d3 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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