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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 U3 E* t7 n- n' @5 q' v
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. }" `$ g: `8 T+ x# H( T
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: T% o$ q( R( u. H. G2 a& _: @" @

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ N  Y$ t: z( G; P' U* ]

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 X6 y6 q  @- R' q5 d" D# p6 A! X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 h  Z- E0 h3 }9 M4 t

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 m- u! f" }9 }( v: n4 n- x* S

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) [0 l* z( G. l% B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" }! b2 d1 o4 K- R& o  p6 q
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yes, that's the point.

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