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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% O# X1 [) C6 C- \  \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 M1 C, g9 a% X' Y( M: J! @+ ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" {# A8 V7 e% j5 R, m0 \

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  e# }0 \5 \) z- ^2 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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, R+ y$ y7 c" f2 [0 I" d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- R( Y* v- q1 p9 Z; g/ K( K9 i6 k

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6 {: B4 s, Q+ P4 f  }) ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' u6 g) A7 X3 G( ~. Y& H
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' \9 v4 w6 p8 @8 D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ V& `1 P) ^0 d" V/ `5 d, t/ R5 bIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% C$ i2 c  ]+ U: a' k

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2 i2 h$ e3 T: n$ T* D# E. CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  S% F( A7 C  hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 p" ?% A; e) O$ N( D5 O& }9 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 y. f7 u2 ^) f0 u

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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