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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- f3 r$ Z  A- m; W7 i' q7 R
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 N+ l1 Z4 t$ Q# a3 |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& |5 {5 d' s, V$ ]$ j; A2 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ Z& i5 t' P/ ?- X

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3 ~3 e8 C2 c7 A/ h4 i( F: x! O; aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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) I; W# F! Q- Z' k+ r; m* x4 q5 e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 _( a0 a9 Q9 X! E1 G( S3 Z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 F' H6 N/ b- s' |% \+ w
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 E) ~! ]7 x4 c8 F* W- a/ `. h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  |2 S2 S1 ^8 A* _他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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2 E! P. Y4 |+ [( ?5 g5 L+ YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" U( T: v7 |' `) N1 |1 z  P他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! u' H- ~! R/ v. G
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......