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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& ~0 n* @4 @1 f0 x! g3 _3 I4 `; [2 A

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  U7 P  O; l! K+ u& L* U
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& v5 P% s$ y0 W; o
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 R2 r, n; }: n$ E% }3 i2 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 y! Q  ]4 ]3 ]軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ ~8 z( ?+ n0 z! M- ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 F- a% X! x3 U* T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 Q$ U* ?/ E6 N6 x" V& N/ oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' _' {- t3 S, m. @+ M8 K

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 `' U- N5 E; ^* G+ ]

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: o4 s7 {1 R, [( D' c- Y5 M9 U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......