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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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/ v1 `# @8 x- C. e( ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 i* J5 z$ ]1 Q. k: h- I' ewhy?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( u9 r0 D" F3 ]. R! n

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 w$ I1 A% k% [  C& F9 R% Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ a2 E( W; H) Z, f' ~) W) p
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# [8 M# S/ A8 J5 \  w
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! {0 T( f! q6 K0 kIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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" z1 t, Q6 `2 A- M2 a他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 ~' B8 _8 a# \" t7 H" bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; |  ?3 \* h; Q, _" k- H+ R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! m. R; n# P* `; {0 \1 h
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" H6 Q5 ]8 T2 ?  G( k2 b" c) B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 \! Y0 Q4 F' Xyes, that's the point.

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