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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  i$ _. Z3 ?- n: p) J/ P9 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 Y0 K* V( P1 V# N, U7 M! s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! j8 B4 D+ |; V; L* c4 O; c: {
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) Y1 A6 Z" v$ t" _: {0 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) {/ \$ A7 O* H- z8 j( Z8 D
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5 r7 R2 o& ^3 `6 f9 vwhy?
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ K6 h/ L" a/ v6 v0 I0 \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ S3 z3 k/ R; g( X1 tIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 P, s  v6 s. d

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( A1 V/ [8 b6 s9 cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 @. N" {4 F* b) iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 V/ ?5 Q, h" {: y# @- ]* ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: v6 H# h* D6 V2 uyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! s: Q# q4 R5 D: ]  v. L
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yes, that's the point.

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