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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 h* G4 s# w- i) I0 ^, @1 E- A8 Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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- N, `) S9 M; S! ?/ }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( x8 n" c6 C4 d4 z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, o2 y9 ^& `& s+ C
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! P" E0 ]0 C2 B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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3 }6 X! d# [' \. `& ?) j/ @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 u# |* E/ s' l7 ]6 M9 L1 w0 m: v軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- n1 O$ E) r5 c* n

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" r. m( P7 F/ m9 ~In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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( K8 _: f! b, T8 n6 A# c他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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/ e( s' G4 b  b# ^' R他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  v4 b5 V' o! P! J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 ~, }5 [) {) Y3 r1 e

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0 o$ _- @+ ~3 p& U/ ?  w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  {: ]1 U% m6 K  y  Y1 y
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......