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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, H9 H( b% C/ n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 ^5 C3 Q6 v$ d1 M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ U! k3 y0 g6 P. i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 z! {# e* P: z2 U) JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 w1 K- G0 y, A3 |4 M7 c9 Q

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, S) X# u) k# g6 k

  D/ X5 H9 f' a軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.( |  @8 _8 f0 r: L5 U

) B" L4 i7 [( z% g- g' @- O打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 ^' P; V" D, v1 a! I4 v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 Q' L/ B, X# u3 e6 o4 f5 y/ YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" l; ]8 j4 n, h( J2 `

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% W* X$ H% g" V/ }7 @0 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! u. ]* s2 D! |+ E' `4 w
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; ?* g- f0 g/ T% v: J: P$ a! YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 o5 Q: O5 B) v% q7 o, C

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- F( T" g0 ?& f5 q9 T; T
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yes, that's the point.

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; T7 x$ P+ _' D0 _  m陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......