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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 ^6 z0 G  W/ l' B. w

; `4 z+ @, d3 N2 ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" [/ z% k; }6 q3 n2 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& S4 I# u! W4 U' ]9 f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ S- `% {6 t  P7 M9 s! _
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+ K9 Z+ |  i& Q9 {' c! M3 t- RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 _( d) K" x) o7 g
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: l1 Z, X3 k& y

- I6 v  @8 W% R. u打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. S; ^/ z5 ~. g8 p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 ?+ s. H4 S( @! _2 O  ^* ~/ _
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% H" R1 R2 O. G7 d- P
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, k7 s" B5 ]8 ~' E0 R) v$ v他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! L; p) y8 n' B
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- {, G  [/ |7 c5 U% z& R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# i. h0 |6 {, x9 o- `

' o2 g$ Y2 b' y7 ^/ l: ayes, that's the point.

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; R6 u9 e) y' H; G& I( M8 g陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......