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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* h2 _, v; a, |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." u3 R8 f2 @2 u0 n( S$ @& y# p% |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, x7 B) `! N- e- k& V2 P: H
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ ^4 W) n6 K1 h0 m1 C1 _

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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0 |. E( s& G, @$ ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 N+ m# V" ~. u7 n3 ^0 n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& e8 P7 d0 X4 B- R- b' a

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ g8 u5 G+ \' N: oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 ^, o% y9 c, Z- S+ X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ U3 ~7 Z) @# r1 s* M( b

/ e7 t  v+ S0 M4 y! _, d4 I6 iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......