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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 Y+ L9 ?% O3 K* J' p, I- Q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: h- a4 f" F$ q: ^" G; p% f) E$ ]; V
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 p& B6 S! B3 J* p% `+ h, q- fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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3 m3 x1 h# s4 z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& D4 ?1 P  E8 L& q$ K% ^# e
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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2 b) J- Z; M+ D& J. ^打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" U0 B- Q* V/ W, L5 z7 |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 \" h/ ~7 t: m' D0 i  ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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