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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 m2 v1 [2 x) ?/ o. l0 ^5 j

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  K0 J4 W' t& N* A

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ m9 m, r$ w; X3 ^
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 B2 o6 t  n) Q3 x
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ J0 J" y1 C( g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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8 ~( U' J" E+ H其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  R; N- Y5 t4 A; Y# l# b8 Q4 t政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; T5 ^; h1 i# C+ s- s* a0 H8 j  p2 u
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' u/ @5 i+ ], B" P0 s) r: r# e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ X7 s4 q  H0 ]) ^1 SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" T3 z* L* V. I- a

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他比孔明更偉大

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5 _  E6 w( Q3 x" r- m: _; R7 KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& p) P4 q0 V3 c- k: x* u% x7 j5 f

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' s* h0 u/ H4 V9 S8 A5 ~& e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 K7 v, X  W/ M' Tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......