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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 Q8 @3 v' M* f

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 O, f" a( ^% Y1 [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ f3 |* p8 X/ P1 E4 K6 f
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) ]+ C$ ^2 X1 u6 e2 ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 h& E* O4 [# D0 c/ c2 U  A6 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& B5 W; A# o9 m# M2 `2 A1 t" Esee #22 Thus6 U8 g4 W9 ^6 o' }6 o% }

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- I% r: a) E: A& r( D/ x3 I) c軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 u# ~* v5 Q# {+ }1 h% ?. c
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 u) o" A0 w# r, a
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 C8 @! L  J$ h% `% gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 W# b3 Y) N2 R4 A) w' b- }  x# LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; K0 n* D' z7 S
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 U1 u4 b8 u" K& k2 y) M% Y
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......