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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# _! l, [* C* s: m% p9 o/ S

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 b8 ]9 \; W, ^9 k3 q6 ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 M; A# x  M7 `8 a: g0 ?8 j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 ~- k, ?- [4 b- `: O4 \; K9 B

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why?9 c7 b5 `+ `' y, }9 r) ]

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see #22 Thus
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# Q3 _" \$ U1 x: Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 p6 k. Q$ M; {, P8 n+ Y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 \9 Z. z4 a' B0 C
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 r/ }! D# i8 b1 {+ v. |' e

- p& l/ _" c' h2 n" Q3 L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., h, q* K) s+ X5 ~. j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& s7 p- g, g6 ZIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 P: p% T' }# Z1 J+ O9 C6 ]; F+ f

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 p" ^( ^+ [% M7 s+ ^  k: L) ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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