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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( R! t, F6 z6 M3 y, IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." t. ^, t% G3 L) G) o+ o6 m2 H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, @* t2 x1 y3 ~. H0 C: R2 N) h
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: {$ n& H3 O( N4 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! t  \) L1 l. X5 h4 c, y6 `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ t+ s9 Y5 m5 O  A, B- K( _

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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0 Y2 P# x+ W. o6 z# k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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1 k. i4 A6 |9 m, h6 L+ m  Q# l軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" o$ _+ e# N" ~( ~" j3 V4 S9 a( q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 n2 p" p8 V1 f! p2 [
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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( V5 b1 G+ p: E$ F7 k5 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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0 \* B& p0 q+ ?$ A( Z9 [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# n; a- z  j% N6 Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" w1 N* k' k1 v3 O- r

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

" q# Q* H. r/ a4 C# l8 wyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) S$ n4 a. k2 Y, [

( ?! w( H9 e- }7 J, |# fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......