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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% f; M7 M4 c& G* [5 ]2 k& e+ N- o; Y( _

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% X. b# U; }$ a* a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! {' Q; R! a$ v; N. |' [& b. S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- B( ]) w  k) Q, T7 o  p1 H0 e7 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 U. j2 D1 ~. Y. r2 M: SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& u  c$ j. p. K* H* {
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 w4 l" d1 h- T8 b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# s' v2 z( C& n' y) k' A7 L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- R: w1 H% f- F& d% V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 R/ P+ W( H0 U. d0 |7 c+ [

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, _4 g: C% p, Z! ~; F7 o% w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......