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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 K( T; n6 l4 j2 L" X% L

. [" ?$ Y* }9 ]5 H- k9 ^! ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! O1 I3 m; c. k. P6 \3 }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& S) A- k2 g1 F8 f1 b7 p- V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& A% L% C: i" _1 C* ^/ sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( T$ {9 R; f- Q. @7 ^8 B0 F0 ~$ N
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% \) m: P1 ]. E7 C, M/ f, G' V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. C1 P% x& I% C( V" t2 ]8 |5 B: E
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! Z- n+ p1 s6 d+ V, c- k( k/ ~0 E
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: d0 z% A& k: b' O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% q; v# |$ E: m/ O' k7 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ W" e& ?! u% m. _, W/ j& L* P
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2 @( a6 `( v; z+ sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 R6 G- N% G7 d/ s9 e: T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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1 {* ^0 ?3 [* w3 iyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......