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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. ?0 j9 P! k) M: z* a
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) x6 n4 E0 S: y0 R+ }( KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& {" P3 h+ c+ Q% L4 n  e; V

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" v# D4 k# j" a" s" \

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why?
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  p" F7 F* H! `7 L
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 I0 ?1 e+ N& v# I- c

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1 Z$ I5 y# A5 T" q) d! v/ q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 f: q4 y+ I, e& E+ |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ H( h0 ?+ m7 q! c1 U" y  h

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 M9 _2 D  c2 B7 C, c

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0 Y1 I6 |. l2 J* a8 M' nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 H: p- o  M% j# ~# Z$ O

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( M$ h5 ~& ^7 }$ j+ e) D
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yes, that's the point.

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