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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  J- h1 f' ^. obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 }  h- E1 G9 a4 P  I4 Pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 s# X; J  T* }4 h+ dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) R% ^8 j5 A/ x" X! s7 J& u7 v

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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* H2 d" }( h1 C1 V7 L7 O: g  X+ d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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8 x- E( D5 Y( M' u$ twhy?
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0 w: e% U8 S. `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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! F8 h( j% t. }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 s/ E* [7 |1 _( Y  J

0 q) k# D6 J  b) v/ b, n0 w5 W軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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5 K- W* G3 U  N& ]) s# o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 K7 I6 c# A" G- c; y5 a& z- B& yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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4 @# e+ C: q$ b1 xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 @/ I: O( X3 t/ j+ B9 [/ S  k5 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' Z" R4 W5 v- w: p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......