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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, g- X4 x0 M/ F" YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 _+ W7 K$ j* A" s% oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 k6 f* ?7 E, K1 w! y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* `+ {+ k4 m- n' Q# O7 z- p
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why?
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1 W3 J, d+ A: H) |3 L! Wsee #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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; M" i+ h0 z  w8 C% m; d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 @! C' S3 b% S/ R8 c6 I
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 G! y1 s. J$ D; M' ?8 U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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) o) L2 p7 B7 u$ x( ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 [: s  U6 C4 o) ^5 b6 b3 F4 QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. D& Q/ D: l  B3 `
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 `7 w, p3 ?+ W" t1 g( V1 U5 h

1 W/ Q/ D, S, f7 k7 a4 W6 L5 Yyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......