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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ X  Y1 M# T5 `7 M# _) ~

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* [+ T! M, ~7 o! E2 Y; b1 `5 X1 U

# _/ p+ x( O) D) _but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 h. o: R( z) ]# J  H. yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& n8 o2 [* K* v+ K# a
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, r2 S1 s; r5 Z- S: k
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/ ]4 K2 k( P9 LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 {: G! ?+ s" h" [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 q, M; F! S* Z" G  Y

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why?
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see #22 Thus
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: b; a3 O, I$ L: Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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; {1 ]/ I% Y& v) o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 `6 K- A) b2 K+ x
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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9 V1 j$ v1 y. A- ^7 T打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 n0 [; S( Z+ V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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+ W( O, t, H. x* U6 ~8 ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  U' u% e7 Q' S2 m/ t

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" ~8 m9 p! {( n& w0 J; |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 E! l+ d6 l6 M$ N
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......