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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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8 L, y/ \1 d) m( p8 ]9 j4 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 n5 o% G  m8 d  ]% N

4 e5 \. ]1 b. `% x+ C5 O1 |5 sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. Z' R( C1 a8 I  D# ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; `. |& g' b* c- i- t

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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/ r6 }, J6 L! s8 m+ h1 O% r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 b2 o( r+ `+ V! `3 O* \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 n7 V! R2 y. I$ D

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: U3 O' F/ D$ z5 |% t& l' e( K; l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 R9 Z6 q1 N9 W1 Y% y$ @+ n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 k( K$ Z! S$ z

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他比孔明更偉大

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4 z2 H& G2 g7 Q3 OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; G$ o- R) q  ~1 ]

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4 ]# O) U( s, t5 E4 y, t* qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 ~6 e) I8 P3 A9 ^" n4 M$ V
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4 Q, y* j2 e; W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: u3 i, {. R" u/ z+ byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ [4 ^3 Q# S, Z

6 f: {# {( J$ P; C! s) Pyes, that's the point.

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3 z# _( B" ?; K, h4 o陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......