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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  p. S! g; x# O5 Z# Y. Z1 l8 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' {; P# _. r3 I' `/ W. P
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 ?4 o( ]5 P  n2 D# lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. ]1 @6 {6 ]" K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; P6 k# h2 P2 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! j3 T/ l( y3 n1 R, i5 a1 ~3 h0 M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' T+ {0 \, e/ v. ?

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 w% c8 T* K, O0 i$ a+ g; r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! D6 y1 U  G4 y/ K
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! p/ B. N; S; L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 l$ Y2 z7 |2 A) D5 y- o- p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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! y5 l  B1 S& ]9 ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# |& t& x' r, a8 u* F
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他比孔明更偉大

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, F) ?" P, Q- m/ NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 H; C) S+ m. B; D( g! N) x/ `3 L4 }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; s7 J; _: l' ~# q  N. t

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1 s5 H4 C0 p" d! v4 K- F% a% }# I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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