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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 |# I7 y, O( g! [: G, v8 k) i- U
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& _+ l- O  l1 l" W4 |- J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, i" v: T7 o" Q& G0 ]
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- A: u# I9 o& l& F
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why?
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" U8 v+ l) L/ U/ V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 }, n* Q, \9 g( `* b6 U% b
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; I8 o" K/ F% H! Z( T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; }% R8 |- X+ g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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8 [  V2 e, P' Z& M7 x/ R4 ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ @( J7 V7 x$ U! C8 E, h

/ v: S( v$ x! Ryes, that's the point.

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! }  o7 ^3 z- N, x3 B: b陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......