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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" a! U. |8 f/ i! f3 k

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! _( T4 W$ @# E1 S; m# U

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% \) n: ?0 [/ f" o9 A0 X/ `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" s# ]1 A" |! m- N3 L5 ]8 v

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why?
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3 A) Z; `* o& X4 G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; r% n& d  a" S( q9 \' x6 T

1 B1 ?. q; f+ Y: C" `軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 u. V( S  s" o* c- w& R
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 j" m( G0 \- v6 X" x0 n* y& Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 c7 ~9 ~- A8 v- r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# k8 b  h0 @7 a8 ?1 g# Y6 V1 I/ k+ |- W

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 c: }4 K3 y! x+ P& L2 _$ O( a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# r: P1 p( \6 O% T: i
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* k0 M' \# G  Q6 }
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yes, that's the point.

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/ J2 t% |7 f: T, ^陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......