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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# o3 v! [) |5 m1 w9 C
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) p/ W. o) j3 F& e4 \; d
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( \+ Q* j% l& Y! {0 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: P0 ^: W( l' ]: a5 t; y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 }6 _3 _# I. P/ f$ H8 N

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see #22 Thus
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5 e; c/ N4 h, o' ^3 J智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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% p3 p. w4 M; m4 z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( k% \$ k) _. g6 A: ~" n( P

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3 [3 J3 G; ?) s- L( }5 Z9 W* v( n' D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- A$ P1 Q4 Q3 s$ V! \7 k8 `+ h/ y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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) {/ ]# Y6 P# S# ^- ?他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 `. A8 V* T+ |% j6 Y. }4 E; K

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1 Q, n+ _: @+ a. BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 ]6 R; ?* E0 _, q& ^+ X8 v5 v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

, \$ F6 q  a8 o% E" {yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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