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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& ?1 V$ s% T& [% Q* c. K0 _: t6 d9 A
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! y0 n& |- c7 X9 C; Q1 \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ X2 i4 P/ y& b  hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, Y7 Z; c( K/ R5 N1 z5 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' _, h4 K5 B, c: D2 c
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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: Z( J& Y5 Z+ z$ W* i3 b7 R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 v8 y- L: m, ?) r6 N! E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* c/ G0 O, M% D% W  aIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 H6 S8 a' O' X, ]" @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 `- j$ T( Y( e% o
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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