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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

$ c% y* H9 s- t7 Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 L5 @  o' ]0 X" M+ }7 Z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 ^4 J! W0 ~0 L/ ?! d2 m; Q5 \3 F* KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 B1 ^/ r3 k6 z- v6 v; M: g5 {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) T; b) w. }9 P9 L( C# i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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) d, s; R' R0 H0 `5 t$ |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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0 w5 e; f6 t+ r" @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 N) C) ~2 R6 w- Y. a8 W6 _軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: W5 h  @3 l! G8 i% E" E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; w& Y/ b4 {5 |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* u; e! ~& t4 n

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他比孔明更偉大

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: I- {4 k: V. i( K' vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 H+ E+ |0 p) j( ]$ n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, b% f+ ]; J# V( {$ Q" V: d& k! ?
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/ Q4 O5 n, H8 R, u! W! V3 L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

# B9 T* u9 A1 ?2 zyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ Y' L' K% }& I( P# ?: D

: r- `2 n) l* \  {- H; o3 fyes, that's the point.

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- ?( X1 T' @! Q; Q% c陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......