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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  w! J! c! J/ d: s

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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3 T2 @" f' S* Q1 w2 Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 t- G/ Z  h! z2 B- K
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0 g; E/ \4 o0 M* ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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/ {- }$ `; U+ w4 Y0 x! u9 x* l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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' ~1 l! D/ A+ y% e, y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 P  N/ o/ c# L$ Y2 \6 R
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* \$ w% S! f" T6 O' rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, f; K) i8 s. I7 T' r  I
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, C8 N& G" A% _* @# K/ z0 }
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* v1 ~* O8 o! s! M. N

8 |8 O3 f* K- x# k% Qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......