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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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- I% b3 ?+ F  t% g8 p" X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* E6 N' Y9 A: G: M  X+ U1 b$ }+ v5 Y

+ `$ a% j, c- ~& t; X+ Jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( [8 F3 B; C1 y' J, a, d* uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  R; P: X" M' g' ?% ?' s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 @7 [+ d! X6 R% y0 s智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; H' S: ~5 {3 w9 E+ d  R0 T

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 d7 D- n; E  p- S3 x  y( b
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% S5 m7 V' f+ W5 s2 x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" n$ \/ E% T6 Z( a+ C0 u, jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# T& Q8 L# z2 x- b2 p, y7 H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% z8 W. K/ x' s/ s6 Y$ e8 G9 L* c

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 B6 {. W; i  k: J: a陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......