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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ b' i# O2 }9 |% V, A7 a

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: I; u# `: L$ l# z# ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 s7 {) R4 _* R; Z' aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* s" o4 {: {/ y; W
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! {' I! S, ^' K! \; d& f4 B8 u& q

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4 c8 l% n/ ^+ z' Q+ A6 e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ x/ O. P* ^" ?! [( M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 @* W2 Q+ d# o4 s7 f! M$ g9 I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 _7 T  M- R/ d  g& @, X6 Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" s& |; \% \- P/ k" ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......