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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' a1 a; K. G/ u. bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ b; y  k0 a: H7 d4 z3 q/ c% V5 \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; C' L+ v3 l5 x5 S- n) w3 k8 I

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, k5 m; s0 u& _6 [9 T3 H/ ?7 ~+ W; H
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why?
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2 M  a# o8 W' F) V- \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; }4 D1 o3 f% O0 c

5 [1 I( \# y5 j/ h8 o6 q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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: ~0 h4 {- r2 `6 c打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) X. k; ?7 W9 E. E4 N$ i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- u& ?# t8 L4 y! P2 r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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5 D3 @; t& N0 F% d( j0 T0 ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& a/ {* U" v/ J( g% @/ }9 v  I

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......