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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  d, I0 n. }1 [; {9 Q

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8 ~4 N; K) T" A# k- ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  s- ?3 P: A! V3 w& S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 ?- t6 W4 y8 t4 RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 n* ?1 `% q* n2 S  F9 X
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 z; B8 A1 M+ V  s( Z

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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' J0 e$ g5 N0 E2 j1 D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 i4 I# e+ J, r" Y1 b0 M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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4 m( v# F3 j5 }0 [他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, o% v, a. _: j
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5 _3 s7 [" h! Z  oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. G: U" F# U4 J* A, n) l& uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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- a8 f* x% ]) f  |! \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 z! h! M4 @; U! m' S, G
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......