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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) j, k' N  q3 c( [' F

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" L1 x' p+ F* P- M2 a. A8 X

! \% U% b2 ]: g8 w6 jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; t! w6 T! b" W: E. w4 ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 @4 h. o4 d- J7 N2 i/ D8 ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 ^8 ^8 w3 B* _' o1 i- `

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7 T' \' g" L2 r0 b1 ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 a; h( A- C' m" N6 fIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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* Q0 i5 J# A' A! [; {) @# HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% h( q3 K" A! ~" K

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ }% y2 B9 D' _7 A. ~& T( r4 i: }- Z
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......