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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( o0 {% W' H( c) M3 z6 H

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 L6 m* g: m7 n6 @4 y5 P
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ u5 C, R7 g& rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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  S7 M) d1 a$ v3 j2 H2 }- ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus% H9 v1 L& j3 F1 g) E# i
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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) `/ M" `; T' T0 E/ h# T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 i) {8 {) B- c

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! y% Z" M3 D* p% i5 iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" j1 }2 S8 }$ x7 _$ {' @5 \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ B# D6 H. `' B9 e2 myes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 b8 i5 Q; u3 f& r9 F1 a  d

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......