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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, a- [- H( c: i  B
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" F' N4 X8 P! obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 L/ U7 V/ p. O6 Z* r: m7 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ }0 g8 U+ U' F# k3 B1 A
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 J0 l. Y5 A( O% ]; X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 Z& q( q/ u8 F/ U( WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 _$ P: r8 \- t$ K' v
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( m" b" B  M5 f/ Y9 C, X
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ \- @, G- R$ ~  ~) Dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ r: w9 o" K; V1 Z
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......