對插水的意見

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今週的英超
有幾球插水12碼錯判, 尤其是c7的那球
唔知大家僧唔僧插水呢?

我自己就覺得,插水無錯, 最重要係看球証點判,對與錯的在於他主觀的決定
插水就好似爭角球, 界外球一樣, 個個都亂舉手話係自己波............最後咪又係睇球証判

可能有人會話,插水唔道德, 但畢竟係比賽的一部份, 縱然我唔會鼓勵插水, 但我就覺得罰牌就嚴左少少
有時球員跣親都會比人罰,又確係無辜

Shaqleung

插水係球賽一部份,好多人會將佢形容為藝術,認為識插水插得叻都係幫球隊既一部份,不過偷呃既野其實都無咩道德.角球界外球果D有時又真係鬥舉下手睇下有冇機,但係未必直接影響球賽.但係插水,同常都係講係十二碼或者危險既罰球.

C朗插水果球,其實應該咁講.SAMUEL係剷到波先,再有CONTACT令C朗跌,至於C朗俾D咩反應我就唔記得啦.但係佢本人就經常少少碰撞就FING哂手投訴,呢樣就真係好唔要得.

-仔仔仔-

原帖由 cfccfcc 於 2008-9-30 12:41 AM 發表
今週的英超
有幾球插水12碼錯判, 尤其是c7的那球
唔知大家僧唔僧插水呢?

我自己就覺得,插水無錯, 最重要係看球証點判,對與錯的在於他主觀的決定
插水就好似爭角球, 界外球一樣, 個個都亂舉手話係自己波............ ...

個陣c7無乜反應
佢只係訓左係地
之後就判左12碼

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Wigan嗰球仲離譜

T14H

插水無錯ge話最咩要吹罰,做咩要比黃牌
插水無錯...真係虧你講得出

皇馬_王子

個人覺得插水屬於一種欺騙o既技倆
都幾不君子下 , 有違體育精神
認為自己技不如人而搞呢d小動作
更加係勝之不武

brightlee

Oh my goodness....are you asking any opinion about diving to a professional referee?!

Diving = Attacking players try to cheat referee to make crucial decision. That’s enough for booking as referee will book him for "dissent action"

There would be similar situation when a player got blocked, and fall down, he thinks he got foul and ask referee to give a yellow to opponent .. this player is trying to cheat referee to make crucial decision. Referee MUST give a yellow card for that player.

Maybe you never know "Laws of the game"
In professional game, no player allows to  say, "me" or "number xx", players can only called they first name/surname.. otherwise that’s cheating to opponents, result is simple, yellow card for dissent word.

Foxcom

原帖由 cfccfcc 於 2008-9-30 12:41 AM 發表
今週的英超
有幾球插水12碼錯判, 尤其是c7的那球
唔知大家僧唔僧插水呢?

我自己就覺得,插水無錯, 最重要係看球証點判,對與錯的在於他主觀的決定
插水就好似爭角球, 界外球一樣, 個個都亂舉手話係自己波............ ...

很難認同插水無錯這個論調, 因插水本身就是欺騙球賽參予者的不君子行為, 而且更很有可能影響球賽的結果, 若不判罰咁個個都走去博一博, 横掂衰咗都冇事, 只會衍生大量的誤判, 扭曲足球比賽的意義

再者用球証主觀判決來support更不合理, 問題在於插水本質有沒有錯, 若真的有錯比喻為打家劫舍, 唔通法庭誤判咗冇罪就等於打家劫舍是無錯嗎?

Foxcom

原帖由 cfccfcc 於 2008-9-30 12:41 AM 發表
今週的英超
有幾球插水12碼錯判, 尤其是c7的那球
唔知大家僧唔僧插水呢?

我自己就覺得,插水無錯, 最重要係看球証點判,對與錯的在於他主觀的決定
插水就好似爭角球, 界外球一樣, 個個都亂舉手話係自己波............ ...

很難認同插水無錯這個論調, 因這確是欺騙所有參予者的不君子行為, 最重要就是這是很可能影響球賽結果, 若不判罰就個個都博一博, 橫掂都冇損失, 扭曲比賽的意義

用球証主觀決定來support更沒道理, 問題只在于插水本質上是否有錯, 若真的有錯就比喻若打劫殺人, 唔通法庭誤判無罪咁就可以當打劫殺人無錯?

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原帖由 brightlee 於 2008-9-30 12:54 PM 發表
Oh my goodness....are you asking any opinion about diving to a professional referee?!

Diving = Attacking players try to cheat referee to make crucial decision. That’s enough for booking as referee w ...

Come on, I KNEW that players cannot call me or whatsoever in the game

what i wanted to stress is that............Diving ----> to win a penalty or a free kick
Obviously i knew that ref will give yellow to diving players~ but why do people still DIVE??????

Did u actually think of it????

The main thing is that, if all DIVING is spotted out, players will never dive.....but the fact that football game is partially determined by referee, so there is a situation where the ref is giving the wrong judgement tells us that.......football game is kind of different~

我想講, 如果插水係咁不道德, 咁不君子, 點解仲有球員去插呢?????
我都知係唔應該咁做.......大家好大路咁去諗亦好正常

我响呢道出post,係想比少少新角度去睇件事

球証-------係好多時會判錯, 球員就係捉住呢點先去插...........

或者咁講.....如果有instant video review,就無問題啦......邊個仲會插?

大家不停咁話不君子不道德,有黃牌比
無錯, 係响球証睇到的情況下

球員插得, 就一定要承受一個風險,就係比球証睇到比牌
the is the rule of the game~ but the rule also says......if the ref gives a PEN......its  a PEN
佢地插水, 係冒著拿黃牌的危險去做...........但若果真係搏到佢地就贏啦

呢個規則佢地都知

最終..........插水與否, 都係歸咎於球証的判決....所以........插水我真係覺得無錯, 但亦唔arm