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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ q* w* N1 p( s3 s3 }
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  h4 J$ f" m& u) o' j$ I: ?/ v% u& r

3 |) Q# C) b- N; N3 ^  O' ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 h% X6 G! |# z3 v, q$ g3 c. B1 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 |0 m2 ~" S7 k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 ]$ T7 v+ e* Q4 P" ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 _5 q6 d% C" i# b% e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 ?3 T9 @2 t! X! x5 N8 {$ ~& A. Vwhy?
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3 U7 `1 ~# j$ t7 k, S& a6 M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 b  S' s* @3 V% A" C& u! C( [3 Nsee #22 Thus  a2 b( T4 x( `% V8 Z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 H/ M4 ~* u1 `2 M+ m: X% q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 T1 b( d$ z2 O" RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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% M& G2 o$ z& m7 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 V) ?. }6 E4 O- O

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; m; m0 K7 a' i- ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 l. w7 ~6 S# N4 _9 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* D5 m" c0 H, m

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ @( l) `* q% y) @  h
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yes, that's the point.

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3 @, a' p# e( H# E陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......