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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ r6 n) a0 b! Y5 T5 d

( r  R. j" [8 o8 g- K3 Xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., I7 @% y2 k& C9 ]1 j; `/ [7 l; t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 m0 o$ V; n& f+ G- }8 U
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  D+ K& J) x$ RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 j+ @. B+ `+ ~5 q) M- B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. i4 D( Q8 `3 W6 p1 I% ~, a8 \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) v( h8 g' B8 V) A8 _  l; \. {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 Y6 h% C) t0 F
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( L$ V9 @/ _2 ]: p- N2 e2 O5 d
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% z# [; z. k$ r2 q" f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ a; a' d$ F  q  `

) U9 @: m. `* v( yyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......