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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 t/ t" P7 q/ F: ]  M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 U/ ~% K& e# z/ D. M4 Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 [, I: r, a' v2 d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ @$ L3 D" s: S9 k) sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 x$ P$ p; M' k3 f0 P8 j
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 B% r; l3 q9 ?6 w

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 k& X- Z: o2 g  u

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& b5 A# ~% s* U" W+ c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# T; \2 M5 s: f
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 p! X* M. T' i0 L. sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" j7 c8 c5 e1 \. I/ O

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......