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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 q% X$ Y6 {& m9 U, A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) _; A" `2 P8 f; s4 ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' A- p1 B6 X' f; KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" k2 Y) k* `9 W. T- YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  f/ p: M2 ~* V  M! E4 {
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. Y' w1 U+ c+ K; M; q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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# w/ S  c7 p4 _' v, e% j打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., Q5 S* Y) g# ?% v; W2 s" p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 x) i1 N' T2 P) I7 j/ Q# Q& jIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 m' ]; w) Y, e; Z( x6 _5 |2 D: T$ z

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) w3 p% ^# l3 m. T$ ?他比孔明更偉大

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- o/ m# H$ Z& o9 G+ R7 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) q: i% G; ^: [. i  W& _  n

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: r3 O. ]' X8 x; qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 F8 ?4 `! c! w  i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 b; ]: I9 }# h, f) `7 a

* b* A1 A# j, _; }, R7 M. d0 Ryes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......