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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* |! ?6 V3 G5 X" U& u

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, Q3 L' f3 `' N- u. j! ^1 C) T3 g, S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 {3 F6 t% A4 }- B" T/ U2 }# {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( c  ^/ _! E  P7 v4 |( f

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/ \* @0 M& y' V! n5 R5 b8 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 U3 v  j8 U) b) \) K# x0 S$ q$ E* F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& R$ B4 x0 H" r/ N/ c( J! \8 @
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' E: v% e. i, e% ?# L$ q1 M
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! M" e2 g& R: o6 g' M( lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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) M% |5 g) W0 d- ~, ~# c6 k. LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% ^+ \9 R# |1 O. d9 Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( L- v: e4 r, l, E. B

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; h5 H4 n7 P5 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......