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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 j$ E/ o: \* e9 B  f6 H8 S! v
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 d1 ~) q7 \+ S# d2 g9 D5 h8 o2 O

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ q0 H8 R, Y1 s3 x- g, w7 L* ^9 ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ @) D+ `, x  T% C# i+ A. {

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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, a9 W$ E! v  |. H, A0 Osee #22 Thus
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% {* i4 E7 w7 h0 G# l# O6 @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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: |6 K  Q: i6 Q7 N軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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# i9 y7 C2 n" J/ }政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 F2 W( @+ L/ v" t

; E. g9 o9 J* h! y3 Y( V% `打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) L2 Q* f9 Y! w4 T$ ~
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  P, x( p+ E" L他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 K; o" _) f% |( E, vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 ]1 W9 l2 Z, m& O. q) ?6 a
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ |7 Q& E8 t+ i5 h4 Q3 \yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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