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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 v7 j! R# a  d/ P2 y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 l* }) R1 q! F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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* s4 B6 V- S" ~" o0 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 K+ D! J/ M1 r$ ?, _7 J2 a# v8 w! A

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* m0 N/ y) k+ L6 p: k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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, r2 t$ j! I( Q/ F8 n5 W' U* ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& k1 _" Z! ~* z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 n& b3 t% K4 @1 q) S; Z0 N+ QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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* J$ @; O) \4 |他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 l. ?/ m" i$ T0 F; S  e3 P

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# i, M+ f7 f! E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 y2 d, x+ D/ V/ J, y

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( f9 u7 s1 [& T0 d" ]7 D

$ D9 V% F' S0 k9 g2 [yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......