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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& P6 z, |) q. ]$ c+ p

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" i3 w% ^, T. [! p# C+ z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% h- V) m( o/ M2 A2 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 e7 t  n1 y* I, o$ P
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! p2 N. u7 b- Y5 l! r2 J% y( R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! B8 I/ I6 x: n

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' }& }/ a. k& _) y% \- @+ ~1 [

7 G! J! p2 V" t) O% a# Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 s0 E* ^0 O2 p+ @! QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- b- f  [2 l& L; b- s+ K
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& G) a& ]( w: y# y9 B5 K
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+ e- t) b, A0 t: E; m/ kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) x2 {1 ]- R" h5 d. r! M: {
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5 \* {% ~! r5 Q# y! P5 J# {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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