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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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! E. \5 I7 |3 P, }0 k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 E3 ^6 j8 r( H2 L3 t2 |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ g! l, E5 F# P( r2 d$ g2 n4 i
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* J) e7 R' t( ^  ]$ j! S6 s3 J  B

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( E0 @3 b' S, W% R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 G9 M+ ?; d% Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ G+ B4 x% u% K, n) S! g% IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 w# ^. D% y/ E; i% [
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' s# E: D+ I* `9 E! ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- V- _* h: U( _7 ]6 Q. X: t
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& F+ h1 G' K+ G% c4 ]* f! H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# j4 E* m7 c7 m  L& _% r# N

# ]- i' p0 S0 Jyes, that's the point.

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