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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 a# l) c0 \5 {; U( j& @
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) H9 o* w# A1 C  N& |: G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  k2 @! b$ a" R* W, HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# [- Q; E( k2 p- n8 H, K( @2 x) [$ O0 w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: _; F8 ?- D( Q  K' ?! }& V1 i
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3 G/ x% p7 T7 c1 U" aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- }4 w+ e0 W* P& \+ Z! f- R
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& |; [7 C. q7 Q, }7 `, K1 W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ X% c* y) t+ M! v

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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6 T1 F; k" i0 y. [. r2 B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ x9 M+ N$ y( x8 U, t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 _' h- p; O2 h* A
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 u. `; m% [' k6 L# b! ?7 O

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: \* z- w3 f# k/ ]8 k8 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 C% |  f9 \' U" H) ^) m; Q
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3 s# l9 f" V: [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 E3 `/ C4 R7 g' `1 u
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......