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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, x. P# H$ s4 X# S' R6 ~7 t
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" t6 Q, t* O% V) C$ O$ W' ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 y9 ?$ G( S4 h& ?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 ?$ k7 q' L) m2 j1 W" k$ a; v

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$ b% C5 Q3 G! x- [; qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; a$ L' k# A8 S4 A- T% |, E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ x5 V+ x. J" G5 f5 D智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 \: h) I$ \; y3 d軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- L: [0 b1 B! N4 _0 E( ]. Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' D* P% Q+ [% r; y! ~" _

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他比孔明更偉大

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. }8 d* \  Y0 ~2 E* IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; O% C. v7 E7 X$ I- n4 R

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......