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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* }7 l6 o( Z8 V$ j. {, A, e2 `* m& z4 i3 P

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ w# H; h0 D5 t/ v, O4 w& g6 k

6 \4 @6 T, b9 D/ m* obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! p. R! q- m$ u4 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. v' G8 M2 i: _# p; R# y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; Z0 M# g1 J9 e3 H6 F: s" D

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 Q) N" ~4 r' e  e% }: h! H3 k4 E

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" Q2 Y, L4 b* \, Z, V( A1 }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' M$ c7 a0 n7 J$ K6 I" E2 K! c6 mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: ?+ {7 `# X+ `# H7 s/ q
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他比孔明更偉大

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! t' Z: P1 J- |* W3 `* QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 }+ H" X9 X$ L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; c9 q5 k' u& U0 ?6 k+ l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! I. L; D5 A" L

! d" P! [8 @5 N/ G" z' R4 p% Yyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......