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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 v: W( R6 e' m7 _1 |" F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 k9 W$ ^- f% I3 m

" x5 S" o- I: T) K8 O( vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 k% n7 T+ Q+ I' I+ WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ l) a. `4 e; @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 _  i4 X! G$ L4 M! [
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) E. u% Q7 d7 ^/ j, c* gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ |" ^, L8 E! r% v7 o) k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, s5 o3 F5 @; e+ I
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why?
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5 ~9 ?! S" u8 ~5 Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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" k3 K+ J- W. G9 Y  Z8 m( @see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 R% y3 }/ s3 h3 p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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; Z8 R3 M6 W4 ~: N3 {他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 }& f4 `" B* a$ G
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3 w( K% v" h' y% q( \4 U5 V他比孔明更偉大

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$ V# I* h1 }# B* `; ?# SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 q# y5 y: U/ r- Q& q
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$ ^7 k# P; V/ @+ r: h5 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) e2 U5 {+ I! }7 E& [' ?4 y; s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......