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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 e1 M# k! s' l- {: c9 b0 E& ]3 s: Q

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# t4 B4 z+ M' H& q6 S; jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# y4 X/ |1 H2 ]3 R- Z0 v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  w) b6 G/ ^' w5 a* V

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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. ]. R8 N% y+ c) @. s) q4 f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." A+ I- b1 k# Z* B( d; q

/ @- X1 z: g) z* F8 z. j# i5 b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# W. {: _. y3 |& _; C4 w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) ?7 ?/ [. d2 k( I# d# s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, @; O! y8 K* f9 V* k% |

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 e* }3 H! }* P  E! }
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! w$ \: p7 h: Y2 h7 X) Q# q2 u+ @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......