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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 x: M, Q9 |5 K

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3 p! a6 e0 v, C. |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. H/ t7 ^6 x9 ?1 c0 C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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. a; @. V& Y( S( m/ m* p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# ?, ^; |6 H* j" a' u% R( S
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 O  k% ^! _  j; t; N

' _4 P  Z* ?* Q, r) ?; O! l$ d* L智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 Q5 y5 s" t; G- X  l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- L: l( a, B4 F: W3 e1 i4 A1 X

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ g8 }" L- K, {0 j: S( d1 v  @
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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2 L1 I- X& u' k: WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 n2 e( U% j' }2 C( R5 ]8 K
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: }, u7 [' T) o  b" K

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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