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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* S- o% ?5 d; E/ `1 R

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  p! A" r3 U, h* \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( c* D3 |/ I- G% `- L& H

- G& p, J( H) y+ [7 k# d7 ]but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" r$ t! q7 ?2 c$ i2 x' JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) j7 i6 J2 U# o9 _# a; n" J

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. J/ }  P- t( ]& R$ sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, H' N8 N# o0 {2 w
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why?
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" o  i1 `' n/ ?& f, \; ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; I3 u$ l# J- F7 p1 U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! h- P! D5 _: `0 G" p8 S9 U  c9 p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 t" v5 X- a# Y) `( R! E5 Z6 p
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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3 \' P5 k- e5 a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 X; z+ N2 g$ H. ?: p) r
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 I& F0 [3 x6 [1 G+ s4 dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  M1 ^5 p# i' O, U$ W- WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! |7 }# I5 X6 A" ]& f, O9 u9 B9 m
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; u+ s3 i2 b! |  e9 J6 O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ D! |9 Q3 ]  G1 Y
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 q% \& b, C8 [# }: ?yes, that's the point.

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