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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% A/ c: k: f' J
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ |5 G% C" N2 G2 y5 `3 `

6 B8 k$ O6 g% L$ bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ N# ~- ^; T6 J* y* m$ v& ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 S9 Z. M! Z3 z' i4 H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. ?% E# `% t/ e; a; O% nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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0 C1 t$ j4 W( d' V0 Z7 ?- W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( c6 }9 W+ R) Z! @* E; r2 B; I2 v

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why?
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5 \, M7 G- D' V& p+ ]" ?8 m6 I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 v. N# ~4 l( u/ R# n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 p0 k2 x7 t3 B9 H( ^. u

& Q' j  x- ^& T% q0 Y, ]& b7 G" r軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  Y( J& J7 G2 r! v" S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% J+ t$ R( Z4 Z; d! p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) _* H7 H/ ]0 j+ [5 F( z
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他比孔明更偉大

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  |* H6 R3 f) n% Z2 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. a* h* s  t% K7 L# S4 b# z' G5 x' E% H

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 J, j% x1 f5 L% F& I2 o, a5 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

% x1 j' o4 i* f: syes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* S- J( K- g- O. A

* q5 E6 B: W2 A+ cyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......