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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 r; s8 f6 y4 Z* d+ R9 `* ~

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

7 a. m4 Q1 o& ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 r2 z# f: I6 }8 [
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 c/ M+ x: i: s2 V2 u! R' A; z0 L9 \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& j  m& _! }! w" J. z! R" p) }5 i" QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) e( _; z* K+ D8 f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ _. t% a1 [$ n

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' W/ `% O. r; M' xsee #22 Thus- ~! \' _- |( ^1 g
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 I  w) T0 `, r) k4 K. A$ c  g
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" k6 _0 G5 Q2 F. }/ LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. [9 A7 y/ h9 d2 I4 d3 m
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( Z7 }) y2 z0 O4 h8 X$ ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  M1 x) u' l- \& w
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

6 L( a; o; n0 j! F# q1 ]) iyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 G2 W$ o2 c2 O; p" c+ l- ^
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yes, that's the point.

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