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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ p% \& `3 X% P, ?

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& B* l# D; R/ h, U: P) Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 Z/ o( w! j5 S  E5 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* Q. v5 \9 z# X' b" _
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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/ Z% O. ]' B5 f- ~, F! B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 V! `+ ^* n# w0 l# C/ m8 JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 _! z# I* p% ]

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7 r' ~6 B) v% V- z+ g" N$ S3 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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, N8 j- B% T) O/ ]5 e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' {. {( R6 f6 {" f5 c0 i9 ^9 k; F
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 d# e: ^& H" P" M: V% m7 b6 w

; p' O" G. c7 Y5 s: T5 Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......