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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 m9 k, i; @' [% E" W. [# S
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ @- c( B5 x% i3 Y/ M5 g

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* T, ^5 l4 ^9 ^, s9 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 q$ D) A0 y, S. u8 _! c

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: g: m$ o1 Z7 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ }* h: y: n4 Z2 J" @! Z% R" v) Q
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# n1 R1 X* d. @( `/ z* ywhy?- G& t( C3 V" D/ H6 I6 s: U5 S

  t5 w( Q; C& D, A其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 u" a4 n$ ^0 E) T% J
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 X5 z/ S: ]5 }) Y

8 I( E" F1 {. I0 Q/ D5 X+ A; s政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. w9 B1 g7 @% U, ]7 g# ^

. ^/ \0 f1 S. _4 E& C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  X# c9 {$ p2 l6 F0 u+ n

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# O6 B2 Y* L0 y: V1 Y2 U3 U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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6 F; f8 h5 M$ F! G; a3 T7 R2 J他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' k! N1 w1 _% u  p8 U
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- \2 h# M. t3 K3 ^5 D6 k
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* O. E  N( S8 ~( a, d
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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* Q4 y# D+ r' m( a, vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......