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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 |+ D# L) H" u9 ^9 a8 g

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 G  ]  q( f0 g3 g9 D

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; z6 M# W7 _% w1 ]$ J9 O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 Z! O& ~3 j' F, ~
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  ^- P% f$ Z- ]/ q; n! {; Fwhy?
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, C0 j& d/ e' z% y6 w( o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; i' W% `& c, o: }

' C2 s( g8 d6 U# ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., Z- U; L' O8 ^* l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- z2 _  M. p! |7 R9 W4 vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  K1 K" u$ f0 M/ N, J$ x* |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 H3 K8 O/ `$ H/ q5 Z8 W% ~) u$ s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- V' d) ^0 T" |# u$ E6 ^

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  h+ X5 z0 Q8 d6 N6 V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 N# i3 K4 s" r: \7 j8 ^! M5 d6 O6 p

, z7 k$ R5 I: B/ \, B1 ?yes, that's the point.

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