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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 [' ~" A2 {) X! b8 T

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ k3 U$ E" c3 x  r

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, N2 {, q7 J& k2 W6 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus7 a, ^. D$ }0 a2 ?& b

8 X. a4 V7 r" q  E; l2 K/ q6 U2 B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 ~: i, H: [- [% m軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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' z1 E& }" I. |5 k; o9 R1 ~政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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0 Q4 J* x+ O/ J, R  h: J2 P# b8 r打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( H  Q0 m% E% t2 MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 c) F% Z% c7 [& UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 K! o. _/ S: @+ O/ ]: @4 [
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6 s9 C: t; J$ u; f; _8 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; h" S. A2 \0 R8 e% [7 a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- ~+ `4 l. u7 ]6 j4 F  x

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  U1 g& H8 e2 u

& \, W% G; Q/ X8 a+ Oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......