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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ S# _/ d6 G4 m8 g! Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) d3 \( b2 |: u: YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# t% J8 [0 Q& p( X$ N  M" ^

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" E3 R  H3 [) J6 U* ?: }8 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. A9 ^3 m1 |$ L2 P

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 R9 U5 W* e9 |- g1 X9 L

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7 R' u- b( I. q1 k. P0 q$ w% W! ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- M2 E) V" N% j2 m- r
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 v9 T$ ~: ^/ K; Q& ?, e
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 l& g  _( @  u/ P6 ~7 u" N- ?8 ZIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ y3 M/ o7 i1 G! C- s* [/ a& Z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......