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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) I' _& y( t/ e; L0 c$ q) qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 E% U/ v9 a% ?$ V) t* {
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 j4 r0 T$ S7 U7 ~' a1 M
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see #22 Thus% d3 t3 e# J- v. ~- g6 e, i
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 |, j$ O$ v- f# Z3 |& t- ^7 K
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; \5 ^; {  g3 @. y. a
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& H7 a3 r/ J  C1 t4 I. P" R; P
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 q) g5 g- c/ ?, d% R. ^1 i% `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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9 Q" [6 U0 _; q1 {0 H) s他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. e! N0 E0 S, a/ J6 k9 g7 `0 O
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' z  S6 A1 U, h& ?! jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" B+ u& p/ @0 ?# q! g, [2 D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, L0 T! K, c/ M5 J) V

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......