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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* i* o& f) u: m5 \' Q4 D* L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 a. U! w- y# S+ p0 O$ k2 M: R

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9 g. w% `) A& R  j: bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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9 `$ I) I8 ~. n8 Q+ d  U) x. \: \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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$ N+ _* |6 N% o! n$ X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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/ E1 p" H# ]2 a. w! f+ |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ \# n* G5 r6 ]' ^$ X

2 i$ I$ B3 Y3 ~0 z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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) ~2 ]5 M2 b4 D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; [% v/ T" ^, {& b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  N  H% q/ E3 P, ^. G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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7 w4 J+ ~) G" j+ b他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% ]8 Y; d0 g/ l3 g$ V( ~8 M

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0 Z; T% o& Z: {" IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. U8 {/ s2 J5 H& rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  y- u3 A% t( T
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 X& X, H, m3 K; l0 c" I

; I; J+ F# E/ y. g: R3 M+ z9 Oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......