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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 k! J0 n6 b$ g. [! O8 n4 b
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" G) }" \3 v# x* ^9 c1 I. N! x

9 i  ?$ K- `' c* g' {but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 f: l# [) M' t9 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( C2 `; d7 c% T- U+ w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( {* n; l! |9 L& l0 s9 |5 O
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  E* t+ U8 u5 b2 e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 M# h' ^  h6 N. P# j

2 ~9 X. B2 M1 [4 T2 s8 m軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 D+ W  A% G0 l% x- }9 q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" N9 r) f0 k- h+ R  W2 zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% y) R) e- S, f2 Z

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 y* K! q! L  W

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! a/ g  |1 [- Q! N* a$ nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 |* _& X" U' Y5 O3 Y( g: s5 I

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# U6 H" A& s, J+ V( R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; X0 P& J8 Z% n9 @9 e

  A% I+ P# x+ l4 P, g8 }/ pyes, that's the point.

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