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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, H! j! U) P7 V# q" `$ N& L2 `, p1 m4 `

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 `7 R, m% j- SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% A/ }7 V; w$ r: b: A2 E- {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 r+ U8 o3 i6 e' m) s( H9 }
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% L( U& U0 T9 H3 A' L& K  _& s5 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 Z& s  ?# I$ [9 r8 K
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' o( [. m% J& j; ]+ I' l& A7 B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) h! s1 s4 P/ Z5 q5 u3 \see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 _* s+ C/ c% j; k* `1 c7 O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 i1 O9 _3 k: P3 T; k$ R他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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" X% J1 y9 k' N) X) qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& g$ L* L- l. \5 K7 u8 N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

" \6 R9 ^4 y5 u% R; byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; N4 Y# @& r, W! I

0 i3 w! }$ D% x4 ^1 D% V  b: Dyes, that's the point.

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