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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 A  u1 N- u* a! K, z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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! R2 R: ]% H& Y0 Q" o& E% Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. U$ V% G8 N- X1 x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' }0 W8 N3 Y: ^- w* u

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' {3 b0 ?7 f/ A4 L; ]/ E8 i4 \
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 d* ]  @" }0 u3 o$ M% o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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$ R. y/ S9 ~* V: y) B6 U% S' }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 p% W) `% Z$ W. S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 E% l: p9 h- _* `6 h
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  Q  O/ K1 v$ i! q, B+ D$ Y$ B
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 U$ o) u, w! u. M0 J9 m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 ?) j, k1 f% H4 ayes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......