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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" ?- ?6 c! c* k0 P4 x
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) N& n' a# j% I$ n1 @

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, F" ^7 _% L$ v- {. N" k+ PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- c) g+ N5 Z7 x8 [/ a

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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8 b# @% k+ N3 y& F7 b9 P其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 u6 s7 ^. h, T6 V& I

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' |; n( S; |5 _7 }. `; I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 F  x" k# I" j- e# _* J) m; W4 G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 Y! C3 E  |) c# v. y8 j; ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ N  z8 }9 {- s

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1 H6 M% `# u' C9 B1 Y5 p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 E  D1 I# G( R" j2 m1 d6 t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- u0 `; Z2 i: T$ ^
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 C/ L. }8 T) _
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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