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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: d# Q% {6 b3 e( _
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, v! F9 K8 b' M- p# Q( f  E. ?% kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 n0 l- H- r" X* z3 N( s# u( t, e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ X/ |7 X  ?3 h& B7 `

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5 i! v7 @5 u% o$ _3 m+ [( |' ?, x: [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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  ^/ t0 u: ~4 B: h4 x( ?( Z" d) {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 z/ Z1 Q! n6 P, P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 Q4 {  r/ ^" R2 ~: |% a7 X
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% }2 H# x6 M! p& S2 W
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# x6 w  J- O  }. `  C. i* [
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- u) y/ p# w7 I5 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) g6 ^: J5 L8 r( J1 U: u# ~1 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% }3 |1 l8 C7 [1 x! K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 F; F# J+ f$ C8 ~2 J  P# g
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yes, that's the point.

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