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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( b/ f/ ]* z6 B$ ~) j' ~" J) U$ Y' c3 O
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ P7 `1 R3 ~. w7 M' SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 E4 ~. x1 w# TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 ]( y. H) q9 \, J( m( }, H% P4 u
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( D1 H" a: n' q: ~. d/ }* S

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" C* j* z2 r+ t: z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( B0 l. Y. y2 Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 ^4 h; {: o3 u: u5 A: l6 d" t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 g$ }' n1 g- Y. S  Q, @# e2 U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ j) M5 @5 f% {0 J' ]

7 W$ c' |9 j, eyes, that's the point.

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