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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" q( r9 }8 h* e5 g7 Q9 d) S# n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& O6 f% }" N7 J0 J/ z3 `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 h. ?( H) e. nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# i, S# Y- W$ a8 b  g: {* a  |  g

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  ^$ A/ l1 G0 M
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 b7 z/ g' t/ L1 }  l/ K
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ q1 `  _6 H. R% S

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6 j0 d5 U. t6 o6 @4 b3 i) a9 Y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# Z9 u# a, T, F; C  A; I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! T5 ?. T9 a6 MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 ]; [. o6 y+ ^" ~0 _
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( W5 `: r" R( z" C. g8 _" i3 N- x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......