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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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, i) |* d6 \  v8 a2 H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 [$ A; [3 O, u* c! b/ BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; R0 t& v$ l+ EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' k$ u% Z/ n) w8 I4 D/ y0 @

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. r* e' x3 i6 @; v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& A8 q, I$ s1 C9 t

9 k2 {0 r* Y3 m  c# v6 @8 H3 ^政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- m6 J: [/ ~% p3 l6 `

3 U' _, i% p1 K  j5 R6 W! C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) @0 }: ?3 F% l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 o/ }" t$ h6 HIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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% s; ?  R% t% t% IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# c( G# e: N6 d9 j4 l

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 K1 H& B# F& q# a
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

- J  t: S# r, ^% l. \yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, j) A* m6 @- ^" L& Z( e/ x) R. Z

; \! m0 N; K! c8 B0 F4 C! W( k) Zyes, that's the point.

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