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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 c. b! Z! r$ D2 R: R
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 K. [8 `7 M6 _5 [; t

1 j- ?: R, t3 r6 U+ T* r6 p& |but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. c6 G6 h; }% s( d# a# RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ n0 f: G" y$ b  [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 z: S4 x1 O' D$ j% nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. u( Y1 y: n5 ]% [3 V

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% S0 a9 F) S: R7 S2 H6 Q. K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ Y, k7 `: v4 J4 P" {5 P/ b9 j, J

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" b% `: I% K8 m) H5 G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% y2 @0 u4 ~# F7 n
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: |( x$ w' K6 ^% D" w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  [# a( Y! p; L" BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& C/ P8 c: @: S4 D% n  K; YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 V3 z' O$ l9 S3 J) K
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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