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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; q2 f; q2 I# U) _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 D2 g0 V+ O: W  b: z5 @1 q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, j. C3 ~# u% p4 l* Z4 M
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3 T1 D) H0 U5 R5 UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 p. E7 i6 `8 I; {& h5 ~% c/ K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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2 J% m* k" o+ e( k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus$ }4 ]5 [& Z6 [# k2 N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 d8 s2 b: u# p0 r4 T/ Y% f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 Y' b- `; a, P0 p* K* g  V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 Y1 O% r0 P+ O$ z' C3 a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; X: i& K, {; S# T1 F
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4 I2 N5 q) M( K4 {他比孔明更偉大

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( {. e/ F* b  N3 C9 k) }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 D% B( Z9 s& A, z* ]3 R! d- P
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  ?5 I" q' u9 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 ]7 D0 G* W. j7 ~9 G
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yes, that's the point.

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