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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 c8 L; U5 R1 |4 Y# `5 t, s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 t& ~: i( B0 P1 Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# B1 I; |4 h# v# f+ Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' Z& w2 C2 r+ i. W9 B9 S

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2 ~, H. ]6 O" t1 l: l; K. [4 rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ t- Y8 X, c! K8 L1 O

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1 F. U6 j' O  ?9 |, r4 M* @( ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& y3 A/ G2 j, C2 L5 Csee #22 Thus, {  a# C; y) b7 S# n% d. u

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% y+ @! p0 E( e: W' G2 g$ Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 r8 k" A1 ?  S3 G0 ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) o' `; ^6 n% X9 U# i) f/ p" uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! ]8 ~% z# c& i. C) Q  l
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他比孔明更偉大

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' h- U( ~, y" f1 M& Q- VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 J3 q( a, @5 f9 \) d$ T5 pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( r1 u& O' H8 }% V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- i* _9 S3 F5 \

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8 l- K8 x9 t  N6 ?' P5 L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# J) @0 P" d. ?; z3 y4 M+ p

7 }( O# \; j3 pyes, that's the point.

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