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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* x$ ~& W; j1 F' @% y: I- d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 M- v9 e. [4 Y% W# j$ VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) h. m$ K1 u! l# f! p  G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, s, p+ I5 H; o6 h' J8 ]* J

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 C3 D1 Q1 j7 L& p: y2 `

7 Q' d% |$ w4 y0 l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 n. a1 z5 f5 u) P
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ ~: C, k% b- I4 W" p5 C$ _8 `他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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& Q" V; \5 k2 r1 t7 \, zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ v# x. \, Y5 x

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& V' J9 O1 L2 N& a5 v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' \; q4 X# V6 t) ~5 l# E  A
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) j7 i1 T$ G% j; e% N; P0 S$ ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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