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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( q9 Q, u+ N% D* d+ m  W  G

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 v  q7 [, S$ ]2 r( w! E1 i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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, P6 H& \) p8 q) o1 T$ |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, q/ W; y8 i  V6 W3 d# P
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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/ @( D  [' H+ y* [- o# ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 h$ e9 F$ E% X" M6 K0 |' ^5 }
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. G& H+ `; T0 Q% G( j( L. CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ ^; t: e6 G, u. o+ O
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, e" @$ c$ J1 Q. [  \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 J  L  @! h4 Q4 \- b% j: h9 _  |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) e; ^3 T* v: K9 U$ Y4 d  `
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yes, that's the point.

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. r# ?/ c) \5 I6 w+ ]3 E陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......