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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 [4 `( ?1 \5 ?$ d8 J3 b
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 O' i7 \2 W4 Q- P9 |% HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ `; W, V4 R- I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% H  [: n" C3 f6 Y

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* c; \9 O" z# N7 n! D; o: HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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6 C& K" P" x8 Z+ W! Y5 w5 l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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8 ^! @$ f4 ^8 q( V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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  s% p8 R; z! n# `) U  S8 J" j9 b政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 f) u$ s$ l+ p2 H1 T. t

! Q3 x! A; z, D/ @3 F+ L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' K: l( {  x! M3 R! i) q: {6 v4 u1 M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 x( B! x' l3 g, D& q0 nIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 U2 G$ g4 v: J7 j' p. f
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7 Z, N' P" S) t; c- O8 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" f9 p4 a0 H3 @) l# C* O  x& JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ ^1 ^. J" C0 w( ^% J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 u& @- @5 |; y! B/ G  C) [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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