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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% ?8 V$ C' Y' \) U0 w+ E) MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) t' M1 p3 h. G! S& V/ x; S* t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 c6 p8 J# A& b& n2 s# QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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  {1 g2 H% U7 t! L0 e- F. w3 Y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( j6 {( D4 J3 E& X3 y5 h1 f) S5 O
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 H' ?! i, F" z9 C) d7 ?3 k政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 i% k# b/ s7 `! t% F6 L
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 ~, k& V% u/ J* `* }& b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. P. u, ?8 Z6 U9 K0 `; ?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 `0 V# ^- v6 c7 m  }% S

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' P1 i: X+ |7 J1 n" t; a* P  b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 g6 B5 u  X* e
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ W* h$ B: v# L; y

  u& f: W/ |! {! uyes, that's the point.

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