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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( t! a5 i( D0 t, \' ]
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- N  T3 ~' w% j5 j1 i6 p0 p

1 l' i) T1 s; g( Ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( z3 @* o8 O5 K5 O$ R  B
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+ D. c; b( t7 i1 b  oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 G- ?6 K/ h# L8 Z& C1 `, hsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& T, t3 w) L' h1 o# }* j
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 K& t/ L7 w& {7 \" U6 E! q: K$ N6 z
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 \( O/ e6 x1 j# Y3 R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, Y: w6 \% w+ t6 c7 n. e1 }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* |' u; M1 i3 L# t. C6 S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* ]7 B9 f/ f1 O- r

) P( ^  l9 n2 A( ?; K4 ~yes, that's the point.

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$ T  k/ E. R' L. A% q& p0 c陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......