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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, A6 v9 u  s! R* k: c$ U/ U# z

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" W8 g5 t" i* L5 @  f5 k! I' [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* h; _! N* m& r6 S$ `! |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 E' V( ?6 w- K0 e! r( Y: W- G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 i. U  H9 Y9 G4 n( s( X

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6 s7 @# N: K: ?1 i3 M, k# ^2 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; l6 b' U  ]& M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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9 c7 n! H4 U! l% `  G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 ]" [% ?  ?4 t) F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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& H# d, \7 t( Y5 r- S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# H/ s: L( k( _8 g1 Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 `1 P$ i) w- J3 X: @  e4 cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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# L" u3 W! D# D% e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: t8 L# C7 \7 [4 ~% r
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# j' J" D: w, X' K# JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 O# B$ V  @( g3 ]7 [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

6 L# d* v5 T6 Kyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......