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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& Q' B. k6 Q% Z* ?8 T

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 G1 z, `( U3 y: Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. I5 C! q1 r( w# o# E' g! tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" c3 t- `# P. T+ F; U% ]# V& \
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: g& B; a% T0 e6 g) {+ z+ @$ F& aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( D" I- V" I: M+ m8 P5 X" h
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* ?- M: X; u* a) J
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 n+ Y3 h" i9 a
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." o5 O) ~$ s, \  K

1 \/ C& C  D$ f4 x打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- v0 m( d/ _9 p3 |' r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' A% ~+ t& m. O2 o; V( [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 b/ G/ [% b& \$ L: e6 N! b+ F9 A
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yes, that's the point.

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