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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 m2 X! t1 P! @6 _) qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 T. o4 J7 j; ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 V+ Z  i3 f5 }+ i2 JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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5 {( H. p: o. W, U/ W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, ?) U+ |0 Y' G3 @/ ?

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 Y6 `# Q$ g5 x5 P8 a6 E. w& j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 A+ I. T0 P# F# T$ z! ~In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ R! |  f) n6 L9 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& W7 r' T, {: ~

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& S( y# u$ I6 x+ c

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3 \& q  @$ R# e0 }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 D' X% `3 X/ P! Yyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......