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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 X* [2 Z3 r% q% h; L! Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 g* v+ N% P. K' WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 g7 D$ m) G7 [$ g2 t5 y+ ^" [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. @! [. u* A& J! o2 D: W9 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus4 y" ~& R0 u9 m
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- b6 k, o$ G6 ~
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 }& o0 I. h' {# ~6 Y  @
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- t' Q3 N0 F/ _; j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& l- X* x2 j% v: S$ I2 z+ B" \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ p: a2 b$ x2 {3 E

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) N1 q2 H  w: m5 G/ B- M) n

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* R, |: M! \4 b+ U4 y# s, g

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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