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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 ?: S+ d- R5 _8 z" z+ @
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. Z/ w% m+ k; b/ ^' h' K( e

, o$ Y# U7 v- _8 Qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 p! U" Q3 t. w6 k5 v# GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 T% a- C0 O! @  r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' d" O5 F; J1 S( o+ ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  R6 N; O8 X5 k* P1 qwhy?
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0 W7 I5 q1 ^1 F1 P8 S4 F5 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% o/ X' }4 o) K9 K! j

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& {. a8 J, A' E+ j打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 w5 M; T: F  l1 f, p; ]3 A% F4 Y/ ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' `0 L1 l& ]+ l9 V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- E+ g; J1 f5 C8 o2 b& n% _* C# j" r
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他比孔明更偉大

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3 J8 |& e3 ~" f6 _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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2 ^2 s; H$ f' p# Z' h: [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; m5 @8 F. z# \% }9 z( i1 g4 U
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yes, that's the point.

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