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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 P( t/ d+ W- T3 g
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! b; ^4 j( u0 o1 Z* T( A5 p( H" W( ]

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/ q& }- l% e5 o; D7 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% g; F8 y- c# ^* p# q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% L# ^  \) B- S6 j8 t* I

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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+ R; o9 D+ Q: a9 f% `8 R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* _* S$ B7 f/ e2 y" lsee #22 Thus$ e+ d$ v' }6 T( `
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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1 G) n) h* H0 r' p$ H. A' ^0 C軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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  l  b' D( n- n( |% y政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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5 i* G* `2 N& k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% C1 ]( a5 P  o" V$ d
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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4 D0 r& u. a6 @' ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 o3 F" l* O2 S; F. [/ P; w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# O  _( {! d5 o1 ~5 H

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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