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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, `& I' `4 p* a* p: u+ p1 v& T
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 J7 V+ Y3 W. ?+ [7 h

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8 w$ |7 @+ @2 r0 }1 B: m, r& {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  G: ]3 e" L9 R6 U$ k6 S7 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ H! X, I& `7 V2 t/ j  M2 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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* t. q- g) R) l9 \1 C$ z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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9 t! u1 A7 _0 k打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. W5 @( ?$ ?2 ?1 R* Q3 N! K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- _! {" q, f' y5 u) F. M0 g

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他比孔明更偉大

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6 R3 }: e/ P0 v) I, gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: `$ \' |: L8 {2 ?3 E0 j

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4 ?' c1 U, o$ D, K9 b5 m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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