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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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$ e6 y7 \0 W  W# `' l, P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" W2 F0 T, {7 c0 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 H* C1 k# j9 Y6 G" G, |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 \/ Y9 L  k7 ^2 ^8 K7 W& n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  c3 M0 e' H6 L4 r
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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* E; E& y- i/ y' ]" r軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: e+ Z7 m  z7 I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 N. K) o; i- k! i5 {/ L. T
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 v" Q5 J# K5 F) x6 u' a4 ?" g他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- I" ?1 B1 R$ H3 z) q: dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! O! {+ r8 S4 M

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* A9 h% o" S$ c
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......