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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 y" i/ V5 D2 i) Y) ]* j( o/ ~
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  G3 _% t" `. l* l) c& gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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& J/ Y3 I* ?* T/ G+ w; Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- Y* G- t4 i/ J( l+ \* `" @
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 i- a. d' e& w1 r* m2 V: M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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) r! p1 V6 M+ {% ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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: q; H( c7 H7 k# {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ g8 F7 {7 Q/ Y4 `. M" d& n' S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% c2 ]7 l1 F5 [0 X
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 s4 f, w: R' k/ e4 K8 O0 d; Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 _4 U  Y4 y' p, `9 Q
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......