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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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- |' C, a- e8 _but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 P2 m; _) W1 {* K( \+ X0 c8 U8 _- F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& W" `3 M% N8 l5 \$ K( B
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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7 j1 M6 b& Z2 {% w- e$ [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  T/ F4 b$ }; P8 M, I" F

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+ Z& a8 L6 W* u9 u' B* [* S% }+ I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. h! p' n0 x* C: ?3 E' m& ^9 V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) A+ ]8 Q- B  `7 f5 I; F
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 A9 u4 `' S. A& ~& D0 Q0 y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) X# p) k: k1 X# K, F" e- {0 @In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, }5 y% B9 s' D
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' r, O( G% X; Y& y. Q* e
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( o/ K8 l! f8 e% S# dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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