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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 V' ~4 l/ e2 R% g! v( Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 W0 |. G. P+ yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., }/ J1 ?8 Y# D) X8 p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! ]' y4 S. L% F: ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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, J5 j9 `; j0 n  E9 P! J  d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) _0 c; F* D! y# n  m

# U+ B* }7 m6 P( Z5 f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.( E& s+ i# M4 I

- }# Z! i2 {3 v# Y# ~" o. M打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 @+ M0 h  J2 R$ M! m8 v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; ~7 Z9 o3 S0 t1 S) |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 A% ]: x6 G& W+ Q1 J+ b+ p% ^

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' ]7 h* r1 Z" X4 ?  l他比孔明更偉大

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- ]: F* U# n/ }# Y" ]  F2 X  GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 W( g, j: h/ w+ {; m
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 a9 c$ x5 f# E/ X: M% F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ G# W+ f* d* g7 A. _6 H
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yes, that's the point.

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