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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 }' i) b* d6 @' N9 c+ W
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( Q2 y) p: B0 z/ ~" H: S8 ?2 a1 q1 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ x5 V7 T+ V* ]0 O$ z
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# ^, s+ o7 c2 C, XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: ^. e- V5 X# W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 n3 K. S& s6 p1 m2 R

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* y( Q2 _" p/ p' d3 z# \; _3 Z2 csee #22 Thus
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: Y, \) h2 h) H' `& [5 r$ b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 ^, u& c, _1 _
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  H$ C0 y2 I+ p  w) ~! F

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( T3 N) a% g$ i1 ?. g. e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 {; f6 Z( H1 z1 C" u
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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3 f& w1 d  q# S; p( Q5 C; RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) w! e8 U& y6 W8 }/ G

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......