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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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$ V" W/ q. @2 O$ Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* m1 W, n7 n6 |2 n7 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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$ d1 c* q3 I9 ^' X( T: j- B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 b. C5 h/ Z/ h( V$ X

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9 m6 m' i* E  u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& `+ O9 e3 t8 f7 x) d& {# V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 T2 p/ {1 v, t# c; B2 J8 \5 P
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ q4 |# U; O; n  F; U9 ~4 [5 ?3 O/ h
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 ^9 @% s& ]5 v, c% }: r: I5 n2 ?1 e- G

$ N: H2 r- z2 o2 B; c% i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! y# g3 Q2 b. V0 O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 a- {% y; m3 Q3 A: B' S6 zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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: B7 d- c* z( {1 s) c$ p* mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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4 q/ L# R" i8 S. }; p" e% l! R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 N" ~2 F3 U1 e0 q) u: {2 u* u
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......