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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* c* Z' q3 i- O

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) }# H" u$ M9 C8 W
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 |6 Y9 u0 v* S6 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! T) T' D+ [- f. o0 M1 p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 o" a4 X. `) f0 O8 R
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 S/ @$ j/ y; X9 c' |1 `智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 O0 p9 ^% m7 N

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9 g3 g8 m( ]6 V8 O' i! U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ Q+ _3 x" N5 e2 T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 ?; [( W9 d" u" A& r7 z+ F! GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 o& R3 M! [# [/ C2 x7 N' X
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他比孔明更偉大

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4 q5 P) W$ ~2 wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 l& z3 e' D! J+ }9 e
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# r& o8 ?9 |4 @2 C5 ]+ W, Z: G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" K3 x& Y$ j% `) X6 W- @) [0 G. S
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yes, that's the point.

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