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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 ^8 D7 G1 g3 \- U0 f! s

7 D2 k2 p( H! r5 Kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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. p$ Z7 C: B0 L/ VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ X9 ]- H( Z2 R9 i& _( i" }

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1 Q5 W/ ^( r& @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) D3 _9 W) v+ k2 u0 i6 O- u9 R智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 _% H! ~0 N" C2 i! h% i
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  t& H( x4 X/ N7 ~  ~2 v2 Z. R( T

- h% ]6 P* r, q" `打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., \+ R1 y0 d. V4 t3 e* }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ c3 M5 z$ V: w0 M1 {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ R3 q' E' t( D0 L5 X# f1 t* R% f% B
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他比孔明更偉大

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. g# @; G: {$ F, v+ t' r' S; pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 j" k( U, @1 A. RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 O9 b$ r3 e( V) t) x4 Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 S3 K1 f$ s- z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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1 ^: K4 \/ [2 J3 |  @8 jyes, that's the point.

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