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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ E: P0 T" o$ w# ]: `
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 l6 m6 \- P. S% r2 r8 @; l7 OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. r* U* B0 B4 @, E
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6 c2 @" S3 W9 X% x% UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ J% w5 O% ?* a- I; U! M& `6 ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 d( i) E7 `; x% F  x: `% j( O6 t
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, j5 \0 v! D( {. c1 u4 \2 u. Q3 B( Lwhy?
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$ S. s  I0 F' N4 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 H2 Z9 s' @& W) I( o8 h; `" Q1 W/ r
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: [9 L0 P* V  }2 o6 U9 ?% S& X
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 b, }! [0 \  d: ~% L  y3 ~In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" ~' }, M  v% `2 `' q% }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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4 l, s8 Y/ K3 |% c( c+ W7 [  {8 j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* d, Y* R4 d" j' A4 H
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; Z& {1 _) s" Y/ S0 r

# _5 s7 k" g: u% jyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......