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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 ^3 l% G4 J, O9 t! s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 [' X  w) L: b
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; E6 h) m' W; [; @' w' e1 S
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see #22 Thus
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9 g, \  y( \# Z$ J5 o智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% Q5 F# [( g# @5 |+ P
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& d  y$ A; W5 ?% D7 l

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, y5 D* e7 \, ^$ _8 ^& v" ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 Z0 {, c) i  `; _1 J* a) `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) M: _2 ~3 W$ E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' H( @+ B- l, w* `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& L* x( ?( r, H* j+ v

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. ^6 `. t& O. m- H* [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! S- C# [+ H: ~5 X; w9 V. Y

8 Z; H0 s( k6 h3 S0 L/ Vyes, that's the point.

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