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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- ~$ m" R* \( f- g5 s; t7 b" O4 @7 m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' P- t$ {6 ]7 @, ]but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* L) Z$ ]+ B7 U3 s: P* l, u" iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 S! D& z# C: |5 E/ S' rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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+ v( P5 d+ o! k  w1 r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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' l- `$ ?8 v  Y! |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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/ ~* @5 v) ]* R) x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 ~! D& Y8 _9 I7 U: K2 y5 c
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; L8 G* t( T& ^6 u6 a% R+ h; L: cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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" D* R; L* L1 i6 P$ NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 F1 D( H, j# A5 K+ {
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 A1 ?& D! x- r2 h4 g. m
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yes, that's the point.

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