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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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3 ]6 l3 D6 e0 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ c& @4 W6 N" PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( h. |& G9 e7 J" H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 [8 G6 G1 @$ j9 a
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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4 h* b3 z8 F; ~, B& f' J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. O3 X2 e* m) g1 G' c8 R
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; D/ H' l/ a3 M: x& ?see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, }0 [! n; U) ^5 U  F. l4 U
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ j( {+ `+ z  b. k( N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 F: W( Z# V( c0 P( {8 t9 @
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 `& b; s* [0 F( I+ k1 d) K

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1 x4 {5 ^# s  f7 ^/ Y) p& }8 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  l* r0 o% W0 H2 D1 b/ u
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ `: s/ F7 x/ W4 c- f
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0 a9 a. G0 s; m: ?/ J' w; L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

( a- Q. m( Z( b( }yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 J2 k+ X& q$ U6 V8 s) \

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