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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 G& i( X+ X' z( B* Q4 s8 a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! \# r' E/ Q% E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) _  x1 Q9 H  M5 [. L3 F! j( c: zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 o# T5 O) z7 _# O( z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) I4 [  V# s- k) X) I8 ?7 d2 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus* j% R) _+ q; F9 w) ~- H* ]

  N# f* g3 B4 \3 B' T9 U! C: R! N1 G4 E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, B  k' U+ |7 g- A

* [, F% |% H3 ?) R軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 U' e: t7 d+ Y- {5 ^
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. e, w7 i* L* n( W6 {' `
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% q- D1 L; l! V( z+ j% MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( n" X3 g" M- a% O: y# ^

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5 x4 S+ S9 k* i# B9 a他比孔明更偉大

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& x3 S  G# R$ ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 l% d) V7 T9 vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# y, P+ d7 q( l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& M1 s) p6 K, i9 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 x6 L$ P5 v8 K) r
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yes, that's the point.

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