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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 A9 e% `3 U% l4 P# q% Y% a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# @- \4 V6 o" n. H3 ?. ]* EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. c5 q5 e$ M, P, O" r: `# Q, \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ L9 g$ q- m( t+ Y7 J$ p. ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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7 P, W( c1 U/ \- Z& s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus, K  ]7 E  C# S# a& s

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. Z, I+ C) _& b5 [/ o3 _% C1 l0 h
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) a) A  V' g( N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! m; s7 x  u, B" h0 G' j0 yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  ?4 l/ I0 H8 {6 ?% o, I1 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( L  Z2 s3 u+ W6 _1 Q7 S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 V2 }" W1 M% X/ }* [
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......