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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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: q9 T7 Q/ J- z7 s' r% `! V, P/ ]& x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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( J8 Y/ Y: P- A. Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) z+ \. f( P6 b6 h" JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 L$ G. X' V& ]3 `

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6 o0 J9 K! l. a7 O; M# F$ Z# G; }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) h% W$ r+ i! I: F+ y6 S
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 P8 @$ o* R' l" Hsee #22 Thus
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: L* A# b- z$ h3 j( l. h2 ?2 Y& b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ j) G3 V# B* ~; E$ T; w7 H: w  {- J

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 |& D4 \. M! r% a/ ~
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" {& m+ d0 w2 e* P( L0 q0 h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 f( ]" `) r: B/ r# g' W, r, [* JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 n' L% k* N* M3 u9 Y% p
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( v2 L4 H& Z( B) d4 x9 ]$ H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

+ g. B4 e# ]  t, ]& h( myes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- C7 [: f2 F( ?) k' e0 |
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......