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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: ?1 ?8 K" a9 D& B" P2 N* \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 y! b) j/ _* m

2 x) c2 t: s6 Q$ f9 }% ?8 J2 Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 b9 `# t# t+ z2 `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' K% t0 o! x9 W4 `5 v3 h! R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- s9 m4 B- a1 Q, M
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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' Q# m3 h. S" y2 g" E8 e" U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% X2 A- H7 u+ _7 z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 ^; m0 b+ O; O8 T( P, [7 }9 {

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$ C. ?/ u/ X3 P0 I0 S3 o% G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  D3 m; m7 p5 V1 _" V/ a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 C- ?: ]6 T. {6 E0 e. xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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/ x$ @2 U2 j  i他比孔明更偉大

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7 [) v2 _7 z5 w# e  M8 K$ R  ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 l2 V7 E- ^' |: L

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' z: }" m  K# o* {# `3 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 L, |- b! x, M2 t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 v" ^- K9 t' q- L6 h. J0 M7 l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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