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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 e7 b6 v! E9 v* Q- `* I1 m

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9 z) q) R' Q8 ^) T) |: c$ [2 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 v5 i3 t# I! W$ X1 b( aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& e4 L4 b3 X5 C3 Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% A$ }0 J0 y0 Z  ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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8 n/ H+ _' f2 F, V% l' i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  m8 z6 @, \2 G* y7 p3 Isee #22 Thus
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+ h. `! w4 Q0 t& _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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# a+ q9 X* P9 C) A4 w3 e: q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 w! l" p: g, u, S1 V6 Q' u% D

2 h% K; n2 @$ Q. g2 P# w政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; Z" d* w. ]% Y

1 o6 M  |7 e2 Z* C4 ]0 Y  V打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  o, B/ H- U1 E- m" e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 X8 O- I" c7 `7 U1 e3 w% p! }6 ~In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. s/ q6 i- p  c& W8 I: \) L# s

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 o2 _- g  F- M4 s, @. g2 C, n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......