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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# y+ M# k- i8 m* T

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- _2 M5 d/ n8 ]3 ?! B1 N; U% tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) {# ]5 f8 o! K- I4 ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( w# g" |7 L0 v* a( N  v$ r0 e7 R

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4 w! w; R+ `5 ~% P4 A; eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 h& l0 l8 e/ `, R8 a7 }9 I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. f( c* `5 b  O7 i3 i2 S: M
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  C2 n" ~) u( d7 e3 k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  C' L' D5 f+ w9 E$ x+ l

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, m! g+ ?* Y4 {9 q- g政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.+ o8 m; K# E, o5 \+ Z8 X! e

  T# g+ Q+ g' _& g5 X# |/ W9 j打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; n1 L6 c. O% k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: m6 O' [5 Q! A6 v0 a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ w/ ?' l9 X' t7 \他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 i8 c2 g/ @7 A0 i
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 m8 k4 ~# q" J" [# l! y$ JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 m+ \1 V6 K: _. f! cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ z! b- s9 _: ^* W% Y  K3 r
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, L5 V  T  \+ J* q: A, U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 Y, @" ~8 ]# w: A, ?& \

7 q6 g0 L8 p/ m) o, ?! Byes, that's the point.

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