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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 g( c( j2 x' Y, A  L" D( q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 Q. w& f/ L3 c* a5 ?
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! Q% c8 g, n! Y) Z& NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 @) \* O8 _5 o2 x- J9 Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 j" t4 x: C: c% w  e& I+ U) I
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& X# N) t% Z; r: _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 K( d6 f! [  v/ D) j, Qsee #22 Thus
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9 F% S) O/ r0 J5 [& t8 ?7 ^. c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) Y" r7 w) G0 X2 E

7 K  F7 Z! U2 Z. g軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 p3 {; x0 U8 }: `6 ^

, K* F  H5 X# R" F2 Y9 C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 {; z. P' }9 E, l2 p$ S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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0 I6 L7 a8 |+ B* _4 s9 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 J' ^' \) N7 ]+ g/ K4 L/ I6 P5 w
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. Q# d, Z! o, Q/ F9 _& d. wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% x  U, H6 q( N9 }9 P" h+ v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& \4 V1 b2 l) E/ t8 F9 f) U
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7 E' T4 X9 h: z1 C0 K- v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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" {3 o. i1 d" G6 k; pyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......