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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 _: q! f' E5 v% v

; F  g) T+ O; u1 tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 w) S( Z: s" y) x9 Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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; ^8 P' U9 L5 [( d: E- h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 \3 s) c) q( i4 J0 C
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- n. k) m2 Y( a/ R2 I, v$ P
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- R# i9 d  F  K  @- h

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ z/ n4 r( ?2 {! u( w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# M4 K! f4 T: ]+ C: k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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( q8 x2 h3 F: w( OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" M. F$ r- A# A' kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' J7 }' p( @- T' I. {; _8 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 h- w. L7 v3 a: y9 ~* l
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yes, that's the point.

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