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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% I" \2 x+ K8 B& r2 R4 H

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ v, S. L0 F! I" i

- r: e, b( j3 j" R& ]but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ \. p5 s) m8 \+ r+ ~5 e* E) H2 P: aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 C  ?' }* Y0 ~, W- S# p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 p. g5 Q" s2 a1 {* i3 [6 k+ \
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( P0 d0 q3 ?8 Q) L3 F4 H+ `
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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- P* n3 o' h4 x2 c6 e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; l7 `# t" d1 f+ o$ J9 ]
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 H6 }6 S% U( M! Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& q' x- _. V8 f6 n8 ^
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- H" |1 N: g" i2 C0 N( ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 [# W- F& V% o( l9 Y  B, }: F: V
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: [* Q. w# N3 @
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# I8 e9 o( `; x  U1 Z! _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. A: s: B# C" `; q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ F0 C% k2 L3 ~
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1 d/ }8 [" ?. M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* S. X# Y  Z  d, W/ @4 X0 @
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yes, that's the point.

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