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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. b0 L( Q2 D( }* ?0 A! K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ i: q+ E. r% P" O1 E& P7 Q0 k( m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! j$ f; X  u9 ^5 \& w) m- u+ lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, m9 x) z& B8 {8 \  q1 s

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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: w2 J& i, e. {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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3 k& [: I8 M4 A7 V+ K9 x: s- g+ l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ G, U+ s2 h+ d7 {4 t+ ?: r軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ L9 u7 d2 j' u
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' v( H. y' j( o6 Q

3 U( U  P2 _& v* _& s% v' \' U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' l! ?4 _; l. [1 h
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% w. p2 \. y4 }; V# H$ ~* }$ ~4 Z  cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 [* k7 r/ [. t% s. q他比孔明更偉大

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: c# a% Y- s" F! _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 b$ V, [! @2 `5 {6 ]4 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  J3 [! b+ [: U0 h! C1 R7 O
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' v: e3 F( c0 o) g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 R) s" m. l* v7 A  x7 Y

: Q$ g9 ]' V9 K0 ]" fyes, that's the point.

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' _' c3 Z& ]' c/ J% o/ m陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......