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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 D! o6 K& X& H! a: ~) p) ~

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- @0 Q- o3 a' z' S7 e0 g

5 Q" a$ ~: M5 Ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' x' t0 ^" T. k, s+ S4 P5 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% ^* c( I% i, t) t3 A7 M/ ^
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" N0 g# h# C: I+ B) }

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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8 y9 V+ w! v$ y: h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; y' t0 r3 |) v* m) r+ I: t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  ~' M% d# I6 T8 H1 r. a( b: hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  s3 J% R9 P0 I! e1 g# x

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- C: w- K% O$ D. o! W( c0 @
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; c6 N* u. F# q5 U0 ^9 TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 p1 y8 @0 K- p) x9 m. T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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0 F2 w9 p' ~: g  {" gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......