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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, k; D7 Z  X# D7 D

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 z( {! X2 l  VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) A8 s6 a3 v. y+ i

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 m: G+ z1 g+ k9 Y; s4 C! ~% d8 x" c軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ _' }0 H: l2 v政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  E3 T0 A- \& J4 m/ G$ p- X! VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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. ^' v( U' u- f4 l, W# _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# W8 ~, |7 [6 iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ W- M& d7 C$ p9 @9 Z+ J6 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' U. J5 k  D/ q, O( D  w5 M9 f

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

% O& v& b" `4 Gyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' P# S$ l& v6 h- }  b* W

+ R- i) {9 F. v" ~- h3 wyes, that's the point.

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; |' l  {3 x7 }+ ^" V陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......