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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 B0 _3 x5 T2 ^: C& r9 x

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8 d# G& q# m. Y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; b# I6 B/ t& B( T& m, Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* b0 {1 ]" H, w( [6 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  H- s5 p2 @. y& g" ~( J

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  ]% ]2 J4 V- Z3 J5 r% tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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2 N% e! z) z1 F8 Q' h9 P. G, Csee #22 Thus
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: x! K& V$ K0 r8 ]4 f0 K  G2 a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. }0 m% Z! @, C) P

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 v8 b$ `  \$ d" FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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4 L* Q3 q# ^$ j/ V% \7 L他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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( C8 C6 j2 I  z8 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 V: o: V' R' o& l4 q, a
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# X$ p% y, [2 ?% P& F" C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% n2 N7 Q, j% N7 j, c

# Z# P+ d5 k: d5 [yes, that's the point.

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