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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' i& ^# E  W  {& N% P6 Q% E1 M- {

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: J; u. t: C+ S. s) g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, I/ K" r" R- n3 Hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) X6 T7 e" N- S8 r6 y8 X! C  ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  a. q5 ~: p$ V" j

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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7 B. `) Z" Y5 E/ F( i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; a5 ]3 v; j6 W/ K$ q
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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" g! f" `  A: g' o/ ]$ a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  f3 j+ r* }! t+ x; A# B9 nIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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) O7 s$ p) `) ~他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  j" D" U. f  z/ u4 g( T

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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6 L& x7 w& u5 p- P" ?7 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 ^1 N! T8 |$ u" ?! a, Q
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' F* X7 e6 F* }  [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 q3 C, y5 B4 B/ i" w; R- Vyes, that's the point.

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