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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; }! Y, W/ u" Z6 b& d1 h4 h
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, n* Y1 [# W/ N
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* R3 k9 R0 U# z0 s, b4 x6 s; c+ uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; R7 ^1 n' S. ]' l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  J& W0 D; L  }* v: ^& v; C

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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" w/ q, K1 k% r4 U+ }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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7 g7 k1 q- h1 [9 @; q! B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* d/ ^8 v( x6 K
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ L0 r9 P# ]! R# r8 F9 j0 H0 t

9 Q9 u2 Q* X, U& w! j6 Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; a2 y5 V$ B$ {  m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 o+ x, o( Q% w6 ?) P! [$ JIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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$ c6 }* b  k( Y3 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" D6 }, A$ h% U! L! z. t( y) z6 q

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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