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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: P- H" K3 W" g
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( ~6 G" {3 \0 z& w% y! d6 G智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) w5 I0 _) k5 \  p8 q7 cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# D3 J. o+ O( S4 m5 X% b( `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 N: @- W7 e( M/ X% c8 y. j

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( ?! d2 L" z% j5 G7 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 u# M! E- }! P# Y/ O/ @- p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! R  V, b4 O7 K

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., r4 x: v+ t: Y5 ]; S
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ Y/ d+ G& S% n; {  c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- _5 b6 s4 ]9 G1 p
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% A: q! {2 r- v- {- GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# x  x% C  Z; k0 H4 x, [
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 J( @. J( `) u' Y9 l; I! f
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 b2 b1 [7 w6 U  V0 M" f, R

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......