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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 h9 s0 t6 G3 n' v+ B4 U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 B0 e$ `6 S  _# D9 G

0 x! \8 R; }2 h/ ?8 h! O! V, W8 c! O) fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 _) t" S/ j  a' h+ ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 M/ b- m# X1 c2 Y/ U) |) D

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& F3 A0 D" P6 K5 y" U4 l7 G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* m& F0 T6 Z. T5 N0 k3 Z
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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2 X9 a: f( h9 s, ^" V- E7 I# _$ T) m) `see #22 Thus
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* j; M4 F" i- D+ M8 _8 a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 q$ l; C( s( E9 Y6 V4 G: W1 N軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# L) @& \* P; I/ K$ i- _6 Y: j" z
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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; t- l- \) f4 G, E7 q! J  o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 x" w( U5 A0 }: S2 @5 w- V6 {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% T: F% g( d3 k他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 s* c% z( d9 x

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) J9 [, U9 d$ C5 {2 P

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; [' P! E7 a3 F
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......