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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" J' N, A1 ]& \7 N& ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 R' @- o' l3 x# ^) ?, U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 [2 _5 N% \# y% B; s- RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# m2 `& f% P/ B0 i9 M+ B3 ~0 r4 l
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why?
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9 k# B. l; T: Q7 I* ~+ c* _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; [4 W, p" d0 P* {8 n- D

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; F& b- T  O( h! w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 u( n. ~4 a3 N+ a( _* K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 c, y' `1 n! o3 u9 F) Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......