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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( A* T  K0 L% \; t# z
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) r1 i4 l6 p7 {) t( Q( b4 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' |% ]. x$ N2 s3 u, C7 p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 t, ^/ b2 ~' J% B0 G6 IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?0 p+ ?1 U/ e/ @2 l/ Y' }; b: `$ H

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 L8 g2 i% V; A3 r; X

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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! K+ f7 ]8 K3 K* Q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- G: E, n2 X/ ?& R2 C: O

5 s0 X2 }! [' M+ @9 b* Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." j2 o* O; z$ E5 L; E
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 O' Y/ v) y# i. X, o0 T9 v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 \' n, i5 ^7 b: u+ Y
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 x, W* H9 \  m/ A! n

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3 @  d* d% G( u2 ^( @6 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 F- D* A. f9 |( b. }6 P" K' e
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......