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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 D" M6 {* l2 j7 ^

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) [0 t, y7 Y! OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# `3 \8 \) y) q5 q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 E1 F7 q* J8 E$ d: V# V- J( R

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 X4 J0 n: }+ X2 ^6 R3 O0 [

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0 I8 ~  I6 G9 }3 Y% q7 D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 P- W6 @/ U" i/ W% T  C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: [& f) ~: F2 o
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* ], @" z; q; V5 q" O% R

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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2 P0 w6 i) G; Z( f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 E9 @6 K5 w1 T1 n; E

5 U9 `! F* R8 [, byes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......