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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- s* c/ y6 R5 X8 j" x
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 _+ C/ g6 e" _* b

( |) A( p! \& X; lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 A; r# x5 B, {: d, u7 ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 P/ d9 b3 V3 g' W) K/ ^

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, l8 G9 S1 |: k' Y1 d$ S; m* i( X. k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ i8 t) s4 R' x2 _5 @
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why?
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7 z: c/ ^( s9 W- a+ G% l6 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 @) X0 s, v+ q: x7 y$ h* N# s
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 ?3 n7 R6 [. R- r
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 ~# J* B4 d% a# O9 Z" J, r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& {) S* E- i! M# s( _' x/ u8 qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- E) O4 Y2 B6 K8 @/ `

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! ], X9 |" f9 ?& T1 }, lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* k2 ]* w8 T9 l/ B4 A
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- G; c: S. |% C5 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; f8 V9 p% j& z6 O! N- [

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4 y% P) W: k" E9 n# ~) e9 s1 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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0 [' x1 i$ b) X% qyes, that's the point.

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