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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- t5 Y  R" t' v9 S5 I. s* G8 k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 B' i1 K8 F0 `" G

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0 l, d8 @# r( s& `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 P# w0 E7 L0 _3 x/ a' r
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& @. p2 f1 U: A其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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5 Q" o6 F: ^$ C; l' x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. @! O) c5 S0 G2 s! `: h" ~+ m
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ @& @" `% y& j" L; Y1 _3 Q' G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! c3 S; y1 T/ w# I0 LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ L% |, E1 L" O& }$ y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  Q/ d/ h3 b& Kyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......