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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 ]. n4 o  {5 W4 {, i; s$ D

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 l; X, a: B$ O4 ?1 j

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( X3 |; M  R( O  N2 c" d0 Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 f% N! t7 Q* ]$ F+ y

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* w* ]. w7 x' a8 A/ e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ J8 H  c( k) y1 T0 f, q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 A# C3 J! O8 S2 _0 A1 ?) l# {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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" m, r4 w/ U- s! ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; O: g. @1 `7 _& u3 I8 `3 g
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$ N4 X# ~3 n. @; Y0 ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- _8 d* |; K9 f* E  w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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