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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. F+ U! T" H# t0 `/ P

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; p* r8 `$ x% `- }4 Y0 O; \5 y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# V2 G% I. k. l; c5 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! y3 K# d. e& X; B0 J  ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" M, r, ^* g7 l1 ^  V) Y: g
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) {: z" \" H( K! E
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 V9 I7 ^: ^& B* r
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  _. _0 r! R) T4 N: W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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; W! {. r9 s& W+ o( l. I. dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' i: m$ E, e- Q4 y5 C" N5 Y# KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ q8 Y: Z5 ^+ b  f. S! J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 D3 O1 K, y1 W  R% {
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......