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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 {; _5 m' C( K4 }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- v2 s6 C6 L, p6 q8 ?! e% R! e7 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' u. H* ?3 u5 v9 l" C
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% H$ k4 l# k  \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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$ `8 A4 @+ y7 V% F9 A$ y+ g1 X; a3 e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# H, `: T& ], Y7 f/ s

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 r) C) |  e5 C/ }

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 N" C! _' Y- D1 z* `+ c$ O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( \" v' F. `; s6 P9 w* u; t9 @In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: p4 g( C* L* @! H5 W# m
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他比孔明更偉大

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% H' D$ @0 X' ]. L* m, j8 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! n& z" {( x% F4 i9 n1 M! h
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; c. b, C' p$ }( n3 R( z

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......