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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 L& ^7 f  D4 I9 g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. [4 ~1 E- _9 Z2 W
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 _" R3 E' n0 L* S

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: x7 m" ?! ~& j, Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- {5 f" k, N; C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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2 d. f7 ?7 D9 v, N4 N) X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 x8 ]) ]- G7 P( p, |
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 W! a9 V0 v7 S" h4 S0 d- y$ P
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ @2 f0 y3 l( S' b5 R6 }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, m/ i; r" S# z$ n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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3 v$ k) G* i' T2 `) {! [* F4 ]他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- s) \3 p5 R% C# i8 a1 n& O9 [1 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) z" l: z" t! Z' b+ [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- S* M- J6 W9 }* o0 m

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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6 `2 V& g' H0 W陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......