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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 X$ g& s5 x, E' E5 t

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ p' ]5 h( {# ?) m2 ]3 Y

; A* w8 o; J! Q1 [2 {# R2 jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) n: A9 i4 ?" V9 k- q8 j: ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., b5 G' {, p- d& D: v  V, |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 v/ z; M$ ?; p) q! k  ]3 j/ Z; F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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" x. G: Z% E- a( Z, ?& m! }  hsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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: \' B5 V4 \2 O& v/ l6 D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: `- [6 P) R/ c  s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ N% e6 {8 S+ {& j2 k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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# Q0 s% m2 P% xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; o: A* \, q& ~8 M5 p9 G; @, n
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# Q8 u7 d0 \. x  B) V2 CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% v5 p+ F  E4 ~. T) D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 m. w; a1 N; l3 s
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, N! A/ `/ R: b* o! U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ [5 o" ^5 G" F: U/ A4 P" Oyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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