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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 O" K+ t1 k7 i! V- P2 J( c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 L# v9 B) }2 q1 [1 _5 rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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/ w6 O5 R+ ^4 i: s1 t# `. c0 o; G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; k3 D( H: u. @$ s3 W
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see #22 Thus! y9 U. `5 H4 x: ]+ k& O- E/ x( A

0 J7 C. R  y5 X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 `4 y) M) m; B; S" r

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 L* \/ Z* C& \打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 |) f; {9 N5 [1 \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ g' C  x$ y. i: L

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4 b2 C# i6 j6 P% G* J3 AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- D+ r4 I# S; \( G

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 ?* [- G) w5 c) p% F/ |+ j' ^; n2 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. k% y6 f2 k+ n+ {  e' H7 k

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......