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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. G6 u* N2 F4 a
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, {! b+ G4 P, E5 k/ A! fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 B. s' I, y0 h# g) Z( ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' ~7 @6 G) d; X  g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) }9 L1 a. Q! v2 _6 ?: p2 i5 a* VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( W& e; s& J1 U- E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 j! J. a* E1 M3 D# K3 D

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ s! J9 q* ^6 s7 f* W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% s8 P8 y$ a: t! S" c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! I* l3 t+ r# Y. OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 Z' b- u) Z+ n/ rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 t& \4 I( }, T: s$ u; }4 H
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  {1 n2 e. H$ ^5 E. Z3 M; E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 |" j2 a* }4 ]! _7 I& g8 W* Y& d

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