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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 k$ ~9 }9 ~; Q* X$ Z  V9 |' e

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ n( c( R8 {# U8 u! ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 W+ {8 K$ @7 g8 x1 ?3 I' qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 d% ]# w3 q, S5 @  X

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) Y" \6 A/ I! Y: |' e8 s

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see #22 Thus: ~& j0 S. n* ~1 k0 h5 K) S& L0 Q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ l4 U' ]: N) l. I: w

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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) }/ V$ A, K% p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 Z! U! D/ c% D5 Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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- t6 L4 p( `& y7 ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- K% ]' P6 V" s0 {
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  }2 P7 c* ?, GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" P6 l7 c5 p' V" ^( C' A0 w
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......