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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 h$ f7 u2 n9 V$ b
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# e; u' V" [- I! l% j0 D: X* H% h% m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' U" p" p7 F* CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., S, k' g; a) {7 t4 U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( y! ?( H) a* v& |' N

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9 ^8 ?8 B/ I0 y/ B3 ^( t3 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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+ p4 s% X" U3 j. r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  c9 ^( D, k2 v6 Q# {+ w- \軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. M7 Y% n6 v+ s+ @+ x8 f0 ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. v& i( B: [  ^+ w0 W5 K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. e: H1 G: G6 X8 i4 B& xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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4 }) l( T& d( B  dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) c8 J$ S! ^7 c# U" d# }, C" hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......