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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  @4 I7 A5 ]2 Q! @

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# v8 F% X* e4 t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' F/ \4 l0 v: A- e' Y
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+ h' e9 L1 X# s, s# }: OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 w- J4 A  s$ j% }# I- I! k

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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  X* P( u% z& v1 ~9 ]3 z5 T  s  }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& d* b6 T. t5 O: I. ?. C

5 o- T; f- r4 L; v1 B" C5 a軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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( D& M$ d# Z& H$ R0 K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 _+ t2 ?' j' l8 E5 n. I- VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 R4 s% S7 e( k/ g, ]$ p' ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 [6 X" C! }& U3 F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: o" y; p1 v" B: s  ]

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: r% A9 P2 G0 ^4 iyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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