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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% e1 B0 G/ f* U9 h+ w
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; i- ~. {9 s# u. p! ?; e. C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- b% z" G2 K4 A0 K# m

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0 ]; O+ h! I! u" a9 g& TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 s' R$ ?3 h- |2 q) S* R* P& p5 p
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# u6 u$ ]$ ~9 U% `/ c! e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 P% f4 w% A8 y& o) m
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. l- F1 O1 _3 n1 H! t; M' f# q6 w
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  l( V0 u1 P/ Y  D

" A; O* \3 H4 y& Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 ]5 q# n) p. [% z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 z& V$ n" N5 a7 m+ z  Z  ^+ S5 R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 g" _# j) Y/ G2 T  {
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9 P1 C  {$ A( a4 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% k; ^) x6 [/ C8 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% W4 j: E& S2 u+ }9 e4 F7 _8 [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......