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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; |7 E: A: I- U

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

7 d9 ?; J! E+ sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 y' b# M0 Q! N9 \, E* F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ c* _: z  P- l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! y1 k! \3 R' j% l4 E. h; z

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! T3 T: D1 R% a) _1 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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! q6 d! Q, y4 Q" W6 `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 A& A- P" o* M/ u3 O. y* ~see #22 Thus
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  K. n$ K- u1 s9 A; u智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 V0 F' B' _/ H. }9 X軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 Z4 l$ G) B: m; h/ E- |7 J/ s/ I
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 k7 o' V& y$ x1 Y

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他比孔明更偉大

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8 f1 Q7 \( L( Y, h: u9 ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 `! ?8 e! f1 M
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& a6 X' w# M3 X6 eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 ]  Z9 T6 V' g/ d$ p4 }3 j

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2 E8 W' J8 M5 E& W# c. G# e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......