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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- N5 t0 R  d9 D/ q! `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus$ M5 }+ s" P; @

9 q# l% o7 ^8 Y1 w( O. }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- _8 r2 T. G9 I7 ~' m8 b" T$ n
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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2 f0 @; e4 m; K; x2 m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' t5 I9 p% S- ^* Y5 f% f/ zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 U' a5 t2 S) I( w

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 j" L- O! H8 Z, t. \6 g
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. o: U* Q/ l4 s6 l1 c7 M) ^
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 E/ ?  r. M% a# C8 E, K
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......