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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 p: h$ V# }8 d$ T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 |# u3 M9 \" s( g1 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! Q! v' `2 B$ @( W

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: @' g& a1 T4 P5 e4 W" L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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; h8 I0 Q2 \$ c, ^9 A5 x) H, D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ G; r/ _: L1 W) h7 D" H! J

! [$ N4 o# f2 H5 p0 a$ t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ @/ j" h6 W2 u5 ]8 n* f. {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. ^  f$ t! O4 H: M/ I5 e1 aIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- T' y7 g! V: w1 w9 M
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) A' b8 x& e/ F7 g" z9 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  H9 n( e( W4 X1 V) R0 {. b, O

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) ^9 Y+ V( e$ N
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yes, that's the point.

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