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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' F$ b7 A% H5 E# Y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 K( D$ v* T7 T7 E4 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 V6 Y3 ?" ~4 \9 o+ k) y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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# H- w# `& p6 X$ dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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# M  q: x, M- R5 h9 Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" m7 h9 r, U+ o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: Y0 J; r9 w+ c  i) u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ u- N. e0 {; U: G1 K9 R- j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 z; P5 }& a) f: j( `  r( _. I4 j9 [$ L
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  Z7 S5 _) {; M4 Y$ S! z2 q8 e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 n8 W+ }( L- F0 ~! X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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: p+ Q9 m% Z- P% M( a2 i/ oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- V7 j) B: k7 C" @$ m! H

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& x) F/ B- O5 x2 b9 S: J1 p
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yes, that's the point.

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