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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. j* H& d3 B  R9 L. l5 n2 M& I

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: L( H4 k3 C+ b& Q7 j

  A) U  J' t" F1 p4 L5 Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' l: h6 r4 p" c, V7 ?5 m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ O8 B# L- C4 T5 N0 ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus! @* d3 P' \' ~1 j! y

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! Z. M. z- L5 J5 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* I7 M8 e  n' L6 r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ t) n/ |& C3 W4 Z) D( {+ N$ u

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  s( r8 ~$ h" r& E# M. v/ ?& H- Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: N  b& ]6 e! I+ U7 |, I9 p
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......