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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- \' o( f$ ~0 E( z

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) A/ G4 ?0 F( ]3 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% r. p. D# r2 H# }: N

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$ \  q4 a; [* B  Q" g  L+ E4 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; s( x3 \4 ]' l# W
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- S6 O/ i/ {8 X! o* o1 E1 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 L' ]" S. B6 }, ?/ @see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 h2 {& q9 a" ?6 W2 v+ d$ X' x3 |
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 m7 y2 U" D+ ?5 N: V
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 Q! I  Y7 ?7 w4 w6 \9 K: z+ e* `# h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' H" J' l. ?# AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 Q0 W/ A5 n- C" y
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他比孔明更偉大

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. P/ j, S/ e7 \* e# B7 F9 I) ^9 ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) m1 {' l& X2 v5 t+ N/ ^6 ^

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) i) }4 |) E- `* W( C% r4 oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& \0 |3 j; B3 v( o) W5 p5 W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% w) m8 K9 @* L8 r

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......