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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 _" L- t9 x" Y5 Q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; r5 X! W5 T. \5 ]0 j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 |& v3 h$ K0 z. Q5 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 R9 I; C  Z( |9 `2 ~9 x' S8 c, b7 JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ V1 }# |* r0 B  @$ Y# s

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$ {1 k( \& Y( l+ e4 M6 @& a8 Y政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ }- c* E5 \$ |+ Q7 z5 K* B0 D: h  R/ m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  {6 r& a2 A/ D2 ?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  ]+ v: a* w7 I) E& G( y0 F9 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 y! @! `$ d# w0 H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 n4 f5 V1 s3 _- b+ H( Q- U: T! i
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......