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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 O" D; Q5 L* ^: U  c  P+ u
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. V; V/ @+ t+ ]3 g: w
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5 n; `/ o0 g2 _7 i9 F4 u5 ~3 x- S2 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 n! F" y$ u( @3 e, w* T" B- b

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see #22 Thus4 @/ d+ q7 u/ L( m3 M1 C) _- {

) }2 ]/ p+ j, d( Y: [# [8 \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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& Q* X) h  y; j7 ^! i1 v打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ N3 Z2 \: O  e+ N+ h5 K8 H6 |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# V  _# K0 D7 r3 D$ K2 j* r% O- T+ p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ D5 m+ A4 [9 T1 b0 J  P1 H7 \
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 D; r7 \  K5 G0 z  T

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6 I2 q) p" w: H9 C( w3 U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# w' z- T4 u' Z
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yes, that's the point.

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