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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* K' M7 n5 H8 k3 W0 z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; q* ^0 N6 @6 j& S9 b
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 s3 X3 C; {2 i' m! W8 E0 i: P
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( d0 L. i% a& p% GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% ?4 u0 ]- {7 Z; L2 Y

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$ c! \$ x5 H; P) j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; a# h" S4 [3 B8 i1 X  o" R
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. M8 Y' {/ [4 T( b  v) u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 v% p6 E. C8 k  o- L) @+ m4 \
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ a: t8 [$ |& K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' M6 b6 B6 {0 ^
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" s5 G+ m% k% g# JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, p% K& S$ @9 J6 \7 W
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2 @5 i# W5 N; M0 WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) ?$ O+ ?1 W  C) j1 e" ^, `

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# ~4 T, \# B+ }, C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! v, j; F- B  F& }# I2 t; o% ~
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yes, that's the point.

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