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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  c, J/ {: F/ q; Z4 K( M

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( C# ^; t. V' r2 ]3 D8 o# t) oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 j% n, a$ ~1 D3 K, b8 _. H
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. p. X- j4 b- j9 _0 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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2 [( s0 l% I! F; d; L' ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 w7 k) ^; n( M, Y: X! f0 s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: k, L) n: O1 _  o- W! y9 U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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! F7 [# S/ h0 M2 g' G+ |- L1 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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; p* {% D6 l2 s* |( ^4 B, EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 `+ i4 ^! i/ \+ L
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

7 C3 A  T/ t/ }yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 h1 k5 ^5 Y9 A, U0 f9 J1 \

3 u3 `: k  d. d/ A6 kyes, that's the point.

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6 o4 I: `1 E; v! E陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......