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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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! ], b: `/ c8 d) n7 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 R3 [+ ?' L+ u4 L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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7 X; C2 a7 L+ o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& C, R1 p/ q3 P0 j( G0 B% ~
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus- R' E  G# W9 X: M1 h2 m7 t! H2 E

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 @% o' a1 K: C
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( O: }4 F, ?$ ^/ h. i. \5 YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- Y/ A% a" e. B" E* {) W
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他比孔明更偉大

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' W& f  N9 w  @" _& jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 k: ^8 u1 o+ D( }0 u5 K8 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: t& y2 Y/ @9 s9 D' I; a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 E0 ]8 j- {) }8 M! d8 F
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 v( a1 o" x/ i8 Z1 r. O4 P2 f
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yes, that's the point.

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