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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* c6 o) o9 o2 o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, i0 m# {& P$ A' T

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$ {$ }5 B& V3 p2 R4 b7 F! nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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0 d+ ]+ @( b: [/ u  ?+ M% L6 b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 M! Y0 Q* A) Y

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 \5 I, \- h& }7 Y' n, v" G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. S" G* U( W" D: d* [+ A, _% |9 ^
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! P" }+ M8 [( \; s+ E5 L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  B$ M( j; O4 O9 eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* l! q" x. w1 Y) {3 `

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他比孔明更偉大

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) J& z9 M! V& I8 XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ C& ?  {% Q* ?8 [) G  y7 KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ o' G5 f. _' U8 I/ I' G. u' Y
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( Q! L1 k8 h0 H  o) h! E3 g

( ]. C3 ~6 i% q" A3 z; K" G+ u  vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......