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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, \, J) B  f& Z: h9 K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' I0 |0 s7 @1 `9 L/ ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 J- e7 T9 m2 @+ E" c! H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( r& r2 }; L& U6 W( k# q/ t7 f7 v3 p
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0 Q. _, N- y8 x4 d# [0 E# ?+ gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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7 k; @, }" b3 G' e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( w0 H3 b& `! m5 f1 A2 B
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 [# q# ?- j8 _+ X  J# p5 R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( q+ o  W% z+ J/ x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' Q6 X: U: _2 a0 _- V' V# M

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" N6 u8 ^0 ^4 B+ ^' H& sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' \" w3 M# F% B3 R% e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* u; E0 ~# |  Q9 l) b. w
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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# U1 M% H) ~$ \6 n8 H陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......