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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 C3 j1 I: t8 w
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., j; k1 b# q9 x5 X* k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( Z9 B& u( a% t  F! }1 N

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2 h  Q! w3 M' w* E7 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus# A# o; Q( [, }
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 |: v8 `0 L% p) k: w9 C
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 I' b% g( }* p  _% d! o6 j( V* W

* y0 C6 r# ]$ t打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; Q+ ~8 R0 w7 f" ]! V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 [  N: K" j, ?. E" u/ A6 b( gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 f7 z6 p9 ~% L! c3 w0 A9 l3 O

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( a1 f3 a& [6 l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; c# j+ u% c$ J4 b- _7 j/ A) g

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