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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" {! x7 L8 A1 c- d4 m

! f, u/ [  \* l* D: t/ lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 ?6 w5 p# O' ^: C, M5 dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! \8 A8 a8 b% A# X, L( }

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ V: i$ M4 n9 ?) T4 ?. ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># s5 N) y) U! h: U7 o; f& u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 B0 |, F2 R9 R. i2 j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" @- n4 b5 r1 D! \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! ^6 ]) I6 m; I# K- {2 I
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他比孔明更偉大

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3 K) ?; x4 H1 @. @* F4 T( ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ |' ^8 C" U0 g
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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5 ~& O- ]8 }3 E9 _  Y- h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, ^5 f8 b8 \" Q/ z4 e5 ^- z! M

3 T$ F& q% C" V  g1 E. @" qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......