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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  O3 h& C& N5 f4 B  ]% A# U0 s
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: d0 ?  l6 o" C4 Y2 Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! N* ^. x  t1 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 Z, O% D1 K! n5 L& W! \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) F+ e0 r) g6 O' y; e0 x6 x# \
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, D. a2 T& {! B; TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 e5 V: N8 M' y6 T, T* S- V: R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 x2 N5 b9 |9 t! u

6 k! |) q. W; v8 C' C5 I智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* |7 P  m" P- @1 f6 T3 Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 a; l' B) m. _( B" {9 E8 A$ g
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 i. e( b2 l% w0 R8 q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 W8 \) U( A5 X9 e) |7 hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 A: w; i# ]  i, }$ g

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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