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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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8 @" z; l+ l- ~3 A1 K7 M; L3 [: Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 b' S1 O9 x$ b$ o% [8 |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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4 i; G. o2 x3 w智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 E7 J! B& H+ ~. Y0 J軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 ?: v  o0 T7 s: q

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& I$ M6 P" O3 x+ q) P
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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$ c9 i5 x5 z6 K1 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, B- L( L8 s# N: F" n
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 ~3 t4 [# D% h3 B0 H2 ^) ^1 ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& W0 u3 ]2 X5 f  H1 W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, A% l. ^! j, h4 d' o4 D+ z, m

) N4 Z2 K8 d7 w2 o- v' }! }yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......