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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 E1 d4 h: l3 B( MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: v  d4 j7 ~* P$ @
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus# i; O' H3 w1 g* w4 T" L" C# o- B
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: k7 D# z% F+ ~4 L
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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$ e' R: U7 |( V5 ^- g. m8 A* N# `打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 @! r# ~% O; y# c! N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 M3 k8 j0 J' U1 G/ w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 S. {8 i/ R# u7 S$ y) P他比孔明更偉大

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# g4 [: v4 \* ~' c  B4 f$ {2 A1 r6 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 J+ J: g( P1 D. v1 U" K* i

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& o$ q0 c5 ]0 B. e. q2 _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. ]* K4 J: F0 N- _) J% R3 o+ j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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$ @4 {% ~) u) S' k陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......