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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! n2 a- H& T9 h) P
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* b/ {3 E( R. s' l) F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 J: e$ t9 R* L% |' M8 B' k' l! @9 H/ uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 @! P9 l& F- }1 X6 [9 R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ y1 y0 m1 n4 x$ c$ q3 v0 R; }/ ^see #22 Thus5 b2 m2 J7 d( s, p( P+ W

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; i$ ?5 T7 E" l& ?. @

( H& g' b9 m5 R) n$ M# Z7 x4 M打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% l$ e9 E/ |# ]! ~$ pIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 h. J" `8 `' v* H! e9 o0 T+ IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! {2 X/ Z* b* u% }, E* A- E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: e8 O7 A: Q' Q6 C8 y

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$ f1 R$ n) |1 X" T& K6 Q  h陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......