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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# T% i6 S4 R! b9 [( [
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ d/ V$ G2 m9 ]9 n( o4 ]! A

8 O' y/ m! J6 f) Cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ W8 ~( {2 M7 ^/ e

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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6 b' z3 B) X3 ^' `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& Q: Q5 ~$ u2 R  f  d3 ?# Fsee #22 Thus
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. e' A; s5 B$ z& q, b5 j智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ G! Q1 z# d8 J
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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% }3 b: O( v) t8 L0 `7 ]" R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 w7 n0 ^5 }! D4 b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 `+ M) ?9 \3 h! y# ?  o$ H! eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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" h) D' ^9 s6 w$ A* c; V3 u7 M4 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# _. M7 k8 X  C9 p$ @

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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) `2 ^( \. S! K  X! h4 ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 M! l# n& V, N

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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% b; l6 \0 m7 [/ Dyes, that's the point.

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0 S- _' u+ Y( A4 ~9 |2 b! p陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......