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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 {# D  g6 p( `& N8 q3 x- l

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, U3 T% F- O  _, @

/ z6 g, ^7 g, w, ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 s2 ?) t+ N7 ~$ z) ~# _5 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( U) F( O( `1 o# u. f/ H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 T8 F1 w2 j7 n; m8 H8 H  K9 c
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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8 n2 [6 V9 b0 w: o& C; |9 ]% N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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1 h4 }$ h0 N+ h% Xwhy?
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% a: r4 }1 c% L' m5 |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# ~( \* Q$ s3 ]) isee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 a% I0 V4 }8 ~; W2 P$ L  K

; K' {$ R, _9 L% q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 @" S% f5 R, D# U5 T/ U
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ f" W6 h! U+ W1 ~9 c8 P6 E, B/ z3 ~" I

/ }( _9 o- H. s3 A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- y; i3 `, Q' f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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3 U3 f2 ~; X1 L3 w6 J% ^( d9 V他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) o( x  E8 t* G  w( w3 H
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 U* M$ ~1 e2 n+ `
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, ?! C7 d6 @! e  n' lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 a( |; ~1 p! G/ x% t$ T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 H) `' ~) d* x5 J1 W

+ q( C% m+ S( c; lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......