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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- i2 N  s& `; U3 O! r7 S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- w: u. A! _1 ]3 O+ |3 B0 R. f  d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' F3 D3 f  o* `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* @) V9 j& A7 F! K+ _0 F
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see #22 Thus
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: B9 }# H' |) X" o: r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- R3 `9 F+ w- u2 \, q! P9 c
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- j, l8 g" G' F1 ~
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ x! Y9 o  p& m& k& V. R4 k/ {

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( d0 f4 I( m8 o. C2 r" k$ VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 W# s0 s( O1 k! K; d8 ?

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: v' W& D% K! [" A* b2 p- O9 ~& j

% Q) o, a% S! h- o$ x2 cyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......