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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, G0 f" T4 `* y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  [0 a+ ]& V; P. A& M2 E1 {3 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ P* \/ W+ E! _% f, l* i( {% V$ j
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# l2 M: z$ w, @7 ^3 e! c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& B% g# T8 b& ~! p  D/ q& {

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& o: @$ ^: R6 m4 u" _" K4 {! `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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  q/ m) d3 O( A8 T; n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 m0 }, u( @+ A4 O. ?( y+ b

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  X, N6 g6 ]9 V8 N/ w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# {# \* C7 o2 Z* V6 @# P7 uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( y+ Y5 Q$ L6 G9 W0 c/ {5 ?

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 m4 m; S0 [( j; w3 w) e
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yes, that's the point.

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