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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' L9 K# Q4 p! a5 q& h! M! k

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4 k) @! {5 U# p5 O* h7 [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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+ Q9 ^/ y& E6 U. J' Cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 i' v7 O- L/ I/ C" L' Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; K2 `; M% ?, j; ?( `. t2 m- R

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 e" K4 l2 ^8 B) q$ c( `

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( A2 c* _$ L' m* u; S- v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 |( p9 N) l( t5 I
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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; [& I$ `' s4 o% ^! g9 o5 H  e$ V, n3 O政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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+ d# D# j8 p4 s3 L& _4 z& d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 }4 T! Q7 r4 b. Y4 e
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% R* q% P- I' v& h, ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% J  ^& G0 e3 ~! P6 O8 l- LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: \% B; z2 X& G4 F9 F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! J$ |' O- L- N; `/ U" Q. f6 \
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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