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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: B' Z# f2 x; H, A+ E7 ~
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% T2 J0 F; j, u: P) a7 bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- P% _1 h, C( V1 M5 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: \, l/ F/ {9 v2 c

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 X: X1 F/ O+ ?- K! f+ g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 U( \  f- x: u$ T# |6 tsee #22 Thus  U; n: Q9 A% P& m7 e
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" h/ [! N5 f0 G6 @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 `- g4 m1 ?) ]3 c% b( ^

: s! X8 d6 D/ e; n0 a  g1 ~) ^打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 D* x2 i+ D9 Z# v: \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 I  X) l5 m- M; z3 N# N7 }6 eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 p2 L/ [* l! k5 r- }+ _! a他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ U0 _9 M; h6 A! S0 c
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他比孔明更偉大

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. k0 b) V2 E" v* O3 n1 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( ^) C2 Q' ~, x) N: f  n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ i- \5 U+ Q' Q

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......