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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) p8 A5 V* s9 o" u2 `/ f' D5 O* V
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 l( z+ n. R& G! l$ Q; S0 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ P" [* ]6 s2 K$ o* o( n# ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  v5 ?/ R7 \3 C! {4 Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- n! C" c# h8 U+ r# ^7 K7 u) t

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9 S" v/ K: h5 m3 j4 h' F0 f, d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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2 e) a6 m5 B* }+ E; t! {4 A* ]: }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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1 E7 `' [. t, m( _. w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 H* Q) a% R8 p2 m3 a1 R% k( ]

1 \7 r9 T/ b5 t6 g3 k2 E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% F/ f& P! {3 a3 s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* _4 e3 q. z2 f2 F& G1 tIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! X/ o/ }- I; `, ^3 q* w& T1 P9 H: ~他比孔明更偉大

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2 F/ o9 H4 ~8 ?, h0 ]8 _# n  aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* \6 O! l7 U/ M+ X1 G  u0 c1 |
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, c; [* V3 Z5 D3 [6 j0 E) P8 x: K
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" N1 I9 P1 Q. M2 a8 C/ e' C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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" A; c! `. g* r1 yyes, that's the point.

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