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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 H6 t4 q! U8 ?) U9 S0 x

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: W# ~& S" D. a# m- L9 f
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% `& O( r6 S: z0 Z1 h( x) C

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 O2 C( g/ q4 L; D, E- Gsee #22 Thus- u( L; J) J3 p% ^" w

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." n2 [8 c. |: E0 w) U8 K3 D* w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 U2 P: R) z6 Y3 v9 c. {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 H3 |8 F0 M( w9 ^/ W2 V
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7 X2 V  M( Y* ~7 MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 O$ f0 N- G" W& X5 l3 G: w

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  F5 A. U6 C$ q+ jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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