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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; F$ [5 e, b5 y1 j2 c* N. u  s

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) ?; w/ n2 u9 h+ W3 F) j

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( z6 Q5 f; f. M# Z9 rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 _0 S6 n2 K: N/ ^7 f8 C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 S  W& x6 r' g& K7 W/ J6 d

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why?
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4 y# h9 k6 `; S3 ]2 A" K  ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus& O% U& C+ Z$ K# K& o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& E2 r% w+ Q4 w* t

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 N2 p- x7 ~, r  R" l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ Z) R' }! h1 xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 _% I7 k) v! F; e. t& n  R
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( P1 a! F! C* UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 p+ K9 f) L4 P0 f) Z3 Y

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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% ~% F; j5 B/ _, ~9 D! N9 q; m+ W" C4 O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 q" h/ i' o  |& H1 U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

5 P6 h; }! ?9 s0 Oyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 f9 r4 _1 }  \* Q4 c1 \: D7 z
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yes, that's the point.

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