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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" w: I/ i* a/ h( s$ Y! [

* |+ V/ y% Y: ~( Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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0 O4 t% }& R: [7 g/ K3 W7 W9 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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, J; b# h: I( R8 v. x: `) Y/ Q+ ?% P其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, Y# {' v5 }. j
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" x4 \) z3 n: [/ b. n
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* J5 b9 e! R* ?5 I6 [
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) F' V3 \/ h! u  T# S4 D
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' d; M7 e0 a2 i* |; B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& z: X3 P) X- V0 g

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他比孔明更偉大

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: v" g+ Z- E9 Q. l0 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" U7 I3 n# E* x: g# Y. ?( {" w3 T
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 i& T& Q2 P" v; r; v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) e" O. I  \# G3 E/ C# B# x7 }3 a

  }! t2 N0 R) L/ h+ Xyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......