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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, ~3 f0 t5 R5 L% |! U7 z

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% Y6 @# V# w2 j& L! L# c' o

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 c$ N, C; y! j+ ]! B9 R/ x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 R7 `4 @% m, d
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/ K& I3 @0 c2 tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" `& v" k- u% i3 L  O; h0 s# [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 m; |9 H* O7 ?4 P& ]

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9 N) [( x9 N1 D5 D. A* b, x1 }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ l+ q6 L8 d' F0 [see #22 Thus
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) f) j- l  t3 o+ W) @) t( {, U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ e. v) h+ Z( Z4 k$ N

+ ~; F# U6 v( V  t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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4 A; h% e) y2 M8 o. R  l0 y, O  ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! i1 W  U! O( {% J# q* u- u% n) K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# @! |/ T7 ~; z3 h3 e  r( C! ?  AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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  I; J) k' z, o$ l他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ f9 U6 V" x( [/ @# i( cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 p- }8 x1 X. n5 s' C2 D7 R
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ F2 k4 t0 L' K" q, q+ Qyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......