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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( D0 I8 ?) O" Q8 {# ~  I5 `- K7 D
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# {' H# u/ V" c: M3 I3 @$ S9 a; bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 K  t, j3 b! v: L1 j' x# r5 M
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" ~" Q6 ^9 b; m7 b) [2 y( k2 |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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6 v: `% V9 ^+ G5 I* L1 ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 k' K7 C' U, l; F軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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$ `  Y- J/ n$ C/ t1 w政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" D( w4 E( B' f; J& C6 v1 t1 V' WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 X, Z! J" F. q6 X; X
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......