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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) S% T) A1 [* A! ?# h* K0 j7 dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' Y( k+ D+ O& w6 O8 O4 M) k2 [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- u/ m1 r6 \; @/ `. p5 K# j
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 _/ @  {1 h' p% i5 i! z2 c

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" k! J& ?9 N0 \2 f. `) r
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; r# _+ K' i/ l- H$ \; a

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 v! B5 U# ~5 @% YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) L$ |% c9 M+ }

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3 P' U' v: N' p, v5 o* E1 DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; t- r" j& x: }4 ?: Z- x1 S
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......