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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) Z- [. Q& Y$ @. O3 v  d, E
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: H! f, m0 }7 [* R
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: m0 e; r1 G7 t/ _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, W# D9 G) M" O! H- X/ ?5 y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( C2 N$ _6 M% @& Asee #22 Thus
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4 K, A( ?; A  Q( W7 N軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 y5 N1 h# S" ?8 Q0 o打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 }; T( Y3 `4 I2 ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# a' R8 M' R3 R1 H( i0 x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  e- `( D' p1 D2 c  w. F  [0 A& A
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2 h$ B* _. d. TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ G2 I: Q  x; R9 s- Q
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4 B7 c( b6 c! Z. s; }! A; bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 S  V0 n2 @, C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) G, S2 ~/ b1 t8 R, q* s- H0 `6 R

% o9 u( @2 z7 [3 j7 O$ Hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......