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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 V& L6 F( M! D) x4 G3 `

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; {% ^+ P% y9 F, P7 M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 U& W7 o& p7 k" |7 X  Y5 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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2 r; ~8 s; x- r/ y* d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus. B: f4 |$ [3 j2 s

! ]/ [: J' T+ l5 g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 o: ~2 q1 F- {, S+ v4 |1 M7 o

9 o# v0 f7 G' |! }7 z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  _0 ]) s8 P- c9 d/ t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, l& H: a/ e# ~; E( W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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; y9 Y! L- \7 u/ q' [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 k7 m" i- |: RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ m3 Y5 G. I2 ^( U. w3 V2 f

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% ]: h2 h  n$ C  ?

$ w( {0 O9 B9 [# [3 o2 _yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......