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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ c5 j: @, c8 o+ L4 @" G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. ^' v9 a6 g3 H. t* u3 ]9 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( \1 t% W& m# B3 t* v. ~: ^0 V
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' m+ |0 O: {3 ]+ B( \1 t

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why?
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3 D0 X  |" g4 o% f7 {0 J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; [- z* z* @4 K; i. k% ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' [* o" H0 F2 M. O# ^: `$ V軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 B; I, Q- `0 x! R* Q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 _& a/ g$ t5 M% V- ?+ w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: ]. C- |3 g5 S! |8 q( xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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& j4 j6 O+ u# E7 Y% f# bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 Y. s0 S* c3 ~" n2 R) f7 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! n- J7 ?" H# q) }7 s

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* R6 g5 C) r( W2 u7 n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- m# _) k- q0 }% _1 ^. ?* ~& |9 r

4 U0 A% v" o/ Q3 byes, that's the point.

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