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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 s' I/ q/ e5 H- h' E3 x/ C

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 E' Y7 c2 ?0 j2 ]but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* Q) N. }2 U; i8 n( C: _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 n% e! J# ?# @. P2 a1 A5 F

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) }; M2 Q% h! c  Y3 iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 p5 B, ^5 \7 X
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: V) V# N$ f# I9 F5 F  Z: E7 p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 V$ r' E+ q7 e5 |8 D/ x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( e; v; b8 G0 X' Z4 D9 f, t

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他比孔明更偉大

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" U, }3 t/ u8 C2 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" g% |& F3 p2 m! P' g; v8 t. B! {, a

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' I" C1 I3 t9 L, {% t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' Z3 N2 L0 C5 K" p. F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, u$ u; y; }3 @6 z

" Q3 ]5 m$ D8 ^  c( uyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......