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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# M% |# p9 n  C2 I! x

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  U+ J  g$ }2 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ E7 s0 K& u8 i0 @' {2 S
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 i; \* Y6 ?* i6 I. J
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why?
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; K: J) u3 V  d' ?- ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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! A; a* c8 B, J. t8 g' J智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 L9 f" q/ ^5 p. C% p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% n2 y' [1 S2 G5 i: X

! G6 g/ Z* c8 ]! z: A9 ^( N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& @9 k6 T' h6 Z- o9 T1 e5 ?4 q$ J

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+ d- ]9 Z' _6 d. M% {/ HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 z5 {& j8 V: E3 k0 C* p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! v7 h$ A/ G6 {) Z

3 ~5 r+ j$ S+ xyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......