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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) N0 P/ u  j2 |

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 }, X3 [: J3 R. B4 I+ lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 ]$ O& B/ C8 {7 w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ ~- ?$ i# l+ l( W$ m3 M: E- [

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# f8 i4 [1 z$ k6 H0 b

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. Z. ?, n6 r8 y+ B- A5 k
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, Y7 x* u- j9 P- v1 Y8 q, C

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7 g# {! _6 b: O$ g6 ^; u9 {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- U) F# r+ g7 K: h, I" e* ?  Y
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 D7 r; E6 A0 j- r9 r9 W& C* l
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 q# b; s6 E; T4 `

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: ~; [: B, S& p3 d; r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ O  Q# V8 G; a" G0 z

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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7 H( G5 @3 }5 Tyes, that's the point.

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