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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  D9 J- A0 `9 t

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* l% p* ~8 J: P$ [
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, \# w* G9 Y1 c& k4 k/ a3 V$ cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; m$ M2 t6 Q) C& l, v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# @+ C! F. n: C7 j: r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 U8 n- n- ?( F9 [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" ]& Y# x6 {* F# B! B軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ ?) Z8 T' W/ z+ S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* M! P" T9 `" n! t+ Z& oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ g' P6 s8 D9 D2 w8 _5 o

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) z9 h& h- A6 x# b3 l, c' k
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 Y1 [; h0 a% {7 I/ F7 wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......