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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  @, i+ f2 N8 A/ ~& s# JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* \3 E5 \* X! {7 H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 K9 H4 }& h" J* b2 r+ q3 CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ n  j0 M7 N! V; `- g2 }
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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( {  m/ p( T# }, R軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" H/ e! C9 l# p( h; _+ ^* b! x) j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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( }+ E1 b+ ~5 `& t9 B7 ^0 ^打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 {$ M/ K) G" J$ @* C, _) D7 Q& w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- I" _, f3 i8 n, R) j1 y6 X" X% xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 x# `) ^0 g5 s) ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 f6 ^" T4 `7 u& D: W6 [, B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( ]- Y1 I- p+ I* Y! x  J
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yes, that's the point.

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