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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 [: `$ J4 h) t! O6 D3 D. f
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  P& \, }1 Q  C+ uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' k8 O6 c. p8 g; A4 m8 I7 p8 p' t8 E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ Q, A/ X( H- f5 q; c) P  V
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( w  H; V$ u+ ~& G8 h: QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) B( M- e9 M1 o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; _2 ^' T) ~9 R7 v1 f+ V8 D- Ssee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 q4 H5 I9 ?  J4 O. L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# ^1 Y, J# m/ D5 `: v0 w8 ~- m0 }In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- @9 a% r9 S( i1 H) N% e9 q
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+ I* A/ |2 u" Z; K; _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% X) R! O2 h7 z! G  {! W4 i1 y

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& g6 \; m7 e/ x6 K* X# I# y  n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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. z# g% d! ], S# |0 r2 uyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......