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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: V+ L% Y; ~& F6 `7 u/ J
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  V0 d' ~& N8 @+ i2 Y7 c, Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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6 n: O' G5 ?5 H" h" M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. t4 i' I0 j! `see #22 Thus
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. W- E0 k0 T0 W: L, L# l% |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 q2 w: x  _) ], L" x' u6 c
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  f6 v8 F! Z0 u# B4 G/ O

) Y; I% y, T+ D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; T5 r6 |$ m, P. E4 [" m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( D7 b% V) ~6 i! B/ ?$ ?0 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 y0 ^6 ]. e) U$ o4 s1 Z
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他比孔明更偉大

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* a! ?" p, t  b; O) HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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0 a' Q9 v& }# b5 kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  M: H9 e( j3 A8 V$ \yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......