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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 t& G2 \- `! M* n* m

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1 a8 E8 R% ]  q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 b) T: `4 Z( l# q3 q3 V- D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" ~6 ]9 k' \; M0 ~) J0 y% k2 Y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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, p- |/ M1 g% A& E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; U7 v& p: _: I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ k' a4 c( m: [8 r7 x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  O- c- `, K& W/ j6 [
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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