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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ G1 k8 d3 z# f& j; f( U

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: [8 R* Y) L) a) h% r1 W% h) JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( P7 Y" E- T+ @3 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 C& o$ T7 i& i* C
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, M$ v1 }5 x) w7 I
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) F1 j# Z* p" ~6 t. s
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! H6 A' h. F0 J$ v2 T4 Z' E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 q8 |2 r+ F7 {  o! u' I; zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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* w2 y$ a3 M/ c3 \; OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 T+ K5 _1 g  [/ t3 Q8 `- J
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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! ]- {/ t; f5 w! z$ I8 T陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......