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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: M4 P3 ]/ T9 g/ b, o
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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! i$ Z5 Y! N" r  O$ hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% P- C- L7 g6 K: d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' R' p' P. C' o* X
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' B6 l) [, R$ A3 ?1 {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 G! L& ^3 b6 w+ [: U0 O9 K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' [# I, x. j5 u3 M
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 g4 X1 A& p$ R; a& ]& ?8 Q- }

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" m1 J7 T4 g# F% @4 I+ o* o7 B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 [  w/ t2 O1 ]% x/ x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- i& b! y6 e/ N4 Z5 Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 p9 V3 G, ~  G0 vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, Q% |3 |& n# p) c3 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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; H: H* o8 r9 u( H. O2 i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: k, k: E! Z  X/ _; ?% _

7 }( L3 T+ g  \* ~5 Tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......