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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' q( H1 O) f, f0 N9 I' ^

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- i( \( w# p/ Y. ?2 Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 D+ `: D" L5 \8 L) r+ e' t1 V  K2 P6 \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- @1 i3 \' z: ?2 c& n

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+ R# e$ r9 `. g$ M; G8 A! aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 y2 c/ n6 `) W. j+ g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  v6 b0 o' g0 I+ b8 J# t2 L
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ C" Z0 c  ^( P  P" K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" G& h* g) R+ m7 u  E& ?# [) IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  x& s+ H6 [# m9 k2 t$ Tyes, that's the point.

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