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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 `' i# Z0 N" M/ c8 T
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

. b0 K* b; ]4 q" mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% c0 w1 a4 q+ t9 z# i3 B1 S4 ]

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1 i8 `' @$ i, y, v9 g, I& IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& }0 V  J7 s' i( i0 `; I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% e1 |, B, d0 F/ N& d) n$ Z
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 ]# }: ~3 U; B7 b1 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 J, P" t5 c! M8 Y  V

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! {7 [2 F5 z8 Y% {! j" x/ A6 k4 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 z8 A& a4 ]! b7 |2 N* t4 y5 s2 i
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 I8 O0 Q+ F0 Z  w- g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% x( N4 Z9 Q) a( Q$ v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 s* I) P; }# j0 j4 k
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ ~* [  E4 X' P4 C

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 w# ^! a! U4 t; z0 b. d
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......