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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# f- u( `" Z/ A0 }& |
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# L# g/ i& ]+ ^2 w4 G8 F" {0 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 E9 B4 @3 h" b$ k+ e* f0 H6 }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ }5 q) U0 V; W8 ]' z. N/ {( R

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 f( c: E3 X- T( o; d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( c, g; D7 N5 X
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 B9 S, O* E8 k! o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ E8 l) ?* w* S
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' U5 o: e' D+ E7 T& G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' G4 ^2 A" ^" K2 h' N4 F
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 L/ i9 p: h& R; V+ l/ l

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( f4 [5 j6 {; b+ e+ U* X; B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ C, I' _9 C4 x( Q. z$ Q

  C2 {! ~6 C) w, m, V8 nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......