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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 B3 l2 e' w  Y( q* j' obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ I& C& q& @0 g5 K( F( Z5 x$ `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- A9 b% h. P# ^0 j! ~, V+ ]) {

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! v- R' @. @/ hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 |+ }' Z+ |" i2 F; G5 d' c% G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 L) F, @3 F* p! R; d: ^+ xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 r: s0 u9 B2 V, ~* o9 U, x" M
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 E; d7 g5 w; Q* ?( j, C% h' R2 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ J* {9 u$ Q: c( W6 o

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2 o+ ?2 k! u; W& j# @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- e9 e$ ~( m7 w6 q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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