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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 F, J. m3 F/ [% }7 U6 S# ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, c6 {+ z4 Y# _. B8 @$ Q$ H
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  `& N7 c8 O, l5 z2 ^, F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ I% s: X0 a4 ^/ E/ a2 \9 [+ \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 g/ F& |6 g4 b; i, |* r4 o4 I

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" e2 A, z5 \( ^! q- p1 Y6 D4 K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 [) m# T, s* `/ [
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( m( p; I# z& Y

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 H7 c* }" r- r, G! e/ G1 f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 S; c( r' i2 z8 w$ A) O, n8 k
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 W8 M8 N6 ?  HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 L/ ]! `3 U2 `6 |1 B) D/ S6 L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; Z. o" X+ \! R- H1 f

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

9 |; v, _) I3 \* y* [yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......