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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 t( S. ^  K: T7 M1 \0 Z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# f: z9 z; d8 B2 e4 {4 d  O
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 n' P/ W# E2 KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 O+ q' w% U4 ^* ?, C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- }- f2 W( q  N$ V* H: f

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, D- t( U/ }. @9 @
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) A# a$ n8 w+ `* `: V5 X) P2 Bsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 i. q1 N( S- d: [& `5 e" L, V

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 \* }- _1 X; O! o: M" Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 q( w. m5 V) c( N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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/ g4 {- q5 J. M$ p6 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' D, l8 _0 o5 Z" Y) E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 v3 j9 `/ p/ T7 w- Eyes, that's the point.

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