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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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4 `- {! p4 ?: C6 R$ B$ S2 \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) i6 F5 }4 Z5 p9 q7 |( f2 o" B! Q- G
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8 f* J: Q5 U$ F; P$ ?% i( [9 e# GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?: N" ]4 ?/ d+ k- e$ o. t

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: E# @& s$ V1 E4 R. T- X0 I7 ?

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6 |" y4 S$ r* f" L/ l! B* Gwhy?
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" u8 G( x/ B1 a: q/ @7 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., S# ]2 F* E1 r& m

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 F) W2 T- U/ b5 l2 @+ K& V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 {- U6 c4 l2 Q% Q8 \1 e/ TIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; O: x4 }% I5 B/ [0 v. q5 \

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ M! e( @+ Z' V$ b. l+ r4 N( p
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ ?3 w5 R- s: d6 d- _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( \% m% H7 h7 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......