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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 a) v6 ]5 l, h. m) w  B3 O4 o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  E6 M" |/ S- F$ m, ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* J1 w1 x! K' |. |' z, G* c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 i0 F2 `( `9 h; Y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 a! k9 d9 @6 d& {

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% a8 r4 q# o5 X. M7 \( N( V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" H9 i5 Q$ \: M( I9 k$ ]
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 I; I  B' i2 a  v
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 z4 u! }% u) P7 |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: ^3 C: M  \! u. @

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他比孔明更偉大

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2 D3 F  a) w% Q, U$ v; Y: x! QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% @$ O" R- G; V; X! r5 S9 @3 b( L( h3 r

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4 s; f0 Y- k# T# t2 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; T1 O) h. `9 `& G3 H% P* L1 M

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......