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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  }. D* q  [3 T! z9 _3 ~( w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 s: |4 Q& m( Y0 S7 X+ E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># c, w2 }# ]& Q1 G0 ]; z. ?3 \1 P1 S
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 h. z, p, v. |. G' u, O- z5 }

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) {6 |$ _/ _2 j" v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' w) @) R, I1 C0 |3 K5 UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ }) {3 _* ^4 `* Z8 q6 `

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他比孔明更偉大

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, M$ l  Q! \) xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 k/ n* S0 u# o" X) o; v; l/ x

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) m* \0 X1 [1 ?1 W; T* S' hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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! e) v) A* N! Z; S! R' C/ @, t$ S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' U7 L6 O% ~( [( r' E
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! l. i% G3 E% K1 J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 z, t, W: t- X. ~

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......