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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, \+ |! C1 q. O3 `% O
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) p7 ]3 p: f3 c% v* X! ~5 j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( I* \4 b  i2 u" L- n: L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! t% c7 j- P) U4 x$ P- o5 v1 T

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 `% W3 H" T- n1 t& u5 ^

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; t+ W, |& k8 q# W% q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 f" d5 p; H# b3 H. q! }; M

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ G  [% P* u5 g3 K2 V$ S
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 u+ ]6 d: ?# A9 }9 L

$ K" c$ g* [/ n6 m9 V) y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! {: O; H  B9 \5 D+ V/ R) r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 r) e  \5 ^+ [6 l' K; d$ CIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 `8 \$ S* B6 \3 Q5 A

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8 K. |7 V. H- |' J' sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 f* F3 W" n" L) e6 Q
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# ^9 S" A; V* C! B( x& {* nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......