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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" B4 i% l8 t! F" h3 X! oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:5 p# O0 Y9 a, Q$ ]# W# ~- v

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 q' x- o- C6 I$ m% d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- j# {: L) y6 w& k2 Z# E
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus% e- ~' g) M7 s- {0 S3 R' i# R2 G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 K; O# z  s' p6 l
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details./ M( n* ~% z' n4 D: y; x* \

$ V/ J+ t0 n. ]  w$ d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) }8 p' J- d+ \
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ \( T: D4 u7 ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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5 |6 B: {- k, r1 T他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# d6 ^  P+ N$ v3 vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 J# [" i" w) i1 y6 u

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ A* N# M" S0 i

$ w& x- B" I; C9 b7 Kyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......