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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 K8 z- }5 B# ~8 c* d" {& K2 c
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ y- X3 s; a. t/ x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 s4 E9 G8 \/ I5 M0 P

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1 \% ~: D1 h5 i' @- |( M" nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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9 h; l1 W! K# n) i+ w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ e' g6 X* r4 K' k

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." v# s4 z7 [9 y1 m( s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' U8 [1 a" E/ E# H# }. AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% b& w; }; R) i/ B! K5 _
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' q$ P! m$ ^. A. C3 T( r

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" I. ^2 [+ w" g0 _% c% h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& O% m9 w- a: O; K7 h

) F# q0 @/ {4 Gyes, that's the point.

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( C3 k6 C/ u% `; J+ {+ \. E陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......