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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 J7 Q2 Z. y# L) c* L0 a  N

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3 j- b( H- \' x5 Z# NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% J0 P; r6 z4 `6 N: _1 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 r: [: E6 v6 C

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" {' K% d% V2 l2 b# h% F3 c. sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 K* T( x# p* E
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  F; Q( g. ]$ p+ j% [' N' z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% i& {1 j8 d8 R) f0 ^

4 y" \* H  I/ Y- e7 v7 f$ l/ h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# T- ]4 s, C( V$ ^8 p5 c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 f3 K- d) D$ O/ u( K& V1 d) RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ I/ V5 w7 A; o0 C+ y$ ?. M2 x5 n% x
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 x5 m: q5 O& l1 M5 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' `" n- \2 F8 ^' M  g& F1 B; @- {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  i7 K* C1 ~+ @! ]& pyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......