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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' e9 s$ j  z7 n

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3 {2 ^' Y# l7 g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# s. w: V# T' x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& Z! @( X& \- I1 Y& l; z/ XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  K' ^) O7 ^/ f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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) l3 m6 T7 L% v$ C7 h智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 D- ?( \3 Q+ m8 V* W' r% q7 y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& P0 M: @% b$ {

4 |' w4 [, h9 ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  _+ ]0 {9 v5 D) B9 J+ P8 j7 B8 K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 k5 ?# l, v3 B  j' t0 [

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) O, E0 b. l! M, B: w! {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' r" w1 I  z) O* y+ c. s1 y

" P( I5 N+ J2 G7 k3 myes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......