151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
; N/ s' x9 l. ^' @
$ W. X, k7 N; f$ `9 z4 z+ T' @( Z% ?' B2 q6 o) o9 z
智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

9 g! k) G. W8 T+ w8 r* p
but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
3 I9 o: l- V  v4 {. ~8 \  n; \; r  |" x; p* a- a3 J9 L
but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

  J1 M2 N2 w6 C
/ p! Y: v+ ~. {" L; XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( o0 \% q0 f+ i6 _7 d
, L7 k, [- B0 S$ \5 T- e- n
[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
! ]; _0 C% b+ D, }2 e# q
7 y. W6 N. f- L# q/ V
9 B  E, V0 n" _6 W+ zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

! Y% n& M+ T* ]& Y% ]

8 J4 E- S! y7 M  Y8 fwhy?8 [. x- l7 J  x! P. M. M

" @" S# d! @( b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
2 f! l$ ?. G" k, A4 U8 P
. F6 n& |4 ?$ k
: l! \# a) g! H, p0 Y" H& Jwhy?9 F( j3 o2 r* l; i+ @5 p8 H
+ @; G4 f* Z' |& {# I
其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

- H# K4 j+ B1 r8 g4 W

; W+ h, C1 K: Y9 M1 Nsee #22 Thus
7 K/ N" \* d' M/ [; _, e# p! `/ [! f2 g: l0 q
智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
$ t/ m# g( Q/ c( Z- a! J  ~" l$ C% @
軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 j- ^5 e3 A- w* G( d6 m

' M& H7 w% c3 b8 o( m$ v6 ?) l政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: ?3 ?/ x6 Q: e

; `' z7 d. N& O0 |. i2 Q2 e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 `4 M& l3 T, o3 O' |

& N8 Z* m& Y4 t% r" M[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 R, p" v4 m6 o- zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

+ P: k) j8 o7 |+ Y
+ z( C, R& f( p& o4 u* P, ^他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
& U7 Y7 [* x. ^+ `" Y. e1 ]7 G1 n
* i: ~) v2 Q1 Y
他比孔明更偉大

' M1 d1 ^6 y8 Y

6 `0 o  A+ x9 B% d) }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& R+ b% V3 X* G" n6 f

6 F8 b- j  {- S& R8 v0 m; ]! [' h; y( |( V
Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

0 H' ]( _  |8 ^7 g9 y. U% L9 U  j  l5 N0 N% m
他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
7 }; _: j2 i5 k7 ]0 b3 R8 y
; S0 ]5 {" j% k
/ V6 n' w8 U! Q2 g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

3 \, N+ O( B1 H& L5 X
yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  b) U: M! m: Y/ E( s

' b7 x" ?5 I6 p! T% m. u* u2 Byes, that's the point.

, d( o. _3 v( G% D! Y$ i
7 q9 g" B* w5 ~( C9 L8 ?
陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......