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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ @4 R9 O* q" p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% O" f  o  l# X, R
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  Y! _" H( @3 w9 o* J* x" E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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) U9 J) {* R* c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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, g0 p; C6 s; d4 m4 Y! c& h, p打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 b* Y9 G' g7 L2 o1 A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; s! b8 a) r" K+ G. X3 RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 I% E- I$ n+ p0 i; N0 F# Y& q

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8 M% x+ i: j( PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: i. ~- i- Q9 p  x1 n

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  N; d( |! K3 {; aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 d2 ^# C" E0 `  W" c) m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 |# ^9 @) M3 w1 Y( W" _

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

' n/ h8 l* ]* C" ?yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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0 ^( k2 |3 a8 q! Lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......