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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 Z4 k$ j. X# v7 j/ }( i0 x: f

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6 x+ {: u, M2 O6 e+ X智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

3 q* m6 s; G0 I1 sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" M. E& m$ n* G+ e/ q% ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% m8 B8 U$ P  ^! y  m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, k$ {% L6 `7 L, Z& T( f5 f
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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! z1 n& E) ^9 W; ?3 g6 e4 e智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 {5 [! w% _5 V6 W
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 N  N  X0 r" ~. {! n
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 A+ t* D. N$ ^+ u
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; ^: D' a7 n" r! }9 X/ rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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6 R* d2 `  I' O5 W* tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 a9 v) |( X* _( n# k7 F" E
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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4 C5 `' b# a" m* P, C2 b8 D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 }5 Z3 }1 {! Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......