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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) K; e6 a" Y( \) q

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 ?/ z# b' I" p8 ?! a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" K8 k' O( f# ~5 g& bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 `/ {. O* c( Y% i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 A4 S$ L. m& h* I$ h1 C) m4 P
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. P/ e% L& ]; m+ t$ E8 \. a# R9 r
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, U1 o6 x  X+ n2 y- T5 X% a9 F2 rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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0 p  l9 W/ |. EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 @  s2 k0 \, V, D0 }$ C
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; G* i$ ]. w! I9 {/ F( B% A) iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 g. H9 O) s0 L  w& X( L1 h

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' o- x( \" m) n; e; ~5 f. X/ j
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yes, that's the point.

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