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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 G- T9 e7 k( {8 N0 L7 A

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 Y. F; O4 v& o& p. v9 t0 C
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ A2 x7 \- ?$ SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! y! z5 l) N6 m" x& q% W
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see #22 Thus
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. W  u! j+ E% T4 A' l$ V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) W( V" L  P7 D  e+ p5 ]. d2 ]

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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. ?+ X: E; t/ |, o$ r2 H打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# u" T3 t& r& j8 G) J+ f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% S- B& K6 k- s/ K" W6 ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! D1 d6 Z4 Z& h; t2 C: p, w
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) d2 q( o, K( c; c' k6 \4 MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) e8 e" a) ]  Y8 P
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/ ~7 X# I+ S  @7 V, l" J$ x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......