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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ o" R# Z- `9 [# i5 P1 r- N7 q, b

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) \: z1 G3 y; T* B' R8 ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 p7 }- v9 ^( d2 ?; q6 S
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 _% ~3 L+ l* k0 X
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 M7 n9 @; @3 V" g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. P8 m! R- E% Z* ?- b# a+ w
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, F# ]! |0 T* w5 v. N

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0 t  H2 H4 I3 f# _打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! }$ {  r0 y: _2 c$ c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 y# o$ [9 \+ {9 Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: L* ]; d$ P& R% b- u6 u

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& }2 g; s2 k" g1 V$ @7 E" |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( L! D, g5 f) U
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......