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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  l! |7 D3 r! q& v/ v% v
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 @, X/ i+ ^/ K9 i) A5 k

6 s, _# z# o- Q. g) @( f$ ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* P. E. h8 i# ^& n! M* @% b; }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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. ]( x$ J) i- s4 i3 D( H其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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+ e  s; @2 v" O# }其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 W" l5 n" c0 a2 F; L5 s' x" u2 Ysee #22 Thus
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( S2 P# H& E2 u' g) }# L( Q4 k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  ^" L- _9 w$ l) n* h
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 O) ]7 Z4 z& G
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 R4 X9 H0 |6 t; I) [  zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 @! k$ w; c4 g$ I! t0 [" ^3 q2 J0 z
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  s% P  H, T/ G8 j他比孔明更偉大

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% s- R  @! i9 M% z+ M% HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: v& q+ n! R* r! ]/ W* ~, M

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 F# {7 H' o% }* R% @2 s: S
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7 z7 @! l2 r1 R4 d; U1 u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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, [3 C% }8 q3 o0 {5 g* Z/ Xyes, that's the point.

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3 Q& e$ x, Z) X陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......