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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! L3 X% S! T* R5 o- f
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; M/ [! T+ v% W4 Y# t, A0 n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: B* C* ?& n. C' D4 {( I  t' {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 g4 |9 c* }7 M9 Q7 ?) {9 }

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  i# s/ R4 p5 J3 w1 l" {

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why?7 {2 f, j* m4 U/ Y& f0 g8 l2 t
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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9 q9 W. i* g' v$ X( C智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 q6 ^# M9 r1 x& S: R9 V
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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' k7 H& ^: I" I! F$ s打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 @) E3 U$ G3 y4 x/ \  c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' Z" [+ Y8 n. B/ c

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7 u& U7 G, t- ?; I4 c' CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' u/ F: e! a2 S+ _$ P5 K% u

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ m9 M# V1 U6 Y% Z7 G) ~' z

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