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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; \' @$ k* ?% C% d* F0 M- c6 y' q% q0 C
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+ |) U$ O1 D8 ^/ s智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, C; I1 J3 d' I; z! \9 Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: x! x' l5 Z2 y4 w  \3 UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' o, S; _2 ~+ B. r, o/ B+ I) n+ e
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why?
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  b( L6 Y& U% q/ T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus. }3 G* B# p: P; K. W" r% f+ q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- q( m8 E7 P" _/ w

3 }$ _! i- c3 S& s3 q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& X6 n- m6 o+ D8 E' Z

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& a! J; c$ K/ k( zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; L: Q, a, M0 R/ Z6 U: A

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# S1 |" h2 m7 D& X. j

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+ s: _5 j' z( PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 _% |. f, @3 x/ F5 {+ |' _! C
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 w5 I/ ^: u% x0 r

0 I# U" ]  n! g6 Zyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......