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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 z, ]8 p5 |. S: P
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; l" q$ W0 t" Z* B6 L9 {7 C% F; m9 }! r

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6 r( H. \! Z6 \- ^+ t: q1 ?* ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ [% \7 j4 m: {' p
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ P0 Q6 h9 U5 W- @3 L/ M; d. c
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* G; w& @+ g- r1 ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. N" |$ v, u' M4 x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# C2 ?1 t7 x9 x" y/ c3 A2 AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% a: e  m6 i0 E2 d) A

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& u, K! g- V1 a; [* L
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......