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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 b9 I4 r) X- l9 `- Ubut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) |# O9 W' Y+ L9 x+ ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 U2 b0 W! m/ ]) w! LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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8 _( Z, s8 B" ]* |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 `# T5 m4 _/ P6 _6 L% B5 B4 h. |see #22 Thus
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5 u1 ~0 x- t6 y, U智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 b; Z/ u# O9 a7 ^& U1 ^& w% q0 \

; ]1 I* ?8 S1 k/ _( s7 b軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 Y9 H1 }7 L7 a' H. n( P4 V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 L) x  q" O8 |8 R* s; n他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ H7 h5 Z, A' I5 K, V; I3 Y4 l7 W

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他比孔明更偉大

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3 h. E5 j0 h) z8 F: EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" N4 S  T7 ?4 V, Q3 f1 Z" g7 t4 B8 t
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3 ?' @9 ~/ X4 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ E' j  m6 h9 y; P$ h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& k2 X) z" ~" }/ E9 @0 _, ]
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1 c, |8 {. l5 D  x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......