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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 v; G$ w: y! r5 ]" eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" P+ j+ m3 n0 h6 C! W3 K; g
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, b& Y# P+ f1 a' A0 D# _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% D( W7 {; ~& _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& O3 y- Q, L% }
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 z* ]+ F: a* F1 j# _2 S0 t( m
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  G" L, b$ d) s8 J) W

3 [: l6 C8 W* T$ c" V, u+ [1 p) }+ k/ k政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." e# t. ^  T$ F0 Y  H/ m8 {( f

& x$ ]9 A: t- i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 b8 ~* A  ]+ p1 Y; B* H
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' ]; r8 I! l3 \

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他比孔明更偉大

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2 I* W% a  n9 y/ O. SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" t6 C5 p6 ]8 t3 r3 r2 H
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- c6 I$ ?5 g9 @9 N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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; x  m/ h- V4 D% M2 Z/ zyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......