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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- e& Z+ ]7 x6 v, f+ L+ A" y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: i) i7 w; M  W% r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 I( b- b; \8 U) `3 F, v, ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 f4 V/ q. c9 [4 _6 H( K
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4 B4 I; _; \9 O) S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# B  R0 d" }; \% A
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 J8 ~2 Q0 F; kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( R2 {3 f- g4 B, M) `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) ^/ T7 x' A# h- t$ e- j  g) m

  i* @1 C' B. O- v9 W( ryes, that's the point.

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