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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# E, h$ z# o% e9 ~1 [% T6 s

# U3 ?1 i  D% Rbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 D. h! I/ @4 G2 p* ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) f0 ?' ~7 o0 O* W8 x8 U( h' gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& |# p* y0 x1 p) m

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7 X( ~+ p" F7 B" O% }* r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 n& ?) P8 t4 t- Z

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 {7 |; \- y, q, g  b5 q4 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 \* c, w  `* S* z1 x, k  ~5 EIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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% _) X/ R' m. j4 H6 a& C( LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 H) S* n0 X" |6 f3 e5 D3 b3 i
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! g9 j4 P6 n7 h; G

- C2 D% V0 K' z. e+ dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......