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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
  Y  T! E% y$ z- n. R' Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. G8 O2 {# K; y( e, @3 E

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' m) Y: K( a; b: X% }

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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see #22 Thus
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$ G; @& n1 b7 n; x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! G3 {0 `1 j* j6 c

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2 {; L4 {# X( E4 I, |3 E4 m打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* ^! K) J* e& X1 B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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" ~2 T+ G: U' y  a, v他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. Z$ _4 x2 v# ]2 R

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yes, that's the point.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ H; S" n! `9 b) I

5 v0 m5 J7 y, ^3 T& T6 B9 fyes, that's the point.
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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