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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# O+ o, t" h& E/ g; C

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 p  G" I/ b/ w' \7 h$ `5 w! }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 j8 R* l4 ^4 q# k% |( {
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$ v' [% F9 o4 ?. \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 ?6 Z9 Y/ ^; `( \8 `7 j5 v

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  F0 |5 L5 h7 `( b9 x
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- u2 m7 ~" X) v. T
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 z( R* @; _% ]

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 z9 }( `9 G3 }/ I) l: C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! @. P# |& q( w# p3 I+ D+ C! vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" a4 v" b7 I) |4 G

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5 K$ A! ^4 W# NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 i6 {- c2 J( YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, m1 q- X+ w9 x5 m! x

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......