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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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, }$ n: U. q+ r* K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' l9 F4 I8 x. |$ U6 V4 F$ Y4 I

* Z& u; t' X. g4 V) l  Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ l6 s. h% ?. q0 aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 @/ L: y6 B% _0 _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?- ]4 h' p& m' M& U

, a! d( A5 n" c$ b! z1 N4 K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& e, ^8 Q  d; d. n1 `2 g
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5 G; N- G6 w8 P. Q! a% z$ _8 rwhy?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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1 E% I3 p2 Y% k# F8 t, l9 I3 p7 t$ {see #22 Thus2 b6 P4 [! }! i( |( h& H3 o& I& }
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 A; L8 ^/ w9 e軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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7 N( c8 @8 b  R  Z5 L* ?: b政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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& Y3 r& p% y, M# V! [打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 q' X! T) e; K+ d$ K" `/ H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
/ y/ D! W& o. g5 SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 s2 P. D' m: b
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' X( p2 t' t' h1 Z# W, \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" @9 x5 D+ S; R8 [& ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: Y; F/ C8 ]) M+ \2 m6 ?$ D
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 O1 h5 l# L2 G' L4 {, n, h- h2 e
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......