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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, p4 D( `" m) d" X6 `/ W' ?; W! B
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) k; C$ V2 I# U' P! u

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2 H6 M  H* w( b# D  x# YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 M! m- Q- c$ G* {% r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 |! g8 U. r, L- l3 w. |" l0 S3 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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1 |5 Y5 K3 n/ V1 g. f5 f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 b. b6 C! }4 U2 [% v
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- m7 d4 ^9 F8 c5 L1 N  R

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; E; t1 i- |- f0 m  O. P
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& ]- L! u+ d  |' K9 H
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ J$ ?; v6 T, ^2 g1 H% l0 m

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 ?9 M+ o( Z7 Hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......