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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 Q8 n! ~, {! n" ^) |
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ A& |% t* p/ r7 K
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( m2 l- i: {7 M8 m# e- H9 c$ `1 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  ~" j! S4 o2 D1 Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 M# A7 V4 i% k1 \% s' YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  D8 y/ a# |# ?6 Q( S1 o7 r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- k8 `% d9 u% z% ]; S: z1 P
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why?
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% U/ q( K2 I& X# N- e/ M5 Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 Q) f, Q- E5 c

  t$ Z% d; h& x, f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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- a5 e+ e7 _7 Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 v6 x7 [$ D: e% ]! d
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. w) j# r$ m2 A3 v4 e$ i; t  ~
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他比孔明更偉大

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- \+ s% P# Q+ y8 AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ G9 Y% f4 g9 i

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! z6 H( q/ E0 E, W' I$ \) a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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( W5 N8 P8 H# r) D4 F( s陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......