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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 {/ }, X& H) X8 ]: S* n' |

, b0 v! a* X( lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 z6 r# y$ O. C  s5 c+ A) T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ g% d& d% {+ v4 I
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: l& l) O" Z& e6 l. [, E. NBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 Z" Y2 t! U' G$ d
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see #22 Thus
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4 A  j6 J7 G- B& D智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 x2 w! c2 ?" j2 t# j6 a

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., M: k' F( }0 }; J( w9 z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. y  M6 h8 a( q5 K' E4 D& Z2 z- ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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; `2 |6 i) }2 W, k# AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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0 T  A6 c1 k6 p# A# ^3 d- y! wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# c2 B: {+ t; B
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4 O9 ?- d9 f; t  y. S+ s" ]+ E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 J7 Y8 ?( ~& z' _+ Q

' s; D4 {7 y! y* @& P) M& gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......