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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% z& k1 L" b, d4 x, U4 dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) E/ V+ V; a2 _' ~8 UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  o0 R; M3 Y* x; J/ I) J

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- c9 |$ M7 u* D& O4 w+ P1 _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% X# R% U7 n; w/ `- K! `6 K% k

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 l$ h4 [- W5 f$ z7 q" n8 `6 k
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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) |1 A0 l0 j- u% a; \& o" O  i政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# `% A! w$ T& x4 H% R* O

; t$ u& Q+ O/ R! i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 X# I, O7 ?, ]5 qIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) l2 p' u# t9 d0 ^6 {  ]
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) E( M) T8 L& F6 t4 ?$ oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 p4 ]0 U# o' C
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1 w4 h; A  g5 @- n/ ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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: D3 z" {' h( D& _, a# i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ \0 ^: [4 {7 cyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......