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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 M; f# R5 r1 g6 `' C2 y6 H
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." b9 ~# A) r) t8 R
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# H3 F" c4 |9 I( I9 ^5 W, F' k7 A: b

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1 @+ r4 h2 M3 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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% w$ r9 a3 z( P6 H" A5 K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( q, D. E  Z; X: L( l4 A
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 e+ c) s; B, J- t& U& N/ r" v

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* i) l9 F- m- }( O% A% S( d/ c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 a; `! r  U  D+ \. I3 |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! ^0 O' @2 v3 [( Y, r* @) ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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; V5 U5 g9 Q4 N$ x7 m% B9 Wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......