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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  @9 r2 W' h" K/ o; x  Q. uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 `4 Q- a( k5 c* y2 K, ]

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8 v& R0 ^/ B5 P9 Z4 c' r* ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  O  T) _! j; S+ d其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* C' B5 y; m, p
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why?
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! \" s5 s2 E  O9 {7 _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus# E5 y1 C  b' x$ p7 j
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! m" e* D- d4 u4 Z. l7 `" p

5 k1 N$ g6 u5 _2 `" d/ ?軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ ]) q2 O4 V9 C: {" x9 r/ W& g

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' t( u3 G" L: M6 Y. GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! a4 O% y, q# x- K/ `, y* ^6 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# {8 j& u/ @8 x6 @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 G( D% o* L, a

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 A2 ^: K3 b0 R9 ]

6 ^. V. r8 B: ?. ], n$ j& P0 qyes, that's the point.

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