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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 N; y5 d. F% ^" j" ^

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! ]0 V6 _0 K5 E7 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- a3 N8 Q3 C/ Y. t
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 h; h* [1 `" p! c1 f0 b& c
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& f1 d% y' C/ N) I2 @; C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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$ c# ^( h$ O+ [) D9 ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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0 h8 p0 o% I$ e政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; j6 H2 V- S4 r$ K4 S2 z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  H+ J7 A; Y& v# ?: {5 }9 S/ f他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 u; m- P) W8 G: h

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他比孔明更偉大

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9 @9 {) x# A# k, ^* uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 B: x3 k# M) g$ HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) |5 w0 B! F, f7 |1 S0 t

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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