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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" ]4 h4 B5 ~* L7 K/ ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  K4 }5 a! p/ P
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  i# t; E# Q7 k' M* M7 F; Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  l0 k3 Z. Q- z' U
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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4 E: _. z; P- A1 P) V8 e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ R6 L& n! y! J+ B' O' w9 _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& l) X' O& d" b; |In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 N& B' ^$ M# q+ n) B9 M" Y
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

3 d: E* l! Q. k  zyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  i$ W* T+ h# c+ Q9 u2 A! v6 b, x
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......