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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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( s. F* C; a+ P5 }* h2 V) X0 r7 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: m( o8 b5 \8 o5 n5 n0 @

# R* s, x/ m. C. {; d$ [, ~4 a( ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 m" S" ?3 S  E: u) }  cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 G8 K7 Q+ T' E$ x) g' \$ e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 L6 `3 A' Q% j( d' d

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" w: I. d0 e7 h3 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: o: w, R8 L; R  c7 j6 y# e

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6 N; G) r$ g6 }7 T. `7 T2 I& j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 ~" d4 z2 E# c* w( m$ Nsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) u6 b7 v( H, K$ I% q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" ^- K1 w) w- Z2 _6 i3 G5 L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 f( b5 p+ I" f/ U# Z- MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( x  K, o2 a: q$ P- {1 ]) \$ o; r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 n. {' V) b: x; M1 q0 L; p

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......