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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' q) r! R! Q( u
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 J9 ]2 ^- x" y9 A" ~1 g6 D5 N3 t

7 Q- Z3 y+ a* s1 w  tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 O% F! P! Z; u0 h4 S! SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) ?# W/ j) J/ o" Z2 `0 q0 r* n" Y. _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( a7 g, a: n1 }! Y; `But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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! j% [1 m. n+ Y/ r$ U打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ D; I* N3 e) `. O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! l" D. m: R: n0 u9 ^
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; f1 i. X& h$ e& s他比孔明更偉大

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; u  h3 m; ?9 [4 o) ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 v: a& p' q+ D! y

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......