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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ G% k$ o) ]& O  P
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ g- X$ q5 h! S( I0 D  F! y! Q

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! x$ d% p/ j3 l  n: C8 J+ HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., B$ F  y1 z5 Q/ D- o# _7 l2 ]2 f# Q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, B8 I0 ~" v# d4 \8 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 h% U$ H+ y1 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& Y. ^9 a0 c$ L; W

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." l( `. M5 h; J) C( k0 s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: Y+ c( f- F' u/ ^; g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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; a0 R" e5 s- D  l0 CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 O; T; n9 {9 K/ X: F6 D) e

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$ {6 @% d. Y% v* T5 ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ D. K* K3 E1 b8 W: a) n; z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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