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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' r% q" D' `; l! Y9 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! H; d" f) b! A8 B+ n3 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( Z8 R9 m2 ?2 l0 U# R( m. ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ U. s0 ]4 C2 S1 u
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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1 @( W: t7 y) l$ V! @$ T5 \8 J智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' ?$ f  z9 u3 g" i

* [1 V! V( U. O( I軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) ^: z8 R$ d5 L) m4 L9 X% P

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9 k. f1 @2 \/ i. ^; T& [打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  R! ]- F5 Y9 a, S- O: QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' S& N- |. f# x+ _0 f
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 v0 U- M- r& W" r& ]! \* D

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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4 b+ j& |" F9 [, B  V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: l& X) n  ^, E5 l- W$ w

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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