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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  [  y% @' b/ X0 I; P

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 g5 A9 {2 l$ E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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see #22 Thus4 q* A, ^: L' n! L; c% f' ~, q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" ^4 z% _3 H; M6 i* N
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軍事才能:諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能:<--- actually I forgot the details.* o4 c+ B; K5 F9 [3 }  k5 B

* B9 t4 U- t! y* N打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! S2 k# `% E5 V4 H
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, f* y0 U( p# q: D0 \8 X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:* D7 }6 d8 i5 p6 w& X8 g0 @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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yes, that's the point.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, @: z; e& d& r* }$ j

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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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