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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* E5 {# Y8 A3 `% F  Y! o/ E; U: `

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 o7 n7 j0 j1 D+ Z( v

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& N2 }7 h1 D/ _3 h% _$ v, iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( P2 f6 f0 G+ V: i+ q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 \' Y) {0 X* F  G

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& P9 H. W2 _! pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: a& p4 l- m' E% }: L% R. z, x

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 ?+ \  v, N  d& G

$ I) V9 ?, A7 K( @0 I打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% U: q& Q8 d6 I% w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ ~* B* K8 D( v& `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" M8 H+ j9 b  ~

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& P# x" M; I% K7 L  R

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1 X3 n. m+ n: ^3 j) Z( _$ y% cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* Y2 E) h4 C+ ^2 ~5 n) k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ C% ?1 K% K- A+ M7 ]2 J$ I
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. X/ S% j  b" M2 g  o9 Y1 a  q
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yes, that's the point.

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