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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 a; g" l' u8 i. U! Q& i

4 l9 \% y8 f, e# c% S# U1 H9 Y- N3 j& Dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ D7 w; }. V5 J1 w; JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ ]8 E. i( u# U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ B" V; z& Q! _& D. X* i( N( O& V

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1 D5 B. D4 [+ P, _- fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# C; u0 N7 x% L8 t
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus. K& y  J# y3 z0 S& e+ z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 S5 I  h0 S& y$ Z* W* z6 p+ h5 V* ~

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" A' A* {7 @" V7 N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 d, r7 S$ L' TIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) J" A. z2 s0 X% Z6 m2 u
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" k0 d/ \5 P+ E+ c& RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 U7 Y0 K5 I# P+ w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 T# I- }! J4 h, W5 g
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yes, that's the point.

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