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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 P% h% v/ @4 j  O7 i# ^

0 n2 c8 P: o  Dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: j' v- _! i4 ~% p+ B' aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- b" c! J# E9 y9 e6 _* y' b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 K: u6 Z2 a7 G6 [% e& \+ v' L4 J" nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 a- [& t. T* |9 r: m8 y3 Q其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 Z- Q. n$ a& p) ?
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維5 u% }* n7 _3 _# F
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 V3 z/ ?6 a% K: c) n% e5 F
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 h5 L8 F& f( r7 L6 G9 x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# t; w; F% r1 O$ o, |8 s8 I1 ~In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 z' J; o; y/ U" H) @0 s( Y0 KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 {& d, D: w. s

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6 {  e( x) f/ U, J$ ?2 CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 D5 Z; W8 l) l; Z$ J0 M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ Q3 b4 T7 w4 Y; s6 f; \$ G
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( u3 Z4 O# p1 ]0 Y# ]' k5 v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......