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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 [7 w( ]4 e6 J" g, Z2 {
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ ~* y' w( l7 l( R" E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 \2 q0 C1 m, ~( M  u) ^* z- aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' h& ?1 z" `' P

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: P1 a0 R1 b4 O/ v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 z8 h, a) q2 A) u9 E軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 V* `) U% T$ B8 W/ }3 E2 v8 R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 H7 T8 V' M. _4 A: E  }6 E2 f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 _% f2 L+ `6 K4 |" |& ~) P) G8 V2 ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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- p8 y: b) G. `他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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: k9 R( |# a! d  S4 {+ ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 ~2 y0 [: e1 C4 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 G' N" X8 w# }) ?" i: [5 {; i0 ~- J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

( c: c- o& _4 ^/ H# F7 ^: Wyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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