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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 j3 M6 ~" B9 e2 x3 D

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: R) Z* J. @  P0 S1 W; R3 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# b/ w/ W9 k, d8 l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 h* ~  v) a. i+ ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; h" m% d. f3 Z3 V: T, S0 q) b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ Y5 T$ t) W1 o6 [

0 a/ M5 h! K( {8 S2 l+ U' I軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 \1 |0 v$ [  c! s  Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 Q$ i4 q5 ^) G# k; @
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ j$ W$ ]3 }$ Q1 `8 u
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, }& S0 j% [4 F3 b- ^, m" R
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% K  d( J" l1 l9 ]/ R* G1 TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  ~- F: |2 n- \( O1 z, k5 T! S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:6 w0 ]/ g2 i& F- }( t( A' D

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, A+ E, ^  b& C/ {
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......