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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 d7 ~3 v) t/ a% y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 n& O' K- H) \; G) |- q# f
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ Q& l% N! `0 H0 v- `( T7 `' h2 i6 I% aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 j8 `8 l0 s; r$ F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' s, z+ e1 I) T2 S( t! a/ ?
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# w! X/ {0 N; Z0 y! e3 JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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7 {  i; W- k& Q- W" Y5 T8 d; p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' c8 `$ g  C0 t

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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# {9 V4 e$ n, [3 K7 ^4 L3 X政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 d! e7 f. I* }, @9 }* a2 Q2 `

/ {" K% b3 G8 U5 ]* O5 F: x2 Y* q. E2 {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( h8 \- _( B3 I: l9 y: b( q$ [
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 u( i0 G# i+ |* y# G4 GIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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& E. z# z6 A2 ~# yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 ?, i3 U) f0 L5 ]' p$ Z1 t, ?
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* o7 n  B' L$ y# U: SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, S  o" N) V+ A* h" c  h/ [* H2 H1 W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......