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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" b- |  N7 ^* m6 K; G1 B+ s# `

: n6 Z# G1 F$ |) K$ c0 x: cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 ]7 h: i2 Z- d1 ~, v- ?( M# r
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0 m8 \, ?1 r* v; m; ^1 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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$ l9 H7 `7 g6 V0 L  ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ D' _8 L9 d( H& t5 t; u% s智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 q/ [0 w9 v* i5 t2 m% S
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# {/ ^0 T+ J% s; k

6 t+ K  R3 [- b  [& p  I$ u政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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5 T# V% N- r. _3 ~6 b5 z0 W; b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! r; @1 R) w, ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) k$ Y( ?$ P% y" ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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* p- R6 w' K" T4 G  h* D2 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! E+ b3 H) t; ^2 M. dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ Y/ }2 P- G9 ?: m$ m- n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ K5 `. e/ ]* p! N  n
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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5 W0 l& b, v. J! G$ u, K. H1 Lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......