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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 P0 i0 n. @/ O( a$ J! p) \

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 S) K% f3 Q5 U/ u& {" l% F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ |: {  m# I; t
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- U9 [* _& m2 q1 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  \! ]' |" }' c' A  p; m1 x其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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( s3 L; [  D% w. w4 N( e* j& e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% b) `% X) S7 T2 e4 S

) B% i1 ^  r5 m7 _+ |: w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, u$ u2 R3 G6 H, f% [
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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' D1 c- Q! w  J9 ~- x( h5 u- n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: {. U# s* ^  D* z& B# E
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; G4 x+ D6 e" v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ H9 z7 X, N* R* [; u

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他比孔明更偉大

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4 O$ D/ O1 b& p2 IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  V- a0 E, Q& Q/ _6 |2 Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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0 v1 v3 B: p* P) p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

* p! l. r: U3 {- I' @yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( t2 @$ N) j; Q$ z. @

0 o. U2 _( [3 o! ~1 `yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......