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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  W  ^! n2 {- L5 Y+ Y* {

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  ]: ?; D; a. m5 y. M2 R" M
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 A5 u! X0 |# ]+ U/ h# h8 m

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 U  v( Q  W3 T' g智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* \8 Q& L# e5 Q: J# d; {

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.+ k, T$ f4 i8 H6 t; B7 B9 K+ b

3 I2 ^7 k, o2 w* x打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; l6 q3 U+ w2 x9 ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 E1 ~7 G% K  f* z; i3 S2 B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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8 f* ]2 I. {0 HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 X- r' K! Z/ F( f
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3 C" C2 n+ [8 \/ F4 I2 M! G3 M. {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

, [; F" C# h9 c# M9 ~2 pyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 J9 x( j, A' ^! _( c

  c8 U; o# k. ]) P5 @) E0 F! nyes, that's the point.

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