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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 T3 c* a" d5 p8 o" m& H# B
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 E2 J: e" k$ ~9 @8 o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 N9 T' w& U7 l" {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" J1 B) _) k6 @

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; T5 y5 l+ _' S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 m: U: R7 s* o2 ~% E( e
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* E7 C, h. |+ }0 {# D

, {) E* n$ I5 p0 x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: n2 _  |% p$ L# S1 y3 IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 k9 M$ k7 [+ W9 P) E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! |. i3 g$ k9 v$ p9 Y
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# e) V# M" g3 C, a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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