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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# n8 x" w1 `; V7 X: Y

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* n; m4 w3 ~& m7 p* F6 m8 N/ j. ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮." Z# ?6 x6 ]+ ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; I8 Q- m7 w6 u$ j& W0 k
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/ j" i3 J: b! J7 d! ?2 I' j) jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 f% \- E. S5 X
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 [  C/ d* w; }0 V7 b

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 b" z  m8 C% d" n- S+ K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 X: c0 j; |# i2 x' `

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' N5 L( H6 Y  f+ ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 q  w: Z% W; i7 U2 Z6 g% B5 M" A

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 {8 E5 e4 m3 x! I. c* B( |% t
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( n5 W7 ?% Q3 u# z! j
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......