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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& X. G: m5 c" x6 r4 T" E5 L7 [
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 N/ }3 W! b; o" ~3 Q0 a

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ D0 r. J+ u/ \  v1 {5 r- @
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: }& c, W3 M9 U+ m  Y

" w7 d* Z5 ~" r# w$ k4 s打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  ~  y) M5 t* Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, U! ]1 G+ y$ d/ Z- v8 O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" o8 S5 C9 _$ y- c2 S# x

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8 ^. q: o3 n# c& _/ f' vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 B/ w/ S4 X3 p1 ]) a$ D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* a3 g3 M/ k1 k
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9 J/ U" r* i- V3 i) o8 c/ E4 [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

. n" T( t0 c; u3 dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ R) o# Q" t* F$ A
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......