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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% B) W* w5 z6 o/ @. d* L
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. v. {1 j7 J) g. L
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 b( x  }3 w0 f' x8 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! \* g( L& A, P1 _

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' ]0 j; W( i1 G6 iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  w; h2 L" e/ I0 d4 s2 J
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 R* F9 J7 |* f/ I4 ^8 i

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 d) p$ t* C- V: K9 c+ Q' x
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# h4 d: c, \. }) h3 Q+ s4 a3 @
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ Q4 K5 ^& }7 m
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......