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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ R0 y' X+ B) I' p0 }
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# }" ]4 _2 {0 f; Y9 T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# J0 H2 i; d! J8 t# T" f+ m9 S" u
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 Q8 |$ m: H0 D7 [9 X" H& N3 v; f
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why?
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4 ?3 p7 D& }; b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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" @) m* t0 P3 I+ Y: Z. psee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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  F1 `8 W. A4 G3 k4 y& @8 \% e5 `4 o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ k( L9 B8 {; |% ]7 `9 e' o

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 W2 R- X5 F7 {. [# Y" i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* l% y4 b+ Z1 W

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: P/ d# M% M0 e/ [# Q9 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 T; {; d" g$ ~
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 ?! ~1 a! }' W/ i4 k: J3 y& K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" J( R& h' {+ g9 v: s
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......