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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! y) ]0 X$ |4 f1 a
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! }" K5 v3 M3 v3 n. T( D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 y, Z/ D2 M0 ]+ h% @  g9 y* Y5 G
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$ M* ]* O: Z0 v( }$ UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( T$ h) B) A2 C; g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 c. J( Z, U+ D

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" T: |* l4 s3 T+ k8 m# @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% L, h3 @. A5 z' H( U

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& _6 W  ^2 N) `9 Y1 P" ]& QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:1 }; Z% z! r9 q1 W9 J' s5 T
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ b$ V4 ^$ h$ jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: @: H9 J  N! Q, I9 W9 C* i
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. n, h! w+ f, }# r3 u  l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......