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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( D3 h5 B1 i5 g2 O( I8 i
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) i1 c- q- w2 V# R" C1 }  A
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 u; |, _  H) Y$ q3 Y9 B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! ~+ `+ o6 _6 a" P/ Z; uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& t& s3 F& t$ i- t: y5 d: D' Z

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( \% ^% ^* J: T; G0 m5 R/ z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ D; O3 j& Z, \7 A9 d& M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, q" V, p. n/ H- u7 y2 N+ X8 @
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& v8 b" t0 J- d

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 _& q  u" T$ S" l2 v$ t# d
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......