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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ c. E7 x4 W$ g/ u: {$ ^

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) R& m) s4 W8 t& C- ?3 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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; ~; E- J/ K) P8 \3 m/ e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># P1 T3 f3 W! G: K- ^
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 p/ P3 [- t  p4 `
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& f3 u& j! _  g: D4 M

7 s# l( b8 ~2 k: f5 X$ [, ^! ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 I5 e' a9 w5 F# Y0 |: w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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2 b; R4 C2 ]9 {他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ w8 L$ d) K3 s' a7 b
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! E; w( k5 p. j" k5 mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; g% c1 F5 M1 u/ x" q/ v

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9 Z9 f" d: G- U, myes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......