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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 ~6 a1 t. ^% g" @* h, C
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 j& C* e! f$ {, z4 K
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ Q. R0 _3 L0 B' Z6 T8 R: ~7 dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# B5 @, ^' I/ g5 g( B9 g7 u

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, o5 S: ?- j) H$ ~
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8 `4 z2 f+ Z  @0 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?- c& `  c8 q4 G' z; [) B/ @) Z
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, k1 X9 Y- K' a9 Y" F
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 \  C" P; M7 s; E& ?0 \0 ]* M打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 r% S3 s. A) N' s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) O5 x5 O* v1 |, M; J5 ]2 e4 n# E

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! K7 ^& Y4 h% B$ ~, JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; i, i' O7 G. b' W5 ~8 D; z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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& |3 n& T* I5 L# X+ vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......