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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 V, H% I# b& y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. ~: g  M& S+ m' s8 Q" c
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 Q8 a; x" B% A, j# W7 pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 r  L* Z0 ~+ O. e

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 ~/ p6 p4 l% G6 \( |5 T
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- C$ G+ L1 h/ w/ Z* L" w% s/ O3 F6 R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; x/ O. k0 l$ R6 N1 G
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 F+ L& [8 D3 ^9 b9 ?( R, H( C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: ]$ L) O& m1 a5 v* w3 ^
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( B, u% v/ z( u6 J' ^3 @
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0 f% J- w; S5 |; j+ ]4 A% f& @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) T" Y) l6 t0 c2 [% u4 a

- Q# B7 }, L: u* o9 l) I; D8 Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......