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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 l0 |4 V# s: Y( u5 P* ~
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) D* Z+ g- k6 ^) `$ p  O4 C8 w' U$ y
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. c4 S% q/ p# p1 u* v) GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ U1 r) o, r, `. c% N# U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; ?0 e! j* u- R- c

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& ^( s1 z7 V- GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! {$ O8 l" x, w, f+ T; B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% q9 j6 n2 [# i

9 Q: |1 x6 u4 S+ F( e0 H% c" |$ }軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 E2 N/ W5 k+ i1 N0 W. n政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- s: `* ^& v3 b  z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& R9 D: B$ R: f  [$ O# e3 R; \: m) |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 w; l8 u" f" V( J0 Q
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 }8 k6 w# {8 R; K% V2 z6 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 ^# Y; ^, h+ z' N5 V( Y! o* g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 C) J1 i% t! M/ z- h/ [

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......