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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 ~' z7 b) x* c2 |8 C; Ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; u# x3 j" x0 l3 y* o  g

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2 S! n. H1 w! `; U: W# lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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7 Z- ]4 h2 C" {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& X' T" \1 @* V* [; _

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. s* I$ }/ S8 C2 H

8 o' |, q; n8 @4 F% G( k% b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 J, `6 a  Y. x! S! [: I0 K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% Q3 M, G5 |8 b$ zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* p0 C7 s, J3 b
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: ~( o& W1 h; |. J
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# s6 t/ g9 A4 f0 M) O& LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- {6 ~% b4 x; @% C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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