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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 S% L# p" V+ F5 Y: {' W( A* n
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( [: s) U, l  q0 A

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; Q: e* I2 e* c* P. }+ V7 U/ `

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1 T4 I5 H0 ~% K1 v: c( X  U, l5 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ x& E2 o/ c. s7 Z6 z1 [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* X/ a; {7 h6 z0 u- Q9 m1 G& ~
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. a# a+ k, _" ?; l0 R/ g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, d, Z* n1 d/ I, x* @5 v1 O
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." i, H7 t; @  G# m: [3 z/ ?5 M

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 C8 S" }: j0 W2 e- y9 B. R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, l# k3 l# }$ Z' a+ j, I
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  ?# V3 z' V. @9 e1 s; r! Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) w5 v: ?. t$ j6 l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' V% z; u& [4 d2 X& o

! V' F" Q# m8 _# Z/ [yes, that's the point.

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