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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  b" u! Y8 m, U& h' w

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* B) x' M4 a4 L8 a$ \7 i

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. Y& T2 s( U' Z; U, H  G9 a0 T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ @$ ~) e' C, D# m3 a

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( V! B* }6 d/ y* I" ~6 M
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# k: y. n3 c. K+ Lsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 ]# J3 L; o: S4 j/ i9 N' R

  E* a" E- ~9 x; ~1 C9 B0 o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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7 f& ?9 V1 p' l  N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: Q4 j* T, s& S8 W+ A. x0 E2 U9 [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ _6 P2 ~# d5 ]  NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( |8 w  P/ j1 W3 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; Y1 k( o1 d" O) o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ s8 T4 `% J! }- g

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ |+ Q7 d  c+ [' C4 D8 T; f
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......