singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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7 c2 l7 Y* E7 }" yThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".4 g  L  o5 f$ D4 ]" `& L
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
5 [3 w5 K" I3 \' r( a$ b: s. P- G0 U會考就係最好的例子.1 h8 x* s8 t/ ?+ ~! A2 C& R
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:2 F" _9 m# R! g1 G% i# ~/ T4 {, x7 f
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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" T! e, E' \" M' F$ W& ^good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:$ H' T& M1 J# W
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣2 j4 j9 f9 z6 |2 T3 Q! N( n

) i$ V3 E) V+ U/ s' ~我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 1 j" \6 ~) @, z- D- e
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀. p8 e5 K- [- \' {* Q2 [8 e

5 c: e; f  t. Z哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:5 X; X! i5 K  e
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: ]+ z$ I. q8 Z& A! q/ o哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.; c+ [7 ~# y  g& t: J
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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/ y* h. D! A- z0 v) Ehaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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; K( k) d* n* N3 E* W哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力./ S0 n: N$ \0 }/ `3 S; l$ ?

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢5 W0 j2 e1 w/ d7 N0 C' V( {$ H

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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:/ _8 A* @. l: Z+ u: M" n8 C' @) `$ W! s
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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# j6 A: E) Y# @2 g) F" |9 khaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO * M  U- r2 a8 X5 z( N
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la" K% x. {3 S) K+ ]2 L9 y
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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