jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& q9 O2 l. A: h: k- ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 z% H: \' \/ k  lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ J3 i- s. ^4 W3 r5 c; y$ {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. s3 b% L3 V) Y. Y: @but why jesus need to do this?
: f! g8 w; y7 n4 R+ f- Upunsihment for what???
' G1 H. F6 a9 s% Z( e+ }6 e& Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% i  F7 G$ l) ]8 i* Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ |# O. d* k; c  A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 h. w, X/ Y3 A! t0 q9 {4 cwhat will u do???
, f1 r( ^" D& D; b! V; f1 jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  Z2 M  m- w2 v9 C/ U2 v* @* n
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( C7 [' k/ |7 N. m8 Zyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- j& n. U  v; J. v" Y
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* y$ W" n  Z' W1 b$ M. ~- Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 w$ X& z: M7 P: u7 y( qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 e, |+ j! L+ ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ U+ a* H7 P. j. n+ C! \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; X+ W. x0 W8 U$ b2 R# V9 D
but why jesus need to do this?
6 [$ t( a2 ]6 @0 V! G9 f1 d' Ypunsihment for what???
5 p- x# W: G# p' _1 g7 n2 E$ wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ ]% f# I& c5 P! Y" z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 P0 e; V# C( N! q( k' p6 I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 ^3 P% C3 l) d0 L6 jwhat will u do???
7 y! j. Q9 T2 cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - u3 s. t& P( [; {9 i4 ~

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 r! u. Q; C7 N7 g: e

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # \& q5 @6 N: K8 J  `
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days6 o, W! P: J8 Q. k: Q8 K3 J
honestly, if there is jesus
* E( Y1 {2 i, e( V2 Vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 c. ~. U4 W* N4 \% Wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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# E8 t; U# x7 j7 syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( T  `0 d1 f# ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ O4 w, c% B: z, ~5 P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; d# S$ U1 u; I7 d% U# W7 E
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 v2 b; F+ X2 }6 w& Cbro singgeihot and rest365days* p8 _8 r, d: X6 K' o- s$ ^& @' S
honestly, if there is jesus
( h* o" P8 q% Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' \# I* F: o" ^7 d" g! A3 M8 i6 hwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ p! q1 @4 Y' }  aotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 k  p& ]  T+ i: j0 j2 Z6 l! w
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: