jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
$ O9 a& j% X; [6 b0 m- ?, Q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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/ Y' I! x- R5 r/ M/ Pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- U! s6 o* Q; u, P3 c1 b# {2 y; \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 ~2 m! }! n, ]1 l! G! @  f
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 I5 [9 L! E0 T: A9 Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   M7 h: w- g' T, z% X
but why jesus need to do this?
& y  m% N" X& Qpunsihment for what???- a- Z3 B$ X  f% e8 l( D# A- A/ a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; q/ a7 J& l1 s& e& U. U7 W- r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  p. m% T, I) B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 y9 R: C" \: A9 U  ?( p) T
what will u do???; P7 {8 o# t1 @: D: q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; R! Z8 B" o; X- y2 B: N; h8 y
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0 o6 R. j  v" c6 W( O) X7 Gyes, what did u think is what i...

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, G7 ~5 D, Q' |( F9 a7 y4 ~咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; f+ e3 t' o: `& ]# W% G( G

7 G  ]/ T2 _2 _. ]0 ^( f但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 J+ e! U: z+ y5 e: f2 t/ X

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ L$ E8 W2 O- U- N0 `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. h3 T- g5 p9 h- ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 x' H  c/ @8 B* P
why this happen? just simple........punishment
3 m# G0 Y2 U( H$ z% Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 c5 }; Z- \* X" o6 y6 Z
but why jesus need to do this?
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  B2 {: D" }; X  H0 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ D4 _* Z: ^% dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: _, M& k: ]7 D, m& ?; }1 Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" Q2 C9 P1 U5 C3 j2 k4 S" vwhat will u do???
7 |! E4 s/ f: {. N3 z# V8 }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) }+ }$ A$ }0 C4 F3 Y1 Y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ E' V7 l, j- j  F" ?. u$ ~6 z$ e" A* y

2 @: C; s' v, [0 F( m議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) G, t$ O9 c( g3 c4 {* ahonestly, if there is jesus7 \5 x# o% V- E) c
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; I+ N- o  ~! d7 j9 v" Ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( ^9 M! f  f5 A' l- x9 {4 R( g) E

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: d7 Z: N3 d' T3 K( v好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 |* o% N' w9 Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 O% T- c5 X! |) b" W) o8 Rso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# e  `4 B+ u1 `1 ]' r$ S, V& \now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: S& c$ g5 o2 W9 N8 i3 |6 bbro singgeihot and rest365days5 R; G; S% J6 o# t2 O6 e
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. o) v2 e* x: _0 A4 i" u" ^
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) @/ z6 F4 N2 B3 Q4 {- Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% a7 }# ^- d% R2 ~7 O/ ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: