jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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1 Z' }, p# t6 Y% S; d) h& K. Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 f1 J$ {* n  |( x% s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 B  l2 g( p% _1 ~8 i% J  ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
' i& m& e1 j5 b' pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- Q6 ?  k$ i1 C9 l" fbut why jesus need to do this?2 \2 ?+ T* ?% D2 P9 [! k! N0 N/ R
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 B- Q# {5 s& t6 p. q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / m5 P6 V: ]9 _
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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* I5 e6 r! k1 Q: e6 @: _/ ayes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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  d4 M% X* W: t' D4 |; m* c  ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" B/ t$ p% {6 ]( _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! O, k8 U# ~  A: H; |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ N/ ^4 A0 G+ [/ y' @( A9 `- t
why this happen? just simple........punishment( h; S: _+ e; A; E$ Q/ ?4 _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * E* H0 U% \. F  `7 I. ?8 F+ Y! L
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- C; Z% k# q# c1 M1 i& [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) P! e6 S7 @/ Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 V, F3 H& q9 A/ ?0 m( T- l! \' Zwhat will u do???
& {# v" F  l" S$ Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 , ^" |, ]  }, q! ~

6 y. _( e. C8 u; u' F' ?議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% f. f- {) q* \1 M- J4 V5 F" d2 g- b
honestly, if there is jesus( y0 i1 u6 A# A6 r9 v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. t, E8 ?3 i: K5 S7 K5 ^$ H; ]7 m  L$ A
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 [! j( O0 y# l" y! U7 N; c
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# X( e: [& i& u' _
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ p; B' n: E7 X/ y. wso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
. p$ U! }; K1 C# |now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ Q; q9 p- O" z* Sbro singgeihot and rest365days
( O' c6 s0 e. @0 l5 E, s2 m; M8 Shonestly, if there is jesus/ n1 @6 w! ^3 f1 n
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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+ `  o8 }4 _# S, ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( p  a0 U; @' G  i! v
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: