jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% X/ F( n. B- @+ J- |3 _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  c, j2 d1 q0 w) H+ ]6 F  p( y/ pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! v7 L2 G7 j3 T8 _0 Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 S8 @1 s& k* }2 R  c4 Tbut why jesus need to do this?* {* H% C# f. E& G
punsihment for what???3 }) E, c( t. M, r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 l( B3 T8 |) n6 y/ N5 Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! M2 a  P3 t! l; P; F
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 ^$ a/ e; E5 z. m! g6 b2 P' \what will u do???2 u' L, b9 M/ |; w9 V5 @- N
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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3 b! q3 x$ n& [, k, Yyes, what did u think is what i...

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( i( T' I6 j% Z- j1 c咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ S6 n6 u( B. `! i( i( V. m0 }- \

( {/ s* h, Q1 g" q+ ~0 |$ l, q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  c, C8 ?' \: P

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 `& e6 [2 @0 B# ]) K0 \
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  a( E+ D! Y  l& h% S5 m- e( Q6 Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 B; G. `& @9 X- y' B. }why this happen? just simple........punishment) X: P9 L, {) c" @. {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" v5 I( @8 |* h3 Jbut why jesus need to do this?
+ \, p; ~" q3 R3 O$ ^punsihment for what???
3 Q# y5 \4 v; C" D8 Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 N5 D) q. n; M* g) ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) ~) d' E% Q" b/ ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 f4 N  V' Y* ^9 Ewhat will u do???  f: K+ `! ]7 Z0 C& B
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 P* N6 t4 O) e6 G% u  }' a4 S

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 [6 x3 D- G- i, |
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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6 j/ {7 N+ h0 V$ l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" a) }0 Z1 R/ Z! u
honestly, if there is jesus# r& Z+ @$ O) f$ \5 [  w
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 n6 H; B) R9 }. |
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. t3 R) ?, _6 f" n, U8 n

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# i" v! i& w0 B3 rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it, u' D: W" z- `3 r: N
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 a) X$ m9 F; c% u9 o" w8 t* Unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 r1 w8 @8 c* R$ y
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! h& V7 l8 p% @8 c6 Mhonestly, if there is jesus
( J1 v8 u! A5 Y3 F6 Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& X# S0 ^% M# F+ v) q: x' N* s
we can't blow him :cool:

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. F& G9 D* [+ ]% y5 W5 b& junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
- x9 J8 S+ ^# }otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 n% q3 p' p* P自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 M* h6 t3 a7 zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: