jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# b; c/ D8 x$ a9 O4 T+ e9 }4 V
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  }6 d$ G$ |& i
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 a  E1 z0 Z* H$ @2 Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. g' i5 s8 V; e, {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 S9 @1 ~) d- m+ z) z$ D  p
but why jesus need to do this?2 j' c" `4 C. a9 E" `9 U- S
punsihment for what???
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$ Y$ |- p7 b( a0 R* u* @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 ~0 J7 v9 V* D% L: m- A, }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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- k9 A2 m5 y5 \* t2 v咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 j7 h2 n. \& D; l. U5 a$ U8 c
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& I" ?' U! u2 L; p5 Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: J/ u$ s( W& W( u/ t+ v" tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 }6 W- p1 O/ z2 S) W  uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 H4 e+ U7 ?' v! L- x) c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: x4 G( v0 w0 {' D  dbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 U/ u) T6 R) ^  L6 x, F3 L
what will u do???' k/ Q2 U& Z+ I
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) W. q8 Y5 j* `( C: B. R
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 , a# W2 q8 i) s# Y7 \
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' i$ k: L: P/ g. _* T4 whonestly, if there is jesus8 ^- k5 ]5 @5 @- X% J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 I0 ~5 V- L( i: U
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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; b! a2 x* `8 }. A3 J! E7 s! ]) m) i; cyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* O: x1 n' j4 J; P9 U5 \2 s; |! R
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# _" h* M* Q  [8 u
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* y6 [8 k4 _+ }+ d. Z% W
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 n# d3 K$ _( O$ [7 H3 Z
bro singgeihot and rest365days+ e# b- t& e) j0 m# }  j
honestly, if there is jesus. h, s+ z- ?' y: U, c1 Q1 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' y- W$ N! t+ R$ `' N! O/ n* {
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- k. g- w/ q2 W1 U7 I8 ?5 L; S
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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