jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 P4 Z# t3 w9 E; J. \仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; [  g! p# T% a* z$ Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# S4 v5 ~# u' |- |9 a0 Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment; _! A0 Z& ]/ j. z% O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ }& E" }; e: R% ?9 z  Mbut why jesus need to do this?& P4 g8 t* M1 o8 n4 O" h
punsihment for what???
% A. r2 H. S$ L" ~for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 g/ P( p- c. Y: \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* S' L( x, y3 i& y$ j2 v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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, [2 C- K% x8 e# E- w7 }9 r咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ L' D- r1 C4 s" P; _# O5 E5 p
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% m! S1 b& N! {+ _$ i
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 o9 B- D1 `* _5 Y9 c) P2 i
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ _6 H0 z$ D# j
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 D8 ^' y3 ^- {8 M& p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( g9 e# r. A: b- e" b+ }) g( }4 d
but why jesus need to do this?
( m9 L* H$ ?' x+ M$ F0 tpunsihment for what???
( T. {: Y' Q1 E0 [: cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- w& a0 v& T7 w7 t# M" ?) ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. [3 M# w8 n. n1 W7 j8 W4 m: @3 T8 Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + Q  T2 `8 ]9 n3 `8 W
what will u do???
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( O( J9 j1 T( P/ \7 Jsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, X+ H* ]. m6 G+ s5 D# P
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# E4 P4 g3 Q9 M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( L8 t4 d0 N. g" a) j$ J' k! X

( o, ~! M" m& Y, N* g7 i議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 U/ Q, S; z4 V. V
honestly, if there is jesus4 X+ u6 V' s1 D! T4 G
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% E9 f+ Q" a; Z1 q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ B7 x9 y/ T! |8 r" b; dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 d# z! a. G  }- X" B
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ _! `  E  H5 m# `# Q8 V6 w4 o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ x% p& l2 Q( V9 D, N8 ~3 B. Y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 g* [7 M4 ?) w# y/ T
bro singgeihot and rest365days/ G1 L) E7 w" v
honestly, if there is jesus
: {0 T/ s; o1 ~' F. n: x6 ^he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- X/ z) p! D# w2 M% H) t$ i* ^
we can't blow him :cool:

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% @- z8 f' z/ \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 \' w" V9 E$ ~$ x$ \( Z
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: