jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" V, `* G# R+ ]- r0 r0 P: W( I
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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; M, A& F0 L2 F9 B2 Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% v( a& T& S. H+ G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 X/ z: }/ ]! I" G7 a4 f
why this happen? just simple........punishment, N1 I) D) D* T* B& {% N8 H3 ?# X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; y% D! s7 S; l, L0 Tbut why jesus need to do this?
/ x/ w) d- S; M3 Bpunsihment for what???9 h% K2 V; e/ v, i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! A4 v1 l9 a4 y3 r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: [$ D# p6 k9 o+ n) t! }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 W% U0 q5 |' z8 r' S
what will u do???
; h& B: q0 P4 |: Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- h, U8 M  Y& t3 I
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 ?! A# ?# @, X. N1 l- g: q: Z4 L
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 S+ F2 ]0 H& o" B7 O0 Z) e
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% ~! Y+ s8 A8 z# x( `, z' _" D) [8 Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( E  h, @9 f+ F. x* \( P8 dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 A+ |9 g+ n+ Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 P. A6 _! z4 m8 x9 x+ l3 xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % X( S: L. q$ ^) U
but why jesus need to do this?6 v) N# k. `/ z2 z# o# v
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 Z5 r+ \4 j5 ], w6 g$ C3 dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 h& X% H% V; q5 [: F) I
what will u do???; O/ S! E. p8 i9 Z# g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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$ f" M, c  X! J+ ^1 J+ Q1 qsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 u. `3 \, J! h5 u& f% E, f! B9 L

! ^% \& _2 T, p1 ?5 ]1 S議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# e7 S5 ]- l& [4 R0 U% \+ P# d! ahonestly, if there is jesus
2 U7 l* F8 P4 u- d$ \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; h. ~: e+ G# I+ I# c3 F5 awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 j- Z1 G" C! W; A6 @1 A. xjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
- }- s/ ]3 h& g& `5 Mso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# ^8 e6 ~/ i+ U$ s- ]: Y0 R
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, [; f9 {; k' z
bro singgeihot and rest365days: S! O( R. \& R3 K
honestly, if there is jesus7 X% ]( ]& D4 H- ]5 ?; T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ F- S3 U; D6 xwe can't blow him :cool:

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& @5 K! g0 q: a' Aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics' s( t1 R  w0 n, v9 E+ J* g- k% Q0 R& J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 J5 h4 p* G/ T. e# F( f4 C* m: m; s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, \* o' C8 i3 p6 e8 R9 shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: