jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& b5 `/ @4 E( j% R, e
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 ]- p; q/ f" v9 k9 M  E7 Q$ M4 Q* L
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8 Y& E) h' M) y" _: Lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# s+ I+ F1 ~# T! ^0 ]6 h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  x* v' U/ q' B8 v  Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 D6 H" q1 N) q. q+ c' t! N3 D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: v( G. X! ?  f$ R7 ^' v- A, mbut why jesus need to do this?1 @0 c% v$ a. U( A! l, R3 u( ]
punsihment for what???
; g6 n( g3 }  ~for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ Q7 B0 `( \! ]7 f1 Y; w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 \' \' z1 R* d& f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 {5 |% ~" n* V2 p' ~0 nwhat will u do???" ^8 C3 v" j) T4 V9 m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* [6 k/ g) W. v/ f; v' D

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( C3 C4 ?% z8 n+ P, ^, hyes, what did u think is what i...

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, E( {) g: R& ^0 F! x咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 p. e3 j" m# Y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% z8 o: U% _4 @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# j2 z% [5 v( @% r
why this happen? just simple........punishment, Z3 S0 `! r8 ~4 A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 w# E/ Y! U# R" t; D
but why jesus need to do this?. K, m- w4 y8 b: @& X3 M5 |
punsihment for what???
$ b$ h  W5 \) k5 `: Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 E3 ^7 N% j+ o( |! X) S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 k5 m+ j$ E+ _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. _* }$ t. p7 Swhat will u do???6 A+ {1 Z5 I% b& ?* {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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1 O' K5 b5 B+ H; ^3 F$ tbro, did u know that there is a...

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* `& j9 i' D* H$ K0 l4 H6 k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 C, g- A3 _$ U8 n" f5 Y$ A

$ o+ U, P( m: ~& K7 L& d! h  o4 V議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 ]. @) F5 n* w# p: Y" P: Y2 Z: uhonestly, if there is jesus7 V! S0 v# e* @: l' Z2 |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ t9 s/ u8 m# c
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 x4 y- o; b0 F" M( `8 n) \
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 V. D' U8 q6 v+ C: {/ ^* yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 w& J8 q; E+ v0 d$ o
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it% A  v, r4 e* z6 \: O* r$ P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- i  `& Z5 t/ {. ]! T
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 Q, Y4 Z; A" R* G5 ]) m+ y% y
bro singgeihot and rest365days
* D  k1 q- L- A9 ~) ]honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; v9 G" u! D; n: T: C9 I! ~' A4 r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 M8 V4 p- E" y' C/ J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: