jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* r! Y- q7 T' Z( d+ E) X* x
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架' K% s/ B9 t& o, S+ S; [
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" S+ d+ p  U  E5 P5 gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' b9 |5 P4 e; @( K+ J  g7 W9 Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ C1 E1 F- `! O2 n
why this happen? just simple........punishment, C( o: g. @: K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 a( i% `' W* Q+ \& @( x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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+ n0 ~) W$ ?+ F3 ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 d$ X8 a, j2 g; X3 B9 X咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. n" N- T0 {. E
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ ]; B8 ^* h3 E! \
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( d0 G0 e; d! Q9 a, y9 L  `& N
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ X7 K; B4 V6 E6 n- p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 a# y( k/ K; ]why this happen? just simple........punishment
" X7 w8 Y# m/ dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 M6 c. l0 |4 K. a& bbut why jesus need to do this?# W* d7 r' J( d/ y' x
punsihment for what???$ g+ l0 @0 `4 N& N& ~/ ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 J& s- l. e+ Q. N. a( z2 W, P* |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  ?, G* u2 M# \" [5 _, S$ ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 T8 z/ W3 J8 r: B( ^- l" hwhat will u do???
2 g6 N7 c8 t; z4 @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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! C# f" g: Z3 W5 g5 B, }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 ~% {; ?( V0 }- r) E- y5 k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 B9 m) s% W- m3 b7 J- Q" t4 r4 Ohonestly, if there is jesus2 N6 E! k/ @  z( O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ B6 D1 j5 p* W9 y8 |9 f
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# J- `2 p$ N; D9 l( h6 N& pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" o2 m; Q6 _% H1 |" G6 `. u( J+ X
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 V+ }' s8 V. ?% [! Q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 c( B2 \7 p4 q% q3 o  g. [
bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ E0 P8 J: c& p- T% ^honestly, if there is jesus
  u1 @8 ^5 Z" o; Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* r" t$ G$ W! bwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! `+ H& F" F# q% w. F  H
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 x- R/ ~1 V4 j! M
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: x( W! ]# e7 C# @) k* whaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: