jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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" \; v4 m0 M5 |: V5 Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- E  @; K- x1 j6 \, V  w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* I' e' M" c1 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  E1 n0 u/ A# a* Y6 jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 ]& I! `! x' }# D- T! \
but why jesus need to do this?
' I& }% |' ^" K9 E+ K3 c! n( tpunsihment for what???
1 J8 S! d3 ~  H7 Nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. ]- n; `! o6 U5 e3 B. }5 H+ b2 Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ ]/ T9 z1 {# l7 j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- n  S, z$ I( x" d

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9 C( a0 k3 e3 M- v+ l; t8 ]yes, what did u think is what i...

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3 n) u# ?9 w6 J: a咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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! _% S+ d  c- I0 ~但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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- \( U8 C' D5 O8 S4 L( E  p咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( `) c5 q* K# M$ [% ^2 ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 E( H1 `8 c5 |5 [3 o
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( J+ Y6 c2 h( y8 E/ l; r2 rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment  a, z; j( {' l3 L& [
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  `5 L/ V) ?  ]! l/ Z$ Zbut why jesus need to do this?
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3 n; \. E0 X0 u8 p' @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: {* T6 p0 X  ~* p; c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 a3 c' Q; K- E( ]4 d, k+ O6 T+ M6 I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , T! t0 U5 r# P5 J
what will u do???
) H  F' `+ y! E2 O4 vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " G% w' N6 \. q) \

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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$ h% y) m( o* }& j/ W. Tbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" F  L# q. ^% Z1 y- O; ehonestly, if there is jesus
' F- ^- R8 ?6 d" m5 lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 s  |5 k# l& P9 M$ _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 F' F8 A% l: R) B. B8 Z
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* k! D, \1 H7 k2 A4 A$ X& J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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( z% G# S6 n7 A: y$ Kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 |% S2 x" S" {0 N, H% H
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# `/ a, ~6 @+ F4 C
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......! R" |% t1 J, J
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( ~$ I6 v( `+ q
bro singgeihot and rest365days: `2 L! u1 e! ^" |
honestly, if there is jesus0 W+ K2 I- Q" L; b& R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ h4 U- R) |4 e: ~+ R# V' A
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 c1 R6 H5 r2 z0 G6 w1 d4 c* Z# Punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 m) H! \4 l, g3 n+ m5 {otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 B" C4 c8 V: A9 Y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: