jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 o4 n# V# a# vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" Z+ O* P9 o! ^: h, n% k* C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( B" ^3 k+ ~; w2 V6 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
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but why jesus need to do this?8 w7 i) F0 \: z6 m* ^/ a# }
punsihment for what???+ ^5 f" A6 I9 `5 f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 k$ x5 |2 l& b, Q# D  [& Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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1 S# i! B! S+ ?/ D! S- \just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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# r6 r9 u) M7 O1 G; K$ _yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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+ X0 w/ q" I. i8 y$ M9 i' P4 }3 Z8 M但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  d5 }; N" w' r& fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" I" c+ X" E' g* F2 n( E0 ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  a, a9 c: l, X* Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
) T/ J: K% l. i2 y& J' wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 `- A6 p* Q! ]+ p0 O0 l2 L% c7 qbut why jesus need to do this?
  b) Y( Z; Y/ a# L, spunsihment for what???6 ^" x0 Z! ]) P- J( a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ _+ s) j# q' H2 V4 y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  `5 d8 |  \. M" o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " ~4 P) t( @. p. k7 e4 j% \
what will u do???
- V" k( n0 V5 [# Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! ?$ @& o+ z" F0 X8 Y

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + M+ g* g. i  x
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 i4 v- ^& Y2 |0 j% i& C) W) l
honestly, if there is jesus# j+ _( k8 v( }5 d
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 X6 a- V4 b2 t2 i. R! A
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* T4 V* }, Z5 v; |just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 e% O; \1 e/ i7 I7 O+ ^/ c: hso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- {! O( Z4 r2 D; E9 p
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 H& t- E, Q& q# U0 S& Sbro singgeihot and rest365days
+ O3 D6 {! H$ V3 [& nhonestly, if there is jesus
1 ^$ c& z( o) }( N9 {2 [2 Z$ J0 ?; whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! h$ s! @# ^) _* y3 J' ^we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, |" J5 o$ p$ `; F7 e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: