jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 X7 X  u$ W( G6 d6 E2 ?2 ^
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架. w# ^: i* j% h4 p
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. s: t7 T% M2 H6 h# Y( l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, i* i. V& J9 @" v" z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
3 L# v( p- `5 O1 dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . y( m3 E$ s& j" ]6 O0 E8 j2 w( S
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: t- n' D( E1 E  E( g) utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) y* K; _# w  vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 Z8 n/ w% d1 u
what will u do???) _2 p: U7 a! U. ]' @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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, {( m8 Y: K1 O$ N1 E$ W$ u" ~yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- G* \: ^! z  o0 z# o" V* K6 O$ C, d

. n6 C7 H% j2 t8 u4 M但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
' Z* C7 C+ M' x9 }+ c$ Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ X2 ]: R/ p; ]; s# I8 jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( F; ?* r9 h& s% ~2 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
. L# P/ j/ Y; I; Y5 r: lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 |4 w2 b3 o9 W3 T7 ?( S' @6 _but why jesus need to do this?
3 P, i9 l% D7 [punsihment for what???$ q2 \% n7 v4 V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) }! N& \3 h, ~/ T& T6 a) g$ e; Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! g  [( B1 `/ w$ |4 H$ Lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" M; T4 a" s+ t& i! l5 Uwhat will u do???
. ~% `$ i7 g" \( Y+ \just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 _) Z$ Y: Z3 v2 R

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5 H+ o4 b; M: A. {+ J% u7 Isorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 \* p, t2 S( d) ^, x

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! d+ v3 X1 F1 ~$ V8 ?

, w% t! G" P! f8 U0 X議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& X: n" C2 n1 Y
honestly, if there is jesus( T$ f" \) b) X" e+ i4 G
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; }6 b( S/ z& ~- J$ x
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: ~+ l6 [: Y5 c3 C& iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 z9 t/ T. r% _
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; Q8 R& t4 t2 U
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 w$ h( P) J1 ?" _) g2 |
honestly, if there is jesus
0 ~- y& e5 ]" ]4 \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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7 s8 K8 F) a) p' Sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, h, A9 g0 ]5 G( k1 z自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. `7 S: g9 D9 G) W; Ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: