jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ K) g+ c. S' z6 U
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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+ X- P! S8 \: Y. ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: [2 d7 @2 _7 w( lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# d; w8 f9 j; B; j7 V' U5 Mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 M: Q' C5 k" _% {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 a1 D( [; J3 {but why jesus need to do this?# w; q% F# v) j4 N" ], v
punsihment for what???
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/ Q2 }$ y# q2 E' ^' V# P9 V) btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' z. n! G& d3 B$ b# A/ S2 P& S7 m* @but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  m- E) O$ J. h! y6 ~# v  S
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; f, `* S8 D7 U# q- b6 m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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" d% o) Y3 I* u: P6 |咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' g8 e0 r( b% l6 r
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, b- W( ^9 p1 a/ }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 `, g! V5 H  |# vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! Y5 B- V5 i8 S0 Y0 l$ D. m9 K" r
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . h  M8 d1 u* }7 [2 J5 K2 V) s7 Z7 |
but why jesus need to do this?
+ ]. v& F8 q- mpunsihment for what???& L4 H6 J8 W, C3 Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 A9 W+ G& B8 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 c" R/ m8 e* Y3 W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 M" Y) Z& d1 {. Z, |" n4 B) I9 c
what will u do???+ h+ \8 p3 h$ A8 R2 \) a; }! S9 a" o
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * T! ^; t* E9 G+ m4 Y6 y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 q& ^" F  ?" @/ L, v1 e6 a% c
honestly, if there is jesus  P, K+ s) t( l8 _+ u' Q" e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" K! J5 M0 }9 u& x0 n+ J  Swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' K2 j/ r6 X* C2 k

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 H( H) Z+ y3 J4 e& j
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# e0 j1 n% I+ F9 R" v2 U1 P; F" C
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) R' r! Y* ]7 j7 W1 s" w3 a3 \
bro singgeihot and rest365days9 q) D% i# P0 D. `( Y9 m
honestly, if there is jesus* o4 L" B" p" b1 S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: w' A8 i& n3 l; Q% b0 ^we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
& m& J! q' ^2 a5 O# T7 K% A* B, F, \自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: