jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& u# a& V. ]! i; F6 C
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' @" ?8 F9 i$ o* ^7 n( lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ Y  E! {4 B% e+ L% n+ p, r
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ B( _- w' f  H! L& O0 Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 e" Y8 l$ A; ~: \6 @0 ibut why jesus need to do this?5 K' M- b: e" ]- n# X) @
punsihment for what???
7 R& ]: f* u( G$ y* `! Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* C* q; e9 w& M3 y% H# O+ Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 q+ A( M5 d, b- c' O+ f0 J4 g, k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 H2 R5 r4 B9 N$ o1 v( U8 z
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% S* X" e$ G# ^/ K. a+ h+ E. J

9 F6 m6 a0 d# _1 V& w4 K但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  @* ^  w4 G: c, |0 `
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( Z3 v( k: \4 e  w1 V  cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 Y5 k4 l) r* O  H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 O; R) s" N; E, A4 {$ q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 u4 q7 x: W2 c! a" A% y! {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " p1 n2 `: m2 E+ T: u" Q4 U* {
but why jesus need to do this?
7 Q& S4 K7 F/ a: q$ v& u/ Cpunsihment for what???/ B2 ~' c( a% @1 Z: {, b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# ]2 d- G- Z+ U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 W, I. m, \# u. T( ]% i
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 A# l* F' ~5 ?  ~
what will u do???0 v' N3 g: W" n# T1 ~+ X! e. {2 z; L$ R) |. Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' R7 Q' b$ s' y( r. Y

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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3 M% s- @0 K# s+ L6 I9 g! W好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & A1 M, P% _1 z( I7 {& n
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  ~, j8 S" j' P1 R9 t4 D" M) G; }
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% E) r8 M: R7 k2 C; y3 N
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5 |* c( j  L: D  Y* K+ jyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' B+ m7 r/ R% x* K+ `& Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ f  k  S5 I3 B/ d: A% G
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ Y/ U  Z( c/ R
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, M5 `( A( E" I
bro singgeihot and rest365days# P7 `& s% H  o" _/ i; D
honestly, if there is jesus
5 w' m. b( ?5 N' \9 ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; j! |# |1 W' |7 U& |/ _& ?, G; F
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ Q( U, N/ Y, e" x' O
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: