jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 C. i& @/ o6 y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 ]* \" c( T/ O  S) ~) B- @) N
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; c0 k5 [" ^: e* u% N' N9 Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' I8 K9 @) p6 N1 u. ?2 S1 Z& J( qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 q( D! [# l; xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 d5 u5 g9 f) L$ J; N; amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . M9 J) k# s9 F$ A1 l
but why jesus need to do this?
5 H) ~3 T; m) Y% }1 _punsihment for what???- r4 t5 R& ^0 ~8 S# z4 x: ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 g$ Y* ^+ p0 |* U2 Z# s! Y% S4 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" I3 ^* F6 L. H% |5 v- cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  j: k8 w& Q+ S1 \' R, Q. fwhat will u do???
; k( n% z) C3 D3 x! D; ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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& l" f( P. m- J咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉0 `2 p  f6 a2 p' H1 b

  z4 N7 U" `  I* F2 M( P但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, B' T/ }- l7 ?" B# @
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 R0 |; b% d$ \) wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! R1 R, y2 D1 h% Z" M1 |; _1 hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# U! \8 ^/ T  F, W2 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment; Y  B( e$ b7 ~, ~4 m: N, y( k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 E, J. {! W  I
but why jesus need to do this?
: w% N( V6 U9 R1 W  L+ Hpunsihment for what???
% M( R7 v+ {+ X4 \- J5 \) Jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) A6 M) q: d7 {; ^& J: n/ otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 {# E  h! ?; @; I, ]) v6 pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 o/ `. r; r7 t
what will u do???& Z2 \7 f5 Z9 |9 m# j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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" o5 }5 X1 H. z3 F9 r5 R好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   `2 L! i4 `9 {( V, v
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 Y3 H$ F& O! {- z9 S( T% S3 f6 i' uhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 z" C1 f$ o" R) O: S6 x
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' ]( b* e$ m* Y5 W1 l, {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  r; r( ^% q9 z3 u
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' O" W% a5 o$ Z- b2 H! Q) C6 y8 \7 R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' H5 B: L/ w4 p! j' k; Y' i
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. E5 C' f& Q' ?. q" L
bro singgeihot and rest365days( a( u* }3 j2 ]
honestly, if there is jesus0 P7 {9 X, O3 o; D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& F+ }) D* z/ B- B- A* L
we can't blow him :cool:

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1 ]3 ^/ |2 `" ]/ w+ Y2 S+ O8 k  ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
5 b8 [- {6 q' P9 ]  k# Y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: