jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 N: U: Z, H4 z& J9 Q  `" ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) y( p* R/ N) J$ R; i* Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 H! @8 l* T' ~; O1 a. |9 n+ w% M& Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * J' o% [/ G1 b: f9 v
but why jesus need to do this?  Y: Y$ x" |$ _! t' U
punsihment for what???
0 i. e. }/ `, ~0 }4 b! f7 o4 m: kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  i! U8 k, r+ _8 P0 `- h& _  x% A2 y0 j0 i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 I- H) V  Y8 x5 r$ m7 I2 \# b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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8 ^% H7 M+ A, a) njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' R; v7 C9 ^: ~1 y6 x. ^

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: Q9 P  `! H) `- q+ a, f$ f+ U4 Q: ~

' \. G0 @! ]7 ~. F8 }0 J6 _但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# f3 |# u; ~" Y

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% }0 h0 r8 t/ k8 M0 I( A6 L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 s' g1 H7 c* g9 ?4 L' j& x+ kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  x: ^+ D, k" W  j& @/ [why this happen? just simple........punishment
5 U0 q, `- ~  z7 Jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; n& q/ O$ y& m4 J
but why jesus need to do this?
" t+ s7 y( z/ l& Z8 I; x$ W5 Bpunsihment for what???
0 W, v8 T4 ]5 y4 m- C" r/ }. H& j+ Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 z6 a% w* v! s8 U* u+ [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 ~0 {4 w* L) ]0 t: e  nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( L* b) H# V) t2 g( U& v
what will u do???& k7 g7 h; M' e& X; ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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' I5 z& Q4 v2 h8 G5 o9 tsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 k! c# U1 A- D9 v3 u; x& w
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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( g& e5 k5 B2 S% g# I, {  r好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 V+ Y: ?/ D# X# c0 a7 E" l議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, ?$ P1 z- |( }7 _$ k
honestly, if there is jesus
% W/ {- s- h$ N1 {$ U6 Y$ Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 `& `$ ]# p; \" ~6 \5 n* pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; K7 t( O7 f/ z- b

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- a1 w3 V" I) E0 O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; W& K' R2 \$ \# n* ^. y4 Aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 P( ~1 J5 q; r5 b. wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& ^+ ]3 s7 N  a" F& Obro singgeihot and rest365days  g/ x5 h% i$ W/ j0 ^9 U) d- ?3 L
honestly, if there is jesus: x) \7 L9 w: b; U: v" l( t( K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: M2 H$ r: i+ |2 a! m0 Q3 k+ ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: G. m) v/ t7 j
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" B0 }  R0 j" D
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% ^4 V4 ~9 a" ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: