jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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3 ~8 `& R; B8 X* K4 G) Kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( r* A: m5 D- E0 ~( s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- ?1 j3 ?9 j1 _9 b6 r# Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
7 l/ M4 T- i6 E! E1 dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( _0 r# Y9 v/ H4 _5 h6 u' S
but why jesus need to do this?1 ?2 M  S, h5 g4 E
punsihment for what???5 t( Q8 x( G' o0 P; r. t7 J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- n1 V2 p# J+ r! Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 @: t9 f# F5 A7 t0 Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 ?* A: C+ S# k; k
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 _/ d& F" E- q# d3 Y0 N; [
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 R! }" C. N) L; P9 _+ i9 G
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; l& F8 A, r' D. ?" A# H! n% d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 ]; E& o& ^0 [% k& l# q- u+ R0 Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- o. M/ N. m0 O: A. ?9 C1 G! xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 m+ \7 u+ Y3 h$ K* h0 R6 X' f2 k* V
but why jesus need to do this?) z% Z0 L. P3 j: ^- Z2 m
punsihment for what???
, E6 s3 G7 j( n* Qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* R5 A5 S' p: ~- d& h8 ^try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ y4 ]; Y" F9 \' y% U* n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! w/ ]7 G: n, O
what will u do???
* U- j; ~( s) \% U8 k8 g( Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 A$ B  I: s- T

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 Q; {4 t. e0 ^bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 Z& l1 T& F6 c5 F4 ]4 d$ J7 @* q# C3 Z
honestly, if there is jesus( k, r2 R- u9 ]2 H5 B6 m! ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" @2 x1 V* R( Z3 y7 Z/ \, z9 F' gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 N& {" \/ S; k/ K, f) k3 [* K
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( x" _( C2 x& h3 r: Z( b
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
; a# q+ Y8 }) ubro singgeihot and rest365days" y# j- R4 P5 Z- D- M, i5 |5 a3 {* }
honestly, if there is jesus' \8 ?1 a# |) ~) d5 Z& h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- \: v5 q7 u6 r" z! o: g
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics6 h& q1 O. b  _2 D5 F
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: