jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
% H5 e) E: ?. t6 F) T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* |$ s# U0 [) A3 U. [
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% \5 k' c1 b) |. w: ]; z6 `
why this happen? just simple........punishment- B9 A3 }/ m) ]8 u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / A! d, q7 |! T4 Q1 X
but why jesus need to do this?
2 u7 h1 n; Z  p( apunsihment for what???% q' G/ M: a- Y* |
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 Z: q+ S/ W8 S! mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; x8 {- }9 \" c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # A) O- O, i0 k: w1 G% H
what will u do???
) C. R3 b! ?. D; S/ C% u4 t3 ?' ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' f+ f$ M+ g+ c9 ^
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  U! |1 j* O9 a: ], ~$ k但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' l( L1 _" F3 D, Q6 ]; g9 U/ i

1 {3 N! J0 p# Z* n$ H! |咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 i8 Z- m- U( P9 K- v; b" o# gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 n, B# [# |7 u& `! t& N. [! ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 H6 U# P; e. ^# R. Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment% ]' H/ F4 X& `) P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" l+ D' }2 U% K) U3 y7 Ubut why jesus need to do this?1 N0 R2 Q3 C  B: T5 q
punsihment for what???6 X( G7 K( r4 W9 v9 _2 [( G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" `% j+ G8 {' b, }; g. x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: Q+ I9 Z0 h7 c" jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 f8 q4 U6 r) b6 v0 N  ~; _what will u do???
2 n3 E; G6 a2 x2 N4 ~+ zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 I$ I) f- q* J! P+ ?

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: Q/ T: [" G; ^6 T6 @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ k% h; V' [, E: \7 B* F7 |
honestly, if there is jesus
3 a* M! E1 ~5 _# k! mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 M( }; d  Q# p' W& y/ U- j& A
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 x# f/ M, a; O+ X. _3 }0 m

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6 ^5 }& e( J0 C6 ?4 m; |" T2 y* N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 @$ P. D0 T5 d3 V$ R- v' }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. T1 E& H. |8 [) F
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it9 ^) S' Z4 N+ w1 P  S  c. |( e/ x( t) h
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 V; O  ^$ W! k8 }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: w! p( ^! n; z9 Y9 ^5 u8 F
bro singgeihot and rest365days
- r6 V3 a$ K* T; N$ q0 _honestly, if there is jesus/ W6 p0 Z) W1 F" g8 N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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  w6 p6 r' T* e) P* Y7 dunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 M/ s; t* v9 wotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: u2 m5 o' Y( J- l& K5 R2 h自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: