jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
6 n$ ~  q& ^5 a# X仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 N+ F$ y4 ^+ c6 G% W: K, a5 r* N
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) \/ o5 t( S( {' ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 W( C+ J6 v, V" H% g+ ]5 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 ^9 F$ V; A* _8 t3 J. q4 W' i! ^
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* B0 o1 n5 d' [9 gbut why jesus need to do this?- l$ G; \1 ^; z7 S. V
punsihment for what???& x: @  v* I- P* M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 y, I0 f: g1 A, W$ Q9 Q% z: utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 {2 }: S( U3 f% O6 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& S; R* e6 W& q# }$ k4 K: gwhat will u do???
4 z) f. H! p- q9 J2 pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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2 E# Y( n) e3 O: R咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( a$ j" r4 g) b5 ]+ w8 g; M  W+ K  t

& ~7 X2 H8 l+ D. n咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' Q  I5 R2 Q1 J8 X# a
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! {( u7 P% N( Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 ]  H* Q3 t& {: Q2 w! q, ~$ Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 t# l' o2 R% ?' _6 H0 @6 }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; M# C* f5 V/ t$ W! Y1 H% y
but why jesus need to do this?; S: `# _, g; l5 p  h" M( J3 g
punsihment for what???# j/ b( G6 y& V; z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( B/ a9 g: _9 N* qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 p& a( T: [( K3 Y1 @7 \: }% G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( _8 D3 j1 T# X3 C- s% q# g* ~
what will u do???. u2 X8 p  l2 p5 \* h3 a6 e" E+ Q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   [3 J$ {9 b7 `

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5 n5 k/ ^8 b6 B( ~+ osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! G) W( s1 ~& E9 K# I7 B+ k2 y
honestly, if there is jesus" H" o3 x8 j: A6 C+ T6 P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' e- }& v% B# g& r% r) z9 p0 Wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" S5 r4 r; g) Q
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ |9 c  R  J; F- j; x% \yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" J; r9 l/ A+ f0 i7 ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) \# z7 E) L4 w6 ~7 P, l# {; _# z" `
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& m3 o4 u7 H: y) f  q- r, v8 L0 ~
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% r) p. o3 E5 ?bro singgeihot and rest365days& J+ m, I& [8 t8 o& H; R
honestly, if there is jesus$ d6 A4 c3 @4 U/ z5 J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" }! u- _. ^( l9 w6 J& Z* }- X
we can't blow him :cool:

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, j, w" Q7 j& d6 E2 S) y0 |: r0 wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 M+ ]9 k: F' @# h- N9 T. ~" y
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ j4 W2 w" w, n; k) F/ s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 G( ^* J! W8 Phaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: