jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 _6 Y" O* d, q+ s% K7 T8 c8 ^$ j2 i仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, [; f  E: J% c2 s
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! ~% }# y  M$ a" qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( ^1 ^; V+ t( D2 ?' V( R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 \, H: P& t* f3 Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ j' B! V" Y2 F  D, Y7 V0 Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + B: M9 A! Z7 r
but why jesus need to do this?! r& U$ Z/ s9 m0 D# m
punsihment for what???, m  Q) v1 ~1 s; o4 o2 [2 g
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' L' B: o9 x0 d( ~; L7 Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 ]6 r6 j, U( @" A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! \% v- w: q+ I' v5 Q8 s5 ]- F7 ?! h
what will u do???
2 u+ w4 N2 z# V, y  ^% `7 kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 m; s/ @; h, Q4 Y$ s) p咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- }- U: J8 i, v2 t1 ~3 g
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* D! V3 g  J+ z8 K6 b8 ?
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 V& ^# h/ j) a7 `* {$ i
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' M% j- y, }" Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 Z" [( W& I" ~- q* tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . }6 H9 ^& I7 Z. C7 n; C
but why jesus need to do this?3 n5 G; t1 d) A- N5 O
punsihment for what???/ Q6 J+ H2 W$ I/ p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 G9 v# W, X0 l, x( A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% x' S- f: \0 Z- v7 W, f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # @: C8 d7 K  [; W
what will u do???) i) u. a/ E' O2 o2 Y3 ~- v
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 u4 j  g" q4 J9 {

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' H( }( V# Z' G9 V" A% |sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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$ c; A- p3 a' g, p7 p/ J; Q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 ]+ r; h' ]& ^& A$ C1 Fhonestly, if there is jesus
6 k2 S: O% R9 b# d, R8 t6 g* F# nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ G* D* m: E; Y4 B9 I! twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! S- s8 ^, A9 k4 J. y* \* g/ u

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0 Q3 v# L- L5 z- A) N4 h" L1 }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 |( |( g) e0 o1 A5 ]+ X
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it6 ~$ {5 P" G) u# I/ X2 k) i  h1 Y2 M. u
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; t% T5 e& u2 z" A# W
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ |: h7 `+ W$ H  m- D: Obro singgeihot and rest365days
; K. @! A4 s9 w$ S# Ahonestly, if there is jesus3 \3 F3 \$ j+ q. I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! ?5 T- l. y! o* g, dwe can't blow him :cool:

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) o1 b4 R" F( @- v, Q1 }6 N: ^understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ y) F4 S2 e* c7 {1 ~otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! l- d0 F7 H$ a+ {" \; d
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: