jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 W# f1 \6 q* c7 M+ L; J$ O. P5 \
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 h$ F: N. F7 i: W
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5 N. [. Q, @+ T! Y# w9 \5 mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% {6 w* H3 X# ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 f: ~( \6 ^! c/ g9 j# Z& awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
8 n. S  _6 C8 Z- amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' \6 _, k0 K9 w9 s4 |, L
but why jesus need to do this?' A  w( S5 Q/ m! F8 y
punsihment for what???
+ C+ l: B8 x7 \  d" h. ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 K# u+ D7 O; Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: }* l4 l% y0 C' v4 |) N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 m: `# t! |" ^: j& K
what will u do???
8 \0 i+ k" Q# Kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) {5 o2 K# ]0 L6 x& _; }yes, what did u think is what i...

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  x7 k& c, z/ B: q/ W5 y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% Y. x1 K/ n' A9 `7 ~3 K# ]

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& J" W) J1 n+ f: D0 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' E: e! x# V$ C+ t9 Ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 N6 M0 j5 }4 u4 j' C* u
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 f1 r! Z7 y; V2 z* v! Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 n3 H5 a' u) e, q4 q7 Bbut why jesus need to do this?( S* m: P3 F/ ?
punsihment for what???
7 l: x( V% n8 N/ Q, Y& v; S; Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; w1 {* {9 J  p0 {  @' D% Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- m# ]0 y, O4 ?( R' L/ o! lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 E/ L) M! |4 ^# j: I" J( w: x# F* e
what will u do???
/ T) M$ P4 G2 _, Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 3 b# G1 j% R+ S( D4 X5 _5 n6 g

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. q3 Q1 m3 v# y/ O; y
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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9 [8 z3 x$ r3 \7 d好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - U; K( V* ]4 Z9 ~2 @  V
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. B  v8 o3 p3 p0 u- r
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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/ |( g( S- Q5 N! a$ wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) L- q( i4 m4 M1 v( d! a; v) I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 U1 \5 x- I' A: iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# g9 {( l& a2 L2 M* N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: ]0 M" Q7 q9 ]* g( i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 {/ R( r2 O9 g! P0 ahonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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2 a/ o& k: t4 kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 U& g7 W0 `3 \; C; p
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: