jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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" B  ]- Z* ^$ ?+ ?  x$ f9 [- jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: Q6 R1 O; y. ~8 O( z! Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 X0 _! R/ F) X4 U6 |4 ^8 M
why this happen? just simple........punishment' L* e" i/ z4 H" ^. m# q3 s* v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 a$ [! p& C' s* a* f4 t3 [
but why jesus need to do this?( @9 b. l0 W$ A, o8 A* ^6 G. Q
punsihment for what???0 W( O% L( s* ?1 w/ @  ?
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 z8 \1 \! Y  t& ?, i) ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# _, x: C% }  ?+ L4 |; `) K6 B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 @+ W# M# S* O; J6 @
what will u do???" s# f/ e1 W2 t7 O/ K/ m' E: i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 ~, k  c9 [5 k3 [# t, P
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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. |: n0 I. c' t* p+ G& K  [$ V但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排; O; O# m$ F7 O& A

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% z5 ]9 M. u2 J5 o2 w' K' d: g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ S- k4 `6 E5 ], P3 ], m/ U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 l' l1 W: p/ E6 P; O# S
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ Z7 S; H& J5 K- m6 ?$ V/ \& p$ p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 v5 l* Z  b+ R" g; m! H6 v
but why jesus need to do this?2 Z( g' y# F% ~; e% W
punsihment for what???9 t) H/ U( A' o+ e% _( W& s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 T6 o# Q5 x) [& P9 X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) p* g; ?0 @( v& l2 o  F+ ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 N0 ~& n. C4 ywhat will u do???* d) `8 F  U) f2 |2 _' S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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+ x& C3 l% I0 m! b3 {. u3 `sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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. y- _" k$ N! _/ @$ _  l議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, T$ ?" ]1 F8 e3 V/ chonestly, if there is jesus& N# U% F0 n, a1 e# i; Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& A6 @# W9 S6 F, w+ Y9 \
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. O( O6 u1 `4 N- T2 F5 \9 s
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) \2 r/ ^+ {+ [* N( u$ d  x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it/ W, `0 H4 R, u% U0 D0 _4 ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......0 e& d2 g" p8 D) p! |+ T4 i
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 j( D5 X* I  h# E# Abro singgeihot and rest365days& E9 @" t$ P# {3 l& y0 F. o6 F
honestly, if there is jesus
- i8 ~% \8 \% m2 P8 A. F3 xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 E$ c; u+ n* W9 Q, {: ywe can't blow him :cool:

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, o! K6 E$ U$ r$ ~understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 F7 j: j9 k' n: i& Kotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( B; j- ^2 T! z4 y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: