jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ d) ~8 `& \8 {9 i$ M# @8 o
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ S0 T. Z/ s! A1 g3 h
why this happen? just simple........punishment) A  ~) M1 D1 p, @
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) W- w; c3 i2 S2 G
but why jesus need to do this?
6 U2 e' M- C5 X* r; ?: P1 Tpunsihment for what???& y, C6 }8 G3 s1 f8 {6 \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# V1 v) d( E" |$ w1 L4 v: ]9 _1 A! t4 g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ p9 }# E9 A/ x$ J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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  C9 }: w; B. X* Q. x% t9 iyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 p: C  _, c5 a2 @; K' T  M5 Y: \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% |+ m# c' l. o( i; S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) D0 m% Z% q3 E) U+ [& obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ Y4 I( c4 H: F* Z8 ?5 {/ |6 F6 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& p3 S- C$ g2 S: h
why this happen? just simple........punishment. X7 S- p9 X6 K: l5 Z' k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) n- ]5 m( V) m+ h2 ^4 e0 u$ v
but why jesus need to do this?
& x# Y. _9 A$ Kpunsihment for what???! L6 m) f. K8 L2 G* m. k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 ?0 u, }; z2 j$ Q% Y; q  a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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& l# e2 {% q1 A, I$ Swhat will u do???: P" v+ ^4 }& M1 @& w: X, e9 |& @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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) l/ w* U- u4 A  y9 }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  N9 u, l$ ^; W8 G: }4 z: Xbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * I0 p4 g  [' U7 J" u9 e
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 J0 C2 m# X" I. q7 E
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% s/ \% E" l# X

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8 u4 @$ @+ d  v+ |; H8 V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 V8 g% z+ O1 z9 Q: g! ]7 n4 h
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ N8 r8 Y: t) t2 W! d
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... a4 g9 ^1 \: {: [. g: ?
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" V, n% g9 U8 p1 _# \( ?% y
bro singgeihot and rest365days9 Y1 d6 H( \( b7 F
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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  |( g+ |5 b% y5 A0 m( v" Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 M% s/ a* N9 q1 m1 ^$ G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ g9 n2 l" ]: a# S! \
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: