jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# Q2 t3 a3 y& d) }6 d' I; I
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架! v$ M0 M6 [- f
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  J# I0 u" g; Y4 dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 O+ |* i3 u& J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: x* n: a1 M  `' jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
( T& M7 g1 \! L/ b& K% b9 gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' i$ |5 g/ [" F0 n; G
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 i( u% |! D% {* }1 r; Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& X* a" ?: P! M% p; R7 e2 A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 v+ M' S, h( [& w4 j0 x
what will u do???9 h; M1 K( |1 a3 p( }) a% C
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: ^- W& m/ N# F. ~2 a
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) k. @2 w% a- m  ?9 r: }
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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/ x4 Y- p2 b6 s. g咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 O/ |' O1 I( U8 V; T+ vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: ~" W# H5 o+ Z% Y! o1 s' E8 Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' g; A3 Q) l( D3 \why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 o9 G: G9 n- v; I9 |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 k& s" l$ W. D) B' ?$ P* X
but why jesus need to do this?
7 M% M8 k4 k$ Q, [4 S8 T; Upunsihment for what???6 _& N) g4 u9 n/ g( T/ E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# M/ f# h. J% J' ~; p. s, x/ P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% O% V2 F8 B! d4 y; G( K& J* C! s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + b1 a/ Y$ A. Q0 V
what will u do???  P  C2 l$ L& p3 A! I8 y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / \- |) u2 R+ [; u5 w  ?

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! t, h% X( U& l: o% D

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " c+ d/ f* z' l! \
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# M9 A. X8 s  o" w* Q6 p) n4 whonestly, if there is jesus" @/ V; o1 ^% a* X$ A$ T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 Q% ?! \) x/ T! l/ lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; W' a5 Q4 e: |6 i8 O4 G

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. X* ~5 d0 n  B3 @7 M- t" t
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......! S- ^7 K1 H. o: q% ~+ n
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 y. _' ~4 t' @) k- b" t$ pbro singgeihot and rest365days
# h9 C; s; _/ j0 A/ `6 nhonestly, if there is jesus) j! F' O; u9 {4 x$ x6 |# b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  A: v; S' w6 T
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 _5 f5 s# `! [+ o- p) {
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% y% m1 k. _+ T& s7 V
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: