jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* V3 q3 R3 u) z$ F& f9 ~. }
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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! V+ L& Y8 d. m. U  Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ ~( E6 }/ p% v7 y/ j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 }. |, K3 C: i0 k* A9 P7 lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 V. K8 I0 b4 O: h$ Ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . {9 w, |, M) M
but why jesus need to do this?
- a4 ~8 k, ^0 U4 L. G# w3 F( ppunsihment for what???
3 D' I0 t; l" I& L1 L6 D! Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 J0 ?5 k! a8 E. ]1 p0 m" l+ E
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ ?3 i  ^/ P4 \  j* I/ b; E5 r. l% P
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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0 J3 j" Q% d& w8 H1 N9 d% yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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. ?3 ]# }5 W: ]. [  {' b+ Z& [yes, what did u think is what i...

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# E4 u8 D5 R  W* e/ k5 C6 r咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- n0 [1 G/ B6 S2 @+ B

4 ~8 {2 W7 K: h" B- N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. K3 S  }; [" v1 ~6 k  ~/ g

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 G0 |8 l4 e, T0 F& y% Q% N5 M/ ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! c& G# n- Y$ h1 o( ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ b: w# M7 z: `why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 }- B3 ], P7 R9 H* }0 _7 U3 zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 T& f( f& l  \2 ?5 l' w, E; ibut why jesus need to do this?
( ?: }2 e! K# Q9 k4 Cpunsihment for what???
" x- ^( T  A9 g$ E1 [9 @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) z+ p, X$ y9 v  z3 Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 R9 ^% E0 J% p5 {; T/ Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , v, U3 N5 k$ c) G; T0 v' Z
what will u do???
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/ h. i6 ?4 N, Z8 V$ ~1 n% [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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8 V- v9 f: m' S5 h- q  x+ i好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' U# |5 \; z- p0 a5 Y$ N2 i
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
% r- b' U8 Y* u/ v6 Q. U% x3 whonestly, if there is jesus. U5 o$ }) w- X' ?/ i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& {, h$ }9 A0 T5 hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- f0 P4 w6 ^8 q+ ]& t( w, M+ a+ w$ g

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 B; p/ K* N" d$ E3 R
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 ]! b$ t2 ~# ~1 S1 c
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ x! H+ f! d# ~7 B6 H. w
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ C- g& o; O( a0 q7 Bbro singgeihot and rest365days2 Q* r6 k& y5 R
honestly, if there is jesus, n, ~* }, l2 W' a/ n' {
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) `, \9 I5 ~; N
we can't blow him :cool:

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* Q/ {$ {) I! F3 v1 n8 t+ e* Q* sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% F8 d- q6 n7 I7 Q% T) u( c$ l
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  I2 T; A, S6 Y, g/ g
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: