jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& u1 f/ e" \+ m; T' x; {) U# U仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架) A1 @3 f  k" ^& \0 Q
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; H0 [+ R' A6 ?" p2 C) R3 V+ Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  V1 q% Q( H% y. {) {: F* y* A7 L
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 G/ [4 S: U* I& k5 swhy this happen? just simple........punishment; R% u7 I- B6 \" v* ~! _' Y0 D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 }3 k# a% q. x  y9 R
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 a+ V/ ?: j% H9 ?# A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, h; D+ W2 ?* e5 Rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 w( G* w& `& F
what will u do???
: _' t. l: {/ \. J( njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& s3 K- M; d2 U- ^
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ z6 [- m+ v& w8 D$ R
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& l/ R3 q  u: Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! y% {; M+ O2 e8 J/ _" I3 w! Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment. z: ]- q. D2 A4 n4 t$ s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * N) E9 L- Z5 N& K" y+ S
but why jesus need to do this?" T4 h4 h6 V6 R! {6 `* |0 L
punsihment for what???3 u/ g( i% f  H( W1 L$ Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% X3 q' d' j, b( p( h4 n
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- @( p# ?: U$ A& N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. y* A# ^$ s) S! iwhat will u do???
9 ]4 ]% d# L2 V' {just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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* f. b2 M% F- W/ H( t5 o9 I3 |sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 h" s! J# u% E" Q
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  c9 t+ D, d& ~- D3 \1 X4 `4 hbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 ?: L8 g8 H# e3 n# F1 e( V
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' d4 `/ c. a$ b  r/ }1 b: z
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ |, D# C' I: B3 Ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
1 ]& r/ b) }9 e! T: A/ gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" ?4 r* c) `# X3 u
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: `0 F* W8 E  s6 j' x1 C
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 U7 Q+ p- Y$ v% V7 u+ g
honestly, if there is jesus  X8 {' N0 M7 [, O1 `) v; J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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5 M$ x; g7 K1 X" `1 R, U1 Kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 V- g0 q; t& n. H: R! m8 J$ ~
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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0 H% L1 x4 w2 Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: