jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:5 L( W% L- o- A' E# }  s9 c" S$ @
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架3 o8 ~3 M! F/ t) [  b4 ?  E
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) O& }* V9 r1 e. w! R, _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 a1 J' W3 b  O9 A1 v8 n& }5 ?why this happen? just simple........punishment5 I$ l: d3 S% m% D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - S: U: U! F* a" m
but why jesus need to do this?
1 H1 R* O# H. W/ ]2 dpunsihment for what???
. K1 f6 K% i  Y. ?, G1 Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 f7 J, P# L0 L4 z8 Ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ P. S4 x& V6 M; d: ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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: j, _% p' o0 ^" G但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" B$ ^% a; h! F3 W; Z3 N6 X5 cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 z5 I7 s; G) y. Q) acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( x$ o+ \8 G4 D. t( d! _7 v$ k
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, t& t) s2 p. Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : ?# L  k/ l! T2 ^' L* }, D
but why jesus need to do this?
. G: R9 C, u$ f: j; ?% Jpunsihment for what???, \' o& A* y5 \$ @7 v8 t& l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# f: a% h$ @! }* q+ V) w( F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 h- G2 R; ]% W7 I& L# ~# P( ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - B9 D. I! N, G$ k$ B3 e* j
what will u do???4 q6 O# z1 }4 _) G8 {4 V9 i3 E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 G0 x! ^4 V# n" \  X! A
honestly, if there is jesus; e0 \4 v. F5 N: v. {- O/ Y- `! W4 V! y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 o9 O1 n/ P/ L$ J* Q; V/ Y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' v+ w+ {) D6 Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- B9 L- Y" C) L, A! ^
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# _$ k' N7 z  p" n3 w9 B7 Dnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; ^( l' h+ W. n
bro singgeihot and rest365days" b& I+ Q/ ?; S9 Y4 I: l! z
honestly, if there is jesus& ?9 Z* ^# ?2 c  k* W! e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 i, n6 j, R- N' E9 e" iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics- _4 b4 o* G. I  x+ D; K; O/ P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: