jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  s" L$ z! x$ S- H仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, K5 i! C+ Z- ]5 N$ V/ [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 Y5 v- |' d( q3 E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 V  `! ^  i6 l/ x! Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
/ X  @( t2 w$ d- D; W, p  j% {6 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 T/ i/ \  @( ?
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  A" T6 \0 ~& L, R$ h' b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' j* a. U3 G! V; \- j7 Z0 R# }& n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- R/ S  f! d5 O; h! a7 w0 [; k
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ O% I) y1 X' j# ^7 |
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 g! Y) `1 x: W: d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) E6 k4 f, D. w2 k; cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 V6 a; B8 Y4 n1 e* k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   W5 R5 v; v' h
but why jesus need to do this?8 `! C- y+ o5 g8 |
punsihment for what???7 U. t) v4 N$ O6 b& d' ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; s6 ]- j1 V7 Q; `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???' J0 n* t9 }- h( @* Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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2 l) u* A8 A" @: n) l* Wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' i" B0 ]7 m- b7 k

3 l% C) k' O4 u6 g! [$ M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ _% n$ j! q1 J- @" Z
honestly, if there is jesus7 R8 C; B# C/ F, p! d  u4 N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) s6 e: a% a2 q  L3 y+ |5 N4 o

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! g/ I1 d; {5 k& u8 _* _! _9 k
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus  ~* \! V9 z6 z! Y" w: z/ @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) q6 ]3 G+ P$ ^3 {, L# b7 R
we can't blow him :cool:

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  I6 F7 x% n+ V/ X) }% P: ]understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 E$ |: q* L+ E  k9 p
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 Q; e0 R4 h) F: I
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" L# n$ J% N8 Q- |$ t  yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: