jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' X# T+ R: a" }' D8 D( m2 l- L
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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5 R: e1 y) f+ b4 W7 B* ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' v" T, B; J$ u, |
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# M  P/ G2 w" l- Mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; F2 _+ _& i0 k% l0 |( Z! k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: @/ }5 c( F9 L) O+ I8 j8 wbut why jesus need to do this?! {1 j- a& J4 Y- d, k0 `9 Q/ x* u
punsihment for what???
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- a. o8 L; Z0 }7 ^; Wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( b2 \. U- W  o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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8 J. \$ s+ w4 x) V" Ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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' E& e: n2 }9 v" N/ L& ?8 `yes, what did u think is what i...

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# @$ d8 I* B7 z$ {# E咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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: n6 J8 k( c! _但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 A9 n' u8 R3 x% X& ^6 J
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 l2 C% O+ ~% T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 \% B- Q2 R% o  l. i- P, _1 ]why this happen? just simple........punishment; H5 O1 Y+ K4 _- L2 D6 ]( |7 t, X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ F+ Z" y6 ?3 W+ G  Cbut why jesus need to do this?, J9 B7 N! u+ r' O0 I2 D: q
punsihment for what???- o1 \) A5 x; R7 {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; m, i2 ?9 n* S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! k8 @+ i2 M' E: a" h5 C& lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : S7 F" W+ P/ a" o. e, [4 Z1 [$ |# R3 a! k
what will u do???
3 H( o' M* Z" ^- Sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * u% W/ P: ]! S; z) @5 _0 i

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7 ?: m7 t& q  |7 O8 Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 W/ Z6 _4 o4 y3 |1 ]  A
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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: l1 |6 Z, T6 s2 ?% t( ^好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 D' V- f, R2 [議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' y1 p; M0 l. ~& @honestly, if there is jesus
6 U4 X: |; M; O) }+ ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* M5 S5 v. D3 \& @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 P2 z+ y* b) m0 k' h3 T

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! u8 T4 Y5 p6 g5 }" M# g2 i: dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& m, t+ p) N* |5 f- H9 ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; |+ l& T- t: f$ O
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 Z& k( j1 \8 }now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# s" P( n4 J* Dbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 Y+ R* p/ y" W4 ~3 H& ihonestly, if there is jesus; \0 T% ^. {, V' b) x3 w( R( w
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& c- }/ }4 Z. k7 c
we can't blow him :cool:

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2 y- |) t6 M2 b) i# Wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) R  g2 M5 b. o# a# `% N# U
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 I: J) l! y/ d* @; r& `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: