jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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5 U" F) S* o- N- jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ m5 C8 h( V4 [$ pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! }2 m- {5 ?0 }0 S; Q; ?2 h
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 _& W! K; Y! v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # a: c/ n- ?( J7 h0 \, z
but why jesus need to do this?/ t" J0 l7 x+ C/ q) ^
punsihment for what???
6 c+ D- \+ U2 o' _$ g1 f' X/ K9 Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 X( r6 }7 J( U# M+ H# i3 Ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# w6 [9 @1 Z  P2 j$ Q( u* Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) S* f6 l9 [5 T0 D
what will u do???
7 U) Q- M6 P. j0 Y& {; o6 B' zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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; q% {; R7 Y% }" ^# q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 k8 q: y# B+ T9 @% I& lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. ^7 R$ z0 |' U& `+ H1 f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 Y0 V, S( L& P5 Dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! U& U2 H: ?' P$ D/ o" a" O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% [; J2 M& a5 L* K" A2 gbut why jesus need to do this?
# y- p. ^% [6 S* r( _1 g2 Tpunsihment for what???
0 T/ H- M: G$ c/ N7 ~2 ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 _7 T* k/ ?8 C, J1 @5 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 u, K- m0 b7 fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ L1 [; g9 u) h5 {- L+ z' Dwhat will u do???
7 X# S0 {1 p4 V8 h/ V( c+ _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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2 o4 W  c/ B% j# f5 @sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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% D2 N8 Y8 g+ R: gbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # W  `+ N+ R, f6 h' Q

0 l  P& q% C4 l) Q4 T議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: N9 w( a0 d, c9 \- O# ^honestly, if there is jesus
1 @; b( v( S5 k& |! fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 w5 H+ v, A" n5 t' @( b, twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 K8 K0 e+ U! Z+ H+ }9 ]
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 C6 ~& i" a! ^& j: T+ k# Z! G' [, r
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it/ R3 G) I3 Z" d  B: p* N2 j
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# o2 Q# _( B* T$ \
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% p4 B  ?# x5 O0 P- C
bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 ]' @  H, g6 Y2 _4 O# ~/ f5 dhonestly, if there is jesus( e. e3 J3 {( u$ M. l" N# v6 E( b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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8 T; V0 C( @- S6 H2 n" {4 Uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 E3 }% l3 E3 f) q/ |8 b& |, c/ Potherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: