jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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8 o/ r! w: t: \2 c. x$ h! g" mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" }1 Q! y# }( ~, m4 o2 \  qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 H* {+ I+ w; r# B" x  j. C: |' Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 a$ z: Y; B, c0 R' l; t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & |- M" w" p( k* w0 T
but why jesus need to do this?3 e9 B# J. ?& H; `/ `: g5 |
punsihment for what???
  N. E6 f3 P& L+ Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 p7 c& C8 w) }# k1 `; p3 i7 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  _4 l9 Y3 Q) p  B$ t& z' J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* v9 m6 b- D# ]4 C5 H$ Twhat will u do???, q/ q* b$ w% u! e6 L1 X' ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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; @. g# d* X' w4 ]- M* ~0 o4 p& lyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ {  u4 u& V/ x  w

- h, v$ o% z, P/ ?但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 \) t) P* g! k

: N. e! k: Z- a$ }1 p咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 x% d! K. |* o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: ~- N0 h. ]$ O0 Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 d( X# K. C" z
why this happen? just simple........punishment* j6 S) p/ H, G# K6 Y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, Z5 k+ L( c# G* j" O1 qbut why jesus need to do this?
) n& o, C* C7 j. H  Cpunsihment for what???' u2 ~# v. C  X) Q0 i8 S) T, `
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 x& n' y3 U* L# U# k* Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ i! d4 B6 T! v9 o- s+ N! Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " g  c  m; K& V( |
what will u do???
( y& p$ S9 p1 F4 @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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- P" N) R9 E9 W" bbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 l% q0 r  q' L7 p- f$ v) I2 [議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. k+ x7 `3 @( y2 u& |! @# y
honestly, if there is jesus
5 y5 o' t, D9 C2 n/ ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* g5 f, x! g- m5 O, d7 P" Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
% J7 @6 I3 U. F3 X/ D1 q. n* `, ?3 \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 {2 g" W. u4 j2 y" M6 R' ?) Zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% k# M  V: F, H- p
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:! G2 m' e/ s' i
bro singgeihot and rest365days
. y* k. f0 {1 i/ `+ hhonestly, if there is jesus
3 h  @/ B7 k3 M2 D# e! e5 nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' z) B5 q; Y* k8 X$ m4 Qwe can't blow him :cool:

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$ f/ U+ {- i/ x2 Nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
& i2 y! x9 A5 K  Votherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 H1 i) t5 z- P! {! k4 K自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: