jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& E$ S5 ]1 q( @+ i: {% }仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% C  ?0 R$ q3 J7 s2 M
...

) a. t4 y6 d' k/ E7 ~0 B! l
) N3 y$ w4 n4 H5 K" l# U; z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; y! o, _4 e# g- j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: }7 D% B. T' w" W
why this happen? just simple........punishment) I# B- f9 K& _' g  g; X) l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % W1 I8 r( h5 W3 m' U
but why jesus need to do this?
1 ]+ R9 R% f2 A4 U! {punsihment for what???! j4 A2 x  f2 m/ ~+ S$ X" L$ X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( G/ A: D, r  c2 f: @# v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  j7 m& R3 z) h- x( G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) K7 \6 j. c' `+ Q( C) M# S/ r% u( k* ?what will u do???
6 v4 A; S% F: ^/ R! Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 h7 I4 j& ]- t- b
4 V3 `1 @! c- n# [
* f5 O! r8 i# ~! s$ ]2 v
yes, what did u think is what i...

) [" R3 ~9 Q, I
8 B' X6 R$ \( l" Z! e, }
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
0 ^3 P2 a* ~+ c" K  S# h' B$ q: j6 \& S, {
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
  L1 W, Z: r) e/ k8 K
, E0 i. b4 b& A/ s' h9 Y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 ]1 V! T' z8 X. ^+ q; [% Q* k8 Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( I: P/ ]) b4 L7 p7 {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ k$ u8 M& B5 hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; ~9 K! k' {  [
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 G. k9 d! s; F7 ~  D5 R
but why jesus need to do this?3 u. s3 `1 b% E, u4 b# _# l
punsihment for what???5 ~& B/ ~- h/ D7 P* w0 Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( P6 a) e8 ^2 I* E& K; d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" s; v2 h3 }: X! B7 G5 ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 n) o* D( y* D* d& v1 I# C- bwhat will u do???
; C* \- z, y( E' o. Ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
! Y- a( o' s/ S& O

# c6 t5 _' P. A  ?$ A/ n& z3 k6 s6 K/ M) j3 T( ?+ @: o
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 q2 Y! F; Z- [; L: I" ^5 U6 F
7 f0 o6 H# h+ O1 o& \
* D( d" u7 j7 j. l8 W& r4 Mbro, did u know that there is a...

* E/ ]# E' _" c8 H, K1 C4 t8 c+ K7 q/ m; M& ~$ s3 C$ _9 h

/ o3 p0 p/ F8 ?好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 m( C  q- m; K% z

3 W2 |( I) K3 D1 R! |7 e7 B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 D$ n; K/ G$ O+ L
honestly, if there is jesus8 j! J6 e# i& b, \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 T' X1 X* P. [6 L! z0 |# @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( o1 {  e$ w9 V3 @& ~
0 v9 x5 h; N( x; U' R* j* @

  Z5 T' I) \5 l! L3 c* g% O1 ]
0 K8 L! U1 T( t6 y1 ]好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

9 Z  b2 U& M% v
5 x; C2 m, N* F9 G" y( a! h
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; _9 P- s# s! J4 w! L: `$ t7 g: m/ U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) I& z& b: N6 T9 \0 @
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# h3 T# x  j- s: q! jnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 T4 X# C+ P( O0 d/ B% Gbro singgeihot and rest365days9 `- ?8 P# f6 C( F- `
honestly, if there is jesus+ w; F  t0 a/ W% M0 V  C9 a7 Q* M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* W) Q* i" s3 J0 n; vwe can't blow him :cool:

! z7 i3 y  Q# R

# F  a$ y) A4 K$ munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 x9 Y1 K, _$ R; H
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 j4 M* b8 B0 R# h8 l9 L- I自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

. }" T6 {+ l# m1 W
; W5 Q5 a  Q# e/ S* w8 ?+ f6 E4 |
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: