jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
+ i9 D& o" v& L3 r仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 O! r9 p( V" o, C1 e' a' m1 Q, M" `/ \
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. D* c: ^) z. a, j( W( l  F% G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 S4 X# J2 a& X% R& g  c2 j+ \
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 g& Z# |$ r) M! E* }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 u* S" }5 O7 U
but why jesus need to do this?
5 d7 ~+ F" m7 ^6 [punsihment for what???
3 b, Q/ Y& n2 D4 E: ]for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ k. b, v5 h6 @  w- x  s: x5 q/ Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( ~4 i! J, l0 J7 K  O+ L  h* `but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" k& ~( s& I3 nwhat will u do???+ C& m0 f( o; e, J, j) D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ A+ I7 b0 Q* H1 }

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- Q. ^, [2 ], i: {9 m/ \2 P' {9 k
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- B% i9 d, j: p' ~

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 r+ k. I' ~. b' cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 m& y6 h2 J' D! ?% B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 E7 o- {& M; i, E( Zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ E+ I% I4 Q$ F! K8 J
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  h7 G0 d; G0 h  w. q' O2 Y1 F7 j3 m' ]but why jesus need to do this?* m3 f4 S7 l) p7 g6 ^; z* S
punsihment for what???
3 @- h5 D. i% M' b" }7 h4 hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. _% ^. i7 t* D- O5 I  |( htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 D/ }8 \9 `% \- |) r1 e5 a' m+ n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # m; ~9 H1 X- g: G
what will u do???3 K" H2 L3 ^+ [* N
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 p+ H+ s5 p! A  W% \. }2 q7 q

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 o, w: X$ T( Q3 u
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, O3 |  {: F8 p/ |/ p* d2 v
honestly, if there is jesus$ X" [; V* _! S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 Q# v% h5 n( M/ y( J# Zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; s' W8 z. ]" }' h# h( c( c8 \/ b

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0 w) m% ]9 O( n6 q; e: S好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
  V9 _( B5 z& V0 H; M# J0 [5 njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
+ p9 k  ]" Z4 B, h; E! p* fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; Q+ R3 @9 ]: X6 R5 h1 D9 cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 l) e# u8 @) J
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 m3 P( X1 j! Z6 k& V
honestly, if there is jesus: y2 g- E! V% |4 h, Y& C+ d
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 H, s# E) I" G/ m) s' ?2 Wwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 c# F1 [  U" F. ^5 M! z# Botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 _3 ?4 q" U. d
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: