jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( n% e" H9 `, C4 ^+ Q1 P
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架# C: s7 q8 F& [2 q$ I. W( X
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% H1 w8 O' J3 F+ q5 ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( g  }, F: @$ O1 N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" d7 L+ [% a6 ]) M, D2 z+ ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, C( x) Q$ q% G4 `0 omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # r9 b* y: \4 t; M6 Z1 N6 e  N
but why jesus need to do this?9 j- k, y2 W3 x
punsihment for what???
/ i# \+ v( ~6 S6 ]3 @& d2 Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, B! x6 n* y" W' z! K# C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. o8 Y6 {. y! p& v$ y- ?! S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' Q9 `9 j) S- E- r1 T# a1 u

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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: Y  I! {9 ^; q5 x咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 o9 d7 X; Q* L5 t. r: X8 Y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! G& P1 m4 S- P% ], ~) q4 h1 R

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' N# i7 P$ f6 a- S! L$ c
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& ^$ ]) ]& D# n& x4 E& ^. V. O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 a! n; Q6 W" x: Z0 g: @& cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment6 l5 I) l! H2 Y5 X! L% _; R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - q5 e4 k/ U5 I, u3 {
but why jesus need to do this?( Y- [6 L9 X- S
punsihment for what???
) P2 ~3 M0 J+ k4 u) `  U3 afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& v" W' n" J8 i+ \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% N7 k6 _/ I! W7 U/ X9 d; u: k/ C
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, |  w6 i4 {- o1 G( |& O) Ywhat will u do???
! K2 E! f* _) _( g1 G  r* k7 |+ Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# H2 M2 {7 m' P4 j+ }honestly, if there is jesus9 w1 U+ A7 u7 o2 C, p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 [+ c* {1 j1 Y: \$ `$ g, Y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( ^0 o, C  P5 B& q' U6 ~just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
3 e' g  I7 D! q; f, A2 tbro singgeihot and rest365days: s. ~' [( ?7 C  E6 o# V
honestly, if there is jesus. g, K' F9 ?6 w, H' m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ x) b3 J5 T2 b5 R, N  |
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 m" F0 g8 C4 O. m* x3 @! p) f' s$ ^5 S
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: