jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 c& O9 m% P* u  l
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 p- h3 d* t( Y6 ]- d* {
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4 j* N% C- R4 q" `4 f; j, Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; o: r( X$ T: Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  G/ @2 ?; [: h- z" H' Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 H+ c/ q/ _  A2 Qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 `1 Y6 Y1 d3 V- ?) }$ abut why jesus need to do this?' P- i1 ^1 ~) q$ O
punsihment for what???
4 j* O) T# B7 U  T8 Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 j" B$ Z. K* M! G4 e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- i; s' |, P' |6 @$ {* qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   @7 u' [: ~: s  m  y8 V: X
what will u do???
$ k" c5 Q- J/ m, i& X$ jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 O1 a3 M( Z. K
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( x3 I6 u# v! y: [6 q3 R: g9 L+ A4 d3 e
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( n$ }* l0 X" s9 W( a( U# C0 A
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& Q9 y8 t8 u8 V  V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ W) k. ^: l' \  |
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ l! s( b5 Q8 ]7 M5 I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * Q, Z% }8 m% I# n1 I
but why jesus need to do this?! r: v# b9 V0 o5 N1 Q
punsihment for what???- E1 G% q# A7 q' \. V3 S+ G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ S. n! l' J- {3 p; r' q, `, A4 x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 Q2 d7 Y1 V, K4 o4 v$ t& j, T
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; \+ H, M6 |! y5 R# U" v
what will u do???
6 u$ k9 _7 a6 O# Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 s) ~$ m8 D. F+ H( m

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8 f: N3 `8 `# U# ]" Bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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4 }$ h) B/ D( S4 O: R3 Y( T3 `好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 K/ o6 I; d7 H6 K5 V& T7 S

9 |2 |$ z( X; b- W# o' ]議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 q. i" A8 m2 P6 u/ K& ghonestly, if there is jesus" K; v8 O6 w% M/ x3 V& ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 B# L* O/ \# T* x  H4 z4 R* Gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) {* {. n! a. Q, B7 z8 E/ g* z

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 n5 I/ v3 K/ N1 W, ]$ o  h: w( ljust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 a  [6 p0 z% |& n5 k
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  h+ x) \2 J! G: g3 G) l3 r" N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: p7 t# Q4 c$ o. a
bro singgeihot and rest365days9 l9 y+ B' ~9 U; M& O2 s- w
honestly, if there is jesus
! ~4 x: R# ]8 V% u1 [/ ~. the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 o5 w; D4 `! T6 j% w8 gwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ x/ K, w7 ]; D0 _4 a- yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
/ _) I5 G2 H' _  `2 H" x' E自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 f% k3 ?3 ^% y& D# thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: