jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:2 Z0 y0 n0 H& E/ A
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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1 Y% f4 A' y5 _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" ]. d( D$ ]' x! l' N* n% Z5 O& ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* ?/ b4 Z# l% {why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 @! z. {( A4 I$ g5 m# l( P- H, Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* }' E* [8 V) g' @! \2 W6 B1 A5 Ubut why jesus need to do this?
6 U( Y* c& Y0 t" H, t( T: G; vpunsihment for what???% t1 M. M2 [" b7 U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( f& r' ]: @4 x: _# i4 ]9 @+ @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, @; E) ~7 d* u5 e% c0 \2 g3 ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % X1 a) H( L  G! `/ `
what will u do???
1 D' Y1 A+ y# c* r# C+ tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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8 D* M) \3 W5 `$ |4 E但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 M( C" I% W4 Z& W  q0 Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* [, A" ^! x5 i3 v1 Q# scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# {5 A5 ]) X( S
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 j8 J: q8 b$ [8 |1 Y. b2 p* {, p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   V) Q. {" p' a+ z
but why jesus need to do this?) R8 [+ H7 y+ ]  r' z& S. y1 c
punsihment for what???
9 W" }1 b! N) gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ Z5 n2 X' K0 t, F1 O) \& T' S% etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* f$ T+ C1 m$ ]  W& ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! }2 P7 b  S+ l2 N0 @
what will u do???
7 v* h. Q8 V, E, x, w9 h, }8 n: }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 `! F& ~8 r2 \! {4 Z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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# d7 ~/ |- B: O7 m# \bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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+ {1 _0 j: n* D, N% T7 U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, U. ?9 O" T- g# ^/ k: T3 _2 Rhonestly, if there is jesus
. b# s' G+ c0 J- A$ {+ khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. \4 f/ K7 ^! d5 j& [we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# U: N: |/ e" ]7 B3 b$ T
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) _1 j9 a5 `5 l- |# B; z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 |1 x* W+ b$ a  v' ^. \so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......0 Z5 N; Q0 x$ y/ Z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 m' ?( q9 j- i" g. U+ a$ {
bro singgeihot and rest365days, M, k8 `4 d4 ?* F! o( J
honestly, if there is jesus6 o% |1 L* R5 w) q* L3 L: T; D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 g$ Q: B7 I) h) {9 K
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ C8 f4 O8 |' m6 _7 l+ c- {) N; F5 h
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
2 A+ k5 d- u2 W0 c: n自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: