jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 J! R. I& k; T/ s: _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; Y& V! n: _: k: dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 k9 g( @+ R# ?  O1 |, A
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ I9 n& X. M- r  d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( ]0 S/ n: _  n# qbut why jesus need to do this?
( z/ q( Q8 M: T* |' J' ]* N: `3 Fpunsihment for what???; _: ]) v3 {4 E( t+ y+ Z! r, K2 _
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' f7 i' i- _0 I( ^! }8 O( utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 [1 E& e) {$ w. r: n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - M+ Q2 S3 r5 T; ~
what will u do???2 z8 S! t3 K' F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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9 ^% v. ^& d1 D/ f1 O! p/ P但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 \) K9 n8 ~+ F
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) p2 J* Z5 b7 b1 C5 V1 r+ ~; _% ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% [( T& P/ _5 R. _9 R6 ~" E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ @; y1 H* v  ?" X" @why this happen? just simple........punishment
: c: T" w3 ?! vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 ]% A/ f2 {4 H) s+ S9 |6 r
but why jesus need to do this?0 F% a! `  Q3 y% E! Y- }
punsihment for what???7 q' x+ t6 I' D- @" R7 d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 i. j2 Y8 R8 Y5 W0 W  @6 |6 rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ z, K5 V# U/ G( ?1 |but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # y) R! @% R: f9 X
what will u do???0 S% ^6 @& E# s" b* [
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 l# a/ Q( K% y7 I好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + A) A! k4 r, S, r

" j+ `7 t; N$ Z. D議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& t& K/ U9 Z* N0 v, J
honestly, if there is jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ a1 w1 l4 f5 X! Y* F" y1 s# l; Sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 z7 D, n/ E. f9 ?/ Nso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" B; W! O2 _( S1 Z+ Y5 ^
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 \  M+ \; m2 c$ J8 q4 P; Xbro singgeihot and rest365days' {+ h& C3 M. Z$ U
honestly, if there is jesus/ j; R% o. h# a& P1 H1 f
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 P4 b& }4 V) K8 K6 A, M
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. {! G* X/ Y& A! [7 B+ t
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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% o7 h# B8 R% U0 @* I# O4 P7 Khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: