jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ T2 L, Q4 K5 U/ F: O! W# s! J- X
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架: h& t" W' k! }/ p, f1 h) e
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8 ?9 q$ k' a$ J7 B2 @  }7 j! K7 qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ R/ n8 W' O' O! f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# K9 k6 g7 X" d5 j- B& M7 X
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( Z+ ^% O* k5 ]- T$ |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 V! z$ n" r  V. Zbut why jesus need to do this?
  e: H( a; J0 }& Kpunsihment for what???
" c6 K* ?* \, q& wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' ~/ v$ d- @  D# R5 ~+ g' {' v& Q. Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ t0 r2 E3 E( u6 K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:( A4 p9 i) p+ T' d: B/ E1 s$ ]

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( N3 G1 y1 O8 J$ P7 gyes, what did u think is what i...

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/ z; G" S. A) ]* F' ?0 f咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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% C- G4 `8 r" r* P9 Y' o! k, _  J咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! |' r0 e+ U8 w, Y, gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ |4 b( e( M( u; U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: C, S' Z; l/ ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment% \3 D. H  H/ z9 x. W; l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; @) u* N5 W9 R  u7 [/ j2 x4 h
but why jesus need to do this?
  i* A3 Q3 T# _" A1 d. `punsihment for what???0 M% _' Q* w. l* u" H
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 i' b8 e0 ~* X. ~1 F8 mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! p$ g( |. _2 h4 q: X  F4 k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 L5 T! E, X/ }4 @, ?  Twhat will u do???. K3 @1 W% B7 P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 O3 ]1 w! l, G9 e6 M0 ]8 i7 J% Y

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8 [- h6 t0 \; w; S. dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  Q8 L& R' R9 N: J% O- s7 M. Tbro, did u know that there is a...

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; Y. i! y4 n  w好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ V* w. i+ I* }' e2 ahonestly, if there is jesus$ U- V' p0 a! S" k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ L$ q2 W9 x3 W4 K- O: B( d6 V
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 e+ t. y4 {. ^: e8 J- d
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" l3 \4 x+ v# _  f5 I4 U. y1 n9 e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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9 K, O3 @; S5 `9 H1 I+ R! Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life, [0 ]# `) Z/ L9 a, Z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 X: v* X* L  i! k  Kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( g" B* Y3 H7 f
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* V7 N9 ~; u3 L2 Y- ~0 H! b
bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 ]! D/ [3 C4 C9 P4 c) hhonestly, if there is jesus: B- p/ D$ X- n( d" x: `9 q; U  b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 j2 m1 L' F4 x" z0 I  Z* q
we can't blow him :cool:

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& \" Z* Q) e) E* Z+ D# c9 m" B5 iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ C! `, g% i" P# b3 S  cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 @8 G1 z; h4 M
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: t- E1 @. |- R' j; Y; \haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: