jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 f# [  z0 I$ t  A+ I# s9 s( U3 o
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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3 [, w1 n. c3 vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" p1 V7 }' t& X: ~# o
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 z) r6 d" I" V- a6 d0 U
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ E" }$ F. w8 Q  B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 P& z- h& D! O' @% Z6 _8 Z3 wbut why jesus need to do this?
8 ^! g( S3 \/ b# ^& W+ Xpunsihment for what???
+ H% M8 H2 B- L0 E( |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; f& e: b3 E- ?3 ~1 a8 ?' Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( `% H- m  {  E% p) X% Y1 gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 W" C! i$ c$ z! }/ U
what will u do???$ S) g. m/ U, ?/ {( G! r: N
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# M* A5 @$ A' t咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ O) r& l8 _$ T3 e" r$ W1 d

$ r# m: ^) S; n* b1 T5 |) ^; Y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 k( K4 _5 T0 K! c
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; j9 R# `5 t6 e) l% s( b7 tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ h' u+ k! Z! z# A2 C3 ]9 qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! P. Q5 Z: w- b" V- p0 B
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( X5 C# @: E! z! E) r+ l5 |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' S0 X& s! }1 h  r) D4 @* k
but why jesus need to do this?
$ ~/ a& g! a. s% f% C+ ]punsihment for what???. N0 n2 D: c8 E7 k5 F9 g
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 b9 n4 v" c! g+ `" q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ B6 \6 @9 G; `9 d2 a$ L. ?6 y% N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% W3 V8 e- M/ o& ], w$ }( Q/ {3 q) |what will u do???0 K2 o: o4 r9 Y, J; b
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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6 m# S3 O, L' n' P  h2 O好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 H# f' w+ P$ t  y1 l* {1 w議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 I2 K" }. L2 s6 a4 A' g
honestly, if there is jesus
$ z! ]! N8 N8 m" j7 [  c3 q7 J! Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' h0 \  D: g- }/ n- b2 X5 B9 k: Twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; @" [* d3 n( [0 v* r) V. s
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0 y* n% ]* b: z0 E9 [* U9 nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ \, ~% J" Q+ U5 R# @! u4 X
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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8 p& g/ l1 Y* ]5 dhonestly, if there is jesus
6 r' `  U- s- Q+ lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 F( E+ L2 V, r+ }: dotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- X6 v: H& u( I9 u5 _4 k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ q: Y& N" s9 M# {2 y1 S+ Chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: