jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 @; B4 p, v0 M+ t9 p" C/ O仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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' y+ r7 u9 U; G( X* ^2 T  _, f* Q6 Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' B6 j4 t! o* e: d3 c, Y* S/ P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! q9 R# p5 m) ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ w6 p0 L8 b7 K  I! [, A9 b/ kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! @% D3 x& n" ~  o$ {
but why jesus need to do this?
1 {! E, M9 R4 R  p7 @9 @, H7 qpunsihment for what???
1 E) a0 K* q+ v7 pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 ~! m* r% f+ h' T- [try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 g2 e1 D8 ~& C' _9 j2 j" b; ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + G+ W" o% x% T! B) Q
what will u do???
, o* R- w4 z2 l% h% d" D7 V' |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; K2 ?; G& ?" e# f

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 B; s, O* G$ v, T7 }, \

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- @% t, c% @6 h% g3 r+ {, S8 z' L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' n" p$ b8 J1 i3 o9 q- q4 Ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ O% f8 h7 R5 o  {  {( _0 H3 A/ |1 N
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' S8 T1 D; m7 ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???+ t6 L+ l8 X3 k5 n. I" @7 S9 c! j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 u% Z+ O/ S0 K# f& Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- S2 b% T5 {0 _4 \but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( x) |! d) m2 q5 N
what will u do???
1 K# `1 G: C: J" s9 `! |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 L9 `6 Q7 ]& z8 y; W

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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. _, Z, q4 B, ]! h( z: A0 _bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 c1 c0 c3 I5 \4 Q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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' u# A: {& f* e9 S4 s8 ]- K議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) x6 ^+ Q+ u5 S" P2 h2 N3 Bhonestly, if there is jesus
. o5 \* g1 g4 Z# fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 @: D5 Y" }( F1 U7 {) J+ U6 @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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" ?& n- \: V# u3 d" f% Z+ {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life, n/ ~7 Q' n7 o" e& t: J7 a' K. K
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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; ]3 L( F9 Z, r/ c! pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' c  X9 H5 c( j$ u" ?2 M. vbro singgeihot and rest365days
0 ?4 y2 @6 w- Xhonestly, if there is jesus
4 y2 O8 c( X; t' D# ~+ i; H3 V; phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 @/ Z2 x& T8 k
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. x, p& _7 V% T) {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 h9 j) |4 \6 q* @% v: ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: