jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:: f/ S: b6 u9 J
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 R$ ~: Z, E. R2 X: |  L2 F
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ d, t+ V+ b7 U. O$ W3 Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 P+ }! V0 N: R  g( a" A. m% D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! Q# C" }; C6 y8 ~8 ?but why jesus need to do this?6 \9 q5 W0 h2 J9 s5 o
punsihment for what???
8 G; H  q3 p4 n* W' u2 i1 b8 ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ f( `# c/ r" l$ q: h& x& P. Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 T+ B2 K: }- s+ `# Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ \9 [9 h5 t  i+ p- Lwhat will u do???
0 S8 V9 L3 z8 l" L  }# L$ m1 pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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. n" z) N  V0 Uyes, what did u think is what i...

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+ i8 P5 O! ?2 V& i& x咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ {) [3 R" b$ i- [

3 x3 y  [, B1 ?" b7 m2 A; V* C但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  n; h! \: z, {' Q# i$ ?

5 ~) v" g3 H- U9 q) h咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  Z  J7 U) y6 T! z( K. g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 I! S( @: l- _' A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. t9 R5 i9 C  H# C' |
why this happen? just simple........punishment" f' C% J9 |" G0 q; [6 c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ V( g/ N5 u2 H+ W+ A
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 z4 L" e9 r7 p  p) i6 L4 w6 g9 m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% @) ]: ?- d7 |6 Uwhat will u do???( ^3 j0 F. K5 F/ |2 B2 Z* }
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  j4 t/ u$ {# u6 W5 C) nbro, did u know that there is a...

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& c4 P& n* `. L: K2 c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 ~; l( G' f' R& F9 I& ^/ Q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 _, q. Z3 m& R$ u0 o/ whonestly, if there is jesus
# d& }6 \6 {* \1 Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. X/ i* L* X) ^# Y- U! e! Hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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" z0 Y- r& H/ g& s" C, p- H" l: S好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 e; E3 J3 X0 s! y4 K5 P& a# zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! `2 x# O) h9 G% Y; s3 lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 ~0 S( e) L( x2 B" ?' Hnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( K2 B! _$ S; ~5 o# D6 x  F
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! W! G9 S3 b/ S3 @, Q- _: Q- x/ ]honestly, if there is jesus% z2 I0 `  t! W$ X% [6 V! g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 R6 z  G$ ^$ r. m2 e# hwe can't blow him :cool:

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5 v/ c9 D; Y- funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
7 E5 p+ d+ z' E4 ]% C, Hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ Q6 D) T* D9 w1 {自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# W# A( s2 @& ]' T# i( {( Ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: