jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ C# E3 ~8 c, M
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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5 M4 C6 N7 Y2 {; jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- `8 o% x8 a6 g/ k7 I7 n2 Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ h$ L8 h) H7 S! U% {. _
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) w/ z# t% y. o+ w( Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& e5 n3 p  {- p+ W0 u$ [: Qbut why jesus need to do this?
/ O1 p/ r7 F& ]punsihment for what???
" k% _* ~* P0 R! o; _4 D& ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 A$ w; o; G2 D2 ?* B, vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 O3 _+ O9 E: a6 M8 }6 p' x0 _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- f1 ?2 [. x- e- z
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' g) S# F# N; M( `; N/ y" r) g
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ }# R$ ~" i( p2 s: \2 O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 ^2 y# W' O3 a$ ], s# G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. k: B4 x' z4 p" z4 Y2 R. V% c
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 I' _# k, C4 {( H6 S7 X! Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - d1 U6 L3 t9 I9 L0 [1 I' R% }( R
but why jesus need to do this?
, J9 G: }3 Y, F! ]4 ~3 Kpunsihment for what???/ b, j' k  E/ e# {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( A1 q$ t1 s) A1 f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; U3 c- c% i6 P# j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 r; K! A( ]. H
what will u do???
& N" E8 R! D2 z2 I% i: rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 s  e! w8 l" y& @/ R. C& c

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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0 @; a( w( Q% H6 a7 u好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: b" t3 @3 K) |7 u0 U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ V% N! l0 p" P& a! nhonestly, if there is jesus
* _. R/ ?7 v$ S- l( b& _/ vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  Y8 N, H7 I$ A: I# s' l- Wwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ [" s; n* u) _& e
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it9 m& A+ ?1 ^; {3 @6 q6 T
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 m5 r8 p* m  A8 d& P+ znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  c% |8 z1 o/ g& k8 E: ^. Z$ E/ V
bro singgeihot and rest365days) H7 d. {* T6 {/ b: a3 M, A$ ^
honestly, if there is jesus
( d: q2 ^$ k3 I( O) che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. d# Q4 Q6 `: Iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% d3 d# s" U" k  D" o+ A
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 X! M1 |% e- Q, {; Xhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: