jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% }1 E' L" U- b- ^2 a) Z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 O8 O$ \! i4 ?
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# K& c+ {- J# K1 \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ q* `. a3 w4 K$ Y0 s$ u. g* Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
. t$ ~1 _2 W; P+ e8 h9 A# j" bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * Y0 U% C' }1 z8 g- ^2 i- t( E
but why jesus need to do this?2 Y' }/ x1 E8 [8 n6 A- n& S2 A; U0 p0 Y
punsihment for what???
6 M0 G+ g4 W/ j% d7 I2 ?# |5 ~for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; n! j# }: I1 B8 \0 ]4 _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, o" A% n; x0 }1 w  Y; vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; G  \& S+ H; i* k0 Y" @* A但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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' e, i( s( T2 c; M. w( W& m咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* C8 m' c0 R# o9 L' @- j: T% P1 ^
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 \9 i0 H$ K# _+ X, U" G" i5 V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 s$ m/ K/ O1 v( C0 M: |8 }
why this happen? just simple........punishment" g2 }  `/ D) Q' y$ Z! f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( t$ l' Y: {6 _$ s. c/ Dbut why jesus need to do this?3 k# Z0 a5 t  v" W+ }$ C  [/ _: J! k
punsihment for what???" T% M4 J% M8 U; m1 m! j8 K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! Q; c1 D# |$ B8 _9 ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& h) ~& p, E; N3 W1 x4 |but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - r) L3 H) N5 C
what will u do???
0 q; P' h+ Q* njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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- [* I# D3 H$ J- c) m& j. x8 Gbro, did u know that there is a...

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* D$ D0 L6 R3 S2 D: U好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) W  R& c; {6 I# f0 l! T- Y: U0 q

% P9 @1 b$ `) W- v% D議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 f( ^/ ]% |7 u
honestly, if there is jesus' ~. E4 X& M: b# U/ P& V
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( W/ r0 E  s; r9 o! l3 X3 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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# g" H7 l/ _" [: d好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' d6 H4 \# o& R/ t! y
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' h6 d# ]: p$ c8 c$ |; M1 Lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 U9 Q. C# n8 ~1 I- _: _# \now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' v) _  K9 w/ v) V* ~bro singgeihot and rest365days
* `) E6 Z5 D- A( h& N/ Ohonestly, if there is jesus
3 |& U% z" e7 ~+ F; v9 y1 d( a% Nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 E5 _6 h$ z( u: e4 k/ A: bwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; u; \3 B& F5 R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
& o$ f3 f/ [! u" C8 b% q# z. P9 ~自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: