jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# C" L2 ?% ~, U7 g仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; W: E# Q! |% k7 k% `  T- o4 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" p, g; V& S$ x  J5 V/ i6 gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 k( H) ]2 e1 }0 x# m1 X3 }many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 S2 e5 ?3 F' I
but why jesus need to do this?6 h- M8 }. u8 z9 ]
punsihment for what???2 g/ n; i9 T% G4 N2 i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) i: _" M! y  X
what will u do???' r* k% t! Q( l2 \# [( |
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:( t7 ~7 H6 {- j

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* z: Q8 T& k, c咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- Y1 T( g8 Y  H; \; T% z! J) ~: H
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: T7 J! ~4 s1 h: }# mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. c/ `$ f; i- F1 `/ V  acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% ^5 D; x) {- e8 x/ Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment% E; `, l! \, k8 @) g8 c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 D+ Z$ ^6 ^2 m! I. ?
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 x- T" F5 ~" a! n9 O* R8 Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 m; F+ \* A  s, O0 Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 x% m1 J6 R) X8 U+ Dwhat will u do???( G0 k4 O; H+ i) q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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0 n* N, v+ ~' a! Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ T+ V8 c- C! F$ _' H' X# i% q

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " C5 e0 [. ~9 p2 V$ \( e

  D3 x) n& ~, }! A$ v/ P議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 Z" g2 U8 b; o' A" P
honestly, if there is jesus
5 N" L' v: G# L" u' ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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- F/ X  g8 b7 x# c( G8 e! r  Uyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ _3 H) h& M' _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. g) T  X) s9 B( D2 V0 A0 w. Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......: E9 a  ?+ ]3 L  `3 i7 i, H6 X
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 i. v3 m% ^3 K/ J3 \bro singgeihot and rest365days: B- z9 R, y) J0 `' k9 X/ V
honestly, if there is jesus
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5 f0 l+ ?  |  M  V! Ywe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ r8 L3 m0 B1 x6 k7 potherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 Y) W6 P6 [; B: V& `: j) k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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4 V6 Y$ N/ l& }, R. }haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: