jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 v) K; S! x7 |: d$ N仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
" L. A0 F6 i( Q  m2 X...

: r! y, h0 M9 B

9 z, M# [3 ]: X3 a) @% |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 f& M+ E" T; s) [3 }! ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ R/ R: _, Z: a2 V7 ^why this happen? just simple........punishment5 \$ R. C6 Q7 i2 W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' q* y) n/ m7 m" C" F
but why jesus need to do this?
6 n! B0 U5 J/ {punsihment for what???
! I5 b) L! [) O2 hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& W, N) X9 J& {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 w  N5 O- \2 G! F: k3 c* H: g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 M" R% }; _' Q7 T7 M* Q( ~4 h6 L
what will u do???8 M5 w6 ]5 j1 x# e4 L
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 m' A7 _! n/ e; `
6 H4 ~% E( R8 m' P, o  b* x

0 [3 O8 b' I/ J/ b9 P9 Byes, what did u think is what i...

0 k, G; R3 f* b$ A
% V! ~2 |) ]" r3 ?; I$ |# @% {" {
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
& {+ k$ a3 C' g$ N, N* N1 X, r7 l9 E+ z  x0 i2 I. E
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
. x& A6 u  f* f- }9 j  C0 K7 J! r! v7 a3 `  l2 N
咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ z. n. m) ~/ y5 f; Q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: W8 l( T- L1 f8 C4 t& i4 v9 Kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 \6 l' J/ s$ g/ `& o
why this happen? just simple........punishment* a2 W7 t: Z/ G0 Q) O2 {6 R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 [' d2 e. I6 b9 }% W5 Ebut why jesus need to do this?# h6 i, |5 [+ E1 z+ i, f1 o
punsihment for what???, Q; d8 X+ J  C" T& i. g) e& `) \) |
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# p5 s1 P) {7 G* r2 G
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, R' J# @$ ?" S& ^6 x* wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; Y3 ]7 M3 `$ k6 E
what will u do???
' [: W" F" o+ Y% S6 M* x  _just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
3 t2 O5 A2 ^+ C9 Z* Q

5 J4 V' Y5 S1 E6 g( n$ _3 a8 A+ M) Z
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ |% a4 L4 z7 w8 L
9 t: S5 H+ i( ^' K4 |
" c- L; k/ j; J* t' |; g
bro, did u know that there is a...

/ G2 [# o4 ^. a
  v/ r% n1 `! M6 v

' N$ ~5 y/ a0 r$ _! G" ]好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; w) C( q0 Z2 J' n1 K  \! C. z

: o! E" I. d- K" O議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 e/ ?4 x) k) ~7 X
honestly, if there is jesus& ^$ K4 e% @: B8 K! Z! C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 H- b: G8 k' F! M& O0 C; @9 W
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, v3 S5 e# O/ t4 l
2 x  X7 q. @5 T% e
2 v" e4 U; _! y8 t* k
8 \* f% r, @8 U
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

: }( S, V& {3 K4 ?% d* u
% v& `- {5 \0 \: D; Y, a. wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" J) ~1 A  A! Q( `just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
) Q; D  A, m* |7 h5 O, P* |so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 N5 X% Q6 `0 Y; [
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
9 @8 w; w) S/ p" Ubro singgeihot and rest365days, s) t2 A2 R7 d, r% {% l7 j9 [" I3 V' P
honestly, if there is jesus
, P' Y; C6 n. K* T) hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ B8 q- ]/ x( @we can't blow him :cool:

; `! v" @' K) p- A2 q
' z  T) B$ w. h; R, u
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics8 c5 X$ C+ m3 \: e& F
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:# y* a6 w2 f$ b
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

; e+ C, X% M3 C& `; x& z
8 S) m! }/ [. s9 z* N3 x; z) `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: