jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
0 [( }6 g) J6 ?8 R' Z! T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 M- x4 Y/ U6 x5 ]/ a% ~
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% H7 H7 c8 \) R6 Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ L/ ^2 ?* z( Y7 R7 Wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, T6 R- d: Z$ x, Z* _/ lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment' T5 Z- `6 O6 \0 B5 K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 D. f% k; m2 ]& W! @9 B6 mbut why jesus need to do this?# O# \* ~* ?9 T& V9 }: v
punsihment for what???
5 {, |+ Y6 b% Y' W9 pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) ?/ M* L% c* A# i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" A- C# @% ~' F, N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 Y6 ?+ s7 R! T7 F4 g3 c) _  g( m
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& p: P  v. Z8 d  N" }  z- z5 Z0 ~
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ i( [2 S8 x1 T! `5 n& a9 mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 q! O; z8 v7 \' w# T) l$ qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! D  f4 M# {& g  w
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( e, d3 B* r" a2 ?  h2 P. Q2 s
but why jesus need to do this?5 H7 X: V0 w3 d8 W) p( z
punsihment for what???' G+ [# {- p+ b; B3 ^1 ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, T6 y8 }8 R7 a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, t& h7 s8 \% q# `6 f2 qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! H' B2 c+ W! W- K# L1 b' Pwhat will u do???
& J6 u7 e. l5 M' ?) C, Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 3 y/ x6 }, v7 f% A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  c7 ?! p0 U% g9 m1 G

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& A0 E8 E4 u$ \$ N2 \bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 k* ^! [( W4 |9 T0 U- g
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: f1 }: m4 c# s1 a, ?honestly, if there is jesus
3 g6 q% {8 V/ I/ q* Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) f7 ]3 D% c' |/ u8 Z5 owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* e: [) b+ Z1 k  r" M2 w
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! s1 o& `' k' Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
/ n8 g9 f/ V: w! @: x6 Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 H; I5 O4 h: Z! m" @' {
bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 h8 B: Q3 t. [honestly, if there is jesus# T- M  y  G2 ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; k/ i, }5 ]- U# C
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 V) L$ a2 V: }- O  N4 N- dotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 k( l( I2 T3 i& A  E) Q
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' d4 x+ k4 k) C0 {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: