jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ b8 E/ M& j. j, X+ r
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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6 \( s9 s+ [1 k, G4 jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 M- f7 {9 o, l! a) M! T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( w5 P: U$ r7 U2 o" c+ i7 Jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% ]; @! c% I, j0 e+ n6 w& dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' h' Z9 m) c3 N7 W, h( b. ybut why jesus need to do this?
' b: @" @. q' s+ A$ cpunsihment for what???
! R4 {" r0 C/ o( j' A. |. Kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( v2 b' }' f2 s6 A5 ?- ~& u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. o+ _' P5 ]; f( u8 ~; T) X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 N% V" n$ e) X0 R8 p% ]4 u# \what will u do???
0 x8 W8 k: o$ M, B& vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 q% J* h; i4 b* s
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( `0 D6 [7 g/ C' L咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# D  g( y8 O- O+ w
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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# k% H, n& i) ?' c2 H/ A2 H咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 X2 G: L9 C2 Q8 e; ^# O1 y6 b3 i
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 Z: A' b! E" I+ L; K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) ^# g1 D3 C8 O7 j& vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! h  d0 b- \" S0 o- E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 n/ p* E2 v. w% S7 _; Ebut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# q0 A# x& T. g2 `6 y" [$ etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 o$ A7 \3 l6 }) o0 }9 s( h. I8 H) r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& Z% ?. B2 T3 J- Z1 Uwhat will u do???
0 Y8 K' w7 @5 y* Y* C& N3 @/ f8 _* y6 cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 @: S; L* d# I1 d+ R

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ l' U, G" D/ o, I
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! ~4 }) W- c8 o
honestly, if there is jesus5 g' S2 T0 d( N6 z& B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 G3 V" c: ?6 f" l' }we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 M1 K: I3 t" _" b
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. a1 V- K# s+ e. }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' r0 y* L: ~, k" @" o
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: ~: v; O$ A: L5 h) ^& qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 L! c( j& ]. @( w5 i, y% u7 r& ]now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus5 G! t9 U( V- B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' }( H# M. {& b# u9 fwe can't blow him :cool:

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. j* i8 I( k1 _3 [* B7 {) R8 vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 V  @- p  f; |% Botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 z( X! |+ S: g2 C# w2 N自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ f- q8 l7 U7 t% h+ E. |7 {haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: