jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& F/ i5 t; x; Z! G2 Y7 t- @
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% `: l* K' c8 [: }: s
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: c; o; _% @( X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( n. e% y7 q$ W7 F6 j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! k: c. i0 l+ S- r5 C+ amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% |( I) G3 y, G7 X* @9 gbut why jesus need to do this?
# h' r4 b$ j! g* Ppunsihment for what???' E! e4 Z7 d8 `! r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  H! x- N+ n- `: l3 F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ c: i( y/ ?  [! k7 d- z" P* J3 _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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0 v' i9 f9 u0 k9 j" ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; u. R/ {" f/ Y. t5 B: I, |

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ j: J4 _- ^) Z% ]. ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 N- h. @, E, B3 J

9 Q! @. ]! A: b8 p  i. A! N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 J: P0 A3 X/ F# t: Y7 `( p& S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 a3 w6 H/ Z1 p1 x0 r, J5 [
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- e2 N' d9 f& x+ h* ?, P0 Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 \8 D: H3 x, j6 k8 K1 O$ \; Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! s+ P7 I# C7 D' ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! \& x, u1 K& C% w* ?- Gbut why jesus need to do this?
/ i$ N6 S" b+ z" `punsihment for what???1 i& C$ r4 e0 [1 p# \$ l
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ S: m2 P& S# T4 D/ [, ~6 Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; ]5 p) [, w$ Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 q* C: ~3 g- Jwhat will u do???7 l" w+ d3 l9 }& h
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / \. [7 k2 C8 W& R

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# x1 t9 I7 p4 z
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% H6 e. l9 ?7 P! Y6 d9 Q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) T+ n! Q9 G: f7 K" hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 |, f! i6 j8 B$ x2 F6 Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 h: k7 X4 B( V- b4 \
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 _3 X5 A0 W6 k, ~4 O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 g: F2 }5 C4 `0 _honestly, if there is jesus6 ?# R, o* x2 |* c: |: C9 R; r' x
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 t/ s, X( c/ w  P- w, \
we can't blow him :cool:

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; s. W; b# b0 P- D# ?understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 \- Q# Y+ z8 r9 f- i- N自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 _  _( q9 `+ {& ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: