jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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% K5 Y* ~9 ?8 U. [4 qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 E; l3 t+ X3 ]( scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 r7 X- D! f8 }
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ [* ?. \5 G7 A4 n; Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 R# o9 A& }  o3 A5 w/ r; I
but why jesus need to do this?
& s0 t- r' p, E7 ?/ V. Y; v% M9 x% ^punsihment for what???4 Y3 H3 ~) U, d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% U; e4 X, d- M% I5 M
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
% r" `( `1 W( N: q! x) [3 B* s/ K, ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 O/ E) O8 o; f; Z7 ^, e# u$ Q
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 h7 f6 ~6 m5 \  o( h9 K' c

% u9 B% U, q' f9 M但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 P" {* ]; I9 m" w& s9 Y
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ J5 e8 J) ?$ u& B, }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( b# _7 D1 o! ~$ z- q( L5 [
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' i( d0 j0 G) F' G7 C! Z+ Mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment& q5 m3 {" E4 i3 d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' h, h6 e0 z( `( ?7 u
but why jesus need to do this?; l* m2 W  E  g2 ~# O5 {4 M4 u
punsihment for what???
$ j5 j. G" l4 Q$ v. Jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- @* L& d6 F1 L5 m2 v, d& ?: _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* u% Z) l& U; G6 o; Z0 R+ H' e7 f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
( O' m8 @6 q- z+ R+ ~' Q! Zwhat will u do???
& B  T7 E( E. U* d" y4 l7 Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 t2 f# K6 c, H

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 a- b# h8 b% @8 `# C8 @honestly, if there is jesus8 E/ U: j! g& C3 z. g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( y- X& b& t6 s7 d
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  ~( X% R; ~; D8 |$ I3 J! W
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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, h( ]) I$ O+ @# R  _; e& \6 uyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
: [' ?6 w& B# R0 P0 |" m) qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 R! I8 ?3 j' i  j- l4 Kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 l9 M1 d/ v5 V  c4 {now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 _' G$ c$ K7 E, {9 M) t) z, q
bro singgeihot and rest365days- j+ n- }( u0 v9 Z
honestly, if there is jesus
, k% n& ?. W0 hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% Q/ Z' c! I- }& s0 _* Q
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
* u& b! T9 u) a4 \4 q' B5 e5 D自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: