jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 \0 ~$ ^6 x6 z% t. m+ h: u
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架) Q* E( n% d' G/ ?7 L, C
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. H" c/ A/ w/ a$ t+ k1 ^  tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- _; i8 ?5 E9 P" n0 A' Gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 j5 _4 s- [( c! f  Z, k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 u/ R* l# R) v( B$ t. V2 S3 u/ p1 V
but why jesus need to do this?
1 R  D9 \: \, P! l5 U) L/ ypunsihment for what???
2 I, \( F% b  K1 h1 E4 h. T9 vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* ?2 \% l6 I4 Z. g# utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 X2 f. _7 |' f: q# Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ v# ?2 M; D2 V  [what will u do???) M/ n# m: v/ V; V1 }2 O
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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3 s6 R$ ]7 M; Q7 Y6 Q# ~2 ]. l9 zyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 [5 p1 O# d% j& n! S
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 a- v" s! _  e# u  I
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) W1 h6 ~: N0 m& D5 @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% F! x3 J/ t8 ], `; H3 Z: O- T8 D9 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  w  G0 ]% M) \! d4 [many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - _8 I" t- B% e8 t4 K; Y7 T
but why jesus need to do this?
" C* O% c, @3 K; w8 d/ G' ^punsihment for what???
+ Q5 L) f2 {9 J4 ]+ K" z+ B3 Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 h" `# I  L( d* M$ y' Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# F* z1 D7 t# V. {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 g7 X: b1 Y; `! F/ d) T
what will u do???% @' H8 J6 O) ?" G2 u2 ?; D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   G6 _/ Y. a7 q4 g

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 r. w+ x2 {: A) R/ M3 ?5 b
honestly, if there is jesus% b( G; G& w  |" C1 J+ h# G" i9 b( @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 x9 t4 H) }' J4 V3 f
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; v# r: l. z; L& Y( ?+ N6 B7 ~just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: A) R# Y7 c2 O  u" s
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* L5 y) }8 M. \9 o; m6 w2 c
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  j3 t* R$ P  t" W% L4 d& nbro singgeihot and rest365days
- ]/ ], P' ?! M8 nhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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4 k5 R8 R. u' f: Aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# G% @. }. y. [自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( y9 ~" d( l: G. Z1 phaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: