jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* d7 [/ J, f- Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% r6 L; {( o1 Z3 m( Y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& C# a! ?3 S1 O4 A& ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 W+ C' L% ?9 q) Q+ u1 T! B1 g  J. c+ U
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 h$ ?( j" c  {' L( G9 }; Qbut why jesus need to do this?$ _+ e( z, o# q
punsihment for what???. g! T) \" m' L" k/ V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" P6 x$ m* Z! Z( X8 k, s* p/ _, r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 H/ x) s' A. G5 P
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 D( U# {/ l1 e4 ~) F; Y. P
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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2 J* x  r! J' O& W6 o' {咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 t: C, N2 j' ~
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 O2 e' ]8 n5 S0 h( S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ h, i+ r1 @! B/ b* C" {
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' @$ [* x- @+ L: R3 Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 ^. b! O- f- i: c: Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 ~# _5 Z: N" g$ [; V; S7 t/ o
but why jesus need to do this?
# {% h. c  R. mpunsihment for what???" S( S5 ~- o( R4 Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 B7 D# Q/ a; d- d- Y7 B2 o- |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 `# U" u( ?9 f) ]but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 A1 s$ W% t- t2 I+ @6 iwhat will u do???, V1 }& S4 }  a6 q% e% N
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   W; w! ^1 I% }) _  h9 p/ L

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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* I9 ?/ O! X+ E0 S: j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ _" o; M9 q2 |( K0 r0 Ihonestly, if there is jesus! m6 [/ Z) \( N6 h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:+ u  x5 J0 C4 J) o/ G  T

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( F' s4 y- S1 s, n" s6 {just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# M" E) t. Q1 aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 t# r2 t( j! \2 X- U* O4 I- \, x
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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: O& i- ]2 p0 H3 q* K& u" O/ ^- Cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 b  r% s' U& B
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( C! V. x" F# u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: