jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
' ~1 r$ v1 x8 b; v5 |仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, _- y) w" M- [/ p; o8 M7 \  N4 F* pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- s% E) u9 g0 T# W) c9 Pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% E/ \( b7 o5 L  Y) o: G
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ n" K6 ~( N' X' R% F  m. R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  Q- N% G) n3 ibut why jesus need to do this?
$ ~" G, ^- ]/ b+ l3 Gpunsihment for what???
) _& {0 G1 D( L) \. rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# `, d& j$ s5 y- c, i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 E8 K7 A/ P# u; P0 Q% }5 C( |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 Y5 D& f& w* p! b: H5 [; b
what will u do???* `) R# R4 ?8 x, }) g& z0 q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 r8 {% T3 X* b8 d2 W( c+ p  o

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* E8 G. Q8 \+ n1 E8 K5 K咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" v6 t: f$ T* t6 N! e$ s: ~+ q
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# \% i- }2 ~' v8 I4 ]

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! w5 u. Z4 J* X  }: m# s* K% B( z2 Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 M6 _5 G% o8 I- s# E* Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ W! W% ]- a% h2 K( z! f% j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 d; r! o: @) x% Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % n! L& ^1 I' Z2 L0 |7 O. k
but why jesus need to do this?% g* O9 d7 \! h9 J
punsihment for what???
! R/ o# G" i0 b; \' f) Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' r! T6 W% E$ \  b8 V+ i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 x2 d1 G5 W. m( n* M& n3 @" jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + |; {+ G3 C' A0 [5 R; W' |/ B
what will u do???0 `& t+ p  R/ x- [+ O- v3 x
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 a7 _8 n) h3 d

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6 t  l$ ~; k" W+ I: fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' Z) B+ f6 D1 E4 ?# h' W+ j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days6 A% }; q) N  E
honestly, if there is jesus& p) E* Q, l6 K3 X+ n' x) k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 C  r- h* V, E7 I) xwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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3 s% m7 Z4 e9 @$ p好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% |9 b2 a3 X7 O( B6 K- ?- M3 Iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( B! H! }0 M0 R7 @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 z  N* A+ n, n6 S/ v! q( s. rso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 |! g7 {0 _+ X- v# E: u  p: P: Gnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
- ?8 j. O. y( z# M6 M3 i  H5 Ybro singgeihot and rest365days
3 w  e7 h* Q7 H3 F' Shonestly, if there is jesus% ]# ^. X5 {- ?6 f- z: N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 U, A0 v4 G) p1 S. J" |; ^
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 M- q  A  l$ j; s. _% Uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; S0 P3 ]/ r) k- N; }$ D/ s; C% a
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 {# s0 K5 B1 ]% H* p, h7 I+ D自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: