jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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4 H+ {% l8 ~( R7 W! i# pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( @: H8 T) ?6 f3 r$ dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 G& M7 y- x% v3 K6 u; O( Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
1 c( M( h& `. `( `6 M4 l( l! p3 W3 u4 Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ k2 U0 E% w8 A0 mbut why jesus need to do this?
$ C7 W' a! X1 [' Vpunsihment for what???9 e6 C/ ?, u9 h' k' ]3 |
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; K8 s3 p# a' O* ]* c4 s
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 P# X7 E; ~5 }% p: Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 P# V8 r3 I% U9 V5 v* U, q
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 g( L3 h5 N6 V  C( c3 ]. R% M
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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0 b1 L- Y# L7 f) M$ F$ |2 q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排$ M/ m5 ~8 c4 D2 W

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! K3 @4 r! g" ]' r2 W: O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ f2 j0 r" h8 ?0 a' ~8 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( z( O/ H% Q+ n) v$ b8 I
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 j* c$ i0 a- F1 t9 u- o" Y' `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   J2 G7 Z7 u+ A, ?7 ^6 `
but why jesus need to do this?' ~  M+ t% M4 ?5 ~% `5 P; B
punsihment for what???
4 `& W7 {9 |( xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: L" [) j" m2 D: d, t2 }0 q. c. o, {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" {$ q! i- Y. ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, a: y- ~0 d# Z0 i5 `what will u do???
  }2 E5 |( D6 c) v3 T! U7 [% ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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# `$ H/ y% i8 wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( F0 W) b# Q% E% l" ]

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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7 \1 d+ R6 X+ Y. y6 [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( S7 r% m% M, m

8 S* Z7 j# i$ f/ z- p議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days& q, I1 [* O6 |2 ~. {
honestly, if there is jesus, Y# b: U+ C, y* b# U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ D/ \6 b2 F! P0 W: r: ]0 S9 L, ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- t5 q* m2 [# R2 R3 O/ ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 ]$ t5 Z  a9 J+ C
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ u3 `/ W+ L, I0 Q5 W7 Q2 W0 Nbro singgeihot and rest365days" V5 s9 G/ n: [% X2 [
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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% @% K# X4 W7 q/ Z, Lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 s6 p6 C; m4 e# c) Q* votherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) z- r# g% K- M
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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