jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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9 h, G$ c$ ]! P8 F9 B  Z6 V" Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ @: G, J1 X$ s* C6 s$ vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 t* V+ L* ?( `: T6 d- E  f4 k9 J
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* ?1 N" ?' F& k- x7 d. M3 |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   j/ Z# H6 e7 l/ r2 t- d: S7 c
but why jesus need to do this?! o& H9 |' g4 T! W
punsihment for what???
9 @" w; N" h3 Q  @) z; L8 rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. f3 C9 ~/ ]$ \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( w) l, l( p% {1 \( J( |' o* obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:, R% ^% W8 j. ]9 r; r0 }" K# s

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 l1 P6 M# v; |3 B: _8 ]+ q: M: V0 K
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 c" k3 z" F: D! A0 V1 U) w
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ `4 S5 J* q- Y* `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ u8 |4 |( j9 I. s: r( t
why this happen? just simple........punishment  p1 H; R) T7 O6 g4 N2 f4 s9 o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 [9 D; A8 r5 n( h2 j+ \
but why jesus need to do this?
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5 O* U: |% ~7 l. c& f* Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- i$ B& Z( ^" o- w2 W$ X5 s
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% i% h4 k& {8 e4 o6 jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 ^3 `  t- U+ y; @' gwhat will u do???
9 C) U. A- y  H+ c7 G# @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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7 X9 G8 j7 a' [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 V' D, v8 ~1 E3 ~- G5 \議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 r4 Y$ _- B7 t' o8 H
honestly, if there is jesus
" j; m! ?7 g/ }9 u0 Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) N8 {; f; i" x* e& Q" E
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* i2 h' Q5 q  G5 C+ D( O
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ Z" p' B% y. W) ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it, d; k$ v1 H6 J/ @6 }- o+ A& K
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 D; L8 k/ m% F" hnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) }/ n. K, `" a& J$ ~& I  I2 Dbro singgeihot and rest365days9 j/ R0 W" G5 t
honestly, if there is jesus  W* B" W7 V0 U& l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: ~; z- q5 I% H  S
we can't blow him :cool:

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; R/ i$ E7 T0 B) Punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( K7 N+ K$ c' F- N/ }
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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5 p* \8 H. I# c' l  Qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: