jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 c4 _, F' [4 m7 z8 Y! v+ F; c仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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  u- p: F- l. y1 b/ obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, }6 a" o7 R1 d& C# |5 Gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 Y" V; x; [; g- Z9 |1 d1 E8 d4 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
  ?; f+ ~! H1 t$ {5 Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 e6 q, b( [& n9 @
but why jesus need to do this?3 F7 i, D! u7 u0 K$ W
punsihment for what???
# \% |7 t5 P& ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 u5 u" \( o2 L  `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 t' q) a+ W2 g% X% W0 B5 m% S' z7 Ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 j% @+ x* Z3 W* B4 Y- {( owhat will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: }5 |& L: E; b9 @  Q, r
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  `1 i6 _8 k* C0 f9 \7 |咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: C( l1 m% O. O$ `- B: T6 ?+ h
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ \1 i) h- W2 S, ~8 A7 m: \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& i+ k1 e1 N# ?9 t0 m: \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: L5 ]* z" N; V' M6 ?" y
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 i4 _  V# E9 C1 D' U- o1 a/ M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 p4 m& G# X* I- tbut why jesus need to do this?
3 P: G* X$ ?  l+ wpunsihment for what???; z5 T- p6 q: Y" }- u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ |6 h+ L$ j6 \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# ~0 r, @& y, \8 e+ h6 ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 M: ]* ]* w. z7 P: i
what will u do???% o. @( B  \  |" R- ^* v; j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - B, x' Q! F) e+ h" F

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" G9 G  D0 R+ G- V4 O! ]2 osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. z6 A& `7 i) ?8 E, ]! a
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 G$ Q" n; k& ^/ e7 a! w好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 B, `9 u$ T/ `; e# M" w) ]6 y, W
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. J) W1 _6 e: }3 l1 h2 Y
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 R, Z& e$ V% q- f! g1 B
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 O5 q2 M7 d7 B7 M3 i6 a
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: j" Z7 X: t9 N; r$ e' v: h
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( G0 B1 \& j/ K9 A3 Z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, \2 X0 l( |: U' Dbro singgeihot and rest365days% }- x! ?, i( f
honestly, if there is jesus( J- x) f$ X5 T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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8 o1 A" i; j4 V! Q$ tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 t. q: f+ y' j, y; gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:$ c- d, L* a4 O' ~: R7 e8 h
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: f& U" A8 d3 V, l7 O" ?0 t+ G" Dhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: