jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:5 [6 F3 _4 e8 r8 n5 C! ^5 F6 G" S
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% W, X  e+ i% o+ ^$ t
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ l, j! }  Z5 l+ d% v/ Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 c5 j( c1 `/ ]8 f6 x9 z
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% ?/ |. `9 T! ~6 lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : c, F4 D" `1 A6 W. O3 L
but why jesus need to do this?
- a) V; t# j& q0 B( n5 b- ^punsihment for what???; A) G' X, Z! D' G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 ^1 H& N5 ?$ c' c( S: ]8 u8 Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 g* f9 u& c, y. {/ v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - r4 \; N' [3 E& {. _
what will u do???
1 L) i, t# n9 \7 ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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1 x( P# w* f/ q( pyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 Q2 p% b+ U& x1 C" Y6 S
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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3 Z+ ?  U, N6 L4 I咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) R8 |4 _  L/ S) _1 K- b# ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 ^& H" C' m" c& I! o3 |5 e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ z0 u* r) J: z/ c
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 r. @# s5 U8 h( I( [: a) O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : s" r7 b. l3 ?' I2 U# i  N
but why jesus need to do this?6 N6 l: f# k1 a% i/ Y7 Q  H
punsihment for what???
! V7 }( i$ A0 |- V! u5 _% [; `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) H! N1 z& l0 G& I  E1 j( rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& d2 {' x6 F$ v! G  q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + ^" ?7 Y( ]! [2 Z! e
what will u do???$ e9 k) g7 ]! t* H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! I4 ^+ ~4 p' I( y5 M

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& G4 i: Z* {5 s# v

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. b, X' \0 Q+ K8 m$ b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( v6 y& L3 A4 Z6 Q

2 i( Q, o' M0 O6 Y  S議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: h# b) l' p$ o2 c7 |; y( D& F+ k
honestly, if there is jesus
' ]1 o% k/ ?( |$ r7 M6 \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 n% ]0 p  ~+ c4 ^" r/ C+ y/ |( y7 q( I+ awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 n8 `+ l" S7 d. @. c9 \- x5 ~

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5 C3 ]5 I* z; M+ yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 D( ?* \2 s" D
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it, ]# P: d$ W* d0 I+ m
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- s3 k5 ?/ w* q3 W8 rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
- Z5 y8 J% o, C9 zbro singgeihot and rest365days& d  n2 }- W2 U' @( O# J9 N$ b2 e+ l2 f
honestly, if there is jesus6 l* H0 A0 Z3 C- Z& N' x7 K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 \+ r' }6 U7 j! B: g! l  ], O5 f
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. m3 _$ Q1 y/ f7 W
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- C7 }4 v+ e1 W6 a) n+ jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: