jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  I# b7 G7 |& x* ^! }& P% ?仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 ?2 \2 U0 r2 ]* f( d( `- r4 E
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. l+ Y$ a2 y4 n0 Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- s) w! M/ j2 n" h% Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ F; i. R& z% S7 {why this happen? just simple........punishment
: S( z# b! z+ O2 I7 b5 o. \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* s0 i, ^9 ^' Vbut why jesus need to do this?2 R: a# G( w; o1 }. L% b$ z
punsihment for what???& W0 L1 ]4 y% F) C
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" Z( i/ I( S1 y$ {" [7 [) Z' Utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 w0 g$ h4 A5 ?5 d5 X% f' Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& f5 Z3 l$ s7 n" Dwhat will u do???: V9 |# Y6 G1 W% R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 f" e! O9 i( n0 S! G& {+ _/ {. U
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+ f7 L1 g3 Y* h% j, n6 Y( ]yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( W4 G3 S. {4 l, S

& E& h) |! S6 z9 `咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. [( H, \% t3 ]/ H1 Ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 v$ g; ~8 m$ `/ M* G. C/ a/ Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 D) C5 D0 u  z* @% J  m( j2 r
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ |. N6 d+ X$ ^' y4 O6 M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " i3 I  \7 M6 d" B" k0 L" O5 C
but why jesus need to do this?7 s, C1 W, D* Y" k. i
punsihment for what???
% U4 G/ B" O; ~+ E0 q: ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& R* H$ l# m) J; l: F2 ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% k; r9 O. |" J# |- Y; p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 P4 @/ ]! F- e7 R, u3 o3 L# {what will u do???; Q5 k2 L6 x8 q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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) J  Z, K# b9 j1 ubro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 M1 h5 K; P" D" R) _7 k9 ?$ u

% ~. B7 m% }! \  }3 N6 Q* m議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) G; u- v' q) X) C6 u
honestly, if there is jesus" x4 V  V. K9 \8 l% E
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, K( ?9 |- I, X0 _2 P9 |
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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3 K2 i) z; i. r+ f好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' C) ~% c7 I# {% w0 \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 O$ r" F! E4 f
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 W# R  u" y# I, V: Q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 ~: J- j! M9 ?8 N$ {! ^* ebro singgeihot and rest365days
* T9 x# t( [" zhonestly, if there is jesus
( j* O+ {+ i( Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 y8 ~2 c8 |  {4 q, z, J
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) P/ W$ h6 Q  `# x* K* q
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 y& S$ r; r* \5 m4 H
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" Z: D6 ^& r" n. lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: