jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) v( d" K3 ?  q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; ~% s8 f: X8 z/ E) M* ?why this happen? just simple........punishment* L& i/ N; T2 p6 H( g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ K4 ~, |! ~, \but why jesus need to do this?& t: T, q0 E! P  m" }# L
punsihment for what???
: @( \. A0 U3 t% {" {- M6 Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 x7 H2 q- {9 K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! R6 Y. z1 R1 j" G* P5 rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; k( _+ ]1 c! b+ H& A
what will u do???7 g: G6 s1 z) j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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9 n' P. O1 i9 s8 m( byes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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3 P, b, V( G0 h& n4 u* s* Q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! N) L2 y- d3 K0 h7 h* K' r3 r% _
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ _. P$ {* U7 W5 A. g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 e" ?* R$ E. ^) |8 V$ z3 J
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 [6 _. i. {% g# f9 L/ j2 D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 Y# s9 J0 v; V& ]) ]
but why jesus need to do this?
9 T7 J: v# m8 z# Ipunsihment for what???
! [$ T- K9 \# B! Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' d" ^7 c0 \/ r) L1 ]' Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 R. r* c# [  o4 `1 W$ Y0 Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 u0 O# n6 z4 f7 ]5 ?$ d4 Swhat will u do???
1 D3 L4 I5 G- Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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" e: k; m6 `) R, r2 ]. r好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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; W, ^" Q( r. N6 J+ o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 r- n  u4 l8 r) G8 a; }  G( f
honestly, if there is jesus
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8 `" L" a5 o4 K8 T" K- |7 uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life$ N! ^6 ?( g( N' @; ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 z  M) H3 N$ p- F2 a$ ^so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
' `& O# Q1 [# F6 gnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: ~7 U; b5 {) c/ J2 u, Sbro singgeihot and rest365days' Q& i3 S  h$ O8 t/ \8 r
honestly, if there is jesus
2 s! a& a3 Z4 j! o  jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( j9 `/ f" W: w0 H8 a- r0 I& Vwe can't blow him :cool:

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- c1 f% c3 [/ Ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: Q( y0 t5 y) v( a% {% J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: G0 Y! x$ e7 }* J+ |9 B+ b7 Z* p: Y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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" p  \) g! D% w' Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: