jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
1 X, Y: w6 p5 j$ v1 V$ O仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架' A' A. E1 P( [+ D# c
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 i+ q4 J) D# _1 R2 d% s" e. x. U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. }, _1 @! _6 @5 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment# F: ~/ |9 B. B4 F" k. e9 B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# v; r, L' l* U4 gbut why jesus need to do this?1 g; y6 k: p- G* Z+ {. q
punsihment for what???: O" K# ^: Z2 y& S  d$ q: v% |0 W8 u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 z! c4 `# }' P( W8 x, {' y& f; P
what will u do???/ m. |3 d8 u+ F8 t7 s5 F; _+ c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: @1 b8 T. i+ Y! h
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 ~  f: g$ _: R$ [
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 [# k  s3 p- O" O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  L# L- C, f3 V7 m( j$ L, d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! y0 L# o; D5 z& awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ v" f. V5 b# ]) I+ p$ v4 Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 R  m9 j/ o, E1 P% Lbut why jesus need to do this?* c2 N+ l. E; M' H3 _1 N
punsihment for what???* Y% J- T$ J6 u* V
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 u0 }5 q9 C8 v" y; P, Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) Y* ?8 q7 ^  w. N$ l+ n' f% cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 q  m! l; w1 R
what will u do???. e3 k  _: b6 N. l3 ~$ Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # i* \  Z* a! J5 E# N

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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$ |# c" p: z- A- Dbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 , \2 C5 y# P8 q6 ^" }3 x) ^; t
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 G) ]. j( M3 @, T  `  X! E8 Khonestly, if there is jesus0 c" \+ n. g- z1 r9 F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 K5 Q: o- D) qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( e; c+ [9 N1 c" N- fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 W; ~3 _+ M( g8 N' \+ Q8 V
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......) e! {+ @: A5 h( ^3 r; z, L+ W
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* d, [, `* o& Y4 N3 d! Xbro singgeihot and rest365days2 P' U6 R+ x5 v! d2 V6 V6 F# l- Q
honestly, if there is jesus" J$ @; ?% D  m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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+ L3 w# q+ T7 E: ~: wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ E7 C8 N' J5 b" y  gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 o6 \; j# C- f; x+ V自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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/ J" w5 g$ W- |( `  s6 O. ?haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: