jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# x# t/ T' M% n0 w7 p; _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. _; ~! G% V# }' }, Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 G/ Q' I7 ]* x$ R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 v3 O/ k' B8 r+ hbut why jesus need to do this?% v- p& H" E4 i& v1 J
punsihment for what???
0 F1 v$ E" U- D: O2 Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% G4 E, W" u4 d) ]- `( e  |$ b, E
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" l9 w$ ]3 a7 z$ x& ^% v5 qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - l3 j/ l9 ^+ h+ d
what will u do???6 ]  o+ H" m& L$ x
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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4 U3 h7 _7 k9 f0 U' V- T咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, f1 }7 t; C/ k+ s
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 U. I/ h0 G7 ~) U5 T3 ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- Q8 T; g! A' K# u2 G& }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: V& @4 Y. s2 V- O# E
why this happen? just simple........punishment' k9 o. s! C8 `8 V* _' a
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : z2 g7 K& [, N; _0 F. T3 E/ ]
but why jesus need to do this?' V7 h6 Z% t7 A  J+ W6 l8 L5 U" @
punsihment for what???
6 k# @0 S2 C; Q7 ]for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" d! s3 W4 n+ k1 P- f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: G$ M/ K- o# Q( i8 lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 M- {/ q' m; o
what will u do???, b" U4 G' R  l2 z+ ^8 w9 P
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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! M& S2 ?) d; A6 A+ Wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% t, v- g# Q/ Y/ S) P% l

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7 a# h: `9 k# |8 T! M% }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 M) _7 k& k/ o& q0 ?
honestly, if there is jesus
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& z9 W' P; K& J3 H: uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ M8 R8 P3 k, t# |2 W

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0 Z1 e& z8 ?: I& lyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) m' ]  F6 Y9 G) G5 _$ pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. f& W  p+ c+ K1 _
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" a/ O' F2 u7 `* B/ i
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 e5 G- T4 q* a4 ^( h
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ Y* B3 T9 @1 @3 K, c
we can't blow him :cool:

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7 |  j8 ~1 e* X' f0 }understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
7 I4 M: N, i# A/ t% u1 k7 ]otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% a( `. }# d  `8 g$ }
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# j& U+ ], z  ]haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: