jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ h1 u* U* k9 K+ H' ~
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架$ n0 r9 U" c) J2 x; I8 K9 Q
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8 M6 Z8 v/ a, x. X, mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 A' g: j5 C: |, s" H% o9 M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 x6 Z' \6 b  J1 e3 e: z+ r9 {why this happen? just simple........punishment
" {- G/ L% N( d: y4 e! Pmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , m: {$ B* m  f7 J
but why jesus need to do this?' i2 u0 m. Y  f$ Z
punsihment for what???7 N, N5 Z- S% Z7 V8 S' {3 V0 ]! w, N/ \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 a9 t+ H% |, K$ q. ?& F& S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" W! W' l/ [; Z+ X/ J" n. S; j4 Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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. {9 j! ~5 l, j  A. O4 Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 v( @$ C( F. [  L
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6 K& ^" A, X5 l+ s, r' Myes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) v1 N, I0 r& o4 [但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 D$ U* ?8 H( V4 P% F; l
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ j8 R! |, r6 h: F- h1 @9 a4 C; ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 l" b4 R! H% U# _- a3 z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ `# |" L( c3 m0 p9 b) Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment1 s3 c9 w; s5 ^- g: s' |, w$ s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% @1 j0 m( o8 e( C$ z5 i' I& z! Obut why jesus need to do this?
2 V6 |4 _$ f0 ?8 `punsihment for what???% L- n+ F: j4 `9 w  y2 d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus) u9 _4 E& _9 [4 b& D' V2 T9 M+ W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 @$ T5 X1 t! X4 H1 S0 `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 c* ?6 ^2 D& c/ Qwhat will u do???
+ k5 u" w" x6 y. }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # E* R( J0 q) a$ B. t

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 R  ?4 T3 h+ Ebro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! W7 ^; T5 y# ^( J" y/ l$ t
honestly, if there is jesus
. O6 t$ g7 n8 C, C& |6 I% ^7 T' Lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 j- E$ {& A4 d* R- \( b' w! Z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 ^1 U5 o& V  c/ ]3 x# p1 ^
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- T% g+ D( K" g9 u8 fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
& K3 j1 h0 O: Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 N: s2 U/ B7 `
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 e: S( i: y3 [; Q9 P" x" D0 R( }) [& |
bro singgeihot and rest365days
  [& i0 D: P6 ~( o' Qhonestly, if there is jesus" z) A+ B& {$ x9 h( ]0 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" |/ M( ^' M* [' s" K$ I
we can't blow him :cool:

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0 T# w' b7 v& q% z$ \# f6 a0 Gunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics4 }& ^+ g1 u8 z) k$ K6 X! p
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 _* L$ e& `$ s6 C' i2 \4 D自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: