jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 Q6 v" ^8 W/ R  M0 C: z仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 r# f7 p; |! l' _2 [; w  x
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3 Q6 X2 C9 x' d+ T! `8 n5 pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 L' s8 L( Y" n: `5 T# y4 Ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 {/ R0 u, ]3 M6 t5 l
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; @0 g( ]& Z' i( m9 a& F- Q+ ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 h, L  ]- s, P. N0 r. ubut why jesus need to do this?( q- M, Q  n# S7 G# p
punsihment for what???
/ p) x( H* s& T* l4 `- t( R) Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. k* @! ?+ A! S: Z5 R/ Etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: Q" s6 j' k2 N; ~2 C6 F+ `but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  r% U# Z" \8 Ewhat will u do???( k- V! ~, ]( R' |
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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# Y- D) |& ~. f7 A% z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" N: h# b7 F1 t* xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ Y% y6 B% q5 o6 N( hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 \2 Y9 k7 i$ K% L  z; \, t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# M! z, ?- z9 L! G6 Z  J0 w! l* Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & v1 U- D: J2 j& A0 W# I$ Q) U  x1 \: Z
but why jesus need to do this?4 L8 y1 K: l" }
punsihment for what???8 w0 v2 o: v! E$ V. G( |
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ L; B1 m1 S$ v: o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' S, S  @( j/ @, w+ ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' v4 O. y% T% w* r! uwhat will u do???5 w0 Q% u% l" l2 T; q" C4 K2 m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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6 f4 u8 z: Q$ ~6 |* M( G- Wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! @8 X( ~* ?+ _6 o5 g9 w1 P
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; M. v2 z/ [  V) Y9 h9 e! ?% b( abro, did u know that there is a...

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, j' x4 J0 |: R0 q' P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 D# x' p$ L( I4 C  Q/ n& n
honestly, if there is jesus
- R- w  `: x4 Z) Q% mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) s& g6 F, ?( f" V* e# Uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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+ d- Y0 F" ]( l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" d% N9 K" W+ K. D0 h6 eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. l7 ]0 g( O+ h( m3 m9 @) `
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 j" z+ {; b6 D  @, h' x4 d5 N# fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
0 n$ B# J% w. P, j% [# y/ Gnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 o7 y" }+ [. ~bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 n* I: J5 J5 W! e  n, O/ l- d. X  Y' uhonestly, if there is jesus
' R. f  a! ~+ x. hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) E1 W1 D) V( Z; w& Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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* l0 y: s# R. L. o% N# k/ junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% K) U. o, L7 u& ^8 ]
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ Y6 L3 t" t5 e; k7 G: `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: