jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# b# o: ~6 F: h6 }% @仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 ~1 u, H2 a" F! w* C% r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 z& X; U$ i+ b+ e! `' fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# z# L0 r" `+ Y- s% \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   Z$ w6 P5 v' f; M8 x
but why jesus need to do this?
- \" e/ y" p( Z. Upunsihment for what???
# z' Y+ t0 v. E" G$ k) S* kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( U' P6 O) _  W8 N2 w+ n6 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, E/ t) J6 v5 I. O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / ]3 f. {1 H  j6 Q
what will u do???1 ~' L2 k* f5 G- R. c! P5 ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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* p; N0 t" W0 P' E但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 v) A1 f; h+ r7 ]; a
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ X% R# L% `6 B. r4 |
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 n% c& r' l0 ~0 @0 Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 t4 J5 J% r6 s: e/ @6 [; iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. J, ^1 j3 r: W- n# e$ J7 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + l$ ?7 i$ C4 [% }  W9 S& E
but why jesus need to do this?
. `9 G) I) U" |5 }1 t$ rpunsihment for what???
; Y) I& ^* V% j( j$ ?; Q" Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" g" c/ ~/ [7 d( I8 ~# y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ \' P$ R* t1 s: F% [( x, kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, f  D6 I+ |% ]what will u do???
) B: [$ `4 P) zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ L" w" E7 U  A+ d) n  W8 A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# h+ L, F# T, a9 d) w6 x$ o! {) m/ n. x$ W好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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1 W2 ]9 m- Q5 ^議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 C; f( ?8 U4 ^# F
honestly, if there is jesus& e0 p- T7 G7 Q3 C( K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 m6 n# E7 t! P* {+ q. B$ N) ~
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 [1 D) o+ |: z8 z

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9 ?  ~; c) `2 o: \( w好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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/ I/ B5 z. L4 r5 kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& f) J7 s- h0 a7 s3 i
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ B( `. v7 b' W) b
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 Y8 m/ H% s9 R% J; ?now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 L% o9 d+ t2 p; p/ G6 M+ V+ A
bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 N8 n0 p; C" I' @! Fhonestly, if there is jesus5 x2 |& u& H+ }5 i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- k# N2 i2 E, s+ G- d
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; h! J) v- u& i* Z; T0 q; Y, R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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8 x0 C6 Z: B( i/ B4 j7 lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: