jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ C3 q, i2 b8 ~+ A) n  a7 K  \& j5 j
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 G/ m: @8 J, P- g' fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 [+ N% W) g* Y9 S( X( m* _
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 X( L4 V# e$ {6 W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ I1 `3 t! q1 c. l4 Ibut why jesus need to do this?6 u) W" J: ~6 }6 ?% G7 a  C2 A2 b6 L
punsihment for what???8 ^6 X0 G  P8 `  ^  L0 U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( Y8 D5 I4 ^. r+ |9 [: b- @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ E, {* R( V/ `8 k0 @- V0 M
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & `0 S5 D& ~$ Z. {! J& v' x
what will u do???: q" ^2 C( g4 m0 ?! K' E+ T
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  O# J# d6 f/ T( G: r
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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: ^* }' u! X( p. A# p咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% u" N+ j; }+ Y' v, b+ V" B( W7 u
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' @9 K7 y4 T9 _2 o# [% Ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 L# z: O" C4 O+ ]- {4 T) vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment& F0 T5 @! U) D' r& a( N7 l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! V. N  f. m$ }* m& v8 rbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' R$ P+ t. n6 O/ x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 v2 C) G, S: q- W6 b/ o3 G1 G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & U5 f0 A$ _5 W# f/ _  g
what will u do???  a4 @; L' ]6 G5 A& N) }1 C6 V3 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 I  g0 L# y7 L- C- \2 B7 Q

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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% k/ i5 i& Y/ N. p& Z0 i議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# B) m4 ~" E( qhonestly, if there is jesus
0 K% u' G. f7 H4 J2 h# \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! u( `/ p3 U. x. Z; k6 f( b5 E
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 {  l8 l  D  i, m  h) [; _, x) R: `
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 |& ~' `7 _5 L
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......1 R  e  K8 R1 u
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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/ ~" l0 q  X4 i$ }& {4 xwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 q/ B) }7 k: ~1 O8 G9 C& Rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 I# n0 U( y' t% a+ Q
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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