jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
: }' @$ b/ ]+ Q, y0 h- ]5 K4 @仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  Y2 d1 w6 s/ c$ L! b. b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 L& N' ^+ B: Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment. a/ V. G" ?5 p" h" ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 R. w. G. _+ K7 B
but why jesus need to do this?
! W1 v3 u; ]1 R7 Hpunsihment for what???
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8 f) f" Y) C/ L2 G6 Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! J& q- B" u$ w8 q( p. rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * {; m% A3 W$ O+ H
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 g% q1 ?5 q% J5 b) y

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. q2 |/ R8 F( Z
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% q" I3 d& K) S) s; G

/ Q/ D9 q# r8 ?8 T" O$ f3 n  ]2 G* }4 ~咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* H- Z. M6 S$ x- h7 U
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. ~2 c) Z; n- Q6 S" hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, @* G+ `4 x+ ^9 U& C) f
why this happen? just simple........punishment
6 N# T" n9 w. \2 r6 V- M& y! dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 W. t( k. N1 cbut why jesus need to do this?
" ^5 ?/ h, ~2 hpunsihment for what???
/ w3 ^$ T3 c: T# m. ^0 vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 D0 X1 ~) L2 ]9 T
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. W2 F8 g2 N$ b+ J0 o* x# _0 k" \
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' Q0 U9 i2 S% V- t& T! M6 b, T+ [+ Bwhat will u do???# U6 C& G- b. O+ F) c, f/ l9 l7 N
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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' ~5 R* {! \' @) J2 j; c. P( hsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * H6 j' x: Y; ^/ X

1 _' J( J, r8 f! G+ i8 Y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 W& ?0 f% K, Q3 @& P$ a; Phonestly, if there is jesus: J& k' n2 |: o- z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- c- y+ T4 P& X; I! b4 o- H
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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7 d+ G8 m+ l! r+ u# J3 l' w" Fyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ O0 q: Y9 P9 g% Q0 q
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- T0 E" G9 J( ?0 K; {3 M3 e
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......) f8 E2 t( d# H) T! t! H
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus! U- [" @* K# M( U7 x: [, j1 Q( O) A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' V" Y  x* }% W* }3 i9 m, U: z, y' M
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: K1 }8 H* G" A5 `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: