jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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" c1 u# ^" J2 ~1 v0 A- Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 w8 v! \1 ~  b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 ]# ?1 S% [6 R# b
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( X1 `0 z- `7 Q% R  t& Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 m% D# I4 P. Pbut why jesus need to do this?2 |6 D9 W0 X& K. c  U1 ~( T
punsihment for what???: C# y# o6 L4 w* M/ j) J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 E# f7 `, N: L, D2 R
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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* D2 Y! x& k+ L  T4 ?4 |just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' I+ F( o- F4 T

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排  [7 @! ]+ [! X" ]# b# |4 n( E$ u0 u
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 P. b& Y5 q* L5 s4 J0 U  T0 lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 f3 m: k) x5 H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 ]7 s1 h% k5 M; s8 L, fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ u8 A; H  g6 amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 a" E. w" {! S5 G/ J# {6 J
but why jesus need to do this?
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" y! W  v! \, Ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 G! }6 U" N& l8 E! T5 d$ z1 E
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 H% I$ K+ N" D' h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & ?3 J2 Z4 w5 X
what will u do???  l$ x/ J1 @0 z: q* J; m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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# W) F3 D; ]3 T9 I# q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + V) `% K! `* ^- c/ O
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
; i, e6 t5 w0 j" Phonestly, if there is jesus
5 U/ p( g4 M2 o, s( i3 l, [, Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( H7 t4 K  b7 h% d) Pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, o5 w( F. [) `+ e% L' O+ x. g) P

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ Y' e% D4 h: ?# H/ X8 T" F4 s# Yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 u; ~* E3 N  C/ Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: V3 ]1 x# a7 x8 {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
: b0 z) c; J8 p; q2 m6 ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. A& C  `  ~. }$ ]& n% x
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ b5 ~9 H5 w. v# o3 D
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ m- R4 W6 o5 \* W& U! eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: