jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 R2 e* p# _$ Z( i: |' p- l/ Q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架9 M- f% o$ k( d7 A# m
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& |) l- y! a# }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 t0 ?% `5 j' o5 l7 a
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 S* @! e: h% \& i9 f' `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + B# {9 n) H$ }& M
but why jesus need to do this?
: j1 V8 T0 H1 X/ Jpunsihment for what???. \+ h/ _# [4 Q0 T5 `. \/ ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 b8 D# \- _$ V! z5 q. k4 c3 C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 x  g/ y% _% G. j" V; y; gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; M7 e/ Z1 u" ?3 c+ x6 [! T$ y1 n
what will u do???
# X& ~/ e2 j& o, ]7 Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 b/ _' L5 K: y/ s& s/ G
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% L9 r# M, c# L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 K, p$ L0 c- J8 G+ [& rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 F9 {* o$ Y+ e. r. P- O3 U6 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 _4 A' g/ W# \6 c7 `/ N3 l9 u  K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' c7 @( |" _+ T9 Y% H1 i$ [
but why jesus need to do this?
. s8 U: F  a& ]punsihment for what???
4 e# j2 p6 ?3 a6 `4 c! S, mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ S7 ]9 I4 u2 l( f1 \9 Z: C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ b( r9 b; y2 `  f! {! sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 n+ q! ]0 ]! G& _( P5 hwhat will u do???5 [  d' r2 l$ @* E& `3 c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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3 ?2 B% }/ ?7 C' v% mbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# t2 ^2 C4 Z0 k5 u2 |議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( f# w- A8 l1 x' r7 T; _
honestly, if there is jesus: l- v- H! E' g/ z. k0 e8 m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 |; [' b! p* W' C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 G; w3 B9 O* H# p9 b
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4 n5 D  g, L# A* ^% N0 D) h& [yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& g& p& u/ I. {/ V1 s! i* ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! w( C, k* ^" k( r# k2 h1 `
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& C4 C2 }2 Z3 h5 I4 nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  g& Q' ^, Q: U7 Q# [. R" z. p* d
bro singgeihot and rest365days. B; s: S, p0 c( y3 d" V0 [$ c9 `
honestly, if there is jesus+ }7 e/ F; i2 h- z) l; q! e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* v6 Z, W& s+ @
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics# h" J  e* p% Z0 f- S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) U' V* L- }- \* O1 E
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; A# y0 @2 ]3 J0 u8 G! V  rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: