jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:: u7 u  K( U; _
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* ~0 ]3 U+ z) p; [) X4 L
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1 a4 U+ X) Q/ _: Z& lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# W% F7 p* P) i8 k# M9 N5 J2 P6 D6 `1 E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 {5 L; e6 R% p$ d
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 S1 ^3 L3 n0 imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * f2 @! w7 U/ a- _% X/ S
but why jesus need to do this?# `) K! ^, C6 j5 ~3 X9 d6 F
punsihment for what???2 B" ~) L. |/ g4 k# ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! w" x  P; {" ]! Z. Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 i% e0 Y0 ?' i+ ]! G! Q( Y/ @but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' X" W1 v) E& e( R& W) n" a
what will u do???  p% A7 i5 I2 Y- z: Y( U  {1 _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ Q' d+ Q' Q: a9 z! e/ X- ~4 A# o

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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  o! f: T( W$ e/ n咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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; B+ O3 d# U- ]/ W  ?$ n咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 d! N- d9 m* W* ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" k  i2 {3 l) Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" q5 H7 u( p2 B+ h; ~" G( z  C% Z  V4 z
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 J/ r' c' D4 ?9 ?) e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + f6 v% i! b( U6 u
but why jesus need to do this?0 |/ N- E4 l( X* H% S
punsihment for what???% V0 d9 K& N: o1 x# z  A( C: s( A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* H' L4 ?" y$ @& D
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ ]! ~$ a4 c6 o: L1 f, wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( S! S0 T1 T; V2 c4 N  N$ J  g
what will u do???
8 F, @2 c  w% E/ [/ t9 p9 Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , a; L$ w) X: F

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  @* ]9 M, f' y- M
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, |' Z, g' O+ O3 U2 dbro, did u know that there is a...

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8 ]- p3 H8 x$ x好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & @# P: X, E/ Z' {2 G) P

8 q' a. h3 i; L) Y" ~議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days* z8 l! e, h  P% C& f& Q: L
honestly, if there is jesus
7 x) [( x; I: Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* o+ x- `" _( R' Q! i0 g+ {
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% m; ?- O$ j' I5 |! V

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2 s$ _: F' K( ?  A; Vyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ W9 F/ R/ g* Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. h1 g1 ]$ S0 c1 H9 \% Y. y% gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 b1 _8 \6 h" ~) ~- znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ m4 G8 Y5 f' P8 L% vbro singgeihot and rest365days
" o2 H% r& ?. h& k' E- @honestly, if there is jesus
* N& m& W* P  ~' D- lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 _* F" B0 A1 x/ O% ^7 Pwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
% x( c  Q" r4 ^- notherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  f2 u6 u4 X# r: F1 E
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 ]0 g0 e6 V' n* R: f& Qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: