jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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8 B* c. `; _3 S4 ~" Y4 qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 \6 r1 e& R( j3 I3 z5 `6 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
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many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # V& {% r  I+ s5 Y' y/ R8 X
but why jesus need to do this?
; \; X& L. ?. F" _0 ^/ Ipunsihment for what???" o$ t6 B( Z9 M' e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 ^" x9 G8 S% R" G9 utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# Q0 v  G' s; S( pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " ?" D- D1 [7 B$ h. h" o
what will u do???' l! J9 I) z) _7 w3 q1 q* w3 w7 d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉0 _  O" B0 d/ W8 d$ Y: @
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 Q0 r* j3 o  D9 h8 \. d

% i2 r- L& H% ~( \" i咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. Q! L2 h. n6 c9 ?+ E1 `
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 ?3 f2 A* D2 W2 g' [$ c% m8 a- A3 }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ W& q# x$ ], Y$ o/ Gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
, v( T9 c6 n0 e* [/ K+ P3 _, Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' a3 `' A6 U/ |but why jesus need to do this?
3 S6 ]9 ?% v+ z5 n1 q5 n. Fpunsihment for what???
% {- X2 W! H& }  X3 Ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  ]; q! f3 K; A. c4 z+ ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ F# _" o$ ?# rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  A" D9 K* O" R, V4 p# }what will u do???6 b3 \; x- T) U0 g# b/ T
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . [9 ~1 r! F! ^) J6 G, h

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& ?) I/ ?$ ~+ ^9 asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( U, N: E3 h% X4 y% W; x9 _
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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$ q. [6 j, ~! i& s2 |% e- ~! ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! T; Q8 i9 z& g" e/ b

/ c( {3 ^) G# P5 ]8 G* \* m% o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 w8 F+ [1 l( k7 k/ D3 t
honestly, if there is jesus' w, F! Z: f' x/ i; [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 v; j! u$ r+ t" p/ S# d6 Owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- p1 C0 H4 o9 `

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: R* b* z9 B0 O8 u$ p) Z; H好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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) ?! \* U5 m& z: ?# Syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 t! w0 |! B) _: ?" h
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 B" [+ w. {' ~; q: c! M7 X# M/ f
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& s2 f# [5 O! d  a
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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0 t, l( ?- Y2 a1 f* o4 q3 G& \7 lhonestly, if there is jesus
, ?: m( G5 [; {! uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* K9 n( @3 m9 {& m$ Q7 s
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 S, u/ ^( L6 K1 Z' ]7 Motherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  i# E. {3 n) z( v7 ~! L+ W
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ {& h- ]! ^1 {) `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: