jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
6 r) J" w4 e4 s8 ^仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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0 b. O0 N+ U$ q- N' h3 `( nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- W. P# t2 y: l2 d! l7 m! |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% @5 s' R! V' k3 H0 P
why this happen? just simple........punishment; k+ s+ s; P7 ^; G/ e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # H* l" o4 @( ^; t# B' Z
but why jesus need to do this?
$ E3 V2 W9 |  E/ ?+ o! {punsihment for what???
, Z4 J9 @! p! g1 Z0 h" |/ Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" y7 F0 }6 d& [; X& E! ~! ^try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) M* j) c- V% [' G+ j7 Ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - r: q; l6 n" r7 C5 A0 {4 I
what will u do???' k" B* i; T2 z8 h& o
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:' y# `; j8 X2 T3 N7 L. {
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% {, ]* W5 a, ]+ R% `yes, what did u think is what i...

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% Q* x) r$ l% s1 \" Y! j咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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5 B; H3 X$ C% T  Q7 o但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( J& P* O5 K2 q+ N9 d8 V9 u
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 [* Q$ G6 A! F$ P/ O6 B& h* [1 V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: W$ w" [% s7 c; u6 t. e
why this happen? just simple........punishment% I. _! d/ S: q" e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( w8 E4 R( y: x6 m' tbut why jesus need to do this?3 q% S' W/ t) O+ |
punsihment for what???8 i! q  K8 x4 P6 ~8 n8 I$ U9 y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 e; R" W' X  K3 L" R5 c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 G7 B$ v' `- y- \6 ?6 Y' gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 J/ p$ [" e. t/ W1 B' P# F2 h
what will u do???
) P1 L; e; k4 E& Y' H+ E; N! Zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 i- }3 d* H4 Fbro, did u know that there is a...

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. p6 @1 d  l, U" o5 o. E好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( c* L& c) [, E- o' Y$ K3 t  `
honestly, if there is jesus
0 o, {' d' a6 N( O% ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* u8 q1 ]1 K6 m" v0 Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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0 O9 {# `! L5 H  Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ m# d3 S9 ?& X0 i
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. Q3 w6 g" @7 }  b! {" bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 \6 z, [& x9 C( E: F: K8 e
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 @) x  s4 T8 N9 i2 R. h. bbro singgeihot and rest365days
4 `6 L) i8 w3 W) V9 H9 Bhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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+ K8 o: D. P8 ~, Bunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics# {2 _6 J3 }6 {, V9 W5 O( S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
& d2 Y' G1 U2 X6 x" T* s3 N9 z自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: