jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
: S- {" {7 S* F仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- T2 Y; z( J; O2 @) d; kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 c8 H8 g* n% Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" J: G" U! e( Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 j4 s7 x4 K: D' i1 x* A3 |; O) rbut why jesus need to do this?
9 n5 k0 V2 M7 Vpunsihment for what???) L2 K  |2 ^, C) S, R0 p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# W4 ?, t2 ]- o& Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 H9 k. K6 x" E1 Z% W1 Q/ L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  d$ K2 {* e8 v/ n3 Y3 c( I1 A
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9 S3 ^4 V) w! E( a咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) C8 p2 n: u, d; l; x
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& l( c& J) |9 `+ D  Z& \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" y! d& k4 _1 Q* P4 L9 Z% j( Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: h3 K6 B+ G( w, ?7 Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 M, J* k4 o/ h+ _* y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 |' n% q: \7 e8 E: {% I5 C' `but why jesus need to do this?
, A" G% H- J- u% N) V& y3 E+ Gpunsihment for what???1 t! L! q, f8 z/ E$ T) z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) p3 T( `1 }. Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 N" r' U' W' F) v- ]. e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 Z/ S* S/ `  ?* a& [
what will u do???3 ^, }& O9 C+ @, ]" f/ Q0 W
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( g0 s4 X- X# A8 G! R* Y$ W( ?

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6 v9 _. T9 f& Q- }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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: S' J0 h2 U4 j: Lbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & [! E' G! ^) p- ~" Z+ j

% Z6 H. J; g2 I' q4 m議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, u2 F3 E( z6 z) X" Q. F
honestly, if there is jesus
4 Y; V8 j2 {) w  D" A9 y8 H! ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 L; a, z1 W* g& j# ?
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( [2 w- h' _7 ~) p. z

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 [# Y: ?3 J: o
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' U" _, i2 n7 p5 e
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 V! k+ `+ W2 N$ w( O6 Znow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* N6 W4 e2 ]8 K" r. X. @% q- Pbro singgeihot and rest365days
; N6 f; v% K3 Z9 m8 k: F) chonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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0 k6 T0 K5 T  T7 [* c" `! Junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 P" h* J( ^7 B! f4 d自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: