jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 ?" g$ X7 W$ H7 j" x, @: B仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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; T' @& {2 M+ }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) G9 C" G, X" Z7 }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" M! j) F5 S4 N8 b: L# Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment. |1 N( T6 F2 E* j5 X! T! O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : P2 L- {/ V# j; s; j* g$ K  Q$ f# T* z% Y
but why jesus need to do this?
( {, @$ s% o$ R( \+ Xpunsihment for what???
0 r! u8 v- v- ?; [# rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: G/ V1 M% s) v  d1 \0 G& M. J; Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: F0 d8 A. ]9 I0 ^* y3 L2 Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) i1 q& j0 z5 l3 ^0 bwhat will u do???! c$ E% x0 G& M5 U- E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  Y% Z2 j$ I. {$ @; }
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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" M; y: m& p0 A7 g3 i: u( _* O咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 E& T& l" D4 H# m) P. r, N$ M

& W: b' l! N% V" M2 ~1 R3 s- Y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ W. l: b6 S, n# {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 K5 X, l" e, c( a. D* R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% B4 Q. ~# |4 s0 X8 gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 b7 h5 E* w7 Q+ _6 u- o. O; V1 @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' H" A, }$ j) `3 U& b/ E
but why jesus need to do this?
( x/ g- f5 p8 Q5 p! Ypunsihment for what???
: ]$ n. u1 S( E& D# l- h& Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* X/ o* q$ }! A0 Dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ C* `5 C3 @' ~* M  z. K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. U; N$ `& d2 V3 fwhat will u do???: M/ }6 G8 D, x1 l( I" D* X
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 v' }2 v/ L* d/ `& Z- D% C4 n7 s

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  K$ B  K: {( m8 t9 w. n' \% U2 ^

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 a* w9 K" K9 M( M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ x5 |, f' ]- v* Z) r/ L3 D$ zhonestly, if there is jesus4 v  g+ M5 T5 P6 j  v! D. x
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 E4 |: @, s9 I0 Nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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# l* v$ J, p; f7 Dyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 T7 {$ N; g0 I3 }6 x, _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 n: q2 `: b& {0 w* J. I
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 J  S2 f+ K. c+ O
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ `+ l& |- W5 h" U/ W- Q; k# j5 P
bro singgeihot and rest365days2 r  Z! ?' o+ X' B. V
honestly, if there is jesus% X! G: y' z+ M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, |9 G& _& G8 Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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7 n, d2 P! b5 q! J0 r8 }, o0 `understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 [/ p% ~! b$ R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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/ o; M1 F% R- G/ u: dhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: