jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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% c6 z" W4 O  `( _( Y- p8 @) @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 s" V! Q% J1 J7 B' ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( l. v$ W+ W  v( _4 M3 A. Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment' e" K8 h' A8 g7 X+ n# ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 K7 d, ]$ R/ E9 D# L6 k6 g
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 |7 D' E) |) ?! A7 d1 |: btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& |% S. g  R$ e6 e% l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : W; S7 R' e) D
what will u do???
: q# N2 a: j. H8 O- ?7 _: Ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 M% S" N  k7 g! X8 i; W

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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8 A5 b' i# ^! }但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 |) Y  I- w4 h0 K# }
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! o6 @5 f( k' ^  J9 I- `% vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- ^: S8 }- o+ x3 A; j
why this happen? just simple........punishment: V  y4 M- I$ ]( `2 O& C) j: y- k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % ~) ?& R2 y/ }4 e
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 }* a  X' z5 ~; Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 {: Z% {. w2 B$ v5 }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ q5 }7 I3 S% t: Gwhat will u do???: {0 a' G: x. {. C
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- J& r0 C0 C2 L% H
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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6 h  U% ?9 H. E( k& _! @$ @好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   q5 C. R) `; |6 }

; x3 e0 z* M% \7 g4 q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ f, l$ Q; G2 f9 P2 F5 r: {
honestly, if there is jesus
; D$ _9 J. m3 T% L* G, xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 d! G3 s2 S3 x1 L) s5 W0 Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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. _8 \& o1 B* k2 R5 nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& b6 H7 i, H3 {# fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 U- Q" U2 P+ S1 U9 o, v
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' y! w' {& Y& f! [: p, \1 K' O
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ T/ x) [8 \* {1 A5 ~, {$ S- ]
bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 e) e' J" W4 L9 o5 V) Shonestly, if there is jesus3 c7 m6 [0 Y+ A% Q, F- U# f/ z$ r$ s
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 K& @) Y8 N1 }; r/ [3 N! |$ [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) s1 O+ R7 o2 @3 N! q: Y: Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' P9 B! j5 y7 f/ ~haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: