jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' {% n7 Y, c) g7 ~; q. K. {
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架+ h2 t4 h1 I% ~
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2 ?- v' c* M4 d1 Q& b* m% bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 a7 i( ~3 d: o9 J  Z4 Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ L" H0 J4 s. _! a7 C* U
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 @* a: G" l  xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ ]2 j  S  X( C6 h' \! I3 r/ P
but why jesus need to do this?
2 L, ~- j3 J$ u" e; t: tpunsihment for what???4 r6 w7 {$ R. s( o4 ], G9 N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. w( ~/ E: h; i$ ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ o/ D: Z! j8 u
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 S0 p0 E! _, Y% x! twhat will u do???! i7 w! k1 e: S$ U
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 \# g; F9 `/ z8 N, V

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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0 Z* X5 N# o( c. V- P- u7 n咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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: A2 q9 O3 S9 ]4 {9 z7 L# o" z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 z6 x0 M& @8 |9 abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 o8 {! Q% }3 ]0 X. X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 F1 G1 f  |4 m( f
why this happen? just simple........punishment( h- \( t) Q, I! n- |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , S$ v0 Y! e; o- Q/ z6 F. G
but why jesus need to do this?
$ F% U6 ~' u/ G9 D1 [9 Kpunsihment for what???
( d, Y4 M# x9 S' S& W9 w" Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# K# T! s, b! D1 P# z! k* \" f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: }1 W/ c/ U7 N4 ~/ C7 ^
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + d5 V6 P& ?: a4 d
what will u do???% b) w5 s: ]$ n5 H1 l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. V$ c9 j% `) U: ~+ a3 F
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# M4 b  M, ]- ?4 T/ `- r0 ^好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 d4 a/ p& ~1 C# F2 C
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
' `3 ]8 j% \8 Whonestly, if there is jesus; r. z7 C; Y5 K! u) a2 p) |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, @/ E$ k$ {& Q4 A: l. B
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& l/ ^2 i& e! ]  X. W' C- a; q3 ]

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7 c6 ?& F4 u8 ~: u9 @( r. J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ V- g1 ]0 I1 syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& x* ^( `2 @: r3 q) E6 r* b+ H0 v
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: t4 V3 M/ E. }) u. U( |
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ ]" M$ E- }" J4 D% Q- R
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: G+ M4 j8 O" b
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 [+ m7 k& @5 s2 n; W4 |honestly, if there is jesus
! G; F1 w* m. z6 z& |  M) A9 r' Hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. I, u2 Y) e9 W5 ^* [we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics8 F% t: f* P) T) g3 o
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# H& b5 ~3 |3 P' l自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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* m0 G, `" t  J7 G3 P' Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: