jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ M* e* {, S, e. V  K
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  f* f6 f: z( H) A1 h) h$ {. _0 k" l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 W% Q4 O' l. P, |+ r
why this happen? just simple........punishment- x# n6 _* y& S% l, n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & ^4 W2 x$ Z6 A
but why jesus need to do this?
6 Y+ R' B( K# @& x2 n6 x; apunsihment for what???
5 ?, v9 J# v8 B" n8 U& |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, c. v$ d; c+ f9 \# {3 @
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 I6 A. K9 J- U: j. M& e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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! P: M; J& K3 `; I, P4 K6 S8 g7 Y1 ?2 G咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) A, u& [  Z0 W. D* l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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8 }- E+ k: `, Z. k# Z' u咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& X1 r! l9 }1 s) K  g1 S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 {* _3 ~: A! `, _9 F0 d6 E. w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, P7 v) y7 }" [; Z1 a. m
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; z0 R4 C  o3 ?many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) k5 @. w* w+ Pbut why jesus need to do this?+ C8 o) J, l6 f/ F0 S% _
punsihment for what???' @9 y. Q3 n5 k6 A! d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 ?, I2 E& m. S( z: j) c6 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 M8 w0 O% s+ p: {% ]/ b4 Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " r7 m! Y$ c2 [3 Q$ F
what will u do???0 B9 G- p" m& f2 s6 @/ z+ s
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 [, ]8 t/ ]: J  i  ]( f

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* @* N+ D- l9 j$ M: D' Isorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 `! R0 \4 W  M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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. ]1 l9 b2 G) X! w- P6 b3 f議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 g% e, `/ |7 ~- U6 a7 f; v' |honestly, if there is jesus
: s& |! @. V5 f6 H5 A& yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  w8 ?, T( V  U8 `6 N7 G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 ]: U/ w, V, N' n+ x# d0 fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
. G3 [; ~, w3 G, L- B3 L3 @& Qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
5 _/ t. K# F  vbro singgeihot and rest365days; E- y) c; d: X# L
honestly, if there is jesus2 H1 q4 K' P7 R. ^2 l9 y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 A; I  d4 O! k: P6 ]otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( s4 D9 r4 x; h3 O3 d" v0 b6 g自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: