jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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$ L7 p* F/ U5 I5 ]0 }7 O2 ^* V. }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# n: K( K& G0 R1 b8 wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 I( X/ F  A$ W2 Q! s) n/ X
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 C  ^1 E) @9 r8 |! j
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( V, ^5 y0 n6 p5 n. s+ Gbut why jesus need to do this?
4 h# O7 u, D5 i: ]punsihment for what???# J/ _  c- i, b! y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ Q( k* n* R. p% R* B% |: M
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 `" z8 J' K9 {& m+ T
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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, d7 e, |. @0 H% H+ U8 Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 M0 n( I) L% {' S" Q8 ?! H( \8 Q
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8 }3 q; o+ J, b  `; M8 N; q9 e% Wyes, what did u think is what i...

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2 [0 f( k( M" o' w咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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, `) x/ L# ?7 k1 g咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. W: x4 g# x( k) @9 p% vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 D, X' c6 e! U+ O1 h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) C# O, M. _. M: A0 z) U
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 w$ Q, _9 ]  e( C. h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & Y! x: Z: Z5 U( {% ?( D3 W
but why jesus need to do this?
; M. i( S0 \6 ^3 C, |& j0 F8 opunsihment for what???
9 S. c' r9 T/ C- g* K) f' o. J( Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 {3 g9 k+ a0 E
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ x- j5 C) R7 O# j0 j: Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( Q  J7 ?( W/ C! `' _
what will u do???
; _- m3 e; y; w( a3 L* T9 Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - X8 |8 e+ Z: X% Q2 P/ H4 B6 N

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) Q9 m" D- v3 e* e0 w4 |$ [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 s- n- M" {& O" m2 w
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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& t7 m% X* ^' ?2 z! d3 f" fyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 W) W( u' p2 Y" Ajust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ F' S' z: b, [+ i
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# ^7 G+ {6 M( |- M5 ?# N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 B1 g# Q1 C8 j& V+ o  m
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 C& j) l. ]8 {7 J  R* A
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 ]  H" U5 m) r; O: H+ r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
- l7 y  H7 z; z- i5 s自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' t) Y/ ?  X' \3 ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: