jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! B5 m* x6 u% j) G5 F仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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2 v% L7 K5 D, {9 }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 u) g- f+ d5 v. e3 `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 o3 p9 V& x3 ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 P+ r$ L! g. Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ A: Q# c% s$ ^: b7 \
but why jesus need to do this?9 L/ ^7 q) V3 ?- Z" {4 `
punsihment for what???
* ^: x: G1 `: j4 Q. W  B$ Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 h, T: r: U, q3 [try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) q* p$ {6 s8 g# y7 p% O) o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; n  d0 z$ V/ B8 a; f& c* S" f
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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  E% o: i8 g5 k7 |! X% Ayes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 u- F% v( z- W% j

- y0 _4 y5 ^4 N! e/ |但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: g7 m2 g. q$ Z4 L$ ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& l4 h; t  d6 r1 P: E4 l5 J4 N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  C: J8 ^5 K, ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 h% U3 a6 u- n6 ], ~1 |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 y: E- a' t! S3 v  e
but why jesus need to do this?
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9 y8 e% b) H# _4 Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. i% O8 x8 j  o: P4 Q: |' k
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 `* M# z4 C  m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  `& E+ g- r/ M# ]# [2 [0 ?what will u do???
& Q% |) }/ t  f0 M4 [6 O: Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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1 O% F2 O' p$ u% a7 w8 K. Msorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: y1 l4 }. b, m* }

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' F7 p; F8 {" w+ c

' n9 p. e5 e) C, H' P5 ~4 B/ b議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 W0 J3 s2 c6 t
honestly, if there is jesus4 r: U8 y7 u& _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: n) Q! E8 Y8 X/ ]$ C& h( F0 ?we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. R( K* j' Y/ x- [4 @

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ \8 e; b# h: V( q' o* [1 hjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 `5 ~9 k5 d. @so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ h. Y9 V) M  F- @
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  `4 s0 ~6 H  t/ t0 r* vbro singgeihot and rest365days7 M+ ~6 Z2 q" t' {$ N
honestly, if there is jesus
" G: s0 F" J! ^! u* q/ xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% Q$ x$ P/ f9 j1 `1 w) y% w& i9 S# q
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 w+ Y- J& ^* s  h4 L6 S& c1 ?understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. W; k0 e; s% m( F' r# \& j, c9 o
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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