jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) y2 Z  L  ^6 r7 O9 u3 Z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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: U' B8 t3 x8 F2 zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 ?% d2 M' j& {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 R; Z, R5 H  @1 a. h, k- pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ y4 T' G' }8 n2 r
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' b4 t0 r% ~6 R! N# X1 L( jbut why jesus need to do this?
! O0 [/ z9 G; d- g) Z) Fpunsihment for what???2 z1 W: v; U8 z& c: K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, I8 J+ @+ D& C" z/ t3 c2 Y/ f/ {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 A) X& H( P  g0 r( I& Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 j+ X; _# {  ?, H4 I2 D. Y
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 U3 B, T9 ~, }$ F0 m6 P, t

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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  d, O4 L# T' P4 g$ i  Y9 J7 B$ T咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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$ k0 X9 B4 i# v8 R) y# @但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 q: y0 {+ V: T9 D8 ^. ^
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% Y7 Z" e% T. X  j# |6 jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 }1 H% v6 Y$ T1 ~  _# V4 B* F+ x
why this happen? just simple........punishment  f1 c7 q# F6 J2 _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 `/ A, i9 N, V: x; s$ o) W$ n
but why jesus need to do this?! B- K3 k/ j' S
punsihment for what???, G" _, x+ R8 e5 r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 z. s/ ?, `- ^0 _( m; u) ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 }0 Q3 m: E7 V: c+ e* Q1 {  ~% Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 W+ V' {* i& I8 z! n# G3 owhat will u do???% @1 e, f+ ?* J6 C9 T  n* Q5 J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - s& \" |# L( g1 o% _; c  ^

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 n* K9 a2 y/ L- E1 L" v
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! p7 o* P0 z3 x6 I" x1 M6 E0 ?+ Y4 tbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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6 R) B* u% w. |- o  E議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 H: b3 b) _8 q8 V9 d% j1 J+ s6 K
honestly, if there is jesus
% i; s! a: d: _7 G* dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- }8 _' g) w5 \$ }! {+ U4 @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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1 G" |4 E; k4 J& W! a好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  V2 f  _" Q/ q) Z- wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
! A" r2 b4 T% _2 ]just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. E  R$ l: m1 {4 E5 S
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  L0 w. z& b% ~- Z. y0 ?1 Y# know, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 A# H+ C& {, D
bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 J( X7 [$ Y( a+ shonestly, if there is jesus
6 ~$ S  T$ @7 U3 n6 Q; khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ _+ q+ \# v" D- A5 s* C* \9 P) @! ?" Iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 a: M) p+ l( D8 L5 v5 v8 S) Zotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ O0 x1 r3 R, C% i' T+ h: a+ ?自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: