jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ s* n" G" w6 {* z0 v( E! u  z6 u3 b6 z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% p# z0 L- A. G  q0 R. I5 _( y4 Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, `% G, e4 y- M0 K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& `9 t3 v2 j# Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment- q& ~, ?% {% H' w( z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' k* s) t4 I$ k/ ]
but why jesus need to do this?8 Z2 ~6 z( w! K" Q: A7 R: H
punsihment for what???) {% K( T0 W7 e# L" |2 @0 `; Y  y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( S. A  e3 |: L& `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 v* y( }; j, L0 [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 c, T0 {" D; K2 N
what will u do???1 f4 b8 X5 q: l6 k2 Q' u& H+ v
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! D. ^9 y$ [' v0 ]
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) w1 Y/ R7 T+ j, Gyes, what did u think is what i...

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" Q/ L% t7 c2 A! F咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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. m0 `' H% O) h1 L3 E* U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* _  U% p0 [+ ]# c. B# obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) |8 j( O- B1 \  m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 H" ?% [# \3 b1 }! m& J
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( s0 B' I: Z" p9 u! qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: @) ]+ N  O; I" i( xbut why jesus need to do this?; E+ p3 t! }. Y% P) q* E, q
punsihment for what???; U* S; W4 t. i$ [" s" m" X% f
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : O' s3 P. M) x) l5 ~9 ?! m
what will u do???
0 n; E- C; M7 rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / s* e6 N4 R* k+ z7 r

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, Y# }% J# _' k% E4 w; `* F3 V

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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, j. ^' @& {3 n' W好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & |7 V5 w) H8 D5 J) c. {- K0 b

" l3 ]$ ^! l; ?, Y4 @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; Q  }2 i" a" ^' Y
honestly, if there is jesus6 S1 }" q- V: t( N) a
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; o- Y  q  p1 z5 t
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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  M9 U# a& f6 X( R0 J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
7 u2 |% R( y9 C. r; xjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# j5 y( }0 p" e# H
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 T7 G5 [/ L2 Z' ?) Y( e7 Q3 L
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 [7 W+ [% \) n6 ^) P
bro singgeihot and rest365days, d) ]0 x2 x5 F- w
honestly, if there is jesus! X9 W& c9 i) t8 L! s7 \2 _: C& z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 N8 P# S6 }/ `) W% c2 ~
we can't blow him :cool:

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/ y" `2 m# A2 b# }8 @  Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ S1 z$ ~5 i9 s5 K) j9 u' [/ x0 ^otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
. Y; \4 W7 x  a自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' ]$ m, M8 E- Q9 rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: