jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 u) D' x4 b1 l4 |; n, b
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ b$ I/ h% R! b! f+ g1 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 g0 F" W' ~) I* ~* _why this happen? just simple........punishment
  {( r. K" U, r) X1 Y. emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 U1 v% n+ D0 Q* nbut why jesus need to do this?$ }7 B. i8 k+ Y0 H$ h* x; L! C: b$ I
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& t8 }8 E) O8 {( [

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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) b* h8 q5 q) [8 X# O3 q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! ?* P( |9 m8 S* M

3 h4 o/ O! c3 M6 a0 L但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: z4 I  {; ]* \) R2 O% @+ z- C
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; W  Z% t% D' h& ]9 i, U" e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" K3 Y! V( C& b* @, swhy this happen? just simple........punishment) L7 T* \( f' f0 h) I/ j1 o& _+ T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 ^) `/ l: l* V
but why jesus need to do this?' h1 Z. X" R' v' v7 @
punsihment for what???( i3 V3 r0 F2 A5 U9 E+ |9 u0 {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ }" ?* h' J, }# bwhat will u do???* _( e& ~. P. V1 s: j& }, B
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   A! b& W; q- x! l' F' y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 G0 \! O+ P/ h/ \# u
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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) b" s: o. W/ e: e# _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 n9 k6 }/ U6 @5 b. v% i

. ]: V2 t% t* e  T4 j議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- [' r% f6 o- g  }& K
honestly, if there is jesus: U. n" `* X- r) R  D  ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 l6 n0 d5 U- E4 H% x' Pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  u- F* u% |! r8 \9 F  q
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6 c' A( e4 V' k; \# d1 byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 T( \$ v) t! T0 S
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 N* Y, x" \# l9 p) @: Q: ?so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ E$ E2 Y) V1 K( g7 Y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:! z' Y# g* _$ H4 ~/ B5 [6 E% x: d
bro singgeihot and rest365days) K) v; ]/ e$ f8 O9 g- j$ N( {
honestly, if there is jesus. ?; c  H4 `; x2 F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 v# J7 f) s2 q9 K, R* {3 ~1 N
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
* S$ M2 I) L* {# P" G" N0 m: W自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: