jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:% p: B0 D, q' C  G, T4 r9 O% n3 A$ ^
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架: A$ u% [+ A5 T
...

/ n( V. U# k* ]+ X+ }$ P1 X1 ~
- z: u; b/ b8 \& j& @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; z  E% d9 f! x" q6 `3 |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 }2 H. z+ S# Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* e) q' A: r4 L( E8 c+ Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 L6 A' @3 S7 Q0 D) vbut why jesus need to do this?& L. I# V' p4 ?5 M$ d
punsihment for what???
; k  m* l, `3 y' |/ _# Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ u/ v* E1 O) rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: b7 J) N3 v* e8 S6 b4 l( g& Q. V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 f& l# @6 Z. z. h+ _4 z+ ^2 {' T
what will u do???+ e& b& V# h. Q* t4 A* m% @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 U6 }9 x' I& S( J( m
: q/ w  f/ U) k: y: w
0 x. l9 q- E: n3 p
yes, what did u think is what i...

8 a; s# Z0 y: V1 c5 a, d' N6 w5 I
3 `& l0 R3 r) L4 [' g咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
# Z) j* t5 z3 }% ^4 K2 R% v3 b$ ~' q) ]% E+ _# r
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( a( U4 m. ^8 y& L8 M- x5 a
/ c+ D. G/ E5 J& i3 U  ^( }
咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( C2 K5 v* ^$ d( d" ?2 ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" J( ~" H* Z: {$ I- ^% |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 s: v' C% g1 V* @2 v) {" ?3 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ [8 |% Q; o( v5 x
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! d$ `: S4 z3 x6 r) `& q7 i$ w8 N* Wbut why jesus need to do this?  {1 ^8 D$ B" ~/ s- \/ N8 v, {# W
punsihment for what???* V1 Z) c/ Y1 @# S7 M( S, a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 ~) d( J6 N) w: C/ Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! h& @# Y0 Z! q% E* {" hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : a7 R. F" H7 t/ H2 m" v0 I+ L" E
what will u do???* t/ ]. B. _. G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
' u; }! l  ^* U% s  R" n3 @

% F/ T* @7 l, q3 Y
( [! j- U+ I0 v0 ^
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ Y, F# w  E% ~

2 `) u- x- `1 \) e7 C! U
9 G) z7 N  d6 c9 |7 U# I: V( e* [bro, did u know that there is a...

7 P; C2 ]( Z. `7 ?, `+ ^: t( _2 T
2 u/ r# o, M) h7 E

' D  p( r/ u  z* C' y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
9 v; U* G7 H/ v0 w0 x0 w5 F7 A$ l. J: g( |$ U9 a0 h* Q
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 R! J3 j2 I1 G" D/ J" P6 Q2 jhonestly, if there is jesus0 i3 q) m+ n$ s% L
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# E+ T, }0 ^1 O5 X' ]" mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:5 s0 e; T1 r5 o# ^# K4 y

0 W1 E( L, t9 R
+ M: ]$ G9 M: O3 q
; i0 K, l" }; L7 t/ j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

) Y& B! J6 D( u9 O' y8 {. |& s5 h$ \. a/ T
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
! m0 ]+ ~# J) J, ?just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& c+ ^" i& T3 E1 X' I/ b4 A2 P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......7 C5 {. K5 Z0 b" j) e
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  O8 b6 b: v: G2 p) M- n
bro singgeihot and rest365days7 L' G9 m7 c9 \0 O1 r( t: m/ e
honestly, if there is jesus2 \' d' G: V) k% B* `
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 F# N4 a: L" Q2 I( |* Fwe can't blow him :cool:

" ?6 L; h2 q) s& X2 ~" G9 A; {- C/ V5 D/ @+ p2 H& U
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 z5 M: K# J. ?& p' k3 Z! Totherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
+ `* @8 q5 R% f5 ^5 Q; ~! j; p自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

1 ?/ q9 E6 j  T9 @
  U& p" s# g3 k
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: