jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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+ q) K, e; W2 |6 G1 S; ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 m* q+ q/ b6 B" d/ ~comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, V9 m2 {( y+ ]% ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
$ N1 l6 U: i3 Z6 @8 \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" s, D; o4 l; l: m. Y" `5 tbut why jesus need to do this?
* o& @4 Y4 u" Gpunsihment for what???4 U! d- t3 H; N9 J, X* s+ j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 @' w- r6 T. Y; ^3 r. i) l& i0 L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  _7 @9 s) a0 Z; ]6 y# M
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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8 W3 X- B" x& `, I! ?8 mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* J% N7 o/ Y5 I7 E  j9 h( E9 d

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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% z0 `- O/ U# j, g. n2 |咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ C, _, Y/ B" t# i

6 e% B6 U5 t9 h+ A但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 l5 ]. X! z8 F( E7 Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. G8 ?  p2 f3 ]3 C2 B& B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 ]: v: b/ K" f8 Q) Z+ a0 u' B& o- ?why this happen? just simple........punishment( J7 {4 M" g: l- R+ c* c
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : Y3 G, H& Y$ Z0 M
but why jesus need to do this?
5 Y. m) o# B2 Z/ T' O6 W- C4 ^5 ~punsihment for what???
# v1 b/ M2 O. h! ^5 h' P  v- D- qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ a% O: s$ F% m' W2 Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 e+ \; ?2 l, {. \but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 k7 z+ L& v2 u3 `0 `6 u
what will u do???
( [- [  v& w- X" V9 wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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; Q3 j; x, }6 }: Y/ b. w7 c* |議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 O" |3 B3 C: J4 v5 T! ]honestly, if there is jesus
# s0 S2 \) j9 s7 [, J  a0 _he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& a! C" v0 @& c/ pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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7 j1 F% h( d  M* C0 q7 u好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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; `  n7 n- H5 p" ]yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# N3 H3 w  I0 F* ?' g
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ V  e0 U0 }1 tso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' ^8 P/ A7 E: A
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% V  R9 H- F7 Xbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 h# J  f+ ]# ?5 D& Whonestly, if there is jesus8 F. r4 d9 q% x0 e; {  e4 `( A( t8 _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; Z, s. X; k+ w6 ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 I" A- g* {9 J! P3 gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( R% F7 j" I0 g; ?! K
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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