jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  e) S: V% j  V, m' R% ^/ {仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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# ]( z. h( M# @. P) ?8 J( J0 Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) R* @* c  Z# M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& d% A  \) j0 P( M- B
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 U' e0 G& ?( v5 S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 e' [, \5 v: X& t0 \& I
but why jesus need to do this?, w% ?6 u3 u% {  W
punsihment for what???
% d8 ~; T) |8 }- @8 efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: d1 G1 y3 h" Y8 \3 s2 ]9 h4 n2 X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 J0 \  W3 T' C6 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, |5 {8 }6 X! P( t5 Cwhat will u do???( K- {0 D% e2 b5 h5 K0 q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% x( Z8 N3 D- z' p+ K& x0 R

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* L' g% u5 M. U3 U6 H& Gyes, what did u think is what i...

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6 @9 N6 C) ?8 j/ }咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 t/ V4 v6 Y. l* T+ H4 _  b

0 E- P9 R0 L' n9 V但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ [$ \6 h! R' d. K
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ [8 ^- M# t0 w! G+ S$ H% Q3 e: j' Lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ o7 I5 [0 M  f3 Q8 ]1 Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) s) r8 F) I5 U1 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 ?. \% D1 w% o1 ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " ^: A3 Q$ H' a4 P! ]/ v
but why jesus need to do this?
1 @# }# z! L  Fpunsihment for what???
+ J  K  f- W* h2 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" b' z; T$ S1 i) C' E% [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& B9 E5 F7 z. G+ q' U; n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . {  a3 t, t- k6 ]
what will u do???% A' Y7 J3 N2 U5 Y1 \" q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , z: y, Q" C1 {8 S9 i7 \0 f

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0 {# _9 R' w. U# W) |1 s. Gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 L' _, P6 m; S: M  H

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; f0 V' y9 g/ J7 X2 Obro, did u know that there is a...

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% a6 _3 s6 t; }( v# h5 y& q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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* |4 @9 R* E* B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, t: Z3 S+ W9 t. h7 J5 B
honestly, if there is jesus& ]; `5 b+ S' _$ L7 S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 ^3 o: y8 n% iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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9 \9 v9 i2 n6 H" _7 _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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0 w0 H* t8 O  r. r$ myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 L0 C  S- v5 u
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# Q4 O  p$ {( Q+ O' c9 Obro singgeihot and rest365days
" w0 N) X9 @: ^honestly, if there is jesus" U/ o6 O' ]8 N) o! a9 w: T/ l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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6 @* I8 U0 l- A* F7 @! z2 T9 J0 }understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ T/ P2 E5 ?. t" j. |, z' o# D! n
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 s4 ]7 E/ I* b+ ]
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( h" X2 q# s0 R3 N! F" chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: