jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) I" M4 h+ p. ]0 _, w
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( R  A5 Q; _% Z7 {* v9 Xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: Y6 M+ W0 k6 p4 Q0 U
why this happen? just simple........punishment( H( x5 ~5 I( G' K% q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! M+ \# v' w9 r$ H( `
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. X- S: `  y1 O  E9 }. x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , D( X0 k  X, ~. C
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, }* c) O! g# F" G0 R" x0 s但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, |+ l7 w' P7 i, \; I* c+ `6 k

) ], R/ u9 s9 I4 M  H" F7 O, j咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* _4 \* k' u4 }6 O/ bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- y+ @4 J0 F+ H3 ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" j8 C, ~7 z' s$ E0 k" O
why this happen? just simple........punishment& y& |  S8 t0 V! D2 `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / [# g7 N6 {. ?7 P. |+ g
but why jesus need to do this?$ H, E4 b! A9 A' ^, J: j1 C  [, [# S
punsihment for what???5 g2 W( w% Q6 W8 ^! B
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 {1 W' o5 C/ F1 p0 g" e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- R+ _  Q- t$ P. m  Q6 J; ^
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 W# ~- w& Z6 p$ x$ U! h1 p2 w! Kwhat will u do???# m! L% `% d. l- s, n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 u7 t2 K8 _0 L9 [, r+ h0 ?
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ I% L; s) V. A, L
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 g+ d( U9 j- J3 J( C% Q
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& \# w8 a4 l1 I2 L% h

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 ^1 t9 s$ P  R2 ]9 ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& o# g0 ?0 |6 [$ `4 G% B
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 }2 }, l; j2 m" |9 Fhonestly, if there is jesus, j' Q  C5 o5 o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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$ J# q$ a4 K. U. ^7 Y' f4 sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  X/ }# R1 L- _: w% b$ k自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: