jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, c7 N' v# U4 X4 U4 A/ k
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架- W# E, o; {) W
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2 B9 ]7 s% z. B2 `& W7 Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 q7 B+ J' \7 o1 `( r6 \( J! Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 h, ?! k' o! h; y4 P* [+ n+ x2 Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 t3 H8 U8 V* x% z% p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * q0 [2 s6 m& m% B3 h4 s- x
but why jesus need to do this?
0 O6 z, q2 \% H4 M: r! kpunsihment for what???2 d  i" l8 y$ w) J- g: H% {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 ~( W" f5 `' d4 g% W) U: w: Xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???/ o8 u  c. l% Z( X- d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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+ S1 q1 m0 b/ y1 f7 G+ Q& g* S# Pyes, what did u think is what i...

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# s0 `7 D' T* ^* \2 Y9 c咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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2 @+ g! A& c8 k/ t* w$ l4 w! X咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 A1 N7 I0 N2 H0 b: Z1 z  L( z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' C3 A% D1 L, Y+ r' ?+ D5 a/ Ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 Z0 e6 E6 L0 T9 q1 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment. q8 c8 z# H' N8 z- k: y4 }5 D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . k7 d* A; @# N! }& b, a+ y
but why jesus need to do this?
4 A$ f) F6 q8 {( ^  z: Apunsihment for what???
# n- Y. C) F( G8 Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  U/ Y( z4 ~& a* r8 Z" e( S- u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 ^* C# T: H; D  T' U, t( e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & J7 s: |, A5 W; {& [
what will u do???/ C* K: j( n/ D. D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 {9 ^0 L3 b% e5 W2 |8 E- J

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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- k+ j  Z% u3 z9 E1 X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 ?' e2 L* _0 `" _( ~% O
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. V! D/ {0 }" i: u: x# l( [
honestly, if there is jesus& `& q& L- M7 Y0 Z0 a+ q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* a7 ~7 U! S, R' H! a
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( E" E: U7 \9 i+ I
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# V/ Y) R( t8 x- i) h
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ n! [$ i6 L; z4 Hso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* z  B9 y" `2 F$ X- nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' C9 S9 M# a# a# bbro singgeihot and rest365days4 q! d6 Y& s2 @- O7 w5 m; t, Y4 G
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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( o2 j- e4 o* I6 B2 s- i  I; [understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( x  X5 _) c) N+ A2 N
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! |) D8 \1 E3 A3 G
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: