jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:2 r5 {+ [, x7 c, X6 Y& G
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ V  U1 R5 {7 v9 C; d7 e
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& _1 D8 I" f  p* M+ T* m1 Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  n# z$ F6 O* N5 Q7 |5 \+ D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ A3 ~) g- C' `. C. e" ^why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ \9 A/ _2 K. Q1 Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & }% a- _& q) R. o. U% j
but why jesus need to do this?
2 T$ b1 ^/ d+ q. L$ T0 g7 L- L! Bpunsihment for what???5 i5 Q7 i9 J8 B4 e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 E7 o/ A( n- Q5 K/ |+ Ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 V( l. t8 r% r" K9 \- o& b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  x% V! ]! Z7 kwhat will u do???
: U9 d( W- y  c# C% {5 A: ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:9 N2 `/ T: W  z! y  R

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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: z+ B- @) q+ S' Q: N  D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ y; D& j- l" m% [; Z
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 v  }: ]2 i  u

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; Y2 x" i6 p. x: V: @: wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, g% @0 S6 q0 A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, {5 z+ D& \* U2 ?7 n
why this happen? just simple........punishment* w; n' H* Y  b  a$ ]" O
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  d- Q' S# `/ @- N, c/ E( Y+ H4 Qbut why jesus need to do this?# F' D1 P  Y6 f/ V, p8 b6 @% \  V6 F
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, W! c9 O% K* c* f8 c0 ]! x+ F
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 o  |6 }- Z3 [3 M, X
what will u do???, i; \! Q, L# U, n  F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 V* R. I) [3 i' a' m) v

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2 ~6 T4 `% a% E6 Wbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 B/ X* ?( ]6 \" C- Thonestly, if there is jesus5 L8 b6 v4 B3 F/ S2 k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# ~( k# ]. d: b/ R) Vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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& K5 b4 I/ f( }: c5 a- j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 `* ?% z  V& O9 \# a5 y4 m' p
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ @5 H$ _2 c8 n# Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 p0 v) R. l" W: l# D% j7 ~now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
5 h% Y4 r0 C6 xbro singgeihot and rest365days
* E$ K% L& t' E" `5 ahonestly, if there is jesus8 ^+ g/ h0 G2 E. ^6 F$ p! u- P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' [* [$ \  N& y+ V# k. D
we can't blow him :cool:

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& h/ w6 Z+ ^$ i( m" l) I) `understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 K, N3 J) y8 \7 V: Q# C3 C
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 L5 e* |9 ]1 N2 V* s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 u/ v# y( G0 j: X# Z: b7 shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: