jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 G8 E( q0 X) ?+ l6 ~6 h  B5 \; r$ C仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ `+ x* x/ m% Y! ~$ m9 {' D$ Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 {6 U( q0 i! p+ z9 W; e2 H) Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 E& ~0 Z3 G) d$ y7 V+ i6 Jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 L2 |4 T( L' D% [/ E1 pbut why jesus need to do this?" b2 k* A2 D: [* s
punsihment for what???4 r7 \; o5 r0 E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; F7 J5 r1 o. ~3 g( [% k  i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) P3 V4 u; F: Z6 h+ J6 Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! W; p  Y6 @# S& L2 i
what will u do???
+ N, [& C4 b4 j7 _4 M" njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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1 W4 U' R6 D8 b但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% p  v% W1 I) O0 U) y  y! S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 f# H& e$ d8 U3 Z. G- O* W  S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: H- W/ O: v/ G  d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( y6 y# n5 d9 s* N! \
why this happen? just simple........punishment4 Q+ e7 {8 p1 i6 E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % F# h- c5 C1 l6 y+ h7 k0 E
but why jesus need to do this?/ t( A3 Q7 ?/ I4 b8 D5 L$ m9 H
punsihment for what???: V/ b$ |- D6 b" C& s
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, j3 C) F, f9 f/ ^. x) vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 u! @, X9 _$ z6 p$ v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + n! F! C& z7 u7 C
what will u do???* y6 |, T8 T' V' Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : E) c; d( `2 z0 |6 b& ?

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 }2 o9 [+ w- F: P# W1 H0 f5 [- k+ t
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" {: V9 q+ O  o$ h/ q7 ]bro, did u know that there is a...

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& p9 S# g$ D, [' r好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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9 a" r( `; \; a" k: _; S5 k7 F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 A+ ^3 z4 W! ?: m6 P
honestly, if there is jesus
# q6 i* V+ {4 f' n9 qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- \( \; S. L' ^, G
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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! N' l% O% ]* j' xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 `) z* I( P& C6 E2 ^, k8 a0 q$ F
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; w) Z& {% e& ^* o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% Z8 T, w  U0 h
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
; N/ v) p. ~! ?  Ubro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& S/ P& v* f- U# H4 k0 q
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 P+ V" m% O9 V5 V( {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: