jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* Y4 }, ?& y- N: L" o  h1 O6 O
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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" k& Z" f# |  ^* P, bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 [7 Q* _( x* b1 s1 h  v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 Z1 O7 b1 ~. l
why this happen? just simple........punishment; c2 z4 I' x; p( D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 `" I- C7 `+ A3 W) i( L8 z6 Q1 Gbut why jesus need to do this?8 J9 ?( i( |' O. d
punsihment for what???
5 z$ q, U1 J! g& q/ y2 k/ ^for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 g* e% p6 o- c6 i) L2 Z0 \6 h- |9 ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% e' X6 {; n$ D; P3 w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:9 x9 w0 x9 v2 t; D
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' p( F0 V1 b4 {. [8 f0 l9 k# _4 ayes, what did u think is what i...

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7 v2 o! `" R1 O1 c7 g& t咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 S" t9 y* l4 U6 V( G; N
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) C* {1 A% x/ V% w8 t
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& Y. c6 K# B! Ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 q9 F+ o' c4 b* W' ]+ xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% R0 M/ S# m6 }many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 b0 `( v3 W# t: p& p- S3 L( K
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 C. \' v4 ?0 s- O1 ]( P1 @) ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' R6 Y. u$ P3 s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   E) q% G4 k6 L# ]* Y+ f
what will u do???
; q5 g7 i% m% mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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/ M, Q% q9 n) `/ ~bro, did u know that there is a...

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7 s" q4 c; G/ t0 S4 d4 e* [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 ]+ W4 l" M& m% O3 l

8 |- S- U3 `, D4 I( l* o' e議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' |# D2 w2 k3 d7 h- r& T0 W
honestly, if there is jesus9 D; h3 y+ z2 I/ J/ s3 D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% A: H- h, {0 a1 t. R7 @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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+ y- r6 \/ A9 U$ a) A' ]( G" _* X, c3 _& Nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ b9 V4 I  x( {3 B7 Z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 ^, L, z6 B# Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- x0 K+ d% }# ^* u. \( X- c
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) F2 c( e; r1 y& @1 ?3 t" t, G
bro singgeihot and rest365days+ n5 k, ?+ o# h# I* Y
honestly, if there is jesus6 v3 l+ u! c9 R7 r' F, J* A5 g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, C3 m2 i, s. f! N& c% k4 N2 J$ fwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 q) |8 M  U- H# O( g& {# b2 Jotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
" s0 G% c+ x! J/ b% e: X# X# \自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: