jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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& ~6 h2 W) `. N$ ~3 d$ bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 @  x6 M  c7 Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 c# h; c  W9 {& O0 dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 w/ ?6 D' L' t. `" `/ i  I4 emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 ^0 ]* `- o( e
but why jesus need to do this?
: ]3 x: C  G+ R( C, u1 Y; e( gpunsihment for what???
3 u5 Y9 [: L6 k; j% y3 vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 _; P6 W! _' d& S5 ?! Z7 A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% q1 ]/ T* C4 L5 n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  E3 V. F3 y1 X+ l2 n, N. Jwhat will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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3 d# F8 x3 [6 ~; n  `6 X- o咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; G5 L/ I3 x7 }& e* k但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- @. z9 |% x+ T: x0 a- Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 a5 u' I0 r0 o, O+ j/ icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- n8 k  i+ H; k4 D& r5 Zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
$ x; y: @& S( V5 j. p/ j# m  rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" J4 |% q' X; Z, K2 d" z& O; F" Ebut why jesus need to do this?. L- Z% t8 u# F# w* I; `3 z
punsihment for what???5 y; L. [) d7 S3 X: d) g$ d! e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; J$ ?7 l9 i0 H. Z" l* `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( [" a4 r/ t6 a; K3 G: g9 ^1 d
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 k+ M, R+ J1 i4 }& _what will u do???
9 g/ D/ M7 n% Q& S5 U, kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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& n- t& q8 y. v& s2 ^2 r$ q  Ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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* x1 p# ~) T) Q% ]% a2 H& w9 l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; A  A% |) s/ ?+ D
honestly, if there is jesus1 I' i# p5 c2 P$ Z0 w! @1 ?; B) I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 }4 y4 n% ^  R1 q) r: u  Q* owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 s2 Q: p* |; C1 a4 r9 G$ N! xjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# w8 u' q* e# q; E$ v# _; J* e/ Z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# A  I1 O4 k# o& L* Z/ m$ u
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
- j( R5 _, F) k" lbro singgeihot and rest365days3 ]4 Z. i- \. S, j$ H+ o3 C6 c6 H6 {% y
honestly, if there is jesus4 N6 F# m1 Q5 A9 n  b+ V
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  }, ?9 c/ |% h' H+ o# _we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics* @6 k, {& H) H/ N5 l' b$ l9 _
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: