jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
* d5 N5 B$ c  F" L+ u$ q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 e0 C% C' B6 [( t* a
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 i) m) \8 p* N& m7 ]* ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' i8 Z. H4 M: z  b: w0 N
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 E3 u5 q1 [" I/ [9 K+ W$ T& ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 G' a& u7 l3 t" e; |
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( b) x* G: m6 s' f9 P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ C$ ]7 T9 e8 l0 z2 S  i/ j/ Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 P- a$ T9 y$ l3 w- n" Y* q
what will u do???$ o3 P& [/ O3 E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" T% S% ~* K" L( w* D9 E
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- j, Q; C! J7 ~. u8 [yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 m) w( @5 p4 n/ C) M# L咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 d# I  \, O: u) R1 g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; O4 \" Y9 z/ J  C5 t$ }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! P+ A4 D3 h, H, a( P
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ H0 `6 p  M, {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . |/ z7 V& F) A: D' K0 ^
but why jesus need to do this?
; f3 b, a- k6 w& mpunsihment for what???
  H9 J1 n) ^6 T/ i& B( s( L# F, kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 t2 [5 i8 m1 Z, Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" N  m3 p+ M# e, n0 }- L+ O- N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + j6 x$ B+ X2 d) ]
what will u do???
( n* A/ j9 S1 I$ i: Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( b. r/ c' q% l/ P. R6 B7 ], W) Z

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' X2 T* t- k# Q. Y6 `. |sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# v) f3 F* a6 s1 v% ]

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
, S/ [2 E& o0 n. Jhonestly, if there is jesus
8 B4 c* X1 g, m; f. Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; A& f; M2 A& @3 P
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" H5 T) @2 {$ s, \4 M- n2 g
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% Z& K& u  o, n  f  m: [! @yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 B& ^& Y/ f% Z& a+ \9 G' F/ G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; P0 s0 k+ [5 s' u" b9 \so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  V1 v5 X: O/ H
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
3 I# }/ \( l" s0 \( e7 p& Z+ ]bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 I2 H- }0 P7 I8 R2 J& r2 nhonestly, if there is jesus
7 e2 ?2 Y  }' H" Khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 P. A  C, A" |  y2 X4 T* u- ^! V. n
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics- Z" p6 L2 B8 r& w
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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( h& t6 U5 h  h' _8 ^haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: