jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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* _! d- Z# U  r4 r* G- }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ u4 h6 z: }; t
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  g0 T$ {( C( ?% ^, T5 r# Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
' T' F! S% }. emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 ~, [0 p* _. |0 `- S& S
but why jesus need to do this?
6 ]: ?) w, V6 X; b/ Ipunsihment for what???8 \( D: ~2 p2 S9 O! \) X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 B" }4 Q" z4 G) btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 B) I1 z, i; h7 I/ m/ H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) S6 p1 H0 t. D( l
what will u do???" m* @* ]/ ~, ~* X% k9 I7 B
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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( i4 h& \3 k8 s: x8 v咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) h) m2 R# T( t5 L
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ Z; ~( |4 @) X; v
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& Y* W- L) v7 L! ]# U1 @$ R$ I
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 j2 T4 g0 H% m; ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" X8 p; T# o; Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 e# G' E4 T# [, U* f% o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ i- [3 J/ {$ R8 q" G/ X
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 L# o7 D/ |/ ^. [  ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ T8 X. D" R; @+ P: R+ j1 S
what will u do???; s+ k  @7 n- R. e
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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: T7 n4 a8 Q6 U& \4 V' \4 a% ?sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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! X3 b2 S4 r6 k$ @好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" v: X* s: f, ]
honestly, if there is jesus" k* v# j3 z; G$ y- |: J' w5 H
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  w7 [( |- r& ^9 I( N( ?we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ T. y- Y% o9 y0 N% f/ v$ M* h
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 O# B' |2 |- [9 r1 ?' k5 f
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
4 f( y5 y! M" k. K; W* d7 s9 m5 i$ Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 O1 r0 t8 [! U+ x0 v+ b+ i
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
% o) g% Y+ `5 e, ~1 nbro singgeihot and rest365days& J/ t6 T& X" _& s; C! ^; }
honestly, if there is jesus) W5 ~9 [/ P: M: k, \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) x3 M  o4 I) o& h9 o
we can't blow him :cool:

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+ e8 V1 K! e8 tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 G0 H7 h( z: `/ E% }9 Sotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' n: g% p+ N% {7 z/ B" k% u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: