jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& l: Q# e. b) H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, s* S' Y2 [* }5 L# z" _0 B; ?
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* M. ?2 W( W8 }0 u5 t- Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( Q4 e. M! s+ V9 u8 C6 n+ O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ K; u% R/ E7 Y+ ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment. n( t; ~3 F( a7 V. N/ ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 A6 O  Z7 n' s. b0 z! ^
but why jesus need to do this?
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9 P5 t/ x. _1 S* }7 W# nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! Z( n6 S. X* b8 d2 C6 k  M  x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. l2 ]' X, i* k6 H2 s  ^) gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 R( T  q3 P! K# \: P( n5 Swhat will u do???" O4 S+ s3 u5 M; _- z  t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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* r4 N/ j6 e& k$ _yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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0 @  _2 v( T4 l, ]& d0 u! p- Q$ E但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: h5 O& C$ k* R8 S) m

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 ~" A& r3 M  M1 x" {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) |+ g- _6 F( w( ]2 c) Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* d* y6 c" C! A8 ]% p5 A
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( n% h- x! n! ^$ E4 {6 nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - o1 a: |% ?* M1 O* }9 l
but why jesus need to do this?9 N, U1 s' @! Z
punsihment for what???6 e* V1 [, X/ d4 n
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% j% {, K4 J. }7 Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( V! _" k+ R  f, J3 pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ w+ B  H7 S% S' `+ K( w& Ewhat will u do???
: w' M2 G$ a) Q  Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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8 R9 ?4 }( [# B. dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; t0 Q: j3 b0 Z/ \' i, O" v, c7 z
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/ s3 i* T" ?7 Q5 `) `bro, did u know that there is a...

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! t- b  ~- _1 q8 y' j: O好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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5 t% P) F: i% n8 [* H0 G議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" q2 W  |& ]/ K, x7 w$ H1 ?
honestly, if there is jesus/ }7 Y0 X1 f+ h3 Z6 H; g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ G; n! f/ b8 ?( V9 M1 a; A
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- a" G6 q5 G) l" Mjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 n% v/ F( m  O) q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* i( E% f5 h5 U: V
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, I$ n% j( q; t7 [bro singgeihot and rest365days
  t* H% w# f8 |& [8 Chonestly, if there is jesus. P% `- V3 {) h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& L9 q4 \3 ^  V/ I. Y# N
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 o  ?& U' u, Zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ |( X" Y7 t, i6 w) y7 ?5 w! T
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 N8 O: u. ?9 a; ]) Y5 g% s. i
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 M: s: ~5 ?0 R% Vhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: