jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:; l) N, D, p% y( l( E
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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1 s! N9 N) a  ~- X: Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 ]. ~+ }5 V9 C+ S$ [- Z+ ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! a: Z4 J$ W5 L7 }
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 q: S- u0 t; `3 S1 h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  v: F4 K/ n# U6 P, b( {but why jesus need to do this?3 n( Z, m2 C" z+ x7 @: b5 X% z
punsihment for what???4 [0 n( S8 a; w# n# A# Z' R8 {) j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 a% D# Z  Z1 H: w! w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: u. W, B2 @& I: O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 X) e7 j5 N- hwhat will u do???. I8 p3 `6 z$ t- {1 C: x; ?6 f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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. N, {1 ~! }+ y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* ~6 M! R: [2 r

$ [& l7 V7 U" A: c+ o- ?! W咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 y  ]' h" P5 H: E# M7 w  wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 M' G' s+ G# \2 \, @8 J
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 v8 g" Z1 m3 m# f# R3 r6 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( I4 w  z8 G7 `- a, \& \( Lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , n3 F; m* A, D7 B$ R1 ~4 S
but why jesus need to do this?4 g0 J+ q1 v4 \! g% J& N+ k) i! a
punsihment for what???7 t! ^: ^* `7 D5 R
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 A9 U! x3 c8 v  N: p) Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 Y4 s% K3 ~# ]/ e- Lbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 G9 C" B- N  v. [# m' a; M/ v
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ |- h4 L; q% }! I1 E2 o& [
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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& b4 u) i. ]: Z. L3 V4 M: g1 Y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ A, M1 k, t' l# g: p9 }. d+ Lhonestly, if there is jesus$ S8 C  s6 q' |  a* F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* U: \) p2 V. |1 Y- e9 D. v
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 w# [) U  I+ L# k' e
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 \6 i7 c/ B; k, L% {3 y  Kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 A  g) R2 }% k$ \4 j% D7 Bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 |9 D: Q6 \7 N9 z. P+ b. x, Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& ]0 }- \1 z* g$ y9 P/ k6 cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 n, I5 k" S% ^, P6 O, |bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 X9 I2 A9 }6 ~" _( V' ^honestly, if there is jesus# s: g$ C7 ^" S5 L
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ P. f6 @* P9 U) q% U* B9 c4 R; i1 y
we can't blow him :cool:

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' J' ?+ m/ r$ S4 m* Lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; f2 b+ i. [% r* Z
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: