jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 `  r& z+ x# A* w* p+ I
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% [, J/ P9 v/ c  W5 j6 D
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  @( Q0 a2 F  g  |7 g+ Z8 }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 I$ d, X& F# z9 g# B+ e1 D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 V7 Q* }! [$ O8 f! T+ Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment( c3 [1 _/ T' V. K% x6 X! l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; V* s+ u3 N; I
but why jesus need to do this?5 p6 J& e/ T6 `" F. m
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! B$ s, |7 w- I% y# p6 c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " @, Q" k: ?, S, }2 x
what will u do???7 ^" P6 N" d9 C# I+ j! ]& \6 A
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:- D0 c  `0 m. S5 z* [
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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! j5 P) S' r2 i4 c, e4 W, [: x) a咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 E. i7 h9 D; C$ c# v
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) p7 k' {8 [0 f0 @3 a  t# [; Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& W# V9 z3 l. [- Y) Y) S2 M5 n8 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( e) L3 G( |0 z9 Jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 F1 |# A& `3 `/ H5 e) smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 Z+ ^3 o- P1 u& ~but why jesus need to do this?
8 G3 I0 [( k; D! n) c# ?. U9 npunsihment for what???. G6 T( Q3 z5 _$ q, G% \$ A# ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) O' R& q) V( Z! Y! ^7 Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 h/ y" C  u+ z! l: ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' ]1 B( ^- z! p% M- vwhat will u do???- @% Y  Y7 j5 P. P0 g5 c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 I3 S: ?+ \. K  U

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; A6 O4 ^, [2 V" e- j2 j2 q2 I/ H. ssorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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5 \: i& t, K5 `3 o! y$ j7 V( rbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 a1 a, v7 m1 `3 e, Q( {$ m# H6 ~
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 o. T4 ?# E1 _# ~4 o) d
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% ]) h' k6 Z, L/ A- [2 |4 z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 j" q5 V; l4 p; L6 Fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# N6 ]/ ~7 _% w% e' p; bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 X; O$ u; a: }" \4 X
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 _' a1 m1 h. C' {bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ b) r0 C( j1 |/ p& Lhonestly, if there is jesus
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; @$ Z- n! F) c/ f3 Qwe can't blow him :cool:

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/ i1 T0 e% L  Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ b! ~: R( q) ], b+ i6 h0 p4 y
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 V" P( Y2 u+ ]3 F% a自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: