jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* M# G! W2 E: {8 z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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+ n9 M# c8 t6 q$ p. Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 ]0 W, M5 p6 U2 E, u! x0 Z3 Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  c" V4 I! C3 ~0 k% s2 q
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 t. v3 M; w% d% J* F6 r/ l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 O; u* R0 q/ A$ H: N7 I
but why jesus need to do this?* c/ K/ P+ V+ W: j
punsihment for what???. U. e% g, O5 {0 r& X4 i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 t3 O0 K& e3 q! a( P+ G; B9 q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 m6 E7 z/ y, q3 _& Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 K' d; T: z: u4 Z
what will u do???. g0 y! H* M8 c: U" Z  b: G5 o
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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4 A& t5 J* `1 _( v5 K% q1 E9 ?% k. W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: G* z7 H, O8 x. [' X

. g) ?' r0 {4 b$ L2 p- }! Y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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2 _# L7 U% z7 V$ M) g咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ }- t8 z) J1 t4 X# k
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; @) m# Q: i' j( R" \- x. O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 E+ Z( L( ^/ g3 Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 R: _+ n: i3 k$ Z2 W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 q. T% i" C2 \
but why jesus need to do this?& a# F9 S0 t; q: k) M
punsihment for what???
3 E+ b* r9 x: {, mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 L- S0 x5 X6 ]: g# m+ T& ?0 S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" C& y# D: i7 T* ^- M1 p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / J+ M* K$ l+ a/ w$ H
what will u do???, f/ g# [1 P9 T/ T. h$ n( V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , o' Z, W8 ~) l7 v

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& b* s  |" c# Q3 [

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' X; L$ d! i. h: O& k5 Zbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 ?0 H6 D6 @+ Z議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 B5 f# T( d3 b$ G7 F& Q
honestly, if there is jesus/ A+ Q& J8 @* u. L+ }
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 @1 G* J6 o5 t% z; e1 _
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ u* d# g  o& ?3 {9 u  r. S
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$ c9 P' V6 L. y) A2 g  }8 W6 H; M好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ c4 ?; d. W. V% \- Uyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# o- ?8 d  I. g) d, J; T7 Ajust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; z# E! d  E5 i
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( s* v. |# @; @) q) Z/ B
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:) r. N0 j' g+ o" U3 \8 G* [& u8 [
bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 ~+ C7 @. K2 T' ]honestly, if there is jesus
  i( q$ n2 Y5 m9 |1 Khe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 s3 b! F9 f7 [" W! i- x
we can't blow him :cool:

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, Z4 i5 m; z2 p0 O/ n; u8 y$ O0 H9 Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( f* q, f$ }# M. a
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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) U' k0 \( E% Ehaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: