jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
9 j0 p% o$ R/ g' i! r5 K! a仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架8 R1 o" p* a$ V9 S6 m8 ?* R  B
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& D: e+ m/ X( }, nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) ]6 G- k$ }6 }8 F+ t) `! }4 Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% Y5 I' y) r- e! U/ B& F0 U" N5 Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment2 ]: x- N5 a) R! M) w& a/ W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# ?: R; j5 k; r9 bbut why jesus need to do this?
' g: [/ Z4 ^( H0 Spunsihment for what???
: `! ]! {+ W, L/ ~for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 P; E$ P+ h/ J" _$ S; ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 c* G4 H7 D/ r2 ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & y# d7 d( H$ Z% b: V
what will u do???6 k  z0 f. i8 T" Y5 G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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+ g  U( h1 ]( {" i; E! ^但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 }7 K* b, Q! [" V
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# i# C; T# g$ pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 J$ v0 o+ P- gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 u; _' y6 y' F. S: Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 N1 H8 \  o/ t! X3 j/ ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 V7 Y$ x% ]) `$ k: R7 Ybut why jesus need to do this?# l, ~$ c1 o$ {, O0 {* G
punsihment for what???
7 A. W9 S4 l( j% }  J7 Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 P, {1 t" U# c; W7 J5 l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" u4 I: k. y: P6 [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: ~8 j# W" @( i- C" r) t/ owhat will u do???
$ o, R# g5 h3 d2 ]2 \just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  |; b& n$ w* O: m3 e: T0 ]9 L" ^4 `

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" B0 @& s- l" O( F  v+ @bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " T4 _/ M, ]( p) n

/ R$ J+ u* a2 Z" B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 {/ X4 V  x* ~- E$ v+ T
honestly, if there is jesus; G: l9 r( ]6 @+ M4 P! t
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- B, y1 Z6 b/ ?6 pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- C  m6 d5 o, s

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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. l' l- l; q- X/ syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 e1 T6 `0 @# \% A  D  ]
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 W& D( f$ `. L) ?9 w
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 ~/ z- R- ^2 M9 _now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 f( k( |) ?# ^+ j' X5 s; bbro singgeihot and rest365days
& q: E5 Q+ a0 p) K* {$ v6 bhonestly, if there is jesus
8 }2 C9 y# f  nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# i+ ?; P) X; a3 `; P6 X9 C$ D
we can't blow him :cool:

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' r: A0 X) Q$ cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics' W# ?! I; `* j  m& c+ W
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 o+ J  Y0 E1 I2 i' S
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: