jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# |. h' V6 t4 ]9 P& v
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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0 t' r+ z8 `7 B) {0 Q$ B. |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 I% N' F2 Y# _) `! m) bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& w9 W4 i+ F/ H$ O
why this happen? just simple........punishment) p2 ]) r, E* H6 {4 g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( Y6 `8 j! I) @7 `
but why jesus need to do this?
8 b$ O# d$ x# X7 ppunsihment for what???
2 ?$ z' g. }$ y$ n5 p* v# \8 i* Vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 s3 L9 I) l  q: qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 |: C6 O. |  b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 ~# O3 O- ^% y. F1 V2 u
what will u do???9 p8 ]8 R- ~  B8 A- F- P: m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:+ r/ B( k+ \# H8 K$ @& o  u- O
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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% p2 v5 }7 j5 T, r! O' A咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; c; I0 F; q+ @' p5 T' `' S9 m; ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ D' R; b2 M7 Z% P  ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* q; ]; ^2 v( A) c
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 z) L# @7 w% g: Q; O' I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 T9 l6 ^7 U8 W  {# V  e. x" h
but why jesus need to do this?
2 d" A# \) I% s* Bpunsihment for what???7 t: H3 Q3 D) m% A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& y6 J5 {4 H2 r  d) n+ B& L+ a! A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% z7 L" r' b4 v3 D: A. fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 M" p! x& ], t$ E: h7 W3 Iwhat will u do???: e- F5 D& e+ N, q+ l+ A7 l
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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4 y/ S6 W( F6 bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 T7 S/ R) n; T* K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . l* i9 _3 t3 h" z

! Z5 c8 c  \* P  b# [' ~/ \議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! f6 W( ]1 M' |0 ghonestly, if there is jesus
0 s/ h* y8 c2 q! ~$ W3 she really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ r" \7 I$ [' j6 z! R  y% F
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 p" t! D. k: b3 U0 y' ?
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 p- o8 K$ P: Jbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 O1 I6 L. d0 N9 O; c/ d* Ehonestly, if there is jesus
. R. c; _7 G! G- dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& u5 |7 F, k; R% h5 Q0 Z" y
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 b; W8 G# @) uotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 K" m& I6 p! P7 Q; e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ g" J0 |: ?) whaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: