jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 n) b0 k9 F, `% y' }4 `
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ w5 T+ D. H# ^! s7 {  @5 xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment( w; x  r# X# z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 K2 d! @  d' Y8 j8 |
but why jesus need to do this?: C  h% @: |, k
punsihment for what???
6 F* a- w+ Z( \: `for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 n$ y, S3 P; G- K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
; `2 [4 o' t* C8 zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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* O9 T1 L& [9 d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 B1 s' u' g" P6 K3 e( Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 W4 n" d/ L1 ~5 B/ k6 o2 [9 |# lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 E$ L8 d% B7 \% ~- l7 i9 R. _
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; X* w; u% I( I) P& kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 [+ D. Q2 u- d) ^7 g+ {# L, M
but why jesus need to do this?
5 }) y$ {$ a) W. M$ r5 k5 q1 E5 N; dpunsihment for what???
, a+ \: {$ ^. I+ g' X. ~& efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ Y$ H2 L! l+ u6 m4 R& V. X0 b: itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 `' u, D) W  P: v  R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 @; ^6 O" _) _) [7 e$ w
what will u do???
' \3 y6 }$ k# p4 W5 }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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5 R6 d6 n1 s- Z- Nsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# p* O2 \0 R1 P5 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days6 h0 M3 S8 u( z0 ^) {% U/ O9 G$ Y% f
honestly, if there is jesus
3 Y4 m. N/ h* r. ]; [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# S; [& T: ]  y" N) d* kwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& ]+ j( d# b% ^* o: N# B) c( V$ fjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
3 \8 k0 x/ H" x- @- Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 N+ i9 Q8 R9 E8 Q4 G- ?now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
- G3 K, `( N; J! ]: C/ rbro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 x& H: \( K0 j6 V: Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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( E( B; o; m# [1 C9 \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 }( D$ _5 K, |% S, j
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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6 t: i- S% A* E. X. g  T( ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: