jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ I* `. h# K+ C& C; l% r+ u
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, _3 [% j7 l. Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" @3 v/ m" W, a: d3 \% p4 V( `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" I, n/ {3 ~* T- R, d
why this happen? just simple........punishment( l! y" z( V6 _9 W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ C/ b: B, D. l- Z3 [but why jesus need to do this?
/ m0 U& l' v1 V. d! C& N5 O' jpunsihment for what???( L9 o6 S3 P6 K$ z8 f, n/ x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ E0 P4 q6 _  q/ ^- `5 [  H
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& b- M/ A, o5 Y" w
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 s" q0 h0 Y$ Z! S% ^4 W
what will u do???
/ K6 _# n8 s% o' V( S3 ^; t, R+ [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 a+ P9 e5 b+ }& E* `& _- O0 h) fyes, what did u think is what i...

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" X/ P4 ^1 {7 }3 ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; Z% n5 M6 v, v6 f/ L+ ]

! [9 h- A* d( u5 o; n0 n3 W但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( I( A7 m/ f  T& b% p# _' ^

' s. x0 O! g8 K" k# @) ]5 }  M4 G, u咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ K0 n9 B5 n8 H0 M9 Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! K5 _) P0 r) K1 r7 L4 d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) a% ~* m: n7 y. B- a8 v% l& uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, Y+ X8 G3 R/ n( `- c& _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 O/ ^! m% h: Ubut why jesus need to do this?0 y  b- @* I/ G* F. r
punsihment for what???
* O7 d+ ?1 c. Mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 ]  d  ?/ @' B8 e, P- ?. z! j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ z4 s5 I- w! D: ~0 Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 s; }* N" a' t. k1 ~3 }! {what will u do???
# v7 h' }, k: N! Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / Z) M4 k! ^% {2 p1 J* a

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 N6 }5 e) ]+ m, f
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( h8 m7 ~8 e6 c2 |2 Ibro, did u know that there is a...

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6 }# e8 s& ?( e# g& y( M* A6 l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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7 a! G" D, P$ K8 x議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 C3 e3 ]: `# Phonestly, if there is jesus
4 D3 g- d4 o0 y" Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' e$ V% j6 r3 S9 Y$ Y$ Nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, f' N: O* \3 z) u

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 i5 u2 x3 T# t0 K! V7 X2 G. G
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 t' z' W5 I+ A; T- m  K" v3 `bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ W* B( ]- P0 t$ Xhonestly, if there is jesus$ C5 L0 p  J4 E+ G  u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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1 P# @& Q8 w; [% I( s; L; P. \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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3 v: Y( Q2 f( r- W  s: B7 Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: