jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 k4 R! _5 U) F; V, ?+ V; v1 P) f仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架2 O3 G1 n& H0 P& a
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$ [7 [  U  R' z0 `0 ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- c) F4 p' s4 c( d0 g( W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  T5 t8 b9 u0 qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment7 `$ p/ m  d+ M( q! g1 C! @& V+ [7 o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . H# @) L! i, q, l; g
but why jesus need to do this?" z7 S! j1 X! X3 B* A% c) @& }* z* E. f
punsihment for what???2 U1 J1 M# a' w$ B! G, c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" z8 V: J% H( F- k$ Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 Z- N: P8 R9 Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + ?9 K  C) }6 i) a, F
what will u do???. c6 ^0 k/ O; i' m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) A0 t- }8 ~# q6 Nyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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9 f6 o0 x/ N% R) J9 i3 o& b0 T0 \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  H8 Q, x9 i: Y0 \0 y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ F, K; g( S, B+ N9 q% j9 c4 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 G4 Q/ B: E& @( ]* Q& K7 k$ b* _) ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 p& \5 ^$ N8 Q. gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - Y9 q# _, z3 N' }6 O1 E% r/ Q
but why jesus need to do this?
2 F5 r+ _$ k1 Gpunsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, ^3 z5 D! |' ^* Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 y5 h+ }, @5 [/ F/ fwhat will u do???7 |% \6 P" A9 c7 |5 E( u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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. ^# t% h6 ?8 h/ ?! k$ usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 c' R; q4 D/ G, m6 abro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : y- y5 |5 b1 B7 K/ l

. ?' z% n7 X; @( J8 M' F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 }3 m/ A+ S7 r4 Ohonestly, if there is jesus
9 W; ^: g" d& G# E" E; k" j& ~- Vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ [% {$ V; V0 h9 m
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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( e% ?  ]1 ?; N: V5 {& w, m6 _% o2 {yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 `1 d. r7 @  c0 q' P) |, B2 D
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it. a0 ]) ~9 w- E0 I; F' q8 Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( X5 R, h2 z0 d) C8 ~2 e3 T
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( S( n# ?3 {; J6 y0 p" z
bro singgeihot and rest365days
: |( {) p& |" S  K1 rhonestly, if there is jesus
7 C/ I: I* U6 Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. h3 S8 `% H$ c# |we can't blow him :cool:

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+ G3 S: D9 @5 t5 W# munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
( ?. C1 v. [  Xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" a. y* }( ]! ^0 V% C* B& R2 Y8 d8 O3 r( c; a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 E/ [- _) _/ zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: