jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 M' A) B7 s8 k' ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! Z5 a, G* ~  K) W9 mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
; F8 n8 C% A1 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! W- J/ r8 d9 M' y) o  q( B- a6 Gbut why jesus need to do this?3 T) P  K. _6 j) x- z$ |% }6 Y
punsihment for what???9 b6 s* U- ]3 g" ^8 B# r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 R# c9 \9 I" o$ u3 A( t8 Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 Z  z# u4 t+ A9 F+ kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . B0 l7 U  o& t2 Z
what will u do???5 D+ v# h2 I2 u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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: s5 q! v; q' M4 X4 D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  |/ f" ~& S" a! g
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 j! @. s  n; D4 N" _* a
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
5 u9 l" G, _  L$ f) Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: r# Q8 T  g' p3 b. }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ s- L2 s/ o- O: J* f  Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment% j" \7 h5 W0 z$ C/ f# G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 w( u, H' H! k, P9 D2 P2 K* Z9 P* cbut why jesus need to do this?
) J# N6 @6 {8 D/ ]* X% @/ X2 O: Npunsihment for what???- J4 l# B7 O# d, {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- A! C/ i. f+ m( Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- S4 r6 q- \7 J& `1 vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; l5 X1 J+ Z- M- J& ~- Y& f
what will u do???
( }! B" A$ P+ `+ Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' w8 ]& M, |" Z3 v' C: K- v8 S

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, B; _: J" O) Y, h' U% K( }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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: T& P0 G3 t" H0 _1 W$ h% J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 u2 q9 E, [1 ?  Z& V, X7 ?% K議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 R" n9 J3 J5 P; M
honestly, if there is jesus
( n) H9 A: \0 l) Whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# f, v9 w% D+ u& D6 lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% @! Q) l2 I( T& r) N* T) p

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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0 G7 `1 J" S$ S6 z4 {0 }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 @! R& A! z) l( Sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" p9 b1 s/ e% R' J  j
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 \( R. I  |, `8 B" l& O& o" `8 [
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:. W+ f9 p0 \& x: p
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ ]; @+ I3 _; ^5 |9 D4 Fhonestly, if there is jesus
; D; ~) t: Z3 C/ uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 Q5 h1 K1 g# `4 M1 e  F2 wwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 r  _6 n' ]6 P6 V  d: ^自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: