jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
% e7 @, I' N- _1 `8 e9 O" |2 a% C仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架# I- T1 `7 V1 N% a
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: i3 }2 n+ A0 B+ Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- `4 ]+ B- K, h: `
why this happen? just simple........punishment* X% s' C9 o0 W5 B, d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + Y8 e6 ?4 i7 v! ^1 O! L0 p& y- _
but why jesus need to do this?
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4 t0 F7 G+ c2 q8 i" P4 k+ {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. t4 R' Q+ x" I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ K2 Q0 H, i, w8 n  M1 E9 G; z) X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" y  ], i9 Z+ a$ P( I3 w! Cwhat will u do???  I3 d& y5 u" g3 W4 A( |
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 r) W! P9 |3 z- E+ Z- M. A
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) ^  P; ~& H) o咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( c2 {$ b& v/ B! x& S: I但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 K1 v2 g7 Q$ w/ N  R, i
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  }1 l2 d) T# K3 A/ L# w7 I0 ]bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" o0 {& W* c0 n3 x3 h; A" u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; A  W! X* G- ?4 }why this happen? just simple........punishment: h3 @" g+ t, F/ h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( o. Z5 p7 p; s8 x; j
but why jesus need to do this?
% g% b  n1 B0 j) e' b5 |punsihment for what???9 `  ~6 {3 O& W1 k4 N# F. j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( o. l5 p7 z4 Q3 ^& M6 j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% Z8 x9 V& {9 ~% `: k. Y3 Sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- s  {  ]! t. v/ H2 qwhat will u do???' O5 d3 ^" m: d7 S3 u$ X( u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, * p! ^: Q1 m' ]8 i5 Z/ t

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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* k! G! N1 z$ F9 c. C# Qbro, did u know that there is a...

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" K% C! R5 y8 H. `: v/ i4 i好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . A' u% @9 y: |+ s1 ~3 f

9 `7 y: b( U( j- t' Q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: K$ `' P) \! n, d4 ]9 n: Q
honestly, if there is jesus! T. E( ]% G: _5 K' B4 i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 y2 ^$ I' z$ f, D% v" l0 y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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- a$ B3 E, X) C6 e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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: q/ A' q* }' b- }$ U( wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" I! F/ N4 t" _1 f. t! c' R' pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! F7 F9 R  t2 @" Y( dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, ~& `2 `$ c- S
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; n$ D2 |8 L* M& H( m
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 @$ c6 p( Q  @
honestly, if there is jesus4 y) D1 m7 @+ R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; e4 [: Z8 C: ^  D, o# E5 n5 i" swe can't blow him :cool:

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' s% Z+ C8 ]& O1 W: a6 d/ junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) m& \. ]$ d& f- t
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: