jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 g; I* t, W  B% M. J7 cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. o) m! i" F; r! m# V
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 T0 L# W3 n- a) Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 y8 a  T5 k. i# B, W- |0 {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + H# ]  ^# X7 i
but why jesus need to do this?$ Q; P0 z4 v0 R9 A8 w( e
punsihment for what???! k3 w2 c2 k3 H" ~9 ?7 P
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: Q9 N3 o' j; m- s4 C3 Y! E4 ^try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 T# d8 r0 |9 N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ V2 h# `6 T* Z' K
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. Z7 ]- o) e; V7 d* c. j' `

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 i* x8 F9 [& j, S咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' n, {3 Z7 n  m* a1 J
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& c* I2 J- f3 J

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: d7 P2 V  F! l& \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& s; t1 t5 D. G4 R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 A5 {# A) X3 v- S* i& Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 B" F$ L5 B5 R; f4 n9 Z' K5 u, o8 ?( p9 z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 y! ]( V) B. N/ o2 X2 qbut why jesus need to do this?
3 L1 g0 b0 s. K. K% s1 N# s  spunsihment for what???
; ?# K& I# z4 I, Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 E, @* f: J8 |; g$ j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! d+ E1 i& x: `' p# D5 }but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 W' _( I0 T! Z" B; Ewhat will u do???
) W3 Y/ p: L1 n2 q7 wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ J* {8 r/ \3 A* I- }

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7 m* t# y3 w! Y6 D, l5 Q  O$ [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' Q. v2 p6 a. ^6 B好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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) I7 x/ O( \) `: I議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
# U% U# `( _& Ghonestly, if there is jesus
& T! f$ j" a7 E. n2 hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; S0 p7 A  S# T9 Z: U
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 J! K; e1 O1 A1 F/ F8 x( t

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* s# h& L9 T+ p" x7 Y/ a
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' B0 E( I4 E; C. Q9 Q- [so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......! |  e, P) R9 S5 `) J% \/ [
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:4 c4 I6 c8 c" r( M& n/ O
bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 D! b6 k1 n( K; x/ F5 ?; n2 Uhonestly, if there is jesus
+ a3 v1 P/ |% G+ |# m/ ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! ~6 _3 ]) {) o; p' x6 ?# o
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
; [1 X$ V! m# Kotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 ^% t8 Y6 J% _7 _5 Y9 S4 E: y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: