jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  a( ^( h. X2 {( Y2 c1 M
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 ?& ]6 H5 b! y. A$ u3 r" [( X+ w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( W. y% I, W5 _* M4 ?- o/ k4 }why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 ^# H( J* \- h7 {- y  Q* Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ M7 B9 \: E+ \  b0 V! i! V% G8 d
but why jesus need to do this?, D# |  Y, ~3 K& U. k1 @4 \% y
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???  i" t- R0 K/ x; d# f/ E/ a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ f( c6 E! v8 U4 ]" t& m6 k

4 n" b0 N: V( d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
  r. ]$ z; [9 F+ Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: n+ I4 {0 |, G# O, F" L# r/ tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 M3 D2 Z2 Z% x9 P* v4 M7 twhy this happen? just simple........punishment# u5 Z$ `4 H$ `6 y7 g4 |: v
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 V. G  C( O2 A% Q. d: v  `9 \# V* Q* qbut why jesus need to do this?
, S6 P: R: Y( ?- [1 {7 Ipunsihment for what???; J! ?/ K  `% ~* ^9 S5 U- N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* e8 y+ `9 _! q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# |7 r6 K* s& Z5 Y& R. I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- N1 g% G9 R, j% ewhat will u do???
( W% u) W& E/ ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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( D' u" s$ B) ?4 B& H0 c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! h4 \2 y, u6 H' M6 p6 Y& K
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
- N3 {9 W9 o& h6 ~% c. c6 J! Zhonestly, if there is jesus
7 ?& q, H8 q" N5 @* \6 Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; Q. M9 J6 y: gwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) U; p' F: R& P# a6 c9 C: t7 o! x

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2 j' N) \. I2 m5 |yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 s- S# v0 O" C$ {
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it0 Z, Y6 |& R1 V( \; c3 f
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... \$ Y' O& A) L7 Z* \
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus! b0 T; ~& @* D# U8 I$ M& T" C, n) ?- |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- E' L+ b& |4 m% s0 q8 t' f8 {" `
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 P! T5 q" i0 ~' A: Yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:$ ]! P. U' K* S' B7 v
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: