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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ O  b7 H6 |5 S* N* Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; `; R! @1 H8 U% w" uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' S& _! R- |! x' I+ Z

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# A% z& M2 W* c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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0 v; C; d1 O. q. @! V軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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$ c# B* H, ^4 o  [( f/ @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ q+ I  J8 M( Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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2 f- n2 r- |, J他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' W5 P: H6 v" h9 F9 m5 V, N

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  r$ t- F! g" @: a1 Z# BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 I: M2 y# \/ d5 F0 S4 R
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* ?! I- y6 y4 X/ h6 R8 f
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3 b0 F5 [6 y" b5 g' a7 q" i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: H, e' `+ h. Y( E. I

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......