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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* k$ O6 h( V2 s

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  e) c% R- A4 l- q4 T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( K" V! F/ I5 H. B% L  [

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9 g+ B5 u' l4 W" s+ nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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# R# Q7 O1 r5 ^. h( U1 V& W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ I9 y( ^2 m" R8 i5 Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, C6 f- F6 ?3 B1 y, n, ^5 P8 y$ `

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) ?: g& J" P- O2 b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# F2 k5 O: o: M0 {- }! f
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, r7 b5 L3 N0 M1 z4 h
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 x2 L; ]- b6 L1 T9 m4 lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 F9 c6 h! J- ~, f" [

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 @* [1 G: n9 M" ?

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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