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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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4 @# F' k  e' f+ T智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ T" M" c7 X) G" M' _

% F7 w( E; W: {4 h8 ?8 ]% s8 ]& cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 ~9 f# n. }- M4 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. x& c0 e7 d  s. |2 v! n
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! m  |. }" A8 i" }* d2 e, d5 ?
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 s7 ^7 u, }5 t8 K" j- N( N6 x
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! K2 w. ]/ S- O; ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ c: w, U* [( @; J打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) U; E, a- s; R* y+ D8 {" g! I  ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- Z" z' f, d$ y! G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# K1 K" |, \& D, b. T

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) i( ~- J( t5 s, @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, e( _  @  c2 z( ]0 c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( C; E& V7 e8 ?. @1 C! E

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......