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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: N/ c0 K/ {. ~( F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: ?4 T6 R" d5 ~# n/ UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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5 B2 f" [# ?" N" J1 k) B: z) L" z0 n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 V1 c2 I) |& p6 O/ N! l8 b
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, ^" m4 [6 E% A% u

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 ~$ a+ w  W6 ?! w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& b; P# a+ `1 M- _
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) O3 R1 }$ j2 uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- N7 t5 ]) E" c" b$ ~, F3 |! W4 p

2 p5 }2 q% @/ s1 Syes, that's the point.

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