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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ T$ c" ~/ r5 o. Q, o' d$ j2 O

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# V  O) I0 {# v. i+ @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- X7 O' N+ l. L2 |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% B0 P& ~0 h7 i2 v% Z. S; A' V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ t/ M9 t* F8 U6 E' Z7 {

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% I! ~' i$ D; f1 i  ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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( i, J; Q6 h* _4 J其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% z6 R' u4 A  B
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why?
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* q6 E* }- N9 A' T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( J. S9 Y' Q6 V& M- b1 x打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& C" e3 E6 f- K- P( I$ r0 D5 P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 t, ~7 q' z5 y1 b2 d$ ]& YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 R* K$ |% ?% a0 N

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ ^* j' @: Q. tyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 {9 z8 Z6 y8 A$ @* a

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