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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  O! N. g$ s5 Z7 o9 E* N

" B4 F" v5 F$ I* p, j% j- Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! c% m  Z8 h; G: z7 E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ `( C. M8 q4 e! ~
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4 G( }* a) Z+ K. s% _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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, ?0 B  H0 o- y' M* v: L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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; _: R$ L) i0 }/ `$ e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 \4 @1 T, w+ }% @$ O

, A0 u* Q4 q) g# P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ ], G, X5 y) S. B$ p# Q% `  o4 @# ^& X
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& u/ u0 V# j7 B, sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: J+ |6 R( o7 J8 \& D: H; N
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他比孔明更偉大

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1 N% X- ]" x7 k' ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 e0 s# j+ z" h
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$ T/ e/ }# F; H& u, U' H/ A  p$ ^% gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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) J% U9 ^2 L% ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& N/ Y9 ~7 R% H3 g

& {+ a9 ?5 f0 D8 A: Byes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......