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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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- W; B3 Z5 ^7 L- s8 f* mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; M: f7 Y/ ^% h9 @, C6 [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ A5 ?% h6 A. o/ C% |! |
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus' s% X  C3 V% R9 E1 |

# F2 N7 w8 W" R& L# d智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 N& `. a0 Z4 ^) W7 l; N
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% P# |; c! F3 u8 h" O) x$ K$ I

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% a1 @1 P4 P, x9 ]% j) @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& h, u4 O1 ~8 w7 g: AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 q9 l* ?$ H5 Y5 n5 UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ h' ~  Z, l: z8 S+ CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 z1 G1 h- t$ L  v3 q0 v1 P, y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ k( u* \% e0 W9 O/ |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 ?( T6 M$ O, E4 w6 l6 n! a0 X1 fyes, that's the point.

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