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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# e4 @* N$ ?9 j9 S4 `" g

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& h; h) d: ~! q& c8 f! Q3 c1 x( ~/ i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 }3 e3 g4 `- ^& J! T0 B# L# J4 UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( z) ?9 r6 z" |
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0 m; x5 o0 M8 h, R, hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus
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9 \$ \& j$ k' o4 f3 |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. `2 ~$ z6 O! W' r4 _- ?. @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% R& E9 }  o( |: j* s0 _( P* e) s3 M' @) F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! x2 L6 Y& k# J5 ?# w( c' YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 u" d8 d/ Z4 B0 N  T

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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4 V( S  }8 J8 O5 N  D! y+ `6 F5 |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 X. Z5 ]: H& T# B/ i

3 [- w1 L- F& K; ~: n  _5 G4 lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......