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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ i# N# r8 F7 L

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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! H9 _. p9 {- A2 N( h9 Dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 h1 z* b- M; p5 M8 v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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9 Q" V1 P# a' V0 i3 ~: ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ z. y% G, [: H/ A; W/ Dsee #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% E# N7 ~; O! l$ q* r, i" K

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4 w9 D0 ~: L. i/ Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% p6 q3 P1 a- h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 [5 d- q' z& E( j# G- o' `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) a9 e2 h( m. p* ?7 E
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 t: m4 X" \* l
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1 G2 d1 k8 V1 s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, |  k$ A2 t+ U) y; K* a# F

  {3 v; I- N5 V; d7 {, w9 _4 Hyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......