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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" K" Y+ H' q8 }1 ]3 E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 h3 f- e1 L& i* KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& @3 z8 k* h0 L; F; l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 \& o0 ?% v1 c
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  A# \  d0 i" r- Y# E+ O9 GBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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" N- y1 H! E9 Z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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" E5 H# t) }9 O7 m, G/ _政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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% B9 S! P& p9 Y+ e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' `- L' }5 N) S6 D- p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 M- f7 Z$ }8 k% v5 D+ ?! x( RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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+ ?5 F3 R5 q3 ^$ `0 C- N- }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 w4 t( w3 A" I  j% C+ M" r* Z
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- s. s- N+ Q0 [( t' C: p6 EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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; e, f- n! [& S; O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* K& v$ L" n. b  {
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......