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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 N! B0 M1 p% b  x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  f; W* ?- ]. D! G; L4 asee #22 Thus' o: O2 G5 c& o8 i5 k$ e

) V8 K8 g! b# y$ w智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 A/ m  B6 n, m0 p* p3 L軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* K( Z2 Q/ p& ?2 Y7 B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) i0 o1 R/ @6 F  hIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 J( u( \. U0 L1 G/ {& M
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8 A' k( W; p6 \2 {: E; FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ c: M( z# k$ F3 ]8 E) w

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:5 r  e0 m" [( X# I- H6 O( L
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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