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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 E5 R! N# i! m7 n

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, P# f2 w: d) X, C# z$ I
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ Y8 M1 \8 j3 q. K# G4 iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- H1 o! I, r2 g
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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2 q8 N: s- }2 J- w0 k9 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! D- ?( |: R% Z* \/ C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 _4 s4 F- {0 T& xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 U7 A$ z% M$ DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( i# f' R* Z9 E  xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 }6 Y5 |8 a( I* s他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 ~$ u' \; S4 c+ K; E2 U

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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