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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. _' w3 _' e: x7 }
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 \" d0 v8 x  B4 ?$ f

: _1 t9 Q% w0 k: [7 i8 V+ pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- s* t, N  k5 j& U& _

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  o# s3 u. M' p& ?4 x6 i2 L- gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, N" c5 Z! r' o2 @8 N5 H2 v+ y

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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0 `, b: e' _( S6 f% I1 A% a/ Q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  z( B* y* L4 y+ W6 K9 T
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  C9 S+ ^8 e8 q. l6 s" S
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# r8 F; C" t; r% G' W$ U' x/ aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- _! U: e: P$ ~7 l

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; l0 w1 e  I# J3 W# F1 `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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