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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 T5 I$ T- \, O/ I5 k1 q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; Q6 S/ j* M1 x. G, |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' b8 _! M$ I3 ~; @3 n- LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 Z3 S) @& L' [9 t. }! S# G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 d/ b0 w0 N) esee #22 Thus" ]9 ?( r5 s, ~) S: H3 Q0 O- B

5 Q* l; ^# c# \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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% _* x8 K9 k5 L/ V# [0 u軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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3 X1 |4 C- l4 B* b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 C- z$ P+ R) {2 Q. g: }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  P1 `5 E# N, X7 yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 ^7 s/ N/ Q2 c$ E* u
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0 z0 {! x  M5 ^' @% U1 kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 A" j+ d6 q5 `8 N) Y2 r
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) Z: S8 O8 d7 ]2 g, O

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5 O3 R* y/ ]0 `1 }, q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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