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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ n! i3 j+ }+ G7 R1 L' O) a
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 q6 R; X; l( m2 OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; y" Y9 q8 \+ T5 e9 h6 W* ?6 ?$ J4 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 f) U$ Y! G5 L& T0 P+ t8 @' R智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; i5 }1 Z. z1 S: F: O7 I

7 ~/ X4 F8 L  ~1 F% \2 {, s) w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 T0 g/ Y3 e/ P. c: @. |
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' P5 R4 E* [0 m$ [3 P; Y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  \6 @8 e6 e% r4 ?6 E6 U; e+ e8 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  ]# w; O0 R  _& j3 D7 P% Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& n4 M1 f% H, ]4 D- R$ P/ vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; x  ^5 e3 k3 A: n: p8 N2 J; {& J) T

- B- R, R' ^/ H! K8 P3 Gyes, that's the point.

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