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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) Y- p. N4 F8 @! [

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: ]- _5 \: U/ |0 TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; q% z0 O. ^- P- W4 R+ L8 v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' e2 [- \6 L6 C! M* H- w! fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; S" y1 Z! q7 S6 o' \; H4 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! ?) M' @: I; i7 X+ U
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' n' v) ?/ J2 Q9 F" O
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- |* N0 b- v( V7 k) |

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 V. g( n. U( V; s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 ~) D* Z4 V5 ~1 ?+ E: B) V

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; U3 _  J6 o! Q+ o. M

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( ?  Y' @; {" x" y8 n* k3 dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 Q# {' u# ^6 R6 S6 z4 r2 R- t1 R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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. B! z& G- R5 @9 Q9 C3 b& nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......