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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 l6 l6 |4 b2 h; jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 ^0 w5 t; i8 i6 v6 u% M

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( S6 r* c; I$ w! v# K  A
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0 ?$ l' S* k( J0 L9 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  G, v2 B+ ]( J6 }4 d智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* Q+ s" }/ L( w3 c1 ?0 z( \

: v  K) v+ }* }- l! O軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( m- B1 P4 B7 u9 ]

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" c) v' @! x  i3 L打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ P: N3 x4 k& t  a, B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 H; r$ R6 l  G: t

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4 g" E/ F6 n: X+ J) \他比孔明更偉大

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5 L3 c5 W, G0 n3 \" _7 M  VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 h* P: S# r$ n/ K- CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ h" @$ O- a6 P; O! L6 l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- J4 U1 p; R' i% N# r6 J1 r4 o
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

9 n6 C' Y& C0 F, `yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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) B" |# t( L6 T/ S# W2 Uyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......