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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 e3 i2 d2 G! c  c; @' {# q
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2 D0 S- I7 ?- A6 y' H( {4 ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 L- v/ G6 x/ V' A' I$ B8 v1 o1 Z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 g5 P: T0 l( v( u
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! M9 i: h7 X# `: D/ [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. o) g/ G" i3 n: p% Q
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9 ^& [7 W- E3 P$ u) o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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5 f% L+ ^9 @8 C智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 l7 S; k9 H# {& E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( _$ S" \8 J. P1 y* _' |7 q9 ZIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  D  h; l; l4 e: }; P' }5 w

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ A' }- Q4 W9 E; S

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) u3 }' O4 H1 w  a: d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" U" c$ [7 j5 T; @0 @

8 w6 d  d9 n' C( {yes, that's the point.

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' @2 s2 x$ U2 W) i) ~- Z陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......