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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" c2 P; Z. ?  u% w8 \  E9 M

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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' T: H) j) H" e$ j2 L- ]2 p' Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 y2 K  H  l2 b% K2 x2 j7 J1 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% H% s4 b% B" \) E- ?# F, j) q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 M1 w/ K, b$ y9 d( L+ {

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( P4 t6 A  B, i: G. ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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  K! Z$ [2 s  Q0 t& z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus7 J$ S  b* ?/ T; J* q  i4 w  a% n0 q

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" j) r' b/ A" r. R; r9 {* v3 Z0 S軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. W4 ^6 v4 R& [: v" i

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- b( j! z) U# N1 P. }4 t% M" O  M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  I4 R2 D) Q, U8 R+ ~

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3 {! K! a5 ]1 J) v- l8 l* w' BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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4 _8 j* r3 |# N" F6 K+ S% K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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