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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# n, i2 K% h7 d+ ^4 p0 U4 _& [9 m. p* D, G

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: p- Y1 `7 B6 |+ L: lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 {: M. p. ~% @) D6 j2 Q
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; l! t% K1 }5 r7 X/ @" zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 i$ X& G! L8 R+ J$ W打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; q. I9 f/ c0 u% {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 W- X8 l9 S+ d: s1 {, d! t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  K( w- q6 X2 t8 T5 a: A

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. c# I( a. M2 a他比孔明更偉大

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8 ]2 \% x% X" ~. D/ YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& j* P& {8 n- n0 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& Y# W' E9 ?* q  C! L5 g4 E
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' R: z* ~( g1 K9 o3 K
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......