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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 p0 q) |' Q  d! L

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; p. l- H  L$ W) G9 q9 q9 b' B; O* o

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7 u/ i9 H5 {; Y/ JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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& ~0 T) t0 v3 T; [8 {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 T8 s/ c( ?5 z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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( U$ z: ~4 l2 Q! m軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. i, @1 d* `3 Z( g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, A* c3 b9 ]0 t  l
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. [/ \3 s% _* r0 |

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) y9 G  b1 T: R0 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, V$ T- M& f0 y, PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 }1 M4 B, s6 I  O- g' Y

" H8 X" {* {- a" U8 G& Z; Byes, that's the point.

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