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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 P0 }# g3 ^/ ^$ `9 w

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 o% K' X0 ?. C6 L

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8 ?* K" `2 G5 W1 Q# DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. b6 Q' @' h( Z$ l4 F0 V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ D6 m+ N3 v4 h( V

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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' H/ G, |+ ?3 z, }( n0 O- x1 a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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" L) I; N: M% k智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 b$ X% |3 e. @/ n2 G/ L! a( |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ a  i( z+ t9 ]5 oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! q7 z; j; N* D. z. y
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- o+ ~( r6 n3 T* j0 F1 J9 ^5 L) C
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 K. B+ S/ K7 e; \2 J
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' X$ _3 m, J5 K3 B1 l/ N2 L; y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......