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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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) [: [  Q9 F( m4 b- ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ ~  S3 b% c) \0 |! D, ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; {8 b8 f' V* r+ C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( m" Q8 X) @) i5 m7 e2 p
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$ p; `+ _( C# Q3 {: H% P0 S" aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus& X. |7 J, d, |/ o

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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0 s: B8 v$ N  X! ]打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 r5 e$ Q1 Z$ n+ ^5 `/ m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( X, ~6 }  r& U; F
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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0 r# {+ n, {1 D8 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' |, v1 b3 ]) W$ ~) rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 A, F$ Q* c% M9 R
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......