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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- {+ x3 \6 u0 w- G

( [( o! K4 n3 k9 X  |- c8 Bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. j) Z/ f5 j4 t0 O5 z) F  BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) z' o3 V2 W& b7 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- ~" H* N" D* @5 i6 n
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 X; c4 D& c9 l智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ t8 ^  n# w$ @& x8 G
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; |+ H5 ?" N$ q6 C
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: K4 a  i5 P. n! V  R( I$ H5 g+ w, l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 ^  V$ V! U1 A* o$ q& t: H, w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- @( |# {3 }  W6 f9 C* b7 N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. `( a% _3 Y1 Z

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 x: y( d0 k" F7 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" j$ s! E# S+ l( h: [3 \4 P他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& X4 \/ @* f" B1 k" K0 m8 Q  J
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yes, that's the point.

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