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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* T% ^/ y3 n/ ~  Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ g" f5 n! A- O  N! N

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, E2 G6 g! F+ m8 U1 V! yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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; b. S; c+ q/ ?& U  K8 I, ?: N' C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 k" C( I+ U$ A6 [2 |0 T
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 J  E8 v) q% ?3 G+ o# S; Z
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! N5 K) r6 {0 k: [2 c# @( u

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 R" A6 c5 P0 [: n+ n' {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: I6 B+ T; g. h% a0 t7 I/ J( `

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* i2 ^2 n* D6 M  k6 Z% ~+ ]2 R' LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 P" N$ k* e: W% V9 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. Y: X0 j1 o6 p6 W) c
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1 B/ ^; O+ A* \- W7 z+ E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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& V5 g6 A/ h, k0 N8 K2 Y陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......