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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 a6 G: D' \8 h8 x9 p4 mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 e& d6 X& h8 b1 W

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 H- ]1 b6 i. g: d# X/ }' j
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 `+ q0 c4 _0 b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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! G. [2 B- m% E) n2 Isee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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( k1 P6 {8 I; Z, D, x  }& z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維. H; Y3 X, K. f1 f+ j

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, g! o% |) p- @) ^% w( C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) y, i! G% o6 s4 x
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 \% J# K. y5 z' W; \6 uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 M) {6 J" ~, F1 x& e5 {

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$ [; n  f% H, F) v+ p# b5 ?他比孔明更偉大

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/ L5 P8 j9 e5 X$ o8 Z: TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 c* ]2 y& i5 C" F
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......