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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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# h% m- n- y9 [( u& [4 [: @but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  w. w0 q  t. x9 j) C" Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. H4 _( B) e! d+ ~' V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# l; c  M6 J3 o% _' @0 [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- D# ]* C; ]5 W1 U
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3 O! j3 P+ c, {: w! e# y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ b) L9 K: p) M軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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: x8 T* I: Y& Y; {  Q7 x打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 g& r0 m* s# ]+ Q$ F( B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
) l. `; X; W* L! p" ~6 EIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ G( F) ~4 b  f0 \
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2 Y8 o/ G: c8 x9 ~! g# S7 i- U他比孔明更偉大

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' G4 p5 Q; i! m' p0 qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( v, Z6 Y: E6 U% T  K
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/ R5 u; V. p" u  P: t3 A! HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 {- Q, d) Q( }! D; K2 W" V$ W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; `# t' |  d: U

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......