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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ p- }( ~6 {) |9 z3 T3 [

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& e. D0 N  w$ K3 G6 e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) b1 z: D) v1 J5 I4 C! w1 u: nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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& ~/ ]! n/ F) h. A) H; J) |! |  ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" o' x: S( i% D* w% n( h0 K4 l/ m

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! o! r4 ^" S. l* {In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 H- V/ R3 j& N8 G8 T8 i! B

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他比孔明更偉大

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! l/ ^: c9 G- p9 NAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 C! p: D. d) O0 x; i: WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* s" ?* b- f7 Z7 p' j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* _- ]& I7 Z9 ~+ m

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