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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 z- b! l8 Z& r8 O9 abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 s4 d5 `; ]( p

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- M7 ?! G5 x( j# f& _
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see #22 Thus
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0 M* r6 a* m& z% i% o0 D1 U0 n' ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' _# m& S- V: {2 f8 x/ W! r軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% i7 C1 V& U) N! j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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6 ^& a) K6 z6 v打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 p- e! i/ F1 K" z6 r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 O( q6 T5 h1 q/ w6 g; R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 |7 c  h  l$ i* W( z# `. n6 I8 i3 x

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( ^& o6 ]( e( j* T+ t, sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:- r* a$ d( B( Q; x, F5 e. p, N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! C  O9 D  U# e8 {; {$ O, r. A4 J

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