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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:1 }1 \' X; }3 X, m+ Q

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 u. d' e5 j  _* t' C. z. o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. N& \6 B" s$ ]6 ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:& [. N7 P' g7 B
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 P) \! c# _, {/ t# ~1 b8 z$ Y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 z8 l+ Y0 e* _4 n+ asee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; N0 K; d; c- d6 I9 \

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" H' K9 |6 y! d7 [% u+ gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% r& m2 l8 [. _' d+ V+ U' I: p" R& B
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+ m& n" L; Z5 `) P/ O9 j) y" ^1 k4 sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ i; N0 m7 k6 W* ?' t: [

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 @" P. v/ k7 w( }" [- c0 L1 o2 i0 m
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......