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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, W0 p, |  n* H/ t! o1 \* w

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ E* Y3 K# O0 N4 }  d& }. v: N% P

' |6 e+ A& _6 g* }. v/ R: Jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# g) i9 p0 R7 k7 t2 `  l, s& PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# ^; y( y$ b/ V$ J5 t7 U7 O

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( c2 I4 F  W/ o5 x- b  m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. J) e* a! Z' s3 |. N

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; Q7 T' F% C3 ^! R0 x9 h$ w智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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+ k5 ?! i! g! J8 }, j! t( t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( }# P7 _: C& G; a" G$ d
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ p7 t' [% B+ M) Z# `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 l; m2 d, G% Z9 W+ L- L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' |5 g- {3 L7 `) e4 `6 v7 Y6 Q1 k

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他比孔明更偉大

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1 a0 j0 [( M" KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 Q1 T; ^. x1 d( ^& y) {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: W: M( l0 x9 G! \$ \- k6 G

& K* S  J  E. j+ _# D0 @yes, that's the point.

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