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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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, x. ^) J% r! V( j" Q' Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 }! A' H' N$ _8 U5 f3 [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  q9 R& ~$ O% u' u9 y( c

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ s, u$ ~/ L  N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 }( H2 b, m8 ^7 E' u+ G5 s

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ ?; I. {# U7 F. [' J1 V
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." j/ Q+ T) t# t
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# g( W) t- Z' m$ M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 ]3 G& `1 d+ u3 B
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. l1 c4 s  @, c1 KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:7 D  J6 R! |' |; b9 F5 B1 V2 K
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......