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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 s( e7 O4 p% c* L
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: k7 Z, d$ k: B5 x5 E+ ~' K4 @, T5 d9 P+ c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! t( g- W' S- ]) B- H
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 Q0 f% j5 U1 }) i. b; ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 ]$ `5 f' a( V7 Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' j8 \4 u5 R( N- ?

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1 n- ~5 l3 z) \1 F% LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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# r, R) K* u: n1 U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 [7 y  \8 G. r6 Qsee #22 Thus9 t+ r! d! d  k2 p& x4 p! N

# @/ k# w1 M+ |, p7 x- v/ v, `8 Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( ~/ c( s( C  F1 T" m" y1 B) a+ I( Z! O' ]
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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1 q8 {) ?! \+ x, I0 b. R; @; t' s打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., A5 y$ @: O" s3 t  _3 F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 N8 |! E0 d- ?8 L- O. L) R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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# Z' x7 R4 u# {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 w) l& M% F; Q  ^. f! X/ |+ W, \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ M) @1 Q* f) x* W# K$ {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. B& s" Q. ~( u9 x& K; b

/ l, G# g9 m3 x8 b% @8 Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......