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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 A2 v" s! J* t
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  v+ X+ N7 e( r4 V  w8 T

! G9 o7 q2 x5 m7 q( `but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 `/ p3 u# g1 ^4 H! @$ dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* {9 S+ z# K+ X9 h$ B5 H7 P' k( h2 e

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& ^0 z7 w) l6 i& S$ qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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2 p- g! m; {, m3 O" G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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% w1 S1 v& m& Z( Psee #22 Thus
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1 _1 t. @) ~1 e+ T- ]智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 ]# X+ a) N( A2 ^, d2 S
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" T3 M% G6 H# r8 C3 s% Z; _% Z; }/ ~
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 X( A  a( X2 E% i; T
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 V+ c6 B( k: m: @# A# A0 h7 y& S8 b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 x8 z. t/ X1 i; R2 y/ T( r他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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# E' ~: f( d; [2 p6 o, ?他比孔明更偉大

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7 D! ?* }( ?+ h0 U8 dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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: |+ |6 t3 b  H  X, f$ PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 e# `5 V. l8 a5 f. I5 ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 Z5 e+ v1 L& O( n: n. e5 G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 b; A6 q3 `. F+ s( ?' j1 Y2 V. Jyes, that's the point.

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1 f: P8 y; ]+ u陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......