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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 v9 a4 p& Z) a& @" S

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& R. W9 m- b% E6 u, L$ j& D
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- `; @  @/ g1 C3 o2 m$ h3 L6 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. [9 q, H* n& n. U" ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* t; q. S, |, r) b5 J+ U1 r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- m8 T! x9 u2 _* c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 y; l, @1 G& G- d

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., Q* y5 P( F' x, a' Q/ `

0 K2 [- F( p4 z1 m! C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 n1 {4 b- A# ~! }# ~; N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- F7 w5 {3 Y. S  G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* A6 C2 M' r9 w, Z6 R1 d) ?

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) r( N7 h3 I# A3 j1 D

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 W0 f& A$ p! U9 _. F  x9 j0 v& y

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+ C+ X0 T3 e/ p- ?# E4 \他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 ~! d6 w! l' u
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......