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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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* W0 s$ Y( @8 E" kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 }7 r" f6 C! q9 ~- R# q3 }1 Y8 N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ m. [: h4 l# n7 J, g

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# U  q; D9 h  ?: c( B
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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/ _& \% {" y  _. T# \+ u* _* C% I) p2 v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* ?& E5 b) L  j& W  \$ q  Z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! R" L7 R6 y. B0 Q6 U1 |
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) p% Y& ]: p  f' x

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:56 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; j  g* A- ~* }; @3 |. i0 O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 f. n9 J& }( U8 S0 n$ Y% K  T
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他比孔明更偉大

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5 e/ V4 P$ g" r* L- a  HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! D# d2 k# _7 {0 B; I( V; I( {% w

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. p: D# I3 S4 r) f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! S6 N1 s" Z3 s/ w* {* c

/ P: C# k& O3 byes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......