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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% p7 G6 o2 x1 @; o+ |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 M$ X( |' S5 S9 C" Z0 D" C3 b; W9 Q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( }3 C; J% }6 Z+ {$ g. Y

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* t3 P/ c( s7 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 B, t/ h( a& A0 \1 q6 P6 I( k
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ c* c* x# K5 K
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* [3 _! U+ d+ L7 W9 c

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! R+ |7 C9 Q2 i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  v. Y3 {3 Z- H3 A) V& W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! I# \( Q/ L" O: j
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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1 R9 `* t4 G- K0 D# _+ L他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ Z0 v+ f" {, W4 D7 b

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

2 Q$ a3 I/ W+ W7 Jyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......