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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& b3 h& q/ ^5 ^$ o4 W- h2 m8 g

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 P+ y7 v! Y) _' m. S

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- U+ B: e. ?. w% Z9 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: @8 m# A) h, Y- e/ c

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( q# ?% o  B1 h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- g7 t* U' r9 d/ V: y6 p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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& O& y  {% \3 I) iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  L+ y3 A: ~3 M) e) f  p

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0 b; f6 _7 I) N; w! _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, B0 L2 g2 [+ v; g. n

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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8 q3 Z8 t+ o2 [$ G8 e) O1 Xyes, that's the point.

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