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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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! ~% N+ V' R3 b1 S智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- X0 @  j. x- f

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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: ?" D4 }# n' z5 K+ N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 p) a- [# U* n; A$ A: }

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) ]( H3 m) ^8 w" \4 K+ O! S* k- |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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3 p: U' {, E2 [軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" W* I$ y+ d. R, w

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4 W( s- a: k/ H: |) V1 Y) Q4 i6 j/ J打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. H. c$ g. x$ b6 d1 P! `In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 Q% f" W  }2 k

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 q# W0 I! f0 m7 H2 y1 K& S2 d7 }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ O  e  u/ k9 m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 E  n6 N* W2 {% m& M1 V

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......