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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 p/ e; R3 {/ \1 o$ u7 d+ ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! n) r2 W! ~1 B. {( }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 A2 \# `$ m: H1 S& {4 r6 h/ R& d8 u

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  d. S' [0 M! H% Z4 r) M( x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, F9 N0 O1 R4 {3 \* V2 r
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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: y- _; H! z7 k+ O; d4 d政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 ?1 s+ H1 h1 L: B0 W9 wIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- P0 I/ v6 q2 |& `

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 z& x; e7 g9 ^4 `0 ]& ~" k
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9 h5 M1 o3 C, B( o0 f+ Q2 D( mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ g9 d$ @& F- {

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; }/ M% p- [& O6 R( |0 N2 |0 M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. f0 H' c8 W% x/ e4 @6 X

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......