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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* g' ~- Q0 f; }& `% J  U
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ D: w' ]2 l' }+ c! \; z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  @% X! v7 I5 X4 }+ C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 M5 W# [; j! D/ D, s( _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 T. ~5 f1 b, T( a) h! i2 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% k0 E- W" _0 B

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 N$ K* d9 d0 T& r- D& O& u- a$ v( C( u

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4 C1 s$ w3 V2 ?0 `, t打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., k( _$ w5 s4 W$ E0 }7 \$ @9 B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" ^) c0 Z) l; x" F$ x! n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ c( o4 Y0 q0 g) A$ R% ~3 i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ {: s/ i2 ]' q" ]" {; x/ V

6 B( k" w( Q& Z0 m$ eyes, that's the point.

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