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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 f+ n; l2 o7 j: w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. Z7 v, p6 p6 r* u8 ]

$ C8 b) ?& u6 S- ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ F* \+ Q! G% \" m* R2 I5 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 ]9 r. J, S3 c' M% Q* BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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5 M9 R" e( e4 p. `: P& _: q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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: k1 G: y% m9 R" }. ~軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 y7 j) r. v3 ]1 ]9 |8 h& y* O7 G1 G" ^
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.7 I5 R) R$ q: [1 G' Y/ d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 Q* y$ e- N7 ~3 N, Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- z9 Z3 [" r2 \0 Q! l- o
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 _: s) z: m7 Y

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- x) M4 V: k) _8 z
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......