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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" V4 N# g% x8 W# G$ v( s* M7 Z" f3 w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: L9 |/ Y# s. l6 nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:" b% H" V2 B! G/ r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% ]& n0 h# i- D$ ~( _8 E# `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( q; i- q) ]1 W' L8 E& G
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# L0 J  k9 H# Y4 @打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% b. H$ f6 \7 L2 f) o  f
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% D0 M+ }& S  u$ rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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. \5 E* a! b) R$ z, \/ N2 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 x% k& g# L$ r

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 L2 T5 w+ `" m" D4 b5 f! a/ _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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