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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* p! Y9 r2 u" i( R7 t; Q7 E
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& Q# v8 o* s2 S3 i

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' K; ^. @& `5 c5 a/ G* e  XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 [! Z7 A' _" A

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why?
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+ p: j2 {/ j( ^( D4 n其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' m7 L* s* ~8 F0 y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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3 ^5 ?6 i2 A/ r5 ~$ L& r7 i: g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: |: L7 f2 Q- `3 C- ?9 k) \4 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

7 N3 p" y* G! Byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. m3 P# I" U6 `3 ^- h( R

9 |6 |/ n& T- K/ j$ V4 K' j0 Syes, that's the point.

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