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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 T) o+ B5 }: e! d) |) {
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) y5 [' _5 T% k- oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 t" V7 f  f# E
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: I4 B+ }8 G- S( r' w! d% |3 jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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: k2 B4 O; _5 x" M" a% ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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* l& v1 r& N6 q9 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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) ?/ H9 Y6 j6 Q$ X8 H" h軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ B1 W$ J+ M* ]1 w4 iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 }, W4 d  f" G7 F7 T  ~1 @, W

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他比孔明更偉大

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3 E+ {5 K: b# _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  u0 F( X' L0 j) s7 ]$ h& G8 q7 N4 ]; ?

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4 u/ `" ]* q# u% }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' R% y& l) h% q$ q5 M7 ^  `( k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ Q0 R3 I/ @3 j4 K! b9 h
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......