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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# \  E! l" V$ K8 \" W$ h
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) V9 e9 C& J2 [& ~; j. L: Z: }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 I7 L+ n  _/ i
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 G1 J$ C9 T# M1 \3 Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 l1 G* p% ]& j- j$ N) ^+ ?; z

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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( W! D; g) ]& o% U2 H5 ~) Csee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" `0 X2 U/ s; B2 e
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) h* R+ z9 n0 v0 w& v

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# i5 s- C$ G, {# B$ O5 l; `/ ]2 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 _' i( o: O! Y: a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:) k# _' P, S) Y

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+ O$ r3 a; x! N) r( f0 _6 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' t& R! k$ b) d/ G3 I0 |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! I1 g' I+ ~$ Z4 p- C6 C9 K

6 I% ?2 }% g4 f" `1 \$ g3 `yes, that's the point.

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, K! p- G  G7 n. O6 h0 H陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......