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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 ]$ ]% ]5 Q! D0 e
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2 v# L, `( `- A) I/ Z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& }  K; t/ Q  K

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?% ~4 {5 }* i$ V% R

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 M4 i& {4 b# }2 r% ~2 Z  {+ U$ l

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7 }4 K8 P' ~! f' r8 b" a$ A% J軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' a# J# N8 ?8 ^, O2 U. @
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 Q4 X/ b/ b2 B
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
" a/ @( T" s& d: I5 x& lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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. E& |) a! E2 P  C6 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. G4 h: `( R0 B' B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ f. u3 a2 |- B$ e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 _# M" }  Z2 C. O8 E' Vyes, that's the point.

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. _: a3 @# l; y% r4 C( l3 E陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......