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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 H' G* P$ o6 i+ e4 U: f& p

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; T1 l2 A5 v- @4 y8 E& ~

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ D. q: r1 @- g' ~8 ~  f; }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 H2 a+ g0 b" n3 I2 v2 j4 b3 g$ I
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" V  x. b( U. F2 X4 r& \( M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 C8 P: \3 i' z; M  d$ x$ Wsee #22 Thus/ q- F. r  p1 P& c, d

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 P6 ?6 }, _0 E% l/ Q7 W" [

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
. ?7 s$ \$ D) T: n0 S0 ?. kIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ c' n2 C' N5 ~+ v+ G9 k

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' m& [' _  t7 c$ ^7 i6 l

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ _5 t8 R3 T4 H( U: z+ v; y  e- y
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......