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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* [$ z. |) ^+ |' I1 M

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ t: U9 {  O  \: k0 ?7 `

1 s- C% t% O+ R2 xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  v. Z. ?# K( _: _$ M" ?8 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 q% j  A9 y" u* J, T" j& q9 k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! P; p3 q; l( f" H/ G# @
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% A( x0 F5 o& JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& D( A- ^# j* j6 H/ N" ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 x, M8 z/ l: K( B: ?7 c

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( F# j8 X/ H3 y9 C4 T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 t$ H! I' w$ M) a! N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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) t# S7 }+ U) v5 d  S) WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; n) R7 I6 `: R" [% ^6 _
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 B; Q- T. I4 T: h* k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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( U/ g$ s0 C2 w; \& nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......