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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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9 ?  R" e6 ^" G- d6 x/ ?! \智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# O' b- D; e4 ?* R' L) F% d
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# |% b) u1 P# K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 a' I, G0 I$ D) J5 E7 J& @

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 }. K$ y5 d" P3 u3 y4 k其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( k" f4 G% A  I

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why?
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, F$ ~  a8 ~" _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus* G- W; T8 E) a# k  |* n" w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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" l5 w2 U4 }, T, e& v軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 C0 w1 c, @& V2 U) M
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( H) V9 i+ E+ T* x6 s0 U5 _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, N5 Z5 I$ H% h8 O: ]9 \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 q% }' Z- a+ b* z
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. L* T1 P$ @. ^, M# }0 V' |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 Z' b; z0 J( v& I: j6 T. [

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7 c3 u0 J* u) AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: T8 ]2 S. ?2 |* T5 E  j

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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& j' b0 G% T! J& N陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......