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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% Z- m( l% B, y. V6 U8 n8 k$ K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.. O' B4 w+ o, R- X( D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 |/ h/ Q+ [) K9 y$ Y  j) ?

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6 `0 s3 Q5 C9 R) @6 D2 \) eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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+ K/ W0 I  u0 m/ _$ c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ h' k7 D* {& ^& E  D* k* L

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+ \! y; D9 W, l  y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' |0 S7 l% w9 j- x. z/ }; V2 TIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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0 X% @7 m2 \$ ]他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- f) x) C+ M) }& t9 T* u9 `" H# t' @

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ G& u8 U/ ^7 Wyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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