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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 Z2 K+ I! f8 c* r7 Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: ~) L1 k7 ~  C. j( X! @0 W3 |0 [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 c4 O: a, ]: }8 A6 {
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) t4 Y) e8 s* q' _
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 x1 j. v5 i: M/ ]" F, L

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' _+ ^( _" l: h8 G" `, j3 Z5 ^
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 A6 X9 e7 b% G. U/ S: e+ I- x0 u
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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& R# z+ G( z9 R. |. w% u* |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, A* u+ Z! S5 c3 {
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' H" N0 ^6 p% a( p: m3 @2 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; V7 }/ L+ H% ?! w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 u" ?" Q7 {+ h/ c; A

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# [5 E% K0 ?) O( S# B( f0 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:# T, m- ~: @+ j8 w- R

6 [) S, q* N, J" d+ e7 hyes, that's the point.

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# M5 {; j( x7 }/ Z0 X2 Y' Q; l+ T陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......