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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" q* [1 O* Y; s# ]% h9 U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  z: ]% X5 j8 v6 G0 g  C0 T& b! ?
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 D7 H" H3 [1 U( T3 ~: {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  j) h$ ^, H/ G

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! x6 X% M0 T, [; h% w2 o! c8 n
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why?
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see #22 Thus
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  m( H. h3 r! F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ s. A' N# i' M: ?" g: t
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! @) C/ k9 G* _% y: \# n( {$ E9 l$ |

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' `" ?. n1 W2 {8 sIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: h+ J) Z; Q) P
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 b8 A. R) Q3 AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ g3 h! m) m9 [

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 t$ u7 J; n; ^  P

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......