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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; o9 @3 D# i2 w- D, {+ _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# A) g5 A1 P; W# y+ P9 ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ d! j# ]: B& T7 c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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  I4 n! L  n; D) u4 `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 [6 x4 K4 f: q( R

1 D$ s! Z+ d& l+ x0 |) g( {0 z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* \- e% a4 Y1 P! V* U4 g. j

/ U$ L5 f8 u2 p1 {7 {: Q5 C, A. s! |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ K& J3 i- j3 ?$ u0 _2 p

4 n3 @1 i/ S0 Z. `: X政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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" I4 P1 E! |0 O/ S9 ?5 u* v' h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  x9 h9 ]' {3 r. ~/ \4 S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) t& M* i7 C3 u" |

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# }( Q- S' K6 m8 u: |

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' i! Q6 P; M1 z4 [; ?; n7 Y- H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

" s- T0 R) h$ ^0 Ayes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( y3 y4 d/ q1 A) \2 K5 z' `
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......