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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.$ t# v( u4 z! H/ T  N2 {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, j7 q. `9 O2 l  f. \+ S) h& G
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9 ?, N6 i  i/ m4 S7 @  nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& N+ r1 Q( U+ G: F. l- q

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; Z" l7 w. O/ y0 l# J' I3 a0 v3 I$ J0 B

+ h' a1 G( B1 e軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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; d# [! Q# q: R  M9 g: Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., [2 }0 Y0 H* @  B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 L$ d# |  r- i$ UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& N( e' F% a: T$ H( x% a

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他比孔明更偉大

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' B# Q5 o+ Q- M) {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  g" I, t# z5 V# O7 d: m
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( ~' l+ C" @3 i) Q
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 J5 y7 d2 T" w6 B

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