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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ ~: N+ j' `/ f# [% P! K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. g( C' S  y& z
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., W: s! Q' c7 S8 J) ~5 u8 ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: G+ x, M( n% @7 H/ D$ x3 Y2 |6 n  G

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: V6 {: U& `/ H; i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& ~% i  k( K& o% n/ R% h' d5 S
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why?
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1 U+ ]5 f/ b0 Z! D- Y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% X; a/ j/ R8 W- V! d" \

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, h& I* i9 ?2 [* h* ]In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  t- B6 D" W8 W7 H0 F
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 _0 b3 n: L5 A( l) IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 p- q/ z( {$ U: g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. K7 d% G5 @/ z! M; B, N

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. |8 G) c4 K5 ]& ]3 Z
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yes, that's the point.

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