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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

; h% `0 t: C* r5 V5 abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 M5 W& G/ o3 T2 U; U# ~% @" h

  S$ y' t: X# A5 l. y% o# c% Pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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; p5 ~5 ?* {4 ~1 T; X0 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( z9 n, f% j8 G7 J3 Y& {* _, R, ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ z) I) g+ z* N: v2 \0 ?! C' [

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># m. _' K! w" [. U* O

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  C2 F/ M! u( {- R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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2 ?1 y" U) N4 k; k他比孔明更偉大

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1 N! K) M! {+ [2 i5 R: qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; z. |" Z, ~! D& {: S0 V
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1 n1 K) j7 j. {$ v, KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 }  x3 @2 f3 E/ y5 J8 z; m$ D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 j- t2 R5 D0 @) O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......