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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 q. u# O+ ]2 D
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: V  b* J, ?, H) S! m" q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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4 a! `4 f$ `/ P  u. ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ [# h5 C( O$ Z. t2 m' V; i

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 f6 T( S* F0 A7 I6 i8 M. D/ _
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 Z0 N3 k) D3 A3 M  {) V+ @3 G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 [5 u5 q* [0 D4 {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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* P  ?* B" t! ]$ ?7 i  H% ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 Q/ k7 S6 _/ J/ P, e+ [1 B

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3 r' V) u9 Z) ^6 UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: X2 C; g8 \. X6 m
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yes, that's the point.

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