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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

  S( p% v5 S5 V8 P/ j2 |0 ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- @) b3 A: C# k0 O. w4 E- o" w

' I: j/ \9 T/ O, Q+ mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- h8 `4 h+ k# c2 n- X) f5 v; ^

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& f! o7 ^- `4 t: {" J# \2 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 p! _7 ~4 i* |8 uwhy?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 F( r. z* i5 ^2 q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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* M: {. j: I' M. v/ m7 N打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% ^) [0 o1 |: E. }+ g& C7 n$ t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 }8 K. M2 U( h5 \

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他比孔明更偉大

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  r2 Q& s1 |" t& R: N6 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% f- V; B+ F) e& x' j+ j

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# Z. J  M5 W+ a( r* XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ s/ K5 e0 T  M! _. N" ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: \& F5 |# Z& a, w0 B4 Y5 ^
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

0 @5 W+ \0 {7 W% s: X, _& S4 Dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 M/ X/ W# c' `2 F* K3 j. `
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......