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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

! D/ F$ W4 y0 c- \! ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 F# u; C9 T1 G# F2 [8 B* w# m
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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# E1 B7 a) l* R" x& G8 n+ hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 B4 e! {' W: W1 c9 ~9 l. Q0 x
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# n/ H$ t  e7 L/ A; iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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) r/ {- Y. T( ^9 m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 `& c/ R, J! ]6 j) |3 s  l
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" j& v& H( P$ i  \5 k0 f) d# c  W

. p1 O2 w" _& v, v' s8 C3 Q- j軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 l. z8 ~2 m- i7 h

9 z3 \3 t$ `8 a打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ z- T* @2 B) Q7 w. s7 a& AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 V! x) d, f% z; M% s$ @9 TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 n. o9 J6 b, x' {
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1 E8 V% r  J7 iAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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