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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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" ^& |1 N* ]' R( A2 E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 m3 z& R0 W( m" F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 c* S, f6 C* K* V3 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  s2 x' H2 }1 o, r+ O/ e
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& i& v1 }  @: w! u2 r! W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus! l7 c9 r5 j+ y( f* f$ u( ?

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/ t* F/ M* r- s( _$ V& {打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; U% F4 U. Q) x% v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' J1 I2 s1 T& LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  B4 J( W5 B8 f2 r7 WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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# r( F  N% {+ n, p" vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 N6 z: m& ]3 U4 B5 u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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