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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 p# K# ^) }; D$ V$ p" p6 Q

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 }# T# c4 G2 g- A9 Y3 H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 s7 _' o  Y5 X' k8 N
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) g. f- ?9 }% y0 @9 G4 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( e% C$ f* \- B

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* j% Z9 Q& _5 x0 y2 O) u' T9 _其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: K3 N# R* W& {; o) B( k

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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0 g8 M4 E3 \, q% a3 e) q9 P5 K$ A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 j- D# N4 j- }5 ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 Y0 g" k( N5 e, X  o  D. B/ a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 c4 N6 X  a% F* U' e

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6 O. p! H! J. y) |0 d* g# ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  W. m* _: F! ?; t$ t3 r+ EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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$ M& j( d& n) Byes, that's the point.

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