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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" b9 ]4 L# N# u+ b) f0 J
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8 t* m" ?! ^( r+ W! ?. ]/ e5 o智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 g/ l, o% X6 k2 L5 t* g9 wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., S  Q0 U- G* K: @$ f  j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) C( o, U$ N' Z5 P
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5 o% L/ j8 E7 Z, P& yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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1 `8 k# b) i. |' }why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 T. G. w0 O* ~: ]+ R

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( v8 [2 _: G4 B4 w* x打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! o) h  ?1 C1 a6 z& |6 V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. ?0 _: s- d+ ~( {% h9 v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  r: V, C+ U: a" J4 \5 f
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4 k; a( \; C7 A& U- A# J) q  A8 kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, F, J: [3 X# o& p1 ^1 M

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. P! J# K& m! o& Y% e+ ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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: v$ P6 Z2 q! h! C" _$ gyes, that's the point.

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# U. |4 e' O3 r; q4 F. N8 ]8 @( q0 M陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......