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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* N7 L: C  w- C: j% R+ Z# {9 ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 u: x$ P7 F5 B1 Y( J5 ~0 i; \

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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5 s/ N% B/ o6 \8 q3 o. J! d9 i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->2 C5 f5 ^  I* c( [

3 K) J6 M+ }% ]軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' p) V# H, ]+ |* ?/ m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ D5 G3 G+ P5 g' p8 x5 I- T他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 T2 ?' o* f' S5 s4 K! A& M6 ]. M; N/ A
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: ^* r4 k2 Y( J# p4 {8 A/ E/ X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 V7 A9 z+ `& k* a: x: B6 Dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......