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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 _8 l) Q+ _8 O+ l7 F+ B" k

5 [1 g7 v/ [$ n' r  q. V1 ~2 Zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 ^8 I$ A9 v. ~  r% L8 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 G& ^: O, t5 \/ p1 I
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, m) E2 D: O# j1 m1 S1 B/ UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" @9 _$ j; t3 s! m0 c: l/ H& D

! B. l+ J1 A& O* ~; V) K' F$ @0 r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 S! C! {1 q+ s
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; m" W+ c& J3 ]5 ?2 Y0 W" F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. U' ?+ ^' o5 i# G( _7 c6 m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 y& g4 S, I& D- r
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1 Y6 N' P- J9 r. e. i# }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ f& l9 V. m4 F- [
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ e6 G5 V; u# N8 P- O7 b9 K
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 N/ z/ I4 ]" A" c; O! x
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yes, that's the point.

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