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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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9 L1 _- |1 H) u" _, m; X* E' @+ W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 W- J& t6 X: q9 a

& `+ P. K' X; p& q! e$ V3 ?but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( l2 Y4 K2 ~" i
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# s6 l2 y8 q/ @/ r+ e; [4 D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 r" d( }( }9 _* i, o

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see #22 Thus! e/ y! J/ t" r& d) F
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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7 [( I5 j+ R& W: u! X. B5 x軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 W8 v3 c6 f( s/ \, g

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( r; x8 ?% ~4 b1 }& S% y( t) }8 TIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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0 D- e, u9 p7 p; t7 e& T3 l1 F7 f他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  s# w4 P. u, ~: Y; h# R
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1 [# J: o3 l8 |/ s6 W2 v" qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 v. f# X+ m9 m

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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) K5 A- h* ?' t( X' O' o/ o陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......