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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 r* M* J3 I1 x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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/ {9 z8 g! a7 KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- D; K5 V' W+ C, \6 E

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., l7 a% _6 e# e& n4 {$ R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# L4 W7 ?: ?& W4 yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; D- i2 c- I, d0 V$ g

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( t5 Y0 ]5 G  s( O+ ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 m& \: M! |, k1 y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......