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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 H6 p: C. t+ k7 k& N1 p

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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8 @9 F5 D  s# h" r1 `* ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! e+ y0 P% D4 ^, D4 a$ fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 y3 o* y( u/ u- M4 a+ y2 t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:7 @7 t" @' |7 |1 y$ h3 L
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& I7 q3 v& l- S7 ~# {- S6 Q5 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* m: O$ X: m) r6 ]& u
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& q% C0 h* W: t

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- T( ]8 O! b: K0 ]& v+ O

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 R, X/ I# X( x% Y2 O6 C5 vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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$ z6 |: \9 }# I' \& r+ M5 y他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  G8 Y: R, j) n' E# [* q  x/ w

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' R2 n2 s# \! s! YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ M; D& n& }6 ^6 `# Y2 X) L" p
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) z. O; U5 f" l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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/ }* {9 s# W* E6 m$ [% T1 Yyes, that's the point.

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