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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# G% H: U4 Q- p1 y3 e

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8 F" [$ Q9 y1 T7 z* r3 ]but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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1 _7 N8 r5 k( vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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7 {, t3 O" A: c5 D' P6 D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus, {+ N' m: X  I5 {
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 V/ n8 p0 K# u, g$ e# w軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( L. `/ ]& ?9 q政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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% G6 L6 ?  Y  t" q* k& z9 E3 ^& K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 `9 J0 y/ H0 ?2 W5 D- b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% g9 J' s& i5 b5 V% S6 }: eIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 f$ T/ x1 q; G# b$ M) [
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 e" x& X2 h# [5 @; F1 d- D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ ?2 O2 I7 E  M6 c- x1 s

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/ g' v: |  q1 T% ]# A- \+ _/ }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 G* |" B; ?  {# e

; P% `. W) L% Z( a& B5 h8 yyes, that's the point.

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