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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 {7 @! j1 {9 d( e. Z7 B7 f" `3 x
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! p  H, r+ Q, t. u! mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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8 G+ }4 M- [9 H4 S  y1 T2 T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus( O/ K: O0 Q+ o3 q. P  w$ z
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->" v& T, F, N1 T' s

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.+ d  \( C2 m" P9 R" P3 k% d5 W7 B

" m) q5 W! Y$ \. C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮." O' B& L+ C5 W

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 O9 q8 q' r0 E2 Y" Y3 SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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* ?4 E/ o% j1 ^9 P9 H+ ]2 dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 y/ n* [: s, a! P% r( W* L5 a
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, Y6 _1 `9 U' \- _$ K6 z6 r+ zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ m- R% H, r8 \& Q3 I: n" b' V/ n: D

1 q( x/ \+ N1 u7 n6 {, n7 Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......