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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 D7 S2 r( I9 b. M! y8 ?% D6 X

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ W) l! O' E" I& U" |5 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" i0 s3 o$ W6 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 K: t* J# U8 R2 B  B
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 h5 ]& a9 L5 j- P2 J. S& c1 _智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' Z6 C$ c# v8 D" ~3 \
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' ~' R3 y7 v& O4 U
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: [) P% F, E) }) N% |- d, v" \. A* d打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 s" L( k. }. s& f% U. y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 l- ]0 q6 `0 C( Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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/ j) D# [( B4 DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( a  `3 j5 ~/ [9 c. {. J9 [

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ D2 X9 N1 |' D  N; j
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......