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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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+ W3 y' `2 s0 w- a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# v7 N* q0 z0 _- }+ W6 S- ^0 o9 ^+ G2 g

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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" {2 {0 `2 \$ _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 v7 t7 N, H' {& H( J) ^% Y/ \

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1 W+ u! G: p7 r" a, L" G7 Ywhy?
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# p* q1 |+ d* f$ j9 _; `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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+ _: _0 F! W9 c# ]' `see #22 Thus
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- K- B/ m$ [/ R: ?9 f智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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+ Z2 H0 o+ f4 h6 _0 c. P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' e: G& L# I) O5 z; l% D0 o6 u# y$ \
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- \( O7 a. h* X  d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* Q+ ]  s( D# a) s7 m+ B8 c
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:; ^" o7 v4 E$ U' I, X

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; ?5 U  ]: Q6 k4 X5 r: bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. m6 j# w. j9 f' N5 H  I1 D
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( z" w, f" g0 x- h; l& h1 M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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' D' h0 S" a2 Z* Y9 ayes, that's the point.

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