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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  H" q, M" d% f1 cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 N) @6 a$ w/ V1 W- vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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- G+ W! T, q; V- p% H# v" h8 v6 k  ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 H8 n& R" I6 A; d智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; P& z, m" p7 y0 b2 M" `1 }

6 a' W7 D# e0 G! F軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 Y+ m! J/ K- Q1 }9 T

3 z1 J% j# o, n4 ~  I9 i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. M( }( j) c. |+ ?) {; e0 Q$ k9 U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( z. d6 f# ]; F( G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' a% T0 M& Z% m  F8 h8 C( Y- K$ U

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! J, K) x6 _' QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% ~) L" Q; R0 @" R2 e

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! l* A1 Z8 d6 xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 N9 r5 r2 K) P/ t; H+ y" |6 t
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2 L* B" h4 |- d- I+ H) B他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......