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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) N0 Z0 {- T$ ~# H" J4 X' y6 c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, d- U3 u1 f, o/ B! E+ {" d
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 [" j4 X. |# ]4 L

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' b5 R0 |6 l$ K1 ]3 l4 `" k& `/ m

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 D1 y# K) o4 H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; K8 B  Q0 w8 l3 k
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 J1 o; e) x4 _& Q" w7 a) c
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+ {" P8 J8 f) J& g$ `, N, b0 xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. N2 q% E, u7 t0 A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 m" p5 K1 b1 C# z6 B, t  ?+ ~6 g

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( H& Q8 g* |- R4 i+ K4 Z

/ F% E! Z6 h+ W9 wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......