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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- C$ g+ s5 M5 o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ c7 h! E+ `8 n2 JBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., a0 }/ d2 A' u; ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# r( Y8 R* [7 T

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$ Z! ^* a- T( E! }But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  b& H$ L3 z/ Y/ E/ ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus/ g6 ?; ~% V2 ^  Z, O5 @8 \
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ u6 P+ J+ W9 p8 `) C) k  @
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ e& k7 r1 s- [: M+ f) [0 {# S0 G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" x1 \4 Y4 J2 I, ~$ f/ ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( y* U3 v6 e) d, L4 |3 u& |% y! e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" v$ I  i1 b4 F/ c1 o
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......