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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 J) q" T3 I' V5 T1 o

0 C4 C6 V( J+ l8 g. \but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) g, j. y5 ~& U) W6 k" _$ o) a7 V, g7 L+ z

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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9 _$ m8 {9 y' c( ~- S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! n% z/ q8 S$ Y7 i' S  Z9 [

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why?
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% }% J5 B6 l$ y. c  c0 k' {% c" ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( C7 J6 ?/ `& a$ ^
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 W) M: k5 k! Q+ d* L  K$ j

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" u2 V% t  n2 W8 w8 `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- \& G5 R5 h# _, T3 J9 z" F/ MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( h4 X4 ~, J7 L8 a) Z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ t& y5 D4 s: U9 b
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......