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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 A4 |( x; }0 @- D3 }' |' v0 v, t, ^3 `
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! h2 N! P$ R+ p7 ^0 Q! PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' v" j* N9 S- E: `# v0 o% x1 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 F& W7 m4 o$ |5 m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  e4 X2 ~# z  v9 P3 B* i6 E  `
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 J/ {8 B( X9 H1 `8 [" L- t5 `+ c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& _- _4 ]3 Q4 P- B/ l) m# ^2 C  w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 U4 r( @: p; V/ d. G) b
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& p  G1 r: }5 v9 j+ z+ C( @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% M9 |9 b6 E2 i3 I7 x6 `/ Z
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yes, that's the point.

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