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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

/ i( G( {8 f+ @# x1 Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 N7 V/ a' r; C; R$ k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( e; n# K& }% G/ I* w; r3 bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 c7 f- I4 g+ p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ _, q& ?2 X$ q$ A

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1 o, f: k& D: Z% [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.! p1 ^+ ~2 V4 m# j5 c

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, \) p# z  j# H) a% ~- H( ^
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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  S8 M% j% v$ z9 B7 O0 M8 kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 Z3 Y" m+ m3 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# W  U6 U  J. y! s: Y+ r& e3 E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 l2 u4 d9 R' P; s

* @7 {0 U" S" {yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......