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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 R$ g$ g8 F: `
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 w2 V+ M( f+ g& }# V& c) Q3 HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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5 ]* U! A6 I% |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- w1 N3 X0 M6 v/ A7 U# c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' I( R4 |" k2 G, l- |
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7 z/ O6 M8 f7 a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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/ Q7 U0 t6 g9 E; m6 t% }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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+ U3 i; f# M& j, ^/ X. |, M, i政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; S, [6 _1 H  `6 J

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 j6 ^' Y* \& h0 s5 b3 C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, k  F  v( H# R) J1 k+ |8 f& x2 y  \
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他比孔明更偉大

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# A: d$ z! Z' K* T" PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 q) G4 K1 {' Q0 ^4 b' rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: g' G$ _8 b' n! R2 N* Y' i# p

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$ }) ~, T  @. E7 b7 f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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. T5 r: n/ v9 l7 g6 u6 r陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......