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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 w- e2 ?# {0 u* Q1 j! G
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 l+ D- ^: W6 a/ F" v- ]! |* v7 C5 sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 p" ^; f. c  I4 |( Q4 b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: E" }! N* G. X2 ~, Y5 A" PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 o6 I: c" p3 W- W* Z2 n, z* {0 l

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 k9 h3 m( O+ J- l5 h9 m智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) ]+ z( p, i& C0 h# Y; v% V/ E
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ @# t% k7 w; h+ ]

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# W0 m, F0 l2 i" b  ^0 O7 UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! X; g2 s2 R/ E5 x7 E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ [( X, x% o! Y

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: {( |; v4 @+ u# x2 t. LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......