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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:3 A% j3 K' T# x' d" V) }" z' N6 D
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) H- z! D& q% d: n: a" bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ i" r& F5 l" A9 _/ cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 W2 k& y3 Z2 o! ~2 N# k$ \# N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- ?7 K7 t! d/ O7 u; m. f

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 V% x6 h) ?% c8 f% {: r
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 i* G# e5 D  d* O% x+ {

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) H$ Y1 x$ T& Y/ x) }0 B3 r1 U% @8 ]% YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ j  e* T4 A1 F; g# YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

1 J+ y$ N2 W5 Z$ `. Jyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:0 @6 Y+ q5 m2 H: e% D
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......