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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) c4 k! v' e: O2 Q+ @% H5 f* W
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( F. j* p' W1 U8 N

1 B. @& c9 \' A6 Cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ k# ^6 i/ p9 U/ mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 n' }2 Q# y' l# f

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why?
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! u8 a4 N) @( `% g* U! m6 D/ T$ f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 g. N2 D( r& P

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 A/ c& Z7 x# s, ]1 M
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# H: [. o: @5 m' f3 [. b$ r. D6 J
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ z# q, E: A4 p, L  O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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. w- [9 a, q! \' g8 VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" l$ m5 }6 U/ C2 C& N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 G+ V* X  o6 v! [8 X9 s1 j% t3 e

( \3 A# h7 Q$ `2 o! z9 d" nyes, that's the point.

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