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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ n! O  N# v2 w, A

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:- P1 {8 {  c5 G/ n; I6 `* b

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' n. ~- P! o* i
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* `$ H& W: Y( u5 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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$ [* ~" A1 A- ?6 H其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 V; B0 [/ I7 |  X! r6 F. I1 w
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# s" k3 @$ z& a) }$ a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 u& Q' o3 R% w% [" V, c' W$ \

1 B% D, Z# B$ @0 x) q) t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 g( q; T# ^; f' u) N* T% M

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 Q5 I6 K, o9 Y" C7 B( ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& H" Y  P" _+ U( Y; l% Y1 G3 d

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! S9 b7 d# \# J6 N' lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% {. v2 [8 ]( }1 T% x

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! C2 f- N5 m0 t5 k/ f. H# F$ mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* a( y+ J+ R' f2 V! x' d

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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1 s' o, P* I% t" d9 {& z- q2 @3 Oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......