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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! ^% i+ t! X  J6 |
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 H' a- T# W8 f/ g5 G4 h

3 Q$ E5 v2 R# ?- u. V+ lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ o$ g. r) g. N0 g( HBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' s5 b/ B+ ?7 n6 o  i' Y

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% q4 b4 @5 c4 Y0 f* S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ F, b4 W0 c# N
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. Y* S8 S6 g$ C" o+ m6 C& V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! C, b5 r$ {7 V- L+ x- AIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:3 \3 _" Q/ W( T% }( a* B( Z
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ d. f4 U' o. Y% t4 Z5 b
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 t5 R' f9 ^- {3 `- ]! G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' t; c! n/ Z" A( G' Z

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......