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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 ~, L$ M/ O% W. W0 d

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:: e, ?4 j7 ?/ K2 ^# x7 @7 @
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: G& h  t7 ~6 w* h$ X& O' n& ^1 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( S2 j; z, t9 `. U& s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 ~1 l: \5 ?' ]& g6 |In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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& f" e8 L+ N4 I: |% r& cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 \8 Q8 N5 E8 {' {- _+ h, ^" m
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- x! p& m+ ?3 l, ~

1 n1 H) ?$ ?9 o# kyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......