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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 U0 U. ?: I5 O, C4 ~

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; ^& O4 E! h2 u% E5 P) \2 H; {8 a2 [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 q6 i3 ?5 ~( F; qbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 y2 B& Z, X- N/ v" UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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& ?; B9 l6 \3 U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& v: E" _  B2 [( n8 N# b
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. `1 j3 \- t; o# u* b7 U: v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 i( D( _- f" g4 `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 V0 |! `4 m& oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) }) _) K/ \' R$ D4 D! d
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他比孔明更偉大

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) R( ]5 B8 ^7 d; @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 H8 V! I7 e# K; m$ x+ GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, r4 c) [$ a9 a. _* K; L# O( H
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......