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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* D1 Z' L1 J+ b* N
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ M# y7 O1 r) y. s, K+ s  S

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 D; b+ ~5 ?& }1 N5 N6 f7 Y  v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 a' X: ~) ]9 Y/ Y
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 Y& ?# k7 ^' z( c& ]

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see #22 Thus
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& Q6 Z+ p' O- E# r* r- O0 f+ A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" U- V6 C/ v3 K, V9 O( t! D5 S
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 k# w) Y- W% J! N4 v& y& }; U
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 o- E% t/ r9 [" y  ~* B. ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 E9 n3 c% z2 U  v
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 O; u1 n* H7 B9 T

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他比孔明更偉大

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7 i  Q: i( v' r1 |. @. l9 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 a, X  ~7 S# W9 }

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- H: y7 h8 x2 I0 |( G$ DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 z/ D9 T- f2 z9 B4 u他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:) u# f4 ~+ h+ T# b

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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3 u) B9 |" H& E6 i; Oyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......