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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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  K3 o* g' T& k8 k+ P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' I% o+ ?4 f$ o2 H8 ?" `) ^( [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; L) u/ A3 C: t: l( ^5 ?
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& G8 J% Q. r# Z3 h+ x. L3 b
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0 q7 v. [2 @- ^其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus" o& d& s2 i/ y/ o( w5 t/ Y

# k0 \2 R* R. D智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.+ l4 G: v4 l# ]8 |, ]7 j5 R

" u. j* \0 V" R# N% W打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! z/ t* s- C% l9 jIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- y0 {3 N& Y5 l; I  g

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' S9 v  Q4 Z4 l  J9 Z( kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 Q6 s6 B: d% U/ z7 C4 p  ]+ L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: |$ e6 C6 ?7 u4 y  v

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