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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:3 H6 |6 K/ Y, l# D5 y- Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, r  R$ S; ~# U+ N! fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( z# P+ ?' g: ?: K4 u& [+ I4 ^+ \7 ?! N- XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ j1 ]. P! p! w# n* }
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus/ h# T( R! Z, _8 u; s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 W+ U0 [- k" B9 A( p" h+ [
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維9 e% p* L  i# ]7 [
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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  F" Y, J6 n$ V( C8 f( E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:' Q, R) Z) \! J5 ]. O0 B( w4 m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:; o" m" X) C  Z& ]4 G0 \3 m7 x
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ t! \8 ?/ B* O& K& o+ h1 @5 P4 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......