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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' x# T$ T/ T: X( O, O: A; |3 h8 N

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  E8 d/ i% b! W7 `& d- {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* M% }+ Z) ~6 D6 u) @# O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 X. L8 s4 W! F$ f3 R9 e7 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ c, O. a8 M" h: E

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. U! k) Q" V' L( @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' P' N( N! M! ?# K% Z; L4 j
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 s  Z) e( u: Z( S
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 ^0 L: ~# `; y, K8 N/ x: g2 D$ q) x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 e9 `+ h5 M" @( ^5 k" t& FIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 A+ U7 S8 M6 J( V7 G' h

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他比孔明更偉大

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+ a, N5 ?" O9 d1 N' G/ |; i2 XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& @2 x2 M; C; w5 _
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: ^/ _7 h; k2 `8 y; lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ M. D4 u; ~9 ?! ?$ v
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yes, that's the point.

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