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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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/ _/ e, i! S3 q8 n" X) ]) b8 q# Dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ \# F7 d+ g- ^, |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ D! u2 W( f% |) b$ @& @4 R" w
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' a! B2 f1 h  `! U' ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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- i* e7 U) L% g" O其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ K3 f- l. A' ]5 P/ y& k3 A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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' F2 X8 a  ?- L. Z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.* }/ b$ w+ f1 B' X0 J

/ Q) {+ O3 V7 h! `, B( C8 Z4 y9 f& E- g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 b6 R2 V7 {; j* o6 X0 B7 R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 C: A7 P/ H# B0 F  Z/ ~# j/ H- |/ L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ G( H! O) w; P4 {8 u2 Z

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( v4 J: A, p- c8 ^

2 S3 L0 ^; p( m2 z0 z) B$ j) h0 D3 hyes, that's the point.

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