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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' f9 w& I" [* t

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 e8 t6 u  T- ~/ eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* E& u/ _" S1 P6 O5 T

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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, L: F3 r1 M3 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 x* w. f: Z* i+ fsee #22 Thus
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' v$ H* ?+ C2 @4 w3 ?& o; A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 ?1 C% M9 G  E9 H- e* V: S

) A6 Y9 j4 z4 u  J0 L  J. e軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 ]5 v/ R( ^- O6 F: w$ N3 V+ b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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" _' T. D  A) d/ P1 C5 R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: w3 N0 i9 O  [* ~( |In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' c$ L3 o# W  f* LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# d) m+ z; {+ ?; d0 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......