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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 L1 H1 F7 g9 Z* f+ Y  h6 \
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0 a  `$ Q7 f: @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% K8 f/ G2 |( d0 M, C. eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; [5 w6 V: J" }- }( d2 H
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% Q- m/ t! K4 P) @7 a# o8 KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( ^* t6 L$ d* M- N
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$ S& k) V: j( X2 S" Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 V2 H: e" B9 L9 G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: |, H1 A, e8 Y. z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; \* }) T- Z% O5 V* l1 _In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: P8 w" [3 p& f4 c0 _

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 }, o3 j: X! P+ T+ k" T# L* i0 M$ t5 n
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. j) p2 ]. k' X' T( qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......