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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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9 Y7 j4 X5 R. ^  O智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* M# \) d9 l( r; a1 H
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 T0 s8 Q+ x5 \! ?! }: Q- d: F1 EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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! C! E" f, C4 Q5 I; k6 E$ [2 I% n) b4 r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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( R/ v5 g1 w) ]( I( h* S" l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 z) f3 g% ]6 C; m  w
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 X5 Q1 Y) c" c  N! D/ h

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; S0 Y3 n) \. d
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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  L5 w& V5 [& K) N5 b/ b4 K他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 J; `. Z- z; z/ o5 f
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" O7 V7 V) O" {

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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2 F3 y4 h! a3 ^" [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

/ \" S) g) Q6 f3 ]8 Iyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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