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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) p  H, H) _  m0 V
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( M9 A% B7 {1 k+ {2 x9 l& k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 F5 U6 ], Y3 H* H! {. w* wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ b$ W; N& }0 Z. ?% R1 g# r/ k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 x3 M  A( ?; S- l0 l& m

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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* F8 N' K( }6 H! h9 e( W  O軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' r' m4 k& _" D& {/ Q* D& F2 v1 X
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.  \4 x. I! C: ~+ \+ C/ }9 g9 m; f
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% U8 _/ o& |" p5 j3 n) q) RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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5 i8 {9 T( R0 G5 y2 U: ?他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  \2 o( E6 s2 ~& C. k5 x5 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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9 b" @! \9 z7 s6 e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......