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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" Z* i( N5 p, W

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., q4 A- S) z" l5 A* y9 l

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( K- N3 n7 N8 N
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% r7 ?* q* U9 v+ P+ Z0 X" qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! O3 g0 }3 m% l1 O; H% f

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+ a; ?- ]/ Q5 q) G4 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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  a6 c6 {3 l+ J$ R( Y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->) y" O. d( f$ \
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; ]8 m+ j5 x; h0 s, d2 z5 p7 I

: X% w7 F% Y+ x% e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., {- i! i7 v2 m
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 a4 v1 H3 S, O' b
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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. l* u! a8 ^  q$ S* R+ C- ]% o5 e- [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 V% a9 p" P7 e0 eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 Y+ W& E" l' y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 K7 i0 i6 z& ]
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yes, that's the point.

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