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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ a8 P4 G0 D" G

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, }6 L. J+ f0 g

# `2 E$ C6 L* Q( _8 tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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. R% a5 I+ e3 I; f8 M: d: F/ zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; X# B0 u. B0 O4 [/ e# q$ _0 {& p
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 X. l$ }5 G; j4 l# R3 M

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 D5 r2 W( _# g- V: [* k, X軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維0 E7 O$ M9 O8 G) }0 ?
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) s; O! f- K+ x& g  w* W

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  j! W" h5 h: ?2 @' ~4 O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 _/ \4 h& T0 _: I4 K6 d1 \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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& f: @( l  T' o6 \$ s9 DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" b0 n3 D" x% `! r. j9 d: E! h, d

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. a# _2 A3 Y% @: RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ M3 O( h/ `- c* l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  U9 [. ^# q0 }$ c- _  m7 L

: B8 O2 O* o* P/ `9 v! f" ?yes, that's the point.

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