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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( O1 ^" S0 [: D( w) c
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) }7 e: {  T+ l4 F" ^3 |9 W0 B

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  \& j% Z7 y9 i. H1 |0 J% BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 R$ k2 e; O% ~7 }$ H1 m8 }' eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->6 K8 Z3 J: i) E  ^. ]3 \0 N- Z

4 f7 m9 P: H2 K% `  S; g軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ {4 |1 B3 U$ P) N8 R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 G* H/ F) M4 `/ v2 E. p" _
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 T7 B, V0 ^" C7 w6 B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 d5 i9 b$ N) i6 [

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他比孔明更偉大

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& v! \" D6 A, ~; zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  `7 r( E. i: |1 w5 {+ Z+ S8 ]yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: s7 m( l9 L# _) w3 V0 i2 j
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yes, that's the point.

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