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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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9 N+ b- V1 T5 A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% A% F2 U; z4 d0 m

% W4 ^% i# u& D6 Gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: H3 L. u; O; n$ |: b1 R1 tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ r/ U1 L; F! ]" l" x  p& I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% A, ?. Y, M3 @( w0 K2 Q
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4 O2 e' [" \7 s+ f. o/ OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# w3 ~+ ]6 Q3 J1 k

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) ^& {# G) U3 _5 X* Nsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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4 W" [! r6 {% f軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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0 s5 k1 r/ ?# g1 Q9 v6 W+ G" N: m4 P政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- B$ q1 V  z$ H# y1 j! d
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- |8 g3 S$ H' m4 v9 g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( F. E0 t8 a6 U% C

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7 `8 R# u( E% @/ N) z他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: \! _. d! Z& l! W( T7 h) H$ A
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4 A0 y( k, r( Q$ B6 N: [- _% ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 v) e7 V; A2 A: U' H  G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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& j; B7 V" D$ e7 M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( e# {9 T' a4 a# H" i; I

8 x% ]- u, \  v% Fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......