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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; B" t/ U2 e& h7 M* [

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 w) ~1 q6 ?& |9 k8 B  wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  S. ^# J/ H8 D  y- k0 A8 K

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( m' B7 R/ `0 Y" p% V2 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  F: \; R: ]! s- q7 ~6 y4 O. G- ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 E. ^' B  r! ^! U; v
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see #22 Thus8 L% h* O. E* W, Z0 M

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% q- A, R4 S1 V! |$ L7 r  H3 N
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ G) q6 [! @) e* W9 B) B" v& U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  d! W2 s4 Z7 a
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- P& V! f4 m9 W( Y9 Y; s& sAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......