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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! s4 u; R, B( J+ A+ A+ B% X6 x8 h1 `
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) |- O8 z) E0 k) k) fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 P9 @6 C, c: c$ v: b7 k5 k. K) h

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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6 a) W8 i6 q) lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 h: e' j9 {$ p$ ?: t8 l
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6 i+ N0 t! L6 M8 r; H, X/ g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus* @* |% f% U7 s! i4 W

& ^! g( x: J- R4 g; P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; T% Q3 f; B$ f! T
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 L! Q* X5 D0 J9 @- a9 Z

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., L& k: ]" a; Z8 q. C0 T% |8 N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ S: o  }4 U* W2 ~, vIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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3 I  h0 \7 N# K9 m9 l+ \6 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  `) R) v1 e1 p
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- W5 ~# {( g. {* ?; Y& N3 GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 I: q* b% V( r- V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:" r8 G6 o0 U+ M1 t( o
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+ M+ C) ~/ {6 ^4 P, l0 @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: f6 k/ f& j1 l. ]% G
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......