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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 Z) i/ F$ ~7 QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( ^  s+ x3 d" m

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ Y( P, O- M( @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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* _' {3 I3 F3 L5 Z9 }' i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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0 ~$ ]4 n# I- P) I8 _/ @智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* B( j# K6 m( C; Z

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 [4 Z% R3 q: K) j& u! I  Z/ a- o  [& aIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( b. R/ k( W& S

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" Z: F& m! h: m2 Q6 S3 Q) n, w1 X) ~

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9 i0 \* K- M  ?  [9 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:+ z) W% U2 B6 n$ }
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......