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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 u# [$ P" m2 A) s; L
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 Q1 @! `, j! K  `' e' a

( q" I/ x% O- S! Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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! m7 F$ ]0 J0 ]" |' FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 ?8 o6 j+ U6 k. X) }+ J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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/ j! e+ W% I- g: s2 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 f# i5 @5 M3 g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 e; ^  A& j0 G( O軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& D4 e- m9 k7 x- y" c5 x# n
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 R9 ]  `. V! y

2 G3 v: a2 I- e7 K( P打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. f2 Y! b- o" p9 d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ p2 r! g# l' \7 H5 L4 V! j5 c4 rIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 N3 V. b# ^1 |2 _. u- Z9 i7 P

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/ V. V# |( D2 ~他比孔明更偉大

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  a; F7 _) L: d4 D( s/ qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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1 z& W) C$ q+ y: h$ K& hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! |* @, z9 x1 D: |: J6 z# M4 e
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' k- Z; @/ l+ U" w/ X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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