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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 U9 a/ g/ y6 p  Q( r  V$ p, @( Y
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 ?$ E3 k8 u3 N. V+ K" b

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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# K+ s2 ~! {1 g+ zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. f7 Q# {) h1 U' Q2 x* }

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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2 }1 u! b! g2 r  V0 y2 t. |, V$ U1 asee #22 Thus
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6 u2 p9 X+ |' N2 i' ~: k2 `, m0 I& p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% ~6 t' o) M5 M

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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/ R- {* J, Z. q  o( A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 \2 y# H% S& W# {9 t- ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% C0 K9 |, \4 d6 B  Q+ S& S

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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7 ^# R4 U7 \+ Y1 O6 w; G' Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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4 d1 H0 O+ P4 ~6 zyes, that's the point.

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