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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 l( D+ }- f6 R9 ~/ @

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 M1 ~9 h8 t* B& _; l- zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* X) J/ P0 k& U/ m! w, b
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# v1 {  d+ x* ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 s+ u+ E* l8 T2 s* U. V
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4 t6 Q+ @# v' ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) Q) `1 n! o& u) j& K
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% |1 Z  C: g7 {! F8 m% a
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.4 `* _2 g* D0 k* z: Y& u
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ ^6 M9 w6 K5 m8 n' Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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- w2 W" r7 p& t5 }. s& C( K! k, X8 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 U2 `# o. N  `+ ]

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9 R/ m3 l( ]( X, }. `8 o; WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( J8 Y; ^8 Q1 D- S4 s
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2 ~4 ]1 G7 e5 q% Q0 l+ ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 ]! C! ~9 f& G. |" B6 ~: ?# [
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......