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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( p& d6 _  _1 r! V
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' {" z, k; @1 {

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: O0 _" S1 S' Y: B; c6 {6 ^+ B

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  `7 E4 S5 N2 ^2 A智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 T( x# N. M8 w5 X6 n% E

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.. f; b# ?& V4 Q! j

8 p2 _, @7 d3 h  e! B3 u+ f打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* c0 P, V0 I- m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 _6 q0 V! F" E, U+ \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:- ^2 r9 ?. V$ q) _8 W" @9 b1 A- I

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4 v- U- V" g! h/ q( u  c& @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:. [1 w% ^0 v$ o# M; p
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" R' c. i2 O- m% @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: I  ?& }. ^! X( g6 D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& S) Z" S% I: `0 l, H' P* a; K+ x

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