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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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4 i$ H+ t. W& Q" g4 p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

7 ?$ g- S: k. y3 j% S5 F4 cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ a* y# E8 p" l
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 u9 }4 @2 q- QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- H3 y( K" h3 A% `; e  w) j; P
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 J  k( f7 ^' t6 H( W3 [see #22 Thus: W7 w0 C: z) l: b/ ~( a

. n) g) D4 ^4 u: O# L6 W) p( }2 B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 _* V8 {0 X: A% F! A, C. L. g

% \) {7 {, F9 I3 I軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- ]6 j" L3 P: J) W1 Q' L: X
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* G  T/ v' ^( m9 Z. X8 \# N) |2 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' g0 Y5 Y7 q, `; S2 uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 l3 U; k2 i8 u4 F
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4 N& {# f& ?2 W& f( k$ o8 g+ R他比孔明更偉大

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1 [$ |7 b& H0 Z# F5 tAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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; p6 D: f. w9 z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 S/ u8 L1 \  _5 l) [
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1 w, r! |. A% f* |% y6 D$ l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

$ n* P5 J7 L" n7 jyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 V: l8 N: ?' ~& u

: c- `2 z% }8 }3 B7 X; t' iyes, that's the point.

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9 ?4 U& k: r$ Q6 N: E: i3 i陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......