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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- a$ o1 q' y. L  ~+ }* _

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, W$ w5 l& p9 J: }* h
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- `. W- J  d" e7 I6 |! J  Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 n# ]0 \$ [. M6 ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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+ ^4 A* Q& q( X3 pwhy?
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/ ?& a. c- C1 h/ v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- [" e3 ~9 _  a

* c1 X$ ~. j) |軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' J$ s- ]. a3 v' L) I( J9 i

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 ~) O5 D7 o2 F/ ~' Q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:. F8 G3 d6 j+ d' L
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 W- q+ t* x6 L. I& Z; \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 @/ ~3 U" V: r- `1 r  q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:# Y' H1 Q) L( f5 s1 }$ J- i1 z% C# I! C6 o
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: z! }, t/ z5 h+ n. j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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3 z9 j% K1 Q+ T+ d陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......