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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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1 ~6 e- w" J, J  q- R5 I/ H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" J/ R# D9 g- ?7 A! K3 o
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& e2 }1 z! j' U3 A: VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! S( Y! t, i# E1 [5 U, P9 F
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  q# q- D  Y$ o  b9 d5 L. ^; a- i' ?
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9 s+ y$ z9 T% s& l( lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* L, f! b; R, N8 D# _* j智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維' t5 K$ [  _4 |

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' J2 u! g- A: G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  Y7 o: u9 C* ?7 {8 P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 h* z7 |9 P, K2 i: R+ kIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 X  _/ \/ G2 x5 \" F* z* q9 M

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他比孔明更偉大

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5 ]1 B! @: `. ?4 o. @2 YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 Q# {# J  N0 F) ^0 Y8 t

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, w; w5 i1 {9 m1 T

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:$ G) d. {% X  w2 S" S
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yes, that's the point.

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