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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 q. X% |1 r4 I9 }  X% V& o- G

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ m" B# z7 t5 F5 M4 N$ ]
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 E, k3 {1 G9 KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 h6 F! P& e- B4 P0 g8 G
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: j9 `  f8 y6 T" B! @

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why?
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6 a+ X* r3 }# M8 A) q" e  M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus! P, @. o! ]$ l, r
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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$ k2 G2 p4 U) X5 x, r打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.6 [4 g& y) l* N* z( |: a; O" ]$ a

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' n* e5 x4 T0 l% ], \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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: d- Y8 D+ a( G6 \0 U2 L" dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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* ?! _# e7 ~" j' @) X1 n; hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  ~# E9 X, L) e( ~7 A7 K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ F0 T8 p1 l0 d. i( z, }

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......