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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& T5 T# ~1 L7 {% I8 D; p- F& q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) A) Z) e% R+ t' U* Q! r; RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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! c3 N8 h& c" eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( o5 o8 M: y) D  H" b3 W& q* p& d
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.- ?1 _; n  @: Z& t: O( T  z0 ^
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  T; g' P% F  ?: f, F( H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 m6 w0 t. u3 {3 k6 h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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5 v& L1 `7 J- T$ O  u* e( VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! v  V: _9 m1 M! w# l

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 t" b" \4 G7 p9 {8 n2 |

; Q6 _  m+ I0 n4 tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......