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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 n4 I" f+ J$ K
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( s. f  R0 e) ?智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 ^3 L2 ~2 ?6 ?5 b) c7 ~: I' r$ y( E0 @! [
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- i& p3 R6 J* B* V; q" |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) l4 h1 N! g4 D8 v7 D) e

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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* ^5 \2 D; E( Q7 T* u, A, @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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6 N" ^/ {# I$ F. B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 S  _8 r4 N" J5 y: ]智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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+ U+ C# Y  I2 H9 f; B5 i/ Z; a) m& p0 ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# i) E3 t5 v% S" i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 {$ R6 Y, ~+ H! M, M- _
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( b4 g- F# F% {* ^0 e8 h9 c
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( L7 ^8 T8 |8 `/ J# U! r: l他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! R# Z& h* t( \, [6 {" m
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# S  n" ?3 |  Z/ O! IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% E: b7 r# l8 s0 `

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) J& ?% r# {: `' z# l! R他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 N; ^. e8 J% W4 t! X* u6 ?; n

9 y# N# o; _' k# d$ i0 Gyes, that's the point.

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' p) P$ z$ P5 {4 m3 j6 G陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......