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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 D; l/ U0 y" ?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" r. q- J  {" e& L" d# \0 Jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& l9 \, v. m5 A  A6 rBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! P! D9 H: t+ G! H3 P

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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/ h3 R# F* }" {% Y3 q( ]9 T" I# H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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& q& Y) {5 F8 M+ R) H軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) y  k* \% e! E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! |' g- ]* F3 L. m" t2 cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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* `* a+ K: @4 o: ^5 N/ ~Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ g3 [( B. z0 V& O) n
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3 @7 F. t- _1 _2 K0 G) R8 A8 Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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