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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! v3 \9 P! s  g; U9 j
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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0 M3 `6 V) D& C! }  L1 bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 w! P% p% J* x4 H6 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- p  {* k( R- u) @# C4 u' w% I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 N$ _% j2 G. B6 F5 i5 Z

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why?
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, y( {( H: M" D* ?- J, }1 {1 |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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4 a7 w5 V5 L$ {3 _8 Gsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  k% P  a+ K' G- o! z7 d3 `* _

' ~7 J9 D2 V" a; G軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 d  L/ E& a2 _$ xIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ e; h  e4 m  J+ F/ D* C

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 c# ?( O- p# z" C6 P& z6 H/ {6 g
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 Z8 N. H( |0 R4 m2 M2 k4 @. A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......