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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 P5 \8 p" J. N; Q. F% V$ B$ l% t+ C

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) s5 O0 @& J. aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* G' ~$ s9 v2 Q' M% U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 k: [  r) j2 k. |, w4 R& w2 F

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4 A6 Y+ p: _: U# e4 F9 o# CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 `: k7 G3 ]' s# t  l5 y/ i6 Msee #22 Thus; x( y* D& m1 z' n' B/ n
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 {- m( @2 r0 l  F4 c& |  X' G

4 d/ t9 e) R! s" b軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 g: g; a9 p/ C
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* t0 R/ z8 F8 S) L# L, u! {6 j) w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ A- F+ O% R$ e  a# g  u+ e
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( e& @6 @# q" p3 Z# n

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( C. N9 _  y$ x7 V* Y/ g

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 T) H: \; v6 w: L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 K  m( ?% _5 \+ b, ]) y
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......