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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 U+ {; B! {+ c) j7 l9 d3 s

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 u# C2 c) y' R% |; q

; B" S  w% u3 obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* C# `; B# h" G% XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% ]. w3 [6 z# b5 o8 g" e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% j7 W) l4 n' J1 m, m
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3 i5 I$ f! e' J: P: _% A( sBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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& f5 Y' }5 y: w, E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 {. I# I  k1 w  ]# E) c軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# Y- H6 s" I: D! f6 Y4 f. f) d& w; R

4 B- Y8 f3 H  e: w" V) V政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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; W& U! J% V! t+ `. m: C& w, X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
+ n. P! F0 Q  s, j% N; K7 ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' U+ K7 R& A: b1 N( [% m# |
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他比孔明更偉大

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5 r1 a4 a+ v, ?( a' ]+ ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% R( F7 M8 p4 u1 ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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* e6 k. P' D: t* o他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( C9 z' b" h% X

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! S' w& R5 x8 o3 j' t0 G, c7 l
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yes, that's the point.

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