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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 `+ j6 `$ Z: ]3 a  I$ y+ l' K

7 m5 w6 H) H0 r& N& L2 cbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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2 C2 @  ~% E5 r* i' Q4 r2 s6 `, L! T3 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* b- O$ Y  s" U5 Z) `: e- U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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* q9 z& u9 z9 o$ M! m" K- `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: h2 k0 a& M9 Y) X( C3 G- f

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: P# p4 A! X2 G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 X) I0 w1 @" u; I2 r3 S軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 T) W; H1 v' k5 k; X7 \& n7 z

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) M, D8 O" g; J$ w8 X+ N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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& U. A' t8 O0 A0 S# V: S* SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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+ e5 z6 Z1 \: }5 `/ RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 J2 K9 w3 r( I" f6 K; F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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* a: F5 {- u, X+ w+ h+ _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

2 c) ]! u: O% H. d  uyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: O) B6 E  B+ \1 F+ R: g
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yes, that's the point.

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