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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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1 @! Y" U; T4 ~& _4 ]/ p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 N3 y2 E2 y# n. w4 U# N

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ U) X5 `' C0 f6 F4 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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. P- w) I; }+ c8 n4 `% u6 F其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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  p- i+ q8 X2 |6 G5 J9 f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus4 q8 `4 j" _4 @+ D7 a, u

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8 c4 r3 K) o$ S$ [9 }; b( U* R. X軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! L9 `0 g: G: z+ u! k& W+ UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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7 a5 F+ g3 k% J  O他比孔明更偉大

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9 B) T( X* E, |6 zAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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' m0 D! g" _* t) v! s- `/ uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& e9 b' q# X" ?2 `7 X- L
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1 t. D2 I2 u2 C8 j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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1 q8 y2 c8 J; Y$ ?陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......