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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 Y" F) r& {. ?9 G6 O, L/ C6 C2 w

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 y# _  z8 B( g9 |: @5 C5 Lbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.* I$ A' K/ g# f+ J. T
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 g- ~/ ?9 d  tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. l: V* j4 V- f: Z2 Z# {

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: t; {8 C  Q7 f4 X4 u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus, G6 e2 y7 Y  y/ D; N

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ L3 k  b7 k: G( r0 f

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" `$ m6 _# |* o: K6 u$ H9 q2 @6 ?打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# |5 T! }: [( Y/ IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& q, k. ~- G* o8 I

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8 k; P* D5 ]' c. @, XAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 d9 F. ~# h% _/ e& a% m" M

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# H: y0 `  v  J* eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 D2 T; k+ D& ~+ a+ D/ h, ]
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; h0 V0 R; E2 A2 Z0 I1 j% v" ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- o  R/ r" M" ?8 l9 x7 \% }% V* q

+ @5 l$ A: O& J2 s" Z! d3 nyes, that's the point.

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