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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* ^4 D5 x- r! L8 V% g/ {& |, ]( d

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, B' H7 P! }2 |) a# r# ^智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ h% P. F; ?3 {2 A' i
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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% O  U- Z2 G6 s$ U  xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 e/ c) A3 ]6 l6 xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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! P+ o+ w% `1 A- o4 p其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" h# n# o; r& P/ e4 }$ V! \
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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- S4 _2 j/ ?9 a& y7 e. z# _; ?% G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# t  ~: m4 K. G( \! \2 }7 p# Y& g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 C2 i0 Y; ^# C; u, d! MIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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' f7 M, Q% X8 o5 P- y) q: e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 V4 q# y$ A. ^+ ?
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! Y; k( z5 E6 l2 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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+ P5 o% z0 s1 t+ l+ U他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  D9 y3 _  x; U, iyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 ?1 S9 Z1 |( Z) ~  z

4 F% h4 [9 }9 y. W" F+ ~+ I) k0 `yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......