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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 Z  N% B6 k, ~! M- U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 h) \# G. Q; l8 d1 f, y

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8 U1 N3 N5 G) n" C9 kBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& C( H3 n3 o8 a# H. s: w' c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 ?  j' V; |- {% a/ w0 F

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& |0 u4 ~$ Z$ z# m% F2 yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 Q) w$ y9 c$ {  _3 c4 H4 n
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ G* d& B0 d5 n# Q* v- \+ r& g  A3 `6 `  r

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ Z# b5 ~4 Z; O. _
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:4 Z: X- p' U, T, z

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; f. K/ C: B0 S5 e$ m# [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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5 ?! `* C) O  j& U9 _yes, that's the point.

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