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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 @! f6 v2 X! D! P6 A- y" U/ P

" R6 A9 z" v# D3 nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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. Q' n! f* ?: @. N6 O+ U, f其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 h  h# B# u6 b  F

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why?
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5 h% Y8 g$ H9 o  [" n: O1 J  H( f( X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 E# x& W  B9 r' h% Y: s3 Csee #22 Thus
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7 m; Z% T" E7 g& W4 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% b! M0 I1 m1 }3 S, \# h
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維+ u% h2 `8 ^7 y! y: @
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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4 Y5 P: ^/ E7 C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
% K0 A7 C) t4 R( \; yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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% S7 ?$ V0 t% m% ]* R3 B2 b他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 C4 F3 |6 C  ^, Y# SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( G5 j( r, w* U0 O8 g9 r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......