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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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  `' y0 r7 V) H" Q2 q( \9 y1 \* sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 U& u7 j! g4 z3 Y* G* t9 D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' I3 e4 c5 ]- [) A" b
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+ f4 T) B% a' {2 j; iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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8 c; v# n& p: {6 g; U& e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 @3 ?8 q# A  P" e3 U0 r1 e, B
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  l! V1 t3 \) `

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.) ]& K/ L$ t# P

; i; H& }7 K3 p; d; Z3 d6 R打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; ~& k" E! ]; m# z; V3 oIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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7 e+ i% [0 F( W! Z" h6 x0 W他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:+ J; q9 Z/ P8 Q# f9 ]2 x% W

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" x7 ^  q1 ^2 l( W. A% xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 a2 j. q9 u9 [8 W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 S9 D: @  r/ `
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......