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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 ?- y; N3 R& d* t- h6 c( A$ C
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 o. [, r8 h9 X4 x) z) [

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 \; p$ L# o- N  o' z" A% Y1 t0 y$ S

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) f8 y( S  U, d& `, Q

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ z# K$ r" t6 n) D( Z
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" y! e3 M$ B5 n& Y* @/ d9 L6 }; W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! ?3 n* i; {0 J% i( P& S4 A, e
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 R" N& x, y) C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* U$ h: [+ ^* d: W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:* `5 o, t: Y# D; C  S

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 T/ J2 C% S- c2 c
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, \6 V2 _) @: b9 U$ T) u

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% Z& A2 o! X$ P/ H' W. N0 }* S* m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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