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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; X% T+ W; B1 `9 a$ tBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( o% r$ g& @, [3 g  e

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 @/ K* Q0 Y. H& K: ~5 R

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; v7 r8 R/ [2 m" h; g# Y* m0 C: {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 P2 z2 M- I) V4 y8 o

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 W' [. p  {+ W
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:# y9 h1 D  e2 N- w9 C, P: m
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- z: V" M# l( X( _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# ?* j, D/ a3 r( B$ S2 U0 W) W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) {/ A0 G1 F; k) ^* ]3 a+ i. |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 T; z! U/ D# b7 E2 _

/ L8 D$ F- X# a' \7 vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......