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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 t  M6 A0 J2 `+ }6 l

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 g: L# N3 U% t5 B! G" h3 FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* D4 E: |: `: E! P5 D  G5 \6 t# n% z, \" x

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?+ h" _$ y! i* R- Q9 e% t

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 M9 w. f* j" K3 @- U; R8 l* [
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see #22 Thus( J+ w0 X3 P0 \+ Q9 u7 W0 G

) a% E9 F& m& `# v& `. j0 p$ S智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 h+ q& B/ ]( V/ q+ r+ I/ F

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  r0 j3 B" @% f7 A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; K7 V9 k2 {% N9 U
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! g) T7 `' j0 m' U5 ^4 Q  d. S1 x# a. x, C
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  p% E: H1 V& c4 Z2 ?  _, ^8 WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 L. I. ?) B: E4 P  K" f

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! f& i: z+ M: X  x2 h& K- m
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yes, that's the point.

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