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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, J6 ]  A& f5 f2 u( {

2 t+ ~, C" e$ y, c/ {but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 N% J1 @5 Q* ~2 G- TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% h6 c+ ~" N3 h7 ~4 a1 _' I/ D
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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: [8 @+ F, W% c" l2 Z' S2 Gsee #22 Thus. F( c$ I, D4 {1 P) z

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, A6 q, A5 l* l. Q2 V: O軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! N* s& |# Z$ M( O% M1 P7 |5 j- R. C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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* O# O* B* q0 q: e8 }他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& n. |" }: N! p9 x% \4 t. N

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$ U) E1 C/ H7 \" A" ^Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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; L, r& V8 ]- r: v% mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 [- C8 h9 z7 q# V3 N% P3 w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 f9 J# {9 J5 z

0 W  ?7 |7 U: J! x+ gyes, that's the point.

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& z( q. W: T. z) n  t1 x陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......