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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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+ @/ ?) I( x+ Tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% \2 Z! }8 n- M) B3 ~
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ _' w( O( T' E) e其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  _" A  Y2 I1 q6 f. U0 g% o1 _

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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5 G+ X& Y8 l2 G7 \2 e, t, b智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 U, [$ e2 @% y; e
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 o+ R; ^! Z, g1 k6 Q) ^In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 P4 n  b% s7 ]+ {/ z/ \

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% M% X/ I: e3 z$ V

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ F6 v/ \0 m9 O4 D

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7 V% P, R9 N8 Z/ U- x5 A( _( Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( |; ?+ q9 {9 v! \, K, T1 b

  {$ j/ A1 {6 w/ o9 {" z; Eyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......