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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 ^5 K6 q/ u. G

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# g. H& x4 |! h) }* P' b7 u

$ f. x) B" `% `  f  M; B/ ^  Z4 dbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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5 G+ W' M: u8 V: l2 DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: F% M- ?  |8 b4 q8 ~. Z" r4 y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* M( M9 ?' M" {# `* ~

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& d2 K$ K, b. G5 t# `$ q3 A9 [
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see #22 Thus: O1 v( u" ?, R( u! {

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* t% H2 m1 F2 g
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 b. |, G& n0 N7 `, q

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 q- V' v1 o  K& q
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 h4 {& d1 o2 |/ T! [  E

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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