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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( e4 C6 P! F- L6 U6 ]( T! Y* I3 W7 D
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 L2 {3 h, `7 h* }& I8 k/ ?+ v

& F4 g: d4 w9 hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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, y0 m1 a; `% N其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:2 Q: Q# v! g" ]8 M9 [
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 f* g3 I. Q6 _5 f" r" ?5 C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) \2 {4 N; ~3 g, w# d7 s! a7 B
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 \; A  M1 s. Y$ G

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' I( Q4 `/ v/ `. E6 N; }3 u4 N
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" p$ d& \0 e  p) @8 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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7 V; q' W% f- C7 e$ `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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% u/ c) a$ E1 k# c9 Q3 G- a( r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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