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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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; H4 @7 Y& z6 K; P1 d6 ?% t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) Q9 ]# A) |4 P6 p5 \  V

4 c2 W3 a- l4 w  i% tbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 k2 n. \0 d% D7 nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; A: Y: D3 L1 a$ h' N% n
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 ~0 a4 `1 Y$ C5 ~/ o

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$ f' z% Z5 j# V! q- g2 |0 Y5 cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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9 K; |( V% b& o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! Q* P4 ?; t1 n; y3 P
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維/ [1 K, I* o3 \! Q- i8 D# u

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  Z# ?, C4 _: y0 ]5 b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: L$ y6 n' o9 N- O% \1 Q  k' \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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) j  d3 l: ~' @2 d  v/ RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 s" O, h2 i0 |; `, ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

; V$ Q2 U/ G; R3 X- U0 _yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  v8 q1 q0 u" ]  n

6 E9 T: a0 V: G- D4 `+ \# H+ a2 Qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......