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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. L  K9 k& n' E
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' h9 _1 P, b; Q1 P7 \

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># H, J/ W* l. H- x) P' e- `  h

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 p! v+ G: I1 E2 s

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.* H6 u4 V4 f, a4 z) a
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  H" f( ^- _* n( C! C' M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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+ B# J7 J6 ^; xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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, W; p. {! h9 aAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 b( l5 ]8 l7 B. i4 j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; O6 J1 M4 I1 w1 Z
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......