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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:6 n0 c" i- S6 z4 q6 v% ?- Y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 P' T5 G# @" a6 }7 N/ V0 ], E8 \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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- ]/ l6 b) p# c3 ?% FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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: b1 ]2 l# _  S7 \( l6 \- p: K) Z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?5 @5 h' Y7 G: N) O2 F  Y7 i8 z

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ A  p, `8 Z+ N: J$ I( D
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( i. _; {! ]$ P- E# L0 n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:, d5 b' s" o7 {
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 S7 z1 h. x, I. w3 f: b. C: pAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, q5 Y' n5 O1 ]7 x# T

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:$ Z/ [+ @9 V& _4 w$ }7 o" K

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* m7 j7 l5 T0 A6 g8 q3 L他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 k' ^0 P2 d0 P/ ?yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......