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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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0 Q2 ^; A* O2 t+ `智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:4 Q  l2 q  w7 x3 u, i

. y, l- J, J6 \but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 B6 u- n3 {+ z8 x* T6 a3 {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 y! H% M4 [3 n& Q' }/ t
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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( q3 K# S$ V  n7 `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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3 {3 J- h0 A( d+ b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->- \8 L6 w5 }4 x! F- J! g

' F/ a$ h; j8 g" D( D. ^) ?" S; Z' I軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維3 \9 |* v4 W" J) a6 T- f5 d
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! S$ z& U7 g4 l0 O4 O2 f6 L# S

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. s7 i! o7 r5 Y/ o

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! }! n" a1 r' I* B3 x1 a2 M
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ {$ A+ ^0 E- \& ~% O. G1 u

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6 W: _9 d1 ~- ?% R$ y" t$ v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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, u8 m9 J# y1 X/ W& ]yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......