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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:' h1 l4 f) z) ?! H) y3 S
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/ ^' S* q9 R$ S- B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: w3 ~; o# w4 {! `8 y& ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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' O1 Q9 p& E8 L  d+ |But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 J( s! c& |  M' a; r# H, {9 r* f

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ |4 B, @9 b, m" v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. ^) H* I2 Q! }
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* `8 u2 F1 m! O/ e
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.' R% P3 \, k  i" ?& y# B" M

6 L2 n8 E$ b; }0 E. [7 j$ V* G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 M4 Q" F3 }/ v' R% m& XIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:4 b# Z/ G% L8 q( l# e9 a5 K6 @" a- _% F

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& {% t3 n( a- a% i, P$ g

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" t& ]5 \1 j& V8 Z) Z6 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 t2 [8 j& s, R2 ~) U6 J! T5 t他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; E2 k" u* R3 z* d3 _! @9 w. A& \
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9 g" E5 Z# h  i9 z  [- b他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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