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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 ~! z) M2 s9 o+ w0 }5 G% v

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 g+ Z1 M9 h' {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 w2 A/ M3 X8 E0 @$ y

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 _( s1 j3 D+ Z$ Z; D% `
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6 d8 W5 @) B0 }) _( h其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' n  j  G: o0 ?
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 Z: K; \5 I( |2 W( m

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, ^( X2 X- H7 |' f: \0 A. V打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! F6 Q% W/ ^. C! T! w7 w) G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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9 a% Y0 p9 ^! c3 D: R9 }4 Q( c3 q他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& Y  H  g6 B. D: k5 W( R
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& |+ }% A* C4 a3 U. v

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ R. ]( t$ {2 Q% j3 M7 i1 T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- e$ [6 d. j( F& |( R
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......