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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) d) p" t( V+ J1 ~' H- Q
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. y/ m; j' a9 Z0 P. G- ^) L5 o: q; h
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ }( d  U" h" [/ }  X9 {1 V

- {! @; h$ O: d$ i# v+ P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  Y3 C) A* W! Y3 c: _3 q

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# T6 k" f* `0 Z5 _# E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ B( O7 G! i2 a' p9 {

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ o5 g: I0 x9 c0 H. p9 m  ^5 W' k$ kIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( Q/ l' g2 \( S' y" P
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他比孔明更偉大

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6 z! H1 R' X, w+ G3 @- {5 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! F% M" {( O5 J' a7 LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 k( Y& g7 i$ I- [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 i7 X; m% ]) E5 ]: g+ k

* ?/ H. V" B! v4 G$ b7 Ayes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......