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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* A' F' t& j  f5 D4 \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  p# R5 [; J6 q2 u
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 h- N5 B: @$ H9 h- [" @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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4 \) @$ n4 w$ V, @; [) f5 |+ SBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:% X& ]% U+ I' G, ^2 v3 J

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 a4 ^; B% Z$ f; k) Q

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: n) |; M. y% A
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  y  y9 b4 d) i( G
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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7 R* F0 a3 H8 h8 `" X7 X0 p5 S" MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, J1 Z. `- c& a  R% g6 X4 k
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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; q# ~8 H/ r! k. b) N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......