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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 V2 ^) z' H; E# @

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' D- d/ s7 H7 S+ U) B
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: C" S" E* B: V/ A8 M
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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$ S9 z( [  Y& z+ {" _) W; v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 ]* \0 F! g7 ]+ \6 L* F* J
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1 ?7 Y) P! s9 M其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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  \1 x, u4 R  ~' k軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; I4 J+ q( o, l, @' V

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, k0 x3 a# @7 lIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ B6 l: Y& ^( x( K- ^$ t9 b6 E
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他比孔明更偉大

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( o6 h9 V( L% ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 ^. M4 f+ }, v) E' Y/ g* J9 c9 TAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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/ F$ J0 s( j" j& r; ^yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......