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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:8 }" x  c# ^, @
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. a, }" w  X: C4 x
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 X; V9 G* j+ f& ?& }

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: r! y. k: w8 d& O/ z! U, j. }* N8 F- r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?/ X; }* Y0 g/ M9 g0 @+ k* d

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:$ e+ d- N' {. s( F% Y; ?

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># y! I' j" f  P/ T$ @: \3 m
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* D9 z2 b8 L0 g" X3 ^
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.2 W6 M! s- v! j4 j( b
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.( C. a: Z, d" N( V/ [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 \3 }0 b! \! n- X他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......