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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" r# ]3 {. H% m/ y  D8 _

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' [( n' ]- H/ y5 q& D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 B  l/ r/ \/ X9 G/ z' L1 W$ xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 ^, j, ]4 K1 f) {& P! y, L

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 f  K" l6 Y: k5 j. Y1 X+ C
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 G1 Z5 T3 Y! c  j2 T
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 n- V# U- ~  P% W  s5 G4 g: X* U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 d% `& D1 {0 p, N7 t" }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 m' J5 [2 U0 N8 }6 {4 m/ u4 n
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他比孔明更偉大

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4 Q) Z( @: f: VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! Z0 D* j( e: C; G' jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! u% K/ |4 N" u8 g7 o9 O
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......