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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ o9 l5 ?  E3 J- t: I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ W9 X$ K! P. Z2 @4 O, |1 i( I

2 J% Y+ X: }/ Nbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 h  M4 G( p  s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 g' |/ }4 e5 G$ A- P  ^

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% L% I3 e9 \+ b. A4 |" @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 V" x9 O) h$ H7 B: T! i; f
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ C2 i/ `+ i* }/ p: Y, D
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- e' S/ P# K! x6 D7 W, Z; E
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 b" R2 c" e- w' ]0 u4 Y0 `& D打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:: D7 J  s& k8 a5 t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" F/ G1 [0 ]" e$ ^$ e: r

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 ~- [8 H$ Z* ]& q9 j# ?) C他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ Q9 t) r; ]: u+ d3 E# o) f/ q

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; T& j1 O/ R/ S, {, ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( S3 x7 t( Z, B' V" f1 F
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......