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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. t; ^' ], |* r

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 \6 Y1 @* \8 b) N
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:0 Q! q1 E% j, V
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 X  c7 {& k" o9 \( _  e7 y$ w( G0 U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->, W4 X0 i9 j# G

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* ^' B7 V7 v* M8 @& b1 }  G, UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 C9 |, T) K- I6 H, U/ q" X# L1 D
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他比孔明更偉大

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! _. z% M3 g! z1 ?Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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4 e( m% E) J4 w( |! r$ IAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. i) n9 Z/ o6 J4 P$ f

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5 r: ~, `8 u: C6 [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) H* Q1 K- j. r5 f1 C

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......