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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' I% \4 \  E. D3 H  x1 r, x" w; Q

- D; F5 p0 |/ H( V6 Y% hbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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( S( B6 N4 G5 s4 M2 _8 r4 hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( N2 A* i; `- U# o
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why?  W( o( U) w/ `7 ]& S# h
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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$ X9 B  y8 b, }2 x' P0 r3 k" Q智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ F, _9 U8 S$ N2 o- m

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 }% q( G6 }) C+ q8 ]
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 y" M2 V- ~0 \6 \1 nIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! @0 i. u0 s6 J) s8 i4 N  |8 M4 K

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  n6 d  ?/ u5 r4 I) S6 p- j* R
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yes, that's the point.

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