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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ J% Y) c0 n! [) L8 b) D# l

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 _( l! W, k% n0 H4 R
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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$ l2 B. G8 A& l2 \: N' {But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 g6 H7 F/ h3 w) p& ]) ?6 D, [- S% p

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 }! D$ a/ T; h6 @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 l- @+ n; S* V( q- D' K. Y
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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$ |' M( S: e' I" Y8 z5 T1 a軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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( \- E" j6 k2 y, D6 t" M政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 E; a) n" N3 ?; ?$ y- H. \1 N. dIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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5 d. R0 D  S8 f- M4 {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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/ |1 k* e$ J3 xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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# |  X6 ^. C% O" p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( {; ?6 y  w* l' f% v8 ]. R3 S8 I  g# K
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! ^, q4 h4 V+ K; j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......