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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, I7 K5 @. l0 D( P

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:% p* g$ Y, c" U+ \
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" _0 z0 S6 ^4 @- K2 t8 b其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?6 k2 s! I9 a3 v# W$ ?3 E* ?4 U# R
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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  u' q9 a- z3 v6 \: ?4 h) v5 ?智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->( z% Z) Y$ [. E
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.8 o2 B, ^, u  k& S. F7 t

1 f7 a. ?% t3 j  R0 \/ D$ ^打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 m. W, ^+ e( {# u+ q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 x! }% j7 e. B$ [  P  \
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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" K, P5 ?& F% u6 oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ }7 D2 R& V6 h: D% g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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1 }7 |5 ?# ^8 J4 i- {8 W: e' W5 t陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......