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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& n5 ?4 Q* |# ^1 N' a) G# g9 A
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; q5 f7 g$ G" M7 u( j3 T
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 _8 q1 s4 q8 eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ V3 x: p5 r6 Y+ g
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 K8 g9 [! l  N6 ^7 ~But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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7 _: q0 s! g8 G# R+ T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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7 C  y0 w& D$ @; o: msee #22 Thus) c0 A/ Z, ^9 l, g

& x9 f9 Z! C+ m/ {8 x8 A: n* n/ i智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., s6 c/ z6 Z5 r3 z4 ~* j  I
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# g0 f& e0 m) h8 @/ l0 w0 U# V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 T2 j  u5 L% M3 {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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, a2 O/ e- T/ _2 f他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 l* M9 H8 `+ h  N% S% k
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" ?9 S* S. w9 U! N8 D
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' k( D. W) M3 b6 l/ E/ _' W7 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ z  h$ L! `  w1 c" q6 G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, ?0 Q' B! ?4 l  i6 D8 p# h
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......