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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 b$ [8 b% n0 S/ i: R
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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) v9 Q( H, W7 r" Fbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( X, ^7 B$ {" `. N% J7 ~5 pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% R$ ]. g  r, A3 t9 q
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, W+ h. ^; M# d+ ^1 _- p  p

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 u; [5 T1 j; d; ]2 Q/ z6 k, M9 E
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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) R) U  P( |, d' s% h' b軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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6 {1 }. i( @0 r. Q  A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 t. J( Q: p7 a2 I' {/ [In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" l3 S4 z3 F& [; n" n: D
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# n. k6 S! t9 X: Z* Y" oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:& x. z0 I8 V# P  D7 b

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; E6 X' e2 Q0 FAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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/ h5 l+ P6 J. A# Y# X, x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 c/ _5 L. c. L  g& S, o9 _( f

& S0 a4 I- @7 ^- Q# _yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......