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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:7 h; u7 ~+ B; F5 r$ ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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2 _6 H0 k: o& Y; a3 B$ Pbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& h# k  n) ]7 u6 BBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.4 m8 D7 y' l- N) d2 m- i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 x/ [) b6 [& YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" r' V4 k" b4 J1 n! f
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  r0 [) r6 B( \
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 H" Y6 K& _2 s5 e4 |9 Z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) {  ]* T. H/ M- y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 T4 |! Y$ n: y2 ^. G1 a  ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ G( S( \# Q( f& L$ p. a) j& ?5 w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 O6 h" y, v! z- b8 g# o, G

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, q0 R: d  P) w! Z: L. g5 q7 N

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2 ?6 a  ~. g& _% i8 m( A# T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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