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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 A: H3 b' A5 ~* ^0 U. W0 g9 P1 N# y* k

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* s. a+ Z! T2 {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' ?! ]9 g8 m& n4 `- A
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.- G6 C: P. A; ?

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% x( l: G. X. N& K$ f$ E
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- l+ N  j# j) P( t$ ^* \" \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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4 J8 z% b. N! Z* J# y' V8 Y6 @8 A$ {( j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& C9 Y7 U& o$ s, [+ R8 C: N
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- [3 U5 W( d8 [+ ~4 U. T5 U其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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0 _0 u7 g7 x, D) F智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 b/ q7 r' U! N( _5 W4 ^2 L
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; D, d7 G2 `, Y* v( S

7 `4 s: f) v5 g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.' w. a1 r% F- d/ @

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! Y5 a5 W# {" F9 a3 BIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:( i  i' K$ P+ U; K

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他比孔明更偉大

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$ ]% s/ _. r' X8 y! p1 WAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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3 g0 A# |0 t6 w9 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 y! x. _2 A% l0 S( R9 U+ a! ^
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2 W$ d" H! L( V7 ^- W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 D6 k' O! a1 d* @8 R2 Lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......