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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 ^* b0 c0 _: o" q
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

2 P: }$ m4 {5 k5 h1 ~+ Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:# ?/ d0 X8 d9 g2 f

0 J' H. |9 G/ u/ u  r( I" `but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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: L- c+ l- g" j' jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- U3 ~- \2 F  n7 l

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 B5 }7 g4 v3 Q9 N7 g7 @! @7 j+ h; r其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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* ~: u: E, }& g; A) ^1 i. asee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->* o' a4 p- H3 Z

$ u  D' X! W. D3 d( u( i) n. ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! W6 K/ h7 \# m& EIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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9 j& ]2 \( \) M他比孔明更偉大

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9 T& x0 h" w4 Q  s8 h1 j) bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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& g6 [/ M: _6 l: D4 A/ V% ?( H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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/ _. ^: l$ Y- u6 Z1 ^, ]他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 E  ?/ _8 [: `

. v6 i7 h! [- l# l0 R, syes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......