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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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- A# N4 H1 w- L; ^( WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.9 o' f, L- k: ?3 J' X/ V" ?" r5 Q7 V

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- V/ g4 r- N0 U) z
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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  J; G* O; B) |) L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 A2 x- i0 H/ R
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: q" i: }( [+ p8 q2 S: j9 r! m
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& f; E0 H( ?  a0 K

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.9 f0 V/ b( h  _7 M) ?: ?
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 F/ P2 I' D5 X) Y& w# K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% D6 I  J: {- [5 b

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" J$ p; x) S3 Q6 U! P. DAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' v$ J$ u' M2 u& G0 g
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6 M) S4 C1 b* d% b0 k& V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

! E1 P! }' s$ T, gyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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