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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( W1 [$ H& I& m7 z9 l
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 D6 X) O+ O# G& T" ^. N

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2 B! H0 r# S; {- t& |) ?8 D. N# oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: p; ?# a: ~& xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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5 u" N+ B9 b! d# `  c* M: D+ n: z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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2 g/ s0 ]! T% Y6 Q軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& i3 ]* s% A, o% n: Z# {( Z
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:  ~# _" n! _5 N
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 y7 r7 ~# K! c* _* ?

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他比孔明更偉大

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0 A" }5 F  c/ H' ~5 H/ u5 d( {/ YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 u9 }, @7 O6 E1 x- m1 n# i
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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3 A, Y& p# r; {; g他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......