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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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: ]( b$ f% H. N( B: Sbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" g" H% g/ Y4 z8 {  Q
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 e) K' Z4 u9 H1 x+ r) Q9 G
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" p9 r% L- K- W8 J+ B2 B6 jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 e' |! _0 ?/ V& K5 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->' m) [* {; l2 g# H( Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
: @' z: G/ B2 g' i, B  F2 UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% Q7 r# z3 P* O; G$ \) V
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& V/ z, M+ ~) X0 F他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

9 |8 N2 r8 |( [0 n3 d" dyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:1 j. y# t0 S' e
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yes, that's the point.

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