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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& \) G2 p# p; q( n5 I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, `5 n4 S& K1 J( p* I  p3 R+ P1 i8 j

. p2 p$ M4 b; b7 }) bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 E! J6 M. B; @; `* T& dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ |& q# _" `' P! q0 n6 Q- o0 x

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 ^" y0 x* e  p1 S2 e/ C

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( W) `- Y! l, z
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why?
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1 e+ B9 @# o( u& ?8 t/ P  @其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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7 Q- j1 M6 o0 z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 o" _8 T% q7 |8 ?
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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* F/ i9 S' \. Z3 O# w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- }' _* _4 d! }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 ^/ r" t  c- T9 j
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8 |4 [; [; H/ f( K他比孔明更偉大

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4 \7 d- D5 w* R  V3 \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 {8 x" G9 G6 q4 L

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ h$ N7 X% A4 H  b8 {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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( q1 x0 i0 w) M! c$ D9 A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: a; J" Y9 J* o) T, w/ U) |5 G

1 q! n$ f+ H$ j; e* `2 \1 Wyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......