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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; V9 X, u9 r5 g4 Q0 y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ U+ _7 B" R; B( y; p5 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ b$ k- D. ?/ O0 u) |' h5 p
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: E8 w4 s# r, Z. L! \: ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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8 I. S" j. h8 Y2 v" o& ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus5 a8 |: `6 J5 |9 n: G  y
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 X  D4 s8 M; E/ w6 e+ Y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.7 L% s& v$ r) j! }& @) U4 J' [3 Z
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 i5 q( o# U* e8 E" B- C& B) u( uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, }" a/ |9 V& P$ j8 S
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% e- `  R) i, [* c! QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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" W7 A7 }9 g; e3 X, V% e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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. `7 y1 k; ~+ O* Hyes, that's the point.

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