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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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: O" q& m+ a( I6 w7 Z, gbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 ~8 c* W* ?9 K3 Y7 Y

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8 b6 L; r8 k- r" s, j- U2 n, nBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' M8 X7 X! A7 ~, D# w. U) e/ K
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) c- N; P; a: i其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus2 x; ~$ \: o% a5 J
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- B$ Y2 b1 h/ t' l5 D) |+ z* ]! i

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& d, i, x1 _; U- Z0 ^0 J
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:# J" w8 s* [  X2 b$ ~" L5 e

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他比孔明更偉大

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6 q+ ?4 `4 N  T  q& U2 g" YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  z# H! t0 E, PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  k' \* y! K' K! O9 l8 ^: P

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  }" I2 t6 f, J- m/ H3 |6 I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- h3 P% J1 ^" ^# X5 N- Q1 z
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yes, that's the point.

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