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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% s% f4 C* A# y2 Z/ W- ?" {6 ], {

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* k4 o- V/ H' N1 t( j- p$ V2 k# [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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& a/ \5 i% {. M# f" z/ FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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" b; @! w2 C* j2 H其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ R1 X6 W' P$ t! D+ R8 ^
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ \5 g2 R, O# k* u0 r& w
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.9 H" r3 ?0 W& f$ Z+ Q* f) t& Y' }& j/ V

4 S- P5 ~0 p) q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# n  p% ?3 |: ?% z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:( a( ]8 A% L; x5 C7 D% p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" l: f" o' j2 u2 B  t
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5 `5 x3 m8 V) VAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ k0 M0 T. [9 ~$ w& q, v4 `# x9 l' @

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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