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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:9 K: G6 w" a7 l
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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8 x9 w; m" @/ D9 R& O- {2 Obut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; C7 C& h0 G) {1 n8 G& F- z
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5 Z1 [; d2 O0 @4 L: m4 uBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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2 {8 g/ b. {7 a, C8 y1 c' d: hsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 ?! R5 u0 r" h# V9 |
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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* w7 E% o! _) R: `2 i打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:% Z2 Y( u  v- R  \8 B; w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! E- `+ ~7 i) _: y# ~+ l! I

, p7 j, g- d' F5 lyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......