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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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, |4 v4 `* S' d2 J0 J  V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" r, L+ a. B* b7 q0 [$ QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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1 C, l2 c( A9 c+ I/ H0 d. vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 b( X; O1 t% ewhy?
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+ }* V: Y0 \2 E& [0 {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?1 e4 l% P- _+ |7 A" O6 z6 b5 t5 g
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->; q" h/ V6 f! u  t; n' d, W
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維- T" u, P0 G  s7 D( ~- |, o
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: o8 O1 R1 ~/ X) ]+ _! ^) h6 p

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ m! e3 |% i3 U4 e8 F2 v

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 q" [3 y" P% i/ l* D
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) E- a1 @- q, q/ P+ e1 q% ^9 }

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他比孔明更偉大

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" D: I- y. P, k) v6 \6 {3 mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:% Q: C1 B7 V+ q% `
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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4 O4 s: ^$ m4 c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! M- k- v! e$ H, U

9 s- n  L) u% F( P8 Cyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......