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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:) j, E: L! E& R2 [6 F2 _

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.8 T7 Y- @" \; }5 X5 b& f  Z% g: t

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: ?3 ?/ X7 T5 @5 f  n
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# v0 m/ T# J9 S0 p; U  L/ CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 r  ?3 R  N9 t3 m* Q9 v; j

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why?
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( h5 M! A6 W, w# ~% ~: h, |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ N! X0 ^! z* C; K) f8 B
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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$ r  `, O0 B: R  T5 n6 w3 ~/ E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) }8 \+ e. X2 _/ b( P

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 g# {/ w) m0 s, H9 R9 p/ m7 D
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:! O/ A5 Q8 Y. o4 q: [+ e
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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. R( u- p1 h0 ~yes, that's the point.

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