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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:8 J# ]+ ]9 b& E1 E3 P$ G, L& n

( V9 G; z- Y+ Ybut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:6 g" i# e& L7 A" j# K1 y

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4 B  A% U) ?* v* M# cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?( }2 k  R# U' ^& P1 s6 \7 \  N# L

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( ~8 t$ Y% J9 A6 j

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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& j# M6 E5 O& ^5 z' K& `see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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& p3 n# }0 B8 m/ n8 x- K+ g軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維7 E$ v. I- j' z9 X! A

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7 q9 ~3 X: p9 A( P8 Q' \) B打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 j# d' d1 ~7 Y& ]) {/ u! u' ^
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 E7 z# |8 v+ I
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他比孔明更偉大

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0 @- r- S( k! JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:: }9 |( a. P  J" ^) G
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 a( m0 F' ~! d3 z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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  V# V) ?3 E* c# @! S8 o0 _5 j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; G( l! X* Q) G3 b6 H5 D" M1 l7 s; f5 T

9 ?& p, L! s& _9 I5 vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......