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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:$ t  G' ]  G* ~' x9 _

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 m; q# `- d0 g4 N) s" g  d4 H. k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* A: v1 T7 J  e5 F! CBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% ]. M) O* X) J3 o+ ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ Z, ]0 i1 C  G0 H% F. I, ~( G2 ?

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus: X% `3 n& v5 e

  J6 V! W9 ?) U+ a% c3 q. A; E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維( R9 E) Q* h8 C1 {$ q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.% F* A# z* @+ i9 {) j
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., [' r: {5 Y  o$ m# \7 @6 C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:+ o7 @/ q6 k1 q. m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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, Z! o; R5 K9 G4 S$ V4 rAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  z( l6 t/ L. l; B5 Q: B4 q5 q
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9 y- ~, G, q! R6 E9 C; A+ m他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 h. f) S1 g% t+ {1 v" K2 z

) _* b; e% {6 ?: byes, that's the point.

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