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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:, c% Q! z& ~7 W4 I3 t
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! S: E) I  @! ~1 _+ N; o. Q6 S
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# r# A- F, I5 y9 a3 K

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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/ K/ N8 A) Y2 v! I其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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6 N2 ?3 {9 R7 [- `3 B) N# x: A$ c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! v9 t! f3 \9 b8 k1 U; P

; m) E8 E* n3 @& Z4 ~3 X# T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維& f/ ?8 o8 u, R; b, p* P

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, }6 u* z. D' B5 K打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* A. h3 Y* [2 l& w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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: F( `1 S1 g4 b7 S, ZAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  {8 L! c: l$ d5 g: y: ^
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, `& o  W" k& ^& \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. x  k* ?2 L- w& S4 {他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ D6 w7 C" c! h% O; G) v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:9 k& M: H$ l# P0 X. \- D

  ^5 h9 {8 B4 K. c+ `; Vyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......