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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! T, W; A* x3 f4 |3 J- d
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! Z. M) f. ], b4 d- k( T  X
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" s2 Z8 a: s9 mBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:7 Y. [2 D4 M. E& v

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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; X% @  O/ P7 ysee #22 Thus
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  @% U. ]" v/ z5 |. O; r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->. ]- r2 R0 V" L' S5 b( E. s
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& z) o7 ~$ T( ]

  Q' Q& o) g: X7 R* `* p5 W打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:3 Y' D: O2 F1 r- r% e8 m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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/ \' g9 z# }, U7 h" m; \* z$ N- B2 v! [Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:$ Z- ?: B: @* }% q
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' g2 Q4 i- e. n5 x0 g% Z% [" f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( j+ }0 ]1 X. w8 [1 ?) K) j& w2 e
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9 ?0 {/ O$ @4 H, d2 q' F# H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......