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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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+ {7 |6 W2 ~4 u8 Q$ j% Zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 @% ^" P5 f( c; @' t; s* c" T% c9 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:/ |& a6 m+ d# N# z

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, R; D4 c3 g! y7 lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# v4 z3 q- z2 {7 F8 Z9 c其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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1 Z4 }  _' J. m7 a1 i' Z& H9 V! `智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 \6 S/ s8 X5 v: r( e

6 Q# w6 B8 S8 i- ~0 c% I+ t軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:4 ~, f, E2 F. S) i7 v* U' R8 K9 p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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( G: x2 F) O, M1 [他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ Y5 {' K5 N) O1 I
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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4 F* a7 w. h' D# l' I5 M他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 |, W9 a& u# D+ E" t  N9 F
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  e) e+ ]  d" F2 v) J0 Z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; ?' {% K; u- h0 L, y

' o7 {* d8 @) b% y- Dyes, that's the point.

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+ Y6 w( f" Z4 h4 D' h8 c, [陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......