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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" i. d4 @7 g# W- ~1 V! g2 B$ @
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ R  o. F  m  w" aBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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% D# t$ W" F' n! B; Z* w  x1 OBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 C" S9 i0 }( ]7 G1 p$ x0 o1 {其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:3 t4 y2 V8 k0 g+ ~6 P

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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' s. ^7 h% x5 _/ E8 }打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
2 Y7 V8 N/ i7 |8 {$ J% G6 t8 U8 `3 \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:2 b9 C$ W7 e$ z- l' b4 c$ z

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, D& C+ G1 _  }8 I2 d: ~9 CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:2 P( X0 S* U% u
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, \2 m7 T/ Q+ H他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......