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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ C% p6 p+ c4 u3 L9 B
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 x# }% q1 p) r+ U7 m6 ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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1 N- z! O- D$ d+ e0 D4 j' U4 qBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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2 ~) _9 M7 A( E' r! ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 F2 W  P0 k5 ?

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& X* D( A3 k( @- s  ?軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. ]6 q2 v2 F% R# T! i" z1 h) n; U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. E% q$ o2 i4 \! H; Y! S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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' [1 R- ?3 E: r$ R% K1 @6 X6 X他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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7 g6 U* f2 c0 j0 OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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- n% X* a/ g+ G0 K* _$ |& j- e: p他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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