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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ S. k" t$ y) g# C: ~) ^/ p
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:* w( ^5 g1 t) {' c% X- p

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 j+ `$ v' ?) s- @" V1 X
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 G, h& M' j& D6 J; C2 m

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.6 l. `9 Q# t0 G
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.3 J1 @" J0 Y9 j7 i+ S5 m  y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 M1 U  d7 }+ N/ W( h/ RIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! y% j% s) n8 i: ~7 w- d

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/ w0 E% p# i3 L$ |4 l! s0 D0 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 Z5 z7 f2 B" N( u

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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+ R3 B$ W# G4 ?4 [他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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