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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% e/ A5 [. t: m$ `2 J
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: p# p$ C/ A  O* @0 F* J
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; d4 z$ W- d8 W! F& wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, d" U6 k; z; c/ {; X
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 L5 U3 [0 I% E* @. ^- b  |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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# I( x: @0 W' `3 L政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.& }4 i- F  f' @  I

. Q! A! X, `1 }: j) h8 K% Z$ A9 \打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.  P8 k3 x/ i9 e: C% V
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
# [- h5 e2 O$ V! PIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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4 X1 l$ ?: ]0 s! ~( h8 [5 gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:3 t1 N/ ?/ L9 ?

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2 j) x* ~+ z2 [2 T' eAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, s* A2 s2 T1 b' ]. r( I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: a7 k+ d6 W- w+ iyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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  u: m  q+ f% Dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......