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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- a  I* ]6 W! p1 ^' z, y1 t
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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) h8 |4 j# ^- L: LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ {! Z; T  H: Z$ @

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5 r) g: n  C/ B; }8 i; U2 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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3 I" f7 Z9 U' I1 `1 B& G其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: }" G/ O% G% G; w8 V

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why?
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 \( @6 q: r+ {4 p& B% X軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) f' ]5 K  e! G# l3 g- U

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1 \9 C$ O+ @; O" `3 I. J打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- k/ T" ]5 n8 I

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 t! ]2 r/ y* e& e' E/ ~! j; g9 o
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:  @$ A) [9 F. c2 B" k/ a& \

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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( T6 a: v0 }5 h0 M/ Z6 Z5 P' J他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  i0 |/ h% A& [" O
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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0 M, a& |4 ]* B& n$ s+ O! Jyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......