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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 m8 p6 g' y* r& ~# H2 M2 G
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:/ _4 D/ E$ J* @6 X% S) l; w7 {
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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& I7 l2 T: z9 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; Q( @) U; E9 ~$ S7 F* h3 o. b7 _5 Z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 R/ h2 \  |. ?% i7 @( j智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ e- h& P0 v9 _: T) _$ z
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維, f' X! M3 s4 v, o

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2 u/ f9 P$ ^% G打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# S$ d, _0 _: e/ {
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 p1 E" V7 C0 B. E2 x3 Z+ P  s
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 p( m" J! n( ], V1 Q5 |4 @5 N! M$ x9 nAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' Q& o5 L8 Y. z. L0 x! S
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4 w! z$ e+ y( v0 D' vAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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# A( g* o7 M. [6 g; ]" @. b: R4 l他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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