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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ g+ v( }' u: \* v
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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) Q9 a5 {+ @; U2 _2 IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( [6 \- Y6 `; y, R1 n
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# z% Z0 C7 ^! T7 g  n% }; t6 R
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.! V0 _8 x: T; f% ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 }) a: c7 u8 H8 w! h0 K7 Z. Q7 E
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, ]# ?! [$ O6 I( ?' ?0 o. R. v

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/ j" @# m) D& j) @) l1 }0 S! fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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8 A, L/ r$ V+ L5 I他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:, H/ h8 [/ O, e5 ?$ _3 P) h
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) Y$ \/ D0 h, G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:- ~1 _7 n5 Z3 Y
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......