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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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" P2 P9 {; V7 r& ~) f; ?+ [But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ A' f5 Q" S: E% h

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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6 d2 W. ]* K" G2 g其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( z# I  G4 d  O2 G6 A+ s9 E

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why?
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see #22 Thus  H, k; b6 \7 p: A
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 B! a: {0 {/ F* J8 E0 A# C

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# G" h0 }+ C0 \8 \) l7 A3 e打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ {8 i+ [1 p( V7 m+ s( y0 ~2 n
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( i. C0 z. A5 O$ ~4 QIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 a, T8 d2 I0 F% C1 r

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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) b& x2 ?; u; C  a7 S# G. z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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$ W* s! t+ f1 g3 w# Z5 S- g8 zyes, that's the point.

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