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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:! v% X4 ^% m' J5 C6 z; x
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  s4 \- \3 }  T" [) \. {3 \8 _3 \

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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2 K& A4 c) O2 ]- S% ^, n( T/ ?- [2 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details." x3 M+ R8 n$ c9 h7 h

* [& G% g! }/ Q& ?5 \0 B: ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& W7 }6 C3 u( @& j1 n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( z. V! v. o) q9 ^. b$ c
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 o. g. h1 p% I' M

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0 T- t2 [+ y) J4 e: G" A他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:  ?0 m4 s1 G$ [' d0 C
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......