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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ P0 \6 L" V) N6 ?3 ?( K4 T! u

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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5 N5 c1 O7 C8 |4 c/ Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 M# l1 `3 _) p$ x. `
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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  X1 W9 |& G- h+ V其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:; z2 D) S2 f9 y

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# _" s" J0 f) b  P' d; u9 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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6 N% b  T: P, F2 `4 T6 y& N智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->8 N& `$ [. A) ]8 a& h) Q' l

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.& M+ [) {4 v$ K8 `

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" ^4 \2 P. j8 B# p
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) b( Z9 }% z% e, F7 V

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 u" ^5 p3 D  I3 h6 d* @Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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' V( B' R) s  g" Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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/ w+ Y# ^: }  I8 }. e3 C& b# S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......