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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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# l5 a! h& c* W+ u- J: c8 }but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( I! y! W, G' T- f
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# m3 \) v2 d: G9 K: n  {2 O

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3 |  k2 V& d% V1 O7 J9 zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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# d! X; }/ y% B3 Y2 D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# r7 I- ?( {7 @1 e

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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4 v: M" W( i3 S9 K+ T' F0 B, F' X打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% v4 @2 l! s9 k+ s* e" ^

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 O3 C% v, C3 m6 a
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) ~- q- g1 P7 G& u8 o( `3 ~9 q
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( k; W* G+ ], i- @  K$ [0 o

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9 T$ X) B8 D4 T7 K' w1 B) {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:  V3 r% S' V* I" U9 _, j  \# |

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- H6 d8 z) ~' D他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' p& J, ~$ E/ O

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