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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:# Q3 c/ {+ g8 l

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( K- u/ ^4 T8 U2 u6 e  L) M2 vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) d! H# i0 P& o7 q4 I: U, u
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- }( ^! Z7 F* v' N" @% `2 t' ?

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:  [& }' l8 f) D! N* f6 I
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. I  f* I3 s/ h3 U8 D' a) C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 v/ g. Q- x' u: {1 M2 e3 |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 G7 S2 g# l* F4 D1 s, [. Z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.: P4 G, a1 C9 a' k6 X+ P* F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 Y4 ?& w; ]" v7 R/ k: o9 [4 H
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:4 ?8 ]7 v. \4 z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! N; y+ H. c" \4 b
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......