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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 w6 n: M" ]1 L$ E' p; g/ W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 ], u5 }8 n; w; F. e4 j% m

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) l1 x% T8 P7 b# lBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ S- r0 r3 K+ e0 q

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; E2 k  x* J- p8 [其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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3 E$ g, N5 x0 K7 t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 b. {( u, g/ Z/ J
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 ^. o  t' o$ s9 h' c7 I/ c1 l政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 Q# n. C5 T" C% d6 f: V

5 R1 C# {% K" Z7 Q. g  m打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.0 n" I; {4 \3 q7 S: v% W* G7 ~  R

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
  s! K0 X* `# e$ r# Z) OIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:% \$ ?" b* b' d, L4 P4 U8 I
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 b; \& `; N6 P, y) P

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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. ~6 \2 h9 }( x6 ?' g5 j1 I+ i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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$ y7 z1 u7 @0 d1 O* i! j& E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. H9 S" J2 e! l1 i* O4 B

6 Q- D8 z" _$ T. P) M; Z7 }' O* hyes, that's the point.

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