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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 J6 N8 s* Z+ g" I8 d

% [9 ]3 d1 d' A( U3 M; vbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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3 f: f+ l* A/ ~! U5 Y- cBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( m& u5 ^2 D( d. ?0 s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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6 H: m1 l" D  Y" f0 s5 f. K- j* u其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 U9 J# s( h; M: D

3 d0 {0 k; ^: ?$ j智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 `# m: ]5 @5 O. D軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., x  x4 L7 P6 ~$ t' G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:. A9 e+ B* y  L' B4 q
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 q5 f# E9 }& o: L" h2 u( ?

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 O  f5 W* u! g' ]& J  [4 i" v& ~
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( ~" e' O8 R0 _9 m8 b

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 ?6 `) r4 s2 w1 K6 o$ v
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......