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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:1 K0 e) z0 T6 U; U+ g. U0 `
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.( z6 ^% W2 g; }7 Z! D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! T& [6 C( X' F2 _$ d3 \
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) k/ p0 b+ o5 f4 F

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: r8 C2 m) M3 Y
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 q) z: W5 e3 L( o9 }
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# l. I2 O* J" v4 K& ^3 x0 s

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ x; p: _4 f: y2 \7 |
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" Z; ~8 b9 g% }3 V. P- |

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- Y0 F/ u. t% c( P% D( ?( {: Z8 r! H+ s
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4 C: o1 O( X: \7 q, E$ V) xAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:( @; J8 _+ W/ u: m: @: p$ O
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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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, U" z. {, p, K. c0 t" Ryes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......