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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- Y/ p2 I9 l; G  m% |7 o* I% o9 X5 j& _

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# x9 p3 i( |5 ~% Z! n3 J5 |智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& t$ o" Y# X7 k! R

# {$ Y4 K$ Q7 k: @but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: c- [! s7 o, G# C  N$ Z+ k4 e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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# O4 H( V% ^/ D! KBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:. P1 }! d7 Q6 K4 y4 P! m

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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7 X; F4 g; u" x1 [see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. m4 a$ Z- w! [% q, T# F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 R5 h9 g& d* X5 m) h
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:1 H- `$ Z/ d+ @  A% f: j
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3 d7 M1 E4 h) a) KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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