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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" @5 L6 F, e( Z3 }9 |# T! K# ~
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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+ _+ n/ U1 u4 _* n/ s- @% A% ]- i, yBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) H, P- `7 u: h/ K
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. `6 B. y# ~* T, N5 U% O9 k/ ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多,很難比較
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see #22 Thus
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打:姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮
網上身份誰不『機密』?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 C# L/ C+ F0 Q/ ]3 X8 YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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他比孔明更偉大
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 S  g2 z, u) @# d3 y

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* i; ?0 y9 M4 j7 V' {* x, wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.
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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 h& _" Z2 g) R3 B' \& F1 I

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他支撐了蜀國三十年,雖然孔明也有27年(207-234),但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多,五虎已屈機
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網上身份誰不『機密』?
Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' N( n" i* Z9 A- b
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yes, that's the point.
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陸遜也偉大,但不得善終......
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