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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:( v7 _! y- M) t, B2 Y! M$ l

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4 z0 t/ w: W3 e( a# y5 n! a智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 v# w! o% t/ g# r1 ^But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:1 o" K; g& @+ r3 x7 G9 Q
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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8 I$ |6 _# d1 a( vwhy?
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: y" a; S1 F! q& T. q6 a+ m" M: k$ K其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?+ r: [2 l( L( E1 e* R5 B* r

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># F( L0 L7 Q+ _7 |+ X# ]% p) S
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! b/ W. Z+ Y' L. K- ?5 m% C! C
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 D5 r+ m0 k, i0 p/ q- k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
; Q: P% K% u7 B1 SIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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4 W! h. N  W" T' E7 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

& d6 Y$ ^/ d2 B2 ~; Syes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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2 u5 F) z1 G3 y+ Q2 s% _* g" s陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......