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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" u. ~8 C$ z# ^" k6 ?  A" @. w

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:5 O6 l' N& ]  [& Z4 c/ F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 x6 H! z; f" @; U, O: `1 l
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- u# U3 A. K! z2 |0 z; o

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0 g4 ]$ j* w+ P; e3 `; F- m1 F5 _But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 r" n! p1 h# g9 E其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 O5 A6 k8 a: g

8 _+ G9 l/ Y" ?) `0 _9 a! Y' B3 O軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) ~0 I) K8 K5 _8 j
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ m6 q# u6 b+ b; ]
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:' G% ~% P9 I* c( J! D

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他比孔明更偉大

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' Q' J" d8 C% r. t  W" AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- }  q/ k6 j* s4 y. B- r( ?

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0 E6 m* w4 F0 fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 X5 d- B7 D& K; s3 J! x. E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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' l! I- d8 S! V+ s+ s% L) f他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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" v' j8 B8 ?2 p9 i& L( L$ Qyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......