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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:2 T5 h8 G1 [) W

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:& ]  s7 E7 S$ D5 b  r; A5 t3 _

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( ?) y( d( C# U5 s. E  xBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 _: x% f: \4 ~) P
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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* V# |: Q( @4 ^9 R( \) TBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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0 W9 y& q* d! o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:+ x  M8 m: P7 o" a% \
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維2 Y5 o' R( N9 u5 x, o
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* E* {1 E+ q+ s3 A4 o4 c; e' T" R0 S
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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- e( i! M% W6 cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:- d: N1 I  I5 T2 [/ Q

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: l2 g# |0 h, J, f. h* l

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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6 T4 {2 a; @( u8 l$ ?陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......