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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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6 D' ^* L0 `7 y$ t. W6 B! w' }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" A" B- I, {; E! @9 t: T
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.  R/ v# e% x' g0 x1 H

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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: C5 m6 C5 f2 |& E' Z; o3 E. UBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:8 |' x' a. k# p4 b* |8 D/ [, `7 v
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5 G; Q& @0 V) _2 J0 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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: z; q" Y& P# m+ s智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: k; B' ]2 t5 M
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:5 o6 m& K# s* W' L% ?
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 D1 v& ^" `9 ?$ F
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2 u0 d5 w8 z. X9 ]他比孔明更偉大

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& {+ I  D7 P$ V. F% J4 SAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 C5 R& E( i) Q9 r2 t
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% B  q6 N7 _, j2 bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% `- B/ x/ K8 r
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:! j% ~# v5 e, G4 ^9 y
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yes, that's the point.

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