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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, M5 b. g1 p3 c& C& r
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮., u% F! l! i' A( P3 d2 w

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 ~9 \, m* n. G6 t3 I. t/ P3 H

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; D$ w3 W" w" C( G& R其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?2 R) ~2 L# K; f

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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% u' o* Z3 L, d0 p3 H( ^/ A軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 H7 b. ?$ i! u1 N8 u

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% h, j- W: U. B

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' z# E% k9 p; b2 k5 y' K2 \% IIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: q4 v/ B/ Y- V
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' o# f% I" t, X/ j, h9 C2 }4 \
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( H0 U1 g6 F' e/ y$ O他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:' c! ]6 ?+ F+ l9 t# e  x
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......