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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 i; n( o* b5 T7 \$ F

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:! @8 v. p7 W3 ]0 G+ h% `  J

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 ^1 M7 ^1 B' J0 f

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:$ I- ]" Q3 S4 z  z& n9 {

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' R* S2 k4 {; [! q) Z* S* D) jBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* J: n) g" i) c3 _4 _, Y4 i

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why?4 y5 }9 `8 J. e8 Y7 N

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see #22 Thus
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3 U: U9 M! V3 b' u' d9 W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->0 F9 f; W( ?$ o) Z3 v
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.$ M  Z# S2 e- W7 h0 C+ r! }( G/ a( u
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:# k9 G/ V4 `2 o6 R8 _6 S, M7 [6 t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 F/ e' c& X2 d- s" G7 ]
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 @4 w0 p8 F; U. _% |1 Q$ h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' Z# Z3 O5 L1 ]$ |* w

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:2 S0 M0 P/ |4 x# m8 o

3 I. n- K: Y  y$ H# W3 tyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......