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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:; V' s/ @/ M' [5 J* g+ C
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& g: R  y: i) Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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. O& G  }, |7 w1 q% xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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0 u- f; H% A* u# ]; W0 Y: Z) \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 ~7 M8 n/ N. Z0 \" O
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9 e- ], |6 _: B5 ]But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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) @% [, l  R7 i! ]/ L4 d% s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: D  Y1 n! k) u5 P$ b! B
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why?
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  H4 P/ O# _: y2 v# [) j' X其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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) ~. u: d: A8 [' U, @' {軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 N$ R7 p6 D% g) X' }9 a: y
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.0 O. X3 I6 `* N

& O" c( ~" F2 ?/ Y打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
, E4 v& n* H" ?7 @) A6 @In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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0 v- {# w$ [! o6 I! u. \他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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2 H8 e! b$ C, l+ Q8 ?他比孔明更偉大

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9 O# c9 \6 u3 \# S* EAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 K3 G4 V: d/ R# {4 t% n- i
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:8 V7 A8 R- Y$ W! h! A/ L

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: B5 O6 B6 T& o' C0 O$ h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 N+ e# p* u+ o: }: a

9 \' ?+ ^. x) Nyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......