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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 o, w1 f2 n- t# a: j
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:' l, x( Y0 y- \: R. F
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% j. s& p4 I+ @. l; i
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:( n5 @9 M7 W& N& h" G
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 o9 \0 D  }; \" s+ G$ S1 N2 [

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus% \, t& C' w/ U9 m! p$ H
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->9 J% ~  p8 r0 {2 Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! N7 @/ k  k2 L  Z

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機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# i, u6 c3 |) b0 M) E

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 ]3 J  Y0 S% \  i% l  |: UIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 A) v5 o$ ~7 N0 i
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, R2 V" Y0 I9 x% N' V3 [, ^: y
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. I# U9 m& x% Z! k& ^1 A' c他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......