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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 ^% |- q# d; i  I* u5 v  B

, ^" x! b3 R9 Y1 T; jbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.# i, k6 S6 \3 e0 Z9 m4 m) m

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:; a+ z# k1 v1 `$ J' W+ j! `
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' d. X% ^  U: t9 q# A8 \- @3 ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾---># G3 \" Z/ ^; r) k/ a" i3 ^# ?

  c' {# u0 D" x" q4 Z軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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# r9 s# j4 o3 R1 G. O打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
- x& y" w; e. Z  \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 T3 R# o" i- |, J6 c9 k

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:* A6 x6 {* l$ q
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......