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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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, c9 b8 v' a: x$ X( s2 j8 ?. V9 Z$ r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:  [; Q% P' }) Q2 E
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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8 Q8 I; l8 g$ i$ N, eBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' H* H( I2 A& Q+ z9 |

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! ~1 M! _" P' w- _/ n. oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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5 @: t% L$ k! v1 L其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) k; _9 S3 c. R, E" r7 |1 v/ s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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2 Q2 H% N# k' E( I( \( W: S  u打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 V# _/ g$ J: U+ E6 LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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$ O/ u! t1 f  J$ fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:( ~2 g! {4 `# r: J9 d

5 N  _+ p, |4 h0 f' D$ P! X; Jyes, that's the point.

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