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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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' l2 F4 c' P" B+ Z1 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" t# y$ }) ~4 b

- u; A1 W0 V" M/ W9 ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; u) n* q$ A9 FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; c9 v4 [6 j8 V; r" C

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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% T4 p) t+ _/ s# C  t/ c0 ?" ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:# D: F3 _  p+ W9 E
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9 z' y/ `, X, L7 f/ Nwhy?! l3 O7 V- s$ h! H8 g
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 r" G! c( U4 y! Q% ]' bsee #22 Thus+ f0 {9 t+ C" W

6 m8 c, Y3 H/ A# O; W( n4 a  C智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* ^! A  A, e/ m  s
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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% U! d, ~, _. o& h" }* C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ j) G% g' Y' |! T9 c5 x/ ]* U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
6 _7 v* \- ]9 `+ G$ ]! zIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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% @2 m& \3 S5 L6 Z* \7 R1 RAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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9 x7 o; \. N, W# y  oAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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- h; ~# J5 t# V5 l8 M% `他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 y$ Q  b, }# G/ `% F# x( w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......