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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:/ U9 f3 T; q* Y4 M/ [+ N: |; m
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

# X" \8 J1 }2 S( Zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:( b( W  s+ R( B. ~1 r4 i, e
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:  [+ t# f* Z2 ?

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& a6 j1 R% I( DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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: G! |( v% @% m9 O# f5 W其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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# u/ g) G1 T" G9 i* I3 u9 D  ~智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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& U& A9 {, k2 F$ K: a政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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2 U+ [5 I* A: t# c) h打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. H" X. W6 y7 E/ F: P
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
8 N7 R2 v% z/ Y& q& b3 Y' d# gIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ W- P. E# {, e$ _4 }9 Y* ]) ?
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- G5 N* }& U  u) z: S. C- B- G6 y他比孔明更偉大

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( _: c/ M/ I  m8 P6 Y' F+ E! i/ OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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) u7 _) L* L+ s+ z- ^6 `Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 [/ Y9 ]# B. d( L: y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:3 V4 [2 e- ?5 P% U8 Z$ U' p& Q
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/ }4 R! ]0 k) W: z他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 B7 J% ^8 E( i

7 ]2 e8 i" t9 Z9 y- w/ @6 Ayes, that's the point.

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9 d" Z: X2 ]' }( y2 ?0 P+ o' y陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......