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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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% ^: u; d* u" c! e0 o" Xbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' T2 M6 G+ s1 x5 |( H2 F1 c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:+ k/ Y# h1 J# D( |- Z2 `% E
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:- _+ O- D9 C% Z) c
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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9 W. m3 H$ a4 v( csee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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8 G, t( k# k! z7 V; F' Y軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# D3 y% c* X/ ]2 K

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) |8 ^) s$ l' e7 j7 ?9 F! b
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! C+ O/ r" d9 A. O7 VIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:) N( _* t; w4 G6 J% z- n* x- I* W
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5 V' R1 X" W" `% kAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 n% _) ^8 D% M2 \4 j. C$ S1 {( Y
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) W4 D: s1 V+ c2 y: AAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 h3 G) N5 I+ O$ i% a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 s! F# t) k9 q

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- k7 @* J! ~' w8 r0 x3 W5 E1 k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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5 ?7 D5 g5 H) B6 Y' myes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......