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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 t+ ~0 t4 y# S# {智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 Z$ z" G1 `  F: y3 I4 `but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:) i" X/ B- f5 l
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& d% d) T4 H, X9 N5 F+ P+ Q
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why?
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# ~) d9 L9 S5 E& ~其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: F9 T- G9 l- h7 h

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: U9 E7 z4 e4 P  q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 Z. d5 O5 F5 K/ k+ F, O& O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" d( q4 r  o  y8 }
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他比孔明更偉大

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3 }5 Z8 F5 [; e$ I5 _; H$ LAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 _/ Y, f8 G! x

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0 N6 [) R; W% O/ T他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. h; a8 c$ y2 m' k
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) j; S- U; v- ?/ B& ^! u; u" j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 ^# l* ^! K3 k% O; R! Y

% l9 G! h" _8 O" O1 m- |yes, that's the point.

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