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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& n' M6 {7 s6 x' `* Z; F
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:3 m$ z( Z. E' K' C, X6 `; E0 r

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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/ G/ G, {: u9 C1 e% ?+ K( y其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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4 W7 D$ r7 D  W. l' [3 _" o7 E智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% s' ^0 y) \6 m7 Z" X  b3 j

0 J* u$ Q0 A$ O2 v5 _+ j4 _軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維* _- |9 q+ ^& N) g- R3 S9 e
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ ?) v  |* d# F- H+ Q0 @; B5 X: V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ W, \" a" f0 t
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  L0 y* }$ v  H1 w) C* QAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:5 r# D# s4 l) P  ]- V' {
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5 T( A* b5 u7 F  \  fAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' y* J6 Y) \8 H3 o
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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