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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:% ]! H* l4 {4 H% }, I

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 t3 P" p: y, S0 I6 X& C
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:4 @/ b9 K3 _: P  i$ J
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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; \& t1 A0 T% `6 s5 {/ r+ [4 @( m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 q) i# U  ^* U  {see #22 Thus
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( U! t2 ^1 m0 w+ N9 n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->% {" y5 B0 y  M- x

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  v3 @; d$ N8 W2 H打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.- G( E- ^0 ], ^/ b3 n

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:6 o5 g3 G9 O" }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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: m6 G# X+ X2 c/ R# e- uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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: b6 x( O( S  T; f1 I( n' E6 ]Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& H) v' [4 e) r2 _1 m, Z

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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