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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ L0 S( D! i( g1 b4 k
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! W) ~/ H: p, u( X1 A) [

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:- y' M0 r+ e; O) e0 A, ~
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, e3 g7 a7 S2 ]# W

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2 C7 }5 F% |& a其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->4 L' I6 d  [- y. @/ E8 k; l1 P
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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: l/ l; x) [" }" m& E打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:2 ?4 q" V$ h! R
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:/ ?' l" s0 C% u3 l* D3 t) U

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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