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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. S5 c, v3 {8 O; E& t. i
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; e7 ^9 U2 h! O; u2 \& H( _* LBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) g) R5 {" u+ m3 d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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4 h4 X2 N+ f, T6 z3 R2 w# ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:/ z& Q" O" w4 d

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維% J5 w2 J* C9 ^, @4 @% e4 ]
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:" _6 F% Y5 L& L* t3 \# T5 f4 }
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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  z6 B% D! P/ o5 O/ Z9 PAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 s! U2 t4 l( Z2 u9 V+ v1 _
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

6 `6 O" |. C3 kyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ g; |! d8 F2 P/ K0 ?; K

" U2 I) t  z3 ^. Ryes, that's the point.

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