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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; b" D# V/ ^" H+ G7 t' |
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:. @" T4 Y, u# H: w9 S9 s* }) K# s3 ]: G
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 [2 q* ^/ s' @

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: {6 ]) K0 N$ h6 w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus6 p- Y8 T; g* w. {8 L1 N

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維# E$ R& U6 u5 S9 ^

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$ O4 N8 r+ M1 k1 V# Q打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 o; n# @8 G- j* }3 P) V4 |/ H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ i% J1 m  Y0 yIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! {* {. ]3 [. k1 \; f
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* n" a! C: w9 r, z

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2 G, Z4 X- q$ N" H" w; W他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:/ L- [3 m! K! [5 O  M
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yes, that's the point.

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