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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:" g% ~. q* u' A* V

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1 t8 s' {) ?( vBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:& B  C0 S; I, T& n/ H  r3 z
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 {" C, J1 V* j( p4 w  r  i$ i7 s軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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9 ?. x% A3 T; V% f- ]! S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.2 _% U" S" ?% O- u& y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:$ Y6 o+ B; x  J3 i
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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: y3 U& F* W4 [) u$ c: I0 }Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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, |1 b4 @# z- ?% U% B9 }他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......