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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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# p1 w$ _# _. E; B3 |. f% L  F8 e9 B智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:7 G+ s3 W2 p* A6 g
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.6 s& L- X5 _+ T" g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 j# [9 a3 W) ]9 ]0 q
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* A9 V4 i" a9 @$ ~0 Z0 \( F% H0 E! D其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 B& A- Q% Y$ o$ w! |8 a; g
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
$ e/ X  ?% c- |% G) |' M9 \In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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! @3 J, i8 V3 s% u  Z) h3 h0 lAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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: ~; v) y4 m. Y, C4 YAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 @9 x# ~3 |! ]. q1 x, |他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:: M9 f$ {$ D' j' n7 T

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:: O- t3 f9 g( a' s7 F+ o; I

1 k. G+ t4 g: f: V' Q: E' Gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......