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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  I1 ^, l0 U4 {/ N
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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4 c' U0 e- u+ H# P' Kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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  w& V+ s: Y2 R- a9 a& o: Y: m3 t0 u/ ABut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:! c& x# ?! G, b/ ^$ \

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$ c0 @- b- |0 d6 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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( ]8 i) s6 G& ]2 P+ t; h" L' P! P智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->$ a1 [1 m1 G8 \
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; H1 @. T8 c2 p/ R$ d7 M

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% ?, Z1 I4 Z+ j$ s/ C打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.$ d$ Q% b  s$ e3 F' q( B
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, Y( t! u1 l! u+ m4 L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" ~; q8 Q! W4 r. U; Y4 F% {
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( ?8 J. M+ d; P8 X1 b7 N( M+ g' A$ KAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ c9 e7 x' P  [* x, |5 z
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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