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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:- q% Z; z3 M* F3 c
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 O. g9 P/ r3 V. u$ f) RBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  D- [2 X' y' @' W/ v' EBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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; _7 l2 p7 R* K! l" n: w其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) F# g9 t7 ?" ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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7 f! \% R$ ^: @0 w1 O0 H軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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# U' h: {, [9 g3 m# Y4 q5 J0 b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ A* h* N+ Q0 t+ s
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 v0 y9 p% @) e9 ?; DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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- P6 h! @. q( c6 v7 V# q) BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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0 A- O3 Y. e  q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; D  y1 T! J. Q
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( l2 E3 L: R* q6 D. Y他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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