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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:. ~2 h; f1 z- I( r
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, R7 c7 l2 l2 j) y6 f: J
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6 i# b7 Z; s$ s9 l$ o' U/ K: o7 oBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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, p) ~( _. s) t7 }  |其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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see #22 Thus+ Y4 Q0 _* D4 z; N

+ j7 ~& E, w- n智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ `* w6 g0 a5 [% q: w1 X
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; h5 n9 W5 X3 H% k: W4 [

3 ?. \9 {& o# Y- u& k9 S: z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮., x% B6 W( p6 z9 f2 X7 t$ O3 c
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 r5 n! I' L0 J: R7 m8 }- WIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:0 v" `$ [, o. }6 k. w6 }1 T9 p* V

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 z! R+ }7 ^8 _1 O

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:0 Z8 D2 z% b$ R
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:" X  t- @5 h& L5 o. g. F
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yes, that's the point.

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