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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 a2 V; G. b4 _; r2 g

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:0 N" q1 a  J, H; i
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: v- c; a: n5 c
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see #22 Thus' ~* }% B; t2 O5 D

1 q! y  L9 S$ Y6 O1 }智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維: G9 Y9 g; G, Q
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details., i, }& x2 r$ E% X' v+ r- q% M
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
9 Z5 A' e. {1 ~' YIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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6 I* m& G5 ?( v9 k他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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- n8 D2 H9 z4 |! }' x3 K& x2 OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:0 `4 i/ b' a+ O, X( N! ^' J! l

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1 u- m8 R* f: y' V- E+ C+ s! {3 H* {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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8 F( B( H5 I2 ~) V他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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& i2 G7 ^) ]) h2 dyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......