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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. S: ?3 c& I$ v, F

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' `  ~: H- [6 m; H$ l1 WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) F; K6 E1 Q* e: z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:% @& n( v: [" C" R9 ^

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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* K' g' s! ~4 _( m1 s5 v6 \其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus1 P5 l% \9 c8 Y" f; V( G

8 ^+ A! u/ z% l% x智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 P" I  O4 O) j: Z& g. _* j

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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  v& j: d! n5 o  {% P打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; t8 s9 _- X/ p. n2 Z* k7 s, m4 S

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 U/ w+ Y9 n% P- A& s: cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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9 k( A* p- {/ A4 ?5 hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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6 u3 s' ^- N* x他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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1 r$ Q6 v; F' ~他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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