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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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4 o4 M1 t# P: g) l, R6 V智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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7 r, H5 b4 d+ Q9 ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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' e1 M6 ?' |( y* m- s8 dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:# N& z3 a3 \6 R; L; x3 \
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?  A( i. x  y8 L6 ?. r, v

8 x; b, R: Y% }+ ]( B! W2 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus) Q, F7 [" [. k, B

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% s: n; i3 D* X' f: k

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:/ Z( A* A9 g7 M6 X0 l
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& P. y/ l9 l- r( H8 u6 J

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 b  @  N' S6 Q3 m6 @4 y) E
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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9 j& m- O) k8 e& z' W$ Dyes, that's the point.

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1 F6 d7 y% C) D' j/ v/ v陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......