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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. G$ l3 S) K  a

3 Z0 |. K8 i3 }' Mbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 T/ B8 F' v0 p# a& k% F6 i  O) `% J4 MBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ a! V" v. I  m6 e" ?  V( B% z9 K
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 {/ i( s0 F' N5 {6 T

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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/ w, ~; b, B0 Z4 }( a5 s其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, \. D# b9 s" y1 {. w; q$ S

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->1 ^; w0 M. o$ Y5 R4 F0 x

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.5 R/ J! A8 J  l: j4 b7 |, d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
7 N- {( _6 M* c0 y- M3 cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 F5 g% r: b9 \( `' qAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( h' E/ o; u5 k6 dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:+ f7 X2 ^# T; g3 h
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6 j( H5 u! Q+ p& |4 a5 i他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:. f& H' L4 o; Z( N. o  t$ j
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......