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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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8 L, y: W( n. o/ ?: k- c# bBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:2 Q4 B  |9 R+ [$ A
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( ?, d& i) ]9 R" R# l: pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:6 Q  q- t, b4 I# a+ ]2 I; T! a& }$ ~
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; {  Y$ U% I. R+ d& v其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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$ Z4 j: A4 Y* x( E! b. ssee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 w8 [" v7 f2 `

, ?+ E! D( p# o3 h軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  {1 B0 Y  O( L0 p
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.: F+ d1 g* C6 A" s) o$ `( \# I2 U$ ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮./ I2 G7 ^" \) s% D& \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:) T5 @/ [" k: r: X
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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% b, G) t' t: y1 G! P. `9 jAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 G/ o& v! P: r$ K1 Z

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6 F/ e/ M! z8 x- c! [* dAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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$ {1 [: d( f. K4 |  e他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......