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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 d' s5 a' r: E4 l' D
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, \  V: p6 m% h: w2 ~+ x3 j' \But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.! _. l3 f/ h# K+ a
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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  W" \1 L0 Z; G8 Q$ v7 YBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:9 N4 p. r/ ~; p7 ~; {! Y0 g

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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" a) G* Q5 ]  ?1 y6 o1 F; [打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:0 [4 k9 e8 J- A# P6 P) C
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& @1 s0 v; D# w5 G1 z, v8 @

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:9 E% D+ }0 f" B
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) \, ]) ~9 Q3 k  u  ]( gAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& U/ B$ t. Y1 p0 I: [/ D
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/ V( @7 H& v% j他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

! {+ Y. {: H! K# Byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:4 T7 m" }/ N) h/ G* ?7 q
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yes, that's the point.

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