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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; t- z7 \, j9 P  Z( D+ g
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: Y: E, f! l& Q+ G( `. Q4 K
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus0 P" _. ?% j! _% x- t9 ^

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維) X; S) q' C% J! c  `
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.3 Q4 P! N& L* R
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ Q8 Q- y' r" M' b4 M* S+ z
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
1 g; n9 v0 Z) f! mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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) i8 J9 E2 R/ X) ^* w1 s1 MAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

2 w* R0 M& R# s* p* G9 byes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:& }2 Y+ Q* f6 @( j" R$ P
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yes, that's the point.

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