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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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6 P/ ]+ G4 B6 [3 q- bbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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6 l6 c  A9 ~  C7 i# m7 @/ @3 pBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.0 Y* K' Z* N* o% D  v* I
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:: s& ]. L. o- d
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2 f. G0 g  H- F- Y$ m, iBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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! V1 Z5 `+ n* c: b* m其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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' X( _/ |8 ?( n8 ], I7 w智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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; _0 `9 H# H5 C2 i政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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6 V! t1 o0 j% }& a; F打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
! H) J7 E& K1 XIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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: C3 ]9 t. }0 @$ `他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:$ ~' A! T1 G9 ?8 e

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& N- l8 B: Q5 U2 q5 u. W* n0 wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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5 D/ h/ i1 O; K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. q8 d: Z7 `$ @& n
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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