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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:+ q" R3 A) S- \4 b

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 ^& x3 O3 }" J7 M" |

) p9 ~. j5 p1 h( N2 r' Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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* ~0 s. `% K( k, I/ M" ZBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.1 _& o6 M1 y# V% B$ |3 R: Y

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:' Z* b9 G5 t. q: h

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, F; Y2 [" a) G* ]+ h0 L# zBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:* {& O9 w4 N' i! s! c

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->: d4 t5 K* [/ e1 U4 L
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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2 N0 f/ |! w, l. n政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.5 d; k1 A! l. ~% J5 m/ z# r- d  a3 U

' K# c7 q. ~" w  C* b: S打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.. \" u0 z5 }9 U* @1 ~$ ~0 ]# }* q$ H
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
4 M% Q+ ~- ^) j; H1 ?In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:9 S. y3 e6 W) J' W9 [, {- x
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6 \+ q  R2 F& d& @3 W4 F- J" uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ O* `. G3 ^- \9 M( Y0 L' Y
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- S6 S1 ~/ d9 Z. UAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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9 H% X& i7 `0 q# w: \' r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:/ L4 [( f6 _/ x( G, `  b

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' k+ b  F+ m7 l) `! W5 P7 o6 r他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......