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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:  a/ ?2 o; x, p' G3 u* b
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9 }6 N3 S. _+ m% t; t智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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/ K$ U2 d# o% y/ [7 ?8 N( H. X2 Wbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮./ L, p" H! s2 H2 k& r- C
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[ Last edited by 機密 on 2006-1-30 at 09:45 PM ]

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:1 |' \3 k  p' u% Q

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why?5 ]$ v" a8 K$ b! c! b" I

( I3 s4 [0 y  P, |" }9 Z& g6 a3 _+ ?其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus  k5 R" \. X) }
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.+ U) V# x, b# D& D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:1 b8 D1 J" L5 i: `; W: ~4 t4 Z
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:: h! o7 D9 M; H4 @

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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" x, |7 e; F* Z0 o) A
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9 N* P- |+ {1 @, O8 \; N2 p& \Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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" ?, m: d6 e$ ]- q0 K他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:% R: f) D( }5 f/ ]; x7 d
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4 G( y- ]5 t# t) P. N他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

  }$ J5 _- ~/ }% |yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:; p! U3 ~5 f# A0 p5 t, b0 ^

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......