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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:" I: Y3 r& A( e, v
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. I, d5 `8 ]& h# p

; ]6 w7 V5 l' a2 E/ abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.5 j  H7 a/ o- U
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:, S- V9 X8 W3 h) P
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" r! |; f; Q# `# C9 E# {- a2 dBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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7 V; H: G/ ^3 j其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus+ T2 d. d. k  B8 Y

2 ^, \1 [% }- k4 K; o3 H智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ K2 Y+ A, P, r% p) ]. W5 |

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& |, z0 [6 x  ^打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% [/ w/ e0 }  d5 }
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:8 W% q. H& S! E! c3 V
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:5 J+ ?$ c3 ]% c0 T# G, K3 Y; W
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他比孔明更偉大

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8 r2 |& X1 l. E" A, R; X" w" ]8 D1 |Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:' f% f) d/ X# N

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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1 ~) H& k* Z; x" q# j; R5 Q他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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! A# c/ t6 R" E3 d: r4 ~1 E! ]* k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 k) ?8 F6 C6 v* V3 t5 G

/ w9 @. E! }* n, F8 y5 iyes, that's the point.

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