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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 j% D- c! M2 h* D

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:' @, A+ p# F7 x- u- x! ^0 E. {! _

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# a% v4 e( O* }8 i; w$ Q: ], j: z其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus% L5 X' ~1 |& }& O# p  f! D

- P$ V  [) l4 D& g- Q% r智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->+ f$ s* m; I% R8 h2 w5 @9 m
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維" E. W8 b) M& D) h5 K/ k; ^  P

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" P0 y) T4 S1 w0 w. V" b打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:& w. R! `1 j9 O; {; f: D+ K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:" o1 i1 k3 \! q& M  u4 K6 `
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:8 X) Y0 i3 E3 c' S# N1 J- |0 b

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* ]5 q; x6 o" h. G3 B7 A( CAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:' a- v3 \: }5 t

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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