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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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! T7 @$ [" d8 c智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.7 Z/ Y. J7 E. M- M3 j/ |' F

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 D! ?9 r. Q: WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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& @1 y! @9 q! o其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) y$ W; K* i0 f( |: `

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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  |- z& w4 O+ }: r) L+ c9 g5 w打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:* _6 ?4 W& `  h- y; O4 S0 a) W! a6 w
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:/ E4 \2 {% r2 ~* z, O

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他比孔明更偉大

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& c8 ]- I* Q9 e3 l, O7 v4 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:3 _/ c; E; Y0 P

  E# i: |) e3 o' o. \yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......