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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:6 \9 Y1 i7 ]; x. |7 N9 P

9 Y- U. r1 a& N& kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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9 i# @: H' _" j( z& R& j9 }" QBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:! a; t# E; t0 @6 L& K3 ]3 a
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+ g  i/ L! g. Z1 z6 m' A( l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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6 L$ w9 F4 m: A/ fsee #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ N9 g7 E3 u; H: f: v

% J: Q7 f2 w# ]; a1 N0 x0 ?軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維! _* }4 q7 N+ y( p* j! Z
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% ~8 b" p- O- I3 w
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
3 G' b1 i& F" mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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0 B/ F' F6 C7 e/ O他比孔明更偉大

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1 \& o& j8 t4 T5 U* U  Z7 i3 C1 OAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 F/ l0 h, A, A: x+ u; U+ @* P0 C9 }: o
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  F8 G( T8 x* x7 t  z6 S6 i8 S/ bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! F- f# L2 s: f- o$ Z

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# F8 V% H/ F+ |5 r8 S. c' v他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

151515

Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:, ]# r( o. a6 M' L2 r+ B

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......