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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; R0 Q; v* n, q/ g. T3 y
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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0 d' ^3 X, {6 L% L. A& XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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see #22 Thus& y; P" V# h; P" d, e
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->  T% ]/ V+ C2 I- }# _
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維4 p1 A% s+ n; v3 ?( r
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.# q3 s0 F6 Q; R# J

5 J. [9 F: I4 }! ^  X+ z打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:9 }- j8 f6 f0 ]) k" S/ n. ?9 L
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:& G- j3 [1 ~- l+ W8 L
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4 S: V3 I/ Z' e) r* |. H6 k' uAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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( i3 o/ h. z  C! J* b# `* wAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:! d3 x: L$ M5 g) s% D% g
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 Q7 e6 n( h( j; r4 ^
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......