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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:5 K2 p6 M) s  j4 B

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:9 _6 C2 H+ i& D; ^3 V, p
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, B, y6 d; v7 a7 _. D& IBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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+ @) X, m. T; @/ ~5 VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, w8 z3 [- ^$ I

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see #22 Thus6 v2 `! [. q! \7 f7 {  y6 h

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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維$ r8 \% Y; w; s
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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+ _: G& M" z- `$ m, J, l打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- N- I3 {! x  O/ K
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:7 i3 y  v8 ^  M8 X
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4 {* B" J8 O/ _' e) L, N+ cAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 ]# g# m. x3 F
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% U! N2 s2 T+ V2 JAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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  p( @5 o. G) C' @他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:; w* e% n0 Q- ]2 @" O5 j

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5 K1 i7 Y/ T$ }1 w* _他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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2 T% U- t0 e5 B) Q0 f) W( }3 u: gyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......