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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:+ C6 C/ S4 w$ P* L3 _. L
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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+ w- }6 b+ f/ h  q0 E! c7 XBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.' u5 s; I4 T% h/ h8 h9 S+ @5 |
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 U% [0 d9 f, j1 @" j

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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( G2 w$ O: W0 t% I0 F% P+ z智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->! T; q( c/ o& x. Q, h1 w
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維8 \" Q7 P: E9 X0 N
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.1 h; s6 D( g3 w8 U6 d

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.# _/ _1 @, R6 j' r( a& G

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; o+ G& t) Q3 o: S. y& `
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:8 |% i+ {, N8 C% |5 M; e
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他比孔明更偉大

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2 t' n6 T5 d. V2 m. mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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. s) U6 L3 A1 H; y3 E他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:% ]7 d  {3 t. z/ A3 w: N: r

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