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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:) ^4 c$ n, ?4 y  q% N

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:$ ~, @: b6 Y1 t

3 {9 s8 V4 K7 e" n# i% zbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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$ q# u5 x% d  {6 Q* ~/ y- @But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:( z" q, M5 j  }% g- s$ u% c
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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  Z, }+ S; h! M$ W1 p智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->5 C- ]% f/ B: ~+ Q( K: s
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 A, ^0 i) ^& B( @9 z% N

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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:; T, @: Y9 f0 S2 d. s
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:( V( _3 N2 V' J% H8 w  C! U
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* s# q; k$ Z% e* |9 yAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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3 a6 \3 Z2 t1 f, B: q( x, G他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 `/ e* b* g7 A8 E* ^$ a他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:8 e7 S  j3 h2 P; N1 Z

1 i; y5 e: M$ I1 zyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......