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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:: b# Z! f  X  x& j9 Q
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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.% g$ K" I' ~6 u" ]+ j: n
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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8 s4 D" n- g. p) gBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: ]5 u' M" @& @  ~

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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8 X  z' Y5 \7 |% M8 k7 W智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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9 p8 Y* \0 v  X7 L$ i2 q( o軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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1 A  K1 y. m$ ]9 D" A打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.1 E' W* E7 J1 r( E0 u/ k
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:! a5 R. J: s& l" H/ e8 ^3 m
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:9 w, w- T6 C8 P1 U. a& e
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:) Q5 `& ~" [: S$ Q$ y% w1 j. t: F9 x8 ~8 F
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......