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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:* v5 B& S* T4 `" A! ^) v% {* I$ s
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

+ I  K& [$ ?4 O  A& |but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:* i2 P: l" {5 `# e& v8 ~

% |: |3 d, e0 `  Abut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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7 V! _/ \- A0 G# \3 ]5 ]9 b% hBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:, m$ ?, |  r1 W4 x5 k* D' ~
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 q# B  V% J" a' v2 f1 U
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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5 Z3 G5 d1 Y- w6 K4 ^軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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* S7 I3 \8 c/ m6 g打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.; N$ I9 ~- I5 H0 J% i6 ~

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
* j' I+ r4 J' x& m+ mIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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- i- w! t4 S/ v他比孔明更偉大

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2 }' Z9 \4 p+ U$ j5 _Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:6 O9 x8 x( w" p4 W- ]
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- Y! t, M' i5 `' M7 E" |6 |. HAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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: T) b0 S) P/ |' b" ^他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:& ^( ?2 P6 x1 P0 ^

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$ F3 R  g" p  o. ?1 I+ S他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......