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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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" x% ~% O0 `" y( Ibut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.; D8 a& v; F( y' r' Y- E& g, e1 D
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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7 @  n9 _8 s6 |+ }1 PBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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- \8 y# O- T. I9 k: ]0 T其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus8 {1 ~* A+ X0 m- C) l/ i: ~. I

" x' p) x6 i- y0 h9 r% _9 D+ y智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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/ v+ m+ ?6 G; T軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維6 w% u1 b9 K5 L* A7 P1 G+ {1 P, w

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+ {7 u3 F4 F: D, q/ N0 q" g4 ^( ~打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 q7 s! ?7 {9 o
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:7 l. [% n3 ]5 @" O+ A$ y1 t
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:6 m: j, V- ~$ u) D+ e% D
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2 o& U, o3 H/ d+ t% @' R- {Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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% P" u1 e% Q$ s. V1 BAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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6 x: T5 A% \; k# t% n他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:7 U% J( q/ P  Q" s' Z' f
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......