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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:, V3 I( w& U( n% Y* @' L

4 f! y7 V) k' Kbut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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/ N4 P9 f5 F8 wBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.+ I. W4 i3 L6 E' T( q

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:8 w# b7 b1 K' W  o  a
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:
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+ K# ^% T3 @/ P5 x) ?- l其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. Q; @. T) J( J; P) H; P0 }see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->& @1 y( M9 h9 Q
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.) y  O- N. H, l* L- y, Y& F) p* T" r

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
0 H0 {& o5 s5 uIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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1 F( H. U! H) [" e他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:! h3 Y2 v: y/ S& y2 N

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0 Q* t/ h, n) x' I. ]) mAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:7 [/ m( |$ i6 v) M- v

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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  C! ?7 N2 S+ v. Q9 u- ?! m1 ?他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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- F0 S. M- Y( Jyes, that's the point.

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