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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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; _; H% j. }7 fBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.& ]* o5 h( v% d

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:9 ~! `& J! Y7 ?
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* K6 u# E# l5 y& WBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 X' y0 T) ~7 F2 y
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8 L1 s& [, q1 K6 V3 n0 l& @9 B其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus9 d2 E% v# i1 w9 ^& A2 \- J* N3 I
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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6 F5 w6 W0 w/ R+ b* S, J9 E: I8 F軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
( y! S, O1 F% n- j7 d4 iIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  J; p% b4 V; P4 S' K! e" Q

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7 g2 u2 p* b9 R2 K5 I7 z4 l他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 s! E" R! W, }5 _

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# }  o8 r- O, M5 n$ D$ L( h他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

4 |* x& L2 A; g5 J: hyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......