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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:4 h2 I7 j4 ~1 n2 {, K

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:
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; M; f0 q  V1 r: D7 {" s: G3 e- ?But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.2 X: Z! Z8 a4 @/ j* U

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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9 m# W- C) c: O$ `其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:5 d! {* j) u& O( F

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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. T% Z9 x: O" L$ s( c2 F, p軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維  H. U) }( I5 [% ]: r2 x  b
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.; ]3 k8 T1 g" x4 J: J% n" J/ ?
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.8 M; b4 T0 m1 W
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:- f% L" F3 }+ N9 ]9 n
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:  }, W# L9 u- X, _- r

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:+ _2 x% Y5 S, m

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) S+ S" B" d6 a5 r3 y! bAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:* i( _( [4 @% f+ e' H4 G

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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yes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......