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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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, ^; `( y, ?- n3 R. @% n" [智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:. n: h4 Z* i* Y

$ m* k6 G6 n1 ]5 ebut 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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, S& w# _( c+ E! P- I; e7 t- f! DBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.: p) J% v6 T6 K8 M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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' `5 X: ^  B1 O5 j! B6 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:" u  [& X- ^/ H( |& W

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5 ]/ H1 c) @3 H# }; _6 c% _" ]其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus; j9 Y1 }# ~( M  V1 [* n

! b/ l8 K* t' B& p0 f0 q3 K智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維; H6 I* r; ?. Y' R

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7 a! Z* j% I# u5 N* x( n打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
' x/ Y9 e; Z; b% L0 C) Y# cIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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! K5 h: x. Y8 q( O* Q" GAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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2 D7 ]- _, n$ E8 k# Z! A3 d他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:
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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:6 J; B; J3 k, N) g

# L- C/ Y& Z. a5 qyes, that's the point.

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