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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:0 K' O! Q. j0 E% |. M) q

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:; g8 y! t  Q( L! ]2 A
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

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( u4 L; M3 s$ [8 j* VBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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3 `4 T# m& r3 X. FBut I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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why?
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5 I+ y* F3 ]% E$ i0 ^5 S其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:4 m3 v. C6 z' W" u: f0 l0 a+ D. v
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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus3 h) ~8 O( K( \9 r. ]
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->7 s, v5 ~8 _. j1 W
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軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

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In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.% B2 @0 e" n! j, s) M
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:, t4 [# U7 n6 t# q- i5 O
In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:, D, T6 R0 e2 ]$ r2 i

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:. A0 A* W1 f- d6 z
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& P' o/ O) g1 w他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:5 i! Z4 N! |* G8 C4 A* S
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......