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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:& T6 \0 T2 p6 ~1 n- `
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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:2 Z) r; o: I0 f6 T+ |

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.3 H7 B- r) b' E- }. \

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:) V, y- N& a8 s# t
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3 O! _5 l* ~4 ]. x8 S* ?, H$ C其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->3 e  u! k- F* _4 Y1 y

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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 S3 e0 i/ T3 D: l/ d$ e
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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
5 ^; ^4 p( ?9 t# ?- J) v5 j7 J: \, LIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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他比孔明更偉大

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:" q. F, ?% ?' M& z  l# c) P% X

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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:2 _; A" k& P0 O) U6 J( q% i: i

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他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

8 V3 x: c$ k6 cyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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( _# v. b+ W0 g# j2 l0 T4 w& Fyes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......