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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:41:
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7 p! |/ _. F' v智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->...

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but 鄧艾and陸遜have 10 pts,姜維only9

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:42:0 h" g, Z' w7 K8 e

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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維. Even they are clever, 姜維 was taught by  諸葛亮.  He learnt ~90% from 諸葛亮.) x) \4 F7 N" y+ ^2 i& \6 W2 J

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:44:
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But I don't think鄧艾and陸遜 is really better than 姜維.

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機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:45:: t- u+ q# O) W

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其實他們實力差不多，很難比較

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see #22 Thus
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智慧: 諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜--->姜維--->鄧艾--->/ r6 c1 |, K+ e) Q4 x

6 H5 K$ R( F) P軍事才能：諸葛亮-->司馬懿--->陸遜~鄧艾~姜維1 b3 B1 o: d9 r+ k+ a
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政治才能：<--- actually I forgot the details.
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打：姜維--->鄧艾--->司馬懿--->陸遜--->諸葛亮

機密

In addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better than the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.4 ~1 \0 E( _3 d2 y( w3 r1 d3 x0 s

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:50:
& [4 J; z6 }8 V. o9 R) DIn addition, a merit for 姜維 you haven't consider for him.  姜維's fascination is better the others because he was the only student of  諸葛亮.

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他比孔明更偉大

機密

Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:51:
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Agree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 21:55:
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5 g+ I7 n- m; i8 |6 j: s( E& ?6 @  hAgree.  Both of them were extremely loyalty.  However, he was more great because he was in more poor situation.  He could maintain a same loyality to his boss.

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Originally posted by 151515 at 2006-1-30 21:58:1 Z1 X0 h, u9 i# c1 V8 F
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- q" }1 p( k' h! u7 G% k他支撐了蜀國三十年，雖然孔明也有２７年（２０７－２３４），但那時的人材比姜維時期的好很多，五虎已屈機

: _/ U, h9 @' Lyes, that's the point.

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Originally posted by 機密 at 2006-1-30 22:03:
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yes, that's the point.

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陸遜也偉大，但不得善終......