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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力"." r3 b5 i! i$ F* a6 r( [3 }

6 u# O: U& F( ~6 J相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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4 U. O5 s$ s; w% N) T例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%3 g) l& |9 ^; D6 p) T3 i- h
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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psycho is hard~.~
+ s+ s0 e. k7 ?* ?2 |) j6 h7 xhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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  Y0 N# ^4 o" Q; t+ H* X$ x$ L我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
4 ^  n4 d- E0 W+ B& w以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:" @. w' m( M& D# Y1 o

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" K0 q! a( I# X1 O& H哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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um...
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." ]& F4 F$ u# x2 @$ g$ M" s

; ~' @) B) w) `哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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+ p& V# V* Q* y, u- @  Q: V: Q哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:3 J$ |+ [+ y1 {, C8 Y
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 4 k2 s  t  x1 `- X% J
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la, q! p1 H8 \/ V" |# ]( Z
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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