singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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8 i& D! R* ^" J, h+ U) x  f! GThis is a good po ...

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& v$ m8 z- ^7 Q多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".! i- u& c3 ?5 I# \. ]) J

3 x+ x# m* H! r: W8 J相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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1 I5 |  A" _) B4 j* n例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%( V7 c& c0 l! l* R; Z( n# D5 f
會考就係最好的例子.) \  M. q* K: c6 K
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:6 a% s; a( s& d3 ~3 Y; u

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me' U2 I3 _: D- u) G" g3 S% {1 B4 t
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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7 ^! f% z* n9 W9 f, ^5 G, Qgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:5 j$ X. ^! L7 w+ T3 {

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1 r9 a1 _) {) Q; d) H' R* z多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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8 `$ v  b9 W0 n# b5 @hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
! f. H! s) V5 ]& B% I  n$ t以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:8 k2 g9 Y/ g6 o
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/ Y$ Z+ v) B: l1 r2 ohahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.* r: C) M/ b5 ]' k- v) b" E8 S
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:/ X7 ^2 z  j5 O% r3 Z3 P, M" U8 d' C

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psycho is h ...

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, ^! u1 J+ S* A8 ihaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:/ c7 p$ q5 R& `* h; G5 R
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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% \8 J. l/ L3 @; @哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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8 v. k( [6 V  v+ f) B$ i! Q3 ?/ X同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:5 c4 {; k8 f. z. G* Q
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4 ^  R8 W3 \! H% i# \! ?  |: Rhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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7 h: s7 ^+ ]- H* b( A* g* K& M- R5 B9 fagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
0 S7 M% j; N7 f3 C9 x7 b- Jbesides, crap! interest to ask u
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