singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力"." c$ A9 r1 _: `$ H. m

4 V& h" ?2 K: s& j8 S$ w' d相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".6 P8 `- Y) c7 i% X( I' c3 a1 C
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%8 F4 X) ~5 i. z- |& j% _* q
會考就係最好的例子.; c- k5 ^+ j- M0 K- K7 [
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
! F. c$ R5 p& L" lhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me4 ~; v6 D" E2 x" I( O3 b" P
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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# u) V+ j) T) H多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣  b5 X0 [# e; t# A8 L; b
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 % V9 E+ M2 ?4 [& W) \
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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7 r% E! h" @  V: W# @哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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( f" e- v; Q$ f2 m哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:1 G9 K' J7 D& p/ l" w5 \. m

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um...
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) L) I1 {! z. hhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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  V1 I7 ^/ W  K6 s: J哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.9 g8 {6 w/ l) y. m- E/ t
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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! V7 E7 ?* c3 R; [哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢+ h* ]- ]; i5 @% `

: Q9 [- z2 r' R  j9 _+ O同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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+ g, Q2 D9 o+ }9 L  ]) q: _haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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6 w, {' R/ T' ?8 C. Rhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)" q6 [$ z/ P" O5 T0 _
pls enjoy# M& w: p* E9 Y; l0 G. f
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!