singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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+ i3 M, e) w, J  T6 p9 w  r多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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: G  Z' @, R4 {相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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6 d, l) ]& @1 g5 H' ]7 u例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:- L, e$ i1 E" w4 j+ O

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me, [1 `5 Y# H; h0 K" v$ P
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on5 o" a1 O* {& L1 p$ c* x' |9 ]$ J

$ `1 X$ e( v, w6 P$ agood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:+ N' M) k$ e- X; O

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+ E, h$ R* X" x8 ^多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 2 j& t' w: X* @$ P0 h0 Q
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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6 ~. J. o' P8 S7 t+ Q0 ~, B哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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& H& v6 J# @  zhahhaa, 不用客氣
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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3 G$ R6 p7 R; T哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:0 b, g0 d2 P8 S! j  ^( i

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psycho is h ...

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6 U" l& K; }$ l2 V7 [! c3 d4 k1 bhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:% P% s2 i$ ~! `) ?  f( I9 p& z
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.% m, R) c, J% M  s$ v  w  e0 e# m
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持2 E9 \1 n( u! @9 Q: v, j% g" Z  B

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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la$ H" M6 t6 R+ [% H* t9 Q, x
besides, crap! interest to ask u' z4 [, K3 N! B3 p1 e8 p% u- `9 B
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!