singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
- Q: h- B3 ]6 r$ i' O
' M: V) D8 ^3 V
% v( v7 P+ |5 w7 S3 |) P' yThis is a good po ...

9 h$ v7 T/ ~. c5 \

, T$ U+ g+ g( q( q9 \& P1 U多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
$ x$ f- Q- ?5 Q3 y! d' _& x2 O+ @% v  R  w' K7 y. F! U0 H) \& N3 r
相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力"./ v2 O4 h2 a  P4 k& _
, l& O+ B0 ~; M+ k! H3 j; {6 o
例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%/ _" G$ t: Z0 _3 v" i% Z
會考就係最好的例子.
6 B/ F. i9 ]2 ~5 L0 j) e就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
) u. O, h5 |" Z) h( f0 i
1 `9 B9 O; x) x2 c; ^2 C; d4 C, k+ @9 M. r5 c
yes, i get yr poi ...

7 y5 B7 C5 _4 Z, ?% |1 G) M4 _5 I& [; _
um...
/ |/ m0 j& G8 O1 o. B. {psycho is hard~.~* h$ U& |3 H0 d* T
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
  W) S! T5 u- K& T6 G* n6 bi'll try to think about it more deeply later on$ p9 q7 d% \. v+ r( i9 Z9 w7 k+ ~

- `& ]6 ]' K5 j$ O) b3 zgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
  w7 ^; M8 o' j4 p4 X/ c' J( g) a. K( w

$ X5 K5 i2 c2 T# \4 `7 P0 }多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

+ }& `- c: B0 ~' t* B
: V* z7 j) y# Ohahhaa, 不用客氣
/ s0 |; h* p2 H6 y$ {. T4 v, _. Q5 [$ X5 a8 h8 A& K9 g% z; Z
我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
) M- I  z; t) K3 ?) ?& j以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
1 V# ^+ r. \4 V, v9 j2 h. S1 i" e6 p) k" x0 T# u1 |( y
哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:% B+ A2 {4 H* t$ Y9 p7 h! I5 O' T
3 a" Y! r, `/ J) l
& A8 g1 I7 i) w+ P% A8 n
hahhaa, 不用客氣4 Z0 U4 F( i1 g
$ y$ p7 ]% o8 E: h1 ~$ s3 m( p. g2 O
我 ...

. m0 }7 e% \/ M3 x
( ?! `5 e9 n' u4 W' Z$ Z% b' ~! C哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
4 D7 h! V8 y( E1 i
" I! k, R. |* y! \0 ~0 T/ Y( {哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
0 o6 y+ b7 f' ~% a6 m3 T7 S: O! J
2 ~+ ^$ a8 I& ^- D% r4 _: p1 }$ X% @- R2 ?% @
um...
3 U6 M, c" U2 q- y6 y( g, w% Kpsycho is h ...

! Z2 l: d" O: W" D: {- _& q
  M; G6 t* o  G3 `5 Y9 M7 W- Jhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
& n( j% P  x) |1 F  g7 _
3 n2 ^- i$ O6 t( u5 q: k: K哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
' @& V# ]5 N& j2 ]$ U% \: ^/ F, t% u. g' u; [
哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

& Y% a, y8 e6 X7 S5 i, ]
8 w; C- Q7 F8 e5 R哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢7 V, j* H# a" V6 a
4 ^4 C& o" z( x% n
同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦9 W  D  d$ s' \3 A$ z& c( L
! b& g, s7 W5 s% S
你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持2 F0 x$ n( a( v
5 y6 E% {. Y8 f/ F, `0 X4 o: t5 [
[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:. c# E. G, J3 U7 S2 y3 p; Y) q

+ o& b6 d  j4 b* A1 Q' I9 k  J, l3 \. ^# k2 M
haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

3 b. m& y* e, w; ?) [. c
) B! }' j% U2 L: H, J6 _0 L
haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
! [4 T6 y4 v+ fpls enjoy
1 ~( H% N; @2 L1 |# U: s6 F' L& H0 y: n$ L+ w' _% V
again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ( n  P7 F7 r% o6 f6 U
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
( ~3 m6 t0 E) x- D5 v9 m0 h0 hbesides, crap! interest to ask u
% F6 J7 r# P$ m1 j# u# [which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!