singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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. S# H# O0 }, {* ?* SThis is a good po ...

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3 e; B) v6 P1 d0 k) _4 u. s( }/ Q多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".+ X; r6 U7 C2 X+ u  d3 e0 P

3 _& u. J4 I% v* P# X. U* J/ V" w相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%, Q/ n5 f  |+ d+ ^% _+ J  U
會考就係最好的例子.0 ?2 ]! G: R; o9 y6 `: o# A
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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psycho is hard~.~
6 z0 w& X, S  Y) Ehaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me/ V/ Z! v) s: S( @! |  y/ @
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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" r! y0 O0 d% W9 A6 Z* wgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
; X0 [2 Q) w* g; l% L以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀- G) w! }( F1 S
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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2 [2 J3 v2 c; X4 F哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:' E+ [: B* I/ L1 T" d8 ~
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:5 V) U6 Y  A; ?  L. |

# D6 K4 E3 q; L- F$ ]5 i3 i' h& H+ M哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.5 |$ Q' r% d1 e2 k; d
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢! \: v6 E" \2 `4 A) ~7 d
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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: i5 q0 c/ d, B9 g' B你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:- k: h% i7 v2 B

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally), h- c$ A5 v4 T  c: b, N5 n
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 7 Q1 ?; S, s6 _5 o
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la8 Z* i. |1 w' M9 ^  |
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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