singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:% [8 l. l' s9 S9 q1 T) O
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This is a good po ...

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! t3 L& l4 r. y: v* R多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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4 Q8 h" g: n7 [相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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" g4 V' E% ~0 `* e' S例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%7 ?; f* J7 o8 m' `2 r" `0 l5 b3 V
會考就係最好的例子., G6 I) a# r6 U/ \4 M! ^
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:! i  e+ z; q9 B" M! z2 _
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! Y, T  Q0 K" kyes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~  T* V. ~4 c6 c6 g* M9 M" Q8 M
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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# a9 F: u% U% g  \7 L8 ^good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:9 n# u: x$ H3 Z8 \- H$ k! `
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; c  Y" W, @' X) E9 W9 Z6 ]多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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8 K9 w$ A$ q1 T- {6 U. Khahhaa, 不用客氣
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$ T* g/ v  _+ y' `  q我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 : ^4 K" [( g( P7 X
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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  u7 ~" f5 u7 N! T# d. X. T& \; h$ l哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:7 H  _7 ~$ P1 p) U. u3 H
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hahhaa, 不用客氣2 h4 h/ _- }5 U( ^# E
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我 ...

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8 q2 P9 U  v, k4 p/ ~哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.& x! T7 b1 u# N( i. ^; z

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.& V" N( L/ a8 m  z% H9 h/ A7 F, z
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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, h8 j6 n7 o: @3 ~( W7 H同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦7 ?- T$ W. V  V4 w: f
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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  f5 T+ p  u; {; q8 K$ G+ g' z2 ?haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)2 l5 \5 H; U- _- U/ h* c
pls enjoy
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9 t/ [5 E1 T$ F. z! K9 ragain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO   _+ l$ O$ h* m+ o) |# L/ Z
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!