singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:2 c1 P" }; ~/ m$ Y6 I" [# N
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".  {8 c6 w6 P* V2 K8 z

9 e3 j+ f: z: k7 U* g0 Q$ l相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".2 F( f: r9 G- i5 }$ d6 h, G$ r
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%" {5 D( C7 P6 G+ ^0 f
會考就係最好的例子.0 N6 F5 ~$ Y- \4 h: i. q9 Z& D6 n
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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; L3 v7 R' `% c+ ?- @good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:$ k: G/ h) Z3 ^5 x! j

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9 u! o! E3 X% e* Q0 l. s9 X! d5 O多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
0 r9 [8 P1 y; u- K以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:6 ]" ]. n5 s& Z. a4 Q/ o( u# [

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1 G& U9 }6 b( L8 I哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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" G7 g5 K7 Y+ [. _6 T+ p0 G! Z. T哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:( C, m% b4 Q5 z( e( Q  Z

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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/ L. R1 l1 x( [哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.( a8 I, V8 W( ]3 {6 f6 h9 ^

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' j+ B6 I/ `5 r+ X8 {3 Q3 a哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢$ Y0 d5 j. C: D8 L0 C

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+ l) c5 k! J. d' O你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持" C$ E* j, }, Q. l7 x; f3 O% N
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:* ^' @- v9 D  J
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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' ?# q5 y: Q7 @$ l3 jhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)' D% t' b! w. Y2 j2 G2 s+ ]
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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