singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:  P6 F' [$ I3 v
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This is a good po ...

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+ ~* e0 Q5 d2 n2 x  B, D* @, L多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%" Z' E- e* q8 K4 ^% L/ }
會考就係最好的例子.( z" P0 ^5 E3 x2 d( e: y
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:0 K) y7 }3 |) s7 f, a
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; A9 J3 v( q% oyes, i get yr poi ...

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1 {$ E+ n4 ?9 }/ x# ?* Ihaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me4 c& i) z0 J0 r/ Y: c: o4 u
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on9 y4 K% p) X1 h2 |/ V7 j$ ~# d; r- f
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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- [4 X7 z1 H* @. G1 Uhahhaa, 不用客氣
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- ^: S1 S/ Z, X# H1 A) G6 N3 E0 @6 Y. g我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
1 B/ x% e# u7 g' S2 r: r8 r以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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- Y' v7 A2 \% f- J3 q* y- ?' K5 ]哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:& J7 v# m- f) Y: e, q* i
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hahhaa, 不用客氣5 Q3 z9 L2 u) W

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0 ^7 m( i* H. k( ]哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力." d( i+ X: |7 w1 j, N
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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um...
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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! e7 l* ~& M$ p1 v! z9 D哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.. P) ~  v" K8 F

$ s% w0 f2 R) M( U哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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6 Y0 W- l2 w  ~5 s哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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+ b7 e7 q! c0 E) p- O% N% k; t同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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1 i( P& f# i+ d7 t2 M% A8 c. xhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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! S3 M3 u; E7 Q7 O2 jagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
3 d8 e7 n0 E0 H, U0 tGive it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la8 k) s2 B( T- F$ v; i+ S9 w' j
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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