singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:6 L9 K7 W) N, e" X/ G* Q. R

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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%" J1 L( s9 R. |# M% _
會考就係最好的例子.2 j2 X2 N! X; Y: u
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:5 ]" O8 z* g5 M( J. v7 i! i2 J

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~" N1 Q; A) j) A' x( _2 w4 v
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:# J: d" y4 }& {( b8 C/ V

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# X1 D3 n' Y7 \$ M. d9 _多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 4 {. {# L- @$ w- P& b7 E# X
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:# j& N, ?2 a& c! m  q& `
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.8 o$ Z4 {# A. N( G7 Y# I

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:1 H, i2 F  z9 i$ K! n
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psycho is h ...

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7 d+ n7 u6 J4 Y/ ?. Dhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.' k  i# l7 @6 [$ G, y( Y
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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. {- f$ N& I& _1 B" k9 \哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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7 p; _4 C3 U- l' q% u3 C- r; B同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持+ P3 m! O# |+ V" b  ]3 M; e) B
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[ Last edited by crap on 2005-4-27 at 02:39 AM ]

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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6 h! H. R7 r9 z0 v% F9 rhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO % U* X" N% K4 _- g- l
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la1 x' r6 Y; w% ^+ y7 C4 T6 K3 j+ `4 [
besides, crap! interest to ask u0 L' d* M* L) N- O3 I
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!