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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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: \! r; L1 M4 P1 a1 t- w多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力"." R* u! ~1 a. A% X  M

) o0 A% [% K7 \* E相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".% c; S6 k$ Z& m& V
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%! F, D, M( s7 x9 O7 z: |
會考就係最好的例子.5 `% L6 Y' o" T
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:1 f. ~% N' S4 P3 g: s6 C
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) T9 Z& o- r1 n' nhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
4 a% C/ ?) d0 }: ui'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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$ P) y! b/ b: G5 x: T- egood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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- M$ j4 y+ C9 i9 Y' d我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 0 g# G0 K! b  m0 m( `
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀* P# g* T, o; c& T7 ]$ W
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:* B9 k. i, t* Y. a% E$ c

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.$ _  F# x2 f- e' y7 o6 J

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:- _' @: S  ?2 k  @' u

3 ^5 ?+ m2 l7 {哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.7 c# {+ R2 l" b- g( |0 f  g6 f

3 {; f  E( L5 S! k3 H3 i' K0 J哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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/ v, @5 N% A# [: U5 Q+ |/ }0 ^' [haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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# |- M" x! j2 ^; p* A- h& i! Fagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO ! x1 G: M3 |* k  K2 ?* s4 i
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
: q3 S8 }3 Y6 t: l3 Ybesides, crap! interest to ask u
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