singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".  A+ j  b6 o6 K1 N5 s# t6 d* D

; d. D1 G1 e$ O: N0 V相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:/ Z5 a, g$ ]# ?8 t. ]; b7 d- U: l
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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psycho is hard~.~
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i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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4 w' F# D" A& N/ X( L' hgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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  _% {& E  `9 C7 S多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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) Y* V9 T6 h) J/ F' _) s) x我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 % n% [# L3 B1 v
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀+ a! y5 S# g# g

2 z& ^0 x+ }: |  P6 R8 }哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:7 U) {/ t7 @9 X# b; I, H- F5 x; T

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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.% s2 j2 I0 I2 S/ X

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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um...
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8 X; N# y" ~& h2 ohaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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. |3 v- G9 P; u% ~% b哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.! P$ ~/ r+ ?. U+ T0 Q  W
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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& d" x$ m6 \( Z4 e, q! }  W你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:# A# k3 W1 p, k, s
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9 |) T4 Z7 w. y) [haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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8 @! T0 G$ b( s) f* jagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO   V/ n' |. U- d1 _: G9 Q7 R
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!