singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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) w6 l0 M# s# ~, z' _; JThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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! o+ W: b( D% o0 v+ J相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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) H  d2 i: x9 Z) V就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:  d# x' T/ U* K4 G0 |$ Z- ]

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me& I* E, T; |5 O: p: }6 v8 W4 t1 }
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:! y$ L! C3 J& S' \
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣; [7 R' ?) m, Z% h
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
( ~7 ~2 X9 B; i% b  I- R0 b; }& l5 {以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀" r) z4 L, M1 _, q( E
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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, _* S! g; Q) m5 c' h& d( ohahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:9 O7 S- ]6 L/ n5 b4 `+ t  w( a
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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:! s6 I0 |) W5 F1 H; t8 n
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.) O# ~+ x/ K8 l9 w  v) H+ Y6 ?

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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4 |3 T$ w1 s: d) J' v同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦% ?) Y% `" |) y/ I1 p
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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* Q& j+ W% [, Y6 Mhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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' h# L5 R- Q9 x7 h4 B* Phaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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/ [) H. u/ j& ?. M8 eagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 2 ]7 l* M( c) N- r) _) Y
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la0 ?8 Z$ u% R3 q1 c  o$ V- o
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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