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Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:% q& y& K9 u- h- A7 ~
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9 I: K$ A; C! MThis is a good po ...

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1 y8 [+ r' D6 m. H* P* g; A7 m多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力"./ o# {1 p& r, w0 _/ f2 D2 s) f! P
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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0 r3 K3 W; C- ?例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
2 F! L- l) v1 R; Y3 i- U+ e4 D) L會考就係最好的例子.0 O. ?* g+ U/ s: R( l* T5 P, g
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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* r, S, \* B) I) ayes, i get yr poi ...

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0 ]0 I, F4 \5 T& F) {( P0 s+ C3 g. Ipsycho is hard~.~1 ^6 \- c* _( X2 L% y
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me3 U% L2 Y3 }. _2 [3 O
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:' N& {" W4 D" J) E9 H$ u# T

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1 Q$ v  P0 e% C5 q! f- L( H7 Z, Q- o多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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1 H; l, Q: e% @" u' ^! }1 O$ Chahhaa, 不用客氣- B, s  o2 ?5 E. B; e" e1 _

& l, g  W8 G( i* S! Q我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 4 Q6 R: I: i( U) o) c, h
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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1 I- j7 d* B( H4 h; K& Q哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:) z" R! D, K0 N( Z) S( ^

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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/ s/ _9 ~5 ?2 B: n# L5 g9 m, ^# _haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:. e! w  T+ ~' T5 |

  B4 z7 T9 |7 n/ k! {4 q1 z哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.: _; @$ m4 p" [9 N7 D: T( K# E

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; P/ T' ^0 P" I# d  g哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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! D/ p  y! t: d! \) C4 T你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持7 B& G  W$ w  I1 m/ H$ F
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:- o- j1 E+ ]: `" ~0 L2 b
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8 V4 U1 o% }& u+ E8 Thaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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6 z$ z- O# ~2 x" nhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)1 S8 u; C- A% ~$ P: N7 v/ f; q
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: q! `0 [4 L2 y( F0 {. Fagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
% Y5 X4 Z, Y; h9 I# c. Q  i8 i6 hGive it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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