singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:# ~+ P) I* K6 c$ b, ^

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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力"." _- k! ]* v9 ^& g3 S" K, ^

2 z* M% u) R3 Q* m# P, i8 ~" I: ]相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".: W) B- V6 d1 b1 s% c' K1 W

0 `1 f: M+ L( L4 q. l7 M例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:/ U; b8 Q! z& x; I8 U) R$ K
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psycho is hard~.~- e6 W" o8 [0 D8 C
haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me, L& \/ z4 Q- O2 f' L% u% v
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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0 g+ g, G) j7 `: |* dgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:/ l: H# E( R# z6 ?
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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' m6 O8 l$ W0 ghahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 $ O9 L3 s/ x' D# {* f9 G
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:3 F/ t0 `2 n7 ~' g* }( \# r$ B

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8 c0 V% F. h1 w哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:4 I1 l& U; m7 ]$ E7 L9 Q

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0 C* B+ d; [- U0 S1 Dhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:  _4 D3 L+ X& x

# c0 P  D; T) [0 \& W哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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! y5 I% V7 m; D9 g! v哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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" V4 O9 D" y" l: K" g& f哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢" j0 v2 `2 H: N* ~2 h- {+ U

9 a3 p! a5 Z2 J同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:/ \% i% l# u2 Y9 Z' B1 X

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)6 M1 R6 U/ v6 q3 E
pls enjoy
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( I. n2 s- v: N. ]# qagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
4 s: i' A2 e' XGive it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
9 B$ e# s4 O. V9 n* w/ |besides, crap! interest to ask u+ S# q$ F7 p  @7 L' |) e$ l
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!