singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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8 t+ `/ t: ?" y2 X& x, rThis is a good po ...

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( {, l* }( Y# \6 ~: p0 R9 m$ r多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".' X$ U7 D. W) c: g3 E

0 m7 {! G! p, Z. f0 u; r/ d. A2 |2 t相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".* @: D- Z  m  E. `- x# l

" H) n3 c! q- a例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
+ p4 `1 B* [0 u& A會考就係最好的例子.+ n3 g0 n( l& c8 G5 _4 K
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:0 x1 s( h5 Z$ I4 g( a& z, O
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um...
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# w) U8 ~6 A, O) l& Q2 L; k0 [haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me6 e- W! h/ c" j( B
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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" Y' @. N9 I5 e: b我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 5 u5 s7 }  i7 s) ?
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀( R1 O2 B* `9 j" j: P0 O4 Y
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.- Y( x8 [; f' q) b6 s
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:) d0 c0 N4 A% ^- p
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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0 l% K( Y1 L/ f; ^# t2 @; h哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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; v% b) F" a' P" Z" M2 y哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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! L/ T+ [% a4 [' o, b' o哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦' I. p$ F: y7 W7 X# B, J- ~
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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- ]: O# _5 ?- e% t) [haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO # E$ l' i. Y7 t/ Q
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
+ y! l  I" w: V# N- Z: e0 Jbesides, crap! interest to ask u
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