singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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7 |1 `5 J  w4 w5 n7 ]6 uThis is a good po ...

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. q8 E, o, i9 s7 w多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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1 b, R5 |* J8 n, w* b8 Y- ~4 W相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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$ B' U& H" ~: t1 o例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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3 f$ s6 \' s( B) S4 G, ]就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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+ F% }6 t3 s; u) @! Z+ ?yes, i get yr poi ...

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) z* H3 j2 A% [: G4 A4 rhaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me
6 j9 q1 W7 N2 R5 U$ Ki'll try to think about it more deeply later on  \5 s8 y2 `! n( d" w

: i& x+ O) z1 Cgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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: q* e+ ~0 g- Y$ f多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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: |5 J; s0 o9 u0 _  c3 V# d9 thahhaa, 不用客氣
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/ n8 h' K2 r6 C8 B8 @0 W/ m% x我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 : J/ N& S& |( Y6 U9 l
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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* Q: p+ w! K- Y& n  _6 K哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:5 {% l% m8 \- b
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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8 n) c4 K9 u4 m8 \; Z- g. I# }% nhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持* Q3 J% w& Y% D+ S+ l
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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5 s# K* @. l& A: khaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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& d/ z5 y: `% `+ k7 {- y5 Z  Ohaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
0 D2 U+ {9 Z! W1 kpls enjoy
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$ B: ]# @: z' z" tagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 8 f8 Q/ o9 e0 F- O. a7 I
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!