singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:% i# ~/ j  s/ Y6 k. A
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4 Z- m* w% k% f. ^, b% Y1 RThis is a good po ...

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1 n7 g7 k" H. `8 D5 J1 N9 D多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".) a# Y8 e3 C+ i$ `4 ~' a
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%4 C- G, Y+ B5 p0 G6 E3 R: ^4 a
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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7 g* x! l- H5 Y7 a. {  B4 Q- Ihaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me/ Y; G, ^3 f- R$ [
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:, h  a$ j( m% }4 c$ R) I7 X  d

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0 \& K8 R3 R1 l7 W3 N) A% g多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 : Z$ f. u$ P! Y3 C% l* e
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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! c1 A2 N$ G( c2 chahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.# B6 D* P' r! |7 g& p. H) v

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:+ Q2 {" {+ L* r3 \, m. |, M
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psycho is h ...

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# P& ~$ }5 s5 lhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:  P$ X' z/ D" \: [" F

3 ^9 r, w3 x1 J. ~1 ?  C* S- K哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持) d' s- O8 w# W+ n
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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( g# R4 s; O) |$ w' _haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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+ \" b. O& w* B- ]) o& lagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO - w1 X! B0 a; u
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la- \- g" [- \# |
besides, crap! interest to ask u5 o/ Y$ y' b, M6 q% q
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!