singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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This is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%
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1 Y5 Z: ~/ K! \就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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: v1 }, B( @% X4 khaha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me$ `% e+ {7 F/ |6 u- u% o. G
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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$ `% F$ D8 m- r/ l3 Xgood to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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3 {* H; u9 ~. U  L, w. Q$ _) X多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
' {& p$ P' [9 K! V& j: u1 ^以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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9 E) Y3 t$ i; u1 ~# j哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:: ?5 h4 u( N1 q  O

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1 w; D. z4 I0 p哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.; ]! |+ a! s& M9 N. |$ q

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jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:8 z! Q4 }* u- ^6 S0 Z

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psycho is h ...

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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.1 A0 ]! t/ \" L6 Q
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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1 X& L: _' H% K) M3 Z0 p  S* |1 fhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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haha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)9 Y$ u/ ~% |+ q# @0 b( b+ y3 d6 n
pls enjoy8 @# F, u6 s9 T* w$ `* Z1 ]& W
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again, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
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jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la* ]8 H+ u2 Z4 i9 A2 F
besides, crap! interest to ask u
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