Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:( n  I+ y$ @- ]- `
我係一個連自己都吳信的人4 N7 ^3 y, T/ p7 r7 h; F- J3 v. L
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' n* L) l* M) Q8 f/ x: u
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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# [5 U$ y% V7 `/ @1 Y$ M. _Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!# y' V& M4 n- |  d

8 ]  k; V5 V& @  ]% YNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' B# `: e2 w3 z1 G7 ?4 z

/ Q& v' v3 M. |6 ^9 ], `mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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# b+ \, G) |! q! J! estruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
5 ?# a# A. ]  [- d& n' Hcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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因為我是情感比理性強的人# S% P# [. t2 T) O7 o
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ z% ]/ [3 }& Y以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
" Q( ]  m: r: {" w- n9 }9 n9 s在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:) [, T# j; @' ?! I5 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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, @/ F* F3 ~! m, G1 k! V% c  BJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., F. i$ q) E& N& b( K
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# H8 Q" h8 F# m
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"' f& \# P; j+ c
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
1 X, k9 N% Q) j, M2 bbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......8 _+ ?- C8 U: j' d! c0 {% z2 H8 n1 ?+ g

2 Z  v/ M" Z- G4 j/ O5 ], |. Jit's starting because we have sins......
  I5 Z' S0 r' m. ^6 P, csatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
5 C) \% v5 Q& c5 c: }our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"! o2 r( C) H/ Z8 \6 k( Q
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
$ k% v% L: s+ w用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; p) g- X' z0 N( i2 ]
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
+ k6 x! h" [  n" T0 I如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,3 m5 |& r1 v, N9 q, h
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,( p/ T3 G  Z  `
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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( A' B4 J7 g, w6 n0 @/ M1 c一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,- b3 M* h+ T9 w
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法# ?& {- i9 m4 B1 |0 F: A
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...- i& x3 i* e: I: v* r  u0 m
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具6 C! G1 f5 V- u5 k3 N% r
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,( D  V% Z. p8 B5 {# ^$ [+ E; O
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,# a& p0 }0 q# N: o) r
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤: I! ?4 P7 Y$ G( ~6 c9 T# B
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm, d0 x9 _- c/ n
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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" L1 K2 p* i9 z0 @9 ?: y3 m8 P3 h4 Z不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 a3 b" q. B9 M. U
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
) H' ?3 j- r; W.............信耶穌... ...

% A! `# F  p& D+ f6 z" g1 GRegarding the resurrection..../ l2 U3 R5 |2 \

; y6 {- U+ \6 b+ NActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.