Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
7 v( z/ z( d9 |4 D) I. h我係一個連自己都吳信的人, V4 \7 k. t% [* e. ~, V( j) h( _% H& m
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
' A( c& n' v8 G* @: {道理我知道好多只係做吳到
  K0 S4 q. |  j( \+ C3 e呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) G+ I9 D5 [; g. g1 I( M% a& f/ s

: F! Z% u% ~3 F6 UNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 \- f$ B% h- ^8 m- G& B9 h

5 m8 L2 ^8 S& r2 [mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...., y# l: ]: a# n! h
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
8 ]# _! V4 U+ z3 k# @- T! zcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!8 `% r+ F8 K$ t" t' t
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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% j" n; X9 o' v8 I; m因為我是情感比理性強的人) g, s( W) @  I; V: v
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 d% |$ y/ g! B$ {% j8 u
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 T! i( L7 J, k: N$ M
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; e' |5 Y/ b* T* x: }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" O/ i) N/ M- y: }What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ( @4 Y7 q6 C% t

. R9 c; c7 {2 I* ZI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; F# j2 U! ?6 D! W0 R( H; h+ Y
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
9 i5 m( _8 V8 K2 e1 b7 @建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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; z. v$ E9 m0 U% B"不信也沒損失": x6 z6 j+ U& P( D* h
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
7 z! t9 L  j4 D8 C' @but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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$ o3 p" c4 a$ O6 c$ E3 V9 kit's starting because we have sins......  p6 I( z# W8 c) B
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us " K, o0 \6 D/ j+ P. ~# s; X. S
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 e6 B6 d6 P# _  K# ]$ F
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
9 V% U0 H/ F- T+ i. ^/ d7 L用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
9 C. W3 O6 L! w+ Q# b這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! E6 A, T. i, {3 @  n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,: D* X) q& q$ `% q( V
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~4 |: P5 R  f# p' k: _) u/ B
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 N0 ^) m+ d' e. T
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...6 v3 \8 I8 d% a) m5 K( R, b9 v
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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: g# I6 |% h( {$ T吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
6 ^) Z9 ^0 q4 N0 o, s1 P4 j1 X信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干. D% w3 Z$ s/ w

8 I! q& x& P. S' L7 C  H以下是其他人的見解,
9 P0 [4 h4 \/ Z! x0 ?看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤7 y. n5 N& s# h1 n
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 H! F, {% i" o
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!: R: D  Y7 G: u0 q/ c

4 i, E2 D5 }  H0 w/ D9 Y5 E6 h我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 C7 N7 M4 \# S$ o/ C. t
.............信耶穌... ...

, Y0 z& j' V$ ]% x1 l; _Regarding the resurrection....! p) |* z2 r8 r% B- p' B% v% ~

, y& j7 a9 }: @& wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 K& [+ F  o  ^+ K- F" p4 Q

5 W9 Q5 M9 z3 ?9 ?( @0 b& cYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.