Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% i; Z' U2 b/ a: z0 I
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 R* K  S9 C3 s又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 [* Y# H* {0 B9 x$ g8 Q8 @& ]& Q1 W! y道理我知道好多只係做吳到- R4 X* J7 J2 f' v3 s
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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' ?: z6 F* p3 d4 |8 A: S, Q* ]& wNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; A: i/ |  [" |1 J
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...." {9 l% K$ Y" a1 d" I1 Y- y0 J9 L. E

, t5 M0 L* U( o, o( K; Fmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....1 j$ Q+ ]: r4 B- G: T2 W
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....; W4 z4 I* I) x& i: ]9 S
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 J( n% O" i# h5 T$ o
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
  ?' V7 u& I; F5 q真的!!這不是反話
/ n7 \, v" k# ^* g因為我是情感比理性強的人$ g2 a  \) G5 r; ~2 c. z
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,. D" S1 j5 Q) V7 a' F% N. U4 b3 k
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& F. \+ n0 w: }$ v/ F( K在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...- b6 V4 k' F) Q- X: }5 i. h
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  @9 R4 y- O; z! I# @: R. H" m
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?) D; L, y* K1 e; F3 z
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread." {4 s4 i* Y' |3 N2 P
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo8 }6 d+ g+ y' M8 H0 q

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 p, V. y. q& i3 T+ }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
7 T) {% F5 F7 YYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) p& F! M  G2 }
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......% j: s9 I: ?* B- H

3 L0 R' I0 `, m- zit's starting because we have sins......( C( I7 d" R" f
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) }, w, Y* x2 D' Y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"6 q- x& [/ s. i8 `
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,6 a7 b4 y5 m- [( m* E/ ]7 N
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( ?. g1 h/ X: K# i; r這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全! _6 w! q' N4 O8 h
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 \, [- r( ^4 c9 t) u0 n而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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% ?! K3 `; O) X. T$ X, N) g: \導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
$ }* c# R0 H+ e1 P0 {" m4 `2 Q好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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7 _* y3 s1 q! s: u4 q4 ^' E一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
! q) r) H) b( e改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法6 k, n  a4 J1 @; M/ U6 o8 k# m
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具* U( ]( F/ {  M7 @/ r
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,+ l1 x" I0 l$ r6 g
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干8 |! o. H- g' m: `2 m3 Z) j
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以下是其他人的見解,3 V& m2 q! a: n/ K
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............9 o3 s% Z& L* y0 G( M3 p; o) ^* l

& Z7 ?7 [+ Z; N8 B0 |信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!* P* Q4 w1 V) |: }0 x

. z2 K4 i0 P. M) l9 a不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....6 f- F0 A! G; @3 Z1 j. M
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 F2 A& K! R. X9 Z$ G" D* j

/ x2 @: m1 y* d( wYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.