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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:4 r& j5 T6 u; x: }% W6 B
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
: t' n9 d% U0 |6 V又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢( Q% {8 v3 p. F; a' h( ?
道理我知道好多只係做吳到# L$ r% j2 r0 ^$ ~6 Y" O! i
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! X9 l7 ^* J7 H* ], f

# E6 d0 z2 {& C2 Umr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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8 l$ w: M5 Z4 R( D3 Zstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  F. V$ Q7 U# K: o" scheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
( _! i( _2 W4 R1 y我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 p, i% x: R0 s1 X' S  W2 O7 C真的!!這不是反話
* I' o5 Y* m! o! \* o7 R5 O8 ^因為我是情感比理性強的人% i$ s' F( X( J6 k# W; W& P
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 l; t* y( S% f# _/ B$ P7 S/ E
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 {" E' o) G( @: B; m2 r9 [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.... c7 @" k# J3 {. E; T# |6 Z( h7 R9 A8 j
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
# m; e5 c3 |! d; P( N7 K/ v" f建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# U9 f/ M! R$ |4 `

' X8 l3 U0 U  c5 XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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' H3 t; @+ i& i" c3 l% }% t6 K$ B:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:8 C4 s; R, M# E; I$ ^1 X. g
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失": u6 l! I  z: c0 `' j! N
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ E% X( I+ ]8 Bbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......' b! M/ K2 W" y0 p" S& Q  b. `
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 Q6 T& f* v" i; w7 @our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
+ ~  Z$ E1 D$ F) b# }: R% p, q只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& q  g. ^) H. R1 e0 L用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& b5 R' O" X: T( N% l$ N! v這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) J* i; h' I& Y. r$ {6 G( ~" \如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ a1 M+ d3 n& M6 @而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,. o, L) Z% X% Q5 Q8 c! `
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,2 N) a& i& c9 s, x$ U3 |
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
7 r& M# W. \8 B! q! m7 K* X' ~改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
1 W5 f; W' @# ]. g. o" W美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..., V7 O# X# F( t$ [9 `# A4 h: j1 z

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! C; h6 k9 O2 N  N吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,2 j( f2 f4 [/ b6 {. j
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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) @  U3 z5 b% l" b& R5 p9 L) ~信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!( ?; f" h% B4 l1 d* Q3 E

; N7 ]3 M- r- I8 @我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
, W( e1 n  P, ?( A9 u.............信耶穌... ...
5 Q- _* Z* c' fRegarding the resurrection....
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1 T( l* ~: _$ g' ]/ s  N1 @Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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