Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: `+ E1 |# G' [' V) {0 s; m3 w) T, K- c我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到  w" r" I, x- C* \: r  h
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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; d( ^, ?* W2 @, Y; ?, BNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; q* a8 K$ s  `! f$ U! ^
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# U  j8 g7 ?+ Y, Z

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$ `# v8 _1 b+ K" F1 dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!! U2 a; b% c1 E$ J  L
我只不過微小的基督徒...................( B; z) R7 Q4 G( v; c* i+ N* B- q4 K
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,) ~3 E! @7 U+ a1 |
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 J% s* s2 c6 W( j" \
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...' a+ k* H& e- L; m0 Q
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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8 L$ s# F7 i. {4 J4 @3 ?+ CWhat a statement we have here?
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# t$ Z0 W9 [$ m8 M7 @& c! k% @Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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0 K" h5 s) s% r" |. k  lLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 z* @9 |7 Y$ q! Q3 K8 E2 L

5 b6 }" [0 o( t1 yit's starting because we have sins......
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. I& w3 y: l' v* r2 mour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"- v% I; j0 x& G. Y# w
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
5 n$ _6 a/ e0 O用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,4 Y9 d8 R) g9 O2 F" B# U
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% k# \6 @5 X. v8 ]7 _  M/ B8 W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 v. M: T! P  r  Y  H
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
) j$ o; A. Z2 x好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,: _% u& \% \9 J) W! M! b& l

" @: f* t, C* T( i1 u一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,- U5 G6 ]( V" G: g' d" K
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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$ A0 I  P$ Z3 e# @宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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1 a5 h' O6 i3 D* c' ]: p+ V吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,0 Q0 r4 g, R0 m  |2 n. B$ F" y
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,- X; q5 w0 t# s/ J/ y) P1 H
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* p; ^) v" N: v4 m0 o% _
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:6 l' h' y6 z  n2 K3 Z3 m# a4 T
.............信耶穌... ...

" u" \2 Q* ~5 I; c, C# \" ARegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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, m: n; s  G1 a' G0 W: P& `. q4 nYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.