Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 c& n* L9 O1 ]4 s  S我係一個連自己都吳信的人! F' K3 n  V$ }- w, C
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ x$ x+ m- m  o* T/ [# P* [
道理我知道好多只係做吳到* l) y, v) }, D; T( M5 D
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 L/ x/ B$ ?: X& j
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
$ J! n1 }. `1 I9 Q6 t/ xcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!, [, `8 \4 y: A5 `
我只不過微小的基督徒...................: P0 B5 o" F* }7 B- w
真的!!這不是反話
$ G1 @& {* D5 H! e( o" S因為我是情感比理性強的人
4 j- j( v, w" j# ^3 ?. `/ w3 m所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,5 i* l- Q2 C( }7 ~& O; M
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,+ Q7 i( u8 X. G* n0 \% @" m( A
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:. p5 u" A& D/ u; Q6 {
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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  X( i# _8 X# z" ]4 SJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? , ?+ V+ N; ^+ u
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.3 S2 g5 B9 W, u8 L( u' w$ \9 [

7 J# }8 l' Z2 l4 ~2 dLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 F4 d- }, I" B/ O( r

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  P" E% X+ R: d' D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"' w- w* l/ t7 p# o- _- `5 w
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
. M5 X! X% O) t, O" h! tbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......" n! x  B' k) E+ Z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
% T0 T% K# ?( W5 x1 S+ {our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
5 |) _7 a2 O: Y$ i& V只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,6 [1 S7 P& ?1 k, U2 k
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,% c# ]  w3 D5 f. W
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 Y: Z) Z5 E7 q8 U0 B如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
0 M8 H0 P- N. j2 u2 E而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,/ }" J0 l3 q( i
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
3 c/ |6 \2 e! n/ Z6 v, `0 ~. T' h改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
" q: m7 }8 I* r$ L5 [美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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+ p! s7 K8 }1 ]7 |% H吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
' Z1 I6 n' s* `$ I2 ~信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,, q! B) X  N' K3 e" ]1 n) }
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 ~( d7 W, m  ?6 v/ v" E/ L
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............9 C# D6 L: r+ e) ^3 T: P& v# z

( e+ y$ V; n  z( I信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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$ s8 a! b; r6 i4 d& I# [* z" M- F我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:. \' Y1 D8 t( ~: a2 i/ L3 m6 A/ F
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....2 O0 S7 b) G/ @. O( c0 @: X2 P

% C4 D2 S$ z6 Q6 ?% o; n5 @; TActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....$ `& t0 O8 y: h- Y  v
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.