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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 i  d  h; c; E
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 z& \" X* z$ ?4 [1 }7 I又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 s; z( H( g) q( B. E  Y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
+ G2 p& W" j4 B; e* |呢D就係做人的悲哀
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3 P/ J; P# z  v( K1 E+ v. cNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( E% m8 T+ G% b- S

* e1 v/ r% X4 y' f) ONobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' ?! z! }2 Z6 D" |: }+ s

; x1 L& O- v) F2 Z5 kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....7 |  x, a* O, k9 S6 u" S- e2 Q) r3 k
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
& i+ K% [6 s$ ~: Icheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!* ]# u  E) K9 O
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ V( w: T8 E% j5 m: b. t
真的!!這不是反話* g6 P0 D6 u2 P" N( W
因為我是情感比理性強的人9 i$ U9 q2 e  f+ B7 b2 [9 Q
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 l, |1 `8 t# M
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,5 R) X$ |0 L7 i) v2 L  p8 x
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ X& q9 Z8 [: v9 t0 b7 h/ x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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$ w* A5 G; P9 H4 I$ k& CWhat a statement we have here?: H7 H" q3 q  y

" o2 Y0 Y# ~* k5 \; e/ p- \% `Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% R! C1 X$ `8 r1 g7 z5 OI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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" \4 ]* X. H7 TLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 B# F6 r4 K& ?- u8 ^% X
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
" Q2 ~) O/ _( i: ^  l; w建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"5 x% k* O2 \  O6 O& Q8 |
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....4 I+ |4 G, d1 E# x
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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* T" B( C5 k9 |# Sit's starting because we have sins......
0 r. K% e, z: M+ asatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us   R) z- F4 b; X! a
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
4 Q: r- C+ P  D/ m  f% @只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
3 y- v, Q0 @- U4 G( S+ l1 r. V! w: ^用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,6 ?, U* U) J$ A! N$ {
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
- t4 [5 X9 q, |# @如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
, |4 G  \8 |9 `; Y而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~; b* `, b) b  u) M( T) O/ b. W

: I% `- l4 E) J7 C5 G導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看," _( U0 e- F: P2 P8 Z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 C( }, [5 }- ?: A) U
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,* O7 z  Q% P* j
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 f- d& C  v( ]1 i1 r: |9 a美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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9 ~# Y) t# V  K, Q( m以下是其他人的見解,
% w! b# W4 a" p" f3 l! g* G- L看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤+ Y' f: F5 s. _1 _, Z; O
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm9 V* D  u% M  ]% W, c
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............; z- @0 A+ F) y5 B! ?/ A8 X* b3 V  I

9 @( R& Q* v5 s' K. |# E* C; G9 V% M信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" t9 u* l! Z+ c
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!) M& n8 b, X# O$ a/ e, I

6 Q3 v  |, r+ w3 a( B. y我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 `5 s$ P6 `" H.............信耶穌... ...
$ _4 z6 a( {) e" w1 TRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ ~8 Q9 q$ B0 I  A6 C- I; r

& B* O9 E( o5 t! J/ qYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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