Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
1 v  r5 p6 w" n; y- a7 E+ M我係一個連自己都吳信的人
1 ?& P, U* S3 z4 h) x2 X$ c: H又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢! Q3 U6 F: s$ M. S" e4 I
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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" C1 y3 @+ W+ [& S5 \2 SNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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, t9 x" f1 a: r5 y8 x3 [' D- n% \Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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4 }" x& m$ i0 _2 y2 j) S/ Umr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ t$ C0 Q) C' C* Xstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
; a% `$ }3 v" Z  J- p/ H: g* pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!2 R; ?* f9 H3 e
我只不過微小的基督徒...................; N/ {+ L( E4 A9 o, I2 V+ H" ?1 u
真的!!這不是反話
3 |. K1 q3 `. u+ z: ^因為我是情感比理性強的人3 a/ O5 [' ^  J" A) r' {
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( f4 ~  m9 f5 w5 g  f: J7 R以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ z( E/ k/ n$ b9 w) N) E在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 D/ f; u2 F& B8 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 c- T$ D1 g- i/ Y, J5 U) _7 tWhat a statement we have here?# W. k! h" `7 O! e* u2 U" s5 d
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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. @2 q: O( a- B2 dI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:/ q: t) u! }% j, Q8 g1 Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
% y  V1 b; e$ R0 d: z1 ZYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." z0 _+ I8 l0 L* v
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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4 D7 v; i% f0 `6 p. cit's starting because we have sins......3 N! U: ]; m0 }0 c$ P
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
4 P6 |9 Y2 T% `$ Uour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"0 E6 l) S; \6 q/ b5 W
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,' p( [! Z2 ^  ]. ~5 c4 Q2 B; V
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,4 a" V- x, D2 u( ?1 U% ^* S1 D* Q
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 T1 t8 i8 b) f4 l) y& E; v5 n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 s6 l; r: d4 c1 R, L' m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~9 m- W/ O4 ^" y9 e, i4 S
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,4 c- d% E" f, l7 O
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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; J7 ?$ f5 s. ?# n, P$ M# ]" W一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,  B( G& [& C0 p* D
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 ]# ^! F5 d8 \2 n& H# ~. d美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 N9 Z/ {/ {5 Q

0 a" O2 t3 d, U. |0 h/ V% u0 k宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,  F2 o. W5 E. D, ~8 V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,, {5 ^" E) j- l" j
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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7 Q% c8 P" l1 |, _* B* X2 Q信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!2 C' J' c" w* t3 V
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!' ]) M8 p" X1 U# K1 u

$ }( Q4 I1 Z$ b4 ]' W' W同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:& f4 S: l3 t! y/ C* k$ t
.............信耶穌... ...

" o/ H3 j% B& L$ {- U1 jRegarding the resurrection....! i; k+ {2 Z5 J- `$ [8 `

: `) Z( j+ _- [( [Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- S( P5 {4 Z# c+ q
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.