Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:$ J. E# e% Z% p/ r
我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 y. }' }& j; V* w2 {) {( _
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢1 u; }" |: h" r1 y" k  @# ^4 j/ R
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
0 X4 K  q# C: Q呢D就係做人的悲哀

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! x# F2 E; y3 H8 i" ?Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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( n- U" H9 ^  w% `' ^7 ]* smr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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# o; t% A/ s- u* Z6 R  ?2 Mstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....3 S; ]5 ~- H2 ?# R9 r$ G
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 c+ d! _  F' @我只不過微小的基督徒...................
% T7 J+ I9 ?5 g真的!!這不是反話
* B0 @$ i% E8 j9 T) u因為我是情感比理性強的人3 C; z, l( j- ]+ e9 ~
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 r9 i( ^7 l5 `1 }% S6 e
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 Z" g/ P+ r3 L) h7 l
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& k' ~7 t  D6 P  K/ V1 g$ ]: y" X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* i4 x" w: U1 l$ kWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 8 y' D! ~" E$ A2 [4 I0 P
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 Z7 k5 A0 D4 r2 l

2 Z# x: {. P8 ULooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 O# w  p4 k( H' H; i
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 P/ b) f# W# D) P! v$ ?5 Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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2 p5 Q) _6 J0 R! g1 h+ f"不信也沒損失"# r- r0 d+ A6 m' s9 l4 \2 y
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
9 ]- \' l" ^/ G% V7 I) Ebut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......( A" I4 K/ x7 |8 T3 b* k+ m
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it's starting because we have sins......9 v! R2 E/ {" }( d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us : ?$ s% Y0 ?4 Q. P/ X
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"/ m  h  v2 }7 O0 q
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,( I2 d, R! U6 T3 r! p) L
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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$ Q9 r6 [' L3 s* T$ V2 ^* G( N導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,) y$ z6 ?! Q8 ~7 W1 h
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,9 ^7 T1 a3 ~, ~  O! D  j7 s
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,9 k2 a' |1 g* k) F$ p0 ^
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法/ |1 Z! }5 F% x
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, }4 W- J! c2 j9 R以下是其他人的見解,0 {8 d+ e: K; Q$ N0 h  S+ \
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* l5 d1 O# P- `; d2 g3 o0 x/ O' {
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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: q$ a5 E1 S2 J; x+ x0 y4 }我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!' U1 V1 }% c; y6 s$ D! _

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& o) }/ X' _! y$ b.............信耶穌... ...

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1 U1 }* T# G% h4 u: F4 K: f+ M/ uActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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1 }1 o& P7 s: L6 kYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.