Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% y2 V( F$ \9 O% o# Q2 }) s7 p" C8 c
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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' u* ]. C' {: U6 i  r! jNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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# f* e/ `: {9 B6 N! T4 c* F$ S1 @mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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9 {/ X% ]$ O$ d* ~6 rstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ P5 a5 f1 Z2 C+ ~, Z3 s
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!$ r/ t% @; W# [( O# j! {0 v, Z0 e+ [
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  {. T( m" J, @8 K5 E) ?
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, ^5 {! g4 i2 B' x4 _; w. g
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 i  J; ^5 L7 u; ]2 W0 l
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
  W6 g7 r( Y- o9 H) n$ ]建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?4 x; e2 F. [# e4 d5 |# Q
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! W# d5 w/ L) `& W8 m" E) u. @8 w
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
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6 R4 a* w& T# T, x/ S7 Cit's starting because we have sins....../ }# T1 f8 j- a  Q! Q$ o
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: p, J- d$ i5 O* Pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"0 Z- f5 |- K2 {
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊," d* A, a: \( \+ P6 r; b
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 W% G& E! x( C, |# c# ~而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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5 b5 H7 O# ?, v  W! C& }5 `. G導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 Q# H/ Q6 X! h
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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9 r9 m! w9 \; u$ |信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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3 {! u/ }5 V9 T; M, s; X我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!2 q7 a* L9 m" s4 r" ~4 M  E

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....  n8 ~* o5 K+ H

; n  O  e8 L, y1 n1 uYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.