Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ O; x# v7 A4 ^& X( d我係一個連自己都吳信的人, U' U, a3 Q$ w$ H* C
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢  z% q% ~4 `0 Y4 _+ s8 _& y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到' ~5 [, u' I. k
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ Y# s) J- W5 A( l- D% J1 XNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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) W7 l$ \  R4 g  }/ p* W1 F  wNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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$ q3 p* L" I+ \  n4 \1 i4 z- |mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ X) P; b' X0 W" i- k- S
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!! Q. M9 R, T2 e) |, d' k
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
; t( C7 {) h: ]: j) E; M7 A真的!!這不是反話
6 w( L1 R; N+ Y0 J: p5 k. V2 h因為我是情感比理性強的人
( n. ~" s9 ^1 z. _所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 P; c; Y' g+ }2 G* h以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,. Q0 p; x# w0 C
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
; M* {0 `1 Q& _" o1 x- U1 Q  V- J建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ M2 V1 l8 C- F5 |3 w# pWhat a statement we have here?
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# I! h) E( a/ t- \Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? * ]* U* M' O" ], E

. m  R  D5 r: ?6 yI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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% N# l3 {' W4 ]* f6 ?1 B# FLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 J: _/ c9 O" W2 J+ T/ z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"2 j# I9 N% ?8 F, ]+ a  c
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
6 V1 [- x& }  qbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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0 C" l) g8 j( R4 b! G% A2 `it's starting because we have sins......
- W1 r. F; o& y! |7 c$ hsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 5 `4 ]: e' l1 `8 G( q7 a
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  k( t3 v( G9 V
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
' g: z+ D: d4 N$ B用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# m# Q4 _0 E; n* ~" u3 b這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全* Z4 w9 X7 i7 J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ f& w2 K: [" A4 L而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,+ R% @# d$ S2 a0 j+ m& z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
7 A" v0 H) [9 }5 w1 V4 M改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法/ c0 f  R: V$ `& Z. B
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...' o  v9 `4 ^2 r" i% _0 a
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 t) r- @# k. Y$ a- V2 @5 J! M
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,1 R8 S$ L, ?1 P. ]9 z/ d. F
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 t. _1 m6 ~8 R
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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. p7 o5 T& |7 a" O/ y) |" Z我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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/ N/ C1 S" S5 [* ]+ L! u同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, `  ]% F$ j6 k( E1 i
.............信耶穌... ...

5 l+ [; z9 A: x) f) @- z8 FRegarding the resurrection....: ^5 q: m- V4 Y- z0 S
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.