Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
+ C# R* w, @3 }7 v8 o我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到* ?' Q( @  C  X, u. A: R' X
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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& Z3 N# I5 A+ d( z) o, n& i3 RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!1 I, j8 i* j( I1 v( f& [' o  L; Y, _; R4 S
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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- r% Y% K3 ~4 I) G& ^' ]% Xmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...." @+ l4 I  F' U# ?' L/ \! C( T
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
; p0 x4 m8 S6 j- xcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!/ p) l; b2 ]2 r% O$ P# D( z( x/ A
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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# _1 L& K# n: @3 U, V( _因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, p6 v' I0 P8 g/ i) e以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 T% D7 [3 m8 c/ h( s2 b7 q5 q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:' V6 B, v8 ?6 S, U" l% x/ O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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1 ?, u' ?$ R& J( \3 n' JWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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5 M( A! ^* ^& a) d. N3 SI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.8 W& ^% i2 \% A0 Q  |
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( t3 G" c4 J8 ~: Y' u建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* n" H1 Q; \( B"不信也沒損失"4 r1 |/ [3 B% f+ ^
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 ^' j4 `. ?8 K' dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
  k" Z: C+ m% `8 j$ F& Rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
# y' B2 b; z7 `# Eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
! ~* ]0 C, \+ i1 O/ y3 p" I6 Y只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,/ B; I" E8 V$ f. E/ b0 l
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& K" T! j- N& s7 x5 ~; H這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
  }  Z$ ^$ \; {$ k4 g8 \2 ~9 t如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
7 b+ [$ j  b3 _( o0 R2 q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~$ t* T- I  d) \: y3 M

0 t3 U1 l/ Y: U# b6 A6 {導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,, _/ O1 M/ O) o- d
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( ?1 R0 X& A& x
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 M3 \3 j( a: n7 o9 {: b8 a美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...$ {! Y" m7 F5 \4 v! O

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
- R& Y; Y2 a3 x" G信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干0 L4 M% _8 ?2 }$ S+ J

2 M! v8 f3 a& Z5 F: |6 U3 B) Z以下是其他人的見解,: e8 s- L: O& g9 B# \; ^
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤! U$ J8 a+ |) y& B
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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& d. Q7 n. B/ @7 }信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 P# Q7 n& v7 W: {8 c' F
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:) ]: Z5 A8 `2 k
.............信耶穌... ...

6 g$ h& @, G' F4 W+ t' eRegarding the resurrection....$ G: Z9 X6 x" B, I" |
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....' `4 S5 t6 }* r
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.