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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:; Z6 E' E) E. G9 k3 y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人3 v" s+ y/ p# [% j/ C' I  c* O; _0 `
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
3 ^) \/ o, V2 ^; t# F3 m: H道理我知道好多只係做吳到% t4 E& U& S; B
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) ?/ V. _3 t9 G& I& g/ \

: J/ f  [* F7 l" M. F9 n& WNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 k2 g! P( _2 u: J4 K

! x8 U: M$ F+ K5 X2 i/ n0 j, x/ |mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....( _8 F! t: q' \% F4 ^) N

& z( K4 o$ e$ ?$ M7 astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
' N0 S) y3 H6 M3 `/ e* Hcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
. B# t1 m9 C6 _+ v我只不過微小的基督徒...................
/ I8 o$ R& v1 v2 c6 V  I真的!!這不是反話
$ f  {8 v9 j- i: W. v因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
/ s% A0 V% \! F5 I# x3 L以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
9 a/ U7 a# Y! g6 {" ^3 r在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..., u$ \# z+ J' [/ w5 `2 `
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:2 _1 S" C: b, W  ?0 D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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$ ?- D6 q3 x/ i' U! K  E% u" _What a statement we have here?# O/ ~! X7 E, u

6 g$ M. {" P. a" u8 tJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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& |1 p  G7 q6 u* \1 {I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., Y5 o/ F0 [3 G' ^. _

# ^) R4 f7 |, r* N- K# D' O8 @Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo1 `' Q/ l7 V2 F8 D! W5 z& i
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:cool:
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" n; [' A& N( n  l[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:' J4 g9 Q; [, I; s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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4 \! s+ E* H% i0 k4 U" S" m"不信也沒損失". \8 W! Y4 G: b) E) d# b. M" J8 q0 y
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
; C. |- ?5 C2 r7 N) W% V7 z# Pbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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, I: l( ?2 ?& B8 Uit's starting because we have sins......
, [; t7 m' q: e. _satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 I4 F9 o$ S3 h- P3 f
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", X: S7 Q' p# I( n) A
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: c$ I" c$ X4 ]8 L7 S6 c1 |
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
, N5 |' N! i+ G這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全& \2 I  ?- I- M3 p" h' p
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' P, G1 ]% y, a& l5 f3 J6 `/ N' m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,, p% P% a4 k$ x& E$ H, }
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, A( s& ~& j2 D8 h; ]# ]
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
% v8 }+ k! q0 M5 u6 U% H$ }美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...$ E2 Z& S  v0 m5 e
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具. g  \6 O5 t; g' o
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 a7 V: A5 O5 a4 O9 A9 b8 m信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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- B5 W6 k# T$ o  |7 \* ~以下是其他人的見解,
; [/ H0 G2 u1 g' t$ [" U看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
( k: j: q& R% T9 P) V. \5 z- o" ahttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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+ D& i3 O- H; ~& ~5 P/ ?" g: `[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............& c6 d( l1 f! Y% B: b

- J; A. [2 B6 x信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!: a% s9 e  p9 V- n- q; _( f
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
/ l% i1 N' u4 W; ^3 [$ R.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....5 Y7 z/ ?/ ?% Y& |

$ Q7 o- K7 R" Z2 YActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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' d' K, a/ B0 Z( ?, @8 w. z: mYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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