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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:  g& R. Y1 o' h0 ~3 _& Z. n' O( y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 |" B) v) p# n3 o6 R
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* Z# p; L* a( i; B/ |7 Q! Y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到6 V6 ~5 N: R7 p4 C
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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* m. i7 U5 ^; U7 I+ J6 FNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  l/ ^0 K* L: j# G# D" @
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' {% W# f+ s+ G- z4 g

2 L5 m" V, q* a2 N* d2 D: U/ [mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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4 \8 q1 K) C7 K" h+ ]7 Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 p7 b+ B% O6 G7 u) s
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
: [$ g, F. c; K; d. l1 }& t5 X2 e我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人3 B; [4 Y+ y( i3 l7 G
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' Z- z! {; s$ j! C9 Z5 g/ ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
/ _) }: y+ P# Z( C' T在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& e, L: c( f# z7 A, P
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?' n' e) e) W1 t* e$ I# p
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # l+ I+ }- l, J' J  U9 h  R# F; p
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.( Q/ x4 Z( M$ ^1 \' u* ]+ s) ?1 J
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
$ c( m% ]- x/ t8 W! W5 r建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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8 H6 m) u. D$ Z* Y$ r' Q"不信也沒損失"
  G  t( D- _; O) b5 N4 N3 B, H/ [$ J" aYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 u  _8 S" {% p4 A2 i& A- P! qbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......* `! g3 }+ G6 p+ Y0 ]+ W

- w7 I/ @( `/ V4 V' Ait's starting because we have sins......% k7 G$ e, ~: S9 H* `6 D
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
# F% W4 _" h/ A  nour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", T" n' n& r% q, K$ C9 s) f
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,- L- K3 Y5 z9 \+ o& K4 C7 L  `4 @
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,7 J9 l9 U/ I7 g
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全# Z5 R0 _. A$ ?& _
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," p% k, }7 K" Q! |
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 p1 H' O8 J4 T, H  {% f+ B9 |" k
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  H; ^- q' i- f  s& H, o6 u
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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4 a% K" w( a2 C" ~" Z一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 g- o# `3 X7 |6 G0 [; T7 Z- A
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# z, p- v8 x( V9 D/ G
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干* Q/ I$ ~3 H$ O3 R

( f* f6 v2 Q3 Z0 X以下是其他人的見解,1 Y9 g2 S! B( H7 x8 C
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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4 h$ I( C# ^: F/ |" Z5 ?$ [" V信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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/ g2 i# G5 M* F4 z0 [' V$ z不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* w5 X, {4 I; ?' r* y; x

- [$ t/ H/ S2 K2 J5 [我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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6 }; V7 d; ?& ~( `' [- u& H5 e同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
, l. x- y1 g: u. K.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... M1 N* Q& F: ~0 v/ U

' q2 T- l) k" P  T7 t) sYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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