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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) k, L) G! m: O. M; g/ s3 t9 E
我係一個連自己都吳信的人5 `8 |1 y3 B" h$ O6 g" `
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢% T6 r* K7 Z* |. u" T( I& b# N
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- L* o9 y( I1 I8 H: q5 L+ ?
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! c, M; t" U) L
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!" H  ^6 \* k! H$ a8 s! h
我只不過微小的基督徒...................# d( }+ i$ f, l4 s9 q0 R- F% e8 l7 Q+ H
真的!!這不是反話( y0 I- H: w8 @( O% C
因為我是情感比理性強的人) k# E. @! L3 G9 H5 y, A
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,2 h& o) f) j+ p( p
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* X, A  C2 r* D, S( W
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
2 Q% p# T0 W+ D, M. v, T* m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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, k# z. a/ [. c% v5 O# ]) x. rWhat a statement we have here?
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1 g+ w7 k) @0 Y' d% UJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ' V/ M) }# {0 Z9 G: F* l' D
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., j( d2 ?4 y8 y0 i) ^' ?
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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- `2 N" s6 x/ Y: z3 P8 F& M[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
, {( [- i5 ^; x% o/ n1 Z7 L建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"0 F* u! T% G  s9 K+ O( _8 A* z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
8 \' Q+ g* |% L) B* ]but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......7 ^/ v5 W! C  Y' B3 [: R

3 k! T$ _2 s, L: wit's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
' K& B5 w2 l1 L- `只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; X* c( @/ A. p; b; X* A用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* x( w& i' |9 Y5 N. ]! N這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  k0 N1 m9 ~0 M4 G9 V) i+ |# _
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
4 [4 e. e9 Z" D2 D% _而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. u$ {" C2 o0 \: D. y- q好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,! N7 K! u. K" G. k- d! x5 {9 @# _

( O7 e: b% B8 J; O6 q一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具# W+ M1 t% I% N8 j. i1 b* Y

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! A+ m% W0 J2 p) c" D以下是其他人的見解,
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# a0 ~7 w( U7 A- ]! x9 b[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. L$ Z- Z) \! J# O" G7 u, d! E

! d* ~, A  G- B1 Q2 m不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, p" Q" q% I; [. N

7 w8 p/ f5 r7 B4 A0 u同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:; V4 F+ h' p5 ]# ]; [
.............信耶穌... ...
& K" q! ^7 t  v  ?9 p3 J$ @, c# ZRegarding the resurrection....
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, e3 S8 [; M& W5 EActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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