Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 ^4 F3 ~. ]& w# j4 F, ]我係一個連自己都吳信的人4 P, E$ d5 E3 w" K
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
6 H4 e/ v. h# w道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 A1 Q- t$ c6 G呢D就係做人的悲哀

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: f% o# j, c7 fNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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, c' V( i& h" `" l- ANobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...., I! a. I7 O2 h7 ~- T" i
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..... d2 O/ z2 _# I% R+ F4 z' l
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
: j$ X' x' I8 |' o+ _- Tcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!/ D, k* d% B, W/ u7 l
我只不過微小的基督徒...................5 [5 F! X! V$ F5 @2 Y
真的!!這不是反話
6 O  }! R( v- B# |) b因為我是情感比理性強的人9 \! O& s3 _8 j# O
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( H/ x/ r% \' ^" D以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,( N5 d0 [8 _: t6 a
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...4 W( T  _3 \5 n# K' C
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 y% P1 |) J, `: Z/ R
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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, e( W; b) g, o" M2 A: y& E- N& NWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.9 {" Y7 U- D; ~
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
' Z# |6 q  x9 J( ^' b7 H( A- p建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....! H4 w$ R- G) Y  {6 d, R5 k6 j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 M- k5 O1 V7 o0 x$ Dit's starting because we have sins......( }1 l% ^" p2 i4 f
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
& e: g+ h3 g- J% o! Nour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% J& j' l' w* {
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,( R, Z# Q' i' o, N
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,/ j3 f& e! g& d
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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) ]5 D  x5 A6 l  \7 o導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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# X; y1 U! |) `- Q8 W一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
8 `7 Z8 A5 e, U2 s# b0 Z$ }) l改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法, p: J* S/ k; z, I
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...6 o7 E; m4 e" }5 i  d  W

9 U& c) j7 ]$ G9 U2 ]& `宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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! m3 d+ L+ S8 a! p吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
5 w1 a, p8 s9 z' `% R信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干  i9 O! t9 h4 H: K7 z& I
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以下是其他人的見解,& K, W* F! a  x% m0 E
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤  S* X: D! c0 n) `; R
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............, U: P2 F+ |% R. k/ k: L
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!4 \7 u% x& a7 \  {0 R' c1 w# ?& ~

1 j( S7 O; x' L7 c0 ?2 o我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ J' a& |: H1 M4 y& d

1 Z9 r) A8 W) y& v, y同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:7 E! K7 e3 _% p$ w. m: f; ?
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....  e$ F: |' f6 P# ~- K' U
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....; {3 g& H8 q' ~8 F& r
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.