singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:) ]: `9 |6 F4 L8 q2 Q' I& \
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This is a good po ...

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7 ?. k. i: c# I; W* H$ Y, y0 a多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".. {4 I3 z. X* S+ P9 n
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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+ m% O4 q/ {  |4 }; A2 v2 E5 d例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%% x9 `5 _2 n4 U8 z: u7 G% h  e
會考就係最好的例子.0 k- t  e" O% u
就以會考數學緊講, 有d人真係唔洗溫書, 做幾年past paper就攞個A.

奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:
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yes, i get yr poi ...

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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me* X, A% O; z7 k) `2 R3 Y# X% ^
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:
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, ~3 Y4 P. @1 {/ D2 `' l; m多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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hahhaa, 不用客氣# Z9 A7 R, F; R; ]

9 X1 j( ~( E, }8 L2 e4 l我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了
: A, z* R! c/ a* j2 Z; Q以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀5 x8 B( T) }! e' L% ], `$ o9 l. x

2 l9 p3 K3 v0 {- D哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:
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hahhaa, 不用客氣
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我 ...

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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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% `# J3 I$ E! j7 k: P% Y* |# \5 i% x哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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2 m. ~0 W( {" k8 ]haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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* v5 M3 j( |$ \4 ^哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢$ Z* ^* A7 a& `5 S

7 [  A1 }; |! l. S/ X同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:
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haha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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2 X. ~6 h  _: E0 ^5 x& Bhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)
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/ {& w3 P' {9 {0 iagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO
0 o; L7 M6 p. d3 s9 YGive it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la; U5 `/ ]2 m/ b. G- y* `
besides, crap! interest to ask u$ W6 R/ Q5 z/ }; X, F" C# s* d6 V3 K; H
which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!