singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 12:31 AM:
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5 Y0 ]# R5 ~6 M! u  c8 tThis is a good po ...

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, "努力"係指一個人無論做佢鍾唔鍾意的事, 佢都會全力以赴. 好似<長今>咁, 就算叫佢洗碗, 幫宮女按摩, 佢都全力做好. 呢d就係"努力".
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相反, 如果一個人有某方面天份, 但佢只係在這方面"努力", 做其他事就求求其其, 甚至有d事佢應該要做, 但係因為佢對呢樣野冇天份而唔去做, 佢都唔算係真正"努力".
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例如一個科學家佢對研究有天份同在這方面很努力, 但係佢表達能力極差, 如果佢唔"努力"改善表達能力, 佢都唔可以將d成果同其他人分享.

icefire

我覺天份90%, 努力10%' s! A2 F! v* e2 d
會考就係最好的例子.
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奇

有天份又努力再加運氣就更好

crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-26 03:00 AM:: ?4 {7 D: F9 x/ y/ d

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yes, i get yr poi ...

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um...
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haha, anyway, i can see your points, especialy "hard working can be trained by hard working" the idea is fresh to me' N+ U! Z  f* R/ E( i: n! y
i'll try to think about it more deeply later on7 e6 @% ?: _% R6 y( ?" i, u
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good to chat with u, more of this kind of topics will come, see you there~

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-26 01:57 PM:7 n' W' ^$ [, |* n7 w$ z: b+ B

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多謝哂. 在我的定義中, &quo ...

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0 u$ ~# G$ d. f6 M! G. f& p我明白你的觀點, 在小弟的定義中, 如果一個人平時不努力, 但遇到喜歡做的事會努力做, 那也算是努力了 ! i" t* ~9 O6 i$ S
以追女仔為例, 一個平日多懶的人, 也會出力追女孩子吧, 那也算是努力呀
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0 ]! Z) B; V. K) M; l/ b, X# D4 J哈哈, 有少少離題了, 不過最重要大家傾得開心

singdotcom

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:44 PM:4 U* ?6 t; q. t4 q- |  l9 f
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8 {1 r9 @5 L* M4 e; a8 Ehahhaa, 不用客氣
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了.

jason williams

Originally posted by crap at 2005-4-26 11:36 PM:
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psycho is h ...

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, y  {8 e& |& T! _' Thaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

crap

Originally posted by singdotcom at 2005-4-27 01:53 AM:
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( g2 r+ U8 x7 g; Y) s哈哈, 做左咁多年人, 我一直都冇咩用腦做人. 你出呢d topic, 正好比我"努力"訓練吓d思考能力, 組織能力同表達能力.
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哈哈, 我都有少少離題了

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哈哈, 你努力時可能會發現了自己的天份呢
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同類既topic會盡量日日都出, 希望大家可以一齊用下腦袋啦
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你有無試下答大義滅親果條呀, 都幾好玩嫁   <----- 哈哈, 剛發現你答了, 多謝支持
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crap

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-4-27 01:54 AM:5 i7 J4 T& W, C
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+ E" w0 _0 a  E) l: Lhaha.......ho ar, nice to chat with u2, especially this kind of topic

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* k+ C' S; e& k8 o: yhaha, me 2, similar type of brain teasing topics will be made everyday (ideally)7 y  }7 g6 g: {" [  H8 B2 d" c
pls enjoy
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, ?+ w' Y; v8 @; X  Z: g$ bagain, have u tried the 大義滅親 one? that's quite funny IMO 9 R+ R! O, p9 O8 L* h1 G) U
Give it a go if u have time

jason williams

haha, leave jor some comment about it la
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which faculty u are studying, u seems interest in thinking and doing research on social, psycho and philiosophy!