jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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$ z$ T! b. W6 g( x8 `3 ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; f  `2 U) W5 H7 i4 i7 vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  @" c8 Q! `8 \" N/ N9 C( t: Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment" W) `; m" L- q, I  C) V% E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ H6 n' \1 p# |$ Q& Vbut why jesus need to do this?: u. Q4 C6 A. A- D
punsihment for what???% g- y$ t8 u' i2 x9 [7 i! O( p: v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 h$ d) h3 D- i1 O& q. m: V3 htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- D8 t) g' K2 n; }+ O* a" Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( q2 M  h- f, m6 P: \
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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( k0 n5 m4 p% ~4 dyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排' v) t8 v$ p0 C6 J/ X
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ C3 i8 B! W  J: U* ~
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 j6 K! l* i. D- g7 B' G6 J  _& ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. K: T3 a" f% `$ Q( b! [2 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 ^9 n" ]4 V2 h$ e: n9 I4 mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( c, ]) d! {) G$ v. Ibut why jesus need to do this?! {/ L: J) Z; |. M: o
punsihment for what???/ X: E' d) l3 Y: F' Z# d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* L' F  E: u$ ^1 b6 j5 etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, ~6 K: v& s$ w. L! ]/ I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, d  Z: o5 _/ n% m/ J+ g4 O" @9 @4 ^what will u do???
+ M* q+ d# v, G: Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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3 p) U: l8 `9 G+ y3 x. s1 Z0 ]sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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8 ]9 a0 R& [5 c' l) N6 v* t好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 R4 R* [0 c# D2 S  `, }6 l+ c議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( a- j; o# R* w- q
honestly, if there is jesus
8 s* h2 P6 N6 vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 u/ G- o9 `. C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 [, c2 Z7 J$ n* K7 n/ a

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life% ^" {* v5 w3 {2 h- h( d4 ]
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& {4 s( X1 V* B7 d! m( m$ P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# O% o0 y( W9 K  O- Q1 B9 ~9 Enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
4 m& O, u) l$ a7 @bro singgeihot and rest365days$ ~& l( f0 r* O: Z7 g
honestly, if there is jesus/ s0 V" [1 P0 M3 d8 |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, |( Q0 W* M- ^- M: Q; {1 uwe can't blow him :cool:

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" L) l7 e4 T. f$ zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: L5 @! O  f" o" S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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