jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
) n+ w" f" ^6 R$ T* `仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架3 ]& t1 p  [3 l9 |1 }
...

* s/ ?% ^: |1 _3 |# Z
9 A% g) K/ C% kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 t% z! q& }. O2 C1 c# ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! ]0 R! n, g2 t% o% w9 p, gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
5 Z5 x8 N% e  A& y4 a6 Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 G2 s- ~) t2 [2 c6 p: z: p8 ubut why jesus need to do this?% }; {- M) M. J) X% x. q
punsihment for what???6 \1 A% l- `$ m  T6 r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 D0 c$ N# F3 ?7 M  F& c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# Z$ x# m8 X: x- Z9 D3 N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # U$ s9 I0 F) E& b
what will u do???" q7 z7 q* ?* Y2 W# t+ j0 z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
3 o  F7 z; B1 y+ N  e2 v
/ P% g+ n) {/ d% K0 _6 N; q0 x
$ \, q. A* a0 {6 l/ Y) ^# p0 n! _) Vyes, what did u think is what i...

  c5 c. b2 X' R5 u0 o% n$ B$ v
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' H' r$ z* o2 z3 Q$ v/ v3 g
  e5 P4 t/ A! K+ v9 e
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 v9 ^, C2 F3 `& q6 l

5 J8 B* F& B3 w: K咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: y1 Z" i# A* ~- Y) _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, z0 h  s3 ]1 P( L* e. [$ Ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 f8 _: y6 f( S5 ^- H# ]: N/ `
why this happen? just simple........punishment: k; s; G4 r2 u, h$ `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & x, ]3 g  M9 y4 f& s3 K8 q( c
but why jesus need to do this?- V/ o, ]% y2 I. |% I
punsihment for what???
& E" i8 z' ]$ p; D6 Y+ p, bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ Z' i7 {6 P! G9 c' v# T
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( g9 e& N$ V0 a. M5 t( N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' D! e/ Z1 D7 g1 u' Wwhat will u do???1 _7 I6 L2 I% d/ i! f! ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 4 e% L9 w) T3 ?+ Z- Z4 J, s! }

5 V( K2 L5 O" W+ W3 m7 x" p" W' S" Y5 R! J  Q* s2 J" q
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; }3 S* S5 ~8 D/ i
) n0 C4 V0 l1 J: A# u! p& B
+ N& B7 `- u6 K
bro, did u know that there is a...

! ^  ^2 Z; \5 p: M" D5 ?8 F9 Q: ~6 G. X
4 t8 z. W3 q5 @
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 B2 ?- H9 P9 A6 Q* j

& U; w' v* A1 |0 F+ s" T# [' W議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: w" ]- }- z4 r/ E6 \honestly, if there is jesus
# R  y9 Y4 t1 ~* v% H0 z4 `  Vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, {4 h) l: G' x0 a& B# R$ Swe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. @% ]" Y# f/ X* V

+ J# z6 q/ O/ Y- _. t5 D2 U  ^7 I3 X# l& K) c5 e+ O, a7 i6 K
' G. M/ ?' ^) A. w0 Z# ?' w. K
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

  K+ l! D" F* N) h' m; i4 f! X0 z( n: x0 j& C
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. k& X$ Y$ J  r' e; q. E3 H0 m. M' ?2 gjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
, R5 w, G$ [& U" J! W) Vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......5 i) A5 D. ~0 w$ ?2 A1 S
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! |) p) {7 E  zbro singgeihot and rest365days
" v; V. M; y$ k4 _6 p' h: V: khonestly, if there is jesus, L$ A  V$ E. E. r3 _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# K( `8 Q/ l2 [9 n& t2 O
we can't blow him :cool:

) Z2 M  r& r. R( `7 b! q
, p2 R2 J; @3 s. L/ ^( |9 n: S, y8 N
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; u& U% F) C6 P' F, }
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 M" I4 B+ I* A) }3 M8 V, u4 O( s" u自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

5 i/ g: ~% C! [+ z0 N, d8 F5 e% x; F, k8 k. k# t  R
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: