jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ ~& y( N: n, D4 |0 r$ ^; L
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架3 Q4 ^; X0 G! C; i/ E
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5 v% e: k0 o  T( Y3 \" _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 Y& @4 Y# i6 W8 A! s; D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ j) ?' {7 g, H  N( N
why this happen? just simple........punishment
3 ?2 a3 }+ |/ w6 v6 amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% B- r$ ^: t) F" a: j8 P" O) Q9 Fbut why jesus need to do this?
5 Z6 Y! \9 a: [+ R- Zpunsihment for what???0 O' U, }( _: q3 j8 F
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' p8 J5 `6 w' G5 U" G6 |- T7 rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 K/ Z! P: k1 y3 R5 w8 D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 ]$ J; ]; P2 p" d8 Q0 s. Y
what will u do???# s1 Q* i5 a' l) C( \8 h
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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. G4 f! T  \4 `咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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6 I% ~" A8 Q8 o; W6 ^2 n5 P但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: B- i  y+ b! o# O$ z/ o9 Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 M8 K% @# b+ ]. }( D' J' Acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, s( k( W9 f& a" p' Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 C& i1 B) U. r4 R$ o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' S; d/ u" v2 n  K: A, E- u- J
but why jesus need to do this?
: n9 P7 p6 r1 D8 Y" wpunsihment for what???
2 x- u, V5 o& X5 u% z3 Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: W( I7 Z4 p% V% T8 \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 |0 N+ z* @1 O4 e: Q5 _. m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 |" T$ ^$ v7 ^$ {0 V' n
what will u do???7 t  t1 C. y: W; {, i' b
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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  J) ^  Z- _6 ]5 {- bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! o6 O1 M0 \1 z5 G5 x4 }: tbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( z5 F: m; \- \6 H
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 Q# U- q, v  ~& B* `# D0 {' c
honestly, if there is jesus
  v% d; |3 K, v2 B  W# D/ z+ yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 q: o" p- R6 |* fwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( H4 t! O, @  ~. \9 L; h% t) e8 l
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0 ~# \0 f. {9 {) Z6 ^2 O2 u4 Eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, `" x9 o1 b5 i/ k4 d( \just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' Z( ]0 f- |  z' g/ N) |so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' Y/ M+ O) Y" k: R3 }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 }3 ~0 ^7 n5 X1 Z9 n% \. n8 X& Qbro singgeihot and rest365days" _7 A, q( b& y! F8 z: Z
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 u7 k4 y- P9 l' Z) Sotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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+ i) }! t8 F# I$ ]! chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: