jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" n' H5 o7 `- E1 x+ J8 @, O5 A& a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. e/ k1 x4 T7 L" `
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' Z0 U4 R& g0 Xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( {4 s6 P# I1 }7 h
but why jesus need to do this?
8 o' C+ N! q( R2 q* Wpunsihment for what???2 R' s+ a5 N" h& R1 z1 X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 o9 Q6 k1 [! {咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 |- L' Z7 s4 j6 o3 d1 Y" f! b
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 f2 ?2 F, ^9 X0 L5 v5 o1 E
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: ~4 w* w; p' L3 ^: \$ Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. C7 h& l7 A" G  q# ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) z% c( S. K; d2 L' C! B# c. v/ xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* k0 V1 p* X* b9 H! M0 G# W% H* Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ G4 a# d! \* o  g5 z' ~7 y/ q
but why jesus need to do this?
/ r) h  o% u) G) @" Wpunsihment for what???8 v+ h6 @* t0 Z/ f3 j% O
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& j1 [! X* Z6 g' U8 x+ }/ btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: n/ r7 M- j8 {' ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' D4 a( r% C, |& L! L
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! B% D3 o/ M1 v# i0 f* m  Hbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
  }, V" w& W& [honestly, if there is jesus
3 q; \+ Y7 W) T& |& T5 T: g; G9 ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ u% |4 A' d- @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: i' I! Y$ k; }9 Y) t
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus0 f- N# ^* n0 Z3 b5 y" u, n5 V. I
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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. Y  F' G7 o% D2 S! Q1 v; @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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! a% B  q' e3 K7 y2 Qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: