jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
9 |% c5 U+ _# F/ e- N& T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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9 w+ D8 f& u! c; k3 Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ p; J8 o2 {0 G" Q6 y  |( G7 ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) |. @" c% z" X5 j) l+ s3 Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' w" z& U4 o* w9 U, Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . O" ~6 u: m- l) N
but why jesus need to do this?) N3 U" b5 I1 _5 z' g
punsihment for what???, A! g+ [, Y8 A
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 K- F3 v$ g# l8 i4 A6 q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" c& \" b3 G5 E: i( v- Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 M- `/ |1 V9 G( g
what will u do???0 S" Q( e" p0 \; a9 ?0 B
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; ?7 e5 N1 ^$ H  J4 ~
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! V3 U3 n8 Q4 O8 v! l7 w& }
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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  ~" g6 ]6 N0 N1 l+ Z* A咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* @4 G( u, w5 W7 c$ {bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: V# T, @6 J$ h6 W* z  G* y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 n9 i4 E% G3 g8 z% b
why this happen? just simple........punishment* U# D8 ]) p  a: A8 v' E8 A3 W& ]% s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : P1 y1 P' d1 Z: g
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% W9 \3 F' z  _' k' ~2 k2 {( ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" Z; ^" l3 [4 I5 J! K$ n$ cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ |0 w$ B4 ?4 {( K" k  M! w
what will u do???
9 D8 C4 d- y0 o) j* X3 ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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) ]6 D# H  \( p/ _7 wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 ~: b1 b0 z' B% F0 j& |
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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  Y" c8 n- d, @( A' `4 P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, \; i8 p! V7 `: g
honestly, if there is jesus
1 ]$ k: g" P9 G( ?' Y5 E0 H' ^he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 p8 s- F2 g6 R! V# P  x0 J# d, vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 n1 `- ^8 H+ `- w/ R2 D' qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
: H! A& _6 s/ s: ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' O7 l3 L, Z& C7 w4 B# xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; o" g+ c5 D/ x# j$ V* c; o- q* Z# O* T" R6 f
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ d; a. a- r: q- ^+ A
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" r( L1 D. [# \honestly, if there is jesus' R( e9 h2 e1 v1 F7 u0 r, [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  J3 Q- r# D$ X$ [' swe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 j& R3 w- p. t, A2 k7 E) U
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- P7 V6 ]' P5 Y' u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( x4 u. u5 P# [) L" nhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: