jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# y1 }/ z- x0 S! k3 H5 f) R" Z仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 \1 [. U& O+ B2 [, t. z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, @& }& X2 P2 [/ l( Z! Vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
8 O- y9 J7 y+ ~5 h5 Jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( X- j) T7 Y8 S7 v) R' Jbut why jesus need to do this?/ a7 U" |+ V; ]9 [/ Q
punsihment for what???% r% P. o+ M4 ?( S$ H" e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 `1 C( C4 M3 {" {& V: \7 \7 k; c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* c: N. ^; A0 ]8 Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ e, }! w2 G* Rwhat will u do???' E: G9 ]7 D. X) j& h+ c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 K9 L* q# z# h( @# E7 E+ J( h

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. T7 {' C3 t( ?7 M4 H; E* N, d- kyes, what did u think is what i...

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3 H( S6 Y# x1 _! t. a; B咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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/ l& Z6 k" L& y2 Z+ K但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( ^- x2 G) }/ v1 }3 e7 d
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ \0 K' J4 ?" I+ w" z- d
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 `3 @% P6 R! J7 y/ z: Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( `% c7 z" g, N. r
why this happen? just simple........punishment) o, E6 N! K& Z# T4 o
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, z  o; o) w) a1 jbut why jesus need to do this?
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1 a2 B$ S2 M. r6 Z& vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# Z4 i; C7 o, k$ G( h0 o" f+ ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% Z# F0 W. a# |2 \9 }* d: u9 Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, _. j, @7 d$ T' [* jwhat will u do???
4 @( p6 ^# J% |3 mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % T" L6 Z1 }" s( P

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* V" r/ {; l# ]0 f! `3 Wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ k1 Q& u$ U2 _5 v3 ~& h5 v
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 e2 o+ [  o4 t好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 T* q( ~9 i: U+ M
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ Z- H+ p) M0 a% X; {3 E/ I
honestly, if there is jesus
6 y* \. t0 e- V9 [0 ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 h1 p- e$ j1 K4 A- dwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ k7 C4 u! e9 j  x

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5 N8 }# a( s6 |. Y: {4 c" nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& V# N2 \9 M  b, `' L
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it9 }0 s; N! U& m) l! M$ ^0 @
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ d/ L/ x; n! {5 v
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" b8 o; R" `- t& X% h# x0 }7 y0 j
bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 g+ r4 o3 h  Ehonestly, if there is jesus3 ?' o$ t8 |0 B5 E
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 x9 t1 e$ X% f" p$ E8 Hwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& e1 O9 f1 _, p; j! Z- D" n
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 J) Z) G' ~" S3 D, z6 A( \+ G自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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  t$ V: r( v7 g8 p+ b  {4 bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: