jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:: I0 a: L( d) i& p, P, W
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 U3 \2 g. y$ E) D
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% v0 [+ K8 e& r3 [' A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 J' W6 L0 N' X, Q# jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 J/ O. U) l; ^, y0 Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 ^9 ~+ m8 F* j- }- {) j2 z
but why jesus need to do this?  l2 l, H0 V% e# V
punsihment for what???
& A$ z2 P3 o% l3 u: Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; ^5 z3 q0 v; P- K& g1 S% y9 O0 T8 T6 mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. s$ h  r: s" w1 l3 u
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:9 l" t& E) ]5 |1 _) }: U( x
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& E0 f2 C8 S) j" o) G8 [
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. K  d! Q8 r6 {  C$ t

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; V6 r$ b4 _/ U$ l( H
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: D& q) n4 `1 {3 n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 f) J9 Y( `- z7 L+ V" [2 mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment7 [# N5 k1 T! x! u
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + M* q9 o  W6 Z0 o1 s
but why jesus need to do this?5 L5 M" F3 _/ D( l
punsihment for what???3 \$ T4 w* a4 g, q! [$ \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 A% b* _1 y4 f+ ?6 n
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* E0 w. [* m. _$ _" `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 }' v/ X7 {4 c& v% @( [
what will u do???
+ o: P: r5 n# h3 f+ @# Y" Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 L& a; X" ~# a
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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: Q) o; f# N$ g1 v7 m議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
& v- q4 h/ C, \# m2 g# [, v! Lhonestly, if there is jesus
" B5 Q* S. ?9 b2 o3 }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 M$ D/ e/ c% Q/ F# ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* Q7 |7 N7 F% Y
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 y  z# U7 ]" z6 d3 P0 y# Cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:0 ^( w; a4 L  [6 h& w/ ~' i; |4 J
bro singgeihot and rest365days
# p+ I  ]- n0 d. v+ shonestly, if there is jesus
4 Q( q& J7 Y' g. X+ V5 ~he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 L2 i! H* Y# R+ s& y. r' T
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
! m: j) D+ ~( u' x6 b. u( U自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, n* }& D0 n2 F/ nhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: