jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ B$ y$ v3 c% p& Y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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- n: G! r  q) b* h, ]# vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 M* Q3 N  p6 k! U7 x, s: {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, {' v& c& j8 ]$ f! D8 n
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 `" S; d" D5 |0 M' ^" {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. V; ]( e5 o2 q+ P9 s: xbut why jesus need to do this?% R1 g# w( D9 T7 s$ u9 ?3 ~% @
punsihment for what???
! G: D4 o% H0 Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- O8 S/ S  K$ h3 i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! Z0 F5 n2 Z( v0 [! i9 ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . v' U/ ~- r" J1 e# z6 s4 g+ d7 d
what will u do???+ L8 g/ k9 q0 B. T9 E8 M1 r$ `( V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- e9 o( J4 _% o) C) W6 W

3 j6 Z: O+ {) d# d+ x但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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& a4 |$ j3 A. o; t4 z+ G6 \咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, |( y& X5 Z1 h1 v
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* n% V6 L0 w: E/ b$ ^3 i1 k2 e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- d% B3 B* [  }7 i% c8 U+ J. Q/ @why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 E' P. S. a& E/ ?* |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, i1 ~1 a/ U% \1 `( Q1 i" @but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 ~7 j$ q7 Q+ M# Q* W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) \+ j' N2 e- D+ N+ K% [0 vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! _  [& D6 q4 E" n0 |, Q2 \what will u do???  Z. @, _1 H/ `) e8 o2 K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " R0 W  k+ n7 W! e' l$ y" @1 T/ f3 i

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. F# v- e% E& |+ t9 rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 |! `* V4 f: ?8 M0 i7 p1 x$ B

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! O  ]1 s9 C0 q& i; ~" K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' y( M4 r' i- j6 R9 @# k" E
honestly, if there is jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% o" b9 S9 p$ w0 T" \+ e/ `
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life  z9 |) k( E3 L) Z8 O
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 o/ c8 s) h+ D0 T6 B9 ]0 T" o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; E) A0 w# y+ Q/ ~4 ?" m5 S
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
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% [8 U9 K8 g0 ~( `, u' W  hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ ]- ~+ u5 G. |' c) G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( O; f6 c; L+ ?  H) I
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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6 O0 J: S4 s/ C) W8 {" ], v, z  y. Lhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: