jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 F4 i; A+ i8 b, t6 }5 Y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ F; @5 O  f% V
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( A+ J  B8 E0 d! j$ U( S0 ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* D; ^  P6 c% q* `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ u7 d: Q& u+ a' Z* p/ t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# b, U  n3 g6 O, Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 Y7 u1 H0 O+ Cbut why jesus need to do this?- w$ |# X. X: C/ j5 n
punsihment for what???
. _- K+ c: E2 X& dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; z& T- Q8 L$ T/ G% V& E8 m0 D. U
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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' n: y6 R4 d  }3 N- m- \3 X" A) F1 w但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 y  m5 X/ G. t9 w* p6 i, k

, i8 [/ V1 d4 X咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 }* L- d' E3 F8 n
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 J* g2 K0 n" ?  ]9 Ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& q5 T# ~! t( twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
( t; a" d$ w2 T9 \2 x( b& e3 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) _$ f& A5 q, Z) I8 d  Q% ^
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; w9 F. D: i7 u: H5 {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: V7 p5 {0 [4 ]( z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 ]' \# e5 ?# _
what will u do???  n# _9 ^. E. S) |" |! g) S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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/ ~: X1 J$ z4 O$ M* |( nsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: S* M. ~% W8 P- M/ J0 _# B$ _3 i

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4 C4 \' `1 B+ l6 ~/ @. U$ lbro, did u know that there is a...

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( t4 O9 J6 F8 X0 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " {) N; C- g% J$ i' U

9 x3 Q& L. w; s% P議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 S; G* B1 ^. r8 i
honestly, if there is jesus
( M3 ~' r% f' G1 f! R* Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 `' `% J  U- t% ~( \. d) Z2 h! Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 W  H  B& @8 ]* a
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: ^) p! `4 {5 A$ G, B+ n& P6 A
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& C1 O* v7 y" N$ b1 o6 {4 [
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* \6 x" F1 z2 _, b/ {* y' \bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ ~2 u6 `7 i( A- R6 w) Thonestly, if there is jesus
3 p7 F3 K3 v, E" U* Zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 e! {& F) Z; i$ l; R* D
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 B/ E: S- L  Z2 y, Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  x* I' L! Y2 m6 }$ y: q2 R( Ootherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: