jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) S& e, C! `; w" w* j3 V# |8 w
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& [& S9 n( y  f; e9 D8 `& R# A. O
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5 |6 l1 m, Q+ E* xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ S. A- J! f9 t" x4 g! vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 \8 M' a# Z; A# ~/ s4 Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- {& u/ ?, x$ ^$ Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # \( c" f' b7 R
but why jesus need to do this?% r1 C, ?2 [- G+ N! z9 j
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& G6 E: C4 F- B) P

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 k2 B, }. Q+ M8 z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' V! l" l) [7 ~0 }4 i' k4 I$ C% L4 scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, j# v2 z: w; G4 i  Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment- K  \6 v8 n+ L: `2 F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# B  o9 G; `& T* |- e6 Ibut why jesus need to do this?* D$ T0 s6 B1 X8 ?/ l; z
punsihment for what???
# K% w+ R5 L7 W" M9 x% a2 u. _8 Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 o$ o$ S3 @" j: G6 [. R% [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 F, g$ C* a% ?9 Fbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + ^% V  Y0 R. K
what will u do???
: x7 g0 N6 L, Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " H5 C! g0 E9 `/ j# [; j, K" r8 {

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( u$ a; E- I, ?% i, u4 h' {sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 \; x3 S; I, U6 o( T  `bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 N# _) c! L  l( N$ p0 F6 Whonestly, if there is jesus
3 \, z, f& R, q" P+ |7 a8 L. jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! E( ?* z: F( d( d4 b7 D* a
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  l, X4 \+ F9 O4 F
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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$ `/ u5 u  h1 }7 D5 t' syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 z0 }, _% I9 ?$ {# \/ v
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 g( n' q% `# t) ^$ `3 A) E+ h2 ]4 nso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& [3 a; x+ i6 H7 C7 e
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
3 I) F6 M+ I/ z; z/ cbro singgeihot and rest365days
2 q, W/ Y. d; T+ whonestly, if there is jesus
1 D; e3 R, }: v, k/ V! ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% X! S  n( I' F7 ^9 Swe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% m( ^% M+ Q+ r3 O7 n! J- u; e; v$ q
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 I; x$ |+ R. e自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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