jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:2 V9 n, W" ~  q& I6 Q
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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1 z& a- \7 s; R7 u+ M  ^bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ V+ x$ W* u7 L  `7 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ t! v3 [1 _  K5 Q+ k' P1 m) |why this happen? just simple........punishment
, X' f  ?& M* |: l# H' Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  K; y& B% o1 H5 H! xbut why jesus need to do this?
2 j! e8 g* Z( A9 Apunsihment for what???+ S* o) r7 F1 a9 ]6 b: r# a# h
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 c$ _. ^- ?8 |7 W; [6 t7 itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& {; K0 U& T  q1 G# P* H1 e  B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & t( x) X' B7 G  `1 E! i% Y' L& Z$ q
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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' L0 h# K7 g7 W1 m/ Vyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 O2 C) c1 `) m+ Z6 l  U
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% S, @9 Q3 }# E" ?: ^& v* g, C& N! y/ y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 l2 L* h* c/ p& P7 C/ k0 d! O  ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 I. d; W9 o; A" Q2 k" |/ I, s
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* j: A" i, C  A6 `5 g$ b, fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ c' C0 x, {) g9 nbut why jesus need to do this?
; [, t0 X) Y& p! }0 c5 }: epunsihment for what???0 ~& S7 C* e7 u- R' h& k5 W! h3 q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& {- c: n6 p; x1 Xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ `" A3 |/ r" n& B% N5 A% [! mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # `" J3 k- F5 E" H! {3 U
what will u do???0 S1 \5 I' D. `5 J
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& }( O) U1 v- }% Y+ }+ v

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, I! F7 V, [" X& X0 Xbro, did u know that there is a...

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! ]) B5 e3 ~0 `5 J4 A( s好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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- h* G5 c' w; c4 W9 E$ Y; D議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; I' y, P! ]% p6 f% _1 u. m* f# P
honestly, if there is jesus
  N3 L2 }5 u+ |4 S5 U$ s# _3 dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& P3 F" x: z- X2 `2 awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 w2 b4 v2 S0 A9 X
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 e) e# q2 |% }9 D8 J9 H) |& c$ i
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
1 w5 e1 P/ J3 k) W, K- g* wso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- ]& H- |: V+ }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ `5 a7 E0 e: g# E, X' @3 gbro singgeihot and rest365days
. t. B- c- X: d, m' B3 Bhonestly, if there is jesus
; J" R" g1 h+ Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% Z1 }8 Q$ x5 F* c/ x5 Jwe can't blow him :cool:

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& K" E2 |5 A' }* ]understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 ?8 j+ z2 J/ Z7 i, eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
* q9 I& _4 E) s自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: