jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
# h8 g+ d) v; \" B* _! T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ s9 o" h. n# R/ Z' k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 a8 u3 p  a  K3 T
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 G7 P" U! J2 Z* T1 ]' y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, a; R: |" w6 c, r! {) q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 p: S! C+ ?- p3 |# W( F+ u9 ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   J" M( m1 m; M  _. z" A, n* Y
what will u do???1 g- g. m4 Q% ^, k$ @7 K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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; g4 \4 t% v7 d/ D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: r3 d9 l8 H# _  b, Fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* c9 d! \& n. W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# c; s$ I: A9 }: R3 C% }  c2 o$ hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& E7 g; T% j; z5 b4 V$ K7 amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' y3 J& }8 z8 P: k$ |
but why jesus need to do this?
3 r* _. S, y/ }, f. R2 Qpunsihment for what???
. R7 Y. C) g0 J7 e5 d9 o4 wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: A- V8 c0 I4 e% L8 `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ c/ K6 n  ]3 @1 C6 i( Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + J, f/ K# K1 C: L( _, C6 O
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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. }0 L. t1 {" Z  ~% ?) _+ s5 `好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : }% r& S- X! M, E+ G% |# v/ z
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 s$ |' ^) A# p8 t
honestly, if there is jesus
: L# R  p( r2 T' Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- k' Q6 l9 @1 K  k6 O
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 c: D6 E( H7 e' j% `
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& B% t  Z0 F1 P9 R
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; f# a9 p8 j% y( w7 X9 i$ H
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 W. M% I& ?1 A' k- w# B/ M1 }
bro singgeihot and rest365days" ^8 l/ Y( }! q% `
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:7 G0 ~, k2 Z# z5 q4 u/ ?# G+ F" B6 J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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- O! Y9 [. z4 @haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: