jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  I0 Y$ y5 Z6 T5 `% X: b- V4 `- d0 q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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" c& R' M0 u- @& m, Rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- j. ^5 {% J1 gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 b& ^9 s0 L( j! K! @% _" Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
6 d2 H$ c  h9 }* v. g, V4 smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. Y: J/ X) T/ t. b0 I" wbut why jesus need to do this?; ^( V* D  d! s$ {* f! O
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! p4 n2 l! Y  X1 M' g& x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉- S% T0 I, [" a2 t! ]

; F$ p& ?" i3 Y/ U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: S1 ^# j0 H! d. l% T4 L' A: v

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# {8 U( ^6 C4 f) cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! `, n1 l/ z% q5 F5 k9 e8 D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 q, o& ~0 d& D  U$ e* S. ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- H  W8 K& f% d7 xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - {: J+ u. K8 _1 Y# Y0 u; O8 T% S- T
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 W3 N: e4 h+ w+ G; [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ q. u/ s5 R( c' g0 g6 ~, [& ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 p; F0 u2 x, ~/ W
what will u do???. ~( p1 O: S( ]2 V% d7 Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! Q3 B6 L  ~4 p, z( \! M

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 I4 J& M- F- T) Y! Q5 T
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . P  C& W- x/ v
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 g# d) x. M; Y, M- [honestly, if there is jesus
% @  A" v/ S; C/ L0 Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: q! w' J0 D0 K' q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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- d* W+ f1 @1 M* i* yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life+ M' V  H# G/ l" [4 s7 T
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 h) T* e# ~1 x  G1 `* Y& v# }
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 ~0 j0 J8 _7 v( X% E+ `: y: Z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
3 S: a& _. J  B% |! E: S+ n( L* Rbro singgeihot and rest365days
0 d' a" ]$ R3 G, T! Y1 |% yhonestly, if there is jesus) T+ \1 d& L0 @( K: n" I; J7 _( a) v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 `! X5 e# J" E: D! ^/ Xwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& t$ \9 Q: @, t/ ?! g
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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0 A( a; b: W# S# b/ J% K6 zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: