jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:: T; I( A8 V6 r9 B1 x
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架5 h5 i- T  y% t- {$ _4 v& s. f
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; p! H4 n, W8 K: x" e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ q2 O6 O+ x7 w8 j9 a
why this happen? just simple........punishment( d" h1 T! Q1 g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( ^  w  n8 p* G; d# f/ {3 ^
but why jesus need to do this?
/ x" i5 I. \) ~$ x; Y2 {punsihment for what???; g2 G# b( \9 _1 Y5 Q& L7 @
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. |3 Y: B8 n4 H& |; r4 M% o4 otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 l9 K" d& B- L! |2 J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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- @) A* [- C7 O8 a: Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:7 L" A8 L( S( n" q2 s# D8 t( U

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/ F3 ^( r; z. @/ n0 Uyes, what did u think is what i...

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6 {( y- W, ?0 X, ~, W5 a, Y0 U咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 d  A3 m4 z! s. ^3 u5 C
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% U& ?" ~1 y" f% I5 \3 z3 g

0 H) Q+ X; n9 U7 D" x咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. W! p- B5 b% c9 s. t& P$ vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: v. w) P5 ?. j8 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 ^& m: s7 b7 e# B5 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
5 N2 |) o% U; B+ V8 ]many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 M% J2 W( s2 \
but why jesus need to do this?* X+ S7 k" F2 A! |/ X
punsihment for what???/ G  @2 S' q5 v2 l) O
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ J. c8 U1 D+ Q# L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ f5 A5 E* J6 j2 k$ pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 X, K8 p6 Q" |0 ]9 ?9 C" b6 T1 h
what will u do???
- ^) c+ B) l+ \/ b+ K% Vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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! j( e/ y6 e( Q  lsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ N  p2 g4 Y% o! |) D* ]

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 g; _- e! @" o/ O/ P7 Q

+ y6 [+ {) f% z8 G議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% ]  b6 o. O$ b$ S- e6 x
honestly, if there is jesus8 t4 V( U9 \; N" B( s, M/ ~( L& g1 K# a
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 j# B/ s4 g& R% [we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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7 D- ]; h1 N! k( F; nyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 v/ h' H% H. I7 \* L* ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 f6 F% T1 T3 @5 a& oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
+ n" ?7 L) _& O, cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  ]  `! @/ A* j/ W4 }bro singgeihot and rest365days
. ~# `0 }6 t3 H, c8 B" xhonestly, if there is jesus# d) n$ ^1 d9 V1 x
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 R7 T; y6 F. _4 w2 ]" Fwe can't blow him :cool:

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) q7 L; E: _( I/ N1 @# D+ x* o) uunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
0 c% Z& c2 i" Z  [, h$ yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:# i8 s" |' x. O
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 O2 l5 S9 x8 q( U! A4 u9 Khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: