jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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/ Y' t  c' o! G2 nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- g5 h" P  {- j! @7 Q! a  \% i, t  gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; x+ q- p3 i9 G! `+ `8 H2 \why this happen? just simple........punishment
& r4 D, |/ L$ i. S, Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( y% k9 M7 {0 R; C' l7 r% J7 dbut why jesus need to do this?
8 l) l/ \$ @+ j0 u1 Z" p9 `punsihment for what???& H. |, O. a7 |" N' b5 y, r( m; G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( X: p* v% |: J; _( \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- n& [/ _& F3 q1 G) Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 o+ g0 v% y/ u& ewhat will u do???; o+ n9 V# I2 @+ A: k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 Z* T* m1 \4 m1 E: N$ l

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 K  C' O& o' B

  ]" W$ ?' ?7 f! i# r9 O# Q但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" v  B: ?& H! G) _* q
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* \4 M* x; a/ Z: s) ^& f9 W
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' e9 A8 s- {6 o2 j7 C) rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  D. `. s8 u2 I1 [" j7 `( K4 l
why this happen? just simple........punishment; b2 F5 P' W7 P5 ~$ D, `7 K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 j- }1 |+ U7 s9 x' d
but why jesus need to do this?
4 Y, ?% l2 O0 N* c8 T, Y, Wpunsihment for what???
  N( N6 c$ J7 }( Kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 }+ \( {. H8 H8 S' ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, M- n1 [- |8 z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' _3 C9 D  ~6 d+ Z' V. s$ \0 Ywhat will u do???
9 d* g+ _: i1 n" i5 l' k) t" `just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 J8 |5 Z4 u8 X

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, q. c6 c( _/ C# q) |0 R) l
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. B: T) r# z+ \/ Z( j1 f+ f7 n" p( cbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
; n; o4 E' h) K# I% yhonestly, if there is jesus- s- D* }* a6 k6 E! i- u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" d  \3 U! u  N) S4 d: q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 [2 \# D. |' n% [% x; l- I" q$ |

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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% E+ D; v" R1 W% l% E9 Z# Yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' K- o) _/ c1 v
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
/ Y0 E, `- k/ n1 M: L6 }so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# ?1 {6 n7 p  B% Tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 _! A% @; }. Y- p2 j1 X! C7 q
bro singgeihot and rest365days  [" }1 R* ]# _* B0 o0 }
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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/ i" g9 ~& C1 z) M* [understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 X. Y) h6 a: _+ z  `otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:$ A* f* a4 S' j- [- j6 D
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: