jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ r2 |, I8 H5 m, d; k7 F
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架, V5 L1 e) h) L+ ~. {
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9 v  B$ Y. ]# Z0 {" q+ Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) z4 \8 F9 i" E: S1 S8 O, r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 H6 w: v- O* g" e
why this happen? just simple........punishment. y' Z5 F. t* c% I+ q0 ~. ~: b
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' U( n9 e% _. Kbut why jesus need to do this?& K! r# e$ J& d, P* T" K
punsihment for what???7 }' n" {# _+ S/ ^1 |* z9 ~
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, p9 N& o. h# `' E7 w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% s; ]2 k5 w+ D& f  d+ Rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ U3 Z1 N( \+ d. t6 v0 R0 Q5 e/ P" G& @

8 l7 F( i; ~8 p& l' Q1 L  F但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 n, j, P; B1 O( A
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% U% v2 d4 O  M5 L8 m( Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ ]- Q% r6 ]- F1 V! ?/ x9 C. Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ Q5 ]# v" h( ]: H! cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( u: Y$ J; W. t% ]/ X0 Y7 K7 Rbut why jesus need to do this?: r' R, b& X" z  B
punsihment for what???: \% q7 k" l) n7 F( a- m
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ |& x9 ?2 K0 w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# {0 q% T- t+ N5 ?9 Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / L+ @9 {7 ^: B1 S/ m* Q
what will u do???
1 i: V; c% v( o2 |: l6 f, Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + z3 _. U& X* e4 }, G( R9 @

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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# r  W. D5 K% K- wbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 K6 `% r7 d; ^honestly, if there is jesus
5 a1 C, ]# B: R3 x" M1 K1 G* Jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ ]. j9 f" e% V5 j6 f( W. X) q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# m+ T4 F3 {7 J1 R

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8 \5 x4 G( G' `5 ^  {" H$ D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 k- W& e/ o' m1 u; D4 vyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 {" X# w8 ~. }$ a9 r
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
; f, x/ a  r5 G8 qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# W' f$ @& T8 @& N4 L  N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus; `* ]! c8 ~* e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! D  A) @0 N- E6 `2 g" p/ gwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics# g/ t4 f: l! a1 `, M. {/ w
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ b& [3 K6 d) ^9 H$ `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: