jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! ^4 N( ^6 R* u9 q/ T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* L* M/ w- P2 y  ^% W# ~$ G; U
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* @& q7 }+ a' Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. }/ `# m- L/ Z# k5 e6 P+ Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ g0 k5 l, X' [3 _many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + ?! R: A; s; W3 Q
but why jesus need to do this?
$ S  S. c/ V, Q2 Dpunsihment for what???
! H* R4 X" Y9 l( Y$ Efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 p; Z: z- B, P* V" ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( Y# y- s, t2 b& ~/ v  D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! a% B. G7 d. e5 e6 T+ L; o6 C
what will u do???
9 I% j1 U( B, }; |. I  ~0 i. h- @just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 r$ v; s9 F5 J8 A2 v
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- ~8 C2 g- \  j$ x( H; S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* Z0 N9 ]9 M, A  m1 v, X# \0 ^why this happen? just simple........punishment. ~7 M) k) o: N! |8 t0 w
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " o4 c8 [- U8 S% S+ w
but why jesus need to do this?
, D: k4 a) e" j' L, ?4 wpunsihment for what???
/ y# t; u8 ^( i# u# J5 @0 i4 lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 v9 w8 J4 w0 _3 V% t; |( h: \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 p8 q* n; T6 V+ a# p/ N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & H* s2 t$ ~! w7 J# I4 f( C
what will u do???% _. n0 s3 @* S  g0 l5 y: ^( q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 Z- T, B( z# J/ q- ]

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. A9 v% y3 n$ J* dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. J3 |: W; L& r+ e+ q$ K
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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  V1 O# a  T5 u好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ A, r) ?% g" t2 r

. j2 f8 {  F  O) h' Y/ K議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: {5 M' j0 X3 ?: ]% l4 u- E
honestly, if there is jesus7 K8 {& u2 g/ [% q6 v4 h* b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 z( b0 g4 G+ T% q2 \+ l# V
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 _* w. ^; I; `4 H
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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, T! q( ^3 O$ c  i8 b* f9 {4 iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 E3 Z' Q3 @8 G2 y* X# V% H# Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ c. M1 {% N# ^( G
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- h: F6 K% g: N/ G$ b1 ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; b1 `, z5 c4 E4 E4 Z; @
bro singgeihot and rest365days" W9 g0 s  J8 K' K
honestly, if there is jesus
. T1 m5 U" ~/ e0 |1 F: |: vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% g6 K+ y9 m+ {* R) iwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: