jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 A; B2 [; l5 ?" M
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: r5 I3 C: ]4 j1 j4 r( B) ~comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& k. u5 ~1 P9 ~) h
why this happen? just simple........punishment
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but why jesus need to do this?
/ ^* s, L/ x- D/ s6 c7 k$ |$ ]punsihment for what???
; j7 a& r' u& Y/ L5 f4 r8 H( m) ]& [2 }for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- E- Y+ U% ~6 O5 n2 u2 `( ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 j2 E8 U' a% x* ]9 ~; Z1 Ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * k' n' d' S9 ~: N3 p2 L* P, z  Z) }
what will u do???' r/ h' m4 j/ q: B& |( R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 l$ G. ?0 Y8 S8 s2 H4 ^: c
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 S1 R( N" |6 M
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# f* k& v- w' G5 X  Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 B# o6 r3 i+ F+ Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" V) }+ L* ]' t2 {/ ]0 gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; t2 x. `. U# N* O7 N7 R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 F8 D7 t  @/ C7 U$ H
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ f$ o8 E# P: H5 W# i/ t3 W6 V2 a/ |
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 }) `/ ^6 l# h) e( wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 b/ L6 B  ~& V% i; wwhat will u do???, W1 B  V8 g2 H% m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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, D$ n' i9 h% b! C! s+ F好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 B, C8 H- \; F2 [- {" ^

; g  z. R2 }; E7 C6 v7 a$ ~6 _議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% I% ?$ g1 v! G, D( Y5 g- ~; _- C
honestly, if there is jesus
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1 }; ^6 ?$ t" ~) E2 y/ G$ @+ H5 Bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; U: C- \7 X: ^# P8 V# b5 s% a* Z( Njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! O1 `, E- b5 {0 `( g0 n
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 j( r1 p5 b/ f; Xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: ]( W5 B! C/ ?
bro singgeihot and rest365days* B, D7 g  ~( K1 }: G
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
- \* [4 {0 V; s' ~7 Qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 H2 U; c2 `& E; X' O$ L
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 P0 p* ]3 _  Q7 W( {* ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: