jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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7 @9 B5 X5 A8 |0 c/ q% fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 F; g; n1 F7 [2 I; R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 Y) q' I  U$ S9 ?% {) A( \5 |1 V( _
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& d" {- u3 a$ e1 L$ gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  f8 p, u* o, E" U8 Q/ z, Rbut why jesus need to do this?1 U" G" u4 |9 e% Z. x, U5 t- G
punsihment for what???) ?" R1 Z8 B3 b# j% @& w3 W
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  Z! x2 c+ @; M  J+ x* W! {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 m/ _( ^* j5 J( H8 \/ G# U# `+ R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 R7 u' K" d' C' _+ iwhat will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& h7 |. w! v5 A4 p. A1 j/ `# p" V0 S

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4 C8 |* z+ {! q& P2 ]7 }yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ M) o* R+ b2 T5 U8 y3 e

6 m6 e: N3 I) m8 o" k# J2 _但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* g& `" {/ Z1 l# `& B$ N
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 J+ ~; z0 b$ Z  {2 R8 t$ vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 a' O0 e! F. z3 y
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; Q0 o4 L5 B: a3 k5 O* Q$ Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- I2 z7 h) h2 i9 y% _/ Y: Ibut why jesus need to do this?
" G/ \* P! B9 [8 cpunsihment for what???
: Z0 }7 d1 G# R# U" H8 Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 E' p8 r# z! w$ x4 `1 Z- k2 Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 y3 z) V& S) [7 S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + R6 o# |& \2 g: y
what will u do???1 A4 }4 W0 H! d  Q2 k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   e* ]8 K9 Y, T1 A- V* ?! k8 v

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: \8 E) S4 d5 F  A

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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  S$ D. M6 y" D4 I  _% b+ [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! T* S5 K5 q8 R$ Z. B. q
honestly, if there is jesus
$ L8 Q. `" Z2 O# fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ Y6 R6 f4 L, W- O5 ~  ?2 _3 Nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 d' `$ r- Y+ M
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; l0 l1 e' L4 X6 _5 y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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5 ]( [( Q$ O1 j9 s" byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 T1 g* A5 k! d% |' x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: }" v* E% `: |: ^' r* i
bro singgeihot and rest365days% i# _: I# N( c4 u( U, g
honestly, if there is jesus
" h( J" G, S1 I* ~; j, o( vhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 l2 _0 ^; ^) P% L; u
we can't blow him :cool:

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. }' B( X7 a$ t) X( v( aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 K1 l  N' u4 Y1 b- q& h9 ?% J* a) O  zotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  d! M- u7 B) |; g
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: