jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- D7 {# t% T5 ]; g9 ~: F) W- ^6 r
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" u' t) ~# _4 f" A( P
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. X% ~4 f( N9 c0 W: C6 ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: a. R6 D0 w- J, M7 a! I, X! S! gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 A* x8 A9 H9 `6 G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" w" y& \" _* j1 X, f9 `but why jesus need to do this?
! B' h/ ^! K  ~, S+ i% mpunsihment for what???: Y% H# [, K# l+ M9 A( h
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 H. _7 E3 ]0 O. ^$ `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
7 {1 t9 l0 T" j1 d8 g9 o3 Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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  Q) n1 u7 `' b5 [yes, what did u think is what i...

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! d3 C3 g& {- f咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排; r9 O' s9 e/ O2 m* f$ I, B9 g
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 y+ E9 p5 `9 t5 V6 \
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: E9 H% M, O  Z7 Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% m- i3 o6 K" q, H4 Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  _2 t% R  `3 Q* f& ]" vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 ~( L% D% X( j5 M# \. k3 tbut why jesus need to do this?
2 n0 ^! t# @+ A) V; cpunsihment for what???
+ }5 _; U: Y9 l1 Y6 s3 b0 zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* j* O* z  H, f' w/ L7 J2 ?, b# |try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 {* V& p& s! m( W9 p4 ]$ m- S) R: H" nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 e4 m6 _) T% j9 b/ b" ^
what will u do???
' ]0 `! [# x7 H* ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + y3 S2 Y6 I& b9 Z* L: n0 ]2 t

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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7 T0 V0 R5 f" O4 i7 f好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- e5 L/ W; B& u( ?: Z- V0 Y9 \
honestly, if there is jesus
  \' ~6 P3 f% }: M( J( Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, D6 X! C( i& a3 Z2 h( G" Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% k+ [& Y3 d+ {" Z$ T

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 Z0 ]& N, F- ?  k; K1 ~8 m
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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& y  y' }! k8 j! |9 |now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
1 }; a$ ~9 G% z" u! jbro singgeihot and rest365days  [, o5 [& _% J+ l
honestly, if there is jesus
; T' K5 W! y8 f$ Ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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) I3 z' z( A# F( c  t/ W( Q  b6 tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( }- Q. x  {& D$ ]$ Z
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ ~2 j6 r$ `& v! [  m! G8 P  {
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: