jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( T2 E; o& o1 J- Q+ ]0 H3 K
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" }% G5 |$ P! P5 I
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( A: V. b. Y8 s; q5 x7 Q3 F$ `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) s9 q) B3 i# hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* r, H8 ~, J' E9 e+ swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# h& [4 K( s  ^5 n/ h8 ?3 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- R; s+ E2 _! c, f7 Ibut why jesus need to do this?, z# b& o+ d+ P. ^8 ~" ?) W1 {
punsihment for what???) q, n' {* {4 F8 Q8 @3 E/ n0 ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* Z9 @# t: k" |/ `; v3 }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ b( {! x. V# r! R/ E. H' ~3 f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 o9 g4 r; F. ~5 Dwhat will u do???
6 J* ~8 r, c$ W, J' Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" _$ I) n9 j/ R! E$ n+ t
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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- v3 u9 W5 H# R' R# b3 E: z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) X: q% R9 I, @, n7 y; L但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" v; r' [* C: \$ a
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# g/ D, ^5 ?: d( D7 @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, H$ ~4 A( u, ^why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 z& j. n  n6 a  Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + I7 e3 f  y8 V! G: M
but why jesus need to do this?8 K+ j! M1 }; }4 t9 n* B
punsihment for what???
, [% [( H1 J: f/ \/ Q# ?( ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; ^9 e' Z% @' f; B6 Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& F) f& z' N- @) Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 C) }! Z3 g. J. \what will u do???' e, o( r: I" S$ u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 K- f, H4 P6 F6 i$ s" P

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& _$ {: X- u( Q) Asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 z: U3 i5 l' e8 F* V: o# N4 z+ Q好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! S; t$ A: _0 `2 X2 c: D

7 ^& o! \2 X1 d' m  F9 V議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  R# d. x5 V& a( P( w4 X
honestly, if there is jesus
; P7 D& b# [5 ^. Xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  l6 x4 j. F- m6 Y$ a/ d
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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! w* m% F" z5 Z  s. V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! o0 g7 B1 f6 @4 n. |  Eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 b# F4 k7 t; M3 N7 V3 W( i$ H7 B
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it" U) a0 @: b7 H  N
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
/ J  }( ~, s- I/ n" Z! j( ?0 r) cnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, [! E) g& h3 M, b0 ubro singgeihot and rest365days# g( w/ B! o, `) A
honestly, if there is jesus( o  a) R9 h# n+ _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 P" _. a* m0 w3 q" Wwe can't blow him :cool:

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7 k% a+ X+ Z' ~3 l9 @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) l" k& Z2 Q% ]9 r- K' v% a1 J( M
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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& S, x% O- u5 H& |haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: