jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" B7 U0 `  F6 C+ Q, r
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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2 W4 {: y  O9 C% Q1 t  n, gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; I1 H% ]/ s  T: e* S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! I+ a/ l( ^; W! r, q# Q9 f# Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 `: z9 u5 W- j/ D( L7 @+ N' b
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 K; V: t; v& ~8 a1 j
but why jesus need to do this?, m2 ^* S# q( M! E1 l& Z! W
punsihment for what???
  c! r8 [0 }' r. @# Sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 l8 r# O9 [# e3 x% G0 Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 V2 W) i+ T( ?; abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; E/ o' W) v3 Y9 U9 s0 |. ~6 Kwhat will u do???+ I, q1 W1 y+ |6 D# I! [* E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 r& {8 o5 G; C) {5 d咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 Q; N1 M* N* i/ b5 o

: O3 D" @7 b5 M0 \2 t但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" x. ~; t+ i/ {# }0 g) x/ P, S
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 l0 _. N* \) }6 j6 F
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ p% A. `+ T9 |2 M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* ^) R" ]5 ~9 ^" G& Q7 i: D/ {2 l* P( I" e
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% ]9 b; D- Y' s/ g* r) {2 P: _! Jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  R8 N- K* l/ y$ y- C, Mbut why jesus need to do this?
  O0 F9 {- w% e4 I5 d$ ~) s( I- Bpunsihment for what???4 d6 K# U! D( S$ y' \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 q$ R9 e7 S; J$ z3 Ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" s) x# o' {6 p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   x& r- _) ]4 d* R* s
what will u do???& p" ?8 I: J- d7 V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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8 d6 f; n' O% {sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" C; k  i5 w; \: Q3 j
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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6 l" ~8 @2 G( \2 M% V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : |2 c! B: p4 k* a: y

6 ^$ ]# K; Z, k3 \6 ?% B4 I議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: M8 M% Y+ i  c2 a+ Bhonestly, if there is jesus! r% w4 e4 J, ~  E9 U
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 V6 }; {9 V( ^  l* ^+ ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:: \, N6 d" k3 B1 _6 f8 y
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" M9 H# J+ y+ d  M5 Hyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# J# u/ Z! M# o4 G7 q2 \3 F# vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' i" y' G; ^& `  p
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
" a7 ?8 `+ ?7 r/ R7 Y- i8 pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; ^, x. v6 U, T& k% E( A  ]
bro singgeihot and rest365days* K; v) L* ?- T, J
honestly, if there is jesus
+ J! Q) Z! J. [8 e$ N- d# [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 `: _$ {3 W% X' P# [we can't blow him :cool:

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" a) m/ I3 H' l3 Funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 u# A9 l+ w( Z. botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, E; Y# ]5 S$ A( {, l  E* t& l
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: