jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 g) w/ G1 k. Q) G1 B" ?
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架$ v1 k/ I& y, l. Y6 [
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% }2 ?0 m- Q/ t6 obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ K% n. y$ w( ~+ A* F3 Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" w% ^2 W9 ^3 @" R4 ^- v% j  U9 ]8 e
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 u% k" ^9 L/ }1 L" ~) Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , O! E# j5 u0 x; b0 Z8 B* F0 m
but why jesus need to do this?
# ?% k! K/ t$ `3 K" k, Npunsihment for what???
* F8 C" v6 h( g" Qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% j1 h6 A9 n3 \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' Q/ ?5 Y  Q. C! j5 u- v- qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! X. L, h3 }8 ?what will u do???# G1 Q! {5 B  R# M2 o: G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 R, Y- @9 H% V: I* z2 J

2 o% V( {& y; w0 \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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1 d! i* d5 N" s咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. }2 R+ e1 i" h4 D7 m2 C2 s- g
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) U) s4 [5 ~; P: o
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ h6 i" T7 r8 J; s# |, A
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 ^6 J# a+ e$ U8 b0 v; Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . E! N# j! m) C/ @+ Z& V
but why jesus need to do this?2 H  p- n8 H+ f1 f
punsihment for what???+ p; r/ P( n1 Y! T
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 a6 _7 c2 i; G/ Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 _1 F8 p# h- N4 Gbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ z: n4 Z" \% c0 s, \: Cwhat will u do???7 R+ e/ l$ n1 o' d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 b, v+ g3 V/ Q. L2 T) O4 D6 K. Y

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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( }2 G" |+ q7 w) G9 Bbro, did u know that there is a...

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( {# O' N8 C9 m好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ l! e* o8 M# |& k5 W" A
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) \* J5 J9 Y1 I6 M0 d. Qhonestly, if there is jesus! I9 o9 O/ Y$ B  {2 @6 v! b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 x( E4 M+ Y" ]9 o& b/ t8 _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 X: A  p7 h0 F. u$ J# I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
5 {! ?# c& x  r7 g9 Z' l# ]* Ybro singgeihot and rest365days
/ D; k% b4 C* S3 l% t) v5 hhonestly, if there is jesus
( R6 b$ |3 _/ ^7 o' Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  b$ S* T+ D5 _+ i: |8 U, pwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:# }7 f, C  S( ?. `) R* s4 `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: