jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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) l9 G3 s$ F4 h2 d; h5 l! D+ a8 qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% E* h8 [8 \( e( R, R
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 ]  N$ i! I# Kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& o% G# _- g* I) M1 Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 C& @& F9 A6 n0 T9 j  D9 N# Vbut why jesus need to do this?
1 h5 F' O- w+ v! z# o: B6 \punsihment for what???% h0 \* v, `& F4 ~+ w* c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 F% z# D. H7 n% L) B* q9 b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( [; K; W  v8 z2 c7 G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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5 q$ X! c: d$ ?* H/ x: G咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 M$ x0 P5 G- ~0 B
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 d3 h/ R( \$ }* u& v: E

0 B, e- ~/ R1 O咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. A' a# G7 h' G& H
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, o# q* v8 {) r9 |* Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  W& ~7 B* {9 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ P: i2 H- J6 u0 }3 V$ w) @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ E' S' T; x0 W0 b0 Gbut why jesus need to do this?
4 r0 {7 z, l6 G$ N5 F/ t3 J9 Qpunsihment for what???) m. z4 j, k- e  p  J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# X* ]1 ~# W% N1 ?$ Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! {( S+ n' l: y* Xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 X$ |" k3 P; [$ |  vwhat will u do???3 n' ?! f' `, f, x& I3 Y' @
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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, W% M% G3 I" }( H5 b好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' ]- ^" v) H' c2 }0 D& d
honestly, if there is jesus
: K8 i0 Y  c& H2 F! d% {he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- `1 Q' J# }( d% b1 Q; `
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% h- u8 o% {3 ]# D. q
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  u) X) O, E' Q0 Q2 K& ~4 \# f好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 B  y- n  I" U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 F+ b6 v+ @# |5 X2 G6 s$ J' I" k7 S
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& d" \; k0 w* O0 N! v- l
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 W! V+ r  J" i1 c! g! i
bro singgeihot and rest365days; k4 R) e! r: K1 p
honestly, if there is jesus3 d& X  F0 N5 ?# y( F1 O0 u
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 N  n9 i7 N9 L) q  f; |% Dwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ [8 S: o9 }4 x( R1 h. R- [! @% ]7 r
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: