jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 |& B: p+ c1 w5 y4 M+ p! v4 dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 {# c' w! b  d4 `: q2 ?why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ c% }& J1 H1 Y; M9 ~2 V* I, F) Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! o& d. r& b" _9 hbut why jesus need to do this?) W% L9 S& I! c7 H7 s, Z
punsihment for what???+ H' }2 j! e: x# H6 A9 M1 @) o  E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- ~6 |# K# R! A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 C1 ^  M# _: i2 u3 F0 z" |; ]" ]+ o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) A+ _) [- v) H6 L
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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% n& j( p% q; [  R7 {& o5 x" M2 u3 ryes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 t5 H! a1 N% t1 i! U' a8 f1 J2 ~" _8 N
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" R$ B9 E' _+ @) z. F

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. n/ _1 Q+ u8 b0 m
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% g& V3 y) Y. m( q" ~3 k# M5 O4 Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 B& a, _+ u, O2 N* G  k1 i& [why this happen? just simple........punishment; K, u6 A/ V7 ]2 V& j* |9 z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 q4 B0 _: [. {8 H
but why jesus need to do this?. }2 ?( M% ]! h1 N& A* x; |
punsihment for what???9 t' A0 e) _* E& a3 G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' b) q( \3 \2 i+ j9 k6 ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! s- C3 _  l1 l( `$ J/ X) m" [7 E' ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 i- n& }+ w1 twhat will u do???4 N$ i* R. ~% t0 o! e; K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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/ o$ `! X* \: B' K" O( p, [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 - d0 Z/ b% X  Y8 `! e

7 s9 Q+ m" Q! c8 e議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% P" k+ a5 T$ `- N( ]( s8 b5 `* }* p
honestly, if there is jesus  u7 h- {! F% ?9 G- ~
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 l! m9 c; u& c' b. J
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  v; H7 r: G8 U# X, z

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2 }9 l1 x0 a0 X4 P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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4 ~* O6 }0 q6 [4 J. L- [+ Gyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ l* ?. D3 D: l* k( ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 V; g1 o4 V0 F& J; ?so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- }7 J3 V! W1 a5 Y! Ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ X' d. m- g6 j# J2 O# Cbro singgeihot and rest365days
' @- T  N& S; Hhonestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics' e/ `" D4 E  d) F: G3 ?
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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1 j* d* q, Q4 Q+ ^haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: