jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 j9 b. a( K8 Y! Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 Z2 l* ^; y& iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
5 ?+ `7 T- T" y; b% @" vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 N1 r5 o% H3 U; ^; P* o# L  w
but why jesus need to do this?/ Y2 A/ N9 d. k1 E8 [
punsihment for what???7 T) K0 V; A3 \4 f. V) ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ M+ R. b4 I7 u; s' v' f
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 p4 \0 I0 }1 @) r7 A+ o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 d) v, K) [5 hwhat will u do???- z' R# I8 z9 G# X4 G. n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉0 d& r, O( I4 p- C  |: I- B
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 s1 s! j) D2 G2 }9 w4 Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ e8 d$ b# t  C) b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ K/ h5 P, P; c; I
why this happen? just simple........punishment* A, F+ x+ a+ l  |3 Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ X0 m" u7 o: J2 z6 @4 Abut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 H1 [' Y" G7 D# F! O) z) r# stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% E0 a3 ]% e' e. D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 ^- h1 n) D5 g" l- A: x0 s6 R: n, w! G0 {what will u do???& e8 k* L. W8 n  p6 E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. }! H) x7 [- |

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4 W; M* i6 @1 ^: mbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 M& p3 D5 B& }5 Y
honestly, if there is jesus0 P) A6 e% b3 d. b+ y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 f' j6 k1 L. c& n( @we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! x/ F  R; @8 e+ h( _+ {
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
& p& f( f: {1 [# pso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' I! j  x; ]/ c* E* y: A
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 N9 p% v  A  A$ d/ mbro singgeihot and rest365days
( o4 }% K+ b- ghonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
" l; I2 s1 C( c6 W. q" u$ Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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+ t! V$ H% _  v* ^# T# bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: