jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 q) X* e7 ~  Z  Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& b' i5 K6 g5 K7 Q: q- D7 s
why this happen? just simple........punishment* C) _$ K* J( b8 G8 n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ D* Q. q5 k8 R7 [5 x& Ibut why jesus need to do this?) Q: R( n* }! O. ^  s: E& C- h
punsihment for what???. S( t, O( X2 m: X* ~' }0 Y) b) p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. g5 h; n- `$ D4 y: h& }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, u# J3 p; [; N& S+ k) N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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: W5 Q8 L# H" c* {just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) n( ]" W8 M' j" y

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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! u  X+ o- D3 J! n! O: [但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, e2 ^8 N- E# W  d2 t

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) @7 F/ M' g2 `) H5 E" Y( B
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ f4 V8 C9 \5 |1 [0 C% ?/ {3 Mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. O4 v4 _! V4 t; bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# V7 l/ b3 X$ |; ~, U/ Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 T  D7 _8 ]8 H' [
but why jesus need to do this?
3 e6 E: ~# v$ E7 f# k. t. r, mpunsihment for what???7 E; O2 {4 K: i* \7 O: `  H5 z# h! ^& Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" u8 o- \  t! A, S  S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# v$ ~( Q7 U- n' s' _! ~  h5 D9 U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * }( w) T9 h( I& q
what will u do???" e. m% _8 \7 D" l5 A5 R+ s' M
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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) _- V  _6 ^, i" }1 Esorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 ]+ _/ |, r) t" j+ I: q7 N( a8 p好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ! a" N1 M2 h& D( S
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: k7 K, w5 O4 u  i# v9 y
honestly, if there is jesus
! i/ [6 X' L" N$ N! _% `; \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- K# H7 w  ~- Y' f
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ X" h) Z" A" w
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; ]0 f- S/ T2 E* S
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! l( q. O% ?4 _  a5 L/ r
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 b; n/ ^  Z# M  U# ]3 e5 @# bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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4 M8 G; e' B& D  H; Q+ nhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 l! ]9 L2 o4 \0 h$ @
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: a- C: }3 A" C$ h1 m9 P自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: