jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:2 M) u8 J/ I7 j8 j8 p3 v
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 S6 F, C6 g1 K( |' R( Y6 n! |
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9 w1 C7 U) I7 z. [" m( Wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( A2 x* ~; T9 w: U$ C. Z  l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 ^3 m; l" T9 X2 F# e1 ]# Y' m  R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" w7 H+ y5 Z9 k* mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) `: ]7 |% z0 i7 pbut why jesus need to do this?
1 d9 h' y6 t& U9 i4 [1 {, _& t# [! Cpunsihment for what???
. S1 t! y% C/ d7 ^" g+ tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 ^# z* @) q0 `5 m5 r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- X$ u+ I" l. M; y1 `; N5 Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * @% Z5 a& |9 ?8 d1 E2 l
what will u do???: X5 L0 q1 j% B/ c/ w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( e. i; ?- S7 A

3 A% x" X) U6 S  H+ i咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 B) _8 v# {1 E" pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ E& f; g, \/ l- `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) \* s. ?4 a+ k
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 J4 R3 u& g3 W! e( @" y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  _1 X6 ?+ ^! T( f$ Jbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; J2 U! R3 ]* _# |8 ~/ etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( w5 R" _" Z: e) \( j, }5 P; H$ e) H$ A9 g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 Z- |& M. J- B3 \$ Uwhat will u do???
- k8 ]( y" ]: gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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" J3 ^4 ?9 [% ~7 Z6 m/ P$ Wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* a2 E1 B# x+ a! D+ F) r' _( \
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) B7 z6 n6 B9 Z; j: b/ Obro, did u know that there is a...

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( b6 Z, x( n1 W3 K4 n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# v" |2 j, y6 @3 j  n議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 Q+ X5 m# u/ o- l8 J3 }honestly, if there is jesus4 ?( k$ m; t$ U# _! _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% x! i( c4 r" Uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) ]1 X, j& E  E8 N- |$ sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' k9 o1 c: ~' T7 g  E% Z/ iso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( T8 @! j9 p2 V) Z& a0 [
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ ~9 H) {1 |; Q5 P! F% M
bro singgeihot and rest365days
  b% G. A1 Y* V! F  y2 _. u% ^honestly, if there is jesus9 \" e& k0 f0 v; Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. ]8 w$ w. u, G) u, d- v6 s7 Z; v$ D
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 |6 U# s, i7 kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 e8 ]: Z% o' R; q( Y7 a
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: