jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:7 h, A3 g* d* E2 D4 [
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架4 F; j0 B, U& ]. D) R% w
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1 f/ r' P& c# Gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  L3 T, s, D5 R0 ~
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" U( A0 E: ]2 o; G; U
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, M. {; B: X+ p: t2 ]' H6 @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( c/ ?7 `( ?. }. ]: }, }0 F5 U$ P9 [
but why jesus need to do this?8 R) X; ?( s8 V( P! ~8 g. `) a
punsihment for what???
4 x; B5 i9 q9 ]# n9 x  y0 Jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# Q4 P4 J( t2 Q# Etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" d$ Y: b" a" x3 K& ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   o( |- b/ F4 y3 v
what will u do???
! ?( W9 R7 V3 }* g! {! t- wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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; S7 m- ?, u2 Xyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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+ K& T4 n; w! N& K& c咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! Z- C. Q; A* [
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ ]8 U) m& u2 |
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 r/ S$ K! @- g+ \4 A4 O' M: Lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
' ?* i9 @6 {  R8 a: P. W& V' Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - u/ y0 S( p# _2 p7 Y# q
but why jesus need to do this?  S; n: i2 ]$ N2 A# A  o: e; j
punsihment for what???) \: A5 W- P' q3 a1 i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 d5 K; N1 {5 p) j! O# u2 b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( h# g3 [7 g6 w. ?5 Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " ?; u- h+ S# r" `5 G
what will u do???
* F; N4 p8 t: b7 j0 |# W4 \1 ^just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) ^+ y- H$ i) i: R; Q. d  u& r

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 G7 K, ~/ Q; c, h  e! U

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/ f" x6 o+ a. Z( {bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ r9 C. c. h4 f( ?# W$ y  L! I
honestly, if there is jesus
' T% W$ \& X0 b: A2 T# phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* N5 h: K& T( c0 d+ }we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 a4 K: X+ c+ {6 k' |
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& L( U6 d5 _- A2 D8 S* t. p* R7 yyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. n+ N% a7 Z6 [. N8 v9 d8 d+ [: @. {
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
- z% {& ~0 _% q3 g) kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% j0 P+ l. E+ l  ~$ U- |* c; U* b
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 e, ^' U. o# t5 \# ubro singgeihot and rest365days
6 M$ Z4 [- s. C" N# Fhonestly, if there is jesus5 D! E* u5 |5 V5 ^0 l* b: K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 Z+ S$ O" a  Ywe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 j, j2 p! B8 D! I8 Iotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
, u3 _; p& L$ ?! }$ c0 m0 k6 x自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: