jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ I7 J: Q  Q4 J1 Z
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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$ ?$ u# p# \* J/ M% ~( lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% ^& D6 S1 Z8 Q1 i. E7 y- ^1 y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ j; K9 C, Z2 Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ B( F8 R5 x0 F) w" g- r8 a
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , [# H; ?* j" D' x2 ~1 q
but why jesus need to do this?( r0 q. R  v1 q+ S8 n& y3 _
punsihment for what???
2 n) ~6 M  b' F, v$ \* |' y, S/ ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* K$ N  @( v( a" `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% A5 Q* W2 G; M# T3 J8 `& wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ \" b* P: A' n6 [0 v  K% H
what will u do???
0 H* R1 T+ ]! g# |8 p4 [) M1 Q9 m3 y# ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 v& ]3 W: v% V
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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, a! D/ B% t8 q) E+ D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. ?9 K/ W+ [$ c1 x% Q, A- s9 Y

3 ?) V, {4 n0 O( e  B/ W3 x* i7 }但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 ]' l9 Q9 I' c# G

- ?* a8 h4 s- ?* Y7 z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' I- e9 ^3 b7 V, I- O9 C
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- i- X, v7 e* z' S0 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 |6 [6 Y8 M3 J( |! c9 k5 g1 @1 D& L
why this happen? just simple........punishment' ?5 w' X, ^- X. j3 }5 K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / H9 [$ h0 E- `4 b: J" Y; X
but why jesus need to do this?
6 e8 f8 ?+ p4 G% ]0 {2 s7 M7 L* Zpunsihment for what???
- Z' i6 N, Z1 x' _% o7 xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 U* }  K4 a+ U# a# {8 gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 K- F  q" \( O9 O9 Z) f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- K! c( ^7 r! \7 ywhat will u do???
4 |0 B& B9 f. o. ~! D* Mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / s  y+ C' ?5 t# g

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 C) c$ q. i6 V4 O% _% C好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days6 j2 ?$ Z1 h0 u5 O* {. V
honestly, if there is jesus
+ n5 b% h. u8 O4 z8 ~he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  `$ @9 C' d/ h" k# ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  j, V) h1 E/ e

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# y3 B+ J# J- q$ M4 U+ Y" q  L0 `7 Gjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ F' }% B5 y/ l* C2 q; M
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 {$ A4 w6 y9 ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- Z1 E) @! h: u( z$ C7 n
bro singgeihot and rest365days, p  q2 _# e' Z1 B4 U
honestly, if there is jesus
, ^# |4 p, U8 v2 d  [9 x5 Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
) n$ J: y! w  i, V4 W( \we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ @0 I( N+ u6 o+ G/ x' r* v  }otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
$ }3 k! J  H4 f: U( A: i% l自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: