jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:' F( O% \7 {% G4 e# S; t7 t
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架' W! Y, ~! v# f
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$ P" [9 p$ D! T& xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% B) x' w( I! B5 Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) j$ O) ?& t; b7 W4 owhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ d8 T7 c" U. `8 [' ~, p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 {: x/ r% |3 z2 i3 e6 m0 g
but why jesus need to do this?
! s7 H8 F) S0 t8 o3 J/ j$ @punsihment for what???
( D; `% `% |. c) C% afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# ~2 k  }0 Z" _7 q- m/ Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. o9 I6 E! y2 n' p% k" S1 ]' x* v- ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : B- U& U, ?" K+ O7 j; L
what will u do???- x6 r- g9 p% O1 m6 u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:+ T2 K3 m' f4 {( r. [
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+ g) w# i. u5 |* T7 Gyes, what did u think is what i...

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. ~) F6 }, o3 l2 x& D& q# ~咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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: A' M5 x5 l6 e4 o- v但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. m$ C5 I9 L. i- V; f
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* J+ ]# y: K+ \* tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  S+ k, Q8 |" L" c# Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 E1 w& Y4 L. N7 B( _5 Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% d! ~8 \8 w; j! Ebut why jesus need to do this?
) |: ~2 J: {; K2 N7 C0 ipunsihment for what???# h; H, ~/ ~- d6 p
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% E* \' `6 b* }' s! |0 atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' {/ b: [% l5 X# H' F. [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 B& N. e5 p' v0 [
what will u do???7 e( N) C9 H6 i' s1 X$ m6 W
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' P7 p, Y, p3 }6 o" ~0 s7 p7 z

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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- \/ [. [' @$ U5 s* M$ [好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 H9 x/ p& r8 s0 b; O) M2 W: o

- ]2 g6 F% P! G! D- }& `議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 s' d7 _. A" y1 p4 i2 |. j' Z' r5 n. l- d1 Fhonestly, if there is jesus
4 M  k2 o: b% v: ~  K, N8 z1 qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 c8 E+ I5 ~2 r. U* {
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  X) k3 E4 g  G/ E
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; q' N1 B& F  [' u. Q! L' ajust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ n2 p3 x5 O- hso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
8 H4 U% ^7 U$ p* _- X5 Enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* H9 S0 g. m. o5 x! R; {& Z
bro singgeihot and rest365days  S( n. j% F% z0 D$ b; s
honestly, if there is jesus; i0 a" z/ H' }" z, f. T  N: [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 B# A5 Y3 I1 g/ P& I( Mwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( R7 l; q) m( _" V
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  J* {* G1 }2 p8 q7 W4 M自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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8 W% X  n+ H* g. g' c9 a! Nhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: