jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 i, `2 \3 b( w2 x8 \" y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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, T! k* D9 _0 M; ~9 jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* m0 w! Q& o+ L3 @5 pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 x: @# x7 D, Z8 h
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# }9 a% d2 \. c  Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( [2 ^* ~+ w& n0 ~, A
but why jesus need to do this?
2 _3 z- n  D9 y" {* m- _# g! d8 ^punsihment for what???
, x" I" _! D3 |- Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ H. ^: t, d2 Jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; ]' y! K+ N5 v' S, Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 T( B. ?+ k5 Z" Z1 C/ d8 P
what will u do???
: n/ Z3 S$ r3 l$ N. d' X0 m7 x6 ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 I6 H# s( L  W1 ]0 i; A

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! \6 n2 P+ D, x6 m

- _8 |( d, @3 Q" t" F但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) Z0 \1 [1 ?/ N2 q. {4 i1 R8 O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" e3 C% h( y# C1 }" z7 F8 X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 e0 U2 \  L7 ?4 d, ]3 Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 b, R' u7 {1 G% V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ n" q$ w& f- s7 y' [. {/ zbut why jesus need to do this?
- ^8 V; H) F7 n- xpunsihment for what???
$ b! U  \5 M: @9 ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' U+ O2 z1 U. L+ I0 htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 Z5 j3 y1 o3 o# H2 i4 c8 Obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
( Z& T% @& E" o; fwhat will u do???
5 E4 K8 \. t" w7 o# k5 Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 6 K0 l8 K4 V5 F" p* A  |4 x

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 C9 L2 Z2 u0 ?2 F. U
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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) `1 ]8 B0 F$ m3 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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  \/ `/ k- v, q: M. R- A7 b4 Q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 o$ u( |7 J: l( \" K: ehonestly, if there is jesus
. M& o8 _6 ^' B) C3 h3 |+ R" ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* M2 X0 \3 e. e' P4 F7 F3 r' t4 B, p* ^
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& T2 e' T4 q2 _6 p5 _) f! R
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( M! s  h- }& ?, s
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus2 W3 x( {+ |+ D$ O1 d/ ^6 I! M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- m% X. ]; f( U
we can't blow him :cool:

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$ X2 F; [$ v+ A, i$ junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 U4 e+ W( I! d8 Cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. b$ z) h) o  X: c5 k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: