jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  W7 }1 g8 U8 p7 h仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* B& j; u; \6 A: F
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 {# t5 x0 V* Z9 ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. L8 m5 ~: a1 P. }) qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
5 {$ I! D6 \) v" k- U' emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 Q6 s( Y. f% e# M4 s- S/ Rbut why jesus need to do this?
& N' e6 a9 |7 W( S/ ?- I/ npunsihment for what???
% y* O: o! h) Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! [2 J" W- l; Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! J9 X5 i0 R# w; Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, b6 v2 I5 G4 w7 R; Y2 n; q4 uwhat will u do???
. K  c( i0 k( X$ V' v# ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  D, G& ~! p7 m4 i! Z* S4 `" j

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  y  l: T4 u) `1 [) [, C6 C9 yyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, r) Z) L, J  @+ w' L! M" g9 l0 s但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# k; U! M5 B, I! @0 V
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" s6 f0 ?, U6 d" U( O/ u6 ?
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; k/ ?; f. A9 ^/ ?, |( l! e7 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 f0 r. L% I. j" f: Pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 C) x) v5 F0 b' Y/ z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   n* B! ]3 y0 c" \0 u
but why jesus need to do this?% C+ X! a" L5 _; n- c5 S
punsihment for what???, E& v7 H: L( k6 e% l* `
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 d0 m4 d/ \! t0 U  t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 \4 C& H/ u( H3 x$ s. S: Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! M. m- @. F$ k  E
what will u do???
+ V4 B/ W/ L& K4 @6 I' hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / }8 \# ~+ g& D" q- Z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- u: p8 I( @5 W) m; U& a* r
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$ @$ z; Q7 J  Z# h4 ibro, did u know that there is a...

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* N1 Y- u6 y; A( H  |; e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 f: O9 j! j1 a  R! R* B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 R$ c; C8 p; h1 o
honestly, if there is jesus3 ~4 N2 M& g/ V! }
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% _, s/ P1 K; m
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 x+ p2 ^; C0 G4 q! M' e$ H

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 l2 I; S% ~$ V, d. x3 y! Byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, e. u0 y  g* U; P7 Q# Y# Bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 y9 D+ P9 a) }0 W! Q% g
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......0 O" V5 @# l* Y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& i4 N! |! P( G/ r4 g/ R  E* a& cbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ d5 h$ `, o8 a, [9 H/ O; chonestly, if there is jesus0 t$ f, v6 B4 G& o- V6 y8 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' `/ _5 o5 {, X# A5 n  b( R, y4 uwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 K3 S# i) t& B; J& motherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 T. E, d9 p7 d5 I4 ^% _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: