jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
" y2 o/ i* ~! L1 ~仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& l0 X& _( v4 @! @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ y+ J9 f0 k7 N7 ?$ [8 k
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 I9 d3 u! i! I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( N6 l% o, {, v1 `/ A1 gbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" E4 T- J. a. J5 _" m9 E% _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???' S0 @/ k1 s9 C# b2 h, U6 v( w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:( Y/ _. n; e) p" o5 {' }, A8 ~
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( E3 }# O- `: m1 X) o7 W5 u( v
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& i6 V: M' B2 Y1 C2 T
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 D3 i8 g9 C  i- pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ Y! y# n5 M" X0 ^& l( g
why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 T  U7 v; W4 _/ ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# [* L; V6 O% I7 c& c( A& ebut why jesus need to do this?
' y$ N: x0 X0 Apunsihment for what???
/ w, p! b0 Y) P1 q  t2 Z' ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 d4 J; G1 B2 w' S! _' P& N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- L  J* W4 S, l$ ?  Abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' n" M1 a  F  t% _9 `- u. Xwhat will u do???
9 l0 y; A* N3 d0 a! V: C) u/ f; x" mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 X8 k$ \5 ~& B) t( s9 ]

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0 C2 M1 N  ]5 E% {9 gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( x; |4 B$ }: @
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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! B9 J6 h0 t% B8 ^; f8 x好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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/ j  W- Z& X" M1 v& ~議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
. y8 Z3 v' H3 @2 n1 w* xhonestly, if there is jesus
1 H. p% Z3 B1 Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus- P( B: I4 y: X! |! R" H1 k
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" z1 M) M+ E% N2 F) T; njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 N. _& [7 v! b$ p9 I. i( u* n9 Y. R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 t: |: h" U, F
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) O' _' D4 K% |7 \bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ {5 [3 v3 P7 r6 \/ ?honestly, if there is jesus6 j. H9 P& x% C9 O4 B3 g- t. j
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 d& c5 N, K& D
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( Y: b$ |# I1 t1 f4 a
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! E: u1 ^! ^! y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 C" h: o, I/ d3 Rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: