jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
' |4 ?0 V+ `) e8 O- L仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
. I) |& m3 I2 i4 E# ^...

) U; k% O$ T9 T% E/ x1 b3 H

, Q1 E- {! O0 Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  u, b+ ?  L% p. t
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# A7 f2 k1 w& r& s! uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment+ S# ~' {2 M! d" h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " D' f6 ]( i  d) L9 F
but why jesus need to do this?* Y# A  _; B! \4 o: E
punsihment for what???
2 }" s- P1 I1 V& i0 E2 ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 w4 f+ i, ]" \8 G0 d. M' Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% z9 g2 a2 |- U7 D! q, Z2 ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 B  ]% M+ }% w- [! s" m7 lwhat will u do???7 M7 r+ M$ H$ q# c7 ]
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
, [, k2 `+ m% x7 s* q8 o8 j- ^$ c: W
: G& @" n0 ?5 `* M5 O- h
8 w# f' M, }' s, X: I9 xyes, what did u think is what i...

' M; F4 p- N2 G# ~  K
7 R: a2 ^5 Y. y% f( i: Y
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
8 B9 x! `7 \! f( P8 E) Q# T6 X* p, A' X# k/ ~: U* A
但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
5 \5 N) |% G3 z: y; f! e! O; B/ ^. k: V$ t& o2 A
咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ q) e$ }' }! F, x" c# Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 R; L2 x. f5 o3 w- P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 e% n' ]3 T, w/ S9 E
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 }6 H7 w) v" z/ I+ @0 o+ o+ |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * R- ~/ h% p% [
but why jesus need to do this?1 ]" y- G) x3 X* P. P
punsihment for what???
$ p, F. w+ [7 k- d) |- H* }# f& Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 Z( Y  M% A  c; d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  x% l( I# x$ a6 h5 g% _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 I4 O% B# i# l4 ?" Y3 bwhat will u do???, D6 Y' Z' F! s9 A1 v+ r- g% Y, g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + L/ _( D0 A; I# X, _& I1 @

$ T$ w, Q! l% L% T3 F* w7 b/ ]# e
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& x: f, K7 L$ T

( r' t, f9 r+ \& I6 k3 F
+ U5 c) F& ~# j, l5 `9 xbro, did u know that there is a...

% Q6 s1 }, l0 c* {  M0 J

6 m: a" W0 `+ g1 F. s, W& u7 M5 m8 j0 M7 W# a
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : A& W( u$ k" I3 {9 p
5 S1 U2 F5 x9 B
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. i' A; ^5 ^) B9 Z2 k  U
honestly, if there is jesus: A4 ~) {# ]* ]3 U( \8 a4 w
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 }0 d, R# P$ J8 ~0 v
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
( n7 h! q% A  q- [  F2 o0 }5 F7 u  H
  H7 O$ n% l/ v  b- G  U% B5 j- i  a
( o6 y% p! B. [; g& P
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

1 Q, \  r! M. H) g$ g: t$ ^: W
( I; E. G( O7 L9 ^! x- myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' w* p2 n; k* ~6 c' pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ J) r/ H) O+ _4 c* \5 L5 n' S
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 x7 S; R, I- F- [now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& ^9 D( d  D2 S
bro singgeihot and rest365days1 S. E' p, `, f9 v
honestly, if there is jesus
) v% @& |  i: d% [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 e& O# M. N. s7 Fwe can't blow him :cool:

) r: v7 ?, m8 c/ b* H

0 I3 O, I' v/ Kunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ @8 r: c$ \; Q# _1 Xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
! \/ D( u" M$ l- J3 }9 G自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

! C) s8 J; @) T: q' J! D/ s( ^- g$ x  L; E- E4 z, x
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: