jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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0 r: T6 B  J) a/ n* H% E: \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 k9 V4 Y; x* B8 I8 A2 Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 C* V9 |) D  W, V/ |
why this happen? just simple........punishment; R: }. w% i1 b/ S# O8 v5 Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% l. \1 R4 Z: F: O3 pbut why jesus need to do this?
# T/ Q5 u' L9 i: D; Vpunsihment for what???1 m3 t- K6 C* p7 w6 C' ?
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& P1 ^0 c) a2 w; Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 `0 z$ r1 H" r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 h" E+ b; m  _
what will u do???# a- q* |$ }% u+ W: G2 Y5 E" b
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 p8 C5 P/ _1 X( L* q9 M
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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* K2 x$ e1 N- F! [: T' b咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; S: s2 f+ o5 O  B6 \/ E/ E但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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# e4 W- v7 [8 g# V8 _- d咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 k0 f6 s2 |! k7 [$ nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 i. y. R& J! z$ b  D( I" ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: y# Y* j: M! G
why this happen? just simple........punishment
- n" r) @+ L% q: s! [( g2 ?6 m, fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   g* Z( e9 V2 b# V" o
but why jesus need to do this?" l; j3 A5 V  m0 f. V9 k
punsihment for what???
, U' i6 {0 u; jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% f* p7 d" u" c4 A) z1 G& P8 a! y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 d1 s8 ?/ A. S9 U/ \, H" [  |9 Ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
# K9 B! ?2 F/ Z# ^what will u do???
" ~5 T2 P: w# t0 |0 n& t. fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 j1 \- b4 Z4 r1 A
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  n0 R3 e+ O# O6 Q+ F5 O& |0 sbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ o# `* B- v. ?4 x( U- X8 h4 C, R; c
honestly, if there is jesus
* C0 z7 M: i5 Y# l  yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 z  y$ p* L( i" m) Z/ }
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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& X- H# k+ C. H1 P0 {! ^; Jyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life, h8 m; f- J$ C7 a9 [/ `
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ [2 A$ h0 L* C( ^4 r% x  T3 w3 pbro singgeihot and rest365days
' C, v7 c5 [# q% [4 c# Shonestly, if there is jesus- r6 S8 `- \) O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' N3 U2 `7 J0 o) w5 R
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 W- z9 s% X: y( @: Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics" Q4 b  p1 h% K; o
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 I, y0 o& i$ A- l6 c
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. n3 X& H' L. I  e0 p4 ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: