jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
1 w7 U4 u, e, w+ A0 v/ w仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架6 ~2 g$ ?4 w4 {. d$ ?" j) k4 W
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4 D3 \3 C8 ?6 obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, O) J$ M8 x7 Z8 Ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# J% Y2 l3 M! |+ O0 c3 M5 }
why this happen? just simple........punishment, x7 M! y  R; {! Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 A, O% b" }! i( a, z. `
but why jesus need to do this?
& X% E. R7 u% Q. d% V4 K& T- n, v% `punsihment for what???
; j% K( B) f( u, k9 l  Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* `" g# ~) s  n0 f! i% B+ Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( w5 T: G- h" ^; U* k4 n4 L; f8 f
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 T# H3 c- i! D$ Vwhat will u do???
2 N9 j" z' G4 Z" l5 vjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ B. E7 B) F4 |" \% X咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. ~: c" |2 v' V, N2 \
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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2 R7 L4 p! ^! |1 D, ?9 i4 m咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 K& B! H# e  X' g# i
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 @1 Q9 O7 G! R& P8 a% n9 K0 }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- q1 Z6 r& f, [& `( c. {0 P
why this happen? just simple........punishment. P7 ~9 W+ d; h, \5 X0 U/ w& U2 j+ p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% Z. m% {: d, M6 `/ Ebut why jesus need to do this?) _) B/ }3 I" M9 K/ @2 N
punsihment for what???
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6 b) Z& J1 l) G! b: ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( n% X7 I$ s6 i2 O# i5 F* F
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; f5 X5 N! `5 c8 M/ l; M
what will u do???8 O" \$ W6 ~. w8 r1 n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, + e" w1 i8 E- C" P* ~

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3 S2 k9 k9 T1 J. _sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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# s. I0 e% D( Q0 N9 ^( w; r( h, ebro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ @% u$ ?" d4 D5 Y: r& a9 ~( b: L9 k

4 w% g- h. q  k) [議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) [& q' V$ R' Y0 P
honestly, if there is jesus( |' k* S2 O: O+ M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  {2 v0 d0 A. u4 {, k. P7 B# u9 ^0 d
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:+ Z) H9 a) R) }5 n6 }

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 w* a: [" [" F+ `- g# o( Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 I! B) l2 O" G4 M& n
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 C' Y  K* y9 y) W' E+ K/ c
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......# F3 Z9 n2 W1 A6 {( n& c) k
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
" @5 c! f6 v  l( e5 Z6 z$ Zbro singgeihot and rest365days" [6 n: I& C  W3 c2 O
honestly, if there is jesus
6 h9 J. j: L" G* F' c, J" Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# O( s5 u. X% Bwe can't blow him :cool:

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0 }- F6 h7 f; Y" X7 a) f8 f0 Iunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ |0 S- ^* @. i7 }8 z. Sotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% L' e/ i2 A' h4 _/ p. T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, t! F0 P# [- s- Y! Ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: