jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 l/ x, C8 d4 ~7 t. c! lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# g( Z' s) |+ `0 y% e
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 T6 w9 l! {) x5 S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' k% U& y" ]" g& b$ F
but why jesus need to do this?+ m) q  C$ L5 c
punsihment for what???$ y3 u$ S$ x6 [
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: [- r3 ~1 Z+ ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" Z' y4 P+ V+ p! T  S1 P! a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . _3 y- \9 U9 G0 S3 i. t
what will u do???, X9 D7 u& V1 _; e, @# {' |( m2 w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ _' F& r; J! W9 Y) G6 M

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉8 N: B* j- z" C$ s3 t3 t

8 i+ \8 a$ G' A但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% f' Z$ h& y7 Y3 `. N8 rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; c& Y  W& S" a! k& B2 w5 r7 ^- ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 r  [/ m6 Y5 `" ?- S. I& _5 {
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 F; o4 r8 _/ Z8 Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . B$ M" \' |, Z" Z3 j- P
but why jesus need to do this?% b" H6 P  R. k, M9 w
punsihment for what???9 {' L5 K# O6 c; T9 y) l8 o
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: Q: o# T3 {2 T& l' c4 H+ N6 g% h/ gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ D* l7 L5 g' mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
3 p( J! A, A8 _4 T' x. k7 Owhat will u do???. ^/ _" N# |4 S  ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 R5 Z8 S& L8 v" K6 P+ C

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' l* Q- H( E; m5 R" `. m

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days5 n' |/ M" [2 B4 b3 n0 d
honestly, if there is jesus( u! n* P& l7 d+ f) g' V
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 x* J3 m  Y& i, B' E0 @2 p8 P; e
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 E7 o7 [. q6 \  d% C

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life$ v5 m* h( F8 S! ^
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# q  @. ^8 Y( A# g# z+ l
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
! H+ O6 u/ D' q4 Xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ M) v1 k' W" }7 a7 T; {bro singgeihot and rest365days
( q  E6 }6 x. whonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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7 r+ o7 }3 }8 E& k, ^( Tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 h; a/ z( t/ R  R
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% s* ~) ~! O0 shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: