jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
) A5 c# B9 x; n2 S仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 i' j7 D- O* Z  e: Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ J% _1 x& \2 E6 T6 Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
7 I, F, M) `* bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( w) ^; v1 t9 E9 h% P" v( Sbut why jesus need to do this?
! c4 l* t  }! O; `8 U1 [punsihment for what???
( q7 N. O5 d- ^1 {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. ~& _3 p3 z: ^5 }. ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' Q9 ]6 u8 d9 ~: B$ Qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 M+ q% p% D" c" T: s6 Y3 L
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ r2 N8 @6 m! a8 B9 a3 A

8 W4 d/ W8 D- Q, X但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* p8 ?/ |3 F7 X6 _% ]

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 y' {8 U( m# b) T( P1 O4 ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& T, @1 V0 H1 [; L$ P" Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& n2 N6 E9 W4 R9 o3 f) U4 P
why this happen? just simple........punishment# E& d5 ^( R' @4 C( Q5 X4 r
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 W# b* D  e4 v* o' T5 h! G
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
( U$ X9 o2 J) H3 b0 f5 dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- y/ y, W6 V0 Y" G0 |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- L! k$ J/ i4 U, m4 [- Q) J# Nwhat will u do???( E0 U1 {* ~/ s. A" `4 e4 `7 d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 i6 }5 q- X8 S/ q6 C  \1 v. n  `8 F

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5 D& f* m6 x/ |  L7 Tsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 Z2 \5 {0 y8 H( e8 u

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4 C, s# }' g$ u4 s( z+ D( A( Abro, did u know that there is a...

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3 N# L6 F% |2 I8 ^好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . g2 c# ^0 B" y9 X: V
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ P" }  R$ c% W0 I
honestly, if there is jesus
8 o+ X0 J# C( xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, B; r% q8 f0 a2 Z; ^: N  O
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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5 X5 |1 [# p) n& A, _1 U# wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
: O& A, I0 F7 E& d( L1 ?/ Sjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 C7 [6 M+ w) B7 a$ z$ Jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; ~- m0 d! ~/ @- \# L  Q1 k. B
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
7 m) d. j2 ]! a$ q9 c+ mbro singgeihot and rest365days9 f8 b0 C! p8 u. X- E
honestly, if there is jesus8 u- q7 t5 y. @- \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" _/ p$ {! m& j- A9 o: V: R4 U
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 B& w, k6 U! \4 x- M" S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 s* J# o5 f# V' Q3 U
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: