jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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: n. E* M' ?! {/ vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 ?; q: x4 S' C. V+ m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 c' o" P8 D, x. _- K# h/ @
why this happen? just simple........punishment- F  ]+ G1 F2 J6 [
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 s9 f% M+ {; U  v( y. q
but why jesus need to do this?
# S, U8 G: P6 ^$ }punsihment for what???
, C9 {7 j4 N8 a3 hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 X! R* M% _1 Q; B$ Xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. ]  o/ h4 ]' I( W5 d6 y8 T1 L. m9 mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
) v( Z* Z5 l* m7 ywhat will u do???
% R, Q! q8 \4 C7 Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 ]/ y/ l: T# p- d9 \# Z

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8 v# ]( n% R/ X' f7 Xyes, what did u think is what i...

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6 ?5 U* D" N5 S' t. z9 r, g咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉1 K8 j3 X5 [( Q4 g3 ?! o
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 O# \! ^7 N8 f7 e; E$ s1 K
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ D2 Q2 ], s3 P' Z- l
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' s) M! x5 b) {& a5 w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- D8 `" Y& ]: [" ?; Xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ H7 o, {# v- i  [" z4 j; k3 t9 bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & K! C8 Z" l& B, Z9 s# A
but why jesus need to do this?1 R0 d, p" w/ }) G9 J8 b
punsihment for what???
% y9 e9 @" a' N* u- V  `( I3 vfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) D& J8 l- K0 p7 M% utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' O2 \" J) G( A% e0 D6 J8 Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . m$ t& I6 e. d" V$ U. M/ I
what will u do???
6 U, [, x' P+ x8 v% Hjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 e# J: T3 G8 o

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' t$ f. d/ A8 O9 z6 V$ t# b2 ?

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. q2 Z) K* C& m1 lbro, did u know that there is a...

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2 w. {. n+ a: _8 W, ]" q; e) P/ m: k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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- ?: ?( _. m: R, u( Z2 M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 j+ |8 A' |3 V  I
honestly, if there is jesus' `# e' g1 |4 Y6 \* I5 |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* b. n$ A8 w: I! l3 n; p+ n
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  |: `0 d5 a& s% j$ o

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- c+ j' Y0 g5 s) X6 h好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 E, W% g1 n0 w  W! Z9 L5 L, _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
" t5 s8 P4 R6 k7 A0 P. T8 ~. ^so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  d7 E- b2 G; a) Q& R0 unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( x- W# e& i, w( m
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ A, w. v  q  w" q; ahonestly, if there is jesus% O! Z+ u1 ]2 v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: q" D9 B) F8 ?+ J! r4 p- n9 t
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics0 v2 ~6 r0 S- m
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 x# `" Q9 x( x+ s4 B+ {自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 t# X" [: d1 N9 ]5 F) n, y1 Bhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: