jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% L, H1 Z& P# s! w8 o* c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) Z4 c8 s  z/ h9 Q* i$ f
why this happen? just simple........punishment) M% S0 C# ~" Z' ]1 u0 K8 {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! l6 [5 T, M" o0 G" c
but why jesus need to do this?/ x8 b6 r# D# l* z: ?' |2 }! o* X3 ~
punsihment for what???( p+ t- z5 B; e+ c& b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ Y0 K- K4 J: I" }/ ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  [1 t6 m! ?- _* _5 d2 O9 @) E
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . \' I. Z6 I+ X) |, ~( D8 Y3 B
what will u do???# P- T( s; Z+ p0 [7 o  l5 {" E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:, D9 x8 C/ N3 g1 e7 h; u7 r1 K

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; \; u2 `. d3 m9 x  k1 f7 J' L5 z咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ ]) x2 g  w) N

8 ?, J* K# u/ O- H  N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ @  b# M% R+ e+ v. a+ \; x# x! W

# p7 k" k1 m9 A$ q' [咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! N  g8 ^' O+ Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 f% n" F* \8 e3 f, \2 Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( Y, c- i! n6 `" a4 b) fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
) S5 ?( u( `) _, Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 a# q. L1 u& s! S# Y! Xbut why jesus need to do this?
6 I# u* \: r7 M% T9 g! r* @punsihment for what???
- |, r1 R3 a- `; j6 U% ?for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' F& I2 t- _+ g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 x: K" d2 }, t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # r0 K# I, l# `7 m. m: L) c: g. l
what will u do???3 o7 d+ I" N! O
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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. a! Y7 L3 |% r/ H" z( |; m0 vbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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# m. ~2 t% \  X4 N' F! X9 x, k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) m8 k4 i- {* m  M% `
honestly, if there is jesus
( D/ Z7 P& D0 i8 A5 K/ }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- M- S5 k# }  R% k5 [& N2 l' ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' ]$ Y; s1 m; ~+ v

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- t  x% B& _; k6 ~$ y2 K8 S+ ]; ]just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
+ t0 a7 N7 s1 v9 A5 |* Oso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* `/ G' f+ t+ D) _$ I( ?  Vnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ x! z8 e% M4 @- G- a( a
bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ l7 J8 u- \8 V6 p) x8 X/ ]9 L$ a/ Dhonestly, if there is jesus9 X5 ?) q  ?) ?8 n& J7 B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 c" ]  r) W. M. [  k& s
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 u+ z% [  @# R7 U
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 |3 Q1 H* X! a$ Y7 E+ K7 e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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/ E8 j# c) X; w" G/ shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: