jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" E1 y' Z# I- W8 x1 N
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 H/ m  ]- D3 c- K' k
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( ^$ t& L0 F! h$ _' q  Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& P0 @0 ~, {8 _& I. A8 B% n& V4 jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ E+ \2 Y- K+ `. X0 h/ n2 O) Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" {# W* S5 h% ]$ L7 J7 L* Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) o. p/ O& ?1 v' S0 r
but why jesus need to do this?
0 B' d0 U% c" q% f$ ^7 d- ?punsihment for what???
- n( E0 P' [, @  D0 o. nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# A8 K6 B6 S( \3 b& @4 ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% D8 w1 y$ y6 A+ \" k2 G$ l

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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& ?" W+ t$ Y. m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉+ C: o2 ^9 F5 @( D* n
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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2 W6 p. m" c! Y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 c' [' o5 E9 ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 x4 [: S$ h7 e9 d# g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# s: U% t- \) y2 R9 A) }why this happen? just simple........punishment9 u9 _1 L2 p" z. S# ^+ |! G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / n5 U" O6 G7 b1 w' {+ x% o) w
but why jesus need to do this?! ]3 L: C& i1 z! q4 E! ]; f/ v
punsihment for what???3 ?' t; r2 R1 N7 x2 q# P* @: M% x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 Q+ a2 z6 f7 o+ }
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 g5 t5 s0 k9 i( k5 |( I1 V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 l# _5 `) V& w5 Fwhat will u do???- i, p* j* Y, R) H2 L: J; \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 A* u4 z7 {1 |

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ b  J% ]0 Y8 u+ ^! f# K. A2 h7 H

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" }7 @: j" f5 J5 f# }bro, did u know that there is a...

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% X, x: _6 r9 X+ n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: g7 x' p( b- w- Y; q4 T% Xhonestly, if there is jesus
: q& q! W3 s- X5 v8 l/ i1 t* J. the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: p1 t" M4 @) ]) T  B8 ~$ H+ [
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 S: o/ N6 A& R& X8 V& D7 E
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ d1 C1 h7 ]" M  I$ F; w: Z: g" Ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: o. f2 H$ a+ H# kso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
$ u5 v$ H% @8 v3 k; ]now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ T7 g/ ~7 a, x8 }: J# }  j" t
bro singgeihot and rest365days, H9 Z, E+ m* b( w
honestly, if there is jesus% }' \4 |: m. a# [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, j& r( H7 D3 a) w- ?
we can't blow him :cool:

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; r% t$ k0 W" H5 @: j: Y4 wunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ x' C8 p- F8 C& O7 ^otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: