jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, b  z$ p* z7 G$ H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架$ E" d6 m0 a% H- F! q( h* r- h
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 a. ~( O7 v& X1 D) f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 n3 S7 e7 f  g5 Q4 e
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% e+ f1 S9 P% Z( S6 `! cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  K5 a( U3 C* ~5 o& K; e7 B% |but why jesus need to do this?- H9 X1 i* @2 `8 L( n4 d
punsihment for what???
3 p1 i8 d9 l  X5 T* g6 C6 Ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  N0 |) }  V0 @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  M1 \* z! x  ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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- j% o- A, a- xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, |6 Q0 o( _, {+ L8 X# r, E- U
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ \$ k4 u  y9 n* M
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 }3 v& D' S: w3 {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 k9 _- [" f0 z
why this happen? just simple........punishment: d' |5 d6 x- C4 b2 L; e  G9 d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 p8 `- j9 l3 o4 [' S
but why jesus need to do this?4 q$ Z) ^! Q' {' P% A+ i: ]  c* X
punsihment for what???; _. J. |# A/ J: c3 P+ s$ ~% w  m
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 V+ X* ]7 p% |& n' V/ z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; C7 v- |4 z; F, {; _! }6 s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + F* R) ?- R$ a
what will u do???
7 c8 |7 g1 q" e. S3 n! Ojust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' E3 I5 e- x$ x+ d( X" P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 w+ E) ]( m. g- @
honestly, if there is jesus3 Y. r# J0 ?8 q: u; q+ l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ l& F! [& R+ ^4 q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, N3 o( t1 ^' _* @

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0 {* Y. r% g% s8 t好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' I" f0 [. c. c
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 h; S  ?4 k/ G  Y8 ~
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
/ c# A6 V- L3 a: rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; h$ k7 ^& F! b, W
bro singgeihot and rest365days
; W3 S" I. I8 t& t8 Ohonestly, if there is jesus
. D% K6 S" a( M  M% zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 [2 ]& T) V& u- n+ h  ]we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! A7 ?0 z. K) D4 }, _: Gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:$ Y1 e; v9 @; r  @
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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