jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 g- m; q5 L2 Q2 Z7 ~# I8 H' \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! o0 R7 X9 w+ V5 i, U3 Gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment* I3 j+ K  o; f6 \5 B; E3 h4 ]( T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 a- D/ x4 ]/ z  D0 }# w3 X2 r
but why jesus need to do this?
3 y1 I% y; |! t8 _& m; M' Q. Upunsihment for what???4 b% m% g7 Z8 e) r6 p$ _1 }
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 g" |1 x1 _+ I  O$ i5 wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& Y% w. A7 ^" Vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 `$ ?& W6 u6 M& y8 Q
what will u do???
+ @& K. r1 p- t* Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* |& S7 n1 n7 |1 S& _4 D' h: d
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. E% O' \' L5 Z" l6 D& c. Z2 A+ W
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
/ z% T/ p  x* W' Y6 b4 ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# P0 T5 n: J. L& V/ \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. Y  P$ b8 p, G# [# k+ O: Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
, }+ T  F' }  cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, Z0 j1 n1 M3 C# X+ J/ r; Lbut why jesus need to do this?* p( I6 {6 i; J9 x% j4 R% E( C
punsihment for what???# J+ x" w( {) k& k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ d$ ~, W* C7 q& @/ P# |  p3 Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; [1 `0 W, o4 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 |5 C: s) K/ w8 k; \$ gwhat will u do???
* m! G' p2 C( e. ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : e$ S8 Z1 o, S9 l! W# A! w

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. b+ }4 w( f/ Y0 U
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% e2 _' k8 b8 x& s" D0 s7 R1 Cbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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& ]% r' S) s: h; I+ x- ~3 k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# R3 a) E0 w0 q" n- c
honestly, if there is jesus
* ]9 k2 \, H0 ?' l9 m0 Z) |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 N' r' |& ^% owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 \+ c+ J# R8 ?4 Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: `0 I6 I6 F- a  |: o1 N" z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# L1 m8 }/ A9 k. B) I1 x  tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! N' p9 v7 ]; \( D4 Vbro singgeihot and rest365days
5 C. ~$ s/ O! q# q& z) n! Uhonestly, if there is jesus; \8 c; i! T' i$ |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- N8 G& @$ c+ h- O2 T$ Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ n9 F% m# D, A$ Q1 K
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
" F+ w$ X: L5 g自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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0 f# T( X+ z( ~: x: Ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: