jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 K) j( J$ f7 H& {, v5 ~
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ E/ o  W$ x* n& {2 _% l; w0 B
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2 U4 Q1 \) f0 [$ N* x( Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; _0 f+ M  Q! ~# \  n4 p+ O0 Dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ @  w) b+ G  L/ l
why this happen? just simple........punishment* B# j" f* w$ V/ x7 f. e- y
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . n" a6 Y' l: q8 W: K! c
but why jesus need to do this?
6 g: C* b7 l4 l& T  j4 d% [punsihment for what???
% N* A& R/ j- V* ^% k" Jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 J8 z: h5 z9 x: K% o6 s' v3 }8 Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& a$ p( D2 o; q$ t: bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , w8 \# q% L" ~4 }5 }$ f
what will u do???
1 y3 H. L: K( u7 @; ~9 \just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& b* k; v* L, s- _5 l! ~( X

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) `  O4 A& y# c; hyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! C' O1 E) J. w2 N, z; T' l
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
' |1 s6 F  {+ U$ G7 u+ ?. [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" |/ L8 z; G! `# ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# _5 K9 |0 F1 ]) D% C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: F$ p# w- q" g# o, Y4 Qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 @! X  ^% @' j, l  \: \' l/ F
but why jesus need to do this?  k+ @! E1 Y2 w
punsihment for what???
. J: [2 X! ^7 H6 B. mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ Y8 q: p4 i3 }( F( Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  v$ w2 T3 l; L: X8 ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   n# h& ^& ?8 V. N# n" z0 ]
what will u do???2 ^; G& c8 j( ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 q& m# n# E) }" P1 [

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  C4 G9 a6 L- a9 t  Zbro, did u know that there is a...

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% A0 Z( u0 O& r+ c3 k: t, P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 & J) ~% {3 s8 Z& z
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 t5 a6 h) |4 Z* l* W2 E, H5 g
honestly, if there is jesus
( G9 l( M- [) W6 G# I+ a, }he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 O% o7 B' m9 Q- ]1 v, B. ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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$ H7 d  Y7 @5 @1 p6 B3 u% m好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' k7 M! r: d2 b' x  K- a% v* S* I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# i# P+ \, J+ n4 ^5 u" T( Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 u( y( G2 V- x5 Z/ r/ j' `& Anow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
3 c$ P* W- H* M3 U2 L! Ebro singgeihot and rest365days( @% ]- y) r6 k: Y5 R. @
honestly, if there is jesus8 E$ E/ l7 n$ a/ K6 I: ^4 F* R. y* y- o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 u* _" N; e8 j1 I
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: p" ]; T: Q$ V" }% o* l; J
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: