jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
6 Z. K/ f) }0 d  k- e仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  E4 b: c- K) q* rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) [( p6 e! M8 |
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; R# l" b8 e  I* A5 ~9 w& X0 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 w7 D- m2 K9 Q* l( i2 }4 [' `( `
but why jesus need to do this?/ q% C# W' o3 o; T; I
punsihment for what???$ v2 m, m$ P) w+ r5 E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 B: E+ \, r; {9 Vtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, R0 z' R4 q( v7 l6 E
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - {/ {; ~9 H8 ~& w1 D
what will u do???) X, D4 ~* A% l) b1 n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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; m& F' [( |3 Q" m; m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; O3 k, m: {- F; H7 f& w
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 [1 z* k* A; s  K+ kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  B3 J/ {( a. J2 E" K
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" {0 N1 S% v: ~7 Q- M) f
why this happen? just simple........punishment) l  }5 j* r3 p% b4 n; t! w- i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . F/ |) ]5 I) W) ?  ~  Y
but why jesus need to do this?; Z0 i; q3 d; n% U: ~
punsihment for what???8 l* b# V$ [7 ^: ^- g3 `$ M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, i! d& m; w% e/ `try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 C  l+ X8 N2 ?1 z$ s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 {& U, t) L: w7 K; N
what will u do???2 `6 }- N5 I$ H% T  ?: D  z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ m6 R' U1 S3 ^

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2 S2 Z+ R9 e" K3 `7 J, T! G$ T4 qsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 h$ c# M8 O5 _; y. ^bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 ^9 Q# H3 c) |# S, D9 k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 w9 t! I) H0 c# Y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) H. M/ s. @' y: P% h* i6 ~# @
honestly, if there is jesus
+ {2 U" X; n3 d% l8 qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
5 c, s2 P9 `# ~  g4 b8 i4 awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 X8 Y# M2 f: ?0 q5 K

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  L: L5 f. J. [" kyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
9 V5 W9 h" J  }6 \8 [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
, J* W' X: O& B, g+ S# q& [so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  y1 ]/ C8 _$ J3 `! v
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" M7 w; j/ n- c. k: Y
bro singgeihot and rest365days
' v( ^* h- i5 k: v2 Y+ G- |' Ehonestly, if there is jesus
5 k7 m2 b& e( g1 |# Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
. o3 p! Q' P# B; w3 h0 P/ Motherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 h- G! x1 ]6 l0 D' ^9 Q6 t5 E1 q
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: