jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 q0 {' [9 d( T. D7 k7 R) O
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) @  G* \& ^/ T0 Z. N0 qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% B) S: \: C/ [6 t8 `2 C) `8 @7 rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 K: ?# E$ N! v- r8 Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : o' Q7 U$ a1 i1 U) ]# _' L" @
but why jesus need to do this?
2 p; u# @, h1 U# V8 a* q  \7 v: Rpunsihment for what???
* f  P) ?2 j8 h% D, C/ y" _  Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, e  P8 H- {2 ?0 Ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* p) i9 ?2 z/ p4 e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 T' d) Y/ e  O0 t
what will u do???
' y2 ^, w5 _, v% q5 V+ ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 J' \$ s0 T, H3 e! |
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- l  h+ n; i: t  V3 C咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, `' W, A8 F( B* o1 j) N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排9 i5 {3 ]/ v, N) U
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 r2 Q* Q0 N+ @9 d( ~) Q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 t; z2 o0 S9 o' ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 k# @( o' ~* S/ C2 twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ I1 J. b; S3 r% Q' `9 R+ Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # V2 @9 B- d9 C! d" a* q# v( {! R
but why jesus need to do this?
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4 A& ?6 m2 K( ]5 {" Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. J. v5 m. I/ w: g5 {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 i4 Q9 C3 E; k& Q# R0 b6 }
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" T" {2 ~& Q! t0 T/ v' |. Rwhat will u do???
# v6 T, H8 H$ t' Y8 Pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : ]% d, a8 _; S! P, F$ k! A" g

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" b  r: `& |& q7 G2 [
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% H6 c" R- i2 X4 x" ?bro, did u know that there is a...

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' g0 z1 I" O! i# p* i0 F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
- |' I: r# S0 n- R  c& m7 jhonestly, if there is jesus  K( U" Z3 S+ L9 s' m5 R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' T9 ~$ K% Y% N/ mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 t# ~! x. ]' k: w/ U: w9 W. y9 b. v
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7 a1 f& b9 X. `2 d) ]  |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  o- |8 ^4 W: A; f  Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 B: L: E1 Z6 zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 j! {$ ^) A  y
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
$ h+ R/ u) u' V3 A# f8 p# L/ ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& O' q2 x: A0 k
bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 S; X4 k, o* w' `honestly, if there is jesus# a1 B1 y% i/ ^% G6 K: k7 r4 w4 \  Z, |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ |' ?3 ?! X3 j" b2 }# g5 ]we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics$ Y0 Y& G  Y" d; T
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:, N. l/ [  a( P
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( |6 y. m4 E4 ?) j3 Z- L! nhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: