jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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% k# N  a, v. k  |! E: cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& X$ M& c# ]" @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) Y; U% `4 a8 g' [: B; c  L  ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, J- l2 n) q# |4 o0 ?! {many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 O$ S' \  C. S* a3 C' J  ^
but why jesus need to do this?
7 D. l: D+ ]  `9 b% x9 y+ ]- Epunsihment for what???
1 d; a; w7 O# }: ~( T! gfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- X! r( S# Q7 }7 H, j! H* h& xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; z  F3 N, W! I: V' ?0 e* o
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 n' q; f4 ~& r5 awhat will u do???# Z$ x7 S* s3 U8 o
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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; v& B7 T0 f2 Dyes, what did u think is what i...

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3 ^, @0 a9 U4 e' `" W2 Y+ R咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) a' j8 A, f1 |
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- m1 @, C5 \- B" d
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 h  Z6 F4 U7 @0 n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ g: z. a$ q: H6 a. f; L3 Zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 t  D: y- X& x, f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 B! \; z/ t5 B0 ^
but why jesus need to do this?
- y9 x, |3 ~/ V! E  A% W2 kpunsihment for what???! w1 U  g  S' E( P! c: [; H+ T! x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' W( u4 y/ P8 R: l  ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; r# N! K7 ^# K2 a. D% W* q. D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % V7 I+ t2 {# H
what will u do???
# p4 Z; W- u2 Sjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( x( m" `3 |+ }% s+ Z7 b) {7 G- _8 s) j

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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+ ]2 T5 Y; q! E) b+ `; Fbro, did u know that there is a...

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% s( u* ~: m! {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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  k* g+ F$ o" @' l4 C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 I; ]- c  K# M% N$ U5 G0 e$ A/ jhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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) E. `  A+ A1 i2 g/ s# C; zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
  R6 y0 t* T0 R: W6 |just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 H1 f% a, a9 |# t$ o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 C5 h1 O) T5 K( G, S) B7 Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( u, S, G* o$ B) O1 f
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 ~. e7 M8 F& S  Q1 L3 A( S2 ^7 G
honestly, if there is jesus
1 P. s1 ^' U: f% [/ F2 qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; b5 W: l. c7 }2 @3 R; H. Qwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 q" L3 J- v1 r7 x
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 E( z8 p2 R2 J/ d3 V2 I自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: