jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  {9 i6 U+ D" J. ^$ r( p
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% Q4 |$ J9 o1 i! f4 J* c- lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# X! G# _0 Q5 H$ Y8 b3 Y" N" a0 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ R! X$ P1 W. M% o' A+ {why this happen? just simple........punishment  c: g  t1 w/ C  b: P
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' v) l1 s2 [6 Z( l/ g
but why jesus need to do this?
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' W! ?# Y, q, m' T! wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; S$ L) K+ A$ Z. `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: a& ?6 D, h# Y; S. Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # ?8 ]1 Y/ o% Q: O* h# K: v
what will u do???4 e& t8 O- B9 Q, v& V. Y! K) y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& `3 L' Z4 E' ?4 D+ H! g2 Q# |
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉4 W9 I5 R: p% f& x- z, Q. n& ^
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 i. T2 L' g. r" k
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 w# i5 ~! g* _6 A% k* L
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  z( {0 `' D$ k9 A
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# ]2 D" U; M) _
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# J; l& a) c0 }. Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ J' E% H5 P6 R! F  P9 Lbut why jesus need to do this?
' W+ @) H( o) ]. y; cpunsihment for what???/ o6 t4 I1 ?5 C% g5 n) e! [0 X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% J( O) X; C' q: z5 M7 a1 g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ m) m0 f4 `" }/ C- B3 |
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 X: j/ ]5 R0 Z3 t3 r7 c( q
what will u do???5 |8 a" G/ H- p$ A9 f7 [
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* {5 r4 ^; ~( S0 D, _
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 z+ u' O% k/ q& X" K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 o1 ]3 K5 u; A2 _6 h; o( k0 {, f6 k( Y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ Q8 k" T9 L# i
honestly, if there is jesus
# o9 K1 t% j* Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" n8 A* k$ Q2 `& l, ?; c3 V
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ h+ h3 J3 Y( F; B8 N& Xjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! I) S* h5 C# m
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
& V" |* O+ r0 onow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ H) O8 ]5 ?1 n# ^
bro singgeihot and rest365days
. V- |; T' ]# V: vhonestly, if there is jesus4 @, r# ~" K& a5 X# c$ a( O5 m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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* K* P& m6 R3 |2 Vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
; ?6 j+ B/ U& H( F6 c, A自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 }. D+ V" F3 `4 _5 v3 jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: