jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" R; u0 F5 D, e
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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& W  w0 m; ~9 c9 \; E7 C- {! Ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* F* W/ d. f" y
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& G0 s: ]" x7 ]8 Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: C& n! k+ ~: l/ e' V# T" |  H. Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& C3 j# N% K, W4 N8 Zbut why jesus need to do this?
8 |( s) L, Z5 `- qpunsihment for what???  l; M  V8 [# F9 p$ P; k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* J4 P# S$ h, P! @/ o- N
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, |% i7 d# l0 H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ D1 l6 r( ?6 K3 R6 twhat will u do???- l' C( M& n  X, ?+ r
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 Z& O7 u- y9 f7 z! h8 F8 ~
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) A* N6 b% N& [9 z7 y- k% R% M咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 S9 i9 n; m: [3 v" e  ~: _  B+ f

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 q9 E7 P3 z8 j. [( O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# {  [3 A; Y0 scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 d8 ^# w* M4 ^! v( |4 U
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 r  }. _  m; Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! O$ O: n$ g2 \5 F  mbut why jesus need to do this?- s! Q3 Z2 X: K7 C3 b: L/ ?
punsihment for what???
" d9 ?! {. L( P5 Z; Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# n/ E" u1 b3 [& e" _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- k- I& s# H" Y- U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ {4 L+ ]  |: W# y8 ~, }! ]3 W( f7 Mwhat will u do???! s, ]- F0 Z0 g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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) k& e! D- G6 M" I$ g0 D9 Zsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 R4 T1 |! _- n1 ]9 t. M( M5 C& Y

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 t6 F+ I1 m- \/ N! R/ q2 ihonestly, if there is jesus
: l$ g' e0 G) x  i5 B& The really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ W, j  g" Q* ^1 v4 a$ d) ?4 b
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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0 s$ k  Y8 c; I* O7 g* k9 ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
+ D0 w2 y2 `2 G/ \4 K+ b+ Pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# O- ^) Z/ H4 N  {# r
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 O4 {9 ^" v/ {( r# G( N( Gnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* y" u4 y" ?" B
bro singgeihot and rest365days
- v5 B( @# u; S1 Ohonestly, if there is jesus+ W. m$ y- h7 H6 j, C" W4 F* N
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 m/ K2 E  ~8 o2 Z/ h! gwe can't blow him :cool:

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% f- K: \; ?" n- J, }2 T& d  O+ B# aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' r* q. }* j  i自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: