jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 G, {# L+ u4 ^% d9 f8 L' Z' h& ?
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ F; a4 V" D4 y7 v" ^$ u5 }
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- s  \% M) [. n8 Z5 H
why this happen? just simple........punishment  w$ s4 e8 C, m. e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 r9 J$ Y3 w  I! @  Cbut why jesus need to do this?  I8 x  d) d) u( r; J; V" g9 `! _: E
punsihment for what???5 _6 c: F) i/ e4 J
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 ~8 _6 L/ |7 Y% d1 _+ y' utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ ^8 v9 c4 X; g+ D6 x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& d2 w: z9 V# K, a7 e9 Fwhat will u do???( \2 ?" b" o, C* R' m- f: L
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 T! O; \3 ]7 Q1 D

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 i+ h# T9 w6 W7 }
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) w2 _# F) V6 T7 q% jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" U/ s! t" V% P9 p+ uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment# p  O# C8 _# U" t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# F' G4 d8 x5 ?  X" [$ @but why jesus need to do this?
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3 \% ?! E' q3 Q& X+ D. B: Pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* O( c) Q2 b4 htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, o: {+ ~* ~. h$ p. D) ~+ W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 i  P/ f$ J7 [5 lwhat will u do???
; r! |( \- R1 V4 I  qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 U, g1 T2 y1 c* D- @) @

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- I  E: `/ z. v1 K! \# Zsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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% S5 n- H( e: Q# }- A4 B! B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
4 H* k5 q. U4 ?* ]9 A! n* Whonestly, if there is jesus3 W3 Z8 t  i% f8 Z* D/ b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( o. U0 |7 B6 z0 \% }9 m$ Z# nwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! T/ p" n0 H3 `5 \0 J1 l. B- T
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! @/ \$ y' a; Z" ~$ E* Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; z( b7 D+ z" \2 ^3 K7 d* G! a3 Rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) D/ H: h9 F# [1 ?* Q: H
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
9 `5 @4 D- ~! ]9 }$ j8 unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus4 V1 a% T. F2 t5 R! V( {
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 g& |" T/ O( B* i0 e6 f- u4 ywe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 y: k/ O0 y$ Qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ \$ _4 M: u: T1 G
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: