jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
* N- u$ J" m0 b. N7 k仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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' g! P' N3 o" s* P: c4 Pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
' R: e) X! k) ]+ w: A* E- n4 ecomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 d. S& g: n9 h) z7 F1 B# zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
7 i# `& _9 z% k+ O2 z8 Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + |4 y( X# ?- t# x9 C
but why jesus need to do this?
2 n" q+ v3 B( epunsihment for what???
; M! |1 l) l; h9 |8 T0 j8 m" y% ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 R5 L, g" ?$ t& B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, W% G8 a; X* I+ j, u7 l% s6 c, ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! S& L* `: f" P, x( l( o
what will u do???
0 ^" D, N$ ?4 d) djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:( E1 @; o: P9 r" M7 g" G8 }3 V
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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: V7 O- F! Y: Y) B4 m+ d$ n但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! ?& u$ l& H. e3 r

$ a5 a; R6 {! s4 S' y, ^咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% Y( U( C8 I+ H! Y3 o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  x3 k7 G8 {( Z( U6 K2 k# M6 n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, y+ n. j: u* W
why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 b9 G4 _" ^7 J+ G8 }$ {9 E# emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ ?% I2 x& |. e! jbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 ]8 t2 F8 i0 I" R/ u6 A, _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ q' D  u- J3 x3 tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 X" o/ h9 ?- [8 N
what will u do???  C1 a( _  S6 ?8 D5 w7 g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! n7 D% x& Z0 [2 J

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( Z" b8 e- [+ a0 E+ t- o

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! I( m) P; W: A1 Y$ x2 rbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 @  a, G  _5 P6 f( V# Y! Ahonestly, if there is jesus
" U* Y8 |2 f+ R4 M; Whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ p, h: [3 S6 W/ y/ v# Q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) X' d7 x7 P" W) V/ y
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: H4 }3 h% G9 R. g" |7 ^2 S& T! x8 {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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* Y, \1 d$ W' _4 T$ cyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. D- U  J+ Q6 y+ [1 R. Pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) M! N! W+ n: N0 P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 v" g: `1 w2 |
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' V; k/ s4 z1 K0 h* H
bro singgeihot and rest365days5 g( u4 D0 e$ P- {- R; P! C
honestly, if there is jesus5 v0 F. D- Y0 d5 |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 i2 B: F* t6 A% F# V; b, z/ ]
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' _& m9 s0 Y4 d% F
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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7 ?3 `% k% ~9 V2 d! Hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: