jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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! J" p% X) i/ _; y- y0 jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; N; z& v2 Q0 d8 Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  E4 y$ S( h7 Z7 _# pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. a0 V. m: U- ]! x# @2 B0 B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! q- w6 R; D+ w! y( P; P
but why jesus need to do this?( f3 l: m6 c8 I: l! A
punsihment for what???
6 C, n3 H% k  S# \9 O3 u& ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 U- Y: `1 Z/ B0 Z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, W' B: J9 c  L: u) V$ \3 |but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 t2 v# ]- l+ N8 h
what will u do???7 y- G! B) Q" k6 y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:+ X7 }+ m/ \; Z8 b5 N

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: [3 _& a' A8 |+ e) a/ c+ {. @yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ w$ D# H% ^* X" @* _- O( I咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. a" T$ X' y! U/ L" ]; j

, W4 s. H, ~* V' g; h, C  x" o但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
" v  k1 a! U" r; r% Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" X2 j; y8 W5 p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 M2 ~$ ]; U% w$ A( h4 q& [( W
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' B* ]4 e. t& C! I% ?- Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - h# @7 |" L; ]6 V
but why jesus need to do this?
: g- J: Q1 g- a' H7 qpunsihment for what???
3 G- F8 ~1 K- u4 N0 s( jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* ]1 x% G1 P9 G" K# R( Xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; `! \7 D. g3 l! Y
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* O7 s8 H* M% Lwhat will u do???+ h4 p5 k) W; Q6 h9 I
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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4 U6 A  M5 X  ]2 T0 y# g好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% X! I2 t. E& U: r9 G) F0 A
honestly, if there is jesus
! }, M0 u$ h! K* y/ Y4 K' _) Lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 V5 Y7 M' j/ m1 v7 bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 ?& v; x! k" m, q" ^/ H+ r
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 p  p; s- q, S5 q/ W) }! _2 U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! a. ~4 C$ z5 |" ~9 yso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 o/ g$ }1 S1 \7 b- G
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 B5 K( `0 R/ |1 x2 G
bro singgeihot and rest365days! y$ O( s( i& b. Y' m* e+ y3 C
honestly, if there is jesus8 S/ [0 y4 u4 j9 X0 X- j
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: B( l3 |$ V7 R1 I! c4 [, Y1 }
we can't blow him :cool:

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* Y" @/ f9 j  s7 B+ `! Ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) J' R' T( Q) U; o+ L& v
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! A. _% u: d0 E  b. g. I9 U( k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ v3 n  C# O( T. H, v- m* }haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: