jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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0 B! i1 l( i1 A3 Q0 kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* Y' u; j- v- l/ c$ E  N  p
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 {( {! L  N( J
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 _( O( T2 f' ?- N% _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! Y4 W# ?  ^4 q; kbut why jesus need to do this?# x& X( @6 N- {0 C+ W$ x0 f
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' B: q, j" Q9 n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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) U$ E  l9 t7 B# Z9 y8 ?just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 K! i+ L! P1 z" L, v' {
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 a7 ^- |6 f7 }$ D咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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0 d- z6 g7 |. M; D; I+ Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ S7 c8 F% k7 c% O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- U; n' s9 d. Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ h8 I/ t+ |) w& q; |2 X
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: L/ u( U5 u8 V7 nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# K7 j+ ~: K6 |6 O$ w2 z$ \but why jesus need to do this?# p- m5 D% ^0 p1 A' I, j
punsihment for what???9 K, q) S' a# D* V( d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
) u. |, D3 J/ Q, c/ I0 D8 Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. O, u2 n& B  u. x, w. ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 [3 P4 X" S, j% Q/ `. |! q. ^what will u do???: H/ |$ s+ m/ T. l8 g
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 `: [/ t" M6 ~  x* D3 z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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$ `% u: }1 _1 a2 r& t+ pbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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$ s; W; K( ]8 |2 ?4 I4 i7 U' i3 h議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: d  A9 H. e& t
honestly, if there is jesus
: V" ?2 U+ C# w) r0 g' q+ Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( k# D. v  \( [8 p8 y  fwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# l) g6 q1 J! M0 g$ [
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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9 {: K8 p$ d! s& ?yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( \+ H6 L( H/ }0 v6 ijust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it3 v3 ]# }/ t1 b  P' h1 [
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
7 h6 ~: t4 ?+ r- _now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 L' J+ V. D" F' }& ]) A
bro singgeihot and rest365days
# p. f) U5 B# I" F5 b' Z0 ]$ t6 ~) Xhonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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. Z3 y* S$ N# M6 u0 Tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 j' }1 X6 Y# e: J! J6 V- ]: a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: