jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 O' f$ s8 Y9 n  wcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" ~; H! q8 d& ?3 g% N
why this happen? just simple........punishment/ C, g9 A) m4 S! Q6 @% Z5 H1 ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: M# r/ L- w  B* dbut why jesus need to do this?
$ {( l* Q; z& F1 A' apunsihment for what???
3 C+ ^0 k6 m! j# u# sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ r6 H5 g7 w5 f5 j2 q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, B" X6 W* h" n8 }: d  T8 Jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ H1 [7 E' J! I$ ^, Zwhat will u do???/ C, G$ k+ R- n- v! o  E) v4 X
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:$ P: c9 v5 p3 S

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( Y% e/ ~+ ]/ _; ^/ ^2 jyes, what did u think is what i...

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% D' i! a( C0 W1 z+ h1 j但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ c2 B; @8 I! t  x8 ^  C6 X
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! d; |- [$ j% L' W# `! @: Fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! c& R, B* L% w7 v0 _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 q4 A8 C5 N; ^$ \0 @
why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 a8 H* d+ ~7 A# Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 e8 r' ^4 M+ q, y9 L# |but why jesus need to do this?& x3 R5 f! D' O6 y# e% A4 t& ~
punsihment for what???
  ?9 s- s" u0 C( w1 K' s7 nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' ^& R$ V$ t/ G) ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! ~& q' M2 d: Z0 P1 d8 }2 N( }! B" B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- Z( i7 t" ~( P+ J6 K- Gwhat will u do???3 e& f. w: o. P. [
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : z, k" @, I5 q4 C

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, {$ s6 k+ S1 h+ ~  O" b. w+ {7 ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. _8 Q( G& L+ o$ ~- X& K
honestly, if there is jesus
% D, x# }: [3 nhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% R# T* i2 |; ^: R5 xwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% G% e: e: C; J/ H

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
3 Q8 R$ }" _6 v0 Q* l; [2 ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 J9 S& r9 g4 m) o& Q& Eso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ c) F: q/ W) L6 n8 G) n3 y! S! y3 N% p
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
( B  }/ M" |8 t! w. y, o7 Y+ Lbro singgeihot and rest365days8 o& y1 l; {% l6 v
honestly, if there is jesus& G6 ?8 M5 W+ r. O; m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# ~% j) O* X+ F: ~1 ?we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, ?; {3 t1 t6 [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& L- U6 Q4 N( ^/ ]; A( m& d
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: