jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
8 M& j6 o/ p* \& f; D, s仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( ?% o/ T' y' v. \" y' _+ S
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  D& @- u! O* P( C/ cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 F/ R; c: S$ G  G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 i" f3 n, G( ~% A; e& n
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 L4 T4 M1 o0 C1 y+ _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; n. A" {: s' k5 D* x" `& S
but why jesus need to do this?0 H& z; e7 w" h& l
punsihment for what???8 N- k: o! `+ E  `8 a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 b3 b) y4 P/ v% u* c) S) f, q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" E- Z$ G$ I6 D. H1 W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # a/ i+ O% J0 K, X, D
what will u do???7 t) I1 |" p7 a+ A4 g+ d2 U' w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 H1 ^% c7 X4 R1 D9 _  x

% s* l, j( `& l; _咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! V4 d% l( A5 H, P9 c
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: o8 z* q+ N& I3 N# f: i
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 {8 ?* X( F7 u2 L: O5 W4 @: d: ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 y& P7 w$ D: A8 e
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 J: X! T% K2 d5 n- k. E6 zbut why jesus need to do this?6 k0 t/ i+ T, T. S! V) [* }4 N- N
punsihment for what???7 A% D9 O6 i- s; b# a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# P9 U. X" r5 q2 [# g# s) _% {( i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ _! m& l" g9 s$ z$ W! l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  r" S  p- w  _7 Y/ rwhat will u do???; `5 y# m5 T- Z  ]! k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ g% Y) |0 K! D% N: h: Z8 Y
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' d( |$ g9 g7 b3 b/ }" F

2 _& o  }) m& f議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; P/ d9 Q+ Z2 U
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# O& O9 U- D3 ]# N$ L
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 W+ J: o( U7 H4 g0 J7 `just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it4 {5 }' t6 ]4 @+ X- R% z' ]
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& N2 `3 I5 N' k3 l  z) [3 b# i
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 ]% r* j3 s0 y8 U8 o! b
bro singgeihot and rest365days
; `' s8 S8 E+ j- H+ b" Mhonestly, if there is jesus
: G# c- U3 X5 a( f* uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: \' f" P2 j+ v. U7 P' y; W. Xwe can't blow him :cool:

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' u  p- j8 R$ L: q! ]; z" l5 w7 Tunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: r  Y6 L  c8 W1 d: }2 @
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:( C2 t  M1 U' s' g9 }
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: