jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& i% h+ l+ Y% b6 ]2 Y5 c: C
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% L/ t5 Z+ T2 h% m9 i
...

5 z  B6 B8 d( Y7 x2 a5 v- D& }/ ~' {- H( ?7 g8 D$ I9 O+ p
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) a* ?  @: s% f' e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case* `9 M4 ^" A3 ~) M  g9 u+ Z
why this happen? just simple........punishment, W0 i* ?! X8 g' C" a' L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, J' T6 U/ {$ y/ p9 nbut why jesus need to do this?# f( v& p* [; E  A6 n
punsihment for what???
' {& U0 l  M. m: z( rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! `; `8 H/ ?, Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' n4 I8 ]4 @; a3 Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % |* T; O8 ^1 A) A! I- C/ e6 Z
what will u do???
" f; r. \. G/ T6 F' zjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
/ @$ a% M/ {/ P. i( n, {. D5 [( V# Q+ l8 _
) E8 v0 s+ U, g) h. W2 V# \: K
yes, what did u think is what i...

* a% b0 q! M& p4 A' }1 H+ k/ f2 u

7 E- r* j% o  e2 q; `. H咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, ^( u1 S: T. K0 Y

1 x" e% m5 L9 ?7 V/ Z% c但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
; a  }- x) ?- z/ p4 R* p( N( |- i: `3 [+ o. {/ b
咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! X' p9 n: \' r0 X% {
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 O, I& V' M4 b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ n; ]6 b6 r" @why this happen? just simple........punishment& g; A& g2 ^: i! g6 R
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. v3 W. r- }" t, @3 H/ Zbut why jesus need to do this?0 n: p6 U+ O- z6 s2 f
punsihment for what???
8 T5 R9 T1 {: I7 D9 Zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 n/ C2 F/ z, y% Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: w$ s$ X/ H- j
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 Y3 `0 w: j4 G  L
what will u do???
8 a1 Z' D& V. }* e) [" t2 ^) ^8 gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 t, B- Y; O2 K4 E( v

$ N1 L6 }: n( C
3 y% U4 X2 j9 }0 N3 }sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. R/ G6 y# H( ~7 ~, n' X

. h% D! S1 }/ H1 s' U1 V
8 p! Z( a' [, U) Rbro, did u know that there is a...

, c; O* T* e5 B' l
. t0 `) X# z2 |# J* _! S
* a; E, T1 F7 O: y. k6 |1 b0 J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ( g$ @; O; l/ {6 F

1 r) ]2 Y- w# m6 P! h  j2 @議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 K; p! q( p/ i: Y9 G4 hhonestly, if there is jesus
; r1 y9 k- z1 x& p5 l2 \* O3 lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( r, V- f* l, r- Z1 i, d0 d1 _1 c4 K& Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
# M1 d) C9 O0 T
3 ^2 j3 a* t* x! @1 k/ u: b5 z4 {% C0 E

1 ]" }1 U* W  }. {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

9 U$ h/ {, l$ k1 c4 @9 B
9 e# ]  F" f0 j% J9 t/ j
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 Y6 z1 F6 _( Z5 i
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# z: V5 V' }# U/ o' F' Tso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......1 D. s0 s6 ]0 _& C! y8 Y  S* I
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 r: ~4 e8 z7 d% M& [/ V% A
bro singgeihot and rest365days+ z. ?6 d6 \: k( p8 @' t1 P
honestly, if there is jesus
3 ~5 V  j/ o, G* n7 x6 ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 f; B/ _1 y$ f" a1 e
we can't blow him :cool:

8 Z7 L- \  N: B2 {$ {6 O. {
1 U5 v" {5 E# I, c- h
understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
1 E# \+ E; m" {/ m* a1 A7 X8 lotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ t# ?7 l5 ~5 n* N
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

- j0 B; ~; _* r4 k5 O0 }+ ?0 V# L+ Q4 f; Z8 [" U7 C, j1 z
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: