jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:  m+ C2 U" A6 I! }& v: p/ k" [) ?
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 _% s2 W: g: V& g; j: b+ u
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& w  z# K+ @+ x" ~0 [9 n. X" K" bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 `# s" {* {( Y& C8 }! n7 D1 `comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: F/ M8 d% }- E# d7 |2 z0 \7 u
why this happen? just simple........punishment; V2 g1 t1 v4 w; c8 h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ A8 w3 I1 t; N  k. a0 k( l' Ybut why jesus need to do this?( s. m8 H- d' K- n% M& `. G# c
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& u: q* x4 c7 g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 }2 u% t6 _6 o# \( Q: Y0 ?
what will u do???* k( [' T* u0 |* f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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/ g; |; r7 a4 n& A  oyes, what did u think is what i...

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6 o4 m- t/ A9 w, }% _) B- n# F' C7 B( y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; ^: a# X; F" ~/ ?, e但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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4 q( b! Q/ A" C5 {, U  S* Z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: X- V5 F- ]9 _+ R* U5 ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; C+ Z3 J/ T2 o+ b0 s6 s! Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 ?: k5 F3 A' j4 H. g
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' n0 F( C7 |2 J3 ]many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) X) }; u/ q  p. Z! f/ r  d
but why jesus need to do this?( \: x! V- I; K, J  F: x
punsihment for what???% A" i# Z2 M+ f! f9 |, X; Q8 w$ v  i: E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, r3 x; B" a3 {, E& Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! b- P+ ^+ t# D# z) v; C4 cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  y. a8 N5 f2 @  pwhat will u do???# D3 M1 E$ R) a
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   m0 K" m! f  H2 \  J

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( V+ d& x; Y! B& csorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 J2 K2 r2 }/ ?

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 @  |! c# _, L$ G1 O# {+ f+ J
honestly, if there is jesus, S$ x' B9 S9 X
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
7 W$ R. Y3 ?9 U3 Y) }; e( Z: Cwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 J) v4 }$ W% ?, v; Ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 ?+ h, t0 M, a* m; X+ w, Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& g8 h, y& |2 v2 C
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 p5 k: z7 e# k; H. u% X- \( z; }
bro singgeihot and rest365days; c# f; V& K6 Q' i2 u5 O! O9 q0 P) j
honestly, if there is jesus
7 a' ^8 F0 J/ g2 She really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 [7 x4 [2 Y( h% u9 \& u) Q
we can't blow him :cool:

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! g# s2 K1 M4 J0 t# K+ N! munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ f  b% w& `7 i0 U) v
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  z- p- q  {. W) m% F
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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