jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& }* |8 o+ F9 a/ _1 O  P9 M6 \$ P9 ~仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 q. h& a; I, z0 x: y! B
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9 |; ]8 `3 ?1 N* T8 Fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 d( ^" T7 l; A) r! A0 T3 p6 k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# S+ t! b# ~8 k* \0 t# r0 ?8 k& ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 O- H! W! I. c7 y' }% E& K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" l0 e5 u% q1 }1 B3 _% cbut why jesus need to do this?2 ~: {& |8 o5 X) e3 `5 k
punsihment for what???5 o! |3 p) I3 ]4 B% N  [: k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* E2 B5 Z! m1 |$ F3 d) }* j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers4 M! \6 T7 A- T. F. C/ _. s: ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 \9 m: I3 s& n' w
what will u do???0 b% i' X- y9 {' B3 D" n
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 O* H) k) i) V9 L$ m
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5 _5 m8 _2 Q2 X0 V1 U! Iyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. k; g( D9 G& X* P9 \) P

8 {; [9 I  p* I2 |( B但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 m! H! T9 t6 D
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ k9 W6 A  f# K6 r( P; `, q" e, U3 c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 }2 V' h9 W' \" y! Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ W( ^# l# c. m7 z, Hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; t( t  a1 d5 z2 }/ g/ Q
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# q! \1 g0 C7 o8 h8 b  z( wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& I! m) s; C2 v/ p6 _
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
0 V# ~: ]2 o# B2 T  `' Wwhat will u do???
! K6 i& |3 m# a$ x8 @8 }6 `just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, $ f; w* T+ }- O. q

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 P; X- r+ l6 y0 O! r

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ T/ m2 m: m1 H& B6 }

. g+ _9 O: g0 ]5 S! n7 C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" l, R: K( q: A% G1 G* K) o- Ahonestly, if there is jesus: G7 Y$ l# w* A3 v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& D0 `1 v5 l7 \/ W, P6 T
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
  k8 F( }5 C( V! e. Yjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- i2 {+ L6 L0 j6 k# g! h6 Z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......: i6 _  v4 _+ r# _
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' o# y1 E: ]' t  J$ h2 \, e
bro singgeihot and rest365days
0 I$ H) ~" K4 Y9 f( H$ a* yhonestly, if there is jesus: X9 H  w  F0 Y( z" Z, Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 F, w* M6 v, y6 L
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 ^# p( {1 R$ f/ Funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
' g7 |1 x+ M' s0 q8 Z7 _" V自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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+ F# p& d& D. Ahaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: