jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- N4 ~9 @4 g! I+ _
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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1 z" h$ i& F+ p" @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 J0 Z6 S" i6 O% d% |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; M% X, v% n2 S7 G: q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# u# i" Z2 a( I5 `2 F( L# Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 x2 D6 D' E: `# @; Xbut why jesus need to do this?
6 K4 m- \0 ^( F6 A/ p- q8 cpunsihment for what???$ [" S7 D4 }' k
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. b* V, x6 H. f* z" G
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( x1 T+ k/ c1 c6 e; C
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# m  @0 b& G; B8 a4 p

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- _; E' u$ y8 r) |# P% s9 h+ i咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 `3 G& ?7 k& a
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排( s! w0 X, u* r2 @; m9 ]

' K. [& }' M8 p9 @咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 J  ?4 X) ]7 `2 Mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ h4 l, `0 z+ R$ x' n3 m/ Ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( Q5 b& t8 a$ u! ~# qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 d9 U; [' \3 a# Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ W0 C5 }- i' K5 k" Q
but why jesus need to do this?9 z1 V2 H3 J2 M! d" X3 v) F6 Y
punsihment for what???2 o" O9 w4 s' W# B; u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 O6 B. N  D2 {/ l9 f5 e' P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 B6 j6 ^# ?. o) c- q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! m# s7 Q( ~7 B$ Y" zwhat will u do???4 a) C7 ^6 A- G6 _/ W" `. D% w
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / F3 @2 P: u2 I( |

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- [. d. z5 F/ I) n. @sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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+ k3 K, I6 @8 X4 @& p: U1 E好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 ]$ r. {# J8 u& }4 X# h- u議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ M8 Z; t0 h- n. Z3 n
honestly, if there is jesus
6 |& R1 y1 S  S: `4 B; Rhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' K$ r$ r4 X$ F: @3 T! I+ k
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( R! C# f) [3 }; u% s: }1 x

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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( L: e1 L8 j1 a3 syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
! w7 |+ }+ \- gjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it* Y3 c. |7 @! |7 {7 Y! W# `  h7 I2 x
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
. B) B9 S! u  F7 wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- }0 l, J8 v; B
bro singgeihot and rest365days; f; A9 B; m! \% ~4 i
honestly, if there is jesus$ u- p- N. B5 L+ F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 ~# I  \- S+ }2 R/ G9 eotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 f% ]7 _9 q- A) i
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: