jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
2 j" v2 K* u8 [0 F+ q6 J仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. u1 T/ K, p7 ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. B" @% h# \+ L( k( v( [1 q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( J1 }. o( G7 P' \3 m6 Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! {& P9 F3 g9 G& qbut why jesus need to do this?/ u4 X2 S* V& l. R9 ]0 [
punsihment for what???
6 Q. h0 H0 \6 M5 q* _4 Z2 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 z) y* t$ \2 K7 ~" U9 I" I; u4 r9 [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" e9 \  Y0 p0 }' ^' f0 `; z' ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 E1 w+ e3 V" T
what will u do???, B+ B! h) v5 h3 b: R5 z! j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ Y/ A5 g# x, x3 b6 Y" @. X
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 d6 y3 g' a. T3 s+ |+ d& _; }

# w- ~9 K. U5 c9 _. Y; m咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( @' K& V1 R' fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 B9 \7 K, a% i7 G: ?- q9 K2 \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 i, _+ W/ L' u* \5 c. k" \why this happen? just simple........punishment
9 B& q! k; N' ]% r! C1 c0 |! G8 tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 l6 |( o% |! K8 B# [4 Y+ h! Obut why jesus need to do this?
% F. B1 F. N& ^" ^& Y- \/ ^8 Wpunsihment for what???# D' Y1 n% u/ x& f3 c' [
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 q3 N0 o2 Z1 i3 L$ V& @; J
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers0 U5 R( F5 u- C* D/ o; u1 A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & ]' ?' |, \* d! t! m
what will u do???) n( i$ h% U& U2 S) `  e5 j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 M- _/ a7 ^: G0 Z" v
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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; S; s8 V1 D  X3 W6 i4 C9 ?好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 0 N! C# D) P( [6 r4 Q9 N- p9 T' m
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! Z$ J5 @! Z! ^- O- ?' @+ }honestly, if there is jesus
2 H1 d  _( f. f- Q5 U( b6 d  |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* B$ E8 V3 L! A* ]# W) mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:/ S0 @. {; [  Z
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1 b8 a+ y3 S* Z  n. _) Q# K5 t* f5 Uyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- H6 d1 `7 p3 U0 Djust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: c" ?% r! U! d- Vbro singgeihot and rest365days
& c0 Y9 U. W- r2 y% V5 Nhonestly, if there is jesus4 S3 Z% @, t$ I" N( o, J! K
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 @" P2 t+ y4 O" x2 X# r
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( x. Z" U! F. N( A4 Z5 `自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. o0 U: r+ X8 P' Ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: