jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! [# h& H" }5 q/ I1 q仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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! Z2 e; e& B- y. p1 _% wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. U: r0 u/ Z+ W+ D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 f) ]+ Q( E& W$ f& T0 u8 d
why this happen? just simple........punishment
# F3 [# \; ]- G+ [  N2 b: B( Emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' T2 |; O5 R( k7 q; P
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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  J$ t# ^! p$ a0 R; S" q; pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 u% u! Z4 a( Y( Z
what will u do???) w+ d+ R( w! V* T' ]
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; `* ~5 ^6 D8 b" W5 c: `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 r) x/ \8 C4 d- V$ h' K2 O. X; E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: M( d3 C+ N1 j- b5 J4 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment- W1 w: Q. f! i7 G' n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 U" h" z) x* Obut why jesus need to do this?
; h8 }" E0 a1 ]% e* m9 t$ }punsihment for what???$ p, a! @/ R3 E9 |! ~. f; W2 Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ g0 \9 Y# A  A7 i2 \, Y/ p  Q3 ?- I9 Qtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( Y* z/ g, d- M/ O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 m0 _' `$ }4 s( `2 G, D& ]
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 3 j- [) c( K( t+ _) J) z; s$ B8 v

6 P& F! T$ T. R  f" H& Q* }議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' h2 @. j# W2 C# _3 F
honestly, if there is jesus/ g9 l1 q9 |2 ^: o$ e% c& A7 q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ Z* Y4 g6 S- x7 u9 `1 Y0 w
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. b5 G( [/ S/ ~2 a* @& \

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' ~# v( {! Y' ?& s- ?
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; u- }1 L, C0 W" }( R$ ~9 z* r
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" y) c6 P/ j- _9 i4 h1 `
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:& `- A7 e9 K& y. W& N. q
bro singgeihot and rest365days; P2 O* Y1 t! M! U) f5 Y! d* a, Q
honestly, if there is jesus/ l8 J. U9 P4 \: ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 z' `0 |) C5 x7 L4 G1 H
we can't blow him :cool:

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) _1 U( V8 j2 A/ b. Sunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 V4 N, s& U: H. B4 O
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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4 s4 {9 A7 {* H; i* e& X3 @haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: