jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ e+ ^: d2 \' C+ H" L8 r
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架; k6 n  [" B" a2 e. l7 J
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, a) Q3 [- K0 W8 B" t( i
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: R& W2 e, [( ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( @$ E# Y- ]8 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% q6 P( D* P" K# X  V. C0 ?but why jesus need to do this?
1 P, j$ a2 e8 M6 A1 _punsihment for what???, Q0 ], F+ R& V" `- L2 _' q- z
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 a4 i- ]. E1 ~: x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ D) Y2 C  {0 V1 r' J! s0 Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; s% K/ q+ S- R& @3 jwhat will u do???
" y1 _5 t) w: g' U- T! jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& P3 L1 v; n9 e& d% f# Y+ f4 X

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' O9 {* O' i( e
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% o. p9 y4 l3 d
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 f+ n; u) Z2 Z* A- E5 i
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 S3 W% k& n( Ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  V0 R! x7 {" t6 o# Owhy this happen? just simple........punishment
4 K/ q; O! b& M1 x' xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   J. e, q' K8 R
but why jesus need to do this?
" \8 N# m$ t) O$ dpunsihment for what???$ w6 p" n: l4 R) a! E) S) n4 ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ K1 H9 Q) i! {$ C2 C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- ?: c! R- ~: J9 G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 }7 i2 o: t5 C& xwhat will u do???
6 p( o  }! G4 y/ v! O9 Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : s/ s4 I1 Y2 U: Q+ w8 E+ d% }3 j9 q

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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* T( h  T) J7 g0 i# s  g2 ]好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 d9 \/ J* c2 C- w/ o4 c

) R* s/ z% b% s8 D. o* L1 C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) E. o. ~- D0 k- vhonestly, if there is jesus
; m* r/ Y2 a. s$ s. Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 [5 q, w, |+ H# F  b7 ~- G  X6 dwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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/ \, [1 E0 P& S/ c' \* h3 Lyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. J3 x8 s# l& B& g& M2 \$ K
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# }5 V3 d  F! V( T
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' w( P  n  h( F! t4 E' i
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# [4 ]/ q" i8 s( k2 R$ q
bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 d0 y9 I: E% i4 F* @: thonestly, if there is jesus
2 V. [0 f3 k9 @, Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ W' C* r: a$ s" P
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics( Y4 o" m+ G( g( V9 ^# x, x6 [& W
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:1 {- e# r# q1 f4 x' e, H
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 T1 |6 e6 m3 C" v! l  j& F# Thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: