jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
* y& X: |- D7 O4 l) d8 V) V仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# {5 {. V4 k$ W9 m# P* Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, E: |$ d7 e9 ?; q. U
why this happen? just simple........punishment: F/ T2 C# g+ s. I1 H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , T1 f7 \+ M: c9 |3 s
but why jesus need to do this?+ S- i; U1 Q* b  i- |* p- I
punsihment for what???
; T* m3 O9 N* V5 p# cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* g1 E& X6 L% J7 c; h" R9 I
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  Y0 u& D  a  R, g+ d9 m) s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 d: ~: r+ [. v# v0 _* l
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉' [% M7 A! _" b/ C% e
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 e7 Q3 i2 |; U$ ?) s
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 @$ A+ }: O% H6 r  F
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! s7 _' L! c  f7 O
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 J/ C; j( b# i: Q6 q1 `# {
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! k# S: s5 C# omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
" k1 e$ J, r3 xbut why jesus need to do this?
' \/ E. O+ Q0 cpunsihment for what???+ j1 I5 b1 h$ ~+ A; `! T# G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 a0 Z9 K+ W. B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* K8 B. D/ B  o  F4 v* |6 N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 O% ?( K) ^/ t' W0 \. Vwhat will u do???
- _3 h0 Y; k9 \7 wjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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1 T* x7 j9 z. w6 p0 R6 msorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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$ Q4 K& I) G2 Y3 V& J( N$ k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀   R2 b2 o" C4 Z8 t* A  F

$ i' H8 E& e: k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days. a# V4 {' S" j/ |' j
honestly, if there is jesus! I" H1 x+ K+ o, k: j! ~& K. e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 f9 w! O! y9 z0 g7 S; |0 ]we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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! X! p9 F, e# T/ Z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 u# @, B$ i3 W; ~7 h5 R! v  a3 E- ^
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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1 s. \! u+ T5 Y$ R4 O% w* i% Z' h! @honestly, if there is jesus4 p/ U1 U* }: M" n8 |8 ^! P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 o( H7 ~! s/ N6 O# J) z* f: F
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics1 _# t  [+ u. H
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
8 R  \& T- q4 ?1 @7 Q/ U自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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