jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! C! ?- _. r. B3 P& T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, }6 G: Y. x/ H( {
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- n+ r9 ?( w$ }, C/ Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ s3 O' P9 ~$ @3 u* ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 `! S- ~8 }1 M1 S& P) n* Rbut why jesus need to do this?
0 f1 i5 A& j9 ~; e; |' d+ Ipunsihment for what???
1 k  b' S7 N& ^5 r+ a* K8 Cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. P  V/ v& j" s* J0 i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 ?0 o& u8 @# t" M
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ \& p# a! w# ]7 |1 R5 }what will u do???
* \6 Z4 _0 y( yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 r. o" D7 d+ T3 }
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7 R# n9 R1 Q- ?; wyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉  c# S, q4 g- ^: u% O
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 D- z0 l( \4 Z# jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 t5 V, z5 ]  S. l4 L. bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 _: p7 g$ V$ ?0 M4 V8 ^! `why this happen? just simple........punishment, ]' R& C3 T% I2 F( I7 u8 m
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* V* P0 Z; r8 Mbut why jesus need to do this?, b2 m% H. ]9 C
punsihment for what???
+ L& ~6 v8 T+ c- i6 ?8 ]for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ u: c1 `& O. b# e8 `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: F  c( R' V  Q6 A5 V/ i- }2 r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 Z9 a- |# d3 ?0 m. O
what will u do???0 H& A# W- g7 p  g7 j  ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . L% k  l! I2 J6 ?, F

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* _+ u9 l* t, E7 \+ B+ @2 U, gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ v$ o6 N  z; V! q

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% [+ V0 S5 v* e$ Q" ^. H1 [% `4 x& p好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; K# N" s/ z& v+ n6 m8 y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 e+ K7 r5 V% {; ]5 e/ ahonestly, if there is jesus
" r* U5 [% Z3 r( v/ |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, S" c0 x, n+ R* I+ `we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: {. c5 {0 f. y: t% k好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" S3 p2 |7 Y$ Q# D  I0 t8 b8 U) P% Y2 tyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
- M5 N8 a* u( c  Y1 Wjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
- C, W; J0 U/ c" w. Z4 J/ A7 Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 L$ N5 r# _2 d0 I% i/ x0 Qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ O  w! S) x' _! m( p
bro singgeihot and rest365days- ^) |( s3 V/ B; {  U0 J
honestly, if there is jesus
9 k4 P/ g; r0 Q0 F$ g/ m) o. @he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 V  \3 Z6 \4 D" x* Twe can't blow him :cool:

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9 g9 o( a' t) u0 q& O' Y; y: s0 hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics* I; u- u5 e! H2 b. |3 C$ m
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:$ j/ E! x% D* k; h5 a% {: x
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. I/ U5 [( ?2 X& k0 p- ~) ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: