jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ {2 U7 B7 p; [1 P
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& G% M3 z1 [# s8 }0 \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case5 z# Z' q2 V2 [2 v) `0 b
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 W' m  P2 M! J, [+ m6 @7 O+ V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 h$ R9 a% i# q& H" A# L5 W
but why jesus need to do this?7 s$ p4 F8 t+ |0 |. }
punsihment for what???. M5 {$ i& D6 q' }% x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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: K5 t* P9 Y5 Xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . @4 {3 c, I  o
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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, t0 T$ F7 A# N: b$ Y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 w: g' E  \- s: f; r
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" O" k, Y, |3 _( q/ C
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ N3 ^( i6 ?; \1 u
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 }' g( V0 i% F( Y* u) ]- Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 [# F" X$ c4 X& ?& q7 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" f) Z) `, g3 M1 `# X0 a9 e9 Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 3 l# z6 O) g( b' n$ ?
but why jesus need to do this?
% q/ B0 V/ Q/ c% A. e+ upunsihment for what???
( w7 i" d6 E' c! S: l/ ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" E* l- ~, Q, D5 r- Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 w3 T, X- n- B- U- J0 t2 u, @but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 \( @3 _1 D6 Y% J% f( \
what will u do???
- w: {$ _) O1 h# bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   R/ N8 Q! y9 J$ l

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& M: j  ?5 M& S( p
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 L1 U8 J: l. ^" E3 R7 W. X9 f7 _$ M- v$ P好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; @4 I- T  a' g+ `6 m, H9 D

& s, O; _2 ^, `, k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 N/ y' X6 d% @+ y7 W
honestly, if there is jesus
5 r+ P& k4 L: j$ P& i" K- l& m4 dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ t2 C8 s; O# t6 h# [% kwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 d% |; e9 d: Y* B3 V

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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# N( u. @3 R- x* D# ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) E  k$ A( w# Q  X- e
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ [  e2 Y$ |& }( f! V% Y" t
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# D' }+ H% |2 V5 o: s  o2 ?$ Bnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 x: O3 D9 |/ k2 Z9 |
bro singgeihot and rest365days3 e+ `( J# w+ i% }, W- }
honestly, if there is jesus
/ p8 d. [# g& l/ Y8 u/ g  ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 r: y, _, }0 O7 Y
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 `( ]' G9 T4 I8 H  S- r0 xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 C# a* ^/ I$ L# P$ K8 G( a9 \4 C
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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, z* q1 v9 O) f3 Khaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: