jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  |3 B# S: A3 l1 F9 S9 N* ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; v0 l9 U3 F" qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; S9 d4 Z1 t" V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + s8 J" W  \- a$ B+ \% [* e
but why jesus need to do this?9 o, N3 I6 k9 |+ O' g: M, F' o4 G
punsihment for what???  L" T8 i6 z2 y$ M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* z: z/ y9 b  ^% Rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
, K# o& _' J/ Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 k' l8 b* l  ~: d  y3 y. ^' d

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 u- v; i! J9 i, D. a
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 u4 |+ i" R$ i6 _9 e# G7 \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 }8 p0 d! x: \, z
why this happen? just simple........punishment- Z% q6 K( z2 |) H$ r2 |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 X' |& L: F7 _# Q% @  X' M. Q; ?but why jesus need to do this?
8 ~, x! {) F$ y9 G) Qpunsihment for what???0 C8 X% N3 u1 {1 T
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 V0 ?. `9 r4 C  L6 Ntry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 M; y5 N7 h; M; i8 d* Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 Q' L& y  D; Q( G: nwhat will u do???
. b8 t5 a1 _) Q$ U. u' w' Gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 ^2 U" [* F' }" F$ F3 k  u

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) T0 s# A& ?! usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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) g9 i4 z7 s3 G, V1 H議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 X" E! N: v( N
honestly, if there is jesus1 }) s5 B; l, {( V) c- ?- n
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 j$ V# V* A7 r9 T! P- Z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* H& r3 t- L$ }# y* w; B/ @9 p: S

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 Q' B& E( K% R
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: r2 j3 i1 T: g" G2 O: p0 ?so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 v+ c" b* x. u: g7 t; lnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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2 o- b9 ?/ n# }6 A" y8 J6 ~honestly, if there is jesus: q( M5 W, }0 L; w4 F- F3 u3 s
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% q: t7 m% C) _4 {  w
we can't blow him :cool:

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" B8 u5 ?& d! ?- Punderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! C" p& I8 \6 E4 totherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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7 w2 F9 @( A. D3 whaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: