jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 e' v+ R4 D) ~  ~, p3 vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. m# P% x: u( @" J, z1 Q& V0 r1 kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
5 p% S; a: H  O7 Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( m, _) u" ~0 g8 p- S" zbut why jesus need to do this?
  {5 {0 w( _0 J, _, Jpunsihment for what???4 G. G$ B- p( ]1 d7 \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& Q. c% Q9 Z/ g! g& |. d6 ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 C+ b5 e; N6 i! n+ S' ]5 Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 s0 F- m) P7 q9 d! ~# o
what will u do???
5 \5 g' Q+ [2 Z& ?8 njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) \) g  u* s; |* A. P2 O2 o9 O

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 s. I5 o' {9 T$ M3 n; S+ S
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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- }7 w1 M+ {9 V1 z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 Y* j% d' L$ U. _4 r! C
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 z* C' L+ d2 e9 ^comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, l+ J2 J" k+ q8 }1 [4 X8 Fwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. g- c% q+ h# B$ z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! R' A% S2 _6 k4 c7 jbut why jesus need to do this?
- R+ e. I, l9 [0 P( R. N6 l7 r. Lpunsihment for what???
) d: r, u2 s  |# [7 ^3 Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  z* U# M7 N" _1 t: T# _try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 a; H( ]9 a% K5 K' Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * Y( H1 j6 J) y! i  o
what will u do???$ x# [) \! B7 F9 {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 x1 v  M/ ^4 L: ?: H; t% g! ~bro, did u know that there is a...

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; Y' B" ]0 j: r; e2 O0 n& P議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 i2 ?) {+ o% M
honestly, if there is jesus
5 {) Y+ J& n8 z  c( Z% u+ ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( g% _8 `) q$ j4 a$ }we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- c( l" }  r( s& z+ E* p
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 g4 m0 ~2 ^- A0 F! z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ B5 G7 D" f9 F1 D
bro singgeihot and rest365days" r$ U: t$ Z  p1 V
honestly, if there is jesus6 }9 G( S& Z+ V( A2 G- |! \( _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 b$ I4 ?* y+ s4 v3 y% E! m; N* Zwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 S& q- W# O$ r+ \otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
( m) ^  Y/ o! r4 S4 B/ c' S自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: