jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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( e7 a: c: `$ V- I: M+ O3 @5 f6 Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; ]7 p6 G5 `( x+ p3 |- \% t, r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 a' I6 ?6 w6 O: W" L3 ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) h7 ^# A& v9 P9 X! Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% M+ B! x2 e0 v7 R$ dbut why jesus need to do this?
6 O! Q7 n8 |6 y5 k2 V& j/ bpunsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. s* R0 j7 ]" o* ]' L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
& s! k; t5 ~# G) Z, Y8 v6 p. J( ~/ Awhat will u do???
, f, @3 m% q9 Y  E% @- I. g( gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# b6 _3 }: E5 E- K: n2 o
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0 n7 p9 r7 P4 y7 C* @( Y/ D7 }yes, what did u think is what i...

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7 s& i4 m4 v6 f, I3 v. f: W咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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4 [( ?: }. `7 C) E9 ]5 Y- A$ M1 o. r但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 ]5 }% V* l3 e$ E+ d7 m0 u
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( F" d+ D) f1 K3 mcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& r9 P9 u9 i  @4 C; }
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) Q3 p# q+ h2 \0 ?; Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 r6 ]8 u; _" _) q1 `# t  f1 R
but why jesus need to do this?
2 Q7 v7 F! N1 F$ u% o! Kpunsihment for what???
! V/ P9 ]2 R% p8 t) ?% |$ Wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! o4 v) ?! p& Q, Y" L7 S' A1 S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 L5 z; E* U2 F% B0 y6 }4 R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 H: ?7 y3 q, V7 I! Z& G; K" E
what will u do???
; v+ V3 M, ?' U$ d( \9 A4 pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! g0 i+ c6 t2 X9 t) |

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 s& N- S: U" `
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 d- w# o) L& d4 j) ^
honestly, if there is jesus
4 K# Z% q- _. V5 }( P9 z: n0 [he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ ]1 q9 N8 ^) D2 X2 j; \2 A2 n
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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* m6 X' B- M4 [; f5 c- Oyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) l! W- d7 H# o& g4 j9 ~just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it  _# @7 t* q! b8 Q/ @( Z6 Y. x
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* C( K+ Y# q7 Q0 S: n
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:( z/ j; _$ M( E7 l* |
bro singgeihot and rest365days9 e6 L7 @3 Y8 W$ R5 M' x
honestly, if there is jesus& I/ s( ]6 T! V  o* |
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, F0 n; w' I% S1 G8 k& I
we can't blow him :cool:

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/ n; Z: m9 P. }understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics/ I5 `: K$ G0 q% `
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
% F- l) n: C- K& X  o- l  Y/ W自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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