jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
' d$ M3 ~. m# A$ y" m! d; k仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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# D+ h# z8 }; W/ Bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. [! b( {  L2 O, p& R% v
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ p+ [8 q( X3 G$ n) Z- r. N
why this happen? just simple........punishment
: Z$ h* x5 x% R" K* hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 f% ^) j9 w7 i
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" \" ~4 x, _9 E+ \8 W
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ j2 j7 j$ ]* p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  _  e+ Y  f0 k6 ]0 |

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) i& `, A' p; e3 fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% X. m; h$ A0 q# ]+ p! I6 Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 e  F8 q  _' ^" s7 D7 C, kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& j  Q) P6 Z" _, Q, d% mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * k! U7 Q& u% O) E
but why jesus need to do this?
9 D6 A2 U; t1 Z7 g% m, e2 C& k$ Gpunsihment for what???1 J) K( @* V- t
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ L5 O# Q8 P- N5 p
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, x2 E0 O$ ^9 i/ X' {1 a( Y5 G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 j6 P, ^$ w! [; h, W2 Vwhat will u do???4 R/ V' ~+ J7 ^/ Q: c4 R' y& Y7 ?
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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6 _' u2 m: P2 U5 x, o0 [) Z6 [sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ e1 [& ]' n  g! X
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: @8 [2 P1 ~; v  D8 Q! e3 f
honestly, if there is jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, \, l! ?5 ?, P( p

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
7 o3 J1 b2 ~) F% Q& [just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
& ~* i6 I: S7 `7 W; D+ Nbro singgeihot and rest365days
* g' x! S4 s  l" c, ?; nhonestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" _2 Q) P' n% |$ Y: y0 e, u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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9 [5 D$ o5 Q! whaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: