jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, P" L9 }1 @4 u# u+ ?
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  n: q7 M7 }' x8 F. {( `* w  }8 Q
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' V- F  R' F& y5 J/ ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 ^# W7 y$ _% Bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. P! @8 o) q+ _- l% g7 K' A2 G
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 S0 h2 k( D8 \5 Z7 E* I7 X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 O# Q3 b! N% o* f% t# obut why jesus need to do this?
/ K1 ]6 f* Y. G# Y# l. ?6 ^punsihment for what???) C0 w. t0 \) B! W! u, R  y4 i8 F& ^7 ]
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. \/ L4 {" O2 [- m0 d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 u8 v; r2 J' s) ~) Z( E8 p) H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . M% H/ K$ F% G) o# l
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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* ^+ s% j% j, {8 fyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% ?% w+ b' [- I# G9 }
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. z$ N9 q2 s  g

; ]& k) U/ h5 Q0 ]; W咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 ?% j; ~* n0 S$ Z- y: Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  [! u$ l# u: F1 m- c5 _comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& |0 m& t! x4 q2 w1 K" }3 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment' A& r+ F" [( j3 m7 _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& r" n, T3 w0 ?# j1 L; B+ {. Rbut why jesus need to do this?
1 H. w1 j+ I+ O- L  h! ]punsihment for what???
! K! N) G( w4 w" Q. R/ `7 nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! m$ Z1 _) Q" M, ^8 j$ Y2 utry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  V% f1 Q/ m0 u: E" J+ f. V
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 y- [2 @$ B9 \what will u do???, t/ d8 c6 d. P  F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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( G) [; n: k. Q$ ibro, did u know that there is a...

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; G( }6 c, C2 T( T  P1 e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 + ^: c' ^) Z: f+ K- I! v' J  n
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days7 C5 {. V( }; O9 d
honestly, if there is jesus0 h" t- I  U! j, n' c0 d$ l
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# N7 T" i# d$ c2 ?  E0 {" bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:# X8 E. {/ D% _
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& P- E  Q! @' vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
% D) t, Y( g+ y, u  M4 F+ ?$ J2 c$ Rso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
( z) m' J! Q2 o8 onow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" c) y8 K: r# `$ Y$ i, V
bro singgeihot and rest365days  v+ \( s5 |2 v* h. I1 u
honestly, if there is jesus
* p. e8 G. C/ Dhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. e8 g$ c( Z% J# q% w  D3 N2 `, d0 @6 j
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, A) d  Z: a# a
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:% a6 N7 u5 S$ E2 I
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: