jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
3 B& I7 m$ P9 t# `$ N8 W* J仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架; Y7 ~, p8 I' w6 M2 B
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# |$ N/ K4 ?+ l4 P* ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. o& u! I- S8 h3 x9 ]+ rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment9 r! R) J/ h% L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , ?9 o- ]9 E4 n  Q1 S& B
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 N# s$ @) {# I* {- O
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 f5 p, B4 u, ?  \' z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; a" _$ H' F. |
what will u do???
3 |# x5 a5 `" S/ e3 t8 y: l& Qjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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5 h3 I. ^* `+ |  B) t: u咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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* A0 ~4 C9 l# F4 O9 F9 Y但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# o9 Y& Q0 T8 x5 u) s
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- T: T  \( N2 Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 c/ T; R5 I  Y& z4 |/ X* k# Q/ \why this happen? just simple........punishment$ T& b. f. F/ j% h2 M
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
$ C9 d/ J* o5 l  ]but why jesus need to do this?6 j4 i9 Z: h# ~& M5 D. s
punsihment for what???
4 I: S" R1 _8 A$ z7 pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 o6 c4 j# x& itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% }+ U: d: C- \- ]' w! q1 h( L$ bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' C* x8 t2 W1 T1 i4 kwhat will u do???) O% Y  A. V2 ?( M5 Y  h
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 2 f# t% @! e$ a2 P* h

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2 d) u. \" F. r& ^sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 V( i$ p- P. y2 A8 V- X

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8 O& \5 v: O2 A% S好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( d6 }6 H! H3 K
honestly, if there is jesus0 s6 D. c/ e. L7 {8 ]# x" F6 q) `8 l7 ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; H! c: R, h! p- pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' e! W' q$ K! {6 q+ C

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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* s) \4 }9 a1 Gyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( r/ d$ M6 {: O8 c8 M, _
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
, ]& b+ Y# o7 q! u, H0 jso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" @9 H7 B0 g$ h& v" D* a" t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
. I4 W  U1 J! G4 Dbro singgeihot and rest365days0 q" I) J, v) @* o3 R
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
9 ^# I' {4 N' B, D" e8 _* @% cotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  C; k+ E; l, N( {+ n- n0 L6 h自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: