jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) ]# `8 }0 J2 R: b: P9 B, e1 \
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, J; g% O- v" a0 l3 h% l
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 D2 q9 V" H+ Q+ j$ }/ J. Ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment( U* m9 S' q; a5 M' ~0 H5 d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* g$ f$ ]6 C' m$ V# s+ _+ {but why jesus need to do this?
) V8 V! S0 k2 D  l7 q( Z3 f! Epunsihment for what???
/ H. K8 g# B2 \' c+ Tfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% x9 K+ C# e+ B3 }; xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. m) D6 M3 k7 d1 [- F6 Q/ s+ `" n5 vbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & X% }' f4 y2 E& _6 O9 r8 i
what will u do???* O, A. l* K1 g: a# j; d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) l- y! M$ X0 v' I9 V

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$ {* Q/ @* C/ M3 h" Fyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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- X' l. j, d/ B8 C0 Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排. l0 }, ?% F; H3 \. M4 M2 P# o9 d
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- Q/ p% f# F8 i) wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( ?' W% U4 G- r) s: m# m; w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 q/ B) A$ I+ q% k3 {% g% G
why this happen? just simple........punishment
; l8 C% z8 v1 M8 R3 Tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) K- R( t2 I) u" |6 V& I" I9 c! Jbut why jesus need to do this?4 e# P# Z( R* P7 r) Y" [
punsihment for what???! g5 h& u1 M9 ~, f* W
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ }. d, ^2 f* w7 G) P( u# @try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 h; Q& q0 [" u% L5 `( r7 u4 n
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ S7 d% G, r: M; l4 T
what will u do???( i4 L" q: y& O1 p" W; f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 j! ~6 N3 Z, G7 m# J
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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6 c& e$ a4 }. N好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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$ W' A  Z8 V# I& `" M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 G/ w0 R- U, j* _1 X
honestly, if there is jesus% \: N- T! b+ p4 A
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ E' t# _( i  l
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 x# v' @& g( R
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# d; G# y4 r" R9 G  J好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" ~) C4 ]+ ~2 i2 iyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 W( T% ?6 T4 Y- X& W9 A
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 t- _, j4 A0 {% @+ q0 Qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
+ C8 B" S0 O7 w0 C$ M2 ?$ u4 [$ xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
0 l3 C4 @* V8 M) ?bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 V0 h# y6 \  ?1 H: I0 h$ zhonestly, if there is jesus. _, D; j& d( L( l: @; [- }
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. _. F, b4 y* \) O& p5 M! G1 T
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
7 H2 ]$ S+ {+ X自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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. x  v; d# [& q% m8 U8 g6 U3 a  ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: