jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) q& e  a9 [  V6 A% p
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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- ?$ }( G) q0 w8 F9 hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 C( o+ d" K- q) |0 h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 L+ I% g7 v7 h) ]" n/ _. }why this happen? just simple........punishment
( N4 }# N" E  z0 Y6 Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 ?" I' B9 k- {" ^1 K
but why jesus need to do this?
% k' ?8 U, V- ~  ~+ zpunsihment for what???8 L4 {1 y( r+ T- \
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. B  D! @! v$ F" n5 Y
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! A8 |; ^. ^( {( s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - b( Q# ?3 [+ H& d9 M9 V/ z# Q
what will u do???& K- H- j+ `2 q/ \
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 A0 h4 M0 _; [, n8 p6 s
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; G" q3 m5 v- {; Y
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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4 R. v- l: N( H) x  O' p8 f! N咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 M1 v( \+ k0 p% `9 B. }1 O3 Z* V
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 D% U( {( N/ W7 P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. @8 t' ^% V6 E8 P% T+ a
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 M1 R2 z2 t1 @& h& d2 F4 n
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 h% q" k. m* C0 V2 ]" `& Tbut why jesus need to do this?6 ~' w2 i# ^4 b$ N
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- w+ Q+ l& j1 x5 A3 Z5 qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' F* ]( G: k& u% U& r  Y) U9 z
what will u do???
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4 V$ S. Q  {1 ~( {8 g  k4 n4 n: {sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  L% P9 a7 \, h6 K% T

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: n2 u- K! F& `& _$ s) }honestly, if there is jesus
$ C& u8 }" I! m, l) Ohe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  r4 {& X' K  A; h! u* [  E1 p. Xwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' w) H; g7 x9 U; k$ f

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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" i% {0 {5 g% [) M; i  e  S8 ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
7 n& j* V; }' w& X- pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 {' q  {5 e+ ]1 F+ b* z& u& fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% E* o7 ~! ?5 @& U+ ~2 f# Q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 G! O6 D0 d! [5 F" E
bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 `6 n6 K% k& J8 \4 D# j; D% Hhonestly, if there is jesus/ {/ ^+ Z% B2 ~0 x; i: S/ h
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 M1 @: V% U/ s; mwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, H0 n' Q: u$ K6 ?
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 k( L8 K3 P, S9 B+ v; s3 C$ o5 B: Z自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# ~0 v2 s' r* U, u& ^6 {* Jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: