jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 y" J  l+ I" u仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& G' \6 c5 `8 m( h0 F8 L
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% V5 A. a, d% s$ v* d& M, Gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 Q# ]) Q" l6 G9 Z0 C: O
why this happen? just simple........punishment- J: a3 E9 a1 C4 A" l7 ]% e1 m! h
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! k/ I. J( Q9 ~. R7 J6 J
but why jesus need to do this?5 ^" b. R1 Y+ K( X- w
punsihment for what???
6 u+ p9 P8 p) I% @for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* V! ?* f4 }  L( |! J
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 l' `& y0 Y/ p3 F- y% i- l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: C- E% ~8 g; c- `! R: a

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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; f/ q/ r5 z% @咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 X  n9 e9 r8 r/ x) f- {& B
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) _# d+ l' Z. k! `# O+ M0 S

$ b7 h* K/ K8 Y& X) A, n咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
; j: r4 J% r9 T& z! K6 ?% O1 j  W" ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) u5 Q% x3 L: J" B/ v; zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case  g* @  B6 L5 z$ _
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 X# r8 M5 i7 i; N" C2 E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # m5 F0 G0 |, j' n
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! E& X: Z: K. w& x" m
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: {# a0 N& O( F1 X4 ^$ Q6 `& G8 J- b
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . H6 ^4 p, }8 E/ A
what will u do???6 b6 G& t) X2 {) L2 z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 8 ]3 k& N2 @* h+ J

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9 B$ Q% P; H8 R4 osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 ~! _/ e  Z4 k7 i1 U' F4 j  D
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. h! |8 Q3 v' I  Tbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) e' g( i$ x. X" \( e( i1 E8 r( M$ b

/ p% b8 S' M- @9 q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ M+ }7 M2 L6 w
honestly, if there is jesus
% X. ?* x9 W4 e. r0 t7 C- Xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus" A' t5 F* I1 R$ P8 y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; ~; K  a  `1 R
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it6 ]5 v! U. X. ^) p7 ^0 d
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......) A8 b9 A3 U# `" G0 i5 G1 t7 |
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: L$ j7 w6 @  O: x
bro singgeihot and rest365days% R( ?8 n/ T- F, S- ?% ]5 Y  u' z' S
honestly, if there is jesus
9 _& D; D0 D. C0 lhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, X7 t# ^; M7 U3 n
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 V) g/ d. p( N; d, \: p: c) Dunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 s$ {! B$ U, g0 J& s; j/ `otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:9 b6 w$ `2 v6 T  y, l& t( w
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 ^7 g) [, u) T7 Chaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: