jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:1 E" m9 K# Y  t( k' W
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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) T$ @- u' k- g0 o+ [bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 S0 d5 i4 Q' j( d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) L5 f2 a! w# n( L
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) m8 x) L( A" b7 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, }; }( E8 C$ X9 qbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 W3 p# C9 Q: e3 C' H
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* G1 P' k5 Y: @) \  ^" {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 k7 N+ {( c- r
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) Q9 k. D; C. ~: z4 x

! M1 q4 ?0 f; X( g' z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' ^% s! _/ i0 l- p: ~. V) K% H3 |' {
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 {1 A/ a+ z( }3 I0 Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) q3 _2 G& u7 G/ Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment" b7 R3 {' D1 j3 }' _* L7 B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 \+ ^  m6 W8 Z8 H* |
but why jesus need to do this?
( P( F% e& ?( @6 K, s% Apunsihment for what???
; M* E  N$ j, o" ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ B4 @) a+ `. Ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 [; L9 L0 m' s' Y; O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* A& G' R! C/ I3 H; nwhat will u do???
7 _7 A- J* _& d! g7 f( Cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ! x! I9 N! Q! Y  B6 W5 V! x: f" z4 i

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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3 b' w1 F3 W* A! X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, Z3 g% v6 F2 Z& P
honestly, if there is jesus6 e5 w$ x, ?4 T# d. Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 `; }6 ]* J% Y+ D, q. s8 }
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
; [, b/ t2 ~. S- E# i; Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 ^" w- A0 x) i6 @
bro singgeihot and rest365days. ~$ m+ m3 z* G! D" q7 t& J
honestly, if there is jesus
2 v) k) G& @. x! d/ Yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; w+ `* X6 f" Q/ n) [: D
we can't blow him :cool:

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3 M1 C, v4 W# f1 Junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. p5 _5 r- I' ?' a5 [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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" D- N& Q0 z2 F5 j. m& Ihaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: