jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ ]. p# p, j7 Y  ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 |. f0 A; z+ _1 Y0 j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! S& V/ \9 I( s6 Nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 T1 R: E0 V0 }" qbut why jesus need to do this?2 C' B; y) G( e1 x2 P
punsihment for what???
0 K+ N0 F4 \2 U! Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 q; J" p& b. B) L) R$ W% e9 A
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ ^) n: C7 \1 A* _. O; a
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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1 K/ b( g/ W$ k5 kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉2 k" Y7 ~* T; B4 p, Z$ F% I' J

3 K. k2 C; J6 L6 h! b: S但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排& ]$ N4 P2 ?$ s

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# n+ @) Q! g* d
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ L, ~) S% g$ |  q7 `& I* h  g2 h% K/ W/ ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ o. v5 N1 v1 }/ dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  j, K2 G( ^$ V; ]; Q' `$ fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' ]$ C8 t. L+ rbut why jesus need to do this?
1 }% H! @: n$ |. ^/ F8 Z# Mpunsihment for what???0 _: L" l' q+ b8 u% [. c
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" e2 s( p% f0 d% R$ \try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' K$ p, t2 J2 f2 ^1 [& w0 I
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u , J9 m7 h6 m* z' A4 f5 q! e0 W2 @
what will u do???
2 {# T8 l( N# }0 j/ cjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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" L2 s$ ^# ~' Hbro, did u know that there is a...

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1 {* U- P- c6 Y) d. K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; ]- N2 ~; R. F! ]6 u
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 V+ A* _6 l8 z. ^4 rhonestly, if there is jesus
# ~. S/ D, Z- I3 O6 fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; J$ D! S: J- V  x* ~
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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2 _8 q7 n# A+ P# O$ p7 _yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( \+ y( K. d' F7 ~6 c5 l
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' V' z7 \0 T1 I3 ]so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( P6 I8 h/ v2 r/ d) l( S  t
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
; Q+ n3 ~1 y, d- C, p$ c! |bro singgeihot and rest365days* M% t9 ]" b4 T0 |& T. t. ]
honestly, if there is jesus, U6 B, Z' _0 b+ S
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; |4 N2 d, @, W  |+ A
we can't blow him :cool:

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2 `3 W: F( ?- \/ G  l9 P$ @, V8 Aunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 E+ }# u) \4 m/ C4 i
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: