jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
* S, ^  M. n$ Z% m- L仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  e" ~) X# W; ?6 D! {. C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 G7 i0 u- L: r2 p6 pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
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but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:" Q) s4 b  U1 C- H6 D+ K1 j) a) ^

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* V0 D- w' i! E$ {! Ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 B0 O7 C: `) ?* Y+ rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 |: K3 i+ m+ m) [% s% u
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 Y' k9 V7 A  }* x+ `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - c  Y& d" x& ^4 P# ^
but why jesus need to do this?  H4 ~% M" y3 {/ q0 g% k
punsihment for what???0 Q1 _' Z+ A2 h; L
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% A2 G7 A% a$ P2 K+ g1 `
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 a- s9 U  g- K5 T' o* ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ( k. O$ W8 G* L
what will u do???3 z0 I8 {7 I* e+ H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; t$ W: m7 R- k: I$ T2 K" \5 v

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0 @9 v  |  @$ V7 `. M! u( |. `* W9 J2 qsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 s1 w+ M( N3 a
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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0 d9 U9 b' w9 G% Y! Q5 _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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9 o" ?5 x# O0 ]* N# Q議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: n5 i8 W; i4 w. p! T" H8 l3 x
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 U" S! x$ }$ j" ?. w- L; O& \
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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: q: ?3 D) V4 y8 U! Z3 Q$ uso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......1 Z! d( d4 X/ P( E+ w
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' ^7 `1 u  ~" hbro singgeihot and rest365days& I; e- r; I5 G* q
honestly, if there is jesus
+ i  J. K% R" N5 Xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' t# h' r% ~! o% L$ A; q9 u. C" rwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
3 A8 Z& v$ u7 R4 _/ n* }自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: