jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) t' h8 w! b! L4 w
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% I: S4 C5 v' I8 ?- C( H' N
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 A) w% m8 ?; o' |$ g5 @/ gcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% k5 Y! y: e+ R0 {7 B
why this happen? just simple........punishment
8 N6 n4 {* ^8 N3 s4 cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! a) D( p0 p- V3 Ubut why jesus need to do this?
, |0 \1 X( g% z" _punsihment for what???6 o- n: C( F$ Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! J" N; h6 B8 }' a7 i/ r# E- dtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 g  Y1 Z* d0 h2 S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. {  ~6 K( \/ c9 K. E8 Swhat will u do???
6 x. z! X- M! ]2 x; K" l+ djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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0 x5 |8 f8 \' J' H但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 n' S) V0 Y8 v

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
3 u3 A3 w( o( Sbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 ^! c6 q& E6 M% X; qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; S0 Z- b8 E0 b0 }$ K
why this happen? just simple........punishment& E3 n1 H- g9 c# D$ A8 \
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # @: h9 P: n" q7 U
but why jesus need to do this?6 p6 T$ j* a% B. o7 a! ?
punsihment for what???
6 e8 u/ t' S, }, ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ [! ~8 K3 D0 ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 H+ n" a3 y  Y5 x9 r3 h3 ~6 k2 `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 b2 g$ n6 S2 x+ c( u% q( m3 f% A
what will u do???
6 ?) H9 T( v) @1 m# e' c; ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, . ?( }6 i; V7 P' |

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 d8 O* X$ P2 C( q  y6 I

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 n+ L! ?3 Q) ], @1 w/ f6 Phonestly, if there is jesus! R; z; N5 T0 ~2 h$ m5 o. e
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% X8 |& u  M9 Iwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
$ r7 G: c6 B$ h  z  A2 w  Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 J2 k$ C- w2 ^4 ?9 V) k* r6 b: {9 Yso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......1 g( c* R) e8 T- _) n3 _
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ Z5 K. S! ^/ D+ ]5 Nbro singgeihot and rest365days
. s1 U% }% }. ^, C% h0 j& L* ?honestly, if there is jesus# x# q2 B# d% Y1 [( Z+ ?: O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 W+ S/ t+ z( U! v
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
" ?& E% s" y# y+ E" u1 C. Xotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
2 z. Z; x3 R+ u/ K$ V( N# f自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 V. B* V8 `; ~7 y) Yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: