jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# V- A6 k3 s' e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! [! }! D" p' @: \/ V! W
why this happen? just simple........punishment! i0 L( d( |, U; V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
0 F+ \- D5 a! F6 {' v- w) p' Gbut why jesus need to do this?
; E* R+ p5 i3 K2 }7 }punsihment for what???
( F# x" i" z5 \1 o" _4 mfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 A1 O1 d" @8 V5 Y# B: Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% a* q" s8 N/ p# m$ W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & f& ^8 `) _( }7 a) M8 V) h
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- E5 T. k/ l; T5 X* xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ B: `0 t" L: ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% j- m$ P' f7 h4 c5 S+ L. }8 O6 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment# M+ t: v+ D& ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 r% D" g  `" t2 h% L2 ^
but why jesus need to do this?7 T" @) ]/ c8 e4 j* e
punsihment for what???
) ^: l# [4 o  L$ j& ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; V3 m) u' b) `' R0 P5 z
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  K5 j/ C2 G( c- \0 C- k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; w, G( v7 J) o  d$ b4 Owhat will u do???
. y3 Q! Y5 ?' X. l1 i, S) M6 L$ bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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: |# ~' r- u. Y( i4 e" dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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7 E+ R/ \9 c7 m% ?- f  r$ @好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 4 r/ v/ ?+ ]& |* e7 @

3 x7 C6 L$ h2 q) m議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days, U$ s$ t$ o8 `' E4 k8 u- w4 z, K0 l
honestly, if there is jesus
$ i5 M. m/ F/ F: }; S: Z- a7 x" hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' L* W  p5 e$ [6 c: z2 v
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
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so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  B- X; d1 j6 p. I* G
bro singgeihot and rest365days  V+ i. r2 G2 G1 X8 G) {7 z' l, M
honestly, if there is jesus
5 r' |) c6 c% ^  ]7 `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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- R% ]8 R, l% U! ]7 l" A" @understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics3 ?: j" u' f+ H8 f/ B+ e
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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