jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ U* V' E2 E: ]* n
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  G* U8 {7 ]7 u& c' s. Y
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9 H8 D' u' Q7 \bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 d5 T4 x9 l# w+ X2 Fcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) \3 |7 G/ g7 k" }
why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 ?7 L" `2 K1 S7 fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 B3 h3 w9 x  i; }
but why jesus need to do this?% N/ o9 c! I+ b7 G& S
punsihment for what???8 s3 A; r0 {, s( d1 e5 {/ ?
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 j- C' X9 {4 `1 C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- k3 m. J" `( k" b) Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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) @% A' r; ~' A2 Q- F! F, `# W0 Iyes, what did u think is what i...

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, i* z' w3 u; {! i6 Z4 D1 F咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( P% K; {$ y, s3 x0 Z8 q

5 G3 {( }! H! D' `但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 U& k- c9 L0 s& M5 B

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 z) ?3 p$ F3 S( F8 Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
; y/ [8 Z/ P/ h- A( q5 h4 G( v  q3 @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- J/ V- f# [' L' Gwhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 b& p" S/ j8 i) Q. H7 d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 t4 c0 t8 h' C! h( q2 Dbut why jesus need to do this?. {5 f% x# T2 m8 S' h0 Z2 c
punsihment for what???, ^$ j+ ?) q; ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus. W; f" S- v( n8 }+ ]. T% g
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 r: u  j# f/ q% @6 z6 L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 D8 D! c' l( o9 r2 V/ jwhat will u do???( |  U2 j. J6 @3 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 P. n8 b6 @4 A

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 o; C# _& V9 {# ?1 U" {

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 " `' v3 N( \! E
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
& h: U+ N3 S  B# ]) ihonestly, if there is jesus
4 t& a6 j1 @& Xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ P$ O1 @+ `& K- N. M) hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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" g* H0 \$ ~% r2 P- |6 x, xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- u) g. {! [, a; H. q: @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' @# m+ J0 X5 r8 s* E. _/ L
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... M' Z& D0 @6 u1 W
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# s( }9 q; n- @5 K6 B, Z; E$ Nbro singgeihot and rest365days- _& v) t5 f- u2 Z& Q9 O4 `8 Q$ O$ ?
honestly, if there is jesus! R( L" V) y- F7 O4 Z! F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  E6 l! i0 h; wwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; a' I- C2 T7 f4 r
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: