jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
9 w% d' w2 `4 z) k仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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% _+ F- A3 _+ U/ A: u, Z8 e4 ebro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ G* w2 g! z* [2 V: L& E$ y9 c6 s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ V' e3 x5 b/ k! m$ h( ?why this happen? just simple........punishment! H% |/ v5 V4 u% {4 }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! V0 t# \( k$ B0 ]8 Ubut why jesus need to do this?" Z6 ^! }) W/ O2 S) A/ @4 c+ d2 Y
punsihment for what???
& m, z; E# i; s3 q' V/ {  Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* p) t8 U( D$ W, }+ {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 M# F: F  j! Q2 o2 j' J9 {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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" {% R& c6 E) m$ c: S- H  ~just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 c4 Z" h6 _/ ?9 z( d* O' ?' q

' W/ n/ J! b: X4 O" k* b: w但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: Q! o; F9 j( v$ N3 b( Z! G1 Q7 k! @bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) G* F! x' ^: c7 S' acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- j* d9 [) }# E$ R  S. R
why this happen? just simple........punishment, X9 J: V  R+ n: @: ?' M8 b4 L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ @: ?$ Y7 K  e9 D, Vbut why jesus need to do this?( O! ^" n2 N4 p. Z. q
punsihment for what???
* o1 B  Z9 H/ c4 h7 f2 V% yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ J- K' V+ J& [* h* n4 _4 T: \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. Y' f4 h% B- B% ^1 r3 D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 U, o6 u# c# K& v. D5 f, v0 @- Cwhat will u do???  y( F4 A+ p, p, v. \3 D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 5 k) I7 P- u$ r1 S7 W

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ u+ e+ u# n- A

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ H1 ^: u! B4 ~& K; B' z5 D9 \

% e8 s8 ^7 w4 v9 S$ j. K議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
( H+ |7 ~7 s9 \) f& m" r5 f( Ehonestly, if there is jesus: S( y- L4 Z* i' \# D. U# {$ x! O) y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; G. I; S9 j# v% l% w( ?- x
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- E% y# W0 l. I' r4 i5 y3 b' w
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  S: q" o' u7 ?+ xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 g( z$ ^5 [; C3 rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 ?" ~3 B! ?& v" X% Qso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......1 M, L: x5 }3 {, B6 k; Y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
$ C3 E1 g' Q2 j- Lbro singgeihot and rest365days
6 S. V0 m' U$ Q4 ]honestly, if there is jesus
( {3 \, C9 `1 @* phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 X% E, ?7 K. e2 `& |" o0 `we can't blow him :cool:

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. T' n" y7 P$ Dunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics- Q4 K& d  k, ~$ V* K
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
" }& Q  V5 X+ L) Y  P7 j自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: