jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 x2 M% P2 h+ u: |+ x. b9 r6 w
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架1 _* D1 v" S* A+ K1 i$ M9 S- V
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
1 z2 S& U- Z  w, [* v  a6 Z0 ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 L) ?! C( b  E: W5 E$ pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. H. f3 O( {+ O& B! X9 a1 f6 Qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % B5 G3 V: b9 J& _& }, E- u
but why jesus need to do this?& a$ \! v9 C. j, ]( m
punsihment for what???$ K" C( q; l( }, m0 {: c6 S
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 b* R* O' I5 T7 R/ P" Z3 T
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; @1 [) R$ ~9 f6 Y  hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / M6 h- w$ G; X
what will u do???/ ^' p; W8 A% D& i8 B  s; @1 ]
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 R  ^4 K7 B% p- s3 i

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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' h& o9 O8 o. h: o但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排% ~9 [% N& m( E  Q/ P6 o

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
0 B( ?/ a; C$ x) lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 L6 r# Z! y5 i
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: k) l! t6 @5 B' R; B% h
why this happen? just simple........punishment" v, y! y  T+ M  P+ x2 }
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; N- Z, p- F' Z
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 |. T# ]. c+ h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& V( S- k7 {; F& j. |$ D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + Y2 v8 i/ `( C
what will u do???6 a' V( n3 U# F( d. h& F2 e
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 z, y, L) ?% X

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1 ?; c  A1 j  z3 i+ I2 a0 {$ isorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" ^6 `$ k( O8 p) v9 x0 c
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ _0 a6 v* d$ \" ~, h
honestly, if there is jesus
9 T/ ]% x; u# w$ }+ J& F- H0 Qhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 |! G8 e  X" t/ owe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
4 x4 d# O) I5 Rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( {* B( b9 }' w2 b9 o0 T3 ]/ [( s  k: S
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 Q. ^$ Y0 Y6 T3 ^" Z+ n0 s3 Z
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# W7 T8 n( q/ @0 @. |
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" r, |9 l; z% @/ ?5 N2 @honestly, if there is jesus3 L& t; w/ O) l7 d" m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
% c% [, `) ]2 o$ D8 d2 s# s- pwe can't blow him :cool:

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9 n9 ]  z6 R* j) k' C3 runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
/ n. r. y2 R2 qotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  @2 H  ?4 v% i; z自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: