jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 `6 j* m* H& d0 R" obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% k7 g/ j% j: v: e% m/ k
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case) W5 j7 I6 n3 \9 W# x" {/ n
why this happen? just simple........punishment
) b9 g& [( \& ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - I+ u$ f: `; P" u2 c  ?, t. e
but why jesus need to do this?4 L5 [: D4 o- T5 g/ J
punsihment for what???4 e1 [& U/ c7 z+ D) M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
! q1 q8 Q/ i/ [$ W0 B7 @9 ^2 Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! @% \8 o  _* _  _" k# Q7 F' ?: wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
; m9 p+ t' v1 Awhat will u do???
8 ]9 P  S. Z: l1 [" bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 P3 g! A( a! e/ j" C0 P+ y& V
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- T+ w1 S1 R7 X) myes, what did u think is what i...

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7 N0 C$ w7 ^' J, J' B& i0 B% j$ Q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* G, @; L  n8 _! |
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
$ l( A; d' w8 J# ~7 i, ~3 pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 h& U6 `. ^; r6 s. }6 l: Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! Z% ]( _: V  l/ |6 y& Y6 W" H* ]why this happen? just simple........punishment
3 k. x5 l8 W! d. D; w3 l# tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 `1 @" j9 E4 h) ~3 X: X' c( G+ g; \
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
+ f" G. x6 P* B4 [  atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* O% g) J! J1 Z9 ^3 p; F' f/ Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 g4 h6 V  v; `
what will u do???/ D" o% r- z) F  Z8 y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % @. L, D& c$ w. f$ G/ p+ R5 Z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' j& [8 V4 x- \1 n+ I: i
honestly, if there is jesus/ F% T/ }; g3 S& Z' b9 F( ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. O( R4 v* l4 s+ n$ _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 I1 F  a5 i) K6 E* ^

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
" m% |* z% g, M, Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( Q4 S& h- q4 u' Gso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......% O7 J+ O, h( E
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; c9 Y0 q  W4 E  Z7 t3 R
bro singgeihot and rest365days  P5 i4 o, _! R) {* r8 B3 x# f
honestly, if there is jesus3 w9 Y! v7 B8 M( R9 z4 {+ ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 g" B. `# J  e7 g8 i
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
% `1 D2 ?* X+ I3 m! o, G5 votherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 k8 [+ A# ]6 @$ o自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: