jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
7 ^# o8 G  ~) J% C+ ~仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 ~, P! ~+ @# g0 Pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 K. M, [9 p/ Q0 S4 u5 ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. M9 y% U2 q# n7 [. h1 J5 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& L2 D0 z' {. j/ ^7 qbut why jesus need to do this?
1 ]/ z: G! t/ _$ W5 R# f, ppunsihment for what???( ]4 t. l% o1 s# E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( c) [; k9 _4 D: O5 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers& z8 h7 r- M0 F: E( `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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, W9 [1 ~( h: L# L( G+ s咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. f+ f! Z, X5 i
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
6 h5 r7 @- @& x0 t5 B4 r1 R- Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 \4 G7 Q( C/ w( S; j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- q1 h3 j. _$ G9 q. pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 m4 J1 D. n$ Z" R; h: nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ s4 }5 i8 O  ^6 I- cbut why jesus need to do this?
& Z7 u+ n& e& T, l3 }/ r% opunsihment for what???( g8 `8 ]. y5 ^) U. e- m8 i, ?5 ]7 e
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! L% p+ ?. T: V1 K0 t
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( G4 d+ R' e3 T' Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" j. }. V# A) O) u; Q+ iwhat will u do???6 A. k" g! e# b3 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % o# z/ X1 Z" v

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/ w0 l9 r$ Q6 l" {, z- E( V; Isorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: x9 @1 h/ o- y7 _" `$ W0 ?

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* l& H1 G! `& a9 m; ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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; j) e7 j! d8 |0 e4 f& W議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days$ E  _+ s( r* @1 M5 m
honestly, if there is jesus4 @; U9 u5 N  G$ y' t6 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 F" o7 r7 |5 o% {4 A6 [1 `we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 n2 F% P3 O" H% m! b3 F
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( C* p4 s1 D4 ?, @9 x8 O, c
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
* B  e$ \$ i7 e) ]now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus) W6 A3 I$ T! x# g
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ {( z. e$ [% ]; q5 ^* e
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& E. a9 G) w* n8 G7 W3 w3 J: D
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 E7 `- [* c, G3 e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( y1 F: |4 j: r/ l$ m; Rhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: