jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) v8 m$ f& h0 Z' O. [2 b9 [
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% y+ z7 M/ L2 N9 i5 f
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 s7 M4 m+ H$ y% C, I6 V* E& C) jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 g0 G# W2 }- q7 Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 C: ~( ?. a3 R( smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) ]/ S1 K/ l2 T; V, t4 t2 ~
but why jesus need to do this?
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# h4 v# }1 A7 L, L* Hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 b& r% n; q- N2 _6 C8 T, K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  s7 q  I* e/ J( K& `
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:: J1 O+ Y! b; m8 H& D/ o

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ l6 @; V& r; G# B
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  @% L2 W3 g" [1 E6 d+ F4 h* ^) m9 r! ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' N: z. C& n' q* H. O8 G* T2 f5 R) R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
* W$ y8 O5 {2 C9 a% {( }$ E  Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 h7 l( l6 ]5 Y6 k4 a. f( T! lbut why jesus need to do this?
( H( z9 S' ^9 }  I6 dpunsihment for what???
& {- x' Z4 a5 G3 cfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- G4 L2 C2 W9 E. q( ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) K0 Y1 W/ L7 wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 D0 e4 U% x7 m# x8 @+ m$ G/ d
what will u do???7 z2 K! u" q( i. @8 E1 o5 o
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - f' Y  D0 e( P# ]! Z5 J2 k* w

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. ?6 o' F' `. N; a& Z% i- w) Z$ Xsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& Q: Q( S; z" B. j/ K
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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& C* |2 d5 [- o7 I! E- c$ \好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; g% V* W0 i0 Y; l& ]
honestly, if there is jesus7 W9 L9 J) E: m- O" b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 T, J) w& D6 o* q
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ D' |1 r% @% m; x4 q
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ Z, i2 F. |" n
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" T% B* i( W- H% H' D
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* S) Q" @: `3 U5 x" V7 ~" {bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 R- A6 y# S' E
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: