jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:8 X8 h. q+ r: `' J+ B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: p6 a' r" K7 a3 ?, J- n& Y  u
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 q& Y( B* L$ x, b3 T) p9 vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# l; Q! ]2 I. G6 Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ z: h+ x7 O: v! g3 qbut why jesus need to do this?- {' v. B0 p& ?3 r/ ^( B
punsihment for what???; l$ c6 y0 T3 X; g: g
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# F0 e# M  w! l
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" n2 ?  _/ y! q! S' _& q. E. m
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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1 {7 H5 R2 K+ m1 P, f( d2 Kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; f7 S3 O. `0 X
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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- c; D9 n3 |6 @) \% i但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 [; Z- J; J. s5 B6 {. X
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ v- C) ^2 N. e; _- U9 Z
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 w9 f' r3 |9 j! h3 [7 g+ i' E
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& E7 m  i% }* W% u0 x/ |/ tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 p$ F# Y% t7 Z% Obut why jesus need to do this?( n5 j  H/ j8 f6 w; \' y' t9 `: h& ^
punsihment for what???( a0 V( o# n: Z2 `# x6 q# r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus& ?3 r+ L* L; \1 a7 j
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; Y0 W6 f1 Q) J0 S' S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  A, ?" K7 }+ Hwhat will u do???
+ b! I4 h: P, R; S% ?- @! ujust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , H. m& I; b' B7 _- a. F! S

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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" B' J4 z4 z1 N- a) `% k2 s好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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* m, b" _$ A0 ]; b# n議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 r7 s9 n4 y, w6 O9 J
honestly, if there is jesus3 t1 D# A8 {3 [8 |: k% w6 [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 ~" v$ y1 K' m* {

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+ P& m- V) K9 f/ Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 M; r$ x4 T4 p6 M/ N! @6 A
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 s' o5 a  `2 c9 b/ ?
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  U0 Z6 o8 q* N- u/ ^( m
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:" C( r4 k% E5 H0 o% n5 V2 _: L( b
bro singgeihot and rest365days6 s1 k0 J% z4 \+ M2 S
honestly, if there is jesus
; n$ ^" @" h$ B4 S1 ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ ~" U$ C- H1 d( n9 B
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ H& _' o) t: u
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:+ a: d: f& T# U* U6 j5 K. Y/ i
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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