jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:3 ~4 W6 |  t4 u/ f2 m* |! j; Y/ {, e
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架" F4 _% F  H( k& b! \
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5 r( }% A, p, gbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 F+ i+ B& B8 L. X+ U8 G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 A: n) F  M) z( Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; M9 v( C; D5 C' q( M7 r& g
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - E3 Z9 P6 ]+ u  m$ i  f% m
but why jesus need to do this?
1 u6 A5 G( I' P% ?. ]) [punsihment for what???
/ Y1 s+ l. H" j, @7 }3 ^  s4 Y. ]) Afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; z6 H- X3 x4 H! c& otry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 C5 p) P0 n4 C( N( qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 }9 z4 M7 t, o! K0 t0 qwhat will u do???
6 I# u" r! D/ C, c2 {2 Q" C* O! Jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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" n* ]# J5 H9 n: Cyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; |( E, `, ?$ H/ x; \
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排* B3 A, l; w2 P7 g' c" V

9 ^# G& _+ ~  |7 A咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
! g; K$ [# _3 X8 |4 u/ G: `$ zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 ]8 l, X' s; j" h9 i9 O6 x
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, h$ ?5 s4 E+ y% T( K" A! ]9 z  ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
; e% n9 U, Z& Q% ?& cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
, J+ G' x" z; m9 w5 i$ tbut why jesus need to do this?5 B( j0 ?2 y  u+ {% n  p
punsihment for what???$ n0 A1 Y5 r$ _, G8 E/ Y+ Y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' z8 N1 V) @. U# x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# K8 |: f' {5 d; T0 a1 Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) P5 z/ s' ?% t  [
what will u do???
4 S4 {& f$ U2 J) u$ }2 gjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' i( L/ e: Z1 e- _. V2 z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % V( ?& u- T% C& Y' C% Q, M! b

7 a3 ]2 P9 i* c% p議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days% h- U$ r% z3 V1 Z1 A3 G
honestly, if there is jesus% l+ d( I" m' Q8 t3 c9 b
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 R8 B4 E+ u: i# q& O1 \we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" \, l! p  y, l3 Y5 H

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9 d& {+ p3 H& Y2 q6 E. H; k& I; w好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 j; x, q" P; D. p* V( Z7 e8 u
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
' l% E& w! c. n5 q4 m- T5 Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......+ [! w* H" d1 d# B
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# b: Y- v# o  w- B& O0 [bro singgeihot and rest365days
: ]0 A5 z. D/ a# @' |/ U/ bhonestly, if there is jesus" E3 d" W/ D8 A1 ~  ?" f4 s8 B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 h* j- |$ \4 `* z% b
we can't blow him :cool:

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) _1 n" _& k. @9 Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; u; f2 [3 F6 I' m- v/ x9 z2 p' N$ Z+ R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
1 V2 ?$ Y2 O% s1 }+ Z% O自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: