jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# ?# w6 t0 |! t$ `) q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& L5 W1 S- j) B# i
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! ?! [5 X" x: T6 n' R1 R# smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 J) {/ r3 W. O2 a9 }but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" @! \6 o1 d) }- }0 u
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; t  Z. E( i! H6 D但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( v% @4 W! c  M! X5 E# i& S
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, P' l3 P0 B9 ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% d7 }0 m. [1 o; A- I) mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment' j9 \0 n. D" [& L( ?8 I+ W
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 T" x- `7 i. {, cbut why jesus need to do this?! N! x2 q6 d* m( }0 u
punsihment for what???
0 _; l! u6 d5 V8 K; w( W4 rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" [$ `0 L: j; t9 u* b# |" f2 ?) Ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ g  x) ~3 N, B# r: obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - s) r# \+ X4 G
what will u do???
  [% g; o* O6 s4 jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ d; n# m- X$ Q" f7 h, v* o

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ J' t, @  u! k& y5 f
honestly, if there is jesus
, u# [; `+ J' h& E1 \he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus# ?- e. b3 ~, @1 I4 W  o/ ?. @4 c
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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5 B# p) A. E& u( @. t& U7 ~. s; D. Qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 X) {2 A/ d- ]" _2 v; x* L4 cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ x/ ^! p% ^+ C3 T) J  o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
: D, W4 W% @4 }8 T5 E/ Z6 Wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 |8 f* [% y! _' h. h) Y
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( y: Z; Z' ?& S7 k: {honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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5 u* f8 o; B9 j: f; z' ^understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) i3 U5 ?% D3 u
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 G# [3 j: F( A6 |* d
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: