jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ q2 t  A, w8 g7 _2 x0 I) p0 v# H
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  a: r/ d1 |8 I% J3 Y" V' T
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ t0 z1 W+ m  z: j% D. U8 [why this happen? just simple........punishment
; X, y! k( r+ R" |) h; Q: M2 jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. L' K* Q* b5 m9 d- [but why jesus need to do this?4 Y3 A- O( t9 u; P) {( ?5 P
punsihment for what???
2 c/ d4 I: g7 V9 e4 r/ J5 E! B- e  kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ I- X+ K# {1 Q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers) |. W! P2 |$ X/ L) Y5 D. ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % W+ U  ~' q. E& W+ S: F
what will u do???2 |' R* U8 r2 g, q  X# j9 i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; ~1 x" T$ ?- L9 X; ~
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6 x2 j2 {1 T3 J4 Q8 H- w$ F咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉( T" N9 U$ \% ^, U6 u4 `6 q6 o

3 q" t- p4 H' a9 d$ v7 C但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 U, Y4 |2 J& C7 s. O2 H* l$ O" t
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 {+ d: y$ h" J) ]1 ]
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 Q2 n- |0 G7 G/ J! {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 |1 `6 B" t, c( k. P7 i1 `3 twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& N( i5 G; w: x1 Y) `many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 D1 i5 A! z& J! ]( G8 d
but why jesus need to do this?4 L7 a: V  M) m; q5 E' T
punsihment for what???
, v; ?. j' \0 K' `. Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% G  \( h8 @8 H. V4 h  V; \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  m% }& O# i8 l, L4 Kbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
+ _) K8 S9 C% P- ?& t# swhat will u do???
/ Q, \# y6 P1 V9 [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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( z7 G; H5 f9 U1 ubro, did u know that there is a...

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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
* [" n/ M$ n4 @* o4 s3 ?, vhonestly, if there is jesus1 r3 A7 L$ n' d
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:$ S+ F8 ^$ \6 `; j/ g& {3 s6 q9 q

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 r# i' U) X/ R" n9 }% z9 Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- U- F! x/ f( Y8 v8 w$ F" J2 @7 Y7 U
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ p9 h, n4 g. d+ ?$ {6 ^
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... M7 b& ?) l  q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' I6 t' p: P" P
bro singgeihot and rest365days; A7 o2 K1 N. }3 G8 q
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 {8 H& C% T) _% z( |; o$ N% U, B; P/ s
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:& @8 F  Z6 W. s# `$ b& n0 \3 a
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: