jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
  y+ b5 V1 G( I* z# |仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架+ x+ {' ^) x+ _6 W! _4 l0 |
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' Y+ W2 |, V. dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
, r# p/ ?, U( a' ]comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! p, `) X+ M3 w5 d, H9 Q. z
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 i8 M+ t* \2 q# j' b! k2 K8 I
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 Z1 S+ h$ G9 L' J- Y3 z1 L
but why jesus need to do this?( P( X; a. _) I" `. n
punsihment for what???% ?. ^# a9 F% x4 [0 j1 L
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' V) Y! i4 M* B7 `& ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. {( k! N% b$ f4 o& c, Ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 N2 a7 t& O; Q3 J/ l
what will u do???0 B0 U" O. }  \. i% H1 E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ h& g* l1 ]- w3 t0 W0 B
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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; I+ o# k/ Z5 G- p3 ?咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, n$ G" d0 U6 @' ]

/ `1 O# {3 f  `4 m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 g) f, I! }- N# L/ a& e8 J  g
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% T( d6 x4 G. `' a) }9 M$ kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% l1 n6 x. w1 U- N9 S5 {
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 p2 @, u, t( f, ~9 a6 \+ swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
  r1 l/ [8 n8 n) D( P% r2 Dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 B6 x, o, ~# G! J" S- Jbut why jesus need to do this?
. W, m% z  ~  P2 V: Npunsihment for what???$ Z1 G  |4 Y. w1 q9 X, A! N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 o* Y, I7 ^7 E* O- itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 y- _. P( S0 L4 x% k4 O7 r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  {1 k' k3 ^" y7 `3 X) kwhat will u do???8 \9 V% d7 q$ f% c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  J6 {. `1 R: `+ B  Ubro, did u know that there is a...

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4 [; i# ~7 r2 g* t+ l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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1 q4 d$ R6 A$ [' A3 J5 \議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 L3 L# U. \" ~" O- W3 Yhonestly, if there is jesus
/ }1 q3 Y- N9 Xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& s/ b2 V( F, y$ t, A+ Kwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% M, |& D6 q3 J4 c

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' k. N7 L8 ^$ P# V+ k8 Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
  O; g: p- [9 G5 ~4 e7 ], ~/ d/ a) qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' b+ S2 [( l8 _( T+ @7 A  X
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... l: x4 ?  D% [4 a6 x
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
( o! M# P, B0 y) F* D; r! m0 B8 X! U6 rbro singgeihot and rest365days
, K" \7 x, m$ R# l/ j0 Ehonestly, if there is jesus4 d- M, Z3 }% {5 s
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! ?9 }, e. V6 \! `4 s
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:# w7 u" i5 W( P" |( B; s$ {) I* C
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: