jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:. ]5 E! J) O* P4 h( p. I
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* g6 ~: T: v: u& O9 y  P0 \3 b* t. g$ E
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# O) i4 ]. ]) l, X  ~1 P  l1 _8 h9 Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ O: B! \: s) _9 m& ~* x& B/ swhy this happen? just simple........punishment
+ s- U# Q# O% q3 Kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* u7 E0 }% F* A: zbut why jesus need to do this?
* J' O5 `2 w! vpunsihment for what???$ C+ E4 x  w2 B: T% |: K, v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 1 m9 f0 S4 `! I( C' a
what will u do???
3 Q' T8 c/ O% p$ v5 m( z5 ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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3 {) |$ X& h# n! g* X咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! d$ c. ^/ L9 D9 s- Q' w; b! H
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 i# I# r7 N/ S( ?/ E/ e  y
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- C/ B7 ?8 f# a- Z# y% Q9 W
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# B/ P) l1 F" m# w5 ^. s: \
why this happen? just simple........punishment
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punsihment for what???5 r# N- o) T& N, i$ G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 o$ M4 z/ r; J' U7 t& ?/ d# _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers8 h3 V" ~3 b, [% }* I$ y. A' G
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  K1 Y* }# ?( g& Xwhat will u do???
" a* g4 u5 {( }3 y" rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; F6 H8 J/ h' V+ F

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 @1 P9 C% N( p  _

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / O' g* l6 P' G- o
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" \0 J, m: B: G! D+ W7 b/ A! `# Z# uhonestly, if there is jesus8 P& m( D2 M+ e& |/ Q, M( ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 R  A' P: O: t! k
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% P  J" m2 i9 A; O$ V

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. K9 V) _3 b  c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  Y. h/ M# K% r. }" P9 Tyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( R, l5 L6 g# H) q1 {just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
& u, ~( {7 \% R' P- Fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- j0 \& }0 S* S) V. P' ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, ^$ u' S; e9 @/ |
bro singgeihot and rest365days1 N6 V# S1 d) a8 Y' I" o+ O
honestly, if there is jesus
* _$ t: y8 i- J0 a% ?& Ihe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 U8 d, b0 u5 p8 `0 p  F# ~  j
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: [) F1 F& y# }9 K" m) `- H! Y# j4 I
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:' e- [0 H8 q& R. |4 P
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: