jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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! N/ q! M  E8 U( M6 i/ O. V: Hbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. q7 r' @( k# m- M/ Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ V: b) [" h1 i+ P6 {# S2 C# }" Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
5 H4 M- u) f8 R/ B2 ]- n: Umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  H/ k) q5 z" @5 T7 n- Dbut why jesus need to do this?
0 _$ }8 J5 W4 P, `6 @( Mpunsihment for what???
2 E& \1 n) W0 S& i# ?* afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ x, s7 N4 Y$ O- L& W" p( ltry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers$ m  y' e2 }1 W' }. c
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 G4 u: m: t0 R5 P  {
what will u do???+ X% q5 @4 v8 N  C, V$ E. m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 S) j1 ~3 Y. P6 w

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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" O1 G' X2 `! s, ?2 S但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 z' M+ F4 g/ s2 [# m- q

5 W8 A) T; n9 u3 J" j咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 |- P7 Y$ j* O$ ?
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" B: A  V; A" ?9 E& H+ h' H9 f# N% D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! ]4 N& y5 r$ ~3 Q- ?5 qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: f9 u7 r- l( d. k; _: c2 ?& S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 \2 y# w0 K+ q2 ubut why jesus need to do this?
, k0 E5 c  d4 g  [/ o& Ypunsihment for what???
6 Q& U$ I6 J, g$ ?- w4 Z- ^8 ^! _# xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% c- c" H3 g' l7 q! g" b! |5 X
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 R9 X+ f& k9 l) r, D
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 V" ]! j; a, V5 P8 ywhat will u do???. x  `/ r4 H6 S6 z# A& i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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. t4 l. O# U0 H: ksorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# P% Z8 P# ?- `! a8 [: s" n

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 u* L" a  J( H' V8 W0 h( X

2 t" L! O# y! S; P" a) p: n4 }8 d/ t, K( h議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days/ J. c( e! I! H0 V: D! f
honestly, if there is jesus
3 J+ K0 o3 J3 u$ H8 H: m- Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus; y4 N4 _. R* r; W) K
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
6 {- D: }3 s* ^, O2 X# ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 d$ z  T3 S8 t& E1 q7 c) e7 E  Z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......" U$ u8 {6 N* @8 S0 G6 M7 P! l4 g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:2 f3 e* H; z7 n+ e
bro singgeihot and rest365days0 v5 P' R! A& q; G
honestly, if there is jesus
( T& |3 p# n0 Y* j7 A' `he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& N. @# M. A" X# e5 S
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  z6 v1 s, ~( c' m& y0 k自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: