jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) B; W! ?5 I5 @! r0 J' U" a) s
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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: W* p* b! U! x7 K& Z, i7 rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
9 {8 |5 L0 m' [, Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" G6 }$ X9 L1 l" k! c# J
why this happen? just simple........punishment! [+ ?) R% [. D  N5 J$ Y, Y* z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! P+ z* N; L0 `$ z! b
but why jesus need to do this?
8 ?) b, Q) R( `: J  ?punsihment for what???! E( e1 h: J7 j# \; n0 k1 {7 w. w
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  c! H  g' x2 n# `) g6 s4 }% c
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, g! @3 ^6 n! p6 [4 V( z, l5 V9 \
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : u5 f6 @. z: o8 n3 n! c6 z
what will u do???' `: r1 U" H! q4 h. n; u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% E; D1 u( A& ?6 |1 Y# w

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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, d6 t# D, s$ r- o咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 [# [# |6 U0 e
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排! F& `5 {7 ^1 g' t6 `  j
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:! S: g$ x; i3 K) O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% ^+ ^& Y% B0 S  A' Kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case% `& q1 ^* e8 _) o: O" `6 a
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ n5 @! F8 H5 a! q! Jmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 f7 v% t8 a* X) [2 L
but why jesus need to do this?, o( }  Q8 D' t, g: T1 _
punsihment for what???
7 ?7 }/ N  d" Ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 @% W1 M8 m5 O2 n) etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
: t2 K" t5 P  a+ B8 cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 H" ?+ S" B# C3 H& C7 l
what will u do???
1 H8 x: N, g0 O- tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 z8 T2 ]9 `! }- X

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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" U* w5 v* O6 e- Ebro, did u know that there is a...

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8 y0 J  p9 ?( `) y7 Y4 `+ }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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  ^5 p1 j# h6 U% n" b議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
( N- F9 M1 c9 E" A# w7 x4 Ghonestly, if there is jesus
" r# F" k9 l& S+ A3 yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus/ u5 w9 ~- Q$ N0 \7 h$ Z+ u* \. U
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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. v& n/ u8 y7 \& x  P3 pyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life( U' n* S% y" B5 M' P% C
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
( ~" ?8 }7 O( B5 _9 V7 Y: f9 `2 Dso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 j6 s0 z6 f" H% f$ q& Dnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, f' |, ?9 u1 x
bro singgeihot and rest365days
" [3 @" y; p6 D. Whonestly, if there is jesus& z& O4 C  [& C' A3 F
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus4 P4 t2 K+ u6 P$ o2 \" o
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 ]6 f$ L3 v! z1 _otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
  X3 U( D# y$ ~' u* ~自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# i  j1 c# t: S/ @: ^haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: