jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
9 H$ R4 }- V; x4 x7 @) l/ U1 ^9 P仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架9 s) Y1 ]; k4 y+ h& F; w3 [
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?/ a, S* Q7 F9 L" d) @& h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 b* u9 M1 E* p0 B% l! x" f2 Owhy this happen? just simple........punishment0 m  v9 U6 a; ^% X) A3 q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
* G/ c; R8 c0 Zbut why jesus need to do this?
! N' ?4 Y4 H; t& A1 [3 upunsihment for what???
3 C: P% n2 O, @- K& _for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 J9 d% Y! e: Z" Q. V/ s+ v) Atry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% @! s: y( ~. ^) `* cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 M8 j; q: b3 l+ D
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) N& f$ w( \4 S! q' [

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% C# G7 K* j3 Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( m. c6 L3 d4 }. Q' q  A3 Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 Z& L, T" F( c+ Y0 H
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( A9 F( j" L6 x5 c" l& t8 hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% ?  a2 O5 R, c  p% N: g$ X9 X* `7 Bbut why jesus need to do this?0 E0 h. i  p( T5 r! O
punsihment for what???
- q* O! N+ ]! p% M" p3 _for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" S% S* P6 s4 O2 T: a4 _2 P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 H/ O( B8 h+ k* c6 V3 [4 h, c* O
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' \9 r: B6 c6 {4 s$ A& Swhat will u do???
0 G+ ^' p! s" t2 P) jjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 A. i" |; S/ W0 e  m+ l

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0 N$ W! F* a3 N議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days) }, h) ~. v, C8 }
honestly, if there is jesus8 V8 m* A9 ^! S9 ]& R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:" Q9 D2 E: i) a8 U
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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  S0 c7 i1 U2 Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life- q1 ~9 X1 @0 `' P
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
: c! c+ @! T; L* O7 bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
3 L# D; R/ Q1 _1 h' ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* h6 v: K& N: {" k- }- [6 kbro singgeihot and rest365days! ?# }. x4 h, U/ y- u( T- q% q
honestly, if there is jesus
. \* y* q# z' S& Bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( w& _) S) X/ c8 |! W! lwe can't blow him :cool:

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( M( U! q. k; O) d% l: C2 yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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% ^- C/ }0 f3 A; s7 A8 n' p( ?haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: