jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:2 Q( j( q5 c7 s- V  G; _$ I! C: P
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 H/ Y5 G) F0 g! o; Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: f# k: Y- ^3 Y, n( H# C" l
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  T. w) x0 L/ u4 u, [1 W" ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 _. }5 b# U+ Q5 e/ U+ q4 B: U8 }but why jesus need to do this?
& `9 j  T+ B/ }# N9 x$ @punsihment for what???
# q, t- U% B3 }- L7 j" L# \for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; g* r6 U: r! f5 \! }' R4 v6 p$ f% V
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 {4 g1 L6 W( ^! o( F& A! f% n1 zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
. @+ W: W3 d1 `( F1 Y9 B9 w, s' @what will u do???+ D  J* F3 j) G, D, U
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 J( Z, e6 r4 B" S9 S

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; p# A9 x" ~- H& \7 k2 g咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! I# z) T: b, Y

) `1 Y& e% l0 d4 [7 ]& K但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 Z; a0 b7 u. Q& k
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, h4 c* p3 e: n- O1 A
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ ?; l7 Y4 x; ]7 A) z' {$ X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 C# w- q' R% Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, t* a+ Q& ~: K" b- e! j6 W5 B  t
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 j( u- G/ Y3 Z" O6 j! C
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- [, O  K" D- g3 h+ A- C
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 Y! i, O4 X/ I$ a2 @8 mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 w% }0 L, a& B
what will u do???% Z8 @' d/ T. m( B  l1 m2 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) t* D7 |8 X# D/ J6 G4 o4 G

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, m# ?- f# E& b4 u& e7 m1 D0 Fsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% L4 H! B* Y( a! @$ e' `  d
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7 @* {6 U# v2 Z6 B& e* [bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / U- b4 d- a. ?8 s2 w& f
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days+ v! `- \$ @+ k" I' M% F
honestly, if there is jesus
' v9 n8 X6 [0 i1 T3 Phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ o; K: D7 S8 y' t" w- uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 B* ]& q7 b) b" q" t) Z
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) H1 k6 h0 j' D7 g" w1 l/ k: L0 gyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life3 e5 H5 p3 N7 a
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 ~3 L& M: F( m. o* @' }
bro singgeihot and rest365days( d+ ~9 h5 E7 K& o
honestly, if there is jesus% C% Q2 k# n2 s. b  M$ _
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  F- K7 ]8 b4 g2 J
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
5 @  ]5 X1 G* e: ~0 I7 {otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 \- u' L* d" J) q
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 P6 l/ ?2 l( L8 `  ^* _3 O( Hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: