jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) C7 g9 t. p; Q8 l7 D
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 z; K0 z3 M& R: `" F- X* mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# Y0 E: }7 \- Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% f$ q8 B% o9 g, ~6 kbut why jesus need to do this?0 o; v# M. K1 g' s8 i5 Z6 j1 k
punsihment for what???4 q4 \, H! E5 [
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 \1 Z/ d4 r% S: htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
6 n( U1 `7 G( F% k/ |, O' b7 y  Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
5 N1 Y" ^7 X" N$ L8 L1 N, }) A: lwhat will u do???/ D; B% q9 _2 s+ R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& {% _& C: R" z
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# Z  q; j- p) U咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" k, h2 I% M! \- r% y( b8 r! U
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 g3 I: I4 r5 `( w
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 [0 T# C! c5 |% y8 w# Twhy this happen? just simple........punishment5 k) j% V0 U) N8 [8 h4 z* l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + V. S; r# Z1 M1 b- B$ g
but why jesus need to do this?
1 l$ y! I, X/ ?8 E/ r+ rpunsihment for what???! g% ^0 n2 t+ q2 {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus1 @" m2 g: i2 A+ a7 L
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# l3 w4 Y8 M+ _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 J9 S# G' `9 @4 C8 K9 S4 Bwhat will u do???0 K2 r1 W; \- z6 ^8 Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' a& m: K1 v3 _

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; H; k4 ^& U2 S; y9 b. [, v) Y; Bsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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2 d; {0 S  e7 n8 ]9 h) Nbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 7 r' r5 R+ m4 \# ^7 L
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days4 S/ \, j5 B( n4 r
honestly, if there is jesus0 ^' }. {$ W- \" n
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( Y' X2 ~) m" l! }( S, r
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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! U4 K. d1 H3 v3 x' h) lyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
* H" x" U& L' O2 W) {* Qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it, X$ ?" y) W+ F; r4 \) K% T( a* ?
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......  a1 ?" e7 m8 B  w" `7 V% d
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 o3 X4 M. K9 r/ U. W, y3 }
bro singgeihot and rest365days) I4 J3 D& z0 x5 E3 S; F
honestly, if there is jesus) m$ E4 B6 {2 P! f; J
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 f% H9 g6 J% P8 M+ L5 f# xwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics" h9 A, H8 V' J3 M2 |# v
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: