jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, ?, ~- P5 r7 x  a% G; k- u
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架& ]( H: N. j7 q5 F$ T* u
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?  G$ O, w2 w8 o2 G
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
  r6 u- W% [9 V* n3 L; V! W& u( Vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
9 v  f, _) C: x8 V4 emany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 \7 Z( D, i: p4 X) q+ u" @but why jesus need to do this?
8 Z3 z5 d5 B, F3 j" hpunsihment for what???- d0 b- R9 W2 |' X; r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus" a2 G$ G8 Y! P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉! {7 ]; v7 j, ^) L

2 p* X' n( V. z& }( ~) y  \, s9 _但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: [7 Q, \% v# {
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& f) Y" h( z% I7 j1 Y4 Y0 U" O  `bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" W; J' B; H% \6 P& _( V) N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
) z# H4 L* d$ _- S# _why this happen? just simple........punishment
* N2 G( e# c0 E: q$ o: wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; [8 c+ O* i8 E1 hbut why jesus need to do this?% |. O+ H0 S+ H5 Q  U- I
punsihment for what???
+ L4 \5 h  y8 i9 ]# H- |for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 ^" m; M% d8 [try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 h1 {4 h7 R7 e% q9 M- Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  a3 B1 y! h4 t2 x9 bwhat will u do???/ E0 t0 E; e; U& f* Q" _  t
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " P% T6 z) Y4 _  P- j$ J* D. E2 p

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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$ r; q9 ^! i4 R: {! Ubro, did u know that there is a...

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+ {& }& @7 Q8 S( ]) d% i* q4 X; c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 Q' J7 S- y2 D3 d" U* s2 I; l
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ M1 k4 t: v- P+ c( e& Z# Rhonestly, if there is jesus4 ~! r# J7 d. t) n, }4 E3 B: ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
: r. a6 A0 B0 |5 O8 q+ Vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- ^7 U$ M  |: I& S! ]; P

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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+ w7 P+ `' R1 w/ Q" V. [+ X$ vyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
  m' E5 }" Z$ O  c5 Cjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 V6 A9 o& h2 B3 Y" v$ N- L; Vso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
2 ?* E) p9 ^. j) }now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:, f! r8 v) V0 H: J
bro singgeihot and rest365days. S" S0 f: C- X6 I. r, _
honestly, if there is jesus
$ _6 Z5 b! P: xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! h. |# n5 C+ ^2 Kwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
; z) ~; g$ S5 A$ b7 g自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: