jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:9 h0 n6 y, z+ I6 F
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架+ q% d7 s3 t' k- |% l
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9 G! r  g6 b  M1 e* _# Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) L6 M/ Q: j2 O1 Zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, W0 B" @/ @4 ~4 b% a
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ e. A; N$ n" Y+ a1 cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 l, ]0 h+ }5 h* D% `# ~but why jesus need to do this?
( N$ k! g& y  |# K9 O7 Fpunsihment for what???
( V) E/ U* Z% {, `6 Rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% \" V8 U3 t: Q% F; h) P8 e8 ^
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 m8 [2 j  \% V0 Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 p) J6 C1 w- u7 x4 \) l
what will u do???: l, I* R$ S& g9 S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:5 h6 ]) o  L, Z1 H: m5 J

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. _+ s( D) a2 l$ s  H: _yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉6 @- J( w5 V. ~' O
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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1 V+ ?5 X% Y9 P' m# e' Q/ T咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 [  F7 ~* S' T% l; |bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 D$ c2 \. k6 ?' j- N' b0 a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 x" o7 e( `+ A' dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! G( ?$ V3 V, j* }* W" I. F
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) `; }3 n6 |& ]$ Z* d
but why jesus need to do this?
$ D; N9 N1 E7 B- M, p! \punsihment for what???$ |# T* I- I0 k% v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ G8 T) P% H( Y( c% _- _0 K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  t6 E! Q7 P" qbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . b1 b5 p; ~& T) }0 `7 t3 d2 k6 ]
what will u do???7 e! f4 g" w) \9 e+ R5 r
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. G5 M, S7 b# k

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/ M8 w! N! V' P5 q& ?+ P$ _" u& sbro, did u know that there is a...

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. @+ U8 @* i- F( n! F; V( b5 Y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 l" D# D* f1 q" _議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( F/ U) V& G5 }8 T! O# I. f
honestly, if there is jesus
, y' W1 `0 |' {, b% d7 zhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 X; i; j1 D$ a: W) rwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# l7 y$ M2 d" P% j0 X  T+ y& I
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) n) m& d! H8 {5 T- M' R
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ f/ X7 b/ }$ ]: F+ f% w
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: `3 q; U0 w& P  I9 N" L5 z
bro singgeihot and rest365days. h! S2 Z7 y! i4 E0 S
honestly, if there is jesus
- v" r; z4 ?( J5 c7 |" |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, M- h1 D( ^0 a1 h( o  r
we can't blow him :cool:

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' \* `3 \6 s: @: a& munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% n& u: A; L, w- @& G! j* k
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
; u5 ~' Z( t( g: l% e$ ]5 o自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: