jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( a  @7 W0 e& I' M1 X8 w& Tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case7 l' L4 u' l1 M" K. h( G
why this happen? just simple........punishment: n3 H- ~' S" e1 L$ G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * B+ i2 O9 d0 _, N) [) u
but why jesus need to do this?
' u& A0 r$ p9 s$ e0 J/ Xpunsihment for what???& L7 k3 Z: ]" o" u# B* n3 j0 l$ i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# x% Z% v0 [7 S- ]try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 Q7 q/ T) |' f5 i# j) ]
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! a+ v. u0 |6 w. l
what will u do???
* C+ {% Y: A9 k. Kjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ n2 F8 |8 @2 N  ]) J+ U/ o
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% T; B4 i  Z. w, V- w

# t* X; V" j% g但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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9 e, N, V% k: n' S& K咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- ?& y( ?/ o- x7 @3 G, ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" A& P+ v9 Z( f( b' `7 {. g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 j' [8 n  R" {3 S# ]% bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 Z* B6 n! M% r7 z( l1 f! z% b
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . ]- X& U! D" b: ]) H$ W- S
but why jesus need to do this?
, b- A8 ~# N* @$ d/ z5 jpunsihment for what???3 P1 D' b# n9 A" s0 t1 K
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' V% y/ O3 R0 |+ K; h9 J( F2 e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers* N- z+ s  {# k2 f+ F& l+ L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
- t; A7 o6 d8 o0 Q! Zwhat will u do???
2 r' r# D; l1 t# @9 {" ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 1 E; n8 C3 ?) ?) {1 R6 l  S

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$ T6 p) x  d2 E1 n) F8 ?& Q. D  l( ?sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:5 f/ g( c4 I! q) C+ X$ }2 T

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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& u3 N8 m2 j. H$ }5 n$ E好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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, o* y( y6 \% I9 L8 Y' t9 D議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 e1 Y* w4 y9 e1 h) \- L0 Whonestly, if there is jesus
+ P# I# Z" y  Z/ b- E7 _he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  e  F% p) l8 n4 j' r& C
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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. f1 Z% f- }2 L4 F' j" y# |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 Y1 f$ Q, H1 h1 n
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
# C( }: P. j* g4 S7 Xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; G4 ]6 m% k% V& Snow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ N$ t, x( I: ]# f' k4 }bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 U/ ^+ I' K2 j7 D( N) v" D3 n
we can't blow him :cool:

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3 t* ?$ {9 @0 R; Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
: x# V% l' c* e+ K, Ootherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
4 x# ]  x9 \' _自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: