jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ Q) g+ v* D! h3 u  L2 {5 T: \: ]: V
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?( w" M' l8 O) [. ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
! _) `% I+ ]* ^4 T5 f& Uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 M9 c0 q) a, G1 d' p3 L+ Ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 [9 b" S* q* d7 K8 ~  Tbut why jesus need to do this?: {- i7 I+ F: u3 l8 K" \, r
punsihment for what???$ k* p9 J+ h! h# ~, ]/ U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 X. P1 W* `- w3 y  ~# d. b: K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
% ^) Q* T' O7 D9 s6 C0 l  Nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u % M# i# E/ r' {5 m7 Z, O! V7 Q5 f9 h
what will u do???2 W" g; X: I6 k! J) R" \4 U
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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5 t$ b) o; ^0 Y' V2 x9 }yes, what did u think is what i...

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4 M+ v4 Z; D; T6 ]2 \; |" m咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  }7 ^- W; x8 {, M& w但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:* U2 F+ g$ i" n  U3 i- _
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, {& K0 P; b" v5 j: L6 D5 ^
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 R, J7 o1 B- \: Q; L" \* {why this happen? just simple........punishment
0 ^& t! N2 p8 w3 _. u& z0 xmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; T* r* Q8 d% X. C: P  ?
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! ]* ^3 U! H+ n' n
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
; x" Z  C% Z" [5 Zbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u & Y) [0 o0 ]! m! Q
what will u do???
& o* a+ x+ w" z- O! @) ^just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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- X7 N( j4 q: n' p  u- E. f3 Ssorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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- x6 N3 |0 N, U% p. _; O好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / Y2 P/ |- J/ _3 X5 K" K. j7 Z

$ }4 J1 v/ M, U議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
: s- {8 O0 p1 }0 }/ u7 G9 \honestly, if there is jesus
6 M1 p: {  H- uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 K2 n! M7 I1 R, k9 Twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life' g' }  v0 x2 ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it# R+ h7 F" h, c9 f! P9 ]- U- t
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, I: V- V, D1 J" N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ ~( N* n4 [, X  i' `8 [. e" Q8 Dbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 @7 p" d3 ?9 K, B2 `honestly, if there is jesus
4 g" w0 b. S" ?5 S7 ahe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 r# E" C  V* X% _7 v. Mwe can't blow him :cool:

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" N( T" A( F( }2 W+ I( g8 [understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
8 I4 n# z" ?  n* ]7 k) Kotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) A7 T. J8 _2 }" H1 H, T
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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: V! D+ o5 [4 Whaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: