jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ W7 y% b8 [" x9 m6 @
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架: d; R: A  B% g  {+ a2 A. _
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2 |) O! I, ^: O: Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- a9 c8 _  k1 S5 U
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case2 t/ P. t5 M/ G9 u& [7 ]' |
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( i. A; H' s0 ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 D" h# n& c. Y4 Q3 G) ]! L
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( Z; g: v/ b% e8 t% \+ bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * M' \- {, C$ }7 _7 h5 E0 Y+ \  K  {! ^" |
what will u do???1 d4 a$ V7 G9 \( L; O( o7 a( |$ P5 t* S
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 Y; W, I2 y6 j- J" K/ I7 Y& r

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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. i3 y- u' ~6 W* O2 T9 `3 P/ ]: S但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 x7 B( K$ E9 z' c* A

5 i! J; ]! x, \9 A1 S咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( Y) n3 }4 z/ R: J6 x! j
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 X, L  \( K4 i2 @7 z1 acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, D" g' E7 z1 K9 I: N! K# Vwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" ]9 m. x# Z" |  x# umany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 a" w0 g! C* X2 h/ r/ d
but why jesus need to do this?0 f3 x& n$ G5 j+ K
punsihment for what???) _. ~7 Q7 T5 D$ j
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' k1 @6 y8 d8 \4 h% g, ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 \4 k/ D( b" @" G8 j* C; Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 k# ?. m" ?, A) C4 B, c$ P, f$ Cwhat will u do???
4 u" q- ^) i- Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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7 V3 G+ U! `+ `5 m% e( A/ Jbro, did u know that there is a...

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( S5 U1 }3 l* C好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . ~: N" m% s5 D4 h

+ x. H' u5 ?0 ^! u議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" \3 J7 W, o% N+ @$ e1 h, \: r
honestly, if there is jesus7 ~5 ~2 G: \7 J( ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 P& N; f! H3 n/ U7 P" ?
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 T. C- O, P9 |% a2 h1 vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
6 H5 [7 a7 o5 m* q2 [8 Nso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......7 n0 Y( ]& G; n  g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
  f: W5 e( t' h% gbro singgeihot and rest365days, v3 G6 w5 o9 C1 u% N7 Q
honestly, if there is jesus) k1 g' T) G6 O; y" f! i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 z* \+ V% `7 \- {7 Q; K. zwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
) m3 c. @+ {2 q6 j, rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  \) N2 y, l$ z2 v
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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) {* D' Y& x+ m9 {% q9 T9 b; Q1 ]% jhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: