jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:3 n- o% f+ {+ `: Y% N' s
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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& v4 o) a! j  y! H' v: wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ P6 R1 J0 i# Lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 H) r& [! b+ r2 u. Kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, N- K' {1 ?4 g) l% `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) y" w- i9 w5 v$ J' L7 G
but why jesus need to do this?" z3 W4 a# Z5 L2 _6 a9 J
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; r* s3 k" d+ l* R
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% ^2 k0 {; f0 @7 n
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排7 H6 s; A; G5 x
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 m6 b" }" D$ Q( q2 @2 r0 a; P! K0 X
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* J2 u% e* g- R3 r, A$ L8 e+ B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# O4 |. c# r0 mwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
/ E* M! `, F& O: u, Ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; r5 L2 ]" T) f0 H, N% {3 f  n
but why jesus need to do this?1 c6 r7 _1 j1 u2 p4 c
punsihment for what???8 c- S- k3 h3 a4 y
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 i& e* J) r, x% i9 y5 O6 l9 b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers" _/ o1 {7 `& O( J  }% B
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + T/ q$ Y/ V; h- S
what will u do???
# D1 t3 y$ r; z; h) Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 T. S+ V% [7 n1 e/ v- p

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 `! X2 e* b+ _  I4 jhonestly, if there is jesus
: P1 \- N0 A# ]) m- I8 i' S9 k  C5 whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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! h* I% t1 Z& w0 x5 wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
& o6 ]5 F1 x, ?/ H2 _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it! m# _. Z% u4 v0 K
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
, u8 o8 {3 Y+ U1 C- a. pnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:* l9 S. F6 E/ ?& Y+ r) ?
bro singgeihot and rest365days2 k" X; j! P8 V" c* f! m6 V9 R2 r) Z
honestly, if there is jesus
9 m; J# V+ X2 ~% |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' i/ P3 E1 L; i8 ~9 z, J- A
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, e1 I0 D: h/ @0 ~. R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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5 G, Y1 r( \1 q5 r' M0 d" T4 ~haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: