jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
/ |+ N1 ^& n* ^. v! Y8 x6 G  o, D仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架/ K, D+ t. Q+ f( O" ~+ ?
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' r* \& L  I4 D  V, D, fbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% d3 \" e% i. J' I. I2 Y2 hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 \2 C7 S5 T+ N9 |; Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment& `! y+ r$ d) M9 C: L) k
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 G8 R9 k( Q% _( {
but why jesus need to do this?: ~  y  U! O; S( f% m- Y- E
punsihment for what???& w% W7 O- M2 w9 R
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
- R+ Q" d- K0 E) s$ _2 ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 [4 ?& Y& m; bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ J2 j1 W; }. A8 c+ j8 J5 s8 Vwhat will u do???7 l* O) K9 N' r( ~4 S5 B
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; j2 ?6 l2 b+ Q/ Q: C- A+ y
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( p2 X( w9 J. M$ d' a咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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7 I! L- s% ^/ F$ j但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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; t! I6 M) ~1 Y4 ?2 e咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. P! D$ R. \+ f1 x
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
8 r+ P0 {( n. t4 y/ r; Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 H# g7 Z; o3 s8 r' p- X
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& i! o2 J8 H3 ]+ a2 M8 Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 R7 ^# c" |5 z6 Z
but why jesus need to do this?
) L, ]9 _+ b, q8 f: W# cpunsihment for what???# u( M- C( f( ^9 m
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus  L" E: p- J& B7 o! f+ g5 d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ H. {3 `; X( X+ f: Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 {, R* W7 V) @, _
what will u do???' s3 n3 `5 j  ]6 e' S; Z
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , O4 ^6 p* X$ T# d1 J: J) X( h/ ?% O

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ Z8 Z% e3 ~# u5 _6 F

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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# V8 k; F% m2 g* E好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' p3 g& F/ J# ^1 z4 z' Y

  V- S( L) c' j6 S0 y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days' N# v: }5 [3 D& Q6 o, D
honestly, if there is jesus
  M& ^7 `$ T9 Mhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 ?+ l8 f4 t& l- ^* N
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:( I& _& @4 n1 y$ J7 |" Z4 x! t
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" |2 G' V& }8 n+ Y. Byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, `% F  F- Q! d# Y6 L' K4 Ejust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it8 ]: M  e" E  m# J; V6 B& T
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 J8 B' |! C$ m* @! jnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 ]0 a& M0 c) i$ q- R
bro singgeihot and rest365days
( E) ]1 R3 K  ^7 Y# V0 Dhonestly, if there is jesus
! ?; ^# m; Q7 y& x5 hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 r4 z& u: [% }8 O- n
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  \/ T& E0 y9 y7 M% j+ x4 fotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:6 C6 P+ @3 r# z! B, w8 n8 D
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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' F7 n: q: @' K, J/ y$ o) Hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: