jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* Z( ^5 ~0 a0 {! n! H9 y/ B
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架- p3 `: I& x' E' @2 A
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% V, \) N$ d0 v4 O# x
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case' M1 ^* N0 k/ X! F/ u: f/ G" R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
  P9 v7 v6 `1 c! A' I* E* cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 D9 B3 j. d' g4 ~: Zbut why jesus need to do this?" i# h( Q  `/ k4 O" b" @6 d
punsihment for what???& w1 f$ T) [  u8 T) _' o4 M
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
3 q5 T9 [. @6 p8 R) w7 jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, H8 R4 g: W+ M) v: R3 A1 z7 U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 2 k1 U9 j' @1 `1 Y) A
what will u do???( R0 v3 ]- V) b5 u3 y! W7 p+ f, ]8 f
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:) B- w- r0 N/ T( O1 ]  F9 O
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" o6 ~3 r7 G+ [咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ g# M6 d2 k3 Y

- w! w+ v* P2 X8 d但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 U8 M- O3 L! t2 _/ `$ s% v9 K
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& u, Z# I* c3 M* w; Kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, j; K3 b5 @* i1 s+ p7 h
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! O( S8 b' u( R  ^( V& tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
/ f& e) X3 [; X7 Xbut why jesus need to do this?
' [7 i9 A& L8 O; c, h" P5 hpunsihment for what???  ^3 r- p5 p7 p% Q
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, Y2 [5 }  C3 f* C# C# G
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& E% e6 D) [0 A9 V7 v$ m# a  Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 _; J' \! c% B/ T6 |  h' W
what will u do???
$ H, q% D, F7 M7 o7 ?6 Ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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1 g. e3 B% w1 Q0 c$ rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:$ \9 f$ x+ E. u5 U: V. _/ w( f4 H
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; S1 l' _6 R& a& }
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
. Y+ f; m  H5 t4 S" }+ U9 g, b7 ehonestly, if there is jesus
$ S& ^% S/ S$ A* M: ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  r6 l$ o8 \8 z  _we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:3 k/ ^3 O' G2 U7 z$ h7 ?3 B
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( f& b" G. j! N, Q5 S5 W" k6 Rjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
5 z) F, j' X5 @so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( ^1 q  B) ?0 P9 d8 a% W- Z9 p1 N* Y
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:7 i! F  b% ~% |) K" y" o
bro singgeihot and rest365days8 j+ ?& f- R6 m2 E  M- {0 C
honestly, if there is jesus; p3 r& o4 U9 Z# P0 [0 T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
1 O+ j  t0 @& @* ]7 j! U7 O; ]& a5 zwe can't blow him :cool:

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6 J+ Y. T  ]" n$ r! {9 \understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics. e1 s% z" O/ o# U6 G
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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6 \& ?) \1 P  @& ~3 t) Q& }3 Xhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: