jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ q3 X) ?/ Q7 k8 g3 y$ n8 g
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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6 G4 [0 x9 O; i) A6 O* b" z! pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?9 |! ?! J) b( S& X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: ^) J% z& r! N! ~: J* M) |
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% Z+ d$ P6 D) U& S5 dmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( U9 W& N$ u! l7 _
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ T- b" T, H7 i2 A% g% q9 ~try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers: U% ^# _, S7 T3 \. O; h
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / I4 O( F7 }9 G, k7 a
what will u do???
/ I& e0 s; {( x' r0 X0 Rjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:! n0 `$ V5 I8 B1 k
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6 ]3 I: c0 g7 K, ]9 Myes, what did u think is what i...

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( q- r" S, B* [( v1 M0 q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; w& J' w9 u8 g8 S6 R$ i$ M4 r但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 c6 @/ b- A: k

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( ~2 p: ]$ \4 r; E2 j) C
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, S1 |5 {% B: r) a2 l; Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
- h& y9 K8 V9 R. twhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# Q& e" r6 N4 v8 \many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ h# c8 A* n% L. b3 }6 `
but why jesus need to do this?( ]3 R: e' I5 \6 B- ^$ Z. n- M! e2 P
punsihment for what???
1 V9 f& |$ i; y; Q, lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 D; y3 B4 I3 O& y6 V; b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
  J5 X  d/ C; obut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ x$ s( t, l6 w% e3 q7 R7 |what will u do???8 |) N$ O" k0 O+ k6 i; u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ( W# j' [7 x2 A2 \7 M) @0 i! l5 A% Z

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) P) U" |: E/ C5 c' Ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) T% ^7 k1 F4 f/ p1 y

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' w  z3 ~/ a9 s! ^4 Bbro, did u know that there is a...

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. z6 ~) t$ b5 S- i2 A8 G好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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8 l7 m% W& @6 G) L# G" V議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  |7 e4 B  J2 p
honestly, if there is jesus
, K+ Z3 I! t4 E% q4 E* xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" v; e( I6 {* F' W/ |0 Uwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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8 [+ L9 @# n  ^2 }yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. O* a/ E; H& `' d5 F3 ~7 @
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it) P# _( U( J* |( f) n2 t/ k
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
% i9 H  c: }$ o8 R: r6 nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 L" G, \9 C) ~$ d6 V0 O. `
bro singgeihot and rest365days0 @2 f8 c0 h; g/ |* X
honestly, if there is jesus
: V" D& F" \$ s$ M% U. V  hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 u: @& T$ x5 X& A( Ywe can't blow him :cool:

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( a, {. X. E- z' `( Xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics& a5 s9 h- q, ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  T* D: o' ]( Q# `0 R! C2 y; R* \* k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: