jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
$ F' m& p- {* [( Y仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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- n. q" n. X/ _bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; V0 N2 \0 ~  q1 i0 \
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& J6 x/ F3 I3 l; q6 }8 h  K
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( W8 z5 A1 _0 \! g0 a# L0 l- Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& w) ~+ ?2 S' V( _2 m& h% Cbut why jesus need to do this?
! Y( M- g! R6 N3 F: C* d. N4 y; vpunsihment for what???$ u7 N! a( y' O) {" u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 W, h9 J" b6 ?- W/ Ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# l1 Q( y/ }5 M/ q7 |, q! ?1 {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:% B  C7 U( p5 I

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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  O# S8 y" V+ r: Y$ ~* M4 ]9 G咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉. k0 q% H+ P& W+ `% x' i9 p5 X

2 Z/ ~+ J# m$ i但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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6 l" X9 P" J+ z. M. m4 O咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:9 k5 Z1 F, _& r& n$ t
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?1 u9 ^" ~, y; l5 A" H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ Q; m0 G/ I" b! X: A+ a
why this happen? just simple........punishment: n0 a9 t$ g6 k( s
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 e5 P+ a; }" o6 J1 t
but why jesus need to do this?( _  F  H! }; R& q3 m+ i0 L" I
punsihment for what???! [1 e! n/ d  \% I- |; u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
8 s# s0 J1 f" N' l9 _2 T0 ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ T; @! z& \3 e" hbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 }; L" k  q6 c. b# f1 Fwhat will u do???  k4 P  C6 K6 B2 u
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 7 @& E% P" z- F$ G' R$ g: c

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2 _* d6 d( L7 |* }9 X3 lsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  t: N1 O& F, [" ~

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" ~6 ]  w$ L: c2 [# [+ |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 2 o8 B) H2 e2 d% k; y
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
" n/ ^% h& t$ d" xhonestly, if there is jesus
( H4 [9 `1 e/ Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 `2 x1 A% L# e. lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:4 Y/ R; z, D* l3 }

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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) I' P. h& w0 F+ g) P8 y! u7 v/ v! {yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life) E' \5 x/ b  D
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
* ]  c6 a* v: F( s2 Lbro singgeihot and rest365days
2 a! W7 x0 M( rhonestly, if there is jesus& s: O0 O8 Z) Q+ ]; h) g# \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 G1 k* k; ^/ V5 ^) T8 A6 rwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics: X+ \$ G4 I3 g! u* d% I' E' P
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  q+ i: V. \* x4 I
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: