jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
! X* H; H4 y/ v  y$ y仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! k; V3 t# b8 c; H3 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 h5 X2 L% {" A8 Y' Y# f
why this happen? just simple........punishment5 W$ G5 U: w5 E% f
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: n) ]* \$ i2 W( e2 b; u: xbut why jesus need to do this?
4 `( A; K3 D8 S# mpunsihment for what???
! e. Z: W% S' z7 J7 q- R: Xfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ m; I  h6 L# ]( A& O, _0 n+ w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 d) D$ u% p& X( J; F2 x. a8 ^
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉5 }8 J" a' [) P6 Y  w  g
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ [% P/ m$ Y' \3 `& Abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 F7 ^" r3 x( Z; j9 e4 U2 icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" Y% ?4 D1 `* G4 L, x9 R+ d' g6 |! t) H4 xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* K! W3 h% E9 |+ d2 y0 f9 Qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things " D. g; s! `# d
but why jesus need to do this?
8 c- ]. M. T* d/ Ypunsihment for what???8 C  k' [1 L# p( y. e: W5 S
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" z8 P1 W6 u2 i5 N( j  c8 G1 L4 xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers. I  n. m0 m0 y. c6 y, g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 9 U  L* U, I5 o! l
what will u do???
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  R, M8 q/ Q! {- osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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! d) i$ x! u  `, b3 F$ W- Cbro, did u know that there is a...

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* A+ I. }* V- h: G$ W# Q! j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 ?* U! J- Y1 s+ W/ v8 X議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  P' j- D" b( n, H( x# o" P8 J, @
honestly, if there is jesus2 Y2 T& t% B0 i3 ?* z$ H8 o9 r" s% y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life8 F$ J4 H$ T4 U6 \
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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9 l2 G! U+ n/ ?now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  e$ H5 f/ L' v( I0 j& `  s
bro singgeihot and rest365days. c! G/ q, }+ c
honestly, if there is jesus
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5 `; L" j- {& E, Q: j( Runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 ]7 T' D) Q8 ~' \, H( botherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:: @, }3 f# U  Z& V3 f
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: