jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% w; {6 x" F* ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; ?% K2 P) `/ l) q4 nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- h8 ~& U. s+ V( Q# Zmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
' r6 n' t& b$ B' t1 }but why jesus need to do this?
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3 r& ~) u8 b3 E) O! E; y: Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 ?9 ?  F. e/ w7 p% V1 W' c8 ~
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 ]8 W# V  x1 U! v2 L; q, x
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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) z! N; Z, Z) m但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ V# ]' f" |5 \% h4 T' nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, C& m7 I- ^" u# d& q* Z' P4 ?1 b
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
: f" e4 {5 x+ n+ `why this happen? just simple........punishment) ~0 e% L7 X/ p7 [0 J$ B1 `
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 |3 ~+ k5 }4 ~# `but why jesus need to do this?
; X9 c# X" Q5 Q% U# p( q2 ]punsihment for what???
2 ^/ ]3 _; L3 sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: C3 U3 W& _& F4 L. r  J( G7 ]
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 D6 L+ _! S$ ?, s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' h  m6 V8 X) R( y: o3 g( Vwhat will u do???: z- f1 L) B& q3 h1 _9 C
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , ~* m" M2 f0 e2 C

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$ D: F$ z; n# z) {8 asorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# b/ C: t- X: `; w5 B
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! K4 H5 a# A0 h' |4 x: R
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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. @. L, V1 u( g' Y2 ]  x. Qyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ E0 R8 Y/ C$ L( qjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it$ k  p4 Q+ t& m
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, E& i: x; X* A4 G# W" Q
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus7 A) B" o  R5 [' z, ^5 q$ F3 R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& L/ U4 L+ n9 F' U8 w' `, V9 G4 ~
we can't blow him :cool:

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6 z- V# |# B$ {' f& u* w' D9 Xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics- M% O" D1 O0 M$ o% t+ U: ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" g8 x: x2 E7 H3 X# k4 Y6 d
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: