jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
* b& J/ K; k3 ]6 m仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
6 Z  A+ |( d) b" w/ p7 H& ?  Q...

% a& R( H/ p: \& K0 D

  n0 }8 |& V  B3 ]% O0 abro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ X# W: K2 s, W7 q: c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case& r' \* e% l) \0 u
why this happen? just simple........punishment) _. n; r7 M. T# Z7 D
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% |( r% H7 X' y& ?5 F# vbut why jesus need to do this?0 e, J" x2 [% t9 K. `4 T: r. d
punsihment for what???
' e, U" a9 o6 nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
7 W& G3 H7 Z* Z! v' w2 w* Btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  V6 X; F0 I2 P# ]) Q' M" p; w" Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  O" C$ p2 \* R: _6 R) ewhat will u do???
6 z% [) K( T( P6 t* bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
0 F  n3 o! [0 d4 ^5 M1 O+ d8 Q2 ?4 B6 e+ O8 X) q, y* p5 }
& k; u4 O( m6 a& F
yes, what did u think is what i...

, L4 B. r/ W5 B. Z, C6 g- @, d1 W, i4 f1 G8 Z- p- u
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; Y2 H5 J: Z3 j( S6 G! `

/ B8 k. }) P5 d* S( j. ^9 D9 D但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排- ^  s' u% n5 d; O2 i, Q

; k0 p% J3 ~: D' M) u; y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:, ?9 l2 q7 o2 [  R
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?' i& c( B" M3 ?# }( d
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- L8 w; E8 M( \) S/ v2 C5 D3 P: K7 W
why this happen? just simple........punishment
" M( }- {- Y0 P; h1 h, Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . e' L0 Z1 ^8 P9 Q" x
but why jesus need to do this?
. J! j( x9 k9 _# A2 Qpunsihment for what???8 S$ M* E+ _# c  }! M: W
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
, x5 E  \8 B! _( [try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  c. r7 Y0 h& f5 J  C+ Q, ]" {  t: l0 U
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ S' r  J* k* f
what will u do???" k' p4 N& g7 U+ P9 G
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
' \" ?9 f3 D$ G, E

) j) \) W. |: ~9 j, D7 |1 y9 h+ ^1 C0 t+ v& N2 v( W' n; A" N, @
sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
* {5 n, v' L& ?! H0 D: F( g, h9 }: a1 Z" g, ^9 b! ^2 v0 S
' J. J! I0 W0 f4 m. V+ D5 h- G6 q
bro, did u know that there is a...

2 K, E0 M4 W/ E- R( ^3 }  V2 W
! ?2 S% d1 ?) |1 H3 m( p( j
( M! @* \4 \( G! {2 L
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
& V; J5 e( k/ j1 b6 y  v9 ?, r8 F  R  U4 B; Y
議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days9 l0 z6 W. }! @4 T0 E
honestly, if there is jesus5 ~8 |& N: s- V' U- ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus6 `$ H' v5 w0 J* W4 @7 b6 y
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 A4 y" H' \! U! C7 [, T
$ A- M2 ~& v1 F3 \  O0 X$ L$ M- O

/ v8 `' O* N6 ]5 E3 l  G
2 m6 A8 m% H) l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

7 R5 s  `: s$ N" C4 t1 n  v* o# r5 x0 `
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. h5 T. k# I! R# |just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
7 H- c, w' s+ o& G7 ^+ A6 {8 e5 }so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......, e. g4 [, m, H* g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' m; P1 O; a+ _7 }! |bro singgeihot and rest365days
( }5 W3 [! Y( s$ ihonestly, if there is jesus7 b( U/ u* X" K; v7 G: Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 u! D$ Q4 ]& h2 [% `" Ewe can't blow him :cool:

% Z. k' h: \( ?9 C0 D  j' f
% P6 r8 {/ J- [- g' J9 N$ \5 lunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
' w, n8 g7 w& R8 w3 Kotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- E6 Q1 a+ f0 m/ L$ Y1 _; R# F
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

0 }- w# {( j9 _$ `  y& Z  e0 ]  B7 U; E- n  T  v+ i* I+ u
haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: