jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:5 a4 Y& h, i: Q5 u0 w& z# x
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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3 p9 }4 f% \: o1 Kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% b" p0 J; J: q, s
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 I1 e! ?( Y: ~; j9 m$ G! jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* {% i6 o5 u6 k! I& x2 o+ tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 2 g; S" A' `; @4 V- O
but why jesus need to do this?4 u: t7 x- x7 Q3 i
punsihment for what???6 B- N# k9 p8 ^$ A  i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: h: S/ H$ u- J- Gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 M0 B3 f8 a; h; Q6 u. ~but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 G% v4 d6 W+ myes, what did u think is what i...

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4 ~) [  f0 a/ O# W/ b, _咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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. n  |9 l% e. C2 Z2 |但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: `+ a) Q! v( {- q2 pbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ M( t  g  j* V" [$ B( j% G  k( N- \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 p, l' g- l) \) e/ d9 ]3 Q  Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: H) f. E8 d7 b9 O0 i5 q* v! Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 y& u3 p! S: e% h! `& l* x4 j
but why jesus need to do this?3 W  @! M& e" @% [; C  y* t8 S* C
punsihment for what???  H2 e1 J9 K% E, a4 |2 O
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: F- e9 H) ~8 s- ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers6 a6 g# o# ]  A! x8 {
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / l6 ]9 E2 q% _& x9 U3 y# Z' m
what will u do???
$ @$ |% d4 _8 U- g7 I3 ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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- j" A( E; J& \: z1 M/ h: _" wsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:; v) m, x% X* H* \2 ~% A/ R
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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' L) w7 R* a1 S* P7 e) U- Y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ; k: Q! Z8 t( U* c! L" I- b: y

$ D& `( f( m& R8 h4 g+ ^議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 n4 R. e# c/ g. N, pwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:! \( \/ j+ r% H
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life: E/ Z" C3 p6 q. Q) |( w- e
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
. L5 p% g5 q4 tso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 d; c% _# X! X) ^& enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:$ \' Q( p& q3 x( ^4 T
bro singgeihot and rest365days$ ]" e; S) w, f( k7 |1 l2 x
honestly, if there is jesus4 ?( n5 V* d; o# U7 N$ ]
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( z% y% Q( O4 N; B. ]
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics; z1 Z* q* n# }  X1 b7 R
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:. ?4 W$ R0 i6 I7 _
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; o9 q7 R- X& p+ t  ohaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: