jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:$ w7 F- \- K. w& S
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! U3 a, C  h7 Z  g3 q; w7 ^& _( P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" _$ E3 K6 |7 b8 Zwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& o2 @4 I$ R4 G! s2 u! Lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
8 W: y( n' \6 [- T8 h6 tbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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what will u do???
4 E( v+ t9 O2 Njust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:1 e4 \1 S2 N) e! D3 a8 O0 e
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 ]9 S$ Z% H" P) ?
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排3 T1 q! S! m- [% _0 G& k
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:  C9 @  h* g+ I! N0 v# f* G: Q( K
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 G$ d( u+ _/ {0 x' W5 V9 jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 z" F2 Q5 a7 D5 W/ F) _
why this happen? just simple........punishment
5 n/ l3 U8 l, u7 C; h& @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things / P* e! D0 x1 k) }5 Q  a# E& O' A" M
but why jesus need to do this?
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; h8 j8 V9 ^* A; i" {for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 A& a2 W1 T; K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' a$ c7 ^4 `6 ^$ Q' L, R0 Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 L1 N, f( _$ J' H4 u" p
what will u do???3 C; U; M+ L0 p7 g. i9 ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, " F6 T5 f1 ?1 h! d' ?% R

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 / I' Z3 k/ U" S1 l" h9 |) z* G

6 s$ E1 h- w. T4 m. }1 S議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days0 R, A4 R: U; ^
honestly, if there is jesus
1 `8 A& X2 f& D! b: Ghe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus5 w& m) u% X, j( A" G. N
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 w- R) v: o" C0 x/ E- g
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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5 _" v  B! h5 F) M; O0 v2 i" s1 Inow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 P) |- D* n" A5 J1 L$ |bro singgeihot and rest365days1 L6 B8 c" _8 B  [9 F. B% [
honestly, if there is jesus/ @+ J0 c6 @- R: k" x- f( M
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
* j* i+ T# D* nwe can't blow him :cool:

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7 r* u0 {8 k, T' |; O# |understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 a9 b& Z- P: p( `2 N6 f2 l
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; V9 C, W3 N' `% Z7 k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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  G5 I' e) W+ D7 f" |haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: