jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:- A0 }+ P, s$ q/ y. l
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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0 g7 h7 ^2 A& M  z* ?6 ?1 ~! Vbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, i/ D  {5 Y* V7 s1 @
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
9 N: R3 z0 W$ e. r5 qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment6 o/ H. H3 W! m" \# _
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 F. ?6 |* b" B" Gbut why jesus need to do this?' w0 T% \) Z8 _' X! I
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???* h; C' k$ W  k1 J9 A3 K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:. H3 W. @9 e: u; g, X% r; ^
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ Y, O: n5 f4 O  B: I! s0 P  b
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?; S: Q3 a6 J" m7 ^& B: e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 _; z" I! f/ ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment( z% i; B& w3 W% w" [2 l. I% L0 z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # u/ p5 o6 q4 x) d% V0 |
but why jesus need to do this?
! z& f# j/ A0 L& Fpunsihment for what???
, g' Q8 a3 P: ~5 P" x: T! I& Dfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; G9 b1 P! O" h7 {9 y7 W0 O+ n  R3 N+ }try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" b7 \9 C8 [2 _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 h$ L, o# D: y# p" ]% F
what will u do???, Y. k& ?3 {3 S: Q$ ~
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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. D/ q" x+ S- d! o* gsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# |0 m9 h8 R8 _# q' h4 K

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 N  Q+ }  l6 c6 g6 S5 z9 \9 e3 T  }好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 8 m0 b  G# L/ o* q( o8 u. b( K5 O! u

1 O1 ?$ Y: s5 I7 T議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 D# f6 L; L6 \! }9 yhonestly, if there is jesus
) v* ]5 U3 J+ y( [5 n5 @3 @he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus) ^; F+ R2 U% m0 v( ~) S! u
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:8 r9 n/ P9 `+ j6 U- q3 r) v

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 G7 N, R! E  V" O* M/ q6 u; gyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
8 f# U+ [1 S/ ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:/ O6 d8 j# V1 J+ d2 ?
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 e5 X# V9 Q/ ~. p
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: