jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& Y! Q) b) S5 X0 B! V, }( w! m
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
6 i7 _2 ^& `( r" J8 Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
) R& j$ V3 A7 e; Z/ _! h/ amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: `8 D. Q! W4 k5 K4 wbut why jesus need to do this?
' S7 q# @* T4 Vpunsihment for what???8 l9 C& S; G3 N* @
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: s- g- E& o2 Z4 M* P
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. n* A2 P* J0 H, ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! Q2 o& W) P  K- m1 o+ U
what will u do???
/ j  o+ ^. C8 M) r; W% B3 R) r/ D, Tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:& C& |5 Y- C2 p( Q0 h
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  `3 a. c+ S/ o- S) i: syes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉& h7 f* m2 p) p2 |+ S" |# B) [
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 ?5 s, x" G4 T1 C) q8 j

0 T# V. u+ Y7 U6 A( M3 `0 }咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
+ T. p( X4 r/ N* {6 t" _7 ~bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
% t, o+ ]8 J* X: q& K7 ]- ?comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; l0 O) P) J$ s4 ?3 E9 Q( i$ H9 Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment' j  B! h0 J" G  r# N
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
# N1 k) }; E3 j: Nbut why jesus need to do this?
) |9 N7 @% X5 x4 _! \8 Gpunsihment for what???
7 k7 h2 c& ], S3 C& H* q+ ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% G/ g6 Q1 h) z9 D
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 E. E7 M" k' [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* }, s6 S, J4 owhat will u do???
/ G0 {5 ^7 q  t' M( }just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % h' M# F* X' N! G

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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/ M  p' ~5 ^/ k, n* p: G% u3 Wbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : N9 E* O$ e. g8 r7 `  q6 m5 F$ W
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 W7 c6 K  j; V' w: l9 o3 mhonestly, if there is jesus3 `# A0 W9 ?- O! e0 F' Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus  y% d, Y4 ?5 n* z* O+ w& t
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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, i1 M8 C/ X  o' N9 c* Ryes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life! T% X' i* @" Z  P: s' W. k  e; Z8 |
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 n- r! i+ K* I# i- X+ Aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
  t* Z" D- l- k* y4 `0 Nnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ p. _9 ~- O+ q1 V6 Z
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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5 K2 P* i7 Z* V% Z( L( t; Whe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 @# n& M& L: W1 a  @7 [/ j
we can't blow him :cool:

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  s, f* Z0 h8 k2 vunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics' D& }& c! u: L7 R  Y1 `
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: