jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
( U! ]: n7 f2 M& H: F  s, T仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
3 i# X- g" e$ i- H- A  Q...

% K' P( {$ f- F8 G3 V1 M, }; u

' S; H+ A- [5 {8 I1 Z+ W) rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
! h# a. Y0 U( ^3 h# dcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ ?) |; X" g/ m9 hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
" E# j9 ^$ m+ c9 {8 J2 e' r" ]0 f# Lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 9 t: S+ O. f- B& @7 w7 ?+ t5 H9 f
but why jesus need to do this?
' t  q9 @+ g7 ?' Q! a& jpunsihment for what???( Y8 ^& D7 @/ U" C! \8 p/ _  N
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus% z( a+ f9 u' F6 H# E7 Z9 \
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 x# l- I8 p+ N) W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ) z, s- w6 b* X: [* f  q5 q
what will u do???1 {7 Y$ E) C1 p; D. L0 h$ e+ M; E
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 B4 o: ]+ {7 [3 d# q6 C

$ n* |+ A, d  [2 Z/ [
3 Y, K. V0 r) ~! D+ P) q; `yes, what did u think is what i...

3 W0 v& |! L4 \# [/ O5 [* m; Y  w7 v& [" a
咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ H# r  I/ F8 d0 }3 z' K* f

7 q) l+ V, n5 x3 H/ G+ z4 \但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排2 t. i- h2 R3 L; s1 J# o
2 S' \7 D7 P0 D* `, m& ]1 Y7 I7 y( @
咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 ^& Z4 O# X5 w; s$ k
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?& g) O3 D# S9 H3 M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. n7 j; L! ?. ^, K$ ?
why this happen? just simple........punishment
7 V. U8 m* }5 R  g  y0 Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 v3 @! I3 p' X& G
but why jesus need to do this?- U/ q8 `5 L- `5 v# R
punsihment for what???
: U" F/ @6 y3 A; |4 `0 Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 W! g4 C# w! C9 u% N7 D4 Q5 a, ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 V* S5 f) G, ?! M7 r
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, F3 J7 `, `& Q; {0 Ywhat will u do???, s9 F5 {# J) E/ z. w$ f# J
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
: P; I6 I! `( N& ]

" G! `! B* Z( T, {" w7 }

7 r* k! f5 W! t# I' e6 R+ Usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
% ?5 g3 {; d5 f/ b
0 T, Y; j0 [# }& H
! V, P; I- `: sbro, did u know that there is a...

* Z5 |' _, L" I4 x- s- f  d0 {# h3 c- Q2 ?

, T( G& w7 e# `. a7 x  c6 o好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : j8 j( a0 h5 h9 b  w1 O- b

" u0 ^- ]4 k" L7 ?議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
- H, ~7 ?0 ?+ i& O) G/ ehonestly, if there is jesus
# h! `- I) p  E3 G- A$ She really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- X6 ?9 y1 x5 N  G  W% |2 h4 \we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:6 u/ f6 S# A0 [
( x* @) o, D" y! B

- \5 v  z: q# F% R! z: x6 s$ C! a
好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

2 o5 V5 q3 g: j$ I4 @. a3 a- E( x) M4 T6 c& p/ y$ f% j
yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life* z7 z( B: `; H9 ^: C3 C( z* G2 E
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 n: }/ s. u: K8 u; z' Aso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......- Z9 Y8 H% |, ~5 H8 S  f
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: ]- y9 H$ K3 N% {: Wbro singgeihot and rest365days
$ k8 ]: N( V$ K5 o# A4 ]+ [honestly, if there is jesus1 [& S% z2 k6 }" k0 y1 M& f
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
' p$ B+ v8 o$ Z8 e  cwe can't blow him :cool:

: x$ N0 H, e' O0 }

( D: h. |9 ~( c+ ]" S3 h# Hunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics  o* o# S4 ?) ~2 B
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:) Q8 k1 Z# v+ Z6 K9 y* z
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

8 u. c" E+ @# u5 X4 U

$ p4 f) w1 Y& \& R6 l% T/ zhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: