jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( W8 U# k. C3 F
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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" R% l: [; d1 Y$ ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 s, \% t( p. i# a1 X
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( ^, m/ `' N. G; n& dwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
5 K7 o: q" M# V  z6 Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & o) D* u! g0 u9 Y' l  @0 V
but why jesus need to do this?- S7 T9 X6 k# a7 A/ ^% E
punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers  y9 L4 \( t$ ^- e" E" v
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 T' K2 l* K( X  e; m* r% D
what will u do???* W. V; |, Z! I$ H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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$ F$ I. \+ g' K0 Q5 W$ Y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: x- Q( m) c- l0 X8 J4 ?1 b. N

, [  v& D1 K2 u9 }  |  U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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1 d0 _5 {5 M) X( M" E, q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
2 i' K/ j) P* Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 U# \' z+ }* C$ @' w4 Icomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% ~7 R9 D' ?: G7 Z# ?5 `) h# jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment4 o: a, z" e: ~6 r- ~- i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things % j4 ^; F* T2 S  r
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus* @) n3 |  [7 P/ ^& ^# R0 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers3 A+ D0 i" @9 Q
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
9 @/ }& P% D3 s2 |. i1 G" g' Rwhat will u do???% u2 b0 S4 h' x. Q5 ^% i
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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: W( U( a$ p% L' i3 x. Ysorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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) V9 a$ \0 n( G4 g, Cbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  c# C7 J4 ?5 W4 Q
honestly, if there is jesus
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+ |8 ]% J4 M) K( rwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:* y6 `/ _8 V& M( X

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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' A* u+ }$ a1 W" d$ Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( |  N( N, u$ {  _just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 Y+ M1 o% F( z! S! q# @
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......( G$ j3 w! R, J1 T/ @
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
2 h4 h1 K+ w7 v' V/ ?bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 V- r+ _* y& K* I: Vhonestly, if there is jesus  ?# t1 t2 H3 }0 i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* D; n7 [* o. F/ j5 A
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) C+ S* F/ ?0 t' {
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" Z6 y. v% C* W* s1 E
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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  R. i! z4 \! ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: