jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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3 G+ V# B' v0 w6 O2 a! Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?% l. K/ d& X+ j# h: j
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ m# _& x3 ?8 |" f" W' l, Y1 Jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment; b8 v4 z$ \# W- k. |% ]
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . `2 f9 U2 W) h$ r9 F
but why jesus need to do this?4 k8 s1 S8 J9 _7 H% i  q
punsihment for what???, Q& v0 R  U* W6 o$ d( d
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
  X' d2 y$ c) j$ |try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 U9 i2 O" Q6 j$ R, y% O: wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! }! N) v( {" T; U, I% E6 Iwhat will u do???; `+ o; P8 R3 k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 G% }' c& ~6 B8 N* t9 x
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
& I9 T( D6 I& {, w' Z# ?bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 O8 _  ]) e; Q" i: C# ]$ S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; Y* I9 I/ M% R
why this happen? just simple........punishment
% V4 H  R1 d  r+ hmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( r6 |2 x, w3 H- F. q1 q+ X
but why jesus need to do this?+ o4 P7 O  |8 X- E" k% n: [
punsihment for what???
' h' O) w2 U% Y( I5 A! S# |! ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; g) H3 a1 ~- R9 Y; gtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 c! f0 _' Z) a( g8 k) Y- y2 u6 W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' m, `& f( ~& W- s* k+ b
what will u do???" P0 w! l2 E: ~' v
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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" t/ F4 Z# `- z' y9 _sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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) w$ H; q: i% J! I3 |) G: ubro, did u know that there is a...

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( `" ?# |3 `1 q' W4 \  L好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 1 m0 T9 G+ y% C3 i) Z/ n
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
5 t' t; }4 U* o" Y' @honestly, if there is jesus
7 a' g( q' C8 ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 h; r7 }$ w7 E, Dwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life" N! k5 E8 ?4 ?( n' I0 z4 k
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ `4 _* m4 t" @! v& ?4 `# d2 z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ L  r6 J9 ^  @
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! c" W& q5 |4 w0 mbro singgeihot and rest365days
' z. ]) t8 \6 Y9 B  [  khonestly, if there is jesus* K, d6 f& S7 F9 t1 Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& k/ e4 M+ {: t
we can't blow him :cool:

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# f1 l1 j+ N( R$ ?7 Dunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics7 V/ _8 Z! t; d: ~. b" ~
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:3 M1 F! x7 g2 d+ p' X/ a" r
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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( z5 ?$ G0 i  `haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: