jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:4 y! Y5 v! @* \
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: I7 @( Q9 T% c; @4 N' Q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 e1 t5 B. e1 [% X+ V' R* L* `( Wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# G3 i, ~$ y$ ]$ H) v3 n# n! ^! Bmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & w2 |' p% n! |& _. V$ ?8 A9 e& C
but why jesus need to do this?2 P- o' q( \; u
punsihment for what???. I( d9 L) L5 A( r& ]2 h
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 u' t% q( N6 {' D7 @* O% h
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:  v, U7 C, R+ {' }$ V
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉" m1 Y4 }, t1 E6 B& h, R* {' d
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
( L* ^; E6 o) x- ?  Tbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- V( I# y/ }7 [( V5 e
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. V0 b2 a% o9 pwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
( X2 X" M3 H( S+ U  W( U9 W3 Smany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # }0 B! ^8 x; [& l! i- ]. p
but why jesus need to do this?1 ]8 I2 ^) e" l- R4 l
punsihment for what???! [% Q6 X  u9 R( }2 L. v! E. U
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 `+ U) T9 A9 i( `0 z$ d" c3 Stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 P. M- Y" j& |$ ?
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # w9 V" B0 v, l8 i& O. y
what will u do???
% s" H, [  J9 \! [" l' H' pjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, : ^6 X/ L) E$ N. q

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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- l+ ~6 T1 @, }7 u9 Y好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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0 q* q$ x; @$ j) {! }議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
3 t; J) f0 ^6 E: h  y4 I! ^6 Hhonestly, if there is jesus
# Z& ^# O0 J/ V& n) T( a* the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% _' j: q% a, v/ u: Y1 S( @
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life7 q5 g( m( z2 b2 H+ E& x- f$ N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it; q2 T! k8 C3 x, }, k
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
5 u4 |" ?$ _0 C1 M+ h3 `now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
/ i, o$ [+ F5 K1 |bro singgeihot and rest365days: |& k+ C6 W! b0 d& N
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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5 |6 f2 N/ Z! {; v5 M! Yunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 w! \& E9 u: e4 Jotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
: \: W) ]" O! T5 P5 }# t自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: