jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& j5 T# d( S: L- k' G# H( M仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架% y4 t3 D9 P) K+ E3 B) E
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3 M# p1 g8 r0 K) L, Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ {9 U% q, a6 h
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- X2 _- ?% S3 }' L
why this happen? just simple........punishment
/ w: v( G/ Z& Y( M! Lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 _5 d- Q3 ~8 y5 [3 ?' Vbut why jesus need to do this?
5 l, Y" `9 h5 E1 ]: `punsihment for what???
8 j& o/ J/ j8 F* o5 Ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 J& ^* n8 _2 m% [: ^3 ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) C' t3 f0 k) |% l2 v& A* V, Rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 4 j6 F( C! h, a1 t, P0 C# D
what will u do???' L) \7 B; V/ R* r$ ~/ ?) _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:/ p, p% L2 M( y% w

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3 S5 }9 E$ ?8 v0 {- Dyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉9 ]4 b, |' z* A- e

0 L! K6 K9 R% e但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ _& l0 {% d2 s0 t; m4 Q+ }0 T
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- C2 K; T! z. K% J  m4 }0 ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 [# @$ d1 H( ]; |7 q! B- O% ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment0 y( G, T$ {) L3 |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . f4 W& v5 u( X- S
but why jesus need to do this?# C% P6 ~# i7 _8 R) x4 f
punsihment for what???5 e, [9 m' U! J; r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 O8 x( R/ C- h  q" ?: ?
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers9 `. F/ x5 l, @% F7 l- h' i9 B8 m5 J
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 z; y/ c/ Y% c% \1 C* J3 _what will u do???
* V9 f  I  k* U: v; L; tjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 9 G0 X5 @  ]) O1 E

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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  n" v: v3 h2 T* R$ ^2 A* g6 Obro, did u know that there is a...

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9 g/ C, C! g+ T2 f好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' C% B* D4 ~( i8 y' R( r7 k
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days- o( F5 Q& }8 m. U9 l8 G
honestly, if there is jesus& f0 }8 k+ t& ~  @- B+ }8 `
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. J0 A3 K" y! b, k7 Mwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 y+ i7 V6 t# z/ z1 V3 V+ j

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# H% p5 {2 A" O3 k/ j好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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1 x  B7 L% G. q3 y% F" [/ myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 B; a+ i2 [. u# v1 @( |$ ?. u0 Vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& u# ~* a' {0 h5 n
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
( [/ w5 @6 X; w* F. x+ c% qnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:! H1 c5 g3 F' r
bro singgeihot and rest365days, s) N9 c8 b4 |1 G, P- j% M' W# A
honestly, if there is jesus) s/ f. n. }1 I, Z
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus2 w9 s) F, y" U# _! r0 a; j/ B9 x5 [
we can't blow him :cool:

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+ q$ \  h1 N# U% @9 runderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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; Z4 b: t: \! h& H4 f2 }haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: