jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
& s$ e0 s$ @- J' v+ G2 J4 M2 u仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架: b0 d7 F' {+ N. U
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, w, P* o: `0 U" i' g& c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case. Z* }$ b0 }- ]% a1 w  r1 s2 T# n
why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 ]8 }% Q6 y5 Mmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ T2 o8 {* }3 a' H+ i- }but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: z$ z) M$ M$ Y! ]. E+ N" {$ {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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0 w1 n+ N( _" j$ Bwhat will u do???- z1 L7 D4 o6 }8 [2 j* Y# j
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# L7 M4 f8 D& S  ]) g咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排8 q! A' O" T+ a( v
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# Y: y+ m6 }: }( x, }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ [2 X9 W% j) I6 }comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case8 r3 M! V% |' e0 d5 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment# s5 c" {) R1 i% e6 d! K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
! |& @8 w, h& k  ?6 v! Abut why jesus need to do this?
( U  m- y- `$ n% r" K7 o2 e2 O2 ypunsihment for what???: L" M7 W; ]& Y  L( g, {
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 R2 ]1 K$ t0 Q2 Itry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, M/ ^6 t  j  f, X
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ f1 H7 @( q, e4 k+ R
what will u do???" O% E# U: J7 j8 i3 ?- y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   o  n' L: E" G' ~2 |

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 b4 Q5 ^) n* n: |9 q9 D

$ u! G' j/ G7 M2 C) S: n議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ d; i0 L8 a- u6 d& `" K" ]9 lhonestly, if there is jesus
0 C7 W/ ?6 B" m7 the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. z* P6 A: I' s" B, B8 Vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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6 z) N% [  J( z2 O, |yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life& A$ B# J  l2 n! V
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
$ [9 b) t" d& p; m% u7 xso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......2 M1 R# n  j6 k3 W; l8 @* g1 R9 p3 `, O
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:# X1 b. M+ f0 x" U
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! [$ p) A+ l+ x+ U3 ^3 G9 R  ^' H3 ohonestly, if there is jesus' p" o# w7 Q; k- {3 D6 o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
, V% s. ^$ O0 Q1 x9 l6 O. }we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 v( E: K+ u* z, }/ b) }; i4 \
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
) M3 {' R" I: N2 Q% h" d自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: