jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: n) E3 q. B% B9 I$ Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 u' d0 }0 P6 Ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
$ E0 v' p8 n4 {6 u  Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : X' m: e; M9 M/ p! I# Z
but why jesus need to do this?; @& A1 @4 u: ^6 m2 W" f
punsihment for what???
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4 W6 D$ `- @$ @# c" q# `/ @# Ctry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers1 b  x  T4 f* D) \2 h8 b' k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ; {8 x4 r- c: i6 M
what will u do???) T. s' L1 v  {( y/ n9 }7 {
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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, L! ~# v) O) r  C# I但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ [% r1 ^; O) v5 h$ P3 Z5 b
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. @6 x, f/ x8 X9 ~  K# O
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- _( d' h1 T: K+ X6 A0 Q& m# S! ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 t+ S2 E" D6 Z2 i' l0 @! X) \3 ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
; L; Q) F2 ]: h/ k2 c) M+ v1 omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # b9 C# v" }3 G/ c4 t' X5 v, k
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: t9 c" O. g5 @# L: c$ ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
) w9 Y# n4 b3 z: G. X9 jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' j# x( S- t! i6 h) ~/ i; S
what will u do???
, y4 `7 v. _; g  Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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6 K7 n+ ~) A) J, R' L! B7 i: J6 ~& psorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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( U( n2 J) o5 C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days! T; h: }* u% N8 P. {! h
honestly, if there is jesus9 i; H& e% }  d, K8 D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 B1 |4 B7 m- I' v. K2 ^
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:- [7 E+ O# b4 O) `' b) o. d% N
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life# ~0 ~' f, K1 v
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: d/ c' U* |. P
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 M; X+ M6 z& P" Y% e* [+ m
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:9 q" P# d$ ^5 F0 m* f9 a
bro singgeihot and rest365days1 g  T6 H) ?+ c+ |. [
honestly, if there is jesus" ^7 a: Z; @8 b- C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus0 S" k1 Z+ x2 |) \4 V& M
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 O; K7 o5 k, E# H: v7 H  Lotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: