jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:( \% j' X% d2 o9 B# f
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 `3 h4 X% |4 e0 X, h: o( m
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& C; K; e- I: M; |% ?3 a8 Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
: O- e+ J/ i& n7 F; J) m! ^. a; R6 Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( w+ m0 ]) z& }0 `8 {) Hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: _5 Y) Y3 h5 h8 U9 ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- ^" r( E+ m  I2 F# ebut why jesus need to do this?+ v7 |# d# Y3 E1 h7 b
punsihment for what???$ v  s$ x% d8 y( S2 {  g( x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
/ `8 l; b3 Y7 Jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
4 U. P1 l' M8 j0 M+ [but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " O# E' O* F2 O
what will u do???* O( ^+ m0 a  F
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:4 y) k: ^1 d# I6 K. b  p) [

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# z3 K0 Z0 @6 y3 q0 ~8 ?: Oyes, what did u think is what i...

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5 c6 c# p2 ~8 B8 m9 m9 i% I咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉: e7 X8 Y" \; w" `5 ]7 }! l
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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2 [3 H1 Z# j6 w0 |咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
4 y5 l' ]" V% ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) O  N& L  G% Q! Jcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" Y- `  n% P2 V
why this happen? just simple........punishment) @$ c( M& {+ r; P3 d. K/ k* Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
9 k4 b) b: @6 r" sbut why jesus need to do this?8 I' z+ e5 d: D5 K& b5 m
punsihment for what???
& A* c: g4 G9 H$ {, x5 yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 V$ k- L' H' y9 }( t4 b! ~
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers% O8 S# D! D( w& F/ v8 p
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 y9 F! A2 E+ F7 p* x
what will u do???
1 @# T" e7 ]9 y+ ~  z$ b+ I/ j$ Xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, 0 A* F- h9 J0 e" q6 X5 v/ Z

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 @+ R$ T  J3 p6 o

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * ^9 Q# M7 J* O1 n( x+ |

) ?/ ^2 ]7 y3 O議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( o  Q- w6 z  _: W+ ^0 r8 y! V
honestly, if there is jesus9 T: R9 x$ E6 a/ P
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
9 L& j- o9 R- c( lwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 Z1 f1 B( c( d2 G2 A4 w  ~
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
+ H5 @& ^3 r. J% E" Y! K* Lso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......9 J! i% w  r( i" k# _# j8 k  q  }% U
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% q! Y$ x* ]) D' B
bro singgeihot and rest365days
+ p! p8 h9 p! ~% {honestly, if there is jesus
4 q( N, j4 Q- V. y/ o( R" q  bhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
" N! c7 z- n9 n) n4 Q# twe can't blow him :cool:

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/ t7 ~2 |; C/ K# K( Funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, m5 n" v) \: r3 u1 F4 J
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:5 M8 P2 [$ p3 p/ @/ Q, Y
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; O6 C1 Y+ s7 X- C7 Thaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: