jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:, O4 O$ O2 X9 X0 D/ H0 y
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  `/ u- Q* `9 p# h
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?! P6 [# Y" d! B( z) ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
0 V; N- O& u$ b6 R) \  w- V, ewhy this happen? just simple........punishment
: q2 g) r3 }$ t8 t) r, C! }1 g) fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% {" w8 }* s7 a: y5 u( p2 tbut why jesus need to do this?+ v4 }" \5 p: z
punsihment for what???. x+ A  T. }. T# f, v6 M6 R
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 A/ @% G) a! g# j, w0 \, ptry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# l' L% N2 P% O5 ^% A
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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# @. ]0 i, W" f& [6 {4 X1 s; X但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排/ e: h- U& \6 Y2 a& U7 b

2 l1 y- p# ^4 y$ r& u; Y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# e5 f1 s' A4 d( @+ rbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ L. g3 ^  A& y4 ^comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; C! F. n) ?' D* a( ~6 V6 t* l
why this happen? just simple........punishment1 Q# ~# Z" x1 Z2 X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 ]9 l4 P) ?# Ebut why jesus need to do this?# E; I+ R* b/ Q$ }4 f* ?
punsihment for what???5 A/ u6 j/ U; `5 t; P* G: @& i
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 |1 K  Y/ h; h; w7 l# \) L* [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 T" ^: i) q8 e2 c' I: x: l
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ D5 d& I: u* a: q$ ], ]0 f' lwhat will u do???
+ P$ a4 Y8 S9 R* mjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days1 J2 U, h4 t; A, h1 ?
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
% j$ Z# k! a( M3 |( u) Ljust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 L/ `" ^( k* a
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 h$ U3 m2 `, {/ A3 D3 w0 }$ x
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus; V0 K, c; X+ C4 F# x# l& Q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
+ M/ O: j3 k3 m+ gwe can't blow him :cool:

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5 N& G3 n3 M) `& j: O! s1 munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 {. q* g5 L4 e, [. \; e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: