jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# F' w1 B9 D  U; {, Z3 U& }# f
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架  Q0 m" v  H  ]# F0 }- C
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 g  f8 L  T. [9 p% |0 Z2 ycomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ q0 J5 F* E; e* ~why this happen? just simple........punishment
1 T7 {5 o# _0 K: |many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ' }; [7 U5 I" L4 S) t  l
but why jesus need to do this?. Q1 I0 y1 ~1 \# Q$ f
punsihment for what???
( O3 V. P- F( M8 W3 kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 H$ y( R0 B! M! z) }& a
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& T/ R( T* i- T, v0 ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: r' {$ Q+ }& ?- I5 r! swhat will u do???$ c, S* ?9 w9 X7 F7 f5 z1 H
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ L  ~0 }2 P* Z6 E2 ?& E

. q7 n0 ]% z. U" W3 y# b4 b但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ \0 D) O) ]" d( e1 U

( b) U6 h( y; U9 n1 `$ Y咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ b" G/ f: L+ [. D+ s3 T( y% H
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: s9 k! }; z  J7 X4 m/ g0 d. P
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- n8 k& Q3 p6 x% K: X8 C
why this happen? just simple........punishment
! h; E7 `. f. amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 Y0 \' x; P! i$ t4 {, V
but why jesus need to do this?
) W& s8 w* v; n5 J$ ^6 v2 a/ u" hpunsihment for what???
* Z% c/ }/ T& G' afor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
2 Q9 {8 [" B/ x, n4 w# N) stry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, t0 P* ~, l0 U' b+ K
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
% M) g  }$ u+ Gwhat will u do???: |9 y9 w  B. \3 w3 X
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 9 c/ a2 \' Z9 u% A. P( k7 [2 Z

) g* c6 E4 w6 K# @, [. G5 F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
& A6 X( @1 b+ e* @7 E* ~7 Qhonestly, if there is jesus) V: G5 q- d+ D
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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+ Q# q2 Z$ R; ]2 d/ byes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
( h& x, N' D1 n) K# vjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it, B# B+ c1 m8 i- C5 {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....../ R" m# N0 J: _6 r' a1 H
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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6 b9 ~) v( o% vhonestly, if there is jesus
0 o  Z& e' ^" I$ Uhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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5 G: h( ^  D$ w+ funderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
$ R7 P4 b; p; T7 }8 Z0 j' S) G' Fotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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% \( b* L4 Q5 ?, {/ yhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: