jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
/ v1 i# `% _7 A$ o% Z2 J3 [9 D& c仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架' F1 t3 `% v4 d) I9 T* c" m
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. y% P: }, k' U- C! }) s2 {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
5 m, M0 n9 e% _0 ^  k5 Swhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 H( ^) p- ~% a# p% Q( C) u* Z
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things   f! k2 t- q# Y0 r" s- n* u. h
but why jesus need to do this?9 [6 V& \- j) u/ M
punsihment for what???
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$ \- A) ^8 L6 P( O; T; O0 t2 Xtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- j+ h; W3 ^/ Y" s) R; E5 Rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 5 {4 X9 I/ a+ p$ @
what will u do???) @. G/ M7 C9 q4 h+ p
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:3 q) }# m( _4 t6 y7 J+ H( @
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉# l: Q5 l4 k5 {
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排0 y; k5 J8 \4 y) z
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
1 y1 Y1 z" U5 d6 H0 x$ w+ _! Qbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ L0 t8 R: ~3 Z+ i2 @5 qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 W; f9 k: ^6 C6 g& L1 k
why this happen? just simple........punishment
+ [% X' m2 {- e& o# q% l# i' X4 O( w5 _many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : v& o( j. m, l- Z# c* T; c
but why jesus need to do this?7 M3 H: U( A1 ~* ~" J9 _
punsihment for what???2 F" ~! }2 r  w& b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" u6 Y1 _- d* Q0 Ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
' x+ d: G% e* k. ]! abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ J7 |9 o: T5 j$ u* I# Q: Cwhat will u do???
) j; @) o- c) A; f! f- ]just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / {+ J  p- y) Z' v

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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& M( u% @0 s/ F6 r7 A好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) [) J  l. [% j5 H5 ]

1 @( l1 O( m) Y議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# l* k/ ~- j% y% w: E2 \
honestly, if there is jesus
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, t/ j1 a6 S& d* i, twe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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6 W2 I5 }* O6 F1 B: eyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life/ \! I# x- H) J! D2 C. [
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it1 w% _; m. X: a+ [) E. N
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......6 }/ J0 k6 v0 j. o2 K
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
: B9 ^, I4 E1 u7 ]2 N  [bro singgeihot and rest365days
7 ?% Z, @- `+ \! a  Phonestly, if there is jesus5 [! X3 Y, O( [9 {
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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* X" G: p, O# h3 r3 e" D$ f* nunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics) T6 ]) q/ V. }7 X
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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; P, ~- s2 b3 `3 Q6 t8 Y) e6 Ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: