jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# w( K) D" ^0 c' y% K
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( i2 b, @; f+ \* t* a0 h* e
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?. j% O2 e7 ?) F0 L8 w7 u: q
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ C9 U1 d* }0 u! H4 l* ], R
why this happen? just simple........punishment* l& c2 q8 F  {) `( B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 b$ A1 L) o& k' V2 D! cbut why jesus need to do this?
2 f: _& F$ T" kpunsihment for what???
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3 p6 ?* u, _! C/ [# k+ F9 }8 u% ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers- @* q6 h% {" @
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 o3 _4 z6 b5 Q& ~: }- H9 }

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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6 V. _6 m: c  }, v. l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 {- V2 S* l0 q+ \1 V' T: b

7 z$ |5 c: Y9 g1 P/ m8 M# D' b咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:0 D8 J% v0 H6 B  A
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
. O6 |) k5 j/ T# ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ C# ]8 b4 z: Q
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ I; N. O: G2 V3 Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 C% d& J0 }0 E7 l, P0 b: u
but why jesus need to do this?
7 X/ @$ G( j$ x& t% k5 fpunsihment for what???7 P0 y1 b2 [- j  r
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus# @8 Z1 T- M; N2 p8 ^9 i, N( r
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ B7 B+ n0 F' j5 nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 n% r3 }4 ^9 \/ u# S( D2 uwhat will u do???1 f3 O6 o7 e6 x1 x/ {4 ^, B! M+ R5 o; K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ) d( w6 ?7 _. v" X" _- ]( m

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1 d7 }* \% P( b, ?* k; Rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 B3 B. J" ^* I7 j. Y6 n0 S  m好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 |1 E" f3 c3 K" H4 t' n
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days: }4 D7 i+ i. c: A" s: P% S: ]* Q
honestly, if there is jesus0 L8 n$ }+ L2 z4 I6 E9 p
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
# T2 O2 S, P4 Vwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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7 ]5 ?8 e$ |. a好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
0 s; J2 _$ T8 U/ pjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it4 w9 {5 X5 `1 B) h; s# ^
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
- [7 J4 E: L; b. w8 z; r# Rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:6 B' n. O0 B  G
bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ r2 z" V& h5 Z: ^5 u- ^+ F4 }honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics% F9 u- k' _4 ^; G! E# s
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
5 ^$ m  Q& u. y, s) X1 U" u自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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$ ~+ p; g4 @" Dhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: