jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:) g' u4 }4 h! p! M" ]* ^, t
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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' i+ f4 F$ z9 t; R* F7 s. U, Zbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- ?! w% S, o+ Ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
8 k3 t9 e2 u' }+ Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment% r( f# E/ [3 K+ w
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( m5 d% }9 `$ u4 ~but why jesus need to do this?
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6 `; Q; K) y0 V4 _9 P) sfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus, y* T5 C; l7 e$ t/ j/ C7 K
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& O( E5 R9 I' n: nbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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. O# O) i+ P& \, _  t. C/ Y2 ^just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# l9 J$ |7 i$ r- B+ `+ H( n

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉3 g9 {. [1 h9 t1 u

$ d" ~4 S2 b- b但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) j3 l, I8 s+ [' H5 @8 q
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. [0 M+ O' b! n+ f% J* m$ z$ N, t  B. \
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?6 v" I1 a2 Q3 g3 U5 ]3 X( B5 O- e, S
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case6 e, U/ }& s. Y) J8 }
why this happen? just simple........punishment+ a3 G% i" b: _8 j: }, l
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 V# o, t3 A3 ?; _5 b
but why jesus need to do this?7 I4 w9 y) s9 K0 J. j
punsihment for what???
$ [- }  Q0 D  T$ Y# hfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus4 E1 q; c) }6 F' U, H
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- o; M4 r) f. X4 }& ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* {2 }/ u- ?; J6 j/ o& W7 Fwhat will u do???
9 M7 q' w9 ~5 L1 h4 Yjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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9 s; Q& K' @6 G. _sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 f3 B+ b: R4 d9 A1 p' H7 y1 I* o

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" e' A( z. ]1 J8 ~) abro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ v7 Y: i* g, u, h! w0 H

9 `1 `" W/ w2 C, M議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# N  x3 l" B  t5 Q9 a
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life1 `, |* Q* W, o: c, G7 {
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! L, K, t# {8 {5 v# Bso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... k: u! L0 D; d: n; t5 m. u8 r$ U
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:% _2 r" w" ]8 H  k2 z
bro singgeihot and rest365days
; \! O2 A1 }7 j7 mhonestly, if there is jesus' R8 v8 J! `9 n3 }* t
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 b- R. |, J6 C4 |5 P. r自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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; {  S4 X8 [: ?2 P8 W, Qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: