jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
5 h% X! ]" {* j9 f仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架) U# U9 b$ v. [4 A" Y( c0 ]$ i
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) b8 Z& n' Z5 V6 o* k+ ]
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: w# H8 O/ l! _0 C
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 u3 P( Q& E3 N. p
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( N  M( Q2 n0 Y3 E' t% f% Y/ F5 c/ s
but why jesus need to do this?$ `3 H3 b7 P" t7 n
punsihment for what???
2 J6 E* \2 r& e  X9 v% C: \for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus: e1 t& ], b  c/ w9 N8 Q3 e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
0 n' q! Q1 G6 J+ X3 Bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u + d- G/ y# Z+ ]
what will u do???
7 ]& x7 T+ y7 |4 A2 V  T8 Q2 Fjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉/ w+ |6 Z+ N  h3 ^# O  T# w7 L
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:3 ^6 K7 n+ c7 M* G! n1 b1 o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 S" p( c, u" j* \/ Q8 J6 r: [" qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
2 s' m& D! q% I, Y' L1 x" n+ ?1 ywhy this happen? just simple........punishment- f& s) i0 K# g. D8 V
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; @2 B6 S9 L# D4 m2 ^" O7 T
but why jesus need to do this?
# ]5 P1 s5 @4 R6 J/ D1 D+ Epunsihment for what???
+ A6 A  I* b9 ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus( }4 o" q3 P8 \' O. \/ z* _
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 Q0 N7 S7 H# j" d6 D) Cbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! `9 f4 |$ Q/ E8 Z2 {/ e! nwhat will u do???' ^% a! v/ X, Z* c
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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8 f1 k/ [) E. _% Q, Vsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 t: H7 G( z6 q* e好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; D4 N* F# k" g7 f6 Z
honestly, if there is jesus
; ]1 r, W6 O+ T$ the really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:. O2 @4 Y* v+ N6 O  I2 h

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life9 Y4 [) ]" m/ f8 m; Z5 M, [8 k+ w% n
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 F+ X, V$ ~+ p  o3 g% j; e
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......: k* `" E- {% Y+ V( ~0 Q7 I
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus' J6 h8 t  V  G8 K3 T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 l" f7 L9 p# \' Fwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:0 Q7 L( q' y- M8 i" v0 `! `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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# I" p6 T% q4 T& Shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: