jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# {& m( }( |: d8 E: H: {3 G- Y/ `
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架( l3 O( f) _+ y! P& I* D
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) v( P. ]& {* V" {# Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 Q) v* R$ I  T; `- w$ f
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case0 m9 O7 ?0 y$ n+ z3 n
why this happen? just simple........punishment8 X3 z) j" q0 G/ m, i
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 1 R, A' N8 n9 o$ B7 d; h# V
but why jesus need to do this?4 k. H2 R  l/ J6 F3 ~
punsihment for what???: V$ W* D; Z7 Z/ G5 D. b
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
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but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u " C6 ~/ u/ p; k
what will u do???- \3 ^0 h+ L% W- y( X/ j! f, _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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  X& l( @, D; [; S8 i咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉7 Z, _" Z7 @' d

- J% G% H9 f9 ?3 X/ S但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排5 X  A7 i$ r) d8 i/ n6 R; {

# [& i0 e" D& _8 q+ @( E咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- w" M7 ~( U" T" {4 A2 u
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 B5 t5 P9 z6 z& s2 y" F4 f5 N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case+ K# `7 M1 W/ a; z, v0 t* ^
why this happen? just simple........punishment
, h" @  ]5 e6 J# }# n8 h2 b+ t2 Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
. z8 z9 ^7 b; p7 L$ `5 G/ [5 w; @0 Y- H7 ?but why jesus need to do this?) f1 U# c( i" u, X- _0 |$ ?4 x
punsihment for what???, N7 a" G& Y* W
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
$ U# |& w5 j, O3 b# rtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 k  [( `1 b5 U! x6 dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . L! L7 q# d! q: Y3 L# O$ Z" r
what will u do???
! k: F" \/ \- Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, / o: [2 ^: ^- a9 {5 `4 s: h8 A6 ]

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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; K5 t, M0 W' W/ C7 m好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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! R0 F) ^8 l! E5 X0 C9 L議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 n6 }) G9 _! x$ |  Bhonestly, if there is jesus; r9 u) `5 W, z$ U7 |4 u& m
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus: Y: j, n: W/ V+ ]; `" X# Z
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
5 A! k! U! Q& R2 zjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
2 o1 J6 F" ~8 z/ Zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 S8 q2 ?+ h3 g3 `. d) a9 hnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
' }- q1 D" R1 j2 Z5 n/ Xbro singgeihot and rest365days5 l; b& Q7 A' u. |% Z& V3 i$ {, g# E
honestly, if there is jesus6 n5 Z% ]7 b/ \0 i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus1 D+ n. H8 M' }. G5 ]1 [. t' x
we can't blow him :cool:

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9 r7 `% t5 ~6 S: p$ zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
4 Z5 \( R2 t* \otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: