jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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7 ?% z' w$ B' U7 mbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ _: ]0 ^) ?/ V* v0 R9 i- c
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case! q. h/ p( i) m3 O  @7 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment) L' G$ S1 j4 T5 n3 B
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 Z- ^' Q  x0 o9 y- L% z, {; obut why jesus need to do this?5 b0 b$ x! g1 j! b1 o& c! j
punsihment for what???5 D6 a9 }$ X. m8 X" v
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- V# \! t$ a9 G' n
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! v! B4 i* L6 u  xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
( ^+ h, e4 S' m6 }what will u do???) \! r  O5 {2 }/ t: O- ~; A4 ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; g6 X( V( V/ g2 d+ R) Y( t  T

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+ W% p- H( s+ K5 n( @; F. ^yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ M! x0 L2 N* @8 X- b* @/ b* M
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:1 _1 v& Y1 Z* I  H* Q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?5 M% p2 K8 Q% j0 q- T. M
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% U9 @7 ?; ^& O1 ~, L8 I/ v2 y# Jwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
8 e' @2 e3 ~" V! Z0 q% kmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 8 Y0 J$ M9 r, l
but why jesus need to do this?
1 \, b" y3 \( p6 v, rpunsihment for what???
, y/ C8 i# `( bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus2 k2 K8 G: c3 J. T0 x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& ^1 I2 \+ ]8 H2 h# sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
$ [  q1 R) D( F; Pwhat will u do???
* v2 I  T+ _, V3 f1 m6 l2 I) xjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:- P5 E, f( Q9 Z" o8 f7 Q7 f
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. U$ g7 n7 D# a. z& y0 Y! hbro, did u know that there is a...

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: _! P" i' R; t2 M8 `2 ~好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 $ k+ r8 c" r0 [

. R! v/ B7 c' `4 Y- t" P議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days8 y% H3 z& g2 i& J
honestly, if there is jesus
$ i# K6 g- n0 a( |he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus( c5 f  m0 \$ d/ l+ l; m
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:& A$ f( {. M0 Q0 P3 x" n
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 D8 C/ u) z& N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
8 Z% ~5 \- \6 b! v9 \5 v* M0 j8 Sso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......' N) j% s# N* M5 S
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
+ k8 x# w- f: F: w8 a- ?# Zbro singgeihot and rest365days
1 b7 ~, b3 A6 }" ~% c1 A  i( j' p4 d2 lhonestly, if there is jesus
5 e4 D- J6 s. r6 B; Z1 @he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus& N1 E5 g% \; J& }! w
we can't blow him :cool:

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( p# `5 e* e9 @4 d# p* n/ ^& L3 ]( ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics5 A% [& a6 R0 v' y) y
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: