jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:6 v2 `8 ~' W% R5 v  [# W( o
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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8 c: Q$ J! O# Q' Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?2 R8 Y  \2 P8 X9 p& ~" F
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
; h  Z% {/ c: O0 m! wwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& F: u# S, q- L' A* b9 qmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
- T3 p8 z" o! p5 u8 ?2 Vbut why jesus need to do this?
1 A) v! l" \9 w4 l' kpunsihment for what???
! J$ p( {' D* J/ n6 _, J: rfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus$ f1 x2 Z' H! n+ x9 u- ?, N! U/ S
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ @7 M: K/ [. y  H% l- ]) Y, Ybut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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4 k, Q% q5 n; w& M7 C& @咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 n6 O- c* T# W. s% w
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:& T# @6 P; o3 J
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
7 W/ y# ~6 J& b: ?0 v) H* O( o. ccomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( j' q* r  R4 @1 s7 ]0 s( h& k0 hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment, I1 M: L- ~- g9 @0 q  G
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things : o1 M1 G; H6 c& T! R: x
but why jesus need to do this?
/ t# e. R4 \- r4 X% \3 _% Mpunsihment for what???
! C- [9 i1 O- L* J3 c* yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
0 J4 n; k  b& p9 C6 ytry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 y' }$ U7 n4 j: R% C" W
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ D2 F" j' S. d. Q% T8 A. wwhat will u do???
+ H1 p2 a1 A. y0 f' D0 Q- Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ' s+ v9 }0 S) o& b/ d4 e

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 [% f& o2 K. c/ S7 `+ I  H) a" a7 Sbro, did u know that there is a...

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. n9 a2 S+ Y8 E& O$ X) n1 [4 c好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 F, b, X. i; D3 o2 N0 C" a. k議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 `5 a- M% T: Z: r# Ehonestly, if there is jesus8 q) X6 e2 B1 D# |* r
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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) a, Z3 |5 `& t" g+ syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' I. d8 t$ J& U# H7 I7 Z6 kjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' a' |; `1 E1 e7 V
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......* I+ P6 u0 a% [1 c* x# b' M& ?
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ `, t/ o3 s/ |5 q" Y( Q
bro singgeihot and rest365days
2 q6 C0 u7 ]$ P$ g, y/ `/ b6 R6 x8 w. vhonestly, if there is jesus. r( ]+ ?& C! @! E$ M# M/ v
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
6 J" k5 R& n: \1 Lwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
2 r: x* }' a/ m5 yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 {+ c) R: l8 y% J5 }自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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  f5 p+ E# l8 E. ]( A) Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: