jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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3 O2 {) S  q5 N* G1 Xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# E: p; K, k) Z2 S! T: d! U& g0 lcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
1 O  P/ Q! q. \* c) Z3 K& `( [why this happen? just simple........punishment
. e+ v, o$ O3 p- Q5 Lmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
& d& R% i4 d5 K( F3 `) j4 Nbut why jesus need to do this?
0 H, W4 b2 C/ I  \punsihment for what???
- s; l1 _; o9 s% p3 e8 v% V$ Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 }; w* Y5 W9 H3 Ttry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
" {" K3 L  y1 w- {; w) Sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* j4 e9 [  f7 N8 p% k: fwhat will u do???3 w5 r2 M  B( |
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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# `! Q0 C0 Q4 Q; z. ?/ C* C咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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' P& t% _) E1 `- A9 u/ U但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" o! M( a2 w% a
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
, X( _0 b: ~% p0 b5 T2 t# Nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?3 e8 E4 ^( o7 Y* K' }  {8 x
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case9 X9 Z# o% X; h7 g
why this happen? just simple........punishment
4 e: n8 V& n8 Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , I' c+ K$ Q3 C) [2 D" T) ~
but why jesus need to do this?
% p, u. C4 R$ z  x8 m9 A& Dpunsihment for what???$ r: \: a- T1 D, N. a
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
1 R4 U* l! X' F0 L( K! T' Jtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 N+ G: F7 q9 rbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
: m+ L6 w. G1 C: \( Jwhat will u do???" t# h; _& G$ }( v
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, # f  m7 a! N% ?6 m

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# b3 z  B' H' Z9 Q/ O

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+ Q- v% A4 x9 K$ x! V1 }9 fbro, did u know that there is a...

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3 s1 T( a0 j0 d好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 O' [. n+ M8 T; i. |3 `. T2 h1 qhonestly, if there is jesus" x+ Z# ^8 a3 \: u3 v4 N, B  q/ ]7 j$ I, |0 o
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ y, o( o* G  @
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
' k8 t8 Q/ F5 ?- w3 ?7 Ujust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! w9 K9 a% ~! l+ ~2 x) Rso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......; {% b$ O" }4 P7 r1 W6 B
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
, Q: L' A, L4 g$ |; j( zbro singgeihot and rest365days' z  T7 z6 g$ a  T& z8 b; e; `/ T
honestly, if there is jesus
$ T+ r$ R+ e  s( }' ^he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus3 O' m% v6 G. E- H6 l3 b
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics' \2 H7 J% c4 x2 h, Y7 l7 H1 [
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" h$ j2 p3 q/ S( v/ {+ X8 F
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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2 G% h1 M% N" K! `# z( s' E3 ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: