jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
+ N1 M( }$ T7 u$ I+ ^+ m# M( t$ O仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* v& g5 X/ v: c" v/ w/ bcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" P* `2 A( K" ]7 T4 j
why this happen? just simple........punishment
( i9 P+ q( }+ r; x1 ^many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things - s" X! U# f& E3 j
but why jesus need to do this?
0 ?( v# F& ~1 |; i6 s1 j, ?punsihment for what???
- D4 B! \( @+ B, b/ Ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
# x, n$ ~/ g/ j8 E6 ?3 ?try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ M7 M0 s/ P: M  i% w: Pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 _7 u$ J$ n$ x. k' ]* q0 E4 z3 C
what will u do???
) d% |9 Q5 y; K3 \/ u' {just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:* |0 B: X; I  z* f5 u) E
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! O; E* x; K3 lyes, what did u think is what i...

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* W/ u7 d- [/ T2 `* ]咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉$ I7 e5 i0 h7 ?. o5 x$ C' B

8 |9 {2 H7 N9 k! k& k, b但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排1 d$ H. q1 r: Z( Q; G9 l

& T' P; `" R& y( a- H咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 }7 t& y0 x& E- C0 a
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- o# s3 n! y; h9 V/ }( @comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* d! `' }6 V! r, G+ D. G8 swhy this happen? just simple........punishment6 {+ K# |' l, |
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
1 @1 Y" j- J& s& r2 f" p% Lbut why jesus need to do this?' w4 l9 @8 z9 |: y3 V
punsihment for what???
3 i+ N* R/ b7 bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ Z7 b9 Y8 Q4 M+ j4 \* F# q
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ m  W2 p5 w% {" H
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u : E3 |( P0 ^+ o
what will u do???! B4 b3 H; ~  `, _7 K
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: c. ~" f, F4 B+ C+ q3 ?  j
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, v% `1 O3 M# K9 m, N- y" xbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 % i/ H% O. M. ]* b0 E1 ^; J
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ t  }; _) J9 u4 o- G2 `honestly, if there is jesus- W2 F3 x9 d5 Y9 L8 k4 C  M- [
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ V% X' Y/ [  C: T3 C2 zwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:0 j3 p# Z/ z: G7 G

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& w' r7 m6 r5 E5 C( [! D好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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9 r6 m2 m5 o, ~* E5 {% z8 j, |5 Z4 N7 s2 cyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
+ g) F* B! M- n" m4 w5 ajust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it' }+ _' }$ n/ Q
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys....... h( k- V% }8 s
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
! T' d, X3 [$ D" rbro singgeihot and rest365days
8 n; p; @1 S' ~! q/ D" i* D! Zhonestly, if there is jesus
+ @8 G6 j1 _$ h$ ]7 ^+ yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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6 R0 E1 z' L2 O+ Qunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics" L  j7 h+ i5 ]- A
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:  f8 G0 L; j$ f* ]$ H; l9 j
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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3 n5 l! n/ K+ W: d, qhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: