jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) a+ i. n) Q1 D  Q5 \comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 I7 V( ~/ r& D$ lwhy this happen? just simple........punishment8 o' Y6 x9 {. A' ^, M, f6 {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 e$ L$ n( E9 R' N/ ~1 R; ?) h# f: Mbut why jesus need to do this?4 r. h# U5 L* F, i3 u
punsihment for what???
3 \! g8 k; _! H7 Y6 ~% q9 b/ Nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! o% c6 u. h9 E! ]1 }$ K/ i
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
3 R9 r: G* F  }* O/ Xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉, V0 V+ F0 f! Y/ L6 l* z
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排6 p1 U9 h1 Q% K  G7 t- f
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:4 D. C* y% u; b$ W
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?4 R, R. y- L3 G; m9 |
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case/ c' y3 D" g: k6 X
why this happen? just simple........punishment2 _3 }7 t5 Q* I4 x
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ! q; J1 A$ q7 X. c7 {4 m  m
but why jesus need to do this?
* |& [9 c0 w- [: @4 q, M- n, |" S; ?: lpunsihment for what???, B/ V  q7 z; {. V+ u7 X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 i2 [- l7 [$ x2 ^$ d7 J5 D
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers; R8 [+ F# q: H: H) w& Y$ A2 d
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
4 d# d- w! U# \1 U' C' Jwhat will u do???
, s! A# `" H( a" \" \3 F+ Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:/ a+ E$ i! R1 x1 n/ S2 V% G

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) s4 C, Z  R1 g! \honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:  k( l  n, F5 ]+ R& H
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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1 [! U7 E) H' b1 g# {+ ~' Xyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 ^. F$ m' ~1 _7 H: B) }& Y* ]4 u4 z# mjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it6 C" ^7 ]! J% o0 D1 j7 ?) x
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
; u( y3 K, S+ K( [: U3 k0 b5 wnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:' @( @1 Z' r/ [! R3 ?, N. ?
bro singgeihot and rest365days, \/ Q; }, d# i/ U- [9 @
honestly, if there is jesus" g* H/ t" I7 _# N& q
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus7 m3 O$ L7 |$ O' X
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
4 M1 v/ p# ~$ f7 ?otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" [3 o' q! q! g$ k
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: