jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 U3 u/ U1 ^. ~1 K$ O6 {comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case; ]; `  y( C, g
why this happen? just simple........punishment( {6 c1 w, v9 b
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * |3 B$ F3 ^5 v$ ~  p6 S
but why jesus need to do this?
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  Q! ^& [. r+ Ofor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus9 h% S' r# W( ]7 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 F* R3 r1 }0 g. X! t
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u - M$ t! f! }$ ]6 s! V
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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1 Q/ ?! i1 g9 u2 R$ }1 }咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉0 \/ |+ o$ _+ v" F, r# p  w

  R2 ?! P- |3 B: L, R0 k$ ]但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: ]: f! k1 W5 C; l0 \" I* _3 g/ o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" B6 I, e8 s: ^2 C
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 l/ P" @& @# u# U. Q0 L
why this happen? just simple........punishment6 o1 x: }6 `8 E' s/ J/ L
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) t6 |  }5 }1 w1 M4 Z
but why jesus need to do this?
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers! R  y7 k# ?  b1 Q" l4 T. ]5 l1 s
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ' s7 C7 }# J" J7 x
what will u do???
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:: S0 y  q0 w9 h5 C/ k& O9 {( n
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; U; U1 O; }/ s' Z- e7 F, n/ \bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 Y- [: `) i" N# H& S" B好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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2 e6 y$ m4 }1 s3 }, X, x9 l議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
8 B4 i4 s' e/ chonestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:7 O# q( j& E# Z2 ]4 e% K
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; o3 J; x3 V8 z2 n4 N$ G% R8 A2 ?好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it- g& w+ q0 t6 o: Z; x5 ], o
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ _/ m  E4 v. t- R) }
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:3 R9 V7 C' e/ n* @# e
bro singgeihot and rest365days( L; H9 [0 O* i4 x. p0 |2 A& B0 x5 {
honestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
6 G  `$ a" k7 @otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:8 L* H6 S- u  U( ~# D# N3 ?
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: