jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:/ n4 c  X; D! @# t% S
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架! E) H( r( L. e+ c
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
  H: w. \4 b  a2 d: {6 ucomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case- p# t4 {$ ?% Y! U% z" M
why this happen? just simple........punishment
- ]! J- [# m: V: @. o: J2 Cmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & k8 y: Z! A  N) p3 _! ?) f
but why jesus need to do this?7 m* \5 z1 K0 w1 G: Z
punsihment for what???1 }4 H0 P4 ~1 Z9 O
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; G( m- W" L/ e1 Z0 A; [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
& d9 n5 x6 v4 P5 a  _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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8 Y% @4 s' P* P# n  b咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
: h# U. p1 I" ybro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?* }$ w$ S7 _: D# F& B
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. D' h  v. t. \- \why this happen? just simple........punishment" x( A3 g' z, |7 b( l" W- l: Q
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things $ |( I% V! V& J3 c8 T. O
but why jesus need to do this?- T% Y% o7 Q( e
punsihment for what???
$ F4 a6 C/ x$ S2 Y- `! efor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
% [' v3 M) @, o5 b# wtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
/ e# i2 D; ^1 z- o+ w8 e: a; @' t- sbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u * z9 t7 D0 k% R6 `' {! r3 y
what will u do???# V" |7 b3 u! S& O9 y4 I  M
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:% k( l7 |6 y# W& G- K. w6 ?
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7 s5 O3 I% |2 c8 p8 q# sbro, did u know that there is a...

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7 v+ P% i* ]& b3 K好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 , g3 T5 T# s! y# [

% w* {/ L; a* P) W1 C, {$ ]8 C議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( G" \7 i% u/ V6 b. g
honestly, if there is jesus: `# }, n3 O1 n# G
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
& j6 x( s$ @" O- d  {: \we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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3 N3 b3 M# Y' }0 Zyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 ~) a8 X$ H* L( c: C3 x
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 H/ f/ {) C4 F: zso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 H! ]; y3 F4 g
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 K0 E: ?9 T- _2 b2 }
bro singgeihot and rest365days
- [$ `" W$ h6 a! Ghonestly, if there is jesus5 _1 ?  D; B  Q) ]+ q( K' k
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
0 w; t9 o1 b0 p0 L8 n. Ewe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:- \9 K  R/ t0 A9 z; R  X
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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1 ~% r/ W  n) i$ Fhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: