jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
* ^. S/ b! p1 C6 Q& t* l# B& c仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架* n8 F) _% F+ I) a0 y# d$ a, J! b
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?8 e0 W$ [- k" {/ V1 w" P6 _
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
$ n! Q4 }- c2 H2 r2 u! M3 V3 ]why this happen? just simple........punishment
2 J+ X4 d) d/ ymany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things , a' w, T# o% B" Y& X1 N; f* ~+ B
but why jesus need to do this?7 x" r. J" G0 _- j9 x
punsihment for what???
3 m6 R. V* T6 f* j  z) S4 @  |4 B+ wfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
5 K# Y( K0 g. l7 k2 G8 {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers5 l1 l& d4 F% F% ^: h; o7 N/ e
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 0 \+ e! Q. V: t! K& S) k2 _. w
what will u do???+ w4 s0 A& z, H$ N) y* W
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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; h2 J4 _) y# {) q* S3 Cyes, what did u think is what i...

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7 O4 C% t% \7 s# f  x0 q" Q咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( T5 x& K1 h0 j+ H0 t; N但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 P: H5 O4 T, bbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?0 E  q5 z! {# d  d9 h4 |; V8 g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case1 I1 t, S' ~3 E8 N- Z5 _0 n) U+ s
why this happen? just simple........punishment7 L) h1 u  m; v2 _% l9 P. v7 ?& {
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 ^  z5 t9 C5 `2 l* Y) Pbut why jesus need to do this?
$ M( m) W9 h8 ?. ppunsihment for what???% n3 `+ N( b! g0 _$ N4 S3 x
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
* W( E% G% r" i( htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( i$ n- J8 V# H  C% G/ U/ d" e# ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
* |5 S- i5 O9 q2 Dwhat will u do???) r0 N9 i9 r. K$ N# A; ^
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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/ ~( c6 Y5 p& U3 ~) ^7 tsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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9 n- J& n( v# _. a; A5 |好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ) U3 v6 s4 P, |" ?# m" f+ U

. P. D, I& K! \5 o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
& C1 S9 D0 O4 F+ @) bhonestly, if there is jesus  ]! F. }$ p/ u. o- Y1 T
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' Z5 f4 P1 }) d5 T5 C- x& P
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:; X# W- {" c" Z1 S4 F/ b* e. v
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
# R5 M5 H. n! p& o  ojust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
) p6 K( S' n. Z5 [7 G6 B) Eso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
! T% @6 V; y  x7 P# u0 g* @7 Unow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
) D/ W1 c, z/ h8 wbro singgeihot and rest365days
# B% v0 M5 ~1 j0 d! F& A% mhonestly, if there is jesus
- e0 p% r% ~4 i) hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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7 |* R, X3 p3 T: cunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics! f$ P0 R' K9 A" F
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
0 ~' `/ d0 ?6 }6 u自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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5 C1 I! y: R/ @; ^9 T4 N+ Shaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: