jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 L9 Y2 o- C" q. ~$ X+ b
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架; \& w: K' a4 x7 h& r8 G+ K  j( B% ^* o
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
0 M/ P, g5 x& O3 J0 e( h/ zcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ P$ w# f( u. O' }2 F0 P5 K' F7 o
why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ t4 k  {' [5 f1 ]' Vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 5 {2 u& T5 o9 Y! b. X5 H- x
but why jesus need to do this?
( c8 t4 h. a2 |- ]  Y4 m" |punsihment for what???9 Z, z: J5 V) N' M1 \6 ^
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus5 z# X" ^$ c: o: v/ g# m) Z" p
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
$ R, o1 x* {. a  \1 G4 Z1 z) Mbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
' F; a. g8 j. G# @' R& uwhat will u do???
* I; p# ^8 }5 M7 A- q1 |4 E9 bjust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉% q. u' L: J  h! B; b8 O2 x7 o
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排4 _  |4 o7 F! n- j+ X

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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# T* [$ }; A6 V' S! Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ a+ ]3 O- i# Z7 C+ D6 M' a
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( B2 ^  v: y' c8 X# `% Cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment! X. W8 A6 E9 ^. b6 S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things # h6 r! L5 |$ Q8 E; k6 ~, p+ z& a+ z
but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus/ Z% L0 `% ?. S4 g. W2 F
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 ?) O8 U8 P  I! }% d# ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
! c, {, p* \, m% t& Qwhat will u do???3 F3 i/ P5 V% I  P5 V( d/ C
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 6 d6 M% z4 F7 I  a% s2 J
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 N! n# e9 _* w9 E7 N" E$ N7 ihonestly, if there is jesus! u. }3 G, V  U9 o8 w' z* f1 D, R
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ v4 p: N& i% J6 Q+ U$ ewe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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/ M: ~: @4 D& c% x+ w" v. t6 O. Ayes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
, U$ L6 w4 g4 X  T/ C, \/ |' Y7 P! Bjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
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now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
5 y, C! m; p& F% cbro singgeihot and rest365days5 G' [% W$ c7 m/ u& d  i
honestly, if there is jesus
: M/ a* ^% _5 ~( X8 w2 L- Che really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
. Q6 y; ~' l1 @5 k) o6 C4 Mwe can't blow him :cool:

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& ?3 g7 G# o5 }understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:2 B* O& r- j; K: j8 @2 h4 e
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: