jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:0 t2 }3 V& N2 Z. k/ b; W
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架. p# ]0 N* Y! m7 p; B
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
" v; Z% ^; a% P# t( Scomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
. z8 J5 j. z! ]6 [! Z: xwhy this happen? just simple........punishment" ]1 t( ^8 ^- T1 u% ^/ o* E
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
6 A' I" W6 y9 L) Cbut why jesus need to do this?
" a& Q% ^& T6 r- P: P7 Lpunsihment for what???
% F. \) `+ U% r9 F7 Y: R& q' ufor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
9 g. R) k- A3 k8 Ztry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers# g3 ~' K6 u1 J% P  k
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u / v. {0 [( o4 [7 ?9 v% ]& l  T& S
what will u do???8 _& ~: v+ ]7 V
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉) B0 h+ w. f+ j4 v( K. N

: g2 y" D/ N% Z但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排: K8 p/ A) Y- @- Q# n

% k6 L# \8 ~4 Z咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:) g4 f! Z- `5 l3 b) ?, J1 Z
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* f  j$ Z8 J* }/ Y; A' ]$ hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
4 K3 A% c; B$ ^5 b0 ~. ]* w9 kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
# V8 C7 Z2 h0 d" Y6 x. X# W5 nmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 6 f2 _6 B. e3 w0 x" o& t" y
but why jesus need to do this?
8 c  \5 P2 x2 O* g, Y% Z( Hpunsihment for what???
3 A# G: g6 z, b+ b, p, zfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
& h3 W0 }$ H1 V- K- T. o7 Ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! a$ o8 Q" @1 W' t7 _but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
1 B; X- ^$ r# ~: b/ Jwhat will u do???: l5 N2 z* c) c! T4 j: x+ E6 m
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, ; \8 }- ?. O: N. X3 h! I

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( L- V4 h2 x% b* D% f, }6 T- esorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ V1 B. j8 ]5 x2 w
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 ' W) c5 n5 h* f7 z% k& F
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus+ b4 K+ l! T% ~% x4 B! l
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:5 b) _! Y( b+ u. g
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$ C3 w2 x' `( }3 n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 Z: E8 ^( b6 b. H! n+ `
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it3 [, \/ w5 |  C$ {
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:1 F: v3 B- m5 c) e: {3 {9 `' F
bro singgeihot and rest365days' z, S, K! W% U8 g7 o* B( {
honestly, if there is jesus
) I+ w& I' t( w/ V8 ?he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ y7 D% i; O! h) f7 ]& Dwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:; m0 Q- b/ Z) Q) ^3 j4 L% y! u
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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* I- h8 c% R' |+ g. |. [4 O* J) ghaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: