jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
' x# @4 k7 y, I. P8 B仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架7 W8 E% p) K: @& K( v; F
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
# t, ~; |' A( J8 C# p% A, acomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ t0 E* Y* {9 F' t" L9 _why this happen? just simple........punishment
$ Z3 V( S( M5 Gmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
( ?, u: Z. |+ m& e, qbut why jesus need to do this?
4 |/ A: H9 P) ~" I& Qpunsihment for what???+ g2 i: `" \+ p- M5 s5 U+ s; u
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 F5 G8 s- R  {# v' E
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers, _4 O3 R$ ]3 N4 @: P3 ?0 s, u1 i
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u # n* O, k4 H, D6 w' f# `7 z: t
what will u do???
! w; n* |' g; B8 H# b; Y& m6 Ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:; S) u4 K! \; z- O, U: P
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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; z; p' c, M/ p' y* p  l但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
) s* S. U" x5 H- w. I$ ubro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
& s+ @0 l* `; Z+ ?9 ]. k1 pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
( D' V& ^3 P' v5 [4 u/ awhy this happen? just simple........punishment
* [, b6 a9 D: U9 c2 r: P( vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
) O) _6 W8 d. C# |4 W* ubut why jesus need to do this?9 S' ~: [" r$ C( K  `
punsihment for what???
% k: |7 _7 }$ q; w0 G$ ?8 f+ ifor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ g5 D4 A# m+ o5 P. |+ J" M, o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
! U; B( b: v3 `8 jbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 a/ ^9 F) b) X3 k
what will u do???
* w* e; Y, }' a) ejust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, - n: Z/ z$ W# q% S

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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* E% b. K8 T$ H& d; ^好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) X. U' V) Q/ z9 Q" khonestly, if there is jesus
, K# }, j# Y* F( d; P* jhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
2 |" g! w; t* o- awe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:9 t0 X, [' D$ I5 G. G. W% ^
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) ]0 J& s8 j9 ~9 E$ Syes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life5 C" W1 H  K% f/ z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it7 E/ y5 v+ P/ f7 L3 V$ b- L. ]2 f
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......8 }0 k6 N3 N9 t! h7 Q! P
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:: n. ^" k' G; @, G( G
bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 b0 m6 V( V' P* |% M. s& D6 a3 qhonestly, if there is jesus' h% p" O0 R( g) T9 b) Z: B
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus, C9 }9 p4 [6 d' N( L
we can't blow him :cool:

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3 }  r! A" b/ g1 H- ~understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
' u5 p  B( `/ g3 @8 rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ p& e  a- b4 Q+ M: _8 [; s
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: