jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:" N5 r: q* X4 Z, w) u
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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7 w9 r3 B+ D% \- z7 w5 x- wbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
2 J2 w/ D3 @" y, S2 X' |comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case$ W3 s: S+ `3 Q! u9 K$ a  U
why this happen? just simple........punishment
- q4 o+ U& g. f! p! Omany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
  i& K& U* w6 r: R- N2 ^. tbut why jesus need to do this?
  q/ E: ^9 m9 F/ G4 k% H# h) ?punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
+ o! H9 N% E* P$ S" A+ ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u ! c% h0 M, N+ h* k# c8 ~  c
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排) g  L+ G# s( r- F- g* y8 x
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
9 q2 x8 X/ o1 u2 nbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?# J1 r6 k/ i" {7 r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: w7 V5 N& c" z3 J# k
why this happen? just simple........punishment
& F: v: Z/ s; @% U" Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 7 W" A$ \$ w: l; f# Y* _$ @4 [
but why jesus need to do this?
  }& f7 U1 g" d( `3 b: B6 ]punsihment for what???
; }2 k0 q8 X6 V5 R% z# jfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; p# U% s0 j- R4 |9 ]& e
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
2 ^6 z+ e8 c! s0 pbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u $ ~1 x2 f) T. F% {) j: F
what will u do???/ i. P0 a$ l; f/ T) y1 R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:# U1 f5 T+ _6 q' F# L0 x$ e
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 # R! R! O2 H2 G2 b

8 t9 k/ z7 h- d' H+ b議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days" r# E  n% X) F9 r% S& X' ?& I. B
honestly, if there is jesus* B# ~/ w" x, {: e7 Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
! M8 S# B, y# i9 h. d# hwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ g7 k) s; y" X) q4 |just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 K" x+ C5 Z7 Q: P3 S9 f1 D( I/ \so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
6 j: U! D( d0 }5 q0 I) Enow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- C% N9 Q: ~: K. s0 R" N
bro singgeihot and rest365days8 o/ f' ?* u8 s% R. u5 H. U- I
honestly, if there is jesus
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we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
! l  p( P1 b/ d* `( N5 Gotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: