jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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! o1 @) U# u. }# W' }bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
) q/ o! z" j1 W. pcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
3 O# K  l& B! N) y, ~: kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment3 B  z/ M% c3 p' v( x; M9 o) H
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
: ?' w; }! R* X" f* pbut why jesus need to do this?
2 l* p( @9 L' z+ ?! |punsihment for what???
: |! b" S  M5 @' I) h$ p. [for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
6 w, q, F3 b6 ]' btry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
. |: S5 Z" V+ `' F7 @8 _3 |but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
, K" k' z! |! w8 p" s) a4 \what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:0 I3 b$ h2 w" ?5 Q, I

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9 r" U& X' z( W! g( A# E) Fyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# [8 m7 ~8 g4 `  h+ l1 o
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:7 b. r1 n5 e8 F! A& a' {' N
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?: o  p. H& }2 N2 s" U% y7 [
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ o7 ]& Q  [& _; Kwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 Q5 u9 _6 d8 F4 J0 }/ @many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
% q$ g4 M, X$ ]; Ibut why jesus need to do this?
9 A! v: v6 b7 M9 Ipunsihment for what???/ o+ p; B( s7 r! E
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus3 b# E. H) t; R9 ~( g* e& x
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 A4 o4 J5 T0 x, r9 ?but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 3 W: D9 b( n& F8 L
what will u do???" t  a( ^$ l* c% L' q
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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+ j& x2 f# _- f  \好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 . C- D4 `( ?$ I. W; R/ z

& @% P/ A6 q8 v( g+ B議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
) f2 w- |& N7 ehonestly, if there is jesus
! r/ b# G& r+ [  C. t  h$ phe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
$ r  V( n7 n2 S9 J7 n  ^we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:' `; H$ t9 p0 Q; h2 z6 Q  y  Y  H* p
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life4 \9 s3 h/ |1 q. N5 J6 O3 Z
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it: f; U  Q, |3 E2 \5 ~* l
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 `$ i7 }6 t, L; b/ Xnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  s' m: S! ]7 K
bro singgeihot and rest365days
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he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus8 \; g$ ^* X1 G! [* q6 r0 B- f
we can't blow him :cool:

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! @/ o( O8 W! g$ Zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:4 N- g3 W& k9 r. c6 `5 p. B" l
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: