jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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3 t, K  G* `7 C  }, W( J- O/ o# Ibro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
* x. g! Q" |  I: u. T" kcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# \" X5 E6 F. z
why this happen? just simple........punishment  T. V" H4 y" h' c% x3 K
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- z: F  P' L. _7 |8 r, Ebut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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: G) E* c+ x6 X) H& m" `3 djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
# {) X7 f% s8 C0 Obro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
/ j" z+ h. W4 e7 N' Rcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
* X$ ]  x% c" k9 \: `8 hwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
0 E9 `# {2 y: U$ g# i+ Amany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; u# `5 G5 F: A5 C1 m; J  xbut why jesus need to do this?
% _9 E) v' s4 e! Lpunsihment for what???
$ n7 F& P5 W  G+ b, M5 }for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
: A$ F! v5 E+ Y! k) ftry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers/ H5 O% A9 l, T" ^! Z# D7 N
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 ^. t, [4 p% M/ qwhat will u do???
9 R/ M/ x1 e* N  X) [just sharing my view, not arguing yr points, , E" \0 X5 D# J. }! R! }

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- M+ p8 r: X4 ^2 B/ Rsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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0 H9 m8 |+ o. J) [! wbro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 : U" J7 d9 v- b1 ^' G1 g0 d6 U

  `2 e# f6 s# b4 C; |$ D% K8 o議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days2 L2 C: I4 u; j3 j4 t2 F* v7 |
honestly, if there is jesus
8 I; h5 i) S& u; F: V. y" {! V* ]he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:2 r/ m- X! N! ?7 `* r
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
2 b6 y# |" ]; njust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it* y  h9 j* C2 O" F7 A* u
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......3 d" O+ e" ]# D3 _
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:+ h  ?" n% C% X- f: q! ~. {
bro singgeihot and rest365days
9 y5 t  f" ^; w3 B- ~, ihonestly, if there is jesus
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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
# i7 H4 L' X! \# u. S- K自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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% q: F+ ^9 |% K) R5 ?haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: