jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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& f0 i% d7 M: K4 I7 A6 G3 Kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?+ F8 j: _( |6 q" r
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case" P, \* w+ Z8 J* i3 ~4 b0 g
why this happen? just simple........punishment3 H0 @0 Z/ ]1 s* Y; v' w" z6 \5 ~
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
4 o0 p6 M% U) \but why jesus need to do this?0 p9 v  S; d; j: l7 a7 d4 `
punsihment for what???, H* D$ F) S# G9 i$ Q" P1 X
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
; i: a1 c3 H6 d+ g; v) D9 I& x" ^/ Htry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:6 Q* I' r+ |% d2 r
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! R. x) W! f) b" o: syes, what did u think is what i...

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. o' ~+ h4 a! K咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排" P% q0 n) g! g- E5 ]8 `
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
7 ?  l& z, i5 a3 t* Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- p) n% M3 I/ n
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
, p$ u0 I& j* t! ^1 cwhy this happen? just simple........punishment. w: Y9 n6 C" ?# L8 o6 i  d
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
3 w; o: S7 m8 ?2 J& wbut why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus0 I/ z4 t* |- Q3 b
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
7 J+ D$ T/ S2 X0 Wbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
" Q$ `) G1 d; D! v& i# Rwhat will u do???
% y" u6 w( [  f5 w, ljust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
! f' a. X- `6 t# y8 Z- Z+ Phonestly, if there is jesus
# G+ ~& b& b' v4 \" [  }0 Fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus* U! Z7 U9 {0 O7 q7 J( |. i7 D! R$ c
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:: H8 y+ M; L0 T. O6 j. E* d5 ]
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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0 P' v  J% l; j5 ^, Wyes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life; }- q7 ]/ D" ]9 h  i6 ]
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it( u; u+ L! a4 @5 ~9 `
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
4 A% K7 F% }$ k9 ?6 ^now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 P3 c# K) K3 ]' I$ H1 d3 e9 U- Nbro singgeihot and rest365days0 t5 ]) y) H4 p2 q( D
honestly, if there is jesus! B2 {: v4 N) i
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
3 d% V6 c: g' R# |we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
% ^" D" Z( Y$ yotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: