jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 n( I! Z0 G+ k# i- tcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& Z/ k0 ]6 m9 {* U$ uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
& v9 p& F: H7 ^0 j* ~6 e- r- Wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 4 G' L( }, j8 G8 r5 Y. q
but why jesus need to do this?% {+ N4 s0 {; O1 J
punsihment for what???
- j- O7 O( s1 E6 O9 U& Bfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 o$ d& g. E8 B
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( Z" E, i4 Q( P( W8 e8 w5 S
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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" Q. I/ k  H: X+ Ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. Z4 J; H! L0 u0 |' o
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?" y4 U5 d! M$ M% s: I
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ x% N9 [2 D  V' iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment6 R6 O7 D3 C$ y! d  T
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
5 N, F) X' i; l( j( g  L% ^but why jesus need to do this?) U# H& t+ n( f2 l
punsihment for what???
8 R/ I, J; _$ h; p; R, s4 D* z3 Y% Yfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus7 U, X1 ]; s' o$ W( @. |: p
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers2 {- W% U7 ]3 s# S  `% v6 J  F. g
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 x' U) T: H* w5 t4 V. U
what will u do???
& M. l# ?( P1 j% Ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points, % K  a7 `7 m  H, O6 `

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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" }" X, y& a9 d# w

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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1 |; w  h8 r  W$ t好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days( E8 ^6 B  M6 w0 t$ x. X' K3 `2 R
honestly, if there is jesus2 s' d) d4 |; Q6 |( Q* q! O
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:1 Y! g! S3 V' `* ?$ C! ?) x# O
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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life6 B7 a4 b9 W( Y0 R: |7 n. t1 I4 Q
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
! }& U  `8 Y; Fso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......4 O5 s: F% L! f+ S& f, k
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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honestly, if there is jesus
2 ]) F% T( \2 }, Q9 ?3 K" ehe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
( z, }2 p7 L+ {7 W1 vwe can't blow him :cool:

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6 s* _2 J& S5 t" Zunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
  k8 c* W! O$ w/ X! h- d* Y8 y! hotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
. z5 W) U! l8 R# g* ]自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: