jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:* q  g3 r  q7 a) f" @" |# N
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
$ x0 M& T/ H; z7 D; [- qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
" }3 ]% R2 n2 Q+ V6 Bwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
% g7 Y' W& j6 a: r8 {! f+ o$ Imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things & G2 Z$ U% U8 n# j
but why jesus need to do this?
8 \. v5 B0 T6 n% fpunsihment for what???
- X3 L0 H: V3 ^2 ]- G! Qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus' V% `% i1 |3 Z9 w, ]( O
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' A, ^. l. k+ O( Q0 u
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 7 k: Z0 L& m! l% G3 _" d$ L. Z" I
what will u do???
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singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:# y! ?4 |8 D7 b3 P

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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9 ^% ^& K% ?; E& V+ Y7 M! I* n  B' f咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉* Y& c& b; i, x  P
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排# z- \3 w- _8 J& c2 b; B/ |6 ~
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
. I( M; b+ O& e# i% T' R3 f! V% Lbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
3 I: U2 c) i- Hcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
7 Q, e! A: N2 r+ t$ G# Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment: T: H4 C1 r# T1 X
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things * h. ?1 ?, _9 w3 L6 q* e- f
but why jesus need to do this?
. }" i+ ^5 R0 n* a+ V/ Fpunsihment for what???
  q5 ~' k$ {5 Q5 Y! l9 }for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' A( a( s! O4 \  B: Mtry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers7 a- G/ e6 I; r' x
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
7 N' R3 P' N5 Jwhat will u do???) E6 @) I, ?2 }1 C) [( R
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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2 @1 ^. ]9 o  G9 D0 osorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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8 Y- o# }1 n9 u4 F  z2 Bbro, did u know that there is a...

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. M0 t' |. i- Z) @& l好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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% G: G" D# b/ d+ X! G議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days3 U' d! K- _: A9 ^7 ~
honestly, if there is jesus
: \0 ~) x$ Y2 i: z5 fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. {' J5 o+ ?% D
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life2 o7 o3 K2 O6 j& {6 H& [1 g: Z/ N
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it+ w5 ]: _) r: ^, E
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
1 ^- D' R, @. J4 mnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
# C. R7 g9 D- |; e1 Zbro singgeihot and rest365days
  l5 u" ~. @5 t- `honestly, if there is jesus
% H5 i* g* Q3 J( A' G2 yhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
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: ?( M" [0 Q- r3 `. G7 u$ ounderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
3 o7 e9 @+ ], `7 H# c. p& E% S2 Rotherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
9 U1 n( k* m$ x自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: