jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:& c! w( l$ \' {8 J0 s- z7 c4 g+ s
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架0 ~3 p/ d! Y3 f. i
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?, X5 L% D5 L: H* e* L
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case( |' N$ Y9 u2 N" F& j+ X! r
why this happen? just simple........punishment: `2 t0 h! t4 l- u) u& @
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
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punsihment for what???
. n# d6 f- t3 o0 A1 y& b, ]% pfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
4 ~& b# l3 ~% _& v1 {try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
9 v, l. N2 p2 \/ [  P# Ibut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
  N% U$ e7 N+ Q! C) gwhat will u do???! Q) m' m; c' C0 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 b$ b+ ?0 G1 e6 v5 d' T9 B+ q) cyes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排+ q- b* [: }4 ^
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:' m8 X  s* J8 S$ d0 u, x0 Q" i
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?- k& K; V, Y8 L, E
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
& M& r/ |& e) g7 Nwhy this happen? just simple........punishment/ t. y. P- j! R/ c3 U
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; ]' d7 x9 T1 \: r1 y7 G- k/ ?but why jesus need to do this?
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for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
' _4 i+ k) ?3 o1 [* etry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
* u. R+ B  t( j7 c1 [8 {but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
6 [1 l2 w9 l+ S2 U5 l  ?7 u- {what will u do???2 ^; V; D9 _, X7 Q8 S% `
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" }% G) j2 j. z0 Y5 V3 m

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bro, did u know that there is a...

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2 K( P9 i7 v) {好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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3 S; ]- p; L* G! U% X議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days  S5 ]/ P0 C& w$ h8 @
honestly, if there is jesus5 D+ h( f/ R9 g3 M/ w" ?
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
; q1 P' }2 O3 }we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:, Y! K; g1 I( u" u4 e, L' z

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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* h* B1 b; x3 Z4 b# q4 z& {yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
. _5 v3 ^) Z) x. l7 e8 ^just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it* F" b0 n" c/ T  @
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......$ t7 {2 n- J+ \; f; I$ ~4 a% B8 S" L
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
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2 X) i) k' i, g0 I5 ?honestly, if there is jesus6 w6 @) O6 ]+ K$ R% S8 Y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus% [; t8 g; n1 E: D
we can't blow him :cool:

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/ j& j. E+ J! T1 f: junderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics2 A6 m+ W: J( d9 v; e
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:" S% P3 e: f' p
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: