jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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6 f, Z+ q# x# Y& Dbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
6 M9 v# Z: K1 U5 [7 x. t1 ocomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case4 c  g0 W" H' ~
why this happen? just simple........punishment, X  t# w  L1 c" F* z3 S
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things 0 m/ e7 l3 ^7 E0 ~5 C
but why jesus need to do this?
8 b. i9 n( O% W  }, m% [punsihment for what???
) F5 g+ b$ v0 F- d# U/ ffor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus8 ?0 w1 U7 N: Z$ [
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# a% l8 b* B7 l; A; O4 Tbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ J6 g8 [9 ~  ~" n5 [  twhat will u do???
! ^" j3 H9 P4 P7 I4 ^7 ijust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:8 s, Q+ q8 ?) m, e0 B

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yes, what did u think is what i...

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) a- U/ w$ Y, y咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, r- o7 Q) p+ L7 Z7 d' t7 A! ]

2 K" r6 `) R# w+ E. Q咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:. h# O: h4 V: i8 q
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
( s+ u9 l6 H# O$ F* Q  Qcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case, j6 `6 s. }7 P9 V' v
why this happen? just simple........punishment9 Y. }+ {. s6 ~7 B! s; s! N
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
+ M$ P8 I7 K% ]5 Y9 z1 jbut why jesus need to do this?' t; m3 J: Z1 `% Q; j" V7 X. _
punsihment for what???
6 h0 S7 J* N' @( ~% u" t6 W5 qfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus6 q) i& |& }; O3 v
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
5 c- I) l$ ?  W- e0 W) B! i6 `but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 8 a7 `% \) A7 }& M+ T
what will u do???) I; E' K5 [8 r' D
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:" B6 Z( y: J- f( Y9 F
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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; d# _; d# x8 v4 A3 @% z) u) K8 l2 F好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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6 @+ A* R/ i  \" b* e  I9 F議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
1 s+ k% }7 N; d* s5 hhonestly, if there is jesus
4 s8 q/ J( N3 C8 T+ J* s9 fhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
- D: J; T; b$ M% C( C1 l- y5 J( bwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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% v5 C8 N: @& x# ~. n好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
1 l! r' X: @; Q9 R: @7 E1 @1 v- ~just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it2 F# ?. I9 B! r2 y
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
# V/ R; V+ u0 ]) tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:- u" |+ ]1 r4 f# }) H( _4 @/ O( p
bro singgeihot and rest365days
! V; P" a$ q1 {2 g) ?' {& ^8 hhonestly, if there is jesus+ f! q% f1 a3 `+ \
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
  p. E& G, n: F& [' \7 Fwe can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
+ D- k7 U7 N  V. {  motherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
6 O- }: \8 ?( A$ K% ]. ~) y自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: