jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) V. {8 h, b- [1 A( l  y* Q3 `5 ?
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
' t# G1 J$ P! j/ H, uwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
2 G3 p. q; Z- u0 R9 t# imany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ; X& e( m! p0 k' q: _& L) o
but why jesus need to do this?( z* R) d! }* o1 R7 V! A4 r: m
punsihment for what???
3 C' J' C: B3 T& Kfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
. ?7 @. e5 z! L/ G: ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
# Z) i( H  c# a- ^8 abut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:2 K4 X5 n5 ^9 J- ~+ w3 V8 c
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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  v* {  w9 ~' ~# W6 a" _# g( W9 H/ T( ?但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:8 M  U% w3 `1 r( Y; P
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
+ b, W2 g. _: E, o# Vcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case: M2 _5 E. }% e3 \3 t
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' r- i5 O) |2 J( F& h. ?4 vmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ) e3 b3 V, `' Y6 {; a8 y/ |5 m7 P; z
but why jesus need to do this?0 a. x2 g, r" A( w2 X# D3 V9 W1 I' a+ @
punsihment for what???, ~0 {2 d1 @3 G7 ~/ b' G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus
" H. N( B( {; D- G4 ktry to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
1 @% Y9 h5 V/ Q3 bbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u . S: B  [5 q9 n2 W% a* ]' G
what will u do???" T8 `) K! w0 w# f3 Y
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,   k5 ?2 g9 r5 h! T: ~* N

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% w; L' X) C( s2 @+ xsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:+ h8 b" B( s& R# o1 X
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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9 q3 u) \- R# G' t/ t' g0 \# A, z好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 * X% m7 o5 Y% m  Y

/ a# Y8 A, S/ b2 H# o4 ^# v* e議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days# e9 U& F1 O1 M/ t3 K0 l
honestly, if there is jesus
; Y6 x  ]3 M9 V: G) Hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
4 R/ {& ?6 Z& N3 G% |0 _- Qwe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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: a! g' i7 O6 g- V好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
) O# \7 T$ H# l, Q7 E7 Tjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
9 i- J0 N% ~4 ?+ d2 ?so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
! T9 v6 c7 t) Z) ynow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:5 k0 Y1 M+ w$ R2 \9 A
bro singgeihot and rest365days
6 q$ ?% j+ _3 h' Zhonestly, if there is jesus  x2 A1 m; t. o; ^& c5 C
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus. \, s2 z8 V" h7 G+ A
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics+ z; Y3 w! s; N0 ~! F
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:! u7 Y4 s8 D) k" e9 J0 b( {# `
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: