jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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; J6 x( r7 S( E) Kbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
- Z2 [3 {, o. ?" T7 t- @8 U( ncomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
+ L1 C5 g/ S, G# Qwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
. p9 I+ C8 P: |2 h  G7 o1 ^" wmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things + j6 H* \; K. [6 f# r, x% u, c' g
but why jesus need to do this?
0 [: Z, d$ F5 d% }: a3 Cpunsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers( b0 x  x1 q% Z
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
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just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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6 \# Z6 Q2 S8 H8 Uyes, what did u think is what i...

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0 q, Z2 p) u! l咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉; X$ g, H6 y+ S" e: Z7 e7 F
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排, ^" S+ z1 p( i+ G* `) V
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( f( W& U+ A: _9 p1 c6 k+ |2 B8 z. h
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?$ D5 {2 J9 d. h9 G& P3 L+ N
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
# V, i0 M# i" ?' R/ o; E7 [6 m6 Iwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
! y- d+ j0 f- \/ }: Rmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things . B# u- s, ^) z) q
but why jesus need to do this?
, l5 l1 b  o7 g, t- Hpunsihment for what???7 n/ I, h' I* k  F6 B
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus- L" O" u# g8 ^% ?* d
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers' b% Y8 a* z; Q* j# C5 |- E
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
/ a2 I' g$ R5 s8 x/ kwhat will u do???
# I- H8 l- f. k1 R+ B& ?4 r, Djust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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$ |" `8 ^8 P- E, |* {sorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:( t# p* ?. p# s( E: B
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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5 A$ a. r" a9 [) E: k* _好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀 5 K+ H: @# i) i# S  H7 @: |

/ e8 p8 v+ Q4 q1 u& K) I8 x議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
$ ]: y( [' b4 ^honestly, if there is jesus5 i" c& z1 `$ i" P$ g& D% Z" @
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus' C. v7 c  a6 L' A$ ^2 I* v
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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8 `/ F: I. a7 b- p+ A( Myes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life. D- N& s( Y) Q" w
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it
& v& @) X1 c% M2 A7 cso jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
) {- m8 I  y+ r4 X3 R! Tnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:  t/ A) k7 W& c$ N- B2 s+ @* v
bro singgeihot and rest365days4 L# Z) L# ?$ N" K3 m1 i: `
honestly, if there is jesus* n5 @- e/ e4 y
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
/ s% S/ i9 |8 a* f% bwe can't blow him :cool:

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0 |/ V1 J2 y, l, J) Munderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics9 u1 i( U. W1 g* h
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:
" r& f$ T. Z0 k$ k" L7 }2 V2 V& R/ X自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: