jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:
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3 j' l+ j( a  P8 c% V' m1 Q7 xbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
4 n8 a0 i5 \2 h( [comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case# E# l% x" t: k- ]' ~( f9 ]
why this happen? just simple........punishment
' w9 q6 i( H  x% T; F4 g- tmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
; v; J$ W* Y+ K3 p3 O5 xbut why jesus need to do this?
; I% u* K9 D2 U9 w$ ]punsihment for what???
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try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
8 u) ]5 t1 B: c( ubut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
2 G! `2 q8 H- z" \0 i  Vwhat will u do???0 A7 j9 u! N6 K0 ?4 v9 P/ C" o' d
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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( {) @4 F* i% g4 M0 D/ b0 }但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:2 P7 s' D& {5 t( y6 H! l
bro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?7 I) e& M; h& V2 G$ H
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
/ s6 [  }5 q& S7 `2 o/ Rwhy this happen? just simple........punishment
- o8 b" f9 Z6 Fmany guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
2 S* @* C2 l! r+ X- O% L. wbut why jesus need to do this?4 y) q5 [9 W$ p& \4 F3 Z- E$ R
punsihment for what???8 m: ]! Q- J! V7 R# G
for his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus+ S" v# ?- W9 D( p7 o- g; w
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
- z$ E& i) V; Q3 Xbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u 6 \% [! }+ G! S4 u$ D
what will u do???% U9 b% {4 }1 _5 \* X9 {/ g, k  `8 k
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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! j8 F2 C$ `- g( ]& usorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:6 @: f  v' _! O- H" _

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6 r& B3 J9 \4 y( Q, o' [bro, did u know that there is a...

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3 D! k# K9 K- h! P0 X好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days; b: p, C  d  W, U" d; j, O- X
honestly, if there is jesus
# ]- T. i* ^0 h/ W' xhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus
8 z/ l' @5 t) F# t9 M& Ywe can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:% W3 K/ J9 u( I* U' Q/ G
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" l  O% N2 p: z$ i3 b$ Y" _yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life
/ k8 J" c- Z/ m! g0 D. [8 k( g; wjust like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it& s2 ^0 F) T2 Z
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......& }9 ]' e; N( [& N
now, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:; z& X5 l1 e8 a: B! \$ d! b- F4 ]+ i
bro singgeihot and rest365days! P4 W3 p& a2 {2 s7 p
honestly, if there is jesus" q; G7 ^4 v  R0 k% l5 o7 ^
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus9 ?, ]; M8 X* g2 p& H& K
we can't blow him :cool:

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understand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics
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singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:/ [, q8 R! ]7 y0 ~) F1 p# G
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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9 X* x- Z9 T/ `6 Hhaha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: