jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 10:13 AM:# \1 k' @) z; [" B) h6 g+ D* d
仲有我想問吓神, 南亞海嘯係咪佢攪架
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+ B# r) b( U; y* _0 h: N  w  Jbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?
5 N# L. }8 [* M  W4 D0 xcomparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case
% k* O3 \$ n( |9 ^3 p& _why this happen? just simple........punishment2 d( A3 F: b1 A
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things ( u7 w! i. v; C. g8 V  {0 W
but why jesus need to do this?) v5 G) H( q& ]$ f0 u% h! c
punsihment for what???
, s6 k% K8 y6 ^/ S* nfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus; v6 p( G- T9 o
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers+ G9 O( \% M0 C+ L
but so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u   L+ _& i1 u5 s/ Q3 S: i
what will u do???
7 t4 ?1 c9 n, c( X5 {1 C; q1 O& W2 ajust sharing my view, not arguing yr points,

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:19 AM:
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yes, what did u think is what i...

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咁我多謝佢俾咗個咁好嘅老豆我囉
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但係有 d 人一出世就無老母, 無老豆? 你實会話神想考驗佢哋, 神一定有佢嘅安排
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咁 d 無老母, 無老豆, 餓死街頭嘅細路又點計呢? 如果又係神嘅安排, 佢都幾過癮喎

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
- M/ A) d5 G7 g- U' r, ?8 Cbro, did u know that there is a 挪亞滅世 event in christian history?) ~- v( V' @4 f, I0 m6 g
comparing this with the tsunami, the tsunami at the southeast asia is just a simple and small case3 _) H- M1 m, [& x$ a% i5 Y
why this happen? just simple........punishment$ h. K$ d) z: Q2 _8 ?
many guys also think that god, jesus should give us all gd things
7 o* M/ s4 u! Q: T' Q' t) C2 }but why jesus need to do this?
, W* Y. u# `9 @& D9 i1 K- Upunsihment for what???
4 v! t0 t1 w  j$ ]3 Lfor his sons and daugthers who dun believe jesus! Y* |8 ]& i; b7 T' N' ^0 M: V' P4 {
try to think u are jesus, u have done so many things about yr sons and daugthers
( _# h9 g( }& ~/ o. v8 Z/ z3 M" X, Dbut so few of them believe u, even leaving away from u, scolding on u
8 `6 i$ }9 Q( b; hwhat will u do???# t1 t6 R0 {9 Y$ E* C% O& E9 _
just sharing my view, not arguing yr points,
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( x5 e0 z" Y, J. ?! dsorry, I can't agree to this.. we have no evidence to backup the interpretation...  whether or not it is a punishment.. I can only say I don't know.  but there is a lot we can do..  to care, to love the people, and to preach the gospel.

singgeihot

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:26 AM:
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bro, did u know that there is a...

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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理佢, 唔聽佢話, 佢就有權唔声唔声浸死你.... 仲唔小心浸死埋你個好乖好聽話嘅細妹.... 好恐佈呀
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議事論事啫. Not arguing. Just debating.

jason williams

bro singgeihot and rest365days
/ f# [- ~7 `% X0 v* h* G, vhonestly, if there is jesus
  U2 s' ^3 ~, ^- hhe really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus$ D8 C, N" v# V; b9 J- ^
we can't blow him :cool:

jason williams

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 11:39 AM:) A7 P( V$ S  ?' B( E
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好似你老豆養大你, 但係你唔理...

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yes ga, this is really what he can do if u are the naughty son, but for the good daughter, jesus will not take away her life0 v) ^& z* R5 s0 n+ V
just like the case in 挪亞方舟, this boat is made because jesus want to save the guy who believes in jesus and so told him to make it5 I: \$ |6 ]8 T8 B$ v
so jesus is not killing all, even the good guys......
( u1 u; m9 s) I  rnow, i am still thinking, if it is true, i must pk because i have done a lot of bad things

rest365days

Originally posted by jason williams at 2005-6-4 11:42 AM:
6 P3 F& {3 I0 r# c, Z" t% xbro singgeihot and rest365days
9 t, u$ C0 F* E: I+ y6 ohonestly, if there is jesus( u6 g8 i% l: c
he really can do what he wants because what we own now is created by jesus! c* Q7 C% H7 A9 L  ^, X
we can't blow him :cool:

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8 P/ O: E2 w) g4 P4 @( xunderstand, my concern is.. the tsunami is a controversial topic..真的是懲罰嗎?  一定是懲罰嗎?  有什麼evidence讓我們把事情提升到屬靈的層面?  就看待為一個自然災害不可以嗎?

brightlee

em.. i think it's good to back to topics, t  W$ V4 C' [( |. H) c
otherwise another non-stopping............... aiiiii....

singgeihot

自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

rest365days

Originally posted by singgeihot at 2005-6-4 12:06 PM:7 n/ C8 b6 J9 e& [' B5 L
自然災害? 神全能架, 天地佢創造架, 佢咪自然囉.... or 自然災害囉

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haha, but the "purpose" may not be punishment...:cool: