Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ a( a2 [3 B) |$ C我係一個連自己都吳信的人
7 N# S/ r* o, s. ]0 M' {1 e( E( N又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢# V' x& F- P! S/ T* ?( ?( j
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!2 f4 K0 y$ o) H1 B6 B1 X

% B7 h% o/ }) V6 }; o, ~Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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! q# O9 J/ q9 Imr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....9 l8 N2 r4 \" n# b9 t7 x

4 O7 F$ x) Z: estruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....# u/ `2 \0 Z- ^) G- @
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
+ v5 Y& s- a) T  W我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人% [% Q9 g& o1 S! C6 y/ W
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,7 C9 H# Y& s: E; T
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 R+ |  f3 v, `& Y9 }$ v在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:+ A) n7 B) y5 ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?5 F$ R# s. B' D3 M
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.3 F8 n2 z1 C' u4 R& G

. z8 W- A8 v2 u+ i' I  RLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo7 F$ a# P; \: p4 J

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ L0 _  p, }2 L, O- f建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
5 x" r' y) R- V8 m! }# uYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
% U, v1 T% G1 j9 w" K; I% Cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......* L! s' s- N" S
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it's starting because we have sins......1 u+ p; w4 l0 u6 [: W: i, \( m' B
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
1 e$ [, j5 i( g) mour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; H, u- n% y$ C1 o- G0 L* Q
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,4 G% x/ E) L) p* |- D" N
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
- B8 q$ g1 O$ R3 `4 W- r這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全+ m* z! U! o! A% k5 a. I: C
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,! U2 U8 v  b5 O- G/ t
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~# A5 N4 C) W7 h+ @; w# [4 ?
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
4 G: Y1 a& h6 w5 Q+ d好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,/ X: L: P) q+ f# l3 k8 o
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 G) t8 b: x8 T  C美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具# P3 H" Z* u/ u% q# ~+ P* p

! c7 }1 s1 p7 h- e! r$ t% {" y吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,- E2 x3 ?) ?4 R0 H: I" \+ @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干, I2 h$ x- d3 g  @3 N
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以下是其他人的見解,2 @& d  g4 a! y
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤# c) M9 j. r! c! @# f9 I3 b3 y& v7 v  J
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............  M( D4 L4 n/ p5 p' M
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ c4 H3 x4 K# ]1 J

! R$ q% _6 q% c/ S/ Q4 }同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 h/ i+ G& z$ N- w' l+ u/ @.............信耶穌... ...

9 ]) R  C' l, ]! t! xRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....0 g% u  B) P, u
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.