Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% d. f+ Y7 Z* t  c, Y* X/ e
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 G' A( ~1 b. W. @4 o
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
$ z. u; ?% i1 f# ^) ^1 v6 J, A$ Z道理我知道好多只係做吳到
; |0 ~; @8 q* o& X" \; d! e呢D就係做人的悲哀

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/ O' j- M7 d% F& wNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 {+ t, W" m3 o7 v

- T: |1 U+ q# H0 `& m2 {2 C/ FNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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( V3 f2 z3 B, j& k3 x; G  Amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ `" o, ]: W/ t% z

) ^" v6 y( t! |6 o% o, Jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...../ q& {1 u( F% P6 ?/ E" {) f
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
" v8 [$ {# b# f" I4 E6 z. v, L我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
* y2 V5 U9 B$ b3 X7 V2 o以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,( S' w' Z9 f) N2 `: X: X
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& w7 A& O- ~. F1 ^0 g* y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 `" F2 M- Y2 x- x0 O, c" w5 L  WWhat a statement we have here?" }" z, s. c! f& {$ f. q
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! H3 I" {: p/ Z3 E! i( f

+ z  a6 C& n) o3 SI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 L* Q$ y9 b" e" r( Z, ]! W

) `6 X" {$ Q/ @* k- wLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo  a+ |" W. T- t* y) P% R
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
9 V. e) U; n1 u5 _( Z5 T% ^* C建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"- E/ V. [! b3 ]" _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....* z5 h- t8 M: o3 p& r1 J
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......9 u# |8 f: J* h( {. j5 R
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us # H; M# j" c6 i$ x. L( J
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
" W$ {7 l2 J$ i只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
) y; n/ p3 w& ~8 _' L用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& ^: @* C' m3 m; q# W0 l6 B: Z* y3 S這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全4 m- }" p& |& ?! ^, S0 f
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
& M$ p& v0 _) N: ~# x, p( B  V而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,- S. b" J" X/ Z0 K+ l; i
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' ^4 o: M: g; b3 D) m( [
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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/ D& P+ L) i7 {: R美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...; ?+ |; u( z7 Q8 V/ s
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具/ l1 L( O. x# D0 i

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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干3 }- Y2 k% I: p  S- S/ i3 M8 N3 A

" T1 {# r- F; ~3 L以下是其他人的見解,
1 X$ e; Z9 ?7 _# c' Q  m/ {4 W看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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2 o$ [. S! r1 R2 ^+ G9 s信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!2 U1 u! Q& Q9 h  H1 b) [8 j
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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7 u* Q) z2 D1 m# x- c1 X我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!+ Y  h7 @0 U* m9 ?

. ]6 }1 J, M! j- l6 ~1 E2 W同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
! R, J7 V% P. y* p; m.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....$ }9 P: R9 n. m) z" `7 l

+ {6 o# Q+ I8 z" yActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....; @; ]1 V* f9 W: `% C

6 v6 j6 d8 X" a7 i& eYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.