Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 a/ E' ]' k2 q% i我係一個連自己都吳信的人
# b7 X, E! n: I' ~6 a. I又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
# ^3 U1 v5 r9 l5 X8 p/ V道理我知道好多只係做吳到
1 @- k0 i9 H' d呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!1 L4 |; U$ U3 V4 S
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...../ z/ f. ~  c7 ~
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 J( T; V2 f( \7 ?我只不過微小的基督徒.................... L$ j: O# L+ n" m& u
真的!!這不是反話
; r7 `  w. P" [) |8 ]% G因為我是情感比理性強的人0 r: ~  }! {0 C% |, ?+ L: ?  y9 _
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 n$ w4 m1 H5 E; N: h. Q& h1 V
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
5 G5 O7 P: n# z3 E! R在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...1 T6 c( P9 @$ ]; B' P
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 n: D) n- i/ R8 z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 @) n0 _2 ]7 l. a3 D2 P3 i, F& }What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? * z: t1 i' L. M
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 w% L. \) x! p  R, {! a! `
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
, ]3 j4 M7 w; H& G建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"7 J. S" h' i; q1 S- z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 Z5 X/ v9 O( A+ N4 ~& T
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% M! [7 A2 n7 c! ?
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,8 A1 t; j% j& S* n- X# u/ D9 Y
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) B" @& R# h; r5 G/ [8 t; K3 @
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
$ D' `2 l5 u: f7 F& z$ ?# J如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
4 Y$ Q' d; `$ r' ?8 E( `而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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1 ]9 r( g8 D$ h+ ]" g導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
- l* {# K/ e! }好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 `2 h! d$ H& [- A+ j6 |, \; k2 X0 E
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...& n( r6 e) N; x8 m7 J: U
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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# ]! s$ F5 c6 ^3 R) A7 b! E吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
3 ]  q: m% k$ ]# k$ d信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- `9 }4 a  [# o' ~
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 d3 a' t( L. y- D  R; _, J# \

7 N1 X) X; a+ t5 m3 e- X+ ?同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
' {- Y( ?, t8 u$ O& Z$ Q.............信耶穌... ...

1 |+ E) ~* {0 _! LRegarding the resurrection...., F& `/ E% R5 ]5 ]6 M5 D
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- }- J/ D- S; u
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.