Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:2 P/ G" n% E6 l7 B& m* W4 [
我係一個連自己都吳信的人5 n+ t$ Z- Z1 k/ X
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
4 Q2 X, T, N; m. B+ Q+ [3 A+ N. f, T5 A道理我知道好多只係做吳到8 T/ b# H3 x( b: s* H) E
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ l) P. a0 t4 }/ W6 p, X: `+ C& Tstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
7 b4 h1 B7 R* [# v; a  e0 echeer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ u4 m) x$ Y, P7 H% d: G2 i我只不過微小的基督徒...................- _* ]1 W8 m% y# A: b% H! G' I* T
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
# ~$ |5 h+ ~7 T' g以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
# v, v; F# X: E$ G, U* t在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...2 f2 e8 }% Y& Y8 V* h5 J! m8 L9 `
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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% K% y* {$ X/ }$ s% N7 iWhat a statement we have here?( G. s% i- |% V4 ?: L' x2 \4 ?

- l2 J; r& z" L- L3 \Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? - \/ |5 o% \, w3 |4 z1 g
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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% z5 [' E* K5 {" l$ a4 mLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& W$ B# a7 _& O( H' w' x

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( B. s# v# r! b, L3 @0 n建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"8 _9 ]0 i. N" a. H7 g' C
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
; n& W$ S9 V) ^9 A: pbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......7 y; h( d: m) n+ {& c
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求". d$ S3 _1 K4 e! |3 N1 @& C
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: n) B( o2 c2 a( I7 H
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
/ A$ Z, f- m* I' @# B3 C這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
: k( R; [! f8 a) u如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
* `9 Y! Z4 o" b' D. O% y1 ?1 q" F而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,; y) z) a5 F! d; R7 M1 I( X7 }
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,! z& f# {/ C' I6 f3 [% [

9 w/ k2 h! P8 \  m( u5 w6 ?一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 l* ^; u/ b, @) b  p
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 D  R1 M1 W- a: D' w美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具6 }! l3 I+ t$ b8 c9 ~
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! c& o0 E5 b7 K* i7 g# e
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
9 V4 m; q, F% P6 @' \8 Z看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤. [$ R; X# ]2 T" R
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ r; w) C$ H* p+ f

5 b$ n9 l! ~8 [/ Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* D- J* j7 g0 t. v9 d. r1 {! b: ^
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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9 d+ `* g  Z/ ~" l1 q同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:) ]. @/ l9 V0 N7 c1 H, o
.............信耶穌... ...

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" |+ y' W: M) tActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....4 J& S& N' d8 _3 b: A7 k
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.