Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
+ t* [( w  r$ I. w- v我係一個連自己都吳信的人
& l3 o% G, p6 t又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 E; b9 f0 _. h6 k: p! D8 ~道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 y, ]. h  A* q
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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4 H/ d0 [1 D, e! DNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!0 Z) N# S& Z7 v2 D6 x
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....; ~: H) }4 {2 e; e# Y0 l

9 g# X1 F+ K2 t% A: Xmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% a$ f( f+ n  O$ |% D0 V, @struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
5 v2 K4 {3 G. ?6 q+ G# Echeer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!* @' H$ e. A9 X/ s% b
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
$ o$ c# G& h+ |% d) I真的!!這不是反話
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1 K7 S/ Q9 A( V8 N; \1 U+ k& A. R所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 p1 h; W, h( k* h" X1 n, c  @以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
! J1 m  ^7 h9 }# b# R! b在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...5 z+ x; C- t; j1 y
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 u4 X+ q- x  o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 \: l9 |  }7 {What a statement we have here?% i8 ^' _# O! y7 s1 W% S1 N
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? - w9 s. ]/ H. K+ W8 L
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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' I- J& Z! O6 x+ I, a+ ALooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo" ?/ I# E% ]2 V- F
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* u" ~+ S0 E1 U* J& g建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"/ [' c9 I. b9 ~8 G! @
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
1 G* C7 M" d$ B8 E& s! Zbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......6 N" ]) C. x# N5 J
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it's starting because we have sins......1 o# |9 e; L7 |2 s" Y  p1 w( [2 J
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 W2 d- L1 Q8 U2 L5 F- ]% qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"+ ~: j, _) \5 o2 [! C( }/ A
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& G% p5 `5 C6 D7 g3 M7 c
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,  I: A, t2 |8 Z( }
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ ~  r3 `- x% k6 X, u& c如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
+ k0 A+ Z3 D! m7 F而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~* A1 W* _) S5 l, i
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,1 ?5 e/ X! c2 u# d- D3 F
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
7 C# O5 f# z# C* d" o/ B9 z改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法! g) M! m! G: b3 k% \. M
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...- F& P7 f4 D  }. ~

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
/ X8 o7 s( c, |7 k, w5 u信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
4 B' T! s, I5 x4 `; F) F看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: ^# d4 \+ v1 C" a- ?( v6 \

! c( k" G/ ~3 p9 S& O: y信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!5 v# r2 l) j" c5 C5 T

3 Y1 {. G* q2 [# u- f3 ~1 T' Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, x* L' z, K: b
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 F) l# X+ P4 y% g/ [1 E
.............信耶穌... ...

4 i5 y$ O  m& E' q' E2 O9 g* t1 qRegarding the resurrection....: l+ E3 m9 C7 W2 D

& J& A7 [. x0 Y) v# D4 PActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.