Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ I/ K5 e% K8 T0 [5 ?
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!. V& @# k9 ^# r; O

- Y. X7 e2 e: b' u' ^. ?$ @' hNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( y' V. I" R3 z

' w. I3 B) A1 f! k/ c, Cmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 }- }. y. w* {% a9 u2 m" W) u& x: v/ f我只不過微小的基督徒...................
3 ^9 X" N$ G) e& I, |) s真的!!這不是反話
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1 Y( J- ]% W. T: _( `, J所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
0 F4 ]# h5 t: b以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& S% y4 M  t+ ^; A在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ h, M) ?* R8 T: t9 _3 g1 h
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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, [, }* R8 w4 U% C) ?What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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: D' R1 Q6 J% D0 DI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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. P$ s, s+ q1 |! DLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo% e" I9 `" B+ b3 t  K" j

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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$ f% ]$ L$ ~0 E2 X; O6 F( h"不信也沒損失"# y$ X4 V2 o2 x" y- A! S' [
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) H9 m% d' M. N3 [; e. A
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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2 K4 A" a& z$ cit's starting because we have sins......1 o0 m) N8 d2 L8 A  L1 o
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( T0 U) q2 |0 t0 N$ B7 h; Q8 a9 ~our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
" g: X+ A4 t( P0 S. \" k# U只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& K1 m# c  e7 ~. e用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
5 I1 C8 n  k7 {5 t這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
. @9 g: l0 O5 X* g如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, p8 D5 o- r7 B0 H0 E$ _2 n) ^, X
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~9 ]0 Q) H2 C$ f# L& a0 E
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,0 Q: v6 U$ B, y0 U5 J" w6 f
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,) ]% f+ A1 k$ b4 I# w% {) N
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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8 {/ k5 G' m7 k& ^# Q& F- Z宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,8 |8 M9 K% D# V+ z, M" U5 N+ T+ f" g
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干: ^$ j  q( Y* ~- k* D
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以下是其他人的見解,3 d$ z, t3 i. S' F& B" k
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤  H+ C) o& H; v5 J' a
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 P% B5 z% G: x

4 @; J3 M7 _0 E: ~7 U信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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8 |" {+ ]5 N- S不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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. k7 }$ o6 R7 _3 o( \我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
2 ^5 T; ^0 Z" V( X) N- c9 x( c.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....1 O2 F, ^) e! D# t

; r* i, q9 f) m9 f/ N% J# S4 wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 X/ h/ B! M) r+ }1 T1 ?
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.