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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ G& w5 n" U* s! L我係一個連自己都吳信的人
& n7 ?: ^7 ~7 M$ U* z又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
. n& g/ V9 P1 F* G: ^0 a/ m- J道理我知道好多只係做吳到2 O0 v; M5 A5 E' k
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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& V$ j- ?3 h5 o' n1 x7 C2 zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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* B; V3 H% @$ J9 QNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 l. t  B8 G; W* ]( @3 T

2 b1 L7 Q/ D5 o5 ~& L, Omr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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1 v! {2 P/ _7 C6 c0 S+ Y9 lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! G; V$ e& h" X% H/ _) F, u
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ w0 t0 v- g' C: L3 ]% s我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ X) a  K) l% A& A- m: R
真的!!這不是反話, q. u$ V# ~8 w$ h! N
因為我是情感比理性強的人
# X" E; W$ F: H& H" G所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
3 F  d0 h" T, }! |以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,8 X% m/ N  U5 S. _' `
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...# l. S7 p  P" R, K4 L9 E  @
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
0 E, @4 d# e& B, b8 h+ K- ]' `建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?4 ]0 B/ G+ \, D4 [0 ^( j

0 ]8 Z- R/ |$ r3 Q) f# ?* QJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 2 T: h6 @+ z! Z0 E4 n* u. f

0 f' ?: W- F& T, L1 i7 e9 ^I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.7 V% m# [' F; s- c

0 Z+ L9 X; Y7 _6 \Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, Z, q0 d0 N& _& ]
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0 ^8 {5 k8 ]3 r" j[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 h8 ~: W8 N+ A; S% Y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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, V$ k$ d  J: `& r0 {& ?  \"不信也沒損失". D# J* z8 d) Q1 ]
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" Z* i, O+ j! `+ b; Cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......$ M" K# H: K) o' h- s
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
, |9 a" @4 f9 }* N7 |7 xour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; B& p: W* l. n  H' q: ^+ K5 c0 v
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
2 ]6 Q, I3 \) A/ B5 {- e用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
$ u) d6 d: |- m# U8 T這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 m5 o' A" B/ k/ c. i: P如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
. i4 D: t) Z8 p5 ], m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' Q. t9 b9 ?9 |' a; E' a& n: [4 x

- k& e# t% r5 q7 k$ Y: l7 Q7 ]導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% h, k9 E( S) y: z* }9 g! p3 v
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 E( q  Y1 ~/ q' X- Q2 {

7 ?& Z9 A" T9 i一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,' K1 B& N/ ~8 y! _- d
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
! @% {% t$ x9 g. w' w) }7 X美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...2 ~( k( Z  S1 d# O' ^8 ?& \+ n; N
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
) O& s5 s% C) n% O0 K信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) ?; V5 y1 K. Y% u6 A9 z

5 g8 i% l& q8 |: m: I1 O, l以下是其他人的見解,6 y' `4 M, @/ N, X
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤  C! ~8 @# J5 {0 Q0 A
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm& b* H1 m7 ?6 I
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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( W9 v/ }8 m7 X7 @2 L4 K信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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, H/ p6 a# }( X( G/ S0 m+ q9 d& L不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!# S+ ]  ]5 u/ `* ^/ h
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 |$ U" C  v  q' M7 t8 k: P" F
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....' V: W. ]! ?  G  C. C. u

- u6 ?3 w+ T4 p' y. vActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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