Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: t6 k, k4 f* M! {" R$ a我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 V$ z8 ], Q8 i# X5 Z2 L( ~' j又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
$ P2 U0 \, l, ~% }- P& ^* q3 |道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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2 Z- x# R. H! k3 e1 z' gNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....  [7 v5 R5 j( g

1 g9 J: |: }, h/ j, R3 I) N; q7 v6 vstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& A, u% W% A7 i9 R8 E1 t# T
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ M  F5 p: G& Y4 W
我只不過微小的基督徒...................( \# s' j5 c6 t, n, y9 c( K: ~
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?* w3 |% u' }9 a% \
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.4 W! O7 I0 o% N  ?+ L  x# E
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:0 s" L% n/ x8 }+ Y. w
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. K' k! J1 u/ S5 r* s7 N"不信也沒損失"
) i; `% B; N9 v6 Y7 F( qYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
9 B% c4 A, @- _* f1 T( J8 Dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......." C0 f- ^3 J. z4 @/ H+ b

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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,# K9 v; M/ y. Z1 `' T) a; n
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  H+ C- ^/ E. O0 W" v, ?, J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& L3 J/ G. _/ m# l/ Y, t% p. X  K$ [
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看," M8 _, ]0 y4 O/ \" G
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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. f! S$ Y! ~1 ~* Y一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
# B" A' b0 I- \4 @! O2 j7 H改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法+ T& A  f. S; L4 n4 v# X
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...; J6 M! s7 ?/ a5 O) P- h

7 @) s7 h  Y2 O- w宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
' e+ }# G( w9 W+ k6 u信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,5 C. S( e5 i1 l9 b: f
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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+ G& P* o$ T9 |3 V不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!# w* V* O5 v  |7 q
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
: Z! ]  ~6 n5 ^3 n) K9 l.............信耶穌... ...

% A( k$ l8 F7 q$ C+ v) YRegarding the resurrection...., r  ~" P+ N: H: i$ x

- k6 f( L3 `9 O; u1 O5 eActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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) B/ t) F  G' R) ]- i6 wYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.