Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
) z4 O8 p5 ^7 ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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+ y8 x5 E/ G( T7 J道理我知道好多只係做吳到
0 }: {0 w& Y+ X0 |: Q呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ \( w: z6 M9 y8 X) Z4 \3 oNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!/ ~# S5 l7 y8 R, Q
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....; m6 c7 i4 E* |. k& T
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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- P! d, I' l- s% |; F: zstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!" i1 J9 M' Z; v5 V( p: t
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
2 S0 y1 O. j) G& Z( ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,9 I3 z1 }9 ^  Y9 w" c! l
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...$ i7 L( I2 D( u3 C! S9 J# U
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:: P* w, h7 w! F* y/ J  |$ K
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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: p3 @, M2 v+ x5 ~+ c4 tJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% `1 B, ^, M# M3 LI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ Z  p3 U: M; G4 ]2 R

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
' D+ w9 z' |/ H& t9 Y建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"8 m3 G5 S7 u/ N: U
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) a: b. M  V) W4 W; a0 I% ~6 z
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins....... N- A) ]: ]" P; h9 }& v  @
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us * t" Y, a) B! U8 {' ]
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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) Q' x6 y# a" K* |用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
) F; y8 R# M4 O% ~8 N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~/ @: l- n* Q$ g% @. U. ?
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
1 h. P& E8 t# v. K) Q* U) v9 v' H信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 }" @) R2 H' H3 ^9 h( W  z信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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6 S8 W1 ~9 E2 Q" l8 S% H不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!' N6 r9 o4 C2 k3 S$ I- S! K
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
1 Y/ |& {" p+ s: r& x.............信耶穌... ...

) x7 y4 ~- {# i* nRegarding the resurrection....3 b6 k9 @( J& G# E% Z6 ?

( t5 Y5 l# l! F; c/ |: wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....# H+ ^  E3 n5 R1 {" P# W8 B
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.