Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
" _+ s! {% z) F; r2 _/ f4 Z! ~; U我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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( b& l. }& Q) S3 S: bNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!. e' y# s! S1 a$ v. A
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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' G4 U* T/ Y% x$ Vstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 P; K8 @0 R; K. i% jcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話( }7 d) @5 E$ o$ @5 V) e% D
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
) _1 F1 i1 u  w/ C3 j以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
. V' J2 M7 F" ~+ i1 @) b. j在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
* r; B2 z% r- x8 G. g+ @建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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4 l; ]& K6 V5 f5 Y0 j' @* pWhat a statement we have here?
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# [9 L2 C1 O8 ?  _" XJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# r& i5 Q' e. j- d7 U# }5 a
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:& [! f% w1 ]! w) R# K9 Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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  A: i: w0 G8 B: Git's starting because we have sins......% ]1 U* h5 ~7 l1 ~' x/ T: W
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ' j  q9 j) [6 J
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"' v/ Q; ~) X! b( z0 B
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,- g+ f* }) @! J
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 q5 z* c/ \/ |; W' R
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全! D9 s& O: g; _9 Q% m8 p3 c
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  H/ F1 s, k5 Q9 z" t. A
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% c$ z9 K7 r& V
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,* A( ?- s* o$ Q9 _! Z" q$ ~7 h4 l; ]
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...' R- d4 g4 J, {  n! C

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/ j7 I* R, O+ r吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤% v& c  t$ i# B" S
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ J3 N! `& x* G, M9 e

  @) \. A/ q( m信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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- M' i* F' S; ~不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 q/ Z7 l4 ~+ S8 |" B
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!9 g0 b  w% p5 c& o
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 I' P+ f7 K2 a, G, M  o
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....' `4 M0 X1 G" e

. F% q% H* o* I) cActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.