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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:4 J) C' @5 `2 h4 O/ b# }2 o
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
: Q; }1 |$ q8 e" ]7 p# a又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% b& k. T$ P6 E5 {2 a道理我知道好多只係做吳到- ?$ M" _/ Q; K" \
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!# t5 d9 o1 }* w* R+ N% y4 t
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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& F+ ]( C8 F( g+ jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) r. \4 u) h7 Z, x+ J2 U% d# V" wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
2 H1 j3 z& g5 i7 ], Icheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!0 G+ o4 g: M# e8 I
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." J6 G1 @9 f# p' Q- U8 J: ]7 g6 B
真的!!這不是反話' W# F. I8 O; H4 v4 @0 T4 w
因為我是情感比理性強的人5 V  ~! \/ ?( H* N! X, e
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,% f2 I  M/ `4 a4 _; g0 T
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
$ o, h' V# J( j; Q0 L5 K4 @在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...2 {7 p3 @5 J( X* f9 Q* E
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; \% O1 Q) q- {7 a0 ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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  M7 d' u) v  \" aWhat a statement we have here?( B3 K7 v. W; T. k

& |5 c: p& ?8 _  J1 _5 YJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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/ d, ]& d6 Q% I; F7 H, Z: [I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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% Y3 E) Q, ?+ g, Z4 O[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:+ i# d. Q% {3 O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"# F6 d* r3 P( b: _$ S9 k# a5 ]& O
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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7 U6 {8 x, D+ ]; V" b0 yit's starting because we have sins......
& O1 x7 w9 I. y% P2 x- n1 Asatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
; @: o$ }8 z/ t" nour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"& o! I1 }: X+ H) O: _4 p7 P
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
9 o) P& [% H) d3 c4 e5 P用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,6 C' y. b) y* x& ^# A0 u
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~7 {+ ]! Y5 ^, p" C

; S6 t: a8 t, |* W# q, I3 ?. l導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
' ~+ m' E% s  |. \1 k好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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2 w% a4 H- ~. k1 X一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
" y+ m. ]+ e. Q" P7 |* U改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 a8 k& t+ y2 |0 o* O" h; [
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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; \; E- ~& S" V; [宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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7 C5 X2 o8 L# s9 M吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 M8 L5 }2 K6 ?/ A$ L  `( A9 }
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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, p3 n$ \: q" Q) P# T7 _1 t6 t以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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8 ~, C9 l2 d; M7 b! i: R7 k信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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% v9 x1 i: b6 d7 c; ~  I. R& a我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!) q$ Z9 t) V+ r; E3 w, q

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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& Q7 Z+ b( S0 i1 l, V* D.............信耶穌... ...
' l( N0 T$ c7 VRegarding the resurrection....
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& i0 j  y$ S/ i; DActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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% H( O5 ], `6 @* X* P. w. wYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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