Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 N$ O$ ~) d$ r6 X# D. l
我係一個連自己都吳信的人" K  [" ]& P. p
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
: g+ b- ?. @1 G道理我知道好多只係做吳到
: G+ D, L, ^& ~呢D就係做人的悲哀

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4 g+ o( Q3 P! j( d' `Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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: {# K: l: O* @8 K6 p( a! Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
# R0 y7 H. U' H  l" Fcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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: b1 Z1 P* ?4 n: C" a因為我是情感比理性強的人, z6 y0 J8 H* {7 M$ ], D
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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7 b+ ^* F. p/ S8 t( A: m  nWhat a statement we have here?" a1 c' s( u1 K) Y4 i) g
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: m. U' M! A/ R

: l& l4 n4 S1 k, V0 m) gLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:, e  `$ {- ~  K+ M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"+ w9 `9 _5 L: I5 O* a, e
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....0 @& k: K9 h" F% R  N
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......+ t5 p+ M- l+ b6 B- K
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"5 u, f' D( Z: @
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,# |+ r$ s; T6 a& \2 Z9 `
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( G4 L, `) j/ W, q1 a& e7 E而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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2 T* j- l, M' V: v( n6 _& `; K$ t導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,7 T1 _$ l9 A2 M4 F+ ?0 x& r5 z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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* n# z" T  p  `, \7 b一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
2 ?5 H5 x# x* `# k% o改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
7 E2 @7 ?( w+ e/ L# r美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 i( s4 s  o3 |4 a; F6 Q4 s

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! [! V2 [( L3 w0 z+ l5 O0 u
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............8 G% T! v" ?$ e& e" W
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" K# H0 q4 B% j
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!( A+ t+ @. v5 N# ~2 i# h
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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/ |/ C% d8 L; e+ z  cActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.