Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ x, K$ u2 {0 p6 ?2 s我係一個連自己都吳信的人
) u) E6 g# m8 k又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢9 O. ?. `6 N/ _/ w( [- h( Q
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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3 r* q6 V, J7 {# dNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!2 A! B8 U. F( C+ Q
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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- G9 q, }5 P' e! K) H( kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....) v$ K4 [% Y0 X5 N$ u
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!, U. u) f5 b+ r* i1 ]
我只不過微小的基督徒...................& j/ d) s+ |, k! Q
真的!!這不是反話
2 W' C# D  T" X# @  Y因為我是情感比理性強的人* k& R1 V2 a& q! X* D
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' U  z4 ]; ?0 e9 F0 z& g5 O, B以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,5 M1 t- N; [, I' Y: s/ k, u* }" y& E5 O
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
* C4 X( l) X+ M建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?) S- z' \' F/ x! V8 t8 z# ?9 t# r2 y
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 3 Z- `3 z+ A, Y0 P, j2 e
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo( V; i: h7 M, E8 W, v
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
% x8 M  G/ t: L( a1 d建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
% I& O2 s% D/ F7 _3 I  D- tYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ @" \4 v, f4 P) b- E7 cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......$ @6 |& _6 d  m0 ~& j
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it's starting because we have sins......
$ `2 G. K; n8 }8 @6 r2 H$ \5 M0 N) ]satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 c0 s7 D8 x; f8 o" v
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% t- W. |* h8 ~
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
* Z% Q, N9 h$ h& l& w  s用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
4 A' V8 t( {. e這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
5 B1 ^3 _+ n. ~& t如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
8 S0 \) q9 L# z8 N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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" Y: i- n9 V9 j% j0 }/ G% j導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
; l+ `" D* ]; z: x& w8 y* P! M; }好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,* w3 E6 V9 t4 k/ s
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,0 g* n, Y9 n, t* M0 R% |6 G
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ g- y& J9 Q: \1 c
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干/ k" c- r  z3 _9 i0 ~: Q) Y
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以下是其他人的見解,/ K' T; r( Q( Q
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# J# e; V  L' }* b5 O  E
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!& L  O& i5 b0 Z: U' @

( X! Q4 E3 F! O( y: n我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& C4 C  p  l, @1 P8 J. y: p.............信耶穌... ...

' |) F" T" M% O' @! ?Regarding the resurrection....
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+ O* y3 f; @+ G. v- d1 qActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 X2 |: Q4 s) e

. [/ n2 O! C$ |You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.