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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
, B( K/ e# j$ {3 r) [% g( j4 Q我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到; {9 c* V+ J! w/ F8 V( s+ F
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....& Y4 C. k: g/ w9 ]

5 R+ r7 ?* a9 h% A. l& Emr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....& N6 ~! ~4 E% `% e4 _- P1 U% l

  _6 [- o2 c- h/ u+ E. dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' n% i& N6 I5 H# r4 ?% r
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
2 n3 U1 A1 w, d& V% v( V, ?我只不過微小的基督徒...................
" ]: V1 s! Q% t+ N) M. ~真的!!這不是反話
- U+ R9 L: F+ X3 z- o0 F因為我是情感比理性強的人
" d( D0 f# z! a+ x所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,$ G( y7 {% j* |
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,  I& F7 O: A9 A$ }
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" a2 a6 M  U! ~) O. s/ P7 [3 @( {
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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9 k  `* l* r' VWhat a statement we have here?) p, N7 T: h- e- [+ }- E2 G

1 q2 |7 e: p2 E* B" Q; R7 ?Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% j$ P8 E6 _+ X# S: ZI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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; Z3 R  e1 m; @. u" H  h7 z& |$ TLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ S5 q- J% c: `2 _

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ Q* f( T' l6 B6 [8 }: S+ Z: i建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
# E2 o8 C9 [) Q! ?Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 Y- X8 V- s, j6 y4 g. mbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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$ k$ m- Y0 m& D  e5 [% ~3 Y6 a) eit's starting because we have sins......
1 f7 `4 L) B( l3 q/ tsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us $ @3 v1 w" H. O1 W2 t3 c- k3 x  F: q
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% k: C! q4 ?) _( Y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
% l0 {6 V0 L- w5 e) z/ P用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
" ^$ J( \, a0 ?$ \, F% l這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
- T9 m3 F- v6 X如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
" K$ b: e) e) r而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  L3 e7 ^1 ^( m  h# Z

6 A- c( f2 R  D. m- l' m; R, X2 E導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( r  _/ m! d( P  Z0 s, }) _% n2 c好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,- I+ F4 }" V9 _* A  V8 _) Q
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: d% y/ U7 z( V, P美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具7 f# Q/ M& }: ^. ?$ ~. o  ^* C( J. g

) z/ t3 l2 C- d6 ?吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 u) ]3 g) t$ J9 T. l
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) N: C. v0 \' }& j' D5 y

* h) S/ d: R1 \% X2 o以下是其他人的見解,
, E# H. l/ |4 y& E; r% t+ U) c看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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+ X9 Q) Y6 A/ q) E; H" l/ c6 w[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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: B$ T6 H  e' d$ o5 i0 D不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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5 @& |. M/ c$ D8 V( c我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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, `& ~: L9 P+ X7 B同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
7 H# S# z6 G% K. }! J& N.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....& ?+ k/ }' b+ S. j  x* H
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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