Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
% e1 W5 p) K7 i. V' q3 Z我係一個連自己都吳信的人3 ^9 d: [2 s  f
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢. a8 T. Q4 Q; c' c4 X" t0 E8 O
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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: F8 \$ R% y$ {0 @( {( \* R1 n6 B7 QNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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# B; Q9 ?( i6 h& q' [mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....) D' g% J# F6 ^( `
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 `/ p9 x1 V8 K* U/ Ccheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!& N  R; S3 \% p! V+ o& p
我只不過微小的基督徒...................* @) o  m' b/ ^6 x5 n9 z! I6 h
真的!!這不是反話& l1 C* E' V3 b3 h+ @/ C& G2 k
因為我是情感比理性強的人' u1 ]+ ~6 A) e5 h
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,. a. c! e6 N  P$ Y5 c' I
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ ^2 r' l( F+ g% M在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
( r/ l0 z+ n$ _4 \建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. R( S/ ]( Z5 [$ `8 B, C: `What a statement we have here?: A: u7 j5 V8 e: i7 P3 a7 F" `

# `$ h% f1 b) P- YJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # A' R2 t, f" v4 J. q8 {/ V; o

6 [" W0 e2 R& i) r+ l2 }I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 d' Y8 ^  Y/ {2 [3 v, S  C5 C" s

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 L4 F+ E" g( D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"; C4 f+ K; R3 u' [2 h
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 N( E5 s5 |8 U3 H
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......% e$ ]) ^! b  g7 X9 y
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
+ P4 W# O* z- R; i: V" jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 R. o  j4 _8 S8 e
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,0 O% P; F. Z+ O9 S
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& w# U, h/ U* T* }這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全3 v6 r' n8 R0 T: ]# N
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
, Y) h5 C1 h, o7 @0 y而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~8 y) S( _) T/ k) v# ~2 A4 u

; t8 N" @9 A( `# \  ?- A! [導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
" ?/ Y* e# w# I好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,! D& d4 N" U3 x8 ~$ C2 R/ f2 W0 V
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,& x% K" s% ?' _7 ?7 B" ^
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法7 m0 Z7 _* |) ~
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...( j6 @! ?' h' m9 z& w; s$ c6 E

) q2 f# K/ Z. Z) q2 q宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,; L( Q+ g+ B& w
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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( D- _1 A/ T& @. X8 ^- t以下是其他人的見解,
/ o/ ^1 G4 A/ W9 u. J' f$ r看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ m) f4 j, g! b) |; P! b! r2 M
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!% n1 @' e: r. t
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ P0 L+ C. e+ i' @; ^8 ~$ r
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 ^2 z2 }% H2 s: z2 s9 {
.............信耶穌... ...

4 E1 V; w" a- E9 C% y4 ~6 yRegarding the resurrection....
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, E- _: `3 b& Y% r- OActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....+ C( j/ m6 a, V+ p6 [4 A; J8 P
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.