Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
1 l% ^# s4 ?6 A8 n0 N道理我知道好多只係做吳到
' W1 I7 `) j5 X6 ^! i/ k  P呢D就係做人的悲哀

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$ x5 o/ @+ t- m  y" {) Y9 mNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!# O+ v, h8 b% @5 s
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( x4 r* y" T: H* \* Q8 |. l
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
# H3 t; u$ |8 J& o  \0 v  Acheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
9 A0 q; m% L8 R8 E我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 P, a2 L  T! l' ]
真的!!這不是反話) ^; e) v* J5 j
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ t8 T& X* P% O# c9 k. J
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,+ `! m: w" y- [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
, X  ?' Z5 m9 W/ f; v1 p8 }建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?* Y: u6 m" j- c5 X7 z! f

, P" @5 R( N/ BJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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  _9 K5 e9 W. OI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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+ n2 R) B% V0 h1 Z) O# f) ^# ULooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
3 W5 B# P7 o+ O- u* ^建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失": `; Y6 [# D/ h6 B" ]/ s: l
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
& G0 F; j8 y1 E2 ebut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......' T1 S. _7 r0 B+ ^# E" Z) s
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
" @/ k5 {1 V( j& wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
% h; G& l9 s4 Q  \只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
+ C/ @* ~+ v# Q3 i% R5 i用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,' [4 D  @0 y- {; h
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
8 k1 ^' W- [( R2 m  e7 \如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,4 E$ ]: r) B/ e% w6 F/ K/ i% J* f/ s
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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- W, H4 O* C" q$ U- L1 R導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
# y* y( Q* u' n; Z3 f$ j好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,; Y$ `- F5 H9 M1 Y1 W
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  a. W4 a+ S8 D5 ~" p
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰.... k" c6 W) k8 X0 \
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% f  ~! c  W6 E. T0 I9 N: O0 l吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 n5 s- r8 n8 J( E9 `/ b4 o* U信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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9 Q) J. |! ~. c; P3 u+ f" T) a7 }以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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7 O. A" B& Q. P& `; `  _5 L- S不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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4 m4 l/ S- [5 }6 B  L; z! }同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
) ]) z7 \0 s, I+ v. R" a. J.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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  r6 B/ V$ P% ^+ m/ E" t7 wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....  _% g6 c: e: T. p9 U5 L
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.