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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:+ @9 [9 J5 A2 C/ t$ i. Y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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: `+ K. j7 A! ?道理我知道好多只係做吳到6 _( K0 q! ]3 x4 a* w6 @! p8 O" x
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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4 D& k' E6 j% E- X# f9 j' U% mstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
4 v( c! H1 i6 F2 r& Fcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!2 C+ b' z# c( `; z; A5 x3 U
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?9 q1 t: T+ z7 f! ~. q% M- X5 I
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.8 g+ J3 s$ M# x9 a

9 ^! ~" x; ^) J8 B1 i+ CLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) l. F* x" U. k' U: g
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:cool:
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3 v  w' f. R1 r) F0 |[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( U: i. k0 j" K' \
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"* S# e7 l9 j' A
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....1 G4 J. N9 U' J- m7 o, \* P% j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; M  ~' d# C0 p4 y9 s- d; O% z

/ e: J1 R- z7 p0 D' D9 Jit's starting because we have sins......8 j* K7 j# p; \- p$ A3 g
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
5 ]$ c* _7 V7 o/ Iour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"7 s* O: v+ @6 s; Y' \! }
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 C/ g9 {. O# r/ P
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干' A: v3 _4 f3 v( M3 W5 S$ q) Q" \* A: y0 b
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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$ C5 {! X* m0 b1 c不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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2 S/ }1 A. q4 p; A. o我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....& \6 t: J; U" V0 ~, B: S) D
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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8 U$ m! C3 x9 N+ K& J2 Y2 eYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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