Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 c* `- w4 ~. V: V
我係一個連自己都吳信的人( M) n2 L( n4 ^' n7 X' x
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢) D( N/ I5 h( m& ?2 [' j( v
道理我知道好多只係做吳到) m3 i  k/ @3 E" k  K4 N
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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* t8 l2 P9 z/ A) eNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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8 g7 |5 j2 [: {* O1 kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....+ Y( t9 L6 _! G# q
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 Q$ w" {! G! ?4 |5 e4 u我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 l2 l# E) Z- V" [0 d) l
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,+ \0 i" J5 x% D, L' c+ Q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
  K# ^6 s7 V, _7 F1 @3 j建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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8 J, |* p- c! @5 e$ C" \& L1 tWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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: F+ a& b" B/ t6 J! t8 {- N# MI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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& [2 w+ O+ l" A8 Z. S1 c0 `# E0 nLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo8 U' \2 c  _+ y0 ?/ p( F$ p5 `

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:& I7 o+ `% V9 `7 [0 g: m
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
. I/ \5 b  u' @" a) AYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 Q- G+ M1 }  R7 r6 a2 R& S) ]3 Fbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......! c: c) t  B' u; E
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it's starting because we have sins......1 t. M6 ^* U& J0 h2 U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,4 T8 R& [" M" S; |. ?. I9 Q- N
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
8 D( r" {( }/ [+ S& u5 T  c如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 c/ L8 ?9 z8 D5 U* n5 C2 q* n, ^而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~; g; y& F. h. S

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好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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& P  s' m5 E( s1 x- L) `一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...% O: Y: D% V% o

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# U% L, I( ^* E' d9 i吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
7 r; u- n3 i4 Q3 |8 V3 @' J信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,3 t0 g6 h# L* t
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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" w8 y  a% `& W: w信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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$ V$ d3 s' V& D不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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( ^5 d9 x! {  H0 N, P) k; M9 W. e我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:) D# i/ u* K) e. t( r0 x( q
.............信耶穌... ...

& ]1 r+ k$ Z' m3 v: E. jRegarding the resurrection....
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- a% j+ _6 M9 w; VActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.