Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
' Y, a* K1 `" z& m我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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1 B% j2 j$ u! A5 p% u+ a' R道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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4 e( `, S, m/ d& qNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( ^  D0 g/ n5 {+ E
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ v; ?6 b* N+ q/ U/ J- m/ `
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!/ ~: T, a1 K% O( @2 d. j
我只不過微小的基督徒...................8 e% n4 h9 P" [* d- Q1 |% Y( `
真的!!這不是反話' H2 f# g  \3 D4 B  z& }6 @7 y: r
因為我是情感比理性強的人9 K, @  {& S1 _  T8 b6 [
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
9 Z; b; E3 |) m: L$ }7 T以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,5 ?8 p4 K5 q  t8 t# l8 M" d: w( W
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." D# ~) ^4 G) H8 |+ u% D/ v
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
' k- g$ L) V* I建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?' V" n& `9 T# d9 \+ x% V

  M# j/ t# g( H8 w! c+ b. Q+ DJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.+ {2 E) F' d# \# @

# y( k, s8 L7 m/ @( Y3 O, e9 k* yLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:1 k# p5 W0 a, v9 C3 _
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
- v6 o" d" z& y& Q3 c# TYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......
" S4 l. g6 m5 r$ rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& I- ~" [, J  R( Z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
" `$ d- j4 e9 z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 k5 }1 g0 Q7 h# O/ v: B, n- F( O而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 _- i0 k. l# K) U3 @9 i
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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4 v. a. D, S, k一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,/ E' B0 w+ I/ S1 ?4 i
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法! [+ h  Y+ G7 b1 J! {" g0 y
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰.... j, Y5 m/ I6 J- z

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" H/ c. [, c" L" ~# u( {4 l. g4 A吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: q# S* t" s* k2 n- u0 o信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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0 F8 N7 N! w9 ^+ m6 m/ B我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- D6 \  p  o0 [7 g  I7 \9 V

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:: @, g0 w. ^* w- N! R$ T7 e: ?( L( a
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- ]" B7 `# B0 ?' S% N
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.