Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:4 U" k; ^' F5 @
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 [/ E$ Y7 @- m6 }
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢2 z3 e9 N. V3 q) Y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 h; z4 H6 Y$ u# u3 C9 y7 V! X
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! F& v- _: ]6 D* h! D1 G

( x  K7 J3 v6 W4 V( M$ O% L; mNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# a& n1 D% m  R  t

7 ?2 F+ F, n1 z$ l  Fmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% {- H% w& E& E: J$ i, e$ bstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!2 B1 p% D: I, Z% R
我只不過微小的基督徒...................; s! E7 z6 C  f; `* w0 |# W! T
真的!!這不是反話+ Q, k. f5 ?, o, n! j- h& G, T0 R
因為我是情感比理性強的人7 L. u' E& y! f6 d8 Q; i) a
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
* C4 l1 I& z! t; h0 _以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,( E7 K/ C. V: r7 E9 d3 `
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...) N& ^- z# b+ B
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:6 P# j8 c2 [2 @% B" M3 N: q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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- G3 F+ n! W5 K# g( b+ {What a statement we have here?
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+ n3 L1 R% Y3 z6 g# S9 l  aJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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* E) a# d% z7 b8 eI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! E3 Z/ M# A/ P; E# W% i

+ T* u/ d$ p2 g7 r! q3 Q0 F4 S: xLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 \8 g) b3 o- q- u

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( x8 M. C' ]3 |+ a! y建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"# H6 n' N. T' E
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others...../ H# j7 \: g6 H& ~3 L+ ?8 p
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
& T% I% ~( k* [" i0 isatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
3 G0 ?) f1 g* }+ `# \# hour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 L2 U( o; U) g+ ~
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; ?. ], R* J4 t0 r4 F3 E6 ~用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,9 z7 h0 S( W0 _: W
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全1 M% v$ c& {( s4 D$ t" Q0 e8 D: y( ?
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 O7 X# X0 x2 g% V( Q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~* E! @! v( k, m# e0 f
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 n/ k4 @7 j9 x0 m' U2 H8 Z. h
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 A( j$ @/ U- W: _* c  a; |& Z

8 V2 a" j  I4 G5 M一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
/ B6 j+ v. B" W! m4 _改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
5 R8 o6 @: B/ `! C7 V0 T1 p/ u美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...# p2 y1 Z9 d' `0 a$ Q
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, F' ?' B8 A3 F! t信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
: ~$ {$ k, L) }9 D看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤5 F& M* f& U. x4 `: I4 }7 Q( t
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- _" n. f) x5 c5 y( y( t
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 Q! Z2 E/ P& k3 n: h
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 O# b7 s3 q+ B, P.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....% y: R0 R& V3 A% ^, h. }
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....4 h2 U; V& W3 w& i4 V; z) j& B) W
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.