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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:3 c( Z5 }3 Y9 G( l
我係一個連自己都吳信的人; `1 F8 b0 `: G6 ~% P0 o4 }* N
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 i; v: N. P5 D
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
* V9 U5 ~7 f' W' t, @( g5 Y2 q呢D就係做人的悲哀
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6 X8 b6 ~8 [3 x1 \0 M, dNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!# Y$ G4 d2 ]# z9 {3 S1 w7 _/ F2 ?
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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: E, C8 ^+ U7 n! f! b9 g1 \struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....5 M  S- [) @+ ?! }! Y+ B# B
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
8 e' X, T+ N3 E我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 }7 \/ M" G  B8 i/ Z; V; d4 `真的!!這不是反話9 l- ?7 U$ q& c) b8 z% ~$ _
因為我是情感比理性強的人
: @6 W: W0 ~4 z9 C/ v$ d/ G- _所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
: O3 x+ B; u( u. A% O以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
0 G+ {, d, q& L! u( _在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
  o2 I  C2 w8 p0 K& g0 `建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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$ `& s& h3 X( c% {; pWhat a statement we have here?1 f' t1 ?# h( Y% [1 `. z

$ H) i  W: G' w! {3 ?Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ G( x+ Q8 T  x; V6 Q9 R
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:1 @. r1 W8 g  R, ^, i
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"! Q, r2 _1 R' N- m
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 G# F7 Z3 ~% n9 w; X, s- fbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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  \6 {5 s  G# c0 B4 C5 {it's starting because we have sins......; T9 u" F4 p3 ^1 {1 D
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us " h% w8 b( a8 O% ^# y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* @3 A% [& T9 r; P7 i; b只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 Q/ g; ]" O) K9 l3 \, p4 {6 U/ R用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% I! i; y2 E) ?1 x. P這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
; Q  B! ]! i( Q( u8 X: K如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,+ k2 @5 ]7 T. O8 i' k
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~8 }% s- k, ?4 i5 E

) \+ b! c& ]) X6 T8 A" C0 T$ P導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
: m7 _) U( Z  G# ?; M好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,# w! F- S' I# e) p: c! A' N. v

& q2 G9 c; T3 x7 o$ u4 K; X$ D' w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, q4 t6 U* Z7 ~
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法; I2 I5 X# g! f0 }
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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2 s* F' F: r# i7 G9 y5 _2 c宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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: z& m6 I8 u/ P) c2 M0 ?3 s/ B吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
  _2 ]; ]) C- K9 _信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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$ h" ?1 C9 s# ~& b; E5 P+ o& P# I以下是其他人的見解,
1 F) o8 D1 H  }) O' O看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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1 v1 N4 Z9 c) j  H' H[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 o% `, _( W: j4 H! L
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!# E) r6 q% V% }6 W6 S& h" |' \

. k, E$ O3 ?! h: @同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 D/ ]/ ~% h3 \: b+ R9 a1 a
.............信耶穌... ...
6 H$ u9 a5 i/ n2 D' {  jRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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! {) I4 |! E/ G/ k/ @You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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