Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: n$ F# F/ w, w  t% X' a我係一個連自己都吳信的人
9 Y/ ~; |0 F% Q1 d1 h/ a又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
- O+ _' Y( D$ ?' R. g/ p9 H道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 d. i; B4 R, U0 D- d1 r; [
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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$ m* Z9 S/ m1 k/ d* x" F1 d* }$ w5 zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....& }# f) H* l: M5 p

) {) T- d( d" Y1 {, A5 Cmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....+ D  o4 k% Z0 w5 \
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!; M' V2 n; Y8 l
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...) x' g2 k7 x( D: w( }, G
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
3 M, r+ z; H# `, \建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?6 i3 S, U- N8 q" B9 Y6 l

+ V: L0 A" w( n5 \. \Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ H2 {) {. i9 V6 E8 ^
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.' o9 O7 F9 |$ x5 s" \

! q* H- M( i- O: x8 TLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo6 Q0 ^( ^$ u% {# ^: |+ F

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:& d5 P# T. W% T0 Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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: c) b' h) X2 Y7 ]# I"不信也沒損失"
/ B( Z$ r+ B& V! GYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
8 T" t9 G& W- H0 ^& ^but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......., W+ S- K0 l# ~: y; K& A" V( t9 Y

7 P- M" b6 ^$ git's starting because we have sins......0 C4 N& T, R5 ]2 \' D, I
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 2 Y0 t" x0 E" |* E7 z$ ?, P
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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# e! Z7 t6 b; ]7 s5 P1 o用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* d* m+ Z0 {$ E1 C$ a$ j這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 N4 W; c3 j( e* R/ R如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,! s2 q9 i5 j# [! T% Y" o. j* Y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看," C# _0 u" C; V2 ]: Q
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,4 v. ]: O( o* Q
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 F3 T- }: s, z美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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- Z# D' P" D5 @吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
  n5 K5 ^8 c) R- k3 p1 Z# M6 V  `信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干/ Y( R# O4 P! p0 _! Q0 x! I6 C

3 E+ X6 u2 Z9 K% m. y以下是其他人的見解,/ I6 Q: I# `# U; W! T
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# C, [* @+ ?3 w0 p3 W
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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, t) ^; I2 O3 p+ j不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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* {4 X! p* R7 G我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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; L; W) O( Z7 D同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....6 p# h6 X+ M5 L% m, k$ k: x2 {
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.