Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
3 z& y9 X1 D$ v3 f1 T我係一個連自己都吳信的人: T( y) M' t% G: {. R, R0 h# J
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢- {/ x5 N8 Q2 N
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
5 [1 |, K% T2 M呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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0 \1 e' \2 y) c; kNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' t& m- y4 ~) z6 x

; l% N5 |* w7 Gstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 q  U$ p. u3 o0 z9 B, w) I1 P
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人! P; f1 Q* D0 c: }0 S  d# t
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! _! [2 b3 j; i9 i" i
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,  Y6 c  v3 v7 q; P4 y4 ^/ J+ _5 U9 N
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 u; q2 r9 a( N5 q0 g
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:. V2 d8 I4 F7 b2 s' Z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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/ S, }) k( c8 |$ i" X; p4 A$ pJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ A. E2 t' i( b2 N5 A8 D( n5 v

2 N1 g; C" |2 o# z8 b% l9 GI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.& i. p/ r! D; c! I
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:' Z; S8 n$ O/ u4 }5 e) x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 F4 g2 Q4 w4 d2 [1 u"不信也沒損失"2 [) j, {+ S- v0 r0 J& F. C
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ s1 \8 ?  Y5 P6 P3 E; Vbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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2 W2 C' Z' H' \  G8 V$ m. Qit's starting because we have sins......
' l/ E9 c4 V- ?- x: asatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 N5 \$ `5 I/ e% l  I9 ]
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
+ I% N' ~  [9 W2 z3 G只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. k' W8 l+ @4 y' ~6 C8 Z' Z) L
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! B" x1 ]: G9 n5 S
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全+ K. a+ d5 Z3 {5 W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,/ r1 W$ j5 {' p. u6 z2 C
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
& t3 z8 \9 p- E/ _好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 w& M" E6 K" t6 W3 i$ N4 i. k- q( t( E

3 I: e8 r' \2 e9 q- v+ Q3 G, l, e. t一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,* Y, T0 h6 U: b! @0 P
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法" K; b) A6 E3 {9 K# [
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
) L7 \5 b' n2 t+ s& b$ w- L7 Y信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
$ V1 P' o) P* d0 S# _) Z看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............, T  q! r" m& ]( ?" b! q1 Q6 F
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!/ P& P8 l4 ~6 a. z

. D2 D9 g7 v) E  m: X不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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0 g* h* d! d8 M) _: i5 r4 U同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
  J: Q* a7 m% G5 I3 H.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....* R3 R( n) s7 I& {

, L$ s2 p1 Q6 g4 JActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.