Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 X- C1 s: C) X$ e' B我係一個連自己都吳信的人
& @' I$ {' `& K) I. v# x. `又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 ?7 Z: \# z4 y. u# s# w道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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* N2 p8 ]1 s2 RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!9 W; F; d. k' |% I! p9 X# M

& s3 y2 l. r# O- d" t7 b7 o, NNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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0 b0 z3 U, b  S/ A, F% ]3 {mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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' g( l, w4 p5 Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
5 e$ n4 w: V3 {+ ]) Kcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!  G8 [1 c5 ~- c# d6 u8 U
我只不過微小的基督徒...................' ?  ^$ O6 I/ {# {% T4 K
真的!!這不是反話
4 V: O' A8 l2 ?因為我是情感比理性強的人6 k; B0 o, t, }. g8 s! d
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 ~! }' i) L5 ~, F' y
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 c, Z% M/ P9 c4 u2 i5 l# v: k  y+ }: d
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...: r" ]7 q" U' z! p8 ^
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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1 ~1 A: X4 n0 t3 ?7 U1 Y7 @( rJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) x! ~$ f/ D: c. s* {5 K0 U  P: V8 k. DI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 o* H- U1 {+ R" n0 m8 ~0 u

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
" T5 n  v' p  j* n  oYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
$ {# B% ?. |$ t- H1 \but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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" m9 p: E( z  A' _it's starting because we have sins......) f* C( ?/ l% \2 {
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ! ]( O) f" L' x  P3 p
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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0 M& g% H( H; S0 R2 ~" w用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,- @, [4 m9 X9 Z$ X. a- T2 _4 _- V* ^
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
" z' x7 K* I+ Y6 s* H$ m7 E6 A4 M% P( @+ i如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
8 _4 K5 c" s% F) A% Y8 D而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~6 C2 |6 F3 T" e6 O( E5 z. W
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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" Z( k* x6 F  c5 N9 ]/ v一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 L( }: ~5 x! I6 x# s6 Y5 S
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法5 ^: `/ j; a5 v0 f8 @
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...# `6 q) M, A2 G
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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5 W# C7 u9 \( K+ E3 q- o吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
9 |; P1 D3 D* F: F1 m+ P, X& C: n信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............9 G6 Q% {; u) L0 e: M% C
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 F7 T5 G: u5 |+ U
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!; A7 S5 D$ }0 U* F3 y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! S# T, z* t; N( A
.............信耶穌... ...

/ i6 P+ t' ?4 `/ |1 {$ URegarding the resurrection....0 T# C) c+ C$ R1 z7 R
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....4 Y( Y1 P3 |7 Y# n. o2 M" O" K
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.