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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:- p6 p9 I- V& A3 I
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 o- M6 l; @/ \  B3 F/ C; o2 k5 t又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ R1 F' |( R9 K道理我知道好多只係做吳到
$ W" s# G4 u& A# h8 Z3 k呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% ^+ q' b5 S- U, G5 N! z

7 S: `# @. c# U1 Z9 ]/ p8 i; O1 ?Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 E# x7 W/ h2 e0 I
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....2 o# V+ f* u$ @
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....2 L! m# Y5 Q/ a* |, [
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
+ V9 C# w5 |! @  n# Z1 S我只不過微小的基督徒...................0 w1 y, q& Z! w; n
真的!!這不是反話6 Y' R7 Y$ I4 f6 S& |, Z; h
因為我是情感比理性強的人8 q4 A! b' x1 B. e5 H; M9 V3 ]7 r
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' J# f1 @, U; r3 |$ O5 I' F% r
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,$ N1 t+ J, I  \( `6 i# S$ O" h
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...: C2 u8 k8 k6 T; G" i, R
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 E. w: x. u/ g5 T9 y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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6 C' J5 ~* o% i  ^: m. vWhat a statement we have here?( o4 Q5 {9 _9 \: w, q* i

, [3 t' j* `* h' w- fJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? * W6 T! N5 q) ~- c

" u! A2 D  |, U( o/ u" WI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.9 G) Q: T4 R6 o1 R/ o) p

5 n  q, a7 d; }5 j; U  R; DLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
9 d6 u9 ]4 U+ a2 Z! s建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"' y1 [, h4 E" M/ n2 q# ~
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" j7 @' }! j, `but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......% ~$ ?% y# l! `# n- g- ~* y

( O- j5 Z' @5 k; |7 H. yit's starting because we have sins......& V6 f& Y6 |: }& C1 O6 z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( B; e/ y0 U" q  Aour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 U3 o- [  {0 i: s, N( N( g
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 Q. @2 l' K" z" b& O5 x用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 Y7 z5 L  R# }; |( |% w這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全$ w: o- J: ^6 Z  u3 m1 Z3 w7 `
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& ?# z) \, j# D4 e! e
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~+ n( b6 W( n/ D/ N8 j! M
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,) ]6 C. |& y' W
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' X' q7 ?, P. ~5 O4 a: N& K
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: y& q% r0 {7 O) t9 r. |改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: G: S. z+ ~: m1 f  d( W4 Q美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 H4 t! {& }5 }3 I1 I- D/ R
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! z# w/ F8 @- x! \. D8 Y
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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; |. H. D" v8 v+ `/ Y" o  }以下是其他人的見解,
8 |+ W* E# m: N9 k8 ]看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤! ^# N" @& \. t% E* t: G8 {2 g. J% F
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!5 I$ d/ Q1 P' o

& }7 \0 ^4 J& W6 C, Z3 b6 J2 }- w不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 z6 s6 }- S( Q9 l0 e

6 K& ]1 ^6 O+ \: L# o我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ d. e  B' B% O
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
* f. l8 B% d( F.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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; \1 e( J7 i( B+ r* b6 ]" EActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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0 r( ^/ _; U' m% e- a& _You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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