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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
! C# q7 T# K/ X- g" Z( x0 w: A我係一個連自己都吳信的人
  k- {, F1 n* `3 p) x又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' [7 A+ u* f, f# D  F) b' g6 g+ u$ }
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
( N  h5 c- M7 A( f呢D就係做人的悲哀
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/ R) P2 }8 J$ ^0 i( L2 rNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) r# v( m6 C8 }; i4 C/ i

  R, |9 Q, V2 N1 Z3 V( wNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...., x0 p7 Q, o1 C

) X  ~' T9 m. m5 [( R! A; {mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ J5 k# |4 p6 M6 {/ I. `# ]. ?5 n
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  b) v- a3 n9 Q$ m( n" v. Ycheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!  s( |6 u3 S+ _4 X" X6 h
我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ r# R9 _6 W1 |9 O5 ^
真的!!這不是反話6 V9 s. ]8 `. w
因為我是情感比理性強的人5 T$ g# w* `$ U: m) o6 T
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
2 }0 m, N3 P: e' {5 o以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
0 z8 }& w7 G' Z% p7 g在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
2 ]6 K' T* K7 B) J正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:( T5 a8 O# `$ x& N
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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! M" W# f) S# K) VJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? . _3 E5 O; o# t. g3 z. @# u
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.5 T2 ~% \- ^7 i7 B2 n  @* X

% G* k9 `/ L# b* w  O. y# CLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo( H4 B' @5 n* V+ S6 `

2 j$ V1 t* q8 s. w0 u/ g:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:* h& g8 O/ |  X0 @, y# p* T9 O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
/ f% |7 Z; P# D* K/ w3 e+ L& ZYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
2 _5 k( G- u$ E. Z' R  Z( ^" Lbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......6 U- b7 y- I% |( j7 F3 P$ M% x

. z) w6 }) ?) fit's starting because we have sins......9 y/ J! A1 N- M. c5 Z7 ?
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 P9 M! X# I; S! o6 c1 B' g' gour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) {% x' g$ i, u) M只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,9 P! S  Q6 |5 v% q& w8 o: D
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' d% K( L/ }+ Y2 O這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
& ?$ p! w8 ]7 D如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,( y! [3 S5 }0 M) l7 Z6 N
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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: x1 I) W! p$ F0 \, z7 b" F導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( ]* C+ r, n% I4 Z. B! X. ~/ A好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ K) T9 J. ]) b; V# Y7 y
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ D0 S: s, ?. w: m' W+ i! E美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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( d0 c; S  W4 h吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
! f( R! ^0 A+ h( A信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
7 M8 d% t3 v9 |' R( I2 b5 x+ x看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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; c$ b1 i3 [/ W4 ~信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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' D3 I+ L) I3 T+ ^' C2 D/ U8 p不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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  Z- ?) h0 X- O9 p, y8 L我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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3 R2 b. a. o7 C) [6 q: O同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
: d( u& |% p2 f# a.............信耶穌... ...
2 x" u- y7 [% r/ i+ m! I: l1 D& VRegarding the resurrection....
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7 e: U2 D+ S7 |* p, TActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...., m  L# a. r: B! V+ r- q

3 C2 k. p* \* _: e. o7 C) YYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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