Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
) U; E- j* ?0 m( l我係一個連自己都吳信的人
  V( v( m1 r$ C  i6 i又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢0 f( V" W: x8 u! g- {
道理我知道好多只係做吳到" l6 k/ Z9 \( K2 [- a
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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5 Q' o: m& H) \1 l; i# m+ yNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! F* S' R' I, b, |' B4 s  M. X
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ q& n9 z$ q' D7 i8 W我只不過微小的基督徒...................
( a- H8 P# a8 b6 s真的!!這不是反話
5 h8 \$ V4 E5 o1 h1 E因為我是情感比理性強的人" _& q& @0 B7 Z" i
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
) X% A# N9 w' K% R! p# ?+ `以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% Z4 ~7 l' W5 X2 `  m, ~# h在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." y3 O% G4 p1 U% L8 ?  Q5 G, E
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:# v& y" _7 U/ P) \' n( l
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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; |# Q9 l  a7 Q& l5 U3 @3 C3 wJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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2 z3 Q, l  V& [7 J' eLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 r- P) i6 s+ P1 _# h: l! ?/ w. T/ m
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:7 N2 E" L9 {' C# h
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  V: R, `8 v9 v# v"不信也沒損失". N# Z$ y" B7 R
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....; a+ F5 \& D* r8 f- f! H
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......5 B* S  e, o+ U) f

$ m, R: K3 S8 y# b0 c9 [7 X( Lit's starting because we have sins......$ o0 H8 J7 \; G! y$ l2 v. D
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
- a1 p; F) b# a! Wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"( C* o3 w' y* p
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,0 \. N6 @5 K. ~! o  m
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 y5 z" k' I' b/ V
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( v9 H3 U* X, p9 r1 L' V
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 Q. Q% d1 H: ]( ?) }' f而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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4 z+ M9 ?* n( s# z, a; G' W+ i導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
' `6 V! ~( E/ t) y. G* I好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,; P9 `" d3 m, K3 O3 z

, r4 ^. x$ I+ \/ G2 D0 x7 U一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...* _) \1 W* E5 \. n

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,+ e, L9 P) M" Q2 [% {% F9 z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!1 y- s: M! Z% J! B: M
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!1 m- m% o* u% a7 O- w6 N

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
% B. @9 s3 v1 k, q.............信耶穌... ...

1 }  H! T5 q: r7 ERegarding the resurrection....  |+ a- U- p1 ]! B8 ]

3 t  m& @- I0 F1 W5 `Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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5 r  M9 `* O3 }5 a9 V' CYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.