Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:$ I5 x+ u3 Y) Q1 s% Z, Y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
$ {  _4 b! P& E+ M: ]又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* V4 Q. \7 ]4 ^% V1 K
道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 X- n$ l  M. l3 W, e! q( `
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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4 G% r- m7 m1 h2 Z$ ^. x6 @1 e8 GNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!9 i7 h: d+ K7 s$ V4 p( `6 k  k, ^

/ g* _; A$ ^5 Z$ ?" G1 SNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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* s1 b5 g' G5 kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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& v; X/ ^$ f+ L0 d1 p0 \3 V  x! wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 l/ z/ V9 A! z: Z
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ `- \6 S0 f+ e1 h. r我只不過微小的基督徒...................0 S3 g) }6 B* q) ]1 h+ R
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
3 X4 _5 `) D3 R. D3 [以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,4 Q5 M$ ~2 t( B, t, ~; v( m/ S. M
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...- e0 X4 X0 X) P% D
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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/ r, V3 ^" t- x  E' c! J4 TWhat a statement we have here?( s7 j$ a  V& g& b
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 @4 \2 R/ u+ X# ?# s: F  b6 h+ Z; c

0 f/ S5 e# {: S. h( X) pLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo. a8 `* s6 T" k" V- g$ O2 f& E
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"; B5 _. K, I. a0 o3 l5 O8 J
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....9 ]3 C% d; l" u2 w
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"/ t$ o! _) @! f6 W) f/ ?8 n
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 d% v0 N7 m& V7 q
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,  D- N& E: m5 z( q
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 y5 E2 E2 D/ B7 d如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ c) [. w2 t5 M$ D$ E! f' e而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,9 Q8 I, J' {- c; y1 v" l) v. s
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,1 O  H4 O4 t5 F5 M) v* L; d
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法' [; u  y7 L8 z& |
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具& j3 R5 y2 Z0 b+ \  Z9 Z
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: f' o% [0 _! {8 a) D& @( |
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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8 A7 @) R( S0 L6 `* V% Q; a以下是其他人的見解,
; L3 Q# R; b$ H: {看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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  i+ U% p+ i8 t/ p# ?信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 I) `& Y# @6 T
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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7 S# |0 ?6 ?- ?; J同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
" G3 o  _$ N# z8 d.............信耶穌... ...

# H% N- B$ x! C) z9 \Regarding the resurrection....
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+ x$ m* ~' ~9 `8 n  X1 rActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 h4 e  ~) A3 J6 N5 _; b
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.