Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 J# W5 ?9 U; ]0 ]5 [- B8 {
我係一個連自己都吳信的人: {' @9 F4 i6 d7 f
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
# E! H/ @' s6 m! U/ }! [9 E道理我知道好多只係做吳到' ?. I- K5 ^! x* n
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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+ A/ e6 W! J! t. pNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' L8 L' {- W9 a
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 }+ e  v, {5 [1 I' Z  A4 a  P
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
7 _# I: A$ a% E6 \3 X8 ycheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
% L( D( l# g9 s- }% ?  y6 C$ T我只不過微小的基督徒...................
/ w* K0 l; C- a5 V! v7 ^真的!!這不是反話
8 f- H  Q" K$ k1 W7 j9 \( v- x* f因為我是情感比理性強的人4 V( e) o0 n, C& ~' F, T5 K
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,& P. }9 _" e  \+ K1 g. U
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:* N2 l0 d/ B3 _* Y% P
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?2 j0 o9 U- }) j; ~% d

' b6 G8 N, y8 wJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) e0 p1 \, c. G' g% ]3 |* }: O
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# t% y3 C2 Y8 R1 i8 o9 e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"& N/ O. [, ]7 C  Y4 B2 k/ g, E
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....; n8 V- {# Z$ i  q
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
% b- x0 o4 e% s$ I9 bsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 X; `9 y. h7 `$ W
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% d* G- _6 Q0 x5 r這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; v- Q  _& G; I: C
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,( B* [' n, \& t
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
, P# O+ m; t: U( i好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,. `" h4 M6 }( l' e6 Z

$ x- E, w, V+ c& o% i# e- z一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
- ^8 k& b! N4 |- C: M+ S9 r改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: k, I6 P: r. {% |3 H' U# T美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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1 W8 Y1 {  t6 ?* _! {宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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+ ]; x/ F# J2 S; V吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,, e6 H* |( K( L( g2 D; Q0 Z% y
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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4 k% d- S1 o* |8 T" J以下是其他人的見解,
3 k/ t* S' Y* p5 U看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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& ]' Q, c+ ~0 U) k2 W: r5 D- D( B我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ }6 L/ ]$ ?' |

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:: r: ~# C& w7 r) }
.............信耶穌... ...

2 m* L7 q& w# FRegarding the resurrection...." s. v$ W: L1 }  A0 |2 t

7 u( Y3 C, E/ v8 JActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.