Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:  \% q! j6 ]* o( |- L$ t
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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* Z* x+ [% ~& A7 _道理我知道好多只係做吳到' H% {% E+ A* S& O. o/ d( X
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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4 S) |1 I! k6 k& n/ e3 s0 Y% NNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ ^& n4 @6 s0 p

5 m) k& {# M' v! ~1 xNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....$ D, J% @' @( W2 e; L' L
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ z; i; r, F+ c; b0 Istruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 k2 X, E% [5 x0 u# ?8 y2 p7 n1 Mcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ A5 u& k( ^. {- x: k; x# Q我只不過微小的基督徒...................
$ t. [6 b# ?+ M真的!!這不是反話
6 k6 z$ A/ V2 ]0 D5 S2 ^( ?  b因為我是情感比理性強的人- o% |1 l& V+ n/ ?" J9 K) V) R
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
- z; Q0 Y# M+ v* O以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% y; M+ ?% u) g8 M4 N: I在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 d, r* _9 Q( X/ i6 C" `
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:. A  _# L6 D, h( Q3 Y& F
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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3 H2 n0 i1 s  v: E9 uLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:: R2 t( R7 s, j. g; n, a1 i  D7 s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
" w  b+ |, U2 qYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
3 W3 ^; T5 {- Wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
5 d# Y% F& B, h# N; x! nsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us / B6 s: w$ X. h
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"/ w% G: m. J+ H+ g- k
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,8 @. h9 E* X* ^
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,8 n7 b5 d7 S) U2 W
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 Q9 ?( m3 @5 r6 u; h% w如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
" g( ~5 d  {7 b3 X8 T# p' @而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  U1 ^" R. ?2 [: |' K0 _
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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: J, V0 Q% |$ c/ L( b; @9 L: {5 B一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
' u1 C0 Z+ @# ?  p0 j! J改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  Q, |/ P5 a0 U& N8 A" H
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...0 s' X, f5 \/ Q
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具) W3 |2 H% r8 S
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
  W, i( I! @" _信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干. P& x! c% o, x, C% W9 Z2 k
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以下是其他人的見解,0 z2 r1 Y8 k8 Q& F/ _6 P
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤3 k/ V. q. Q) q4 R" Q; d
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............( r$ B4 j0 o2 G1 c5 ]
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!9 A  D) U/ S8 H  F8 q8 u/ `

9 m% r1 I3 O. ~  @% j' k不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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( T! ]+ L7 o/ D$ \# @# c. J' U8 i我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!8 K/ g, l, z( w/ F6 d

& X% Z1 e: f# i5 z同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
' `% @8 d* ?1 P* h0 x$ A, f4 P.............信耶穌... ...

5 {8 B9 J( C3 zRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: U. u! d) t5 O+ z7 L
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.