Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
7 w8 r$ ^7 B9 F2 U; _  ^  h我係一個連自己都吳信的人
& h8 G0 E& K6 u! _又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* ]) ]2 {. U% s
道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 W  r* g* i1 _
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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5 ~4 q/ y7 r. KNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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9 O) i( c6 Y0 Q2 t7 U2 Smr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....3 F( _  Z, l: l( u; N1 E$ p
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
5 D$ p+ g; Y0 ]0 Fcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!$ z: ]8 y1 y6 n9 J# g/ V6 [8 D
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! E& I6 y; e5 z% {: I$ j2 P
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
7 ?- ]3 \* C  O. k% L在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ E5 y7 s+ U! A0 Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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, b/ j3 g- P) W, P6 EWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
& Y- R: \$ k" E- G/ d4 o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
$ u( L  f1 o0 d" c9 `% wYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....7 j9 k! H) R7 L5 W
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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" N) d* }1 {- n+ H5 rit's starting because we have sins......
1 P3 X+ y+ n7 ^. Asatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
$ z, H1 f/ V2 a' O; aour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,4 W- X) k$ A" v7 j0 i8 N1 D& ?8 l
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全+ ]* H" ?/ @+ f) b( j
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,8 Z% K1 g5 f. p" b' p; K5 N. i
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,5 d! C5 o& O2 G9 F3 S0 Z: \
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
0 ~  g0 F8 m2 p0 n改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法# D! A! U- k4 M5 T0 f% N
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ C& W9 {5 `& [宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
8 k( V5 v* @' y% F信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干0 E& @  [8 ?. {4 H1 L% m

3 p. l, W! R5 v+ S7 z! F, K, l以下是其他人的見解,7 o  k. \( b3 G: r8 M, X
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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$ J, B$ {- O7 [# B" c, q不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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- k  l" c+ ^7 v我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, v% G- q9 [/ `( ^: L; O1 C6 S- @
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....; D$ I0 W2 a, d! `  C& J% c

) i8 _8 {2 Q1 cActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....' `/ }7 K; H% E& T- q- r4 b
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.