Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
2 G; n* v" @" _' A- v我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 ]! M4 f' f1 |' l/ F* x, e: m8 B又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
* V$ O) O  N( N: D+ E. V; b道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" }2 r: J2 O: j" B9 d呢D就係做人的悲哀

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8 g: o# V- a! n1 H* O# X/ mNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!7 C( i0 T9 \$ M! M

3 e6 {5 G6 Y$ jNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# W: F- r, Z* l& d$ ]( X: ~

! r3 R) P! ~/ L0 v' ]/ N# vmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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3 v4 k- b0 p' y  U# wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....: z0 @0 n& r$ p' k& ?7 G+ w5 T1 \* [
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
" m9 t; J( F/ O- x8 c0 v我只不過微小的基督徒...................
/ P7 ^& l8 p- K  b真的!!這不是反話
5 s8 h3 |. c+ E( e1 A; ]4 J因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
2 v  C& ]* P; P. t2 o7 I以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,( n8 A# A' X- s& g; a( M
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 a. q& S9 {4 H3 S/ ^. L, m
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 7 d( ~0 h2 M& A2 Z! k3 }
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- B" I. r$ \! H5 s& j9 b7 b

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
4 z1 p# C- P5 e建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"$ O# q/ U; Z# `5 h
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....2 V& x$ J5 `% r% G5 K
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
7 ~5 }3 c! _& K# B  usatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 i6 G0 N1 e" ?" l& Y) m1 s3 Xour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% s& Q1 d( j2 Q3 j7 t9 B2 k
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,$ l/ k$ Y  D- h
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
1 ]1 A8 V" |- F( |這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全6 v* s) I3 H# D9 V! R- S
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
" {$ W8 x, K+ q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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; s, p$ o5 v) V% e% ?* P: Q1 N導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,( ]9 h9 M0 \; p# D9 d( A
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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/ Y% @) S. N7 K$ D一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
. f+ z, t3 R# ]7 w% t( b改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 U" S( P! V& y" v9 I" k美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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3 S) m* ]7 m) h8 t$ O7 r, x8 i吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ G  L5 |3 f- I) o: O! c
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干. x0 R8 F% h+ r

& Q6 ]% c5 S5 o" Z6 s/ Z以下是其他人的見解,0 D1 S6 Y0 I. _  a3 a1 y. f
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!: K# k2 Q, i. [& ]& b  X# g+ S0 L
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!2 m2 S: G& E/ v- b9 q

+ K* x' _0 P6 X  L7 O; p* |: A9 `7 o+ u我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!4 B& v9 u$ x& C; G) v; O0 u

9 \/ L3 t5 O/ M5 a5 K- d# Q( G7 L同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:3 P2 Y2 \" E2 J" I1 d4 `) a
.............信耶穌... ...

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" X! r; E% P& q9 AActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 Y( e  L( @$ b9 Y# ?* T) p
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.