Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 F. b0 O2 o. [$ N- J7 s
我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ _  `( `" s+ G) W
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% y. I% ^1 K% Z道理我知道好多只係做吳到! D4 D4 L3 L% G. A' [
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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0 R( |5 U0 C$ @Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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3 F/ n8 b' M$ F  H1 d$ U+ W' [mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....; I5 O% ~1 U, f- k6 c5 A' @

; V9 F/ E+ ?6 {, X! D" B) I7 Wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  M& [, z4 P; s6 Ncheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!) v) ^4 g, }. f/ ~
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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. i' o/ V, s( v' {$ C, t! m因為我是情感比理性強的人. u0 B) J/ ^. r  V* j6 I# h- l
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,, _2 a# D  t) y
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  V6 J, q8 \6 a在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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' c  c2 n: g/ V- E' [8 ^1 FWhat a statement we have here?" n  L3 |! x7 |$ h7 U, H6 \. p

0 q) o: h3 b  }8 O+ A* KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread./ S  e4 C) a- w1 q8 x& f
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo7 A% p2 p9 [" p8 g

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0 S4 K/ c: S/ U[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( x1 t6 L( A: d* e& K1 E! d建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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6 ]( r- J/ w, P( C$ t"不信也沒損失"& g0 g! \4 d% @6 ~; O
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......+ E' O' ]" k2 c
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ! I' L( y9 c5 v2 J7 t
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"5 }7 n0 u9 I2 O' d( b# T
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,9 E" W, ^/ F5 [5 J
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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1 T! x" T# z6 [% a0 c: x4 \% @9 ^如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,/ l# E8 \7 Z% W3 w/ c" N1 f
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~& v; O, }) k$ Q" g
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
' B3 N+ R' W; i好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,/ F0 L7 G) J3 s$ J7 l& [
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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7 z9 ~3 J! ?+ x0 u0 D美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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5 t. y7 \& J5 W1 Z  H3 |吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 u' C5 x- Y6 ?% T' s% X
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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; s7 x* G  f" N* X7 n. `- y; G以下是其他人的見解,* l9 l; u* B8 o/ g" b  W
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤1 r# F* Q. N7 c5 L1 q
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 `7 D" g. T  G! g# w4 f3 }信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!( I& x2 W: e, ]
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!: \. t- `5 Q+ W1 q

" r: c6 h7 E" h1 Y3 |0 I1 O我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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! H" t! \- Y: K+ k+ u2 L0 g同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 n3 X8 T; k. i- R+ y8 p* i1 w
.............信耶穌... ...

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+ K( l5 L, O6 AActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ y2 D, c% t7 Z6 r& d
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.