Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 a  R; Z! [' m4 [我係一個連自己都吳信的人3 ]: z* E4 V7 Y8 l- k' o9 \
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
4 {9 E. r; X! a6 M道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ a) B* E8 ?+ n1 {
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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/ f) z* ?7 l+ `1 S) BNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!, u' P6 Q  u/ Q6 q: G

& I& \% B" [# n, o# WNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 m- M/ Y! o; `, K$ Y

* I+ D- V9 d# ~4 P+ X6 l/ ]struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!% r6 G& V: W( }: B: x+ z
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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' R7 G1 m- T5 E, P/ N# u因為我是情感比理性強的人
5 E2 `; i: ~) I8 M9 o9 ]3 D% l1 Y; I所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 T$ D8 f$ o4 g5 c3 L6 r
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據," S0 J# {2 U7 [2 a. q: E: l* L" _
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." c- b7 }  X$ b9 ^5 W
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
, ~) c( n0 \8 p9 N建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' O) W$ o9 i( w; l' h% N7 fWhat a statement we have here?, P$ ~. {: w4 M# `# |. r
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:. m2 U: ?( H4 A$ Z' z, I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失": o) I1 A* F" z7 {
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 _( [( s2 e7 p  P6 s( bbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# f8 }( E) z. [4 F4 V# G( S
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it's starting because we have sins......
! v$ s1 m7 ?0 r4 X* J9 Csatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 \' q- e$ P, N) Tour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") v& X, F, t( u" Y: N! b
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 V: E$ r% ^/ G' q9 o  b1 m! G" `用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& W2 y+ d# T3 G) e8 a1 n+ v. j/ U8 g這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 j: R" Q1 d0 ^! s& [; E/ @如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,3 t: v5 Z; m) r7 }0 k
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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; v5 Z. U6 o; Q' k% W6 \導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! a4 O4 }/ p5 r6 q1 ]% P: y好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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; o& Q( E, `3 t. q  T. B+ ^一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,* s7 \+ V% S, |9 U9 `
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法' o* C& y/ Q- b: c% M' P
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...+ M: Q. J, N  ]/ K* {

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,5 s0 Y8 R$ v: s, E. G' m7 [8 I0 j  B: q
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............! }2 K9 R7 x4 `6 q6 Q+ ~( H& {
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& B+ N+ C& R0 Q- n% Q6 }/ J

2 e9 f$ |/ p% ^+ c# k不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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. L, {4 |4 `4 l我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:6 j/ q" W6 L$ n1 J$ m
.............信耶穌... ...

1 ~$ X+ n& ?4 T! V7 ~- M0 m0 s0 ]Regarding the resurrection....
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+ a9 h5 F% z$ L& q( iActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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5 `% P4 }3 r& v! ?3 OYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.