Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 K; t% ^6 p/ V; Q% l4 B2 ?. L
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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0 |' Y  F( g& C, j道理我知道好多只係做吳到- {8 E/ {' Q0 P* F6 S0 n
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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7 G; |2 z) m/ s- s  g$ GNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...." E& S( |! L/ _

! `; k* o4 d# B4 T  O- gstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
$ {! ~8 [9 {* b# X$ Vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
. R% M. |7 E6 Z& E. \我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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' @. S* p9 D: t& m因為我是情感比理性強的人2 c! W1 [6 w' O/ h- s, n
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
/ ~: a9 b8 N+ T2 E6 U7 o! ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, [$ D. B/ X; B. p2 ^- K
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
$ a1 R8 ^! w8 q- Y- S正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:! B& B; O! c+ v4 t2 i5 S# [/ x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?" E, z0 z  `. Y/ Q( H2 Z. u

+ a: u8 D/ q4 f! d; G# I$ Y) ?Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? & |% d6 n* ]- o  g! k2 o/ O, }+ u# f
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) H& w! r' t9 \
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
" i7 {$ J9 I7 p" _( D8 b建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. ~. l) c: ~: n7 P' D% T"不信也沒損失"! ]  V" ~+ X5 @, @* y
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....( m  {. R# @9 l6 A% I5 O" t
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 z0 v; D; _% N8 R
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it's starting because we have sins......# x, P6 g) r  W  g2 Z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,9 I: l4 }- R( T; q7 Z( L; B$ B
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
4 I, y4 j+ l- n1 V* d$ s% y如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," {5 s5 @7 b9 r9 }5 d- F
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 H) t: ^2 `) W/ }  I8 |$ I1 F

" p2 {( D, B5 _4 ]# [導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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! A8 P4 ?0 J1 _3 T! T% N# e一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,# r5 F+ j: n% q7 |
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法, r" A4 S+ c- N0 N$ K8 p- h1 t
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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' L' ]; I4 F0 ^1 Q  {) F  Z吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( T: K* r" i- c& Z信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............; b# W5 H; _# K/ ^9 p" r6 n
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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+ z* v6 Z) u4 E, h3 u不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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, k% w2 J  ~: g, G9 d我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!# W# G3 j' ]/ D5 n
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.