Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 O/ B8 h. I% P7 |: v7 B
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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/ F; V7 l4 M% [: `8 g6 m3 c1 p: G道理我知道好多只係做吳到
( r5 X1 g- [3 K& }+ L呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!1 Y5 z# w+ s' T& O" r% H
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....& G2 E" j8 m/ }4 W3 Z4 [
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....8 f' u: D) x+ q' N( \5 z

7 x  o! \! |* x0 X5 ]2 b( [) O% Gstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- E! m1 T0 ^9 f$ Q% y
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
' r1 O) H8 B' i3 R我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 n+ P  T* {; @
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- ~. C" I  p% E( ^8 i
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
, @) Y: Z6 _: {: ~9 s2 h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' B, B5 J+ N$ t& }% E0 {; y! _5 lWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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- K2 j. m. k+ vLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo( }7 C4 T1 f" H$ ^/ @$ z8 S* A- O
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:3 I" k; A9 h6 V/ D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
. M$ h6 X; ?' |% o+ vYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....% g& i' k/ l; s9 K9 W% @
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......." H& e' H  _% U) n; C2 `3 r4 S6 x
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it's starting because we have sins......; W5 `6 ^+ h/ I3 c2 P* d' g- K1 d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us % b0 D& r/ M; K& R6 s( t2 {! Q5 @7 L: `
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
  `9 D$ u4 k' ^4 G1 V7 e. n+ m只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,- s# x' k2 a" G7 b- ?8 X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( v1 ?; J! u0 N/ R- t; K' @, J這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
9 ^5 r  }. h4 W- K3 w) z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 P: T7 `2 p6 u/ N* }" A而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~: ?5 s* P+ O/ @6 k! l

; X1 X7 ~  a" D' L! v導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 {% E, o% ~) x& I1 l; s, z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家," t9 W3 ^) H$ x+ p5 y& s! R6 C  X
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法, V% s; @/ M# F: n
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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& b6 i% U5 Z/ E; b4 }4 I: p+ l6 \9 K吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, K7 V. s$ a$ M; i信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
8 z. C- ?- I( U$ v3 j看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 S3 K" H) ^" v" a1 f

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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 f7 ?" W- S) ^0 m.............信耶穌... ...

9 ]  }! w: o, P" X2 mRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 }( m& B; @+ o0 @2 i; A' BYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.