Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
2 B& L1 u6 F# l$ r1 d# J& v道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" g, j2 l% x& o7 S6 o& t* v呢D就係做人的悲哀

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8 [5 w" ]5 M0 S1 J1 {" RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; t4 p4 c2 P% U* s
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 ~1 e( C7 d% g6 }7 f; A1 icheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話' i5 \: F% D6 U
因為我是情感比理性強的人5 ~& H! d+ e4 X& Z* i% u0 p3 {
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, C2 U; l8 M7 U; ?0 o' A以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 X& A3 u( u5 d: @, y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 s4 _0 z( a. V
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:8 w) d1 ?2 p8 ]/ ]
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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) y& z; g. q0 H$ d" h$ VJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " A+ O/ \& [0 E5 r
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: I' V2 @, K$ z/ w. d' M: u  W

: R" w: ]0 r9 c- DLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ ~3 r/ V' W  u' M

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
: l5 \" l: H; [建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
9 d, E3 w) `3 p) x& ^! BYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 s! l4 ~% a/ @but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......) e, X- ]8 Q& K
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
, s1 d+ Y$ A# x3 W1 K8 ?/ D只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; e& e0 R" R2 G) {; K, e+ ^- z用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,( M9 Y" r, Y* H5 u  c" s* W, ~$ k
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; ]# ]2 ?& ?7 a5 G8 [
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ J. B4 t4 {4 c而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  m9 N' I; x" P/ i' H+ Z% Y6 X
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 e+ P5 m5 c: X1 K/ M
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
8 f5 t# c: h9 a/ @& X& }* V美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具& ^0 @* j2 n7 K6 Q9 M0 b
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,% ?1 t- Z; r$ g% m: |& T/ e- M
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- I7 S( s/ Y3 l& ]

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
( E: v1 P) @$ `- L# H  y.............信耶穌... ...

& f, i; I2 R5 g. V* X7 t& z1 lRegarding the resurrection....
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/ M  B% i/ v6 MActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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& y, `! `8 S0 O5 x; aYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.