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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
' p# w' E4 R3 g! }, w- M我係一個連自己都吳信的人5 E# e. N; G" T
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
  y( A; |: w6 u6 m$ {4 U道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 T. z7 P- j5 Z* ~  Z( x. H' S9 a6 S
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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! {) }4 F/ b# N( jNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% G% C  Y4 M, i% p& {& V

0 {/ I5 e3 z: d# I; E0 ENobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....3 X& Q4 x* y6 d" [

4 p  q. ~& a2 |7 c2 m/ T  Kstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 P# {+ H% @! r% @2 _  Icheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
& s5 L4 x$ j& k6 T8 F! e' B+ P9 v- Z我只不過微小的基督徒...................
6 O. v' K) c4 R) N# [) A5 l+ A真的!!這不是反話6 R8 B+ R! l3 F
因為我是情感比理性強的人8 H8 f- z, }2 Z+ U' ~& U
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,* a# l2 n* o2 q& j9 @* j" r& o/ z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
" `) Z* L5 X. L6 C. x: N  D在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ j5 y, v( j  i, T
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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7 m0 J5 D3 j( f$ y$ H8 P; a1 |! yWhat a statement we have here?+ b1 Z6 k! e$ m0 p4 S! U, g; s
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? - d: s4 K( k$ F' }

  ?2 L& \: j6 |8 _/ sI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 C3 a- y/ x6 [- b- J

) A2 P( t/ n5 z4 m! I8 ZLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( x' T4 [: i" P" b! G& z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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* R0 D; j3 L$ w1 Q"不信也沒損失": ]5 ^5 e% c/ f/ t+ v
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......3 P$ M/ y2 t/ t7 w4 _0 @
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ' F0 |5 m$ _1 O1 s
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* F8 d0 u3 E: z) X4 e, f# }6 y/ p只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
2 _  U' }9 |8 O; i用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: F3 a1 ^7 e$ M2 q  V
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
; _% ~6 I' v( y) i如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
5 ~( P  s5 w  G8 ]6 N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 S: V- ]* ]# V* m+ a4 L- T1 |# g  k

0 s7 ^4 t  @, s- w! K# S8 {, j) ?導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
4 s7 d/ C4 I' a6 G; d7 i( s好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,) P- j% U! L. ~* v
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
# [; q& u; }0 N( K/ F美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 C9 \( V" K1 g! M+ P) K8 h% J
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具% p4 H& Z1 b# x5 ^, \

0 g- f" z9 a: K0 M吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,9 t% [, i# Z: e6 T- Z2 s* a
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干; l4 w. {. x: q9 Q4 @  Y' N

  m1 c( n# U' L, a! P以下是其他人的見解,$ M( _2 p7 C0 z$ k. i
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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. L- }" [9 {5 r[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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/ G9 ~/ t6 g& ~& O# ]! X' e信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!9 T2 Y# O3 u" G; l

5 E/ W( z- P0 O/ M6 g1 k. P3 `不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
. y  d0 t0 r; z: M' z: \.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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  `- O( C) r3 g1 k/ ]. a/ V& QActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." n/ n5 [" n' }) W( `
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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