Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:2 T$ P, e0 p, J0 p5 t
我係一個連自己都吳信的人3 E- J, }. R9 g4 ^+ v# d
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
! |' o$ C* |9 U, g, q) R道理我知道好多只係做吳到
0 @' `% p7 |# Z, e% J8 H" g呢D就係做人的悲哀

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# p, ]8 }0 W, a6 ^7 e( \) E6 ]  iNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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, k$ O4 \) K- m3 CNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' E% Y# ?4 D, |

' P) u. |$ |8 W2 j; a+ g' {. xmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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. M' E2 l/ V9 Z4 ^7 wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
/ f) b! }# _0 U' F, }& `* t' Mcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 q8 k+ @2 c  o- m
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
6 y8 D  v& a+ l0 @# ~真的!!這不是反話
2 e& a% Z3 r( [" E" u因為我是情感比理性強的人9 r) g( P( M* ?
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 N2 V0 E6 _$ x
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
: H. ~; L  B; P0 d" \在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; }& p5 \* W$ v" u$ z" o4 @3 D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?2 F# X6 U1 g9 f3 U' o# q  n) {

# `* R. y0 v" @  P% m5 [Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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; B- G5 s& I# zI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.  @, ]* G! s) ?$ f1 D7 ]  b

% Y- \* c1 @  z1 W8 XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo# N: [6 q/ P+ U+ i6 }2 |5 E
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ o9 B% `6 ~( O+ X建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! X2 B$ w' O! z1 W"不信也沒損失"
# B# b+ u2 v+ J; R- O4 D1 N. K% TYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
# y; y; L! y' h4 W6 Ebut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
) Q/ E2 ^' d4 V: O' i4 Dsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
" L. z" S3 h2 Q7 q" ^' x* Dour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
/ c' e% E5 @0 L5 W7 T* B  y只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
7 y& C0 D$ U( M8 k" d用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 T1 ]: B) e0 L2 g$ n; @' I/ {8 K
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
" N+ {6 x7 S. o  x# b如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 k% ]4 w9 B) S1 S而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~) A& J. I& ]% R3 l
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,/ q" K  f2 o( |% @- \
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,3 l0 P9 C% Q% e5 \4 O' Z3 L
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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
$ ]1 j8 _, k9 I. x' `美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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; [4 o7 O. b$ ~* W5 z3 u; C吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
3 h- n4 A' q9 r& A+ O1 ?+ `3 ?信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干0 A' N% A3 S" j

/ L" n" p" J! U7 a# [/ E以下是其他人的見解,+ o6 U1 [( d1 ]( E
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!0 `5 a! f* O5 h8 C

; y3 r) V- K6 p9 s7 O9 p不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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# X% n. i7 z" S. A" ~我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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- e7 N0 Y$ \7 N: y% [- ]2 M同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
6 E% ]% |' K/ Z% }  i$ C. k' u# d.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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, R1 u- E" {( FYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.