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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
( C: h8 {' Z0 e3 l3 A我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到# M7 B2 e: Z6 A3 h
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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( l# `) k) y3 P2 C# s; u% `Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!5 _$ }2 V5 ^  w5 l% w: D7 J( {

2 Z, m& u7 n5 @# aNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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0 ]# d: }0 U) _* Jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....2 W/ k) ]$ M8 A/ r
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....9 D! `6 P* e$ r' @4 [6 I! Q
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!9 h: t6 ]! j% y& u1 A( p
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人1 {% i. t+ }" ^0 j+ j- S4 m
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 x# `5 B7 W( r+ f
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,  S* A7 o$ g; s3 _& R( a( T
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
" G2 k* E/ t$ Z& X; R6 H: I建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?3 c. @1 P) ?7 z- C4 u6 t
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? % c9 w' B3 b) G$ ~' `* I- E; b4 J

3 X( D+ o& f% b$ `* I2 hI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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! W- j& u1 l& y4 @Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# A+ Q. i. h; }2 L/ [, |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"# d, r% m* [% ~$ Q- O5 o
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
- g1 k% n' Y+ s' A1 Cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......' }+ [* V% m% \; r8 o
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us : b' H# O/ Q( p! }
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"( j' b# z6 e, }: {
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
. R# g4 h" @) ^& G用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,  s4 g, p! d5 f
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: ?! k& A8 y- Q; `( q0 e% D
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,7 n# w: l( ?; z! ?
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' m3 @+ X  m# |5 }; n9 H

2 w2 B' f( E' Q' T2 i( j' d導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,; `/ c, S: ~& k8 k4 c& H
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,3 y+ i4 w# P6 I' o; H4 |3 @4 c  a8 e

& }1 c7 v/ e( w. x, l一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
- b3 I% W5 f& T改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
' X& @% a- t5 M8 j1 Z. h7 x美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...- x. U9 j, G/ a! G" @" m. q  F4 n

* Q' P) F$ H7 p& u) I2 j1 g& m宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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' k: w5 d8 E% B' Q( e* [7 g$ o吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
+ V- w  W( v4 T! `" y信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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" D5 G1 U4 v; U4 b9 d以下是其他人的見解,
+ j( l" d9 B" M% t' e看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤4 _$ r* D6 F+ G; K, I
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& y7 [- L' n. S" s+ ~( l[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# D7 C% d& s$ m. r7 |, @" s. z2 n

! |& E. C9 \; `, ?/ Y信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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: A0 b/ }0 @( e9 a我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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) d5 f/ _3 S5 M. z" y同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
" }/ h- M, a8 C' j/ X.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....8 b/ s1 r6 q: t$ T% d
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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