Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:3 I- s! m: M. i6 N. [6 j
我係一個連自己都吳信的人4 k8 ?1 m# F! L
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
0 ?) N, c, s* g: ^- U道理我知道好多只係做吳到
: ^% v  y3 H7 }% o: L呢D就係做人的悲哀

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) V( n  e1 y, O0 x. gNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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7 p4 s: s5 `* @  f+ jNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....+ X% V5 g+ F0 j5 h9 z
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....- E% J* o* b1 z1 e

% i, Q" Y8 Y: T/ @  p5 f1 `+ Z4 t: M: Istruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
( D+ N* w: i9 p6 a. E& Vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
# m: P: k( R( x我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 {" \0 n, T0 y4 M6 j
真的!!這不是反話5 C" B" }6 I& o7 F, U8 W
因為我是情感比理性強的人0 G# p/ \7 O& [: O2 Z4 J1 {
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," C5 Z& Q( g7 ^- V9 C+ L( |
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 S6 p, X3 F7 O  D: w$ o/ [, Z  g
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...1 {9 ^8 D2 @$ F4 K- ?  F: ~
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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! L2 E8 ]9 Q5 ]0 oWhat a statement we have here?& i7 V+ r" [. Y5 }

5 Y0 l; x$ s6 _3 o  g* F" @8 YJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? + T& ^8 [3 V- K  V5 V+ `9 p" K. z% X
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread./ H- G$ v8 n. ?# w8 h" W
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo9 K* @1 B2 `2 K: ~6 a* e
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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1 V; }- ~& _( ^, W0 I2 P"不信也沒損失"
$ `% l2 M, j0 N! Y& F2 Q6 UYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....9 `, f" H" ]6 S5 R5 G" x
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 u$ ^; g2 O' U: A; H/ k, c2 ?it's starting because we have sins......
9 w7 U2 l% ~2 o( b! Q2 t. Zsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( K; {% I( \. L& r) k4 pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"4 X  }" S$ f  G+ L5 i) T- P( n' M
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
2 C+ G% E$ T& K; u用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% p2 ]# ]2 ]" _0 D& L6 D: q這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
+ [8 [, s% w9 E如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  S; `$ C0 K2 b
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..., ^, X# i4 m8 L
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具  @$ Q$ H# x: i' x- @
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
5 h; m1 Z2 n4 A  f; z信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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# _8 G; @% s2 M: N以下是其他人的見解,
0 v5 n1 W$ D# [看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 F# e- C/ D6 z2 F% U3 L1 s
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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; A0 J0 s+ E! H7 g* A不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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7 }0 {5 v# r+ S& B6 z我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* U( Q. w$ ]/ J9 t4 }9 H

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....8 F* d% V' {3 U1 f! P) o: c
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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. f/ b: F0 F4 HYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.