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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 T4 t- ^1 l4 c我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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; Q& i. x" ^" j8 o道理我知道好多只係做吳到8 B1 |4 s. x9 H( V+ a0 p) y4 S
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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7 h0 O5 \; E! M1 f& D+ v# _8 @Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" m  Q4 H( M/ ]/ t7 j2 G
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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/ O. ]3 h& ^) s' N3 g$ m1 N. gstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
$ _6 z6 @* H: _  T% Ocheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!, d4 Y  [% F( h- c! W
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
$ `% D: @/ j! _6 i所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,$ u  {) k- c% J6 B
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,; H+ B( d$ M+ C9 j8 m4 j
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...8 ?+ [+ T4 ]0 J4 ]( y
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:' ]  E" A1 N8 \
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. Z8 s+ R& B; k  Z- x: V' v: NWhat a statement we have here?
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; U. @8 i8 |1 \2 P( }1 \' zJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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  b( A. H& e1 a! jI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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% z1 ]# H( p3 T( o" o( lLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) h; [5 c* u, x5 s- J. v! G7 X
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0 K$ h0 O$ d' A[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:" Z) @' v# q2 ?3 @- c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"& [  ~& g( S9 f) W, U7 `
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others...../ E9 e& T( q3 C: w; L( j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
3 v9 e5 c& |2 ~! Csatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ; B0 ?- M: H/ D& b( f, V
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 ^" W9 M! D, x, H  e& o3 [0 N8 y& n只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,+ Z0 l9 p% v5 f
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 P- T" O0 h0 n/ o1 n( s這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
# p/ L* s% D) E# ^, J# O如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 b! |( {# b* }8 ~. |3 s- s而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~. J7 R9 v: `: ?# @. ~. ^- E
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 d7 l& @. ]) J! }& p- C3 Y) Z
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 Q' T7 T' X: ]& G: t
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ Q5 m, Z/ W" G  B' ]7 Y$ J; ]宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具) _( G/ X: X$ x
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: \' P# O* g) f$ z! f信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干6 ?  l6 ~7 b. I% G% f+ F8 H
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以下是其他人的見解,  Q4 b+ k: v& H
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............3 F( w6 q$ f( F9 z
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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( A- A2 l; ?7 C5 V6 @同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:" `2 \% q- s2 [: ?* m7 |
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....* o: e, t$ ^/ s) ]
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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