Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:$ P/ Z4 ^! l- L9 A; H
我係一個連自己都吳信的人* e" s& i% f9 ~  W0 s
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
& q3 B. [& ]. c  D% P6 w道理我知道好多只係做吳到
+ T* \: I9 F7 H, {( I. _. `7 u$ b% k呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ }4 b2 h' D& t( O# kNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* x2 _7 L1 a1 b# ?9 B
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ R/ u! \( ?" X3 W! s/ hstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...../ z, q- y  Z& p* f+ c% F
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!' P4 f% V7 U. [1 v5 J1 z! F
我只不過微小的基督徒...................9 i0 N2 G; L* \; }: R5 A8 T
真的!!這不是反話
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:. a- S$ @7 g9 z7 a% a' |
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ K" q3 ?) i' Y( p* ]" k
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.- V) X2 W9 T/ t* x: w2 h' z
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 ]" j* l# L3 _4 {
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  ~- X) p0 P+ {  C) A+ B6 s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"" o; @2 g9 f$ A1 ]
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....* ~2 n+ c: @0 ^' z& f
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......6 M8 h; K1 [% h* c! g; v! p. N, u
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% X. u2 j3 }9 M5 P+ M這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) z& L2 d, ~- H' _, f) o如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
: n. }$ V* F3 w* I7 N+ P& ?0 H3 ~+ y; p而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~# a* Y" g) |5 C* J: i) t

0 l; j' M3 M4 i* p5 o3 a導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. P% w6 a5 y- o( i$ _6 z( q7 d信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,5 Y8 j) B5 O$ {
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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# }. ?! n; J( S2 R信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" G; \; ]( d8 C3 ?
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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* E) ^8 ^  b: j: E- b同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:* E( x: `2 l9 |
.............信耶穌... ...

' H* K1 Q" U) x& x( ]; t9 eRegarding the resurrection...., C( U$ g9 S% T

3 ~9 f) ?/ z  x5 _, a# S% ~Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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3 c/ j" Q  V/ g7 x; oYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.