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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:- L) E- `1 Z0 o% T2 P: A/ L
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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& {0 f$ P2 \& b+ |! kNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) u1 |; c  ^' T, L+ O4 E

9 y; S5 k8 o4 o* x% Jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% V6 T% N$ R# c; N! N# Q( f* Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  V" ~6 l0 w9 u$ Q0 B8 X/ Y( Icheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ U8 h7 _2 b' x" z2 W3 m我只不過微小的基督徒...................4 V& a+ |. d, r+ ^0 h
真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 l% ~4 w; L) Q9 R8 c/ E" n' F+ D7 b
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
7 I$ A3 W! _, L, |. H" H( ~在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:( L5 p8 P( ]' U# r7 |* m; J
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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: H! j6 b5 b' C4 B$ RJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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1 m3 x7 Y; Z7 o5 zI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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9 p9 s, D  H$ ~0 XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
, R% b+ Z7 t3 f6 n) @3 D: f建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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+ _' F+ j5 E  T; f6 b6 \"不信也沒損失"
3 X% r' X8 ~. m$ H1 a1 P8 rYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....+ ]3 i: ?9 B5 L; D* }' J/ a" g, e
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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' s2 ~8 u: ^" H! h0 vit's starting because we have sins......
, \* `7 `2 C: ~$ V5 b6 |satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 r% l" l* G& Y5 T; M6 H0 G; z
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
/ b. k) Y* k5 U0 v只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
/ ?8 F. y6 U. W& a" e, T用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' z; |$ Z  A' p. W# X7 @  B! t這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
% T, [1 S0 J/ I- N' G( {7 ~如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 P) T+ z' Q% U; b# b而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% t' B# ^# a- O8 C5 H# D
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,, S5 H5 M5 B* H- ?. Y+ D

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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法4 Z& p' d' \: ^# k; I
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...4 z, P) ^& S1 C: p
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干; ?& s! k; X3 p

8 _7 F/ ], p+ G# M( j% Z1 e以下是其他人的見解,- O1 V1 ~6 l; _  ?$ q& E
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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/ e" W0 N9 N" E% M2 V信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!6 M$ K8 {- S( M: t( N
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:; h/ K/ ~& ~5 A6 Z1 W4 U; X
.............信耶穌... ...
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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0 Y+ J2 W6 D1 z. g1 q2 TYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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