Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 I" M* B# l& ~6 {8 ]& A& y! n我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 Z& L  X$ a  r+ ^0 `' n又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
* j# c" h" i( }4 r6 F道理我知道好多只係做吳到
7 Q$ @/ J4 q6 ]2 T4 [7 ~; p& _呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ D0 A0 e# R% \

8 b' ^4 a% i3 r2 Z0 b  _2 MNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....; E7 `  w; N  w8 l7 D
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  c& d4 R" t, k) ^) [
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!: B5 P9 Z, o( I  k2 T
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." c: S5 b* {6 s, @$ W' G4 f9 X
真的!!這不是反話/ I- g# V. o/ g" p4 K* r( R
因為我是情感比理性強的人0 F% S, A+ n* X6 Y9 |! F# ]
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
) T( A: m7 I2 ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
) ]1 t6 L3 m$ m# m' C7 W( X在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...1 p5 B' n2 d+ z" W. a
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 K4 b$ g/ y& ^! o- {: m/ v! ^
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. Y' a9 {6 X2 _5 t2 r) X( eWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.8 i  ?+ D  T; t" ?5 n8 m5 [: D% H

: Y& i# i+ X( [3 W! |Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:! H) [% L8 c8 d2 Y2 r
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"8 @8 p* u4 X- [
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) K# K: b* @' M
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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* O# U- d/ b3 u* I' M& |it's starting because we have sins......
- U% X, H9 }6 O* ]8 fsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
. I! Q6 l4 v4 j只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 y4 i7 t: Z/ z. T用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為," `3 X6 s$ u2 R( b
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全9 A! q5 h( W: n+ c
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
- o) f/ Y1 H- L; ]( ^( ~而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~6 V6 O. d3 X" N2 S
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  G& S- C* r3 U1 N" ~6 G" P# F0 X. \- b
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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5 [; I6 n9 k6 q# u* B- t一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,$ c" q8 O* w$ [
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法: D: ~. U4 ^" G( k6 T
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..., R& \: l0 o2 [( Q/ U- H# e1 {$ r
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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# Q: W; A& D) m吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,( |0 s5 e4 v3 g1 {0 r" K8 I
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 o* ]4 F3 m! f( k

% p* P! g* E; _以下是其他人的見解,* j. ]" r" l& @. @8 N  B, A* h+ H
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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3 o2 a( z1 t! a: W[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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! ?7 f% F. m" \0 e, _6 g. |% v信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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' d) G. D( I8 i- D2 }不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!! ?# K6 x/ I' n) h, y4 E% d
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, _; |) L- f, {: K1 h* X. |
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....& }, c. q- ^9 B

/ C2 ^$ T# K  e' S. h6 J5 g0 NActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....+ e6 c* A# z0 s  E8 A7 B' @" t
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.