Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
# B( G+ k# l& d" ]7 S, q% Z我係一個連自己都吳信的人
8 r" f* o2 T3 U8 b/ y' j0 \1 {5 I, V又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
. y8 @* |) G* T8 Q3 @4 I2 e道理我知道好多只係做吳到6 u% a, k5 z' y5 R. G6 ?# m
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  _: D8 k7 f4 g
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....0 [" ]; [9 B' ~: n+ j& Q
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....: _8 g3 m% H1 {$ ?& V; }
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....4 T/ t. N1 u7 E( F) N. f
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 i! i5 ]% |* S9 W我只不過微小的基督徒...................
: D% i$ u3 ]7 A$ u' \4 ^真的!!這不是反話3 r: B) Y7 g2 i9 E' K9 A
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  {7 m& z$ O) Z# X9 Q% j8 h7 M
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
9 ~8 b( o3 b- r6 L1 V在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  ]7 S4 f' M, x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 f- Z4 F4 r3 N  J+ wWhat a statement we have here?
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/ H9 O1 J$ ]) q+ a  zJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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3 y! {/ w+ X  T' tI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 ~! F; v/ \9 C& s  ~; x( w0 s

- j2 ]% }+ h; f4 Y: J# g$ _Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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8 P0 V% a8 O& {" y& S8 x, @' K:cool:
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4 W, s4 \" p" Z$ J1 Y[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
: W) s- u5 d. m8 k/ t9 E1 @" n建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"5 N4 K7 M5 V1 D3 g+ F: T' D
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....8 ^, u' t) P, T* T; @
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......9 i  p1 W" k+ |( m1 e- N+ `/ E

0 Q- U$ p: V. j' d2 y$ Git's starting because we have sins......
1 A3 s& `! l+ c2 T& o, G$ c( ]satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 h' }9 D& M, ?; Zour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
- ^5 E$ e+ f$ h: m, \$ n這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
# }3 r" ?& h; T9 F+ v6 ^% s' Z% P如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- M* G% t% O, x3 a. W3 X+ Y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~( x/ \5 B; s* [9 h$ z) a
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 {0 S! J. M, [: K' w
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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( z# x5 P) s' X; e  i1 V一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
+ `6 F, d. I' C4 Y: X! ]改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
0 E& |  Q, {# O美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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9 `) L2 F! b, x9 F宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 c) }4 |' V. n$ t9 \
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,  D1 |$ ~8 O$ }0 V* K3 ^. t! C2 T0 R4 t
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 E1 m8 Y% c6 `5 U, c
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............% ~. K% k; ?# E6 v! {0 @# }

1 N' o5 D& m, h9 m$ A信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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. k; k: L  F' t" D9 D$ z9 Q5 y我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!4 U& e) o# U; d1 |

7 C9 M0 z% ]5 {' G$ w同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:# m% T, s* \6 Q/ w
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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8 M) a7 J9 h+ [! B' R5 h2 T8 `Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.