Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
( H% z/ L7 |. a$ b, @我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
  f, T$ W9 _7 j/ r6 ?呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!4 o0 e# a9 z3 w; W  W( f

- j+ V, j2 E' YNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....3 f! }, ?# Q# s: C" {$ Z

$ {4 j$ C8 w( q; i7 N7 dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
3 b  W3 G% _/ V  e我只不過微小的基督徒...................
2 v8 P3 Q; D, r* T* {. D真的!!這不是反話
! i2 l3 p9 ?. u& y$ s. i因為我是情感比理性強的人
% p* P1 q. u2 X所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 Q4 W: \1 f5 i; g
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,' n3 E5 a: R' U+ a- r# c& E3 }
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...% |6 l' |! k; N+ \; K2 i' C! a
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; D/ l" G% C9 j2 _/ _4 p9 N2 f. i( A
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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) ]0 X: i6 H3 l& s7 Q) q+ y- CWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 1 `# a9 M- l" y1 y% [" O( M
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 `2 }0 Q4 X, W* i; v建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
; ^( w9 n" ~$ z$ H& G, U2 N- B9 mYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ t2 |* w: b" ~/ _but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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' D( h5 K1 N+ B$ \) G6 _it's starting because we have sins......
) f  A' q; @* G5 N' Dsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us : t& a8 Y- @- }5 m& N
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"5 Y. O+ ]- b: Q% }4 [
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,+ @" F% q* U0 d6 I% h% X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
- |( h# n4 c! y( {0 D. I這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
* @, e  {) q+ |0 V# y; V" e如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,8 ?( B8 m; H+ d; X
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~( b8 M. Q# L$ n: \( D
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
4 J% V! e8 y3 m" @; E) ?- X+ s. H好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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! p" _! J0 X' ~3 Z) N一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,- ~( C6 `1 \0 }
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法* i' P3 M! [; o0 n( u8 j! x: c) N/ `
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...6 _; \3 Y$ M; a5 j/ b9 V% n
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,- h3 x8 ~: ~6 T3 k2 u: ?
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,1 @8 E5 R+ H4 Q. n# r3 {% T3 F
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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  D7 `) C! x1 n& I! K# I信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!) U" H. I+ `/ b: L8 u

9 M4 c/ q, m1 B( {  r, M: q3 L我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 t4 |" e: @9 o3 m6 F.............信耶穌... ...

% }+ f$ |: B  |/ b/ M5 y5 kRegarding the resurrection....
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- v7 ~: ^# G0 F, M( I8 L+ b7 _Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... \' W7 s  F# o+ B" t  t

% R# D3 \7 a' s/ [- A0 oYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.