Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 w- J# @  X+ w- q( {* y道理我知道好多只係做吳到9 {- u4 a. t+ G" d5 }& U2 C
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 m5 D/ X! P+ ~& a
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) d# _: b% q  N2 @& Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
+ H' y) n2 N0 C1 h+ J; ocheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!( u1 d% t8 Q# p' }1 [( V, C8 Y/ I
我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ I$ v6 E) m0 z2 N
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 ~9 N1 X9 F  b( \以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 p- p& f1 ~$ u在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..., ?! B6 g/ |- C$ l/ `
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 _$ Q' g) `9 P( e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?/ m: F: C( Y5 Y+ M
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 3 f( v$ J) k1 }

% Y3 F' r0 D! R7 {6 a9 @! VI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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) _# a% \  ^5 l9 `; T  hLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; w5 u8 T& s8 [2 ]2 D

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
" x) }. c, G9 h; Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
! P# L5 Q3 j( F7 P( \Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others...... {0 ~, A' Z4 i+ A# l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......! X. R/ I" i4 O5 q+ s- i
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it's starting because we have sins......
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"0 \5 O! F6 m. E+ \9 H$ P3 Y- A  @* ]
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
6 `" {! X* K4 ]. n  o" X  c用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
" o2 w) W8 g5 Q; V這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全& B" |- \6 b) m# R) C: r* i
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ p, \( v( |; M$ z: O  m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,; B# m/ E  ?  j; y
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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% z, @+ {+ M+ w$ d一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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1 I4 x! k5 P& Q美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具4 U0 }2 F6 d5 [, S0 a" U
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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+ |( Z: N# I2 Q% F8 M$ _以下是其他人的見解,
& Z7 r& q3 p2 `6 o" y3 U8 E看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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$ ~) G7 I  ~5 Q3 v% ~; ^信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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! W" h0 b; f2 ]: C; r' R( B+ W不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!. f2 X$ K4 [3 Y; B

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
7 z3 T& |/ [" x4 I.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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/ w9 \9 A' Z1 w4 X! O- E* r) uActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....( b5 ?5 W' m  u0 S7 z

- d3 M5 u1 G- ~+ GYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.