Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  R9 e7 j* L8 F3 n我係一個連自己都吳信的人
# i  L" [8 _( T9 Z又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
) j7 ^1 F) b3 ^* O道理我知道好多只係做吳到
8 d4 c$ i' H6 w% o6 f3 }5 E0 F呢D就係做人的悲哀

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) w/ O+ F7 p' \5 [$ g/ w( SNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) D, @+ C3 ?$ T# D
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....: c  \3 Y7 c7 o& w% E4 H

! x3 a7 g6 C! ]' x$ Z0 jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
- O; _/ J( f% t1 \  _, hcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!& C( `$ n, Z& y4 q; c
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
4 }, g1 N: ]; g) z7 K3 p真的!!這不是反話
- P4 y% |+ ?, ^+ M( E5 W因為我是情感比理性強的人" T, q5 e  Z7 ]1 F2 X
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,$ S0 ^. u8 N; A
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 h' h6 A: [0 F- f2 h在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
- _/ `2 |1 M  R) D% U1 r建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ ~9 f) k1 i1 U1 vWhat a statement we have here?4 ^9 v2 z2 _% W0 F& _4 d

5 @  ^4 x  A  V* h% Z( f/ G8 PJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo7 e, d3 }$ l& D  y, b

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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$ R8 m: Z- J8 [6 G"不信也沒損失"7 M7 X, f0 Z! q3 F, _8 p
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: W' H; f9 f) Z# W) @! K
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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. p5 n' p9 ?) ^! vit's starting because we have sins......
7 \' i- L8 H3 m5 X; N' bsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
1 c/ V% j; O  x- A2 K" eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
3 ~9 \' ~) Q0 w9 \( n% k只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
5 F2 v# A5 \$ F8 }6 L& ^1 ]用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,& ~( F* U+ Y4 t$ K# g- F
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
3 t# F  ?+ ]2 F$ f$ d8 z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
4 V& l% C) A3 G& g0 ^" D1 P而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 ^2 U' s* H* e! K! M' e
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,0 H% a3 ~# X' A+ b2 n, q

' m; y, ]0 {" j一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
8 @; G: @9 _  M; _2 D& e- h改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法' N5 b& ?' Y1 L& H9 X! s0 `
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...9 U8 w# K  {) e( D! y

& O8 Y4 o5 Q" t& e/ \1 n3 @宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具9 |2 E$ u" R5 j8 ~$ r5 s5 D! D

/ _; I! c7 W! p3 a, Y/ K' b吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,9 k! o) d$ U, f( l% n, s- \
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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( `0 U) X3 F3 l+ J以下是其他人的見解,9 w  \" ]. `& S; W" e+ R& O. K
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤2 p9 Y9 N" H4 X# A+ u4 E
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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# ~/ V8 p3 M6 q+ X! }! Q/ N同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
9 Y$ A9 Q$ t9 j/ C9 }.............信耶穌... ...

. \: K. l2 Z+ ~4 i9 i) C- s3 J& c9 TRegarding the resurrection....
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/ }6 p& v: j* |) x* ^$ dActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....( A+ L; N3 Q6 t1 F& g; e, n
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.