Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:; A* N8 r* m4 x& E
我係一個連自己都吳信的人. V8 r$ I4 B* O* Y4 ?3 L1 ]  ~
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' u; x8 z  e" c; r9 r, r: u' @
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" G# E4 u# b# x' }& y
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' b( s: Y; z% J/ A2 r0 N
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話  i$ M" c1 K1 q3 T
因為我是情感比理性強的人+ I! I$ z9 R0 X( M6 g' @
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 Z- W, ]% M( L1 s# ~  }* Q
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 k+ K4 ^+ n! T
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:( Y; \2 q( C: L" k" R3 N
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?  {  Y, w- ^7 j' i6 Y

8 r* J" G, k8 O6 X. NJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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( R/ x' j! B! T# T6 W- VI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- S2 F, `+ K! u
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 r+ V  x; ?- e9 X& d! Y, k$ A. Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"+ R/ h% P) V/ K" I. b2 z) {
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....4 k4 l  D9 {! w6 Q$ O+ u. P
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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! z7 D0 a  N. m% F' Xit's starting because we have sins......
* n7 m7 D, B4 v8 l! lsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
! d, K( I( c1 g( aour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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4 f5 h; |+ l3 T' a' S用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
2 I1 Q0 {# J* @" _8 N這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
3 ^6 x) g* Q# b2 U2 y: K如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,6 F% A# J: b, f- M& K
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~/ E2 A9 v. a! K, j2 ^1 H: T

7 S7 m3 \$ d, i導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,8 x0 X" M; D6 P, s! o" R
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,( U" k) {* O- a+ _4 q; L1 `% Y
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...2 {8 {( A' S  U  }, w

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ p& Y4 |( I5 t8 h+ i
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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) _3 x4 ]: V. R+ s, V" e以下是其他人的見解,8 S* O, K4 H  q$ k2 r( Q
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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3 R; m/ L& L; p0 p) |不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!" p) F* `; O" K5 e4 ^' b: ?/ `$ V; ]

3 M. k4 H; m$ P" E" x, W; e我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 ?' d7 B/ c+ ?5 v5 o7 Z! \6 V
.............信耶穌... ...

# j0 Q- e" C4 C% e- g. _Regarding the resurrection....  O- x4 t2 E( e

, H& J& E" R# @7 n! RActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.