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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
. l7 H, H/ Q+ `# ]- Q0 K1 P我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! p2 q& P/ t" p9 F1 A+ [又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢2 x5 i# D+ m' K+ j
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
' `9 }! K6 c; j% O呢D就係做人的悲哀
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7 G, s: d( }; L' O( o5 Y0 S2 a4 CNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!9 d8 Y3 [4 e. [- G1 D( V) d% i
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....& |! X0 R( w: O  k+ f
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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0 K9 x$ t9 n  N% ~+ Q, L- R- ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  Y8 _  c( r6 J! N/ h) r: ]; F
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!6 k( I/ ~/ a  A! d* Q7 H6 x
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人" C: [+ F  W' ^- L5 Y
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
# K- B& }/ ?4 t以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 I% w% b( v1 N
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 s! F* b/ F* g
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:- s* n1 b" H) k* s/ c7 I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; ~; E- w/ x9 m5 r0 I  I* F/ P
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo7 c. o  p+ H& ]- M2 G& n
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
9 Q# Y+ ~4 j+ ]# J) k2 E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"; Y5 n% d3 z6 I5 `( D
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
9 r4 l: p* x3 p, i  H5 ?but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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$ J1 X+ L) t" g) v8 q* t# _( mit's starting because we have sins......; \# V$ ]$ A( R! a5 K
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us . R, ?: L5 |- J: H' v  E) z
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"# I/ A* w* V+ k7 L
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 Y) k$ \* n6 M+ m5 j- _
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
5 |: ]  t9 F0 ^+ Z9 `  _這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全' ^2 C9 d' N' O  L8 |' X. Y
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# U1 y. g9 r. Q2 L$ P! h  K1 T而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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4 n/ X! Z+ a3 J" q) w. k導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,- `/ f* _& e! y- A& P
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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5 F8 t8 ]- ^% \/ _/ v2 E3 W% Z一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,* h9 v4 f/ [: S' a2 q; A! n
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法7 ~, i% X* p6 ~4 d
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...7 t! @+ }; [: F  m6 A+ t. M6 W

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' Z5 a6 e8 c2 u4 \. L. o7 E; @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干4 n9 V6 S! z$ t; C, g
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以下是其他人的見解,5 u- C0 t( s' G* \  g
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!; @/ H* G* r! U

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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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6 w0 N7 y4 ~$ a' m! \1 {Regarding the resurrection....+ i( w  E- \/ h" z3 ?; a) |
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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9 Q/ D$ F- F' j. r+ nYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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