Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
* }1 t' Q* p6 l/ R道理我知道好多只係做吳到
5 a7 u2 X; C& n6 |* o7 w: d: M呢D就係做人的悲哀

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( f( Z% H( o9 k1 |Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!1 f; @. a  D: U

/ ], F) X3 g) x. K0 P& c! X& xNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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  ]$ m9 N3 @. U0 |mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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9 \3 M5 J2 D6 d" X$ Ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& N4 A! |: e9 C& q) s3 A6 q
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ m8 h2 v1 X) P& ^
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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# G( D( e: l7 u) R因為我是情感比理性強的人1 I: p& i( A6 K* `, m
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 I* U) S, [% G6 k! G; u以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, E. m# E( m) j  {: P' C$ d. U
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 l6 T2 M; X+ R! A
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
, |2 d% e; B# C# F! }6 o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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- C) x5 |3 l. VI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; @+ E$ V1 }* e6 k" o& A
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:8 R, l, i6 b( h
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' q. P& k% H6 X/ D/ G"不信也沒損失"
9 Z+ [. i- x6 z/ vYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) j1 ?8 A9 U# N
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......& G2 P; M" k0 L- Z0 f
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: U  ]: X: X% {our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# {7 F3 e9 h8 j2 z* D& p, @只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
( v; c: H8 \! C3 f6 W( G用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ {$ B/ k7 `# y% G) A2 }這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全# f( F: Y" m" s  e2 O
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,! O9 A& V4 n& U# T: \3 T2 D
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( M9 V$ e8 H, c6 a  `8 P/ P好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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) W$ P  o- N5 Q( M# Y8 ?' _一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,  a$ _7 T( m7 u7 d0 C0 h' e
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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, g2 \6 [/ m& y5 {以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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7 o7 t! A2 |3 s: e9 ~不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
# P9 ?, h) b2 A6 ~.............信耶穌... ...

& e4 L1 R# ^! ?" E; iRegarding the resurrection...." G8 D6 u* W- i4 G

! f2 E7 P7 _* |' o0 t: WActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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) a  x2 v5 F0 q0 T2 f# B. a, n$ _You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.