Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
1 M3 J% q) Z0 B; @& i" h1 c6 W3 s3 U道理我知道好多只係做吳到/ N: r3 [6 E2 D7 M( J0 E* w. `
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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3 W( ^! y2 O: F1 O7 rNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!4 F2 V6 a& U" L( d5 v5 z

' N+ H' B) Z5 s$ SNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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& \' g; H0 ]/ ~$ Jmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# r! \& v' f, a/ O- ?
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
" o( o" v: `7 a3 ^; a( f* Y5 ocheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
8 i5 P& z0 o% U; F3 s$ P: J( B* X2 W我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,% f) Q8 h: i, J4 B
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& v7 _( O  K  r9 `在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:# m( N9 m1 `1 M4 W' L3 o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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( [: ^# }" H7 E, UJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?   l' V. s6 W% W3 E# u: @2 B
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.- F0 s# o6 E( J  I

% u) U% O" h2 W$ g4 z7 a( X/ CLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:3 a6 @5 W4 }% `% v" o' H: L
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# i0 Q' H. p0 C3 Y. P- Q"不信也沒損失"
/ W% P( ]$ s6 u! XYes, we can't "control" the religions from others...../ z$ h( k! X' v6 }* O$ z- i
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......) t1 x( c+ W* n9 W

' B( N+ w4 B  ]4 E, B0 sit's starting because we have sins......
& ~, b- w6 d; b# ?" _; g2 Lsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 M* `4 S5 c- ~. wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
: k& |/ H* i% }1 Q' F5 @/ K3 B' Q只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,0 O! W. R+ a$ h
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 k! H4 P. P$ O這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 I/ B2 p# s) v5 ^如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," N: M- o  K, h& O% L
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,9 A5 l& k+ u: F+ a7 E8 b
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,2 h( y3 V2 W1 u! l" U1 T" j
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,6 Y4 L4 ~* }/ t( C# L7 s% T
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ c6 r; `  z6 ^- `# n美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. ]" v: ~2 R2 |4 B信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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9 P5 s, ]' ~  R/ g, v5 j以下是其他人的見解,4 \6 n* k1 I! y, z  N
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤4 ^. t: z8 _2 n+ Q- f% q8 y
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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# H, M" S0 L; k不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!  `) j2 ?3 g4 g# W

  O4 h) P3 O4 E同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:* _3 ~7 W/ {* O. W( s! n
.............信耶穌... ...

+ C2 W1 {6 y( nRegarding the resurrection....3 c+ {+ l) W. X) t. S9 t1 {3 D; l
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.