Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
# J: e3 `  |; D5 c我係一個連自己都吳信的人
, x' U1 p% l0 }% \又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢+ V. b, K/ H, a2 T# @* W
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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# D) o" t9 x- d5 d: P* ?  a7 c! |Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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' M. y3 O( G7 s6 Q0 Y4 DNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....0 y2 `" U* C' _' d
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# d* ^, A: E' ^& ^  |0 N2 {: c
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 O0 i2 s( M$ y& m; L; Gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 L8 O) I* c& l! q+ T我只不過微小的基督徒...................: C0 a7 a  w! X- i# v
真的!!這不是反話, K; P/ K3 S' d, z8 p6 S
因為我是情感比理性強的人% b# l+ `, h: D  J
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 j. P: G" V; w7 g. m6 W
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* y3 d* E8 R9 N) N; v, Z
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& H0 M% ]- b8 H. x4 v9 l
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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+ e3 F. b6 A" o" z+ qJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " h- a- d$ p7 H

* _- a2 g2 x! x0 F! y+ d( d$ _7 Q2 u0 vI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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& x$ E% x2 u8 a+ T& g* VLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:1 j$ o& t6 |& T
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. G  Y+ `( B( U" t, }% h1 v# u"不信也沒損失"
9 G  F6 {, I7 D; P# i3 `5 ]Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 f1 n/ i0 [% v/ |* f; ubut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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2 F1 n/ f& M! d" y3 U  z' eit's starting because we have sins......
; }0 }, X1 Q& w9 ssatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: t3 |4 W* ^% ?: bour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"* _; P. i% |! H
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,3 w/ D/ C- b% X; w8 p# |& P
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
$ f5 v' B5 u, }1 [0 J這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全. y4 ~% }2 ~5 h4 t6 W; J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
7 k# S$ W3 @- x$ C. j/ S而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~: F" R/ e" @! N& S
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
  |/ q& u/ p' Y  s好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,2 \) {& M9 v. m# l9 S, F
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
5 \+ x6 c( T2 ^4 n改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
  A0 h5 L' u; B+ b美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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5 S' h2 `/ G5 s1 G- b# u' y吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
8 r5 {( Y9 s: n8 b9 X* B. A$ X1 x  ~信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,( y% b1 o7 t( k  U% A; f
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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  I) ]' p1 h* @! O# X% F2 p! {% w& V8 ][ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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4 @) A  B) s$ M/ j9 D. t不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!4 k( N6 q5 G0 g5 d7 k

0 y' X5 u5 F% M  a6 @5 T# v我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ S# j" k2 Q/ ~# f) g

; k3 @/ _, |" E( R  C7 `同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, S* I. E, f  W4 ^! y+ ^4 t. R4 l
.............信耶穌... ...

" L4 R% x9 P. }" ^Regarding the resurrection....( F/ }- E# h$ ~1 W: Q9 K
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: \+ B8 n) X3 H3 ^- K8 D) {* N
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.