Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢/ t! c; u  {7 q; _& G* k
道理我知道好多只係做吳到% h+ L# Z* w* e' |+ T
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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% Q; A; F8 H9 \& s+ j& |Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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) {- h; g8 n" }1 tNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( ^) f3 X  Q4 B
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...../ L: s' V# n9 z
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!- t; Y3 S. }# H' v' b/ S; M" _
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ _9 }3 m; h$ p4 [! j8 t
真的!!這不是反話! }5 K9 z% J7 a
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 c6 i8 L4 C: J- t' b! |- r
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,; {- E- U$ S. r2 }2 d) A" A
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...% Z3 Z/ H0 A; t& \
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ {$ a( O7 O0 o9 s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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; Z1 a* b3 U- R! p5 k8 s$ E$ x& k8 hWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.0 ~6 w# y, M1 B

% E" {8 B  I7 H) ^Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) W* Q) d4 X0 M' L
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ I; i2 E/ C5 [: e- G6 R; F  S0 A
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失". o8 P* ?. S. g. U3 z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......7 _: ^4 [/ t  @9 k: w  G
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
, d# L) P5 P- e+ b只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,5 s! O6 b* o0 ?, f/ r8 r/ W0 |9 Y
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# ]' t1 f) n0 u  l& T7 f2 A這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 `/ }* r4 H3 a, f) J. Y, f5 R; n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) ^3 B, s; `! T
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,2 v2 X8 N2 L6 W) A( ~9 Q" }
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同," ~( a6 H; A1 w0 h" D" ^6 s
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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9 A2 d8 R1 ]: i5 o1 Y% f0 o0 v: i宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# y: E2 Y! g5 Q! R+ z7 q& G
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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6 V$ p9 V8 g1 U! g- Z以下是其他人的見解,; p5 L# ^7 r- ~! |8 l
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) G- Z2 ^9 `6 C* V- T) X

2 I3 O' F: y9 \3 Q' j3 h7 e! w信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!* Z& l4 X) {, T; G1 G1 @  p$ H

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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
$ z" F3 H& a. g9 k7 d.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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& H2 A4 q2 ~% `! n  zActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....$ \+ Y2 l% T/ \7 N, J
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.