Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
( d5 v9 ~% K, d2 @! ~! q我係一個連自己都吳信的人! ~6 C9 k) `' z+ P  H2 a6 m, o
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
; ?) I+ B7 H9 M. y道理我知道好多只係做吳到
2 Y5 L5 }/ [" U& E" T  w# u4 _) c% n呢D就係做人的悲哀

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7 f& _, D% C+ {( iNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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9 H8 o/ ]% e) \/ S9 w5 ~6 n5 Y" yNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) J3 b2 n$ U) ~struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 {! H9 M; Z& ^5 ^cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 n7 x( [3 u5 Q- G+ z2 b* w
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
! K; k9 s2 a/ W真的!!這不是反話
9 d9 X% \. u; a% ?- ]9 ]5 Z因為我是情感比理性強的人
7 E4 X/ p5 G0 V1 x- F7 D所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  f- N+ E: B* @  H: J( Q& @7 V# \
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,4 ~* J6 V& t1 m, J+ |5 ]
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.... ^. T5 c$ m. i
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
8 W4 @4 A( c7 j) ~9 z: N! _$ s7 v% N建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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7 W- R  {5 O/ D, qJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) p& W7 `( ?6 C' ~! d) B9 RI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: k/ O( @' t" }8 K5 q

) _9 l: ?. J( C, i3 _% BLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 h1 e% O3 R2 c; W( s9 K3 A* c

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# m  Q; i' O; O9 n建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"' `( _. z# W7 z4 V, ]
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....1 l" h! t; e4 U! R3 D8 v6 h
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
+ s' e3 a9 H1 m! X) U2 o# i只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,7 Y  a8 ^) L3 c" D6 c
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
. ]  g, Q) J2 l$ ~" o這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
: [9 I7 \. Z' S, P如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 |) p! F) l: r
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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" ?: o/ H8 n% U0 l8 g  {3 R導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  ^0 l# U; m4 Y: a
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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/ ~& E- d* G7 T! g/ u9 f& I' R一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 O, T2 v8 l7 d- ^# J
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
5 G# b* h! g% [- h/ [( s1 Y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...  M: h% v1 r1 w4 r3 d6 p

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( G# {+ g: z) b6 a信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
9 q, v/ `+ _& o' D0 d看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤" s: k" n  u" l; x9 n3 b( e! P
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- J( \7 p$ H' f: E# Y$ k  F

+ Y" I3 o7 J% K5 Z信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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& i, A/ F8 q! p( P6 n6 M不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 c! Q6 s( m) M* {# v/ I2 T! L

8 d* {3 h2 {3 j- z9 j' Q我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!3 e' E$ u3 t2 t: v0 R3 k

; @9 O; {: O: Y/ O+ o. x同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
* V# R  i6 }, k/ _' `.............信耶穌... ...

0 V$ C& L* S3 K9 N, ?Regarding the resurrection....' {' K& ~! t! Q4 Q, M- H2 D/ i

4 \8 W8 \' E5 |( BActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.