Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:6 l) @/ h7 a3 u# N* i* v
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
8 a5 h$ J1 T* w- U呢D就係做人的悲哀

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' r. R0 M% N6 Z- vNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ F2 M/ b, c4 R. r; x1 l" E4 K

0 `* f- ]: A( q7 Xstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  M& i; X% B2 \- D7 C. V
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!0 x( z% c( Z8 q3 Z7 n7 W) X
我只不過微小的基督徒...................$ M' J# V! I5 F# }
真的!!這不是反話
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! u9 _7 ?3 w  H0 \% x& S' A: _2 n所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! S. h( [; E6 V4 d以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 L1 Y4 f1 I! [$ Q4 x( i( g在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& a& w% f' O% q/ D* \
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
1 L1 i  I, R2 |. T建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( ?0 B3 J& U2 a# x" G4 j* y* O4 WWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 7 t6 j& Y: a# n  F" n
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.* O1 w. x; \1 p

( v9 K% e* N4 \* t; G4 S' a8 iLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 \- X. x1 Y1 o4 M
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:3 m! T1 Y2 b1 k- Q" g! P" ]% k, ]
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* Y, d* b, l3 v. @" Z: x"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......9 W6 h0 ^0 }* u! J# k! z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 9 V+ T/ X+ O0 s* y, b4 U1 t
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") `$ ~7 n, J' X! o6 g
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
+ e; B9 u8 q5 @2 r$ H用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' A1 z# ]& h/ g0 G, b9 Q! \6 y這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全1 L' D3 {% ^: [' r, J7 \" l) r
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& Q! S4 W6 e. \7 \9 |
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~* E. P4 R; b; z1 N! z

  @; I  n* w. q0 E  D導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看," x6 I& f" M$ V# U
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...& w. X$ T" e+ p: ]0 s+ b

6 s- l" e7 W" r& H宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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2 \8 P" n/ [+ f4 Y% q/ u2 C+ S以下是其他人的見解,& m& E7 W1 e5 f) ?* S  k
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 Z* x  Z1 n+ _: L# b+ H
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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( L2 Q: x& @; S* t7 ]/ O; o信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!. z9 G- W7 f3 G

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" o; s2 A' q# Q" d( E# L& W同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! `3 `5 q- Y4 w; x3 \0 d: [
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- \- E3 x! V& ~6 p9 m, H

) y) p% E) d5 a2 B/ X" Q1 n9 I4 EYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.