Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: V: R+ T! U! d0 H5 k2 {我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 P% A4 [6 H; T
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
6 v) o$ J( \$ K2 k道理我知道好多只係做吳到2 Q! X  Y& A; B4 Q/ E. J1 V8 Z, i
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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4 y9 k) k% w- o. Z* v) e& u- dNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 L& D0 i& O$ Z3 _3 l4 \
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....8 a! K  F1 b  [2 e- G

) n4 X7 J3 W+ [! s' z  @  d8 mstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
! j0 k1 t4 q7 e2 B& q& Acheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 A7 z; w. v- Z我只不過微小的基督徒...................$ [+ n: i+ C2 V/ _5 m
真的!!這不是反話
" V; O8 P7 _6 V7 V- W: }, T* X( U因為我是情感比理性強的人
$ X5 O. `! Q* [所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! m6 W0 n6 D3 G' M+ n
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
9 ~7 _9 V% D" J% p; A在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...8 N1 l, R% i4 D" Z' U$ V  Y! Q
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  `2 Y) N2 x( Y/ s, z6 X8 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?) b. D. z+ c  ]4 o5 s

( I1 N; U. k) j# j' Y! mJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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1 Q2 l# y4 I; T7 [I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ l  q  \* s4 i6 A( K' G4 v
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo9 T2 ^3 Y) w% ?3 {: c0 p. J
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
! e9 b; W- k4 w4 h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! X8 g1 D2 S2 F2 R) _1 k3 v"不信也沒損失"9 F1 j6 O  Z0 Y" d* o/ v2 o
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....8 B9 i% q% Z6 T5 m
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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% k0 ^$ R, {& C( nit's starting because we have sins....../ d# u9 X  ]/ K
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 i2 O" e4 Q: n! O7 P8 n
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
1 Q; o7 j4 D' k4 O1 a' R只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,  {+ W8 U$ j) m0 D- R
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,- A- Y% y1 M2 Y
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 ~2 c% |' q1 l# B" o* C* n# U. z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,% B8 z* W+ V3 `3 a1 D, y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~( J; R+ W) d4 [" N+ ]4 d

8 q: S0 r' O% g4 @3 [: w9 a% y導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' `1 b6 G: m% {4 K* K
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...7 y  S  L! f5 m( w2 n' O* G' n4 @

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% O! h% ~& c0 s, n+ ?) g0 g吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
1 Q+ k2 u8 F' ]9 P+ Z信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干3 s9 R3 i0 t( T( w) q8 L- B
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............( F" J  T. L1 t1 @1 X
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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! B+ O9 D3 N8 o' }不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!0 c4 ^7 r2 a$ V0 ?: i

2 X2 s1 d) j' U# Y  M; u我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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0 d' e: e3 R6 r同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:9 v/ ?( E% X/ h9 @. U5 [. j
.............信耶穌... ...

, _5 A, h6 V( m6 r: y1 \' tRegarding the resurrection....2 X- {3 ~6 I( ~9 j; d  ?* p1 f& s
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." M  I6 d. _4 a+ n! g
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.