Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 V) a2 ~0 j" w( x道理我知道好多只係做吳到
! B* `' ]7 V5 E5 B" T5 `+ B$ w& w7 ^9 e呢D就係做人的悲哀

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) s) C3 i( k( ^Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* U" w" T2 z# P
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....( B2 p  v. G& [3 ^; t  S. A2 W
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
7 d9 ^" w/ ^/ u, f( L% w5 ccheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 M' C* j2 q+ ]5 g. D我只不過微小的基督徒...................3 g) ~. F1 g# x( N2 |! H6 _; p+ [
真的!!這不是反話
7 k% d& e! x+ F* w4 R/ G因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
; N2 K+ B' a" P; c; @2 X以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, V$ C! y4 \4 x4 s, e& t3 V
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ `: K/ D' u* P  d- o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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, G5 V1 W% Q1 a7 G7 {: Z8 KWhat a statement we have here?
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" Z! [4 y2 M5 R3 @Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 8 n2 t4 n- l1 \7 L

3 a" F4 g" |  d/ s5 [$ g" ]& AI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# c; m' i  p7 g( ?. `4 I: {

* B  z) p% Y1 G; M$ W: kLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
" S2 O2 j/ C1 @- R' F6 E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" W" z8 g  K. K9 ]& S6 i"不信也沒損失"
9 ~) V* d0 h0 _; |( t, aYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
& B3 \1 H( Y7 T/ d+ gbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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$ {3 s5 p* d2 g4 {# sit's starting because we have sins....../ W; @6 {( P$ C, z. q
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 F, f6 _6 c3 ~  h+ pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"' ?) [9 v* V. ]+ W
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 T; x: ~  m# {" M! c) D
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# Z9 r' O3 {% E$ c( p2 z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全1 V: q, i  d  x  B6 [
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
% _3 r. k2 u/ u$ f+ m/ Q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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1 r6 K, `' y, P$ N導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,7 @; d/ |. D8 E/ c+ _) ~
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,% U9 Z# t3 N2 K( R/ T( ]

- a3 j8 e" U: C! a8 O2 D一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 P& ^0 l* H  G
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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7 b' S3 \  K! R$ E* _7 V! {2 M吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
* v# T3 n+ B* t( @/ x; c信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,8 c0 I6 B0 S6 P( V4 w2 U
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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/ P* [1 j! z0 n& f信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!) u' g" |) C  q) e* Z% A
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!; G. _% W% c! r% [: y

1 ^4 u. a' o8 R' ~, B同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....# `2 ^; Q4 o' X$ N+ ?
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.