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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ j2 T; A  e$ A3 q. J3 ?' Y我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 n8 Y$ M* P: Z又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% [6 K" V* c, W5 \& \# [道理我知道好多只係做吳到+ C) q9 a# y5 B/ `" t" R
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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$ h' d& @% L5 f; w$ XNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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$ q6 E0 `- a  E  ~% oNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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6 W+ }/ Q  c, _% g  gstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....." S1 O+ g* i% x: m) V3 K) [$ T
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
* P" }  l& R" |8 v9 d; o' r2 h我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 |4 l9 T* S) p/ H真的!!這不是反話% N8 b. h* p4 ]+ \: h
因為我是情感比理性強的人; c2 X1 w1 Z; d4 D0 W
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! n$ W& z. a! X, W" w/ i
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 w- D" M+ k; M1 X* }8 t) P
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...- y) \! V9 a) r7 c# y
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
8 u( _1 i5 s% H! ?建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?: {) U9 J* A- x& [/ b* y) v2 P% F
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 5 \( Y/ k& m% ^2 d. a- y7 `
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# ~  w8 @9 Q3 n$ g% n. F
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"- r+ S' N& S5 e9 u" E- S& |
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......1 i0 @0 M& ~" H
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 T. v  |- J; |# n* Eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
- i5 L) u1 X# z4 V8 t# N; z只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
/ N5 g+ F  \/ U  r4 D3 v* x6 ?用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# P% `3 \7 F5 O' k這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 C8 B1 n4 C& }; c, \9 i+ J如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, W* F% o  J0 @  l
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,! y5 a( Q2 C9 p* Q8 {
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
1 e; N5 a. R9 b4 v& ^& a; v8 z改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) q; i# q* N  G: Z# |7 O1 g
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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: b" }' t: N( i, W0 w* s宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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6 h' x" h1 G6 Q( v& {3 x吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
6 T4 Q! w3 M0 s% U( A信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,$ l! {7 J+ U0 T6 S/ H) U
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- B% C7 G8 t" [5 t+ Y3 p7 [0 M9 _
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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( `' d, K7 N6 T% i[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............( p/ M) C1 q" R# O5 \  E- q2 i; ?4 \

5 I" \& o" o. h  D  H信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 W6 H- q! f( I8 b
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!7 Z( ~# @9 M: ^5 _( c# h

2 @7 e& j, b! r2 J我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!: K* n, r, t3 u+ o; j
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....( o6 t7 O: p2 O1 R( w

+ X4 B& j+ `; U; VActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 y! v/ k' }* @) T; i" j- ]: AYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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