Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:' |) s4 |5 T! l/ |& ~3 x
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 L" M/ X( r6 O4 t! l, H2 ]
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ T4 u9 C- j" \# ?" w道理我知道好多只係做吳到
6 R# G% E* z- {" q# R& u' L6 G( q呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ X7 s$ Q& v' U) wNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!9 `/ m6 G. r4 [* t9 x; J

' F. j9 {# {: }! _! G* i4 ^Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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0 t# s/ K4 \2 a+ @struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....* N! Q# X% m9 f% }2 H
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 I" `. B1 a5 N# ^+ ^1 x
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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5 Z* g& c" V- C  m% ~. p4 R因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! P! }" C* y5 K+ h5 l
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據," u' X7 G# \' m8 j9 l) K+ W8 X
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...4 }3 Z- S' ^. J* x8 c7 j; I
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?" |  D5 \+ s5 O: G  g
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) [3 l! \) V& a- U2 B& U9 z1 e0 ]I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.- {0 H3 p1 \& R! L9 t! U
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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6 b" z9 O( p* m. l5 F"不信也沒損失"
- J+ H6 D2 m, I2 O4 AYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
( B# o4 ?7 s( f( q+ Ybut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......! Y6 P9 J6 [' `+ w- n4 R' J* l+ E
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( G5 w" \1 W. J6 qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
% i9 G# e, n' J# M  M# I只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,5 T5 c( r6 O/ E! k- i: E$ }
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
5 U* ~! ~4 I5 X. @9 ~這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( L: W2 w% ?' \3 k. k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
& P' L; M! L. j8 ^# c3 N' N. m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~2 H' c( B8 U8 K  x  n7 v' e# x, t
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. u) T3 V( T7 r2 z好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, c5 l8 S- Z7 G! S3 K) \, `# V  H一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,6 p6 p3 C$ x1 v7 f
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
5 ~( B2 w; G7 g% T  _美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: n% O+ w' L8 t# t, t& L7 B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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7 ?; S+ F  c' k9 f# ]以下是其他人的見解,
$ _& s+ P2 L- N% u/ V6 V$ m+ v看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤3 l" J) T3 {8 L; f( j
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............6 N, p% |1 V. n) Z

4 U% f+ ~$ {& c# G) [( u: i信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; h8 `2 [; e" s, M+ [4 [% ?4 ^" m
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
3 S3 {( b* R/ I, t, T* F.............信耶穌... ...

7 U; `# w- A; b, SRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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& v9 D, o1 H% _+ H6 `- jYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.