Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!/ D3 ]6 r* l( e2 p# g  J
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) G& P; Y: l  K

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1 E- ?- f- q# C0 P* |% s3 Kstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....; r  Q) b  Y# s8 Z# _6 e, A
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!$ R$ |( A3 l& e4 F# T# F: y/ X
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
0 g0 p) z& W& w2 x以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 c& d' p/ T7 ]) `$ t! a. F7 [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
  J$ [* Q& O  b# I正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?% ]* J4 g, k6 g" q, S
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.0 E8 z8 O7 |8 w/ Y( B, D5 R

  L& |6 Z7 r& t0 e! M2 YLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
5 a! k3 u7 R/ T' u建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
# h$ t7 h' g7 B0 T* q6 P! vsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 @8 b' P$ W9 u; j# L4 _our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"! S( i# R6 E  {  Q
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
; _* S4 n7 ]4 l4 t1 _用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) _! C% V2 a6 F
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) [" v4 {+ m6 k4 }如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
: z8 ]: E0 R) G; S! Z而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% ]. F8 c# H5 K% ]" r  M1 m2 W4 a
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,1 q. X: B. U* \3 N: B) q' E; v
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' y! v2 S8 \+ q/ W0 U: U5 O

/ @) l" D; x* Z! q( i: d( N一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,& m- x1 z+ f/ t/ j1 C5 l
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
8 c* {3 |) s  L' T. l. l- I2 k. P美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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6 w6 S* ]/ {$ r5 Q7 b宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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2 S* R& J1 _9 ^( n& q吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 b- _- T- U0 G% X- m信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干% ^6 Z" q* e/ _1 A
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以下是其他人的見解,
* }# ]6 H0 s& ?& c看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!% d2 ?8 W0 s3 |3 J7 B

5 q4 z+ \4 x4 f0 \我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
: o. E1 j- }7 Y' I$ u( K1 D& `; R.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....) D$ R2 `1 l- K6 ]

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