Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 o9 O2 M/ _0 R3 s0 s我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 [- K: b/ F, r5 w5 ]9 j
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% ~! X- Z$ X, E+ Y道理我知道好多只係做吳到
* D* \9 ]% g. A7 K3 L$ \呢D就係做人的悲哀

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  K- p* F2 Q- Q5 e1 u+ p0 zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....6 y% j# f7 ~4 c' Z  U

& p9 n' b' d* W# Xstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& m. `0 E6 _& k0 v/ Z
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!: _1 v1 D/ B. N0 Y2 z) z
我只不過微小的基督徒...................; W  m) }; A. ?2 c
真的!!這不是反話1 F+ ?' E5 s$ l- q; W& g6 r
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ S) D' E8 w- L- @- b. k以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* D" Y2 I+ c3 U" N: b( L
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:* g3 F& B: a* K, u3 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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: u' H4 G* n; @1 \! i$ @& [What a statement we have here?! }5 n( d, y$ Q
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? . l+ B( c5 K6 U1 C4 t0 z  e& I1 _* r

8 P( R: M$ n" x, x  e& JI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.+ Z2 p% }/ M, `2 h$ ?3 c- t8 p

" ]$ S5 N8 }3 ^& ^! uLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:1 X( @9 k( x6 D9 R1 L7 ]6 s8 w
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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6 E% F2 M1 W: t2 [+ R9 j"不信也沒損失"% D3 Q: V9 ^2 v- Q) l
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 c9 e8 X5 n  y9 h! f/ T  b( T; pbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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2 l& V* }7 T* J. _/ G& A) P6 j- @7 ait's starting because we have sins......- i0 a* c  p0 M5 h6 i6 M2 d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; K/ f4 r) |( T( |
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
. w  R6 p  B6 T! P, {0 O0 \用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: D) D" B9 {. Y) M+ K這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 ~0 W% F5 J$ L  Q; u1 S如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
  z% u) Q) L) {6 t; e' N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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0 u! W. K' O. T  w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
) `* ]+ w( P& g9 F+ Z. S改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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  I5 p+ L6 A- j* z# k吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: o4 i$ `8 m5 S8 A信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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$ Q5 w4 U' K. @: T/ M) L, @以下是其他人的見解,) c9 Q+ y! `1 T/ U6 x
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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( M1 t* T! I/ w4 b# Y信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!7 m2 }1 ~' A0 w, z
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!8 y- s. u  M: X
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 ^8 S" U. u3 D, ?( r, }& p( C
.............信耶穌... ...

. H; F; C/ g4 x. V* m; C3 oRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....5 v( b: U5 O  U. `
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.