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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:3 M: x' \) a7 O$ Z0 D
我係一個連自己都吳信的人. S0 K8 V. N/ V. E) T; m; |% E4 T
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢2 n+ H  X& s2 a! s
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
5 @1 Q* A8 g3 p- k6 `% w) t: q呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ T! s6 n2 U" E1 ]2 u- Q
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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. N& i6 N' a* c: Q: Hmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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0 e0 z* o; ~9 h- n3 Zstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....1 d+ d- U6 X/ q2 t' J0 v9 w$ N
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!4 C5 p8 }$ @  V( e! g
我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 I% g( C: |1 |  g. Q, ~2 h  H
真的!!這不是反話/ S- d2 {1 w  q+ L$ n& ?& {
因為我是情感比理性強的人
6 J# [' K) b3 ~所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,- P. M: W- p6 Y) K
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,  M% g0 k* ~* F5 E. F
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
: `1 d" ?) m6 Z7 M0 p7 ~正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:' m, m1 K1 o1 h. V
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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- l( o/ z  D( \2 ?; t' B& K) m4 FJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 5 s+ w8 {4 x- [4 P0 U" x3 J  A
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:4 `  ^3 y) p& G3 O
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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1 R2 F8 g* }- Q- n9 Z"不信也沒損失"5 X* {% B) t/ q! P
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: ~7 ]. R  Q" l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......' T. f" b' y2 y7 ~

' D! F$ t+ a0 T  {8 git's starting because we have sins......
# Z& @/ j$ }1 i! o7 ?satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 q4 {" l2 m( |0 ^; N
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
$ l. c6 u6 S% O) \8 K只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,# o" ^& N/ y, j4 y
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
9 k8 m) _+ N* |* z7 _% L& |這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全3 }' Y: l  W+ y: E
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,# N" l( s+ x( p& G% k$ n
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~5 H& W& k2 s: N" V

$ v+ J0 X/ _1 O' H  E" Q$ d! t導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
7 i: `4 H3 \- h. V好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,0 u0 j8 K, ?9 V; y
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法9 ]6 g# T3 D& T- u0 }
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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2 z: i1 }0 n; T7 G# g. m$ Z& V宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具; \8 [2 X# K/ W" e& o+ ?3 ?  D& _

1 {% H; S3 |% r吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
$ S# x0 N) v/ }信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解," `7 n- n4 g( j5 c; Z4 A
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤9 A. {) b% ^4 Y8 C9 ]
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. A4 A3 O# f9 z0 y1 [1 \* V[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............5 P7 o' ]8 R0 i' J, l

$ }4 _4 R. X# m- c0 ?信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* j! b5 c* c# y9 V6 {

/ n+ n, y, e" X& G/ U% j, `我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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1 e% h: |0 }1 l9 k5 X同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 |" w9 q( Z& `; h4 @% }- W2 C
.............信耶穌... ...
* j( i9 `8 [0 N! h+ T# Z" a  ~# F5 JRegarding the resurrection....# b" ~/ Z- v% o8 Y

. K0 W8 W% D1 R- E6 I6 gActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....6 l, ^# x, h0 u3 z4 u9 R  X# {

4 G  F8 K' g3 T3 u+ g) ~* bYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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