Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
; O6 B6 g- N- c, y9 ?6 a我係一個連自己都吳信的人
/ M3 G+ s4 Y, N. O# K' H1 J又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
1 e) I9 X5 G7 H& o/ q8 n道理我知道好多只係做吳到
, p$ L! N% w$ H/ x% }& z' f呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! H% T& y/ \6 V6 P7 R1 f
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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3 `# I/ u2 w) E7 v- [* O3 @mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 i: T! o3 L8 ^1 _' N0 a- h

$ p6 h; z3 x3 t' t) H3 astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' x& d' j' J9 y* Q* X
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!- \& }4 U: K( P7 R9 Z6 ~6 R
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ S6 S- I8 D2 E7 ~# t5 [" i
真的!!這不是反話; v! j; u( p2 n1 v' ~
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, {( ]7 S7 q9 o7 B9 D; B/ Y( N以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
$ [' W7 _7 W5 u在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
  o* X7 y1 @( e; U2 q. r正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
( O: T( `; P# N" Z6 T, d' d建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 A4 f1 f1 H6 n" t# UWhat a statement we have here?. P0 f. N  ]6 i% N

' G- f9 V& ?, X) r3 B/ sJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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& J! h" F( f  {I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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! H: M2 M  c  hLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo: w' I$ D9 \+ s: F
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
; I' Z6 B- _2 J2 i) N建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"  }  }6 U6 G1 f) d. b6 j; w
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
7 v3 T; Z" W# c4 kbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......3 T' b. x3 d$ z5 D4 @
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 j' U- }$ a1 q$ ?3 P& aour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
  n/ |5 I, `( s* \# W# V" R只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
2 i" V8 _3 R( w; O. G用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! A* B6 [0 T5 j+ f8 x" Q* d# y
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  |& Y1 ]) f3 d2 b: |; S" H. P, s
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
8 e2 W9 p" H/ j9 V% `$ p, q而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,2 {0 a4 ?2 g" ]& |3 u
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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6 W+ o0 p/ i& k$ t% l9 v一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,) X+ F: T. `9 B$ a: Y" k& [) u( \; o
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法* ?7 e' G- _; N: n9 R' A% d' X
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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5 H& S5 L7 N. A7 {吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,2 P- G4 T+ b/ {4 U7 L) ^5 Q$ w* I
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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7 {- S) L7 u) O, Y: f以下是其他人的見解,9 G, b' r$ a+ E, M/ f
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............, F+ L. w8 d" A4 V0 k2 s% x
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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  Q  M) X& y) E; ^+ M5 c6 T不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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6 X4 j# n' |  a  F+ Q+ Q我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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( n; [6 g  o3 e! N2 x/ g同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& b: o9 {9 {- M5 Z: u.............信耶穌... ...

8 D# d) _6 r* NRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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) L7 ^: x9 s/ e) |  IYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.