Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
, v" n2 L5 {; M" z. ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 p" ?3 ?! b/ |3 n2 s又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢: Q, Q4 C  S% [- x
道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 ?, a6 y% Z# F+ d; V8 P
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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, d8 X+ |- ~) G$ @Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!: [. W4 Z7 D& a& y* z

1 o9 X# ?1 }5 `9 j, ZNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# }# [- e7 m" P. d- G' ^0 Y1 [
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! |6 ~9 g- n/ W0 w7 ^
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!, h0 B$ s8 Z) p7 w
我只不過微小的基督徒...................( k" B! v+ _# |4 I4 \( E9 v
真的!!這不是反話8 r$ Y& E! x* o+ Z7 T
因為我是情感比理性強的人
1 S+ V( @( q0 H  U所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
+ b$ Z: r% p& t) P3 l9 u$ b以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ r1 q. j0 w2 S; N0 y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; ]4 a7 s/ _( ?* }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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6 R1 k7 v- N4 M7 p5 L' N( cJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! x1 x! l! F1 X: T( {. b) M

% i5 f- P, F/ zLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo% c! d- C' o( H3 r
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* t5 B6 F& P9 E& H0 H建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. V. F7 ~0 @; J- o2 J6 w"不信也沒損失"8 j4 E4 V1 A. l, t) K  J4 t+ x/ X
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
7 [  n  o. `! U" G' kbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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& r6 u3 X4 F4 v: H: ?: X* E4 hit's starting because we have sins......
" V5 S) }' t' ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us : C" A7 ^! J$ L9 J/ _9 F
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; r% ^4 c7 t' |. ^6 c; f
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
4 {5 M' b( ~0 W9 L' O9 u& u用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ ^* k+ B6 A  |+ Z4 ]) Y這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; m% i3 [; B( g( `
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 o. N% f- c& N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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$ X  u# X. B% d5 A9 q9 X) y導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,, M$ L  }1 u) d# E! r
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,% h  u- f, a0 @; U: k

+ Q1 U- N2 w* X, E. f一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
$ s4 F9 E# T1 q0 G6 l9 h+ s改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 C' x; |3 Q+ [7 M. M1 ]8 M/ O. Q美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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. Y" R, S6 s1 t# R/ b  {宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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) {8 t$ b) E, e6 L吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( ?$ g1 Q0 k5 `; S! R信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 _2 H5 l5 v# \9 e! u$ J

5 s& O7 N- S% E' p  S8 F5 o/ t0 n以下是其他人的見解,4 _9 c1 P* W- j* r+ E* j1 _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& ]) x, G( p' A: g

5 P6 G) ~% u% ~9 f不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 @4 d/ _; e; U
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
% e# Y, c# a& Y3 k- Q.............信耶穌... ...

4 ?* B- i- h- ~, ^8 iRegarding the resurrection...., j) B3 _) ~" O" W0 {, F  F' c4 L, v3 {
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....7 e; Z4 I. W/ f/ \: r# L6 q" z

/ }. O9 d" _. h5 \- xYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.