Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:  m/ {9 A- n& k0 H& u5 o
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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! e3 G# B1 a9 H* ]Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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: X- p" e* C4 [! @( C; _# D2 fmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ Y  N1 E8 V) `" e: R- h8 I
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& n1 {9 E( s: F
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!/ b" M% t0 G# O+ M* V$ r
我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 l2 p8 D# E/ \) W
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: y. S( N  [- l5 Q. Y
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,: J2 S$ b9 ~1 o* `
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  J( g6 a) Z- }- m$ h
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?5 Y$ `) b( U7 J3 y
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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& ?8 K. G/ Q5 ^. e  C0 KI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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0 t/ D& p+ o8 iLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
, X4 \' |* J& D, L& V3 g7 [9 o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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6 D& H8 g, ~- P" t$ t"不信也沒損失"- U6 b6 w# C* l# h
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
9 k( X9 k) f9 k8 n3 ibut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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# x1 e$ D( C# h4 G" Y9 A# S8 ?it's starting because we have sins......
/ t4 a$ R. S: v3 `satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 H% g6 g( b5 g# e) E7 m& Iour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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. w" |4 k( i+ V用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ `2 ]" Y! ]" J這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 ?. F2 v3 R* \# `3 m/ X如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  \9 t" V& @6 Y1 x
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,* x9 H5 K5 x" e- Y
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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, k! F9 @' n) F& g6 ~1 g不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* {2 j# D5 U: e) @% |+ i
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:- Y; e3 O. o; m. O8 m" K4 U! p
.............信耶穌... ...

, @, F, J0 z8 v6 RRegarding the resurrection....' }- }4 A. C  a( b% I
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 g' a/ f# x! N

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