Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ k# _: H$ u4 ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人! o$ b6 i9 L, t) ?0 u3 x8 |
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
5 m' n  C/ L, G  J道理我知道好多只係做吳到2 p# ~6 m" V, \; Z
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* n: v8 c" }+ C

, h8 C! [8 H  S, D0 n& Pstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  S% u2 O2 Q! L9 w/ h. gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!" {0 Z  G+ [* Q5 w) K" H+ S/ b% Q
我只不過微小的基督徒...................' J# b7 w8 A( k! Y
真的!!這不是反話
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- ^( f+ Z, V. `" v% X0 w% Z* J所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
1 Y% D0 Y! F2 ~1 ]/ a- F以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,9 j6 D+ A5 [6 Y! u
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:) S2 A" f4 f$ y9 g. [3 x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# @7 y* h& E6 |6 B* e! Y- AWhat a statement we have here?3 R. ~7 b# }3 @* \& J
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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9 G+ e8 \( t. I( k% c0 J3 K' e7 oI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:. o, w6 m+ @, ^$ p# L9 Z% p
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# H6 W# H) t" V+ |/ N"不信也沒損失"
; U3 \6 Z8 k. _9 _, P8 i  m  \Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......' v- p# E- w: ?$ }. I7 e+ B
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us + o4 n7 z9 L! s. r1 u# W5 ^
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"8 h% u; S, o5 ^1 M
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 P$ \/ b4 D4 W" r用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( N) O2 D7 m% g* s% [( [這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全9 a0 J. w/ {9 K0 ~; r+ O' i2 {
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' c# E4 @* j( z! d. k而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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* f) t% S) I% X% p7 e$ d2 d0 Z3 y1 A- @導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,2 x* w/ a% r) E/ c; k4 X0 B
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家," v6 V( E2 L4 p
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
. K$ o* ]5 m. R* w美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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* U2 B6 K* _# G  V吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
& `7 M) E3 ]9 i信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干2 C7 I2 [" i/ p+ i  j& {
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以下是其他人的見解,& L' x) e) f$ l' k
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 J6 R( y* x' h! o3 `1 O
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............6 Q; J2 o! `* J) S
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!% H: ~% v3 o9 s1 `1 P9 G

% D7 ~9 D$ F* m3 @6 N不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- {: x, Y4 g) T" J
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
3 Y5 i4 ^& u, q1 z, B2 a.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....( r' z. i, R$ @, d' s

7 x: a, D) Q- E$ OActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....! k, I/ Q# O  C5 a. d' u6 S
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.