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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:$ D, b5 a' Q% w/ \4 `
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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2 ~: M) }7 Q" M5 q! s2 n4 A& Z道理我知道好多只係做吳到6 X8 S+ G( ~! H) A
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" p3 S# g/ a* ]6 |2 J5 q  @, u

5 y8 J7 B: z9 V9 z8 S2 ?9 LNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 c% F, Z9 I. u& R/ \% H

' q, d- T/ Q, Dmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..... v) J8 V" ?" I- L& w& g" L
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
" `" k( Y' @4 W% |/ e$ W# ?cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 `! H" J# `3 X5 A' r/ u$ _' `1 {) p我只不過微小的基督徒...................
+ l6 i$ U) m0 G; q真的!!這不是反話
; \3 o* |. t0 _) q1 N7 k# K因為我是情感比理性強的人
! d1 I' M# t; {# y# n3 Q所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: }7 V) W! ]* |
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
/ d7 |) |1 Z- ?5 D在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...6 w# }) j* v6 U6 r7 e+ V" s7 N: r6 Z
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:' J' ]' n) n6 q/ [- p7 D/ o+ Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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' z5 X) ]& f5 a* I0 s$ i, h( _What a statement we have here?
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4 O6 k8 M  S  Z. T3 I# L4 W) FJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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0 u7 h: `" z, O& U- Z7 fI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.0 i+ }2 P0 {4 k3 c6 r. ^
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ i( x2 T! E' v, k5 D9 D- q
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:, p* g& o: M* V9 X6 T
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"; D& q8 ^  G- A+ F( W; {" T9 f2 A
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' _! S; P1 \* q" pbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
+ C0 g5 p2 l2 t# C8 z0 {) fsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us # ]5 B4 m# h+ _% ?
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
. h1 j* Y- t: Y+ [1 M只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,8 B5 a, s* z- X( o! u1 z+ @% z" ?
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,- n3 n& i& t/ C4 G
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
; Z: b' E; H) W: d. Q6 n; t, n5 |如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
% x; o; o2 Q$ t' O# O而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~, i: @( U. Q  Y5 m+ X

4 d- a; x$ I5 @/ A! o7 R  }導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
" n0 \0 z! q  d. R+ [5 f3 b, s好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, n7 f& c# x7 a; `0 [: N$ Z7 b一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,. |6 P7 q* U; @' n2 ~
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法/ ^# T" J& ]3 ^! R3 D6 T% Y& A
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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- k' G. Q/ ]5 w9 p+ r" w宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,) {7 m  [+ s  W6 r, S
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干; W; ?* `0 j4 H4 A9 r4 l% `

: Y/ v/ w8 [; s6 b2 [* J以下是其他人的見解,
! n0 T$ ~8 V( h0 e看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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6 H1 Q# q" N3 {% Y- v" s[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!9 l8 p3 r( Z4 ^6 l$ B' J; }* D

2 [6 a4 E: L  k8 @' j( S我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!. T8 w) Z" T% r, D+ x0 X5 f' x+ R

/ ^, n& s/ J5 b! z8 ^4 K同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 E+ b" i+ Z4 P* |$ ^* t, Y1 R
.............信耶穌... ...
, Y7 X% R$ `/ bRegarding the resurrection....
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# N2 f2 F) r5 ^& D! o. s6 w6 i. AActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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1 S* @- S" `4 u! h" w, R0 L. WYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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