Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 T3 D. ]6 n* I5 w1 z& A
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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" [8 N+ Z5 y8 G1 Q道理我知道好多只係做吳到& u+ }5 ], v6 p/ ]) |- ?
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% O( B* N2 q, K- g9 X% ~* c0 v
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! D( J. @& b; |
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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6 @4 A3 y: }# I3 p, [( I  _" _struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....# i" V3 I- D9 |# O! f# K
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' ^0 ?8 s6 e( K$ |( W% r" [/ `) e  F
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 Y& R7 |& e; K$ c8 U
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?1 ?* g0 g: |3 Q0 R7 G5 v
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.4 J% N0 K* M( u/ e4 E( r0 n7 _

% G8 K& X1 f. Q& {# o& O1 n$ x" HLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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$ ]- N( ]( v% ^3 x7 }8 x2 r"不信也沒損失"3 q2 J' C& h* G0 h( P
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....1 p0 Y& G% W' C
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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# ^+ B; D( K% d! tit's starting because we have sins....../ m4 l! z# Q* e: R( A0 k  r# u
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% b1 J# z2 {, i) S# E8 E
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,* D; R3 N3 h& v9 F1 G6 s! s# L. u
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) x( y" G% d$ Z' a& v
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  D. H3 ^0 j7 e# A! b0 H
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
* g& ^' r% H7 j# \9 v0 G! [5 `6 o7 `# I而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,. J2 P; C9 a: X6 w% |
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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" k/ t) u! d! w7 f! O一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( }! c- P" L& j
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法" x* S& F9 r. w' H
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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4 v6 ^: F9 h/ N/ I9 Z宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............( |5 i+ A1 b9 L% q8 w$ [( F
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; m. P% n7 Q$ L.............信耶穌... ...

; W3 {% u6 Q5 f/ N" p# uRegarding the resurrection..... T  W! R: s8 E0 h8 u( A8 y

3 V+ |, Z1 ^4 Q4 jActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....0 {1 }. Z  o$ c! U$ l2 \+ I& D
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.