Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
1 |- B/ ?% k! w& _我係一個連自己都吳信的人7 p7 a* a3 D; j; v
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
$ r9 m/ R$ m- C3 d; N4 g9 j. y道理我知道好多只係做吳到# G/ h$ u, C  ^& \
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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2 v& w8 a5 c& w% c/ A2 kNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 y# A- G% Y" T2 r2 S

: c# X( ~- J. t: amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
2 j* R- a) E! p" o  q0 J5 u- Scheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!) E' J. I6 I& _
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
6 E* B3 Q; f# n+ y" i真的!!這不是反話
: ^# k& m" m/ e& Y' k# b因為我是情感比理性強的人
; E9 a  m" U/ ^$ N5 A7 s! ^6 J: F所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  _: l; U- I( Y6 S
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,/ s/ q; v3 F; V9 T9 S# I
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
1 S  Z" i/ c/ P. l2 d6 D建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% y7 v( x/ Y5 m/ \I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: D! l- J3 r$ A! x1 [* ?
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 U, Z- u2 a* O5 ~, k2 z; n5 M
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:" c* S5 v' O5 v6 z1 m1 Y: }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" H5 F1 q6 g6 [; V) j$ ^"不信也沒損失"1 I+ r! ]; W! \- y( c' L6 B% A
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
6 B7 z- ~' k- s7 cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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8 K+ T6 M0 U+ R, m( Rit's starting because we have sins......
0 L( i4 n  V$ N+ |+ p3 Ssatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ! N2 g3 Z- K4 Y5 _! ~
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
  N. M! N! ?. M& Y% _只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊," k! W8 ^, ]* [
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
5 O0 L' ~* h" p$ P' t; a這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
. h. D% I7 b9 G. F如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& {& r5 f# g" g- p, Q
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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+ \4 k; R  K( u1 j; `導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
5 P! k8 j" H5 F8 [好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 x" t' H! r2 q8 m" ^9 k
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7 p' x& o# i& N3 G3 \% Q吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
2 o7 z: a+ N0 ^) C5 J, u信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干. s; f3 |  R# M) N

8 U6 |+ b" O! F; D" C以下是其他人的見解,
9 i6 e/ t( |+ L& M0 J, d, u! e看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 A5 G( v# m& B8 f* S
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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) Z. I7 i9 ~; W, S/ ^信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 o3 G: W( n9 m  U

" \3 M0 D3 m' _. S' N- w! v我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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6 A8 J: A; |1 X- b/ w7 p$ ]% g同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
+ A# y+ U. A* X.............信耶穌... ...

9 V; T' d6 b, y# M* wRegarding the resurrection....1 H" u, A2 S/ j7 s; Y/ [  x0 [
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....! z: G. \0 x# ?1 J1 p  w* g

1 ^, F9 h- N$ V+ {  [# ZYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.