Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 Y+ y1 m8 D% {2 K  V/ ~5 w我係一個連自己都吳信的人
1 Y. l& U" ?' a" J; l! }" C又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
  P9 O& E% g+ y, z8 S2 y$ S道理我知道好多只係做吳到; U. ?' E/ T$ t
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ N  F% i9 G! r$ h7 J0 N( E
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....+ b6 X6 R! ?" l) v0 q
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....+ V# ^; x0 ?2 z. _' Z/ m- L% g

' N6 g) l( B% _, |0 kstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- Q! o- {9 g2 K6 W! K
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話( z$ t( f0 U" o, Z  Y; o! k* W
因為我是情感比理性強的人6 x8 o$ o2 T) ?8 V" o. [8 |: e
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 m$ R. Z  {) o, S/ `以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 p+ p5 P0 Y" u7 i在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...7 L+ ]& ~( g% g" Y/ U
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" J$ B# [; @+ j3 B# x* _, y" }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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9 |5 q7 |& C* r% E5 Y' DLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo3 @: U0 ~0 x% ^& K

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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: r( O; H2 d7 V8 y"不信也沒損失"
5 R& k% M2 W- nYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....., U9 D; x/ b7 o1 ~( O
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......5 B% I& B# y. l6 U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( `4 L0 \$ @9 f0 H* ?9 Y& Bour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") M4 Y5 k/ m1 ^0 ^8 m, Q( b( |. K
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
+ j% P' Q+ `; l& y  X用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; X/ v5 H3 L$ q3 N. z$ V* j8 o
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
$ a. M  T, [- |! t# \( J5 E! v如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
+ N5 e/ m. M; p: A而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
/ n+ G; Q+ P& j- B1 f好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,( A8 R" W# H2 h0 Y' j8 `% J1 n9 x
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
, H; o- ]8 `9 R- v, t" W8 p" t改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
7 w$ R9 l6 f: z9 [美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具! {  G- ?0 f9 @7 q% X5 |+ N6 ^- r
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" K+ b- b- Z9 q$ C% V信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,% }) t( G# \! J7 _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 o7 q( J: A7 v" x/ l* n/ x' `
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!2 r9 R) r$ M: n
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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- X% t8 y# C- Q& x  z' ~, uRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- x$ s' ?& J$ O( g$ e  a# S, H

% O! _" j' H: ]You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.