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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:" @- H0 G, N+ b% F4 X# S' U
我係一個連自己都吳信的人: @9 b6 R: N% N' a* [
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢" Q" F. n5 b0 |/ W
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!) g. r  ^4 _( ~7 H

1 y% F. ]9 ~+ rNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* }, Y. o2 o- K9 L

( {# L5 m; _: X. qstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....) L0 C- ^8 Q8 J1 v. Z. ]
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!) y: s* W* u. c. Y/ K# r
我只不過微小的基督徒...................# e, `9 K! M$ m" O
真的!!這不是反話  A3 l+ {( I  S* `$ |
因為我是情感比理性強的人! k/ G* C  Z0 j% U" {3 o
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
0 H# B" H$ B% P8 e, b4 z4 V以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,) Z6 I& F! [" u: `! ^  k9 ~
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
3 Z/ @/ \* [1 _" z8 R1 c建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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& X! l5 O( ]# ]9 e# O3 q" nWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? , \- v/ o; ^2 j  z

$ m$ s2 f5 k8 U0 nI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* L8 c! I0 F; [6 M4 F

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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
  W1 a+ B  p6 D/ a4 V" G) m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 Z: O, n8 W- o! y; V"不信也沒損失"
7 r6 ?! a6 g: R- K" D9 _. H& V' vYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 ]1 Q, Y/ b2 d- a/ S" m# j2 Y0 E
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
+ h9 n; u8 s* isatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 5 C( J' L0 y6 R6 a& L
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ y4 Q3 _3 ]) X1 i
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 V' U- Q' w0 p1 h$ z2 v9 ^+ |用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: s5 D% j6 {) L4 d$ f' W5 K這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全. F1 N2 p5 Y$ b. H$ f: @0 o! u
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  {0 Q" E& }6 ?
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% r, D5 k! W" d( Q7 e- ^
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( t, k0 F6 T* h好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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* L! U0 e1 [; {! T: e一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
* U+ V+ g  Z9 x改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 K- Z; S5 u* J( y! a美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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+ x, d& z, o- O! [8 Y- E吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
1 S" X( t( V. s信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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  i, g2 a! m4 a* ?% s( Q# P, i以下是其他人的見解,; j- P$ ]# I' h/ ^; P
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤+ P+ ?. ^+ y- a* x2 W
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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4 M1 i8 R2 T$ ^5 J8 o( t[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- {9 ?$ \0 ~8 L, ^
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& o7 u7 {* G5 g4 o: h: s5 q

$ \9 |- p$ H% W3 s" Q6 W. |: S不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
2 i6 i- n7 K! F4 |' R/ l/ U.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....9 b' N+ [3 o+ o1 R: A( j
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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% B- E' ^! o" h! v7 r4 D8 pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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