Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:. J  d1 y  u  G5 u
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
; X* {; V2 m( {2 \7 M. K' a又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
, b8 Y: Z# R2 F" H0 s3 f道理我知道好多只係做吳到) V3 G3 J, j9 ?: T6 N3 |- G
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" ]+ ^4 R9 \* b" b

5 K2 A. w. \$ F2 }6 C' GNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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. q! l+ P4 y+ M  p! p; I/ Ystruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- U1 F0 t& d% t1 w: K  m
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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因為我是情感比理性強的人6 |# L; h" z; M( `  n6 c5 L
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,) e  B& y& H  E/ F& {1 H
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 n6 p- J6 `- G/ P# N& w
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 b/ r# g, t- VWhat a statement we have here?
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- u2 D3 e- q% A7 W. a, OJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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/ r; s* h2 w$ Z5 XI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# X, M% X; l# \# Z* {, n
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
- c- S' i/ a5 z; T" D建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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& m3 R1 v: Y5 Y' C* }2 v1 L) R% L"不信也沒損失"7 c, J" I% Y' n/ @1 A/ r. N4 N9 P
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......; z; [' n: P; q& z* f+ x9 Q
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 J* y# }1 D9 A6 |" m; Z2 i
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
! A6 p( G8 K# x$ K用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,* `7 ], d& ^7 R+ A. C2 g* ~" ?+ j
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
1 Q0 p+ g, U6 `如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( j1 _" N* t0 m$ k7 S而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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7 m7 T. ^2 {- h導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
3 l) V& Q( W2 M; S; J好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,4 `  U; @5 c  G3 b
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
4 V6 c8 H2 |' `0 X0 I6 J8 d3 {改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
3 J) K6 q2 `& N4 F% I6 B7 U2 N# e美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...( x+ o% M  }/ b6 ^+ }

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,) K3 T4 ]5 f( t
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干1 m; L1 _% y* _2 F1 T# J

$ G: O- ]: o6 |以下是其他人的見解,; u& r& W6 N' T6 {& W( x
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............" a: l6 n2 o+ u" B# t/ K

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6 \8 Q0 ^6 p$ o' a& l3 I不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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! h8 J% X! l, r7 M4 A我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ x% T& [# T; {( q5 A4 ^0 B; b+ p

7 `% j* v5 @4 z  M& i同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:" C1 z4 W0 u, m  g
.............信耶穌... ...

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! `6 C( z  K6 V) rYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.