Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:$ s5 b4 n1 S6 L, u% y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
; V) y4 ?, M1 {' @又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ Y1 ]- w# t& A' [. e
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
. Y! _( i, Q+ P! r& u呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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' p4 G/ o1 D' Y9 ?7 I6 L5 D- NNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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4 K1 ~8 m% N* M1 |mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!7 ?3 |* q4 x% o$ P
我只不過微小的基督徒..................., K, P2 A6 A6 v. j5 R
真的!!這不是反話
7 O% F) @+ @' o7 ]  K+ v+ a因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
0 ~3 e1 |* g+ u以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* t' \: ~  n2 X. \0 L& E+ z
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...( N' V5 Z. L. v% @, c
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 C$ O! f, x; H. O4 J2 b; x7 u
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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, h' G8 O1 z0 WWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 9 m. j. Q7 J/ F9 Z/ u; d2 v, I5 ^

! C5 n, a0 C8 j# ]5 V2 \I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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2 s3 m9 \4 B" r" X( GLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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6 \6 M% [+ `' ^6 N( Q1 L:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:, j2 u7 r8 b  p# ^% ]2 `
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
$ X) R4 w: w: N1 B' wYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....3 |9 o" d; B, ^) I* Q% C$ i: @
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......4 |+ B& t- h0 b: w

  ]. ~, f, o/ X2 a; ~it's starting because we have sins......8 @9 e1 l, Q8 a0 x( y4 H4 z- `- d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
# O4 R7 }8 M4 O& t8 sour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"' B& ~! A$ h0 A. Z0 m3 c; w3 H
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全- }6 c& ]' X9 }( `, {* S
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
, \( S# \2 S0 z& M而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  H# W/ S/ C3 f: d  v
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
& M5 E7 J% |! e好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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/ s/ u9 s2 f# `; B$ v& s5 O  Y9 w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,' ^) X6 l( Q9 ]6 k9 a5 Z+ E% x& t
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
8 ]4 m$ V6 ^# w! y' S7 ~% o, K2 w美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...4 n: i, R! E0 s, c
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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' m, `  X! t# q吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
5 g4 H8 U! D( m: D; _& X  ~! ]9 c信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干( W& h) F4 Q/ e8 g8 j  x
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以下是其他人的見解,; A, W3 y5 L9 R' l8 e
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤) T6 f  X, r: P( j
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!; i2 W, W# s' y* y( z
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
! K; N: b: l0 p- ]. m. W" `.............信耶穌... ...

1 n% Z  Y& ]; q  k# ~$ g  KRegarding the resurrection....1 S8 r. F) q; }9 C3 z$ P

. i! @4 A  G0 ~Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 W0 E0 g; n5 Q0 q! ^7 _

7 M* r5 N* q, ^You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.