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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
" t- @* J; r  k6 N6 @我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到. ]( ]+ \1 ]. d! y" ~" m! h
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' X  o& r4 O5 D3 |: @4 _8 ^4 D

) r2 _. a5 P  l, Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 Y3 A/ \2 _4 Z4 M
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
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我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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* s, L& e6 u7 R+ G因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,7 Z% U5 f- h1 t; a# R- |2 u% {
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& [" H% I% v: u* w1 |/ z2 s
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...8 u! p: v) `# g
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
0 \9 Q6 ~' Y& V8 k建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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( F4 b: m3 z& q' MWhat a statement we have here?6 j8 h% L9 `# y3 G- M5 n! x- }# K

5 _& B  T8 p; x  q1 h2 s7 ?Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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2 x  y" O+ M* {1 G4 V( t* x[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
' o- H& e- ]; ^' ^建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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% _* b' m4 L8 D" Z$ N"不信也沒損失"9 ?4 u: M" r& s/ e
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) \0 I  {& O2 v# U/ K0 t, y# L1 s
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......0 W7 N  S2 p* `/ Q

" Q1 F* d" Z  h0 x0 u4 dit's starting because we have sins......$ X& `* O9 f! E, V
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 0 y; L0 H* q  S( u, r- W
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# P" J: s9 i1 V9 |只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 V* {- ]* L7 p用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& ]8 `; T5 x1 ^2 j! {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
5 D, A1 W" u' @% }: L, q如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
* U- D; P. B$ f2 V, w3 f而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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- G( Z' i) l" J  b# w/ f導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
' Z, E0 E' D/ W! T: W! q好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 Q( |- p8 X% m6 _
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
6 \8 Y( l. F) M/ }改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
* F3 c" Z& S0 Q7 f- L美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...& @) |. X1 y9 z1 k7 H6 ]
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具7 e6 Z% I  s* m( p: p% h3 M
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,7 x" W; Z, Y2 f- t; \6 p. N$ r4 Q
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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8 z7 j2 C% Z3 G+ p# R5 [* O; o以下是其他人的見解,
0 V7 @8 u0 s1 {- p2 `" T看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!! [. }5 ~! i4 j! A

$ c7 C6 R9 r2 U不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 F$ K4 e7 M) _4 H8 E
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! G5 q7 {+ P3 E) V6 e9 e1 V0 r. o5 d

/ y* b; {0 P- n; P' e$ Y0 N0 S同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% {( t! `  k3 B* W' V1 D9 N$ Y: A
.............信耶穌... ...
+ `, W  G$ h0 k0 i6 yRegarding the resurrection....3 t/ X- g% K' u& j- [
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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* A4 ?: [4 y- @2 K$ r' }You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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