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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 Z- p4 H! z) G* }# o; v! }+ H我係一個連自己都吳信的人
* D" B" Y7 t9 u3 t' P; Z又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* ?. J/ ]( B6 h) K
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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" g) D( H( M7 p) m+ m5 QNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ r6 }1 Q+ D& O# U/ t9 X% z! C6 sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 f5 M# N. Z! @( L1 E
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
! i0 \: e4 Q3 Z9 g$ L( g& A: G我只不過微小的基督徒...................
/ g- U- _; |! c/ F真的!!這不是反話
3 M3 Y0 V6 n- g' z因為我是情感比理性強的人$ A/ t' z3 J& t' X6 O
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, u( ^- l$ h% q5 F以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 f+ U! B; w3 u' D  C3 E6 {
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." c- Z/ E; Z! h
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:' q. z1 \8 o1 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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8 X7 h  I$ N8 A/ ~* U, nWhat a statement we have here?
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. O) }) P1 j2 g, r% uJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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' D4 t# s- z# t1 B- kLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- N! h; k$ @1 I
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# D/ D- ~8 j. d, I4 g7 E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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" N( y" t$ b! ]$ {' y  A' F"不信也沒損失"
5 m( [/ N/ [9 b* kYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 g& X" S) W8 }, |( }
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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. b& E* W* ?* `5 m% r9 `it's starting because we have sins......# Z: Y& J! a1 N/ y( r2 w
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
$ [& ]; ]' t) c* y+ p" p( cour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", w% N( p6 Y" A
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
9 P3 U: v' g2 P, D, D8 J用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
; ~/ ^; n( N" v. W7 m% U這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
" R) R% Y3 `, A6 R2 p6 F9 }1 {如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 ^9 Z4 B- ^+ W2 ?# v" M+ k
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~( d4 K1 v- `3 j! ?% W" ]' N
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
$ U" K; L5 K1 S9 r4 S3 Q5 L. V8 R& Y好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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* U0 H' Q) J5 D2 a. g一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ f' P3 I8 ~0 u3 G( W
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法- K1 @1 W) ?$ N9 `$ C" z$ Z8 s: o3 Z8 z
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...& ^! n: h/ a' m" U, C
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" ?9 Z; H1 N0 }1 b* i8 t信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干% f) l* O1 L" N2 \' n$ d+ \" }) e

8 N* q4 i: z0 t8 z; ~/ u: O以下是其他人的見解,
, K! R; |) f2 o1 g; Z# U0 p看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤! W$ `2 _5 ~8 _; o
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............5 C0 X& t- t5 J. y0 D% H
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!, t& t& x8 \& O0 H1 H6 c' \: E

' j/ U6 A/ ~3 [' b% _# c不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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: I% ~3 C) d6 Z9 S我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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/ K+ L/ x" R; X! m; A$ a同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:  Y1 Z5 U/ T4 e* w
.............信耶穌... ...
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: h5 {6 |! x! z* ?2 d0 n! F

% `  x- \# @0 r1 X4 oYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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