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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ V: r; g3 v6 M$ S我係一個連自己都吳信的人9 V  ?# W9 a% s9 ^
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
" K" t5 [8 U5 Z( F道理我知道好多只係做吳到9 e: N. E9 r* m: U
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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+ Q$ f" r6 w( }7 }) ^1 M) nNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!2 |1 \) O$ _6 f+ i4 ^

' v- z3 B" R  R( M3 \: x9 {1 DNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' K( G0 E: s* d0 i

: w2 @0 Q' G- u$ P: ]9 `, B" p7 Omr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....& [# e# V2 c# e7 S* h
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
, w/ V2 r& ]& [  o+ pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!( b; h9 ?1 [% H6 d" R* D$ V; ~5 }: B
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
# N1 u! F- Y/ R4 r0 r' R! S7 L" r6 h真的!!這不是反話
9 I; M' ~: ?, t因為我是情感比理性強的人
  e9 ~1 {  w3 e6 ?7 r" i) C; W, N所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! P4 w3 d! x) r
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 \) j% a! Y# D& p  ?# S$ n. t
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...* I5 A/ s, p% L4 }# K6 z
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
! J1 W8 }6 j9 `5 k4 _  \7 @- z: {& s8 |& p建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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( W) Z/ N2 D2 v2 t) H- OWhat a statement we have here?8 e' @) h) m7 z# I. d

$ x4 P3 t+ O7 Z1 Z+ B! s9 XJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! k2 V7 [3 F& u
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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: f' |9 u1 u4 l# P% A/ QLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( q" K+ V( p/ @) j8 d" H建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
9 y8 s1 `) B- u! h3 AYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: s" ~. M" w0 x! @  i$ ?& p
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......8 O, O- w, S; S* P
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it's starting because we have sins......
) f3 Q- ^( J5 T' ^, j* esatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 5 W% _/ \9 U6 I5 @  |  [
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
8 a4 n: q. l- x3 t8 P9 V- D只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& b" m5 m6 m  ?, U# ~# g
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,* _% w* l: @# a3 o7 t9 j
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全# y8 R+ Y2 }  k$ ]. j- ?$ a
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, m1 x. [. y5 I- T  n# s7 w
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~, b( @) J$ [. p) C; v: o
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,5 ~1 U+ M4 a  i. e( F
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,5 O3 D# ^$ Y" G
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,) @, s9 |' O' d+ k4 [) y( y9 U
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 ?7 {- }' k1 A; k3 K  r' N美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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* t* w3 r% _. K' R5 u5 H3 s* {. A宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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' r' i! U6 B. B/ ^  Y( }4 D  y吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! z2 b& n7 O* |# C
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干; b" R- s/ b. W
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以下是其他人的見解,
5 R; K) M" L6 w' U/ u看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤$ M' Z' X/ G5 f  {" w4 Y4 q
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm0 Z) I0 P7 p. T; b- F, \
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............, q1 \$ p6 P* N* r: ]0 @; h
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!- z$ i7 c6 c7 P' j' p

$ R; c! C8 [  ^% O8 D, e5 v不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!( v5 w( m1 F) k; z  k/ w+ m' }3 R

  V+ Y, k6 W1 U7 t  a+ L我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!) c$ R; _% e) ?
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, O1 v3 D8 w3 o1 f2 F; R; Y9 V
.............信耶穌... ...
6 ^5 W- `% W" S# a7 hRegarding the resurrection...." n. Y& x  P" ?8 L7 H5 x

' C; d/ Z# I5 `  n& Y1 zActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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