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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
' Q; j  M+ E1 G1 L我係一個連自己都吳信的人5 j. I7 @2 y: h0 \" o* @. d
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 }. R: L2 T0 k道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 x* ^5 h- w; h
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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. k/ G0 ~  d0 [1 n* s4 A3 Z* x3 Omr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...., l! V( ]4 U4 P; ~& C/ _8 |

9 |/ V& I. s8 qstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 B. O( o! ]( I6 ]2 f) pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!2 ^6 `0 J: D1 @; t
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人& ^& F! `2 Q5 @' B" U: c
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: z1 V% ~2 f# ^8 _; S) a5 C
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據," g0 Q9 X* ?) T! ~! W. B3 u3 I; T
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 d; ]4 x" r5 R" c) {8 |7 \, G  b
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 _; y  i; M, I+ S8 s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? - ^# {: Z1 ^0 P% d+ Q6 ~" {6 _- m( i

9 {, Z% r5 \9 N; L$ QI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! F- l- q. S, ?

  f3 k3 L' p; C' O6 aLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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: H. b/ C3 N( C[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:. Z8 ^) O$ h' ^5 P# H$ m; c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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; F0 R: ^) }8 F' d( G"不信也沒損失"
5 O( l& N5 r, b2 _$ }# z3 E0 ^Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 n6 ^% \( f. u, Z
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......" K1 g/ a0 `7 H9 C! X6 S
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
$ ^+ @, I+ C" i' `4 w1 g7 r7 pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"" s6 K! ]" C2 r2 h$ W( h
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: l! p/ c7 J  l% _7 `5 S
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
3 Z8 ^/ @& x, ~# B這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ d6 v$ j7 P; T* }
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
9 r. u+ g0 Z, }- L' L而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~0 _; U' t. N3 L6 M4 [- r; x" B
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
3 y7 L* Y* H. C- x. I- ]% I好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,  {7 D! @" s1 B) W; Z
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...2 `3 v6 L1 J9 |  L3 \" J5 t
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具2 w- `9 R) M3 ?  }; z8 E4 O. ?

: _* m: n0 Z3 e, v/ r0 M* _吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: T0 q1 x0 X7 |# t9 A
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干1 s* Q% o7 i9 k9 H3 ?. }( s  L! I

$ ]9 R. n6 {9 E: o8 I以下是其他人的見解,( P4 v1 S+ B7 ~- J
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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* o$ ]  P' M  y0 }! _1 Z0 f[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............4 o. ?* |# t) d

* f6 C$ P8 y9 S. N% |$ c信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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% e9 k# |# {: k$ A8 {) I% C5 e不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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" M0 |- l; n% ^' R3 J0 n我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
* n" p  P; v- O- m.............信耶穌... ...
0 X0 K  Z1 W( l9 j1 [: J+ QRegarding the resurrection....9 A: O. G/ ~1 P

1 d$ p% R) [. ?& a2 QActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....  O0 e% J! O; `/ f; x: ^0 E
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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