Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ c6 Y; G& Y+ e7 h4 S; F我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 c5 N) W$ A+ v; X5 x. {
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
: B3 L! D3 h3 |' |+ C; T4 r) `道理我知道好多只係做吳到- f/ d7 `/ p! P1 C( X
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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7 H! U: @3 U3 n! M1 |, n. gNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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2 P' @$ S8 q* ~9 {9 r% }3 xNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies..../ V( S% A2 X7 a) c
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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/ x7 t* {) n* N5 l3 Hstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
( ^8 F5 S$ t9 Z; Scheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ w; \: Q7 o4 s( I8 x* P' x2 Q我只不過微小的基督徒...................
7 l! Q% p' Y# ?9 l+ z真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
: D/ m/ Y8 h+ l# r9 d6 Y以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! d0 j4 C: |3 v, ]& A  [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...: w; `# X' H, v; w& j
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:2 w9 ?" [- P" E1 P
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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1 v& a+ \5 {( M; O2 b0 aWhat a statement we have here?' m# O8 ]: Z# J/ e
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ Y. [: O+ g7 Z  ~5 e9 m/ D
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.9 e' W- l' E: [

  j) j4 G5 u/ I) O9 YLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo2 B3 b0 |  A) S4 \; b( [' H: X
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ O# N( a: Z  U7 M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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- n) y5 |$ k4 D& u5 ?"不信也沒損失"- p9 N8 p1 f" h1 E' \
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
! s5 |. B8 ?) W: D; \: D% z& |but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; A; b. H. X; d+ C) k/ C

6 b& y$ k. F: E! R* R) Nit's starting because we have sins......% t. T0 J5 O6 A
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us # U5 z6 W/ ^. E
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) t& X( ~& y# A只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
3 n5 L0 ~5 S$ z6 o& w用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( \! f/ _0 o, K. W7 m9 }這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全7 U$ E* N) j5 X) A
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,( G' j/ n. a! J! n- U$ |
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~. c) W& d: F' g2 w  B' x

8 h2 Q0 e  B  P* a* z, o導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
" ?. N& ^' f' R好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
  {) ?0 M2 m/ [' ?改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  b& a5 \% W! @
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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- ]% p- b9 C! M: d4 u- A1 s1 b( }宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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. W$ S; w% W; }9 I吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,0 G3 G' g) {/ \4 P
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,0 J4 H2 u4 U9 E4 ^
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............4 U. ?' H& ]9 n, w' n# Z
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!# |/ S! ~+ F! g! g9 L+ U

0 {  S0 [) H% g不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!4 G: M" E% ^- [; h
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
! m: a% C+ h5 u3 U.............信耶穌... ...

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/ Q7 L) L5 i9 q7 _. C" D+ CActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....4 L3 P% G5 g0 Z+ J3 m- c5 H  a

8 M+ Q. R# W! \, D# SYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.