Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:/ c9 f' {. P: A* r7 }( }
我係一個連自己都吳信的人3 n6 X" O0 z3 w% j( a3 H
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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$ M5 l( j$ f' \7 r1 J呢D就係做人的悲哀

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- o2 a. I+ ^& L7 V7 j$ iNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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& L5 k/ }, s! M' Q  Z* l" dNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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' F) @2 x& d# t* bmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, ~2 L; M. l# s5 I1 {2 }7 Bstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
8 s6 u& s# S: Q6 W我只不過微小的基督徒...................
3 ]; C6 d- V/ U* {5 w" T$ z" L3 U真的!!這不是反話
# B3 f, `' }: n( l  B因為我是情感比理性強的人4 y0 k& f. Q+ E: _0 H1 {
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  @, ?7 p" Q3 G1 t2 C: C
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- ^3 e6 D6 C% L1 t6 B! l/ K2 m/ u* w
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...2 J; B) N! j  e
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 v, ^8 v0 j8 e7 E2 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" ?6 d; f" r) m3 D3 tWhat a statement we have here?
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- b) ~% J, L! m$ S7 KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 5 C4 j: u. U/ V3 N7 V9 T& y  b; j
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:' ^/ j& k3 v+ @6 y2 I* Z0 z4 h4 ]) ?
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
! K3 x5 d  }" O' @" k6 EYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....5 q6 T2 d. w" U  `) M
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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4 k$ G; [' {3 {it's starting because we have sins......: L. r) N; [$ G$ y" n
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 w' [9 g! Z8 S! G
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: x4 ?& l: b& N7 `3 q
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ [& x& I$ @8 |) U) f5 Q如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
! M0 }7 ]4 E6 h2 r! i3 d2 F而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,9 |6 F! y# r- K
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...$ i: V1 J( }0 C- _+ a+ S+ s" ?

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
6 k4 N# q1 ?- t% ~信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干! N. k0 j# u) C
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# W4 l/ J/ V( y2 L! j: c% O9 Q0 q& d

: {* U, x6 s8 a" Q4 ?/ E信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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2 K% E) O% d( T. b* O: N, J' |/ c' [5 g不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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! f; {8 d1 T' `- m/ \( N1 Y  ^2 X我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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6 O0 a3 r/ G* @3 i* \+ F! G同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; y! l; y4 J6 L8 ^0 n. x, R' }3 f& J% A.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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$ n' z& k) v) l3 q5 N* ~% @$ `Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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6 y) P/ R# Y/ A0 hYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.