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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:* ~$ x6 w# v2 I! e
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
4 l6 V* u2 `! ]) D. Z" Q  j又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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, z* d) t$ u, ?  k& ~& s$ o) a呢D就係做人的悲哀
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' l8 C- l: B+ i- k/ g' @; f# RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( t$ F5 d' _( [
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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8 k  S5 U7 g" |% qmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! G2 `. ~) w  ]" ^
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!. s0 _. r- G6 o1 m1 C: o
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人% X9 k3 O8 ^' J7 @- b( w& C
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 t. Z% C6 ]0 i$ [& T
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
' U. h2 }8 W% G* y: J6 w在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 w# Z2 p) `( ?0 i0 ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?$ z. _) v4 v7 L2 r6 \
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? + R; R' R8 v  J" T/ y; }$ F

" B# ]! l2 w9 n; ^; _( BI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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( H1 ?) e6 U. G3 YLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
- f5 l$ ~: W2 h( j" j- X建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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) m7 G* o- ]# s"不信也沒損失"
9 a1 o) h3 U; _1 P0 ^1 L7 j7 I- kYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
: e7 I: o9 u: _; j1 Dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......# h( m/ [$ ?; p* y
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us + G1 A, w, x7 u$ |
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,( @7 d- l7 t# n1 O% J& O
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 P) r2 ^9 `0 }' Y如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* }$ h0 v9 k0 L7 [! r. D
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~  a+ m/ I8 {* s' N1 y- O, Q
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,5 j- r, j& b/ M5 v5 g* V
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,1 L  Z) ]1 P% ]; J# S' F

5 x6 S% s6 `2 K( A, {; {+ d" m一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 {- b, j+ U- B4 b
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
% M% o+ z1 E4 r: Y0 [美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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0 m% |% a" R, N7 S2 k以下是其他人的見解,
/ T% A, N" T2 D' v, q看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤3 I' W9 c5 u6 ^# {/ B) r- {
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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" f3 Y! j" s  i5 z( b[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!3 X+ m& a2 R, J7 d5 _0 A
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 ?9 q3 U; o. N& q3 N0 v/ q& t) l.............信耶穌... ...
  J* y( `; n  X- L& a8 fRegarding the resurrection....$ _7 A1 Y; S: `6 Q, G# ?6 Y

& Y, [  T: U7 A1 K% YActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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