Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: }5 |6 o( [- |4 H! i我係一個連自己都吳信的人
8 [5 ]! g) ~& v9 A又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢" t- [8 C( j. E3 R5 w9 }
道理我知道好多只係做吳到8 O% \+ }: U8 t$ E! A+ `
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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5 `& n: W1 F4 G8 C" m: kNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!8 P0 Y, _  m) B- ~" `- Y4 }

& q$ w( d6 @3 m5 D& vNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! p6 B+ o5 s! b) g& x. N
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 `5 \$ f) x  V8 S+ ]

6 E% x9 ]" M" j8 t' b; Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
& x0 q7 y) B: s  }3 v' n/ x! s  |cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
% X2 `" c1 R, C4 s# x我只不過微小的基督徒...................
2 D5 V; Z% i, I) x# l真的!!這不是反話
# L  M. e: h1 d( f因為我是情感比理性強的人
$ J4 G2 W! Q- }" j: b所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
8 n; ~- Y) O* n( F8 d以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
5 b3 ?: E2 Z% C2 l/ U1 h在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
" a# n' m1 i( \. h正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:4 U3 S7 T! L8 f/ A$ f; A
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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% t& [3 y& a" |What a statement we have here?* I+ h; e8 `% ^( e

5 E. z# J& Q* nJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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$ P# E# `2 w+ z$ k& s( AI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; h% w; a8 {- q3 F. n

7 T3 [; H. d; b' V: bLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:6 e& Y. t4 W+ a6 M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
' I4 o: k4 q* ]  rYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....3 e, d, D1 S( x' |5 h( l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
$ j) |) I6 S  v) h3 xsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 u) w- w8 t/ J" `our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
" F7 `% r0 K" o1 {& a. a2 Q8 M只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
4 ^3 z- p) N4 I$ T7 U. \用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,1 ]' |4 T8 ^" ]
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; ]1 |2 k( H2 b6 K! I' c6 _' W. }0 M# A
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  e! H6 l- C. ~  e) O
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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; |$ f; q# t( l8 k; K2 z) Q導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,/ c2 X& n  ?1 m. b9 M
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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  v8 D' |# q6 {, H" y0 c6 t8 z一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
& ~1 ]7 p3 |5 K4 z7 e6 o) M& q改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
4 p% k, W3 K. J+ B( J( C' R+ Y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...7 ]3 Q+ q/ Z: }4 C
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具/ U/ ~- O/ O8 L( s, ]4 i* n

0 L8 C, B, x/ p1 H吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 ~& j* [% l  u' Y
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干6 c% L! Z! ^  c7 D% [
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以下是其他人的見解,
3 q) m2 C& Q) C1 S; u1 A  l看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- }) i. b  E9 E# {- \2 o4 M5 W
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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8 }7 M# h0 V6 p信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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& G) r0 D# ~( T6 K! n2 g同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:  c; Z: U4 G2 u8 V5 M8 G- @
.............信耶穌... ...

. @1 L0 n- s# V: w7 |$ s0 eRegarding the resurrection....( d; j+ B. r/ P; f, M6 ~

/ W) W3 D: v- ?) TActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ h( V* ~& i( g6 J

- T" I6 C, A7 |6 T- KYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.