Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 I6 N& V" O+ E: j我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 H& {# d# U2 ^- D9 m9 g
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 m* X3 s: x8 j
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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8 w- c  h+ k6 T1 Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ X6 X7 |2 o) n& n: }4 v% Y
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
2 R1 y, K) t3 M$ n6 ?. J我只不過微小的基督徒...................8 ?$ X9 @/ I" q& L& P
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
1 d1 v* c( ?1 G. v以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
; O) l5 z( `: `# o9 K7 w3 p4 V在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ v( x  `, I( n7 ^; H
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:1 R1 p2 S9 @  q, S  E7 ?& H
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 {1 I/ R( u3 b6 h* m5 cWhat a statement we have here?
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0 F9 H" B7 c: xJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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- e2 N* V+ b9 p: O4 ?& \1 LI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ w: i' E7 j' `  x* V
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
& t9 n7 D8 d# X) Z" e/ M0 s; P建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"3 S& z2 s. x; Q# v, ~. l% x
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' J3 F0 N* r0 n/ }+ J- i& kbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
5 T! S1 w2 l2 B! t4 q7 d: t* Lsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) K, r# l9 Z  @3 ?+ b+ y6 C# T
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"' K! h* e. t# U4 Z( y0 M9 X8 u
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& ]: I6 Z) r6 k/ S$ D2 o! n
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! k: e: E1 ~# Q$ @5 d
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ _  e1 t! d8 G7 ~) H
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) B. ?& A$ Z( G
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% x2 ~- Q+ S* y
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
6 U! i( v3 t0 U6 q* D好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,+ \" t% {5 ~4 \7 v! }/ e- k3 [
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...) h! F! [4 [* ]0 t, Q

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,+ Z; y' x7 F- b- @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干+ }1 T3 [% M- m6 d* ~, W- Y. k
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以下是其他人的見解," d/ D, ^0 ~/ M. U3 D- e
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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8 T# s* P0 v' E8 z( k* q信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!6 }. T  ]" i; E; w" v. v
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!0 x5 _' g6 i) q1 P+ w% l. b2 Q

4 _5 V" b1 J* O4 f  C我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, ?8 k! Q) w6 S
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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( T. |0 l) C/ T$ A, a+ \6 GActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..../ I5 y/ j% E' s2 E1 n, ]1 H0 r" Z
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.