Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
8 T+ u0 H' g% j* B$ N  |我係一個連自己都吳信的人
/ ~2 Q1 b7 h* d* _% f又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
3 ]/ {$ @; M) u+ S/ q9 \道理我知道好多只係做吳到
. e6 H, B, V7 u* `/ ?呢D就係做人的悲哀

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8 z5 N4 b6 Z7 m8 o- ZNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!: O, }: F! m0 ~3 @

" @, R) }5 @9 [- E( G% SNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
* n  z- p, M, Rcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
! a& _8 \* w' l# v3 h6 ^0 d我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 M! F0 J5 P# _) V真的!!這不是反話# Q! ]4 M, y1 O# X5 ]/ s
因為我是情感比理性強的人* R/ i" U1 L2 W6 H4 J( P" \
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,+ i3 e' g' ]6 K- D
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 P* a& |6 z# b0 I( o5 y; d- u在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& j9 n6 k7 @9 {# ^
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:! W+ L, A" y- b9 ]' A, e# c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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1 W3 z# ?, V! i" g& f- {2 H- K8 ]What a statement we have here?, _" ]% N8 h: f+ U2 ~

; R& G: a9 A6 ^: g$ L+ |$ T1 e1 }Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 9 Q$ d' B, {  q) P0 @
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread." n3 I3 t- G3 W4 |

: r7 i9 H) H* Y1 W9 z  @Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo! R1 L/ o3 z. \& t* H

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:9 Q* O+ M& @! E$ `
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ a0 B9 K0 u0 @but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
  p' c  W9 c8 e+ Xsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
# H5 w! A) x4 Y* {" u/ O4 Wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"6 P$ g* _$ |. O4 ]; V
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
  a+ U6 E; E  ?. n* H( l% s用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! s; Y# f& P0 d3 G
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
% _3 l( j" P! m+ O如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
7 R7 u8 p/ m  v9 s2 `而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
: R- k8 F- i9 {+ Q5 m( j4 m好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' U5 h! h! T9 N3 i( I
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,5 p: D& M$ ~4 E: _7 U
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  i# y: c8 |5 J* M
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰.../ r; _+ S/ Y' E' r* ~

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+ B3 C! o; J, n' f2 y2 A$ D吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 B7 t8 B% P) C5 x* h
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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: {# A4 L. S$ u! \5 }我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* h. m7 a+ I% w6 y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:. v* y; Z! y# c/ C: ?
.............信耶穌... ...

, e* N, |6 u7 ARegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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5 f+ e5 L5 e5 T7 c" KYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.