Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢9 M3 V# I: ~2 L
道理我知道好多只係做吳到5 ]: U% n' D8 K$ z2 L' h/ w
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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  Y1 s4 B! V  l* h% x( |Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( R% }6 S; P' h' ^
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' b$ @0 k) n- T4 P- a

/ o( `8 y' }! P. ^mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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/ m5 k2 U, i3 c# [% B$ Lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- r, ^9 ]" x6 U  @0 n
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!" y7 g% M1 f; a4 r
我只不過微小的基督徒...................0 i2 e! s8 L2 T) g8 p5 w; M! A# P
真的!!這不是反話- W6 U+ W0 P1 {% K, l/ l
因為我是情感比理性強的人6 A- t$ w9 K; \& q
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
/ C" \+ L$ X' `7 w; w. ]以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
: _, w# K: c- F6 X$ u% U3 p0 r在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:8 h7 \# B3 @! L
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* z! m. g9 |, u/ p, O1 b( y" |/ JWhat a statement we have here?
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6 q$ C7 p  t+ ]7 p4 bJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) S# Y. z+ f: Z! X  _% R) v$ v

/ o# K  P6 ?3 m7 g4 V( ]6 ZLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* i3 T7 b( u! d, b
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ x% K- k- r7 ~; W  f) C! c9 d
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 F6 d+ k) T. m4 z, i( c"不信也沒損失"4 A1 m6 P% s9 r& b! ?! D
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' U, `* ]7 @& M" p' \6 zbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
' B6 I$ L. W0 R! `+ }# P$ tsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 x; B- Z5 L0 J/ Jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
& o$ v2 U* [( u9 q% |只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全) S6 d7 o( W6 h' Z
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ T. x- c& Z) p3 x: M% @而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% [, Q5 {1 m5 i! ~; |0 ?

) M; W; A$ g4 k- H+ G$ I, v導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,& |4 i! C- Q6 J0 J- ~( D
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,  B/ f5 O( V3 t9 m$ a7 g& i9 ?
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具: \0 q* e# m3 s: ~& u  U7 N  Q0 j
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,* f6 {# u& x. O; ?6 \& @, Q/ \
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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3 r% G% Y1 G2 h$ O& b. O  o* k/ h以下是其他人的見解,1 D2 ^) n3 P4 H% u
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤" `7 b' S2 j2 x6 i3 U: Z
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm% I# {* `8 x2 v
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: @+ }6 e$ q; E& K) X' @8 R
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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8 m" N% e  g9 K3 F' l$ u4 j- ]不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! E9 I4 b% q0 I5 {  B* j
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
4 f' {3 o3 o! o3 ~& r. C.............信耶穌... ...

9 _, J3 L9 P2 s$ C! v# JRegarding the resurrection....
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# }' m" `2 I+ y+ `# b: f5 _! BActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.