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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ P3 ^$ i- K# p" N1 w  i" E我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! m# u) t, e& k5 i0 k# a2 x$ ?又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢. C2 a; ~7 @/ e( E6 F9 ^
道理我知道好多只係做吳到% p$ ?+ V. A# W" L9 m+ G/ S
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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8 Z1 Q) J( L4 b) {6 xNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 a0 P3 O5 \  _% `

2 m$ `3 u# {0 ^* f* t8 _Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! F0 U- I, C! |8 A+ C6 k
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....9 L3 V$ k3 j' r- c  o& @: Y7 z

% D1 }# N  ?3 Bstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  b% w$ F/ K$ J" D+ Q4 X7 ?cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
  V4 l2 I1 I. r  ^4 o; E% \我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
4 b1 B% C; U" y2 {3 n3 P6 }; N所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: g) }. z, M7 V
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
4 Z( v: J( u9 k在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...# e4 a2 s1 E5 V5 L
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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. A- x* ~8 {5 N5 w" ?) |What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ( a) [3 _% i5 b- ^. ~

& [4 i* I4 |2 Q6 x6 y- sI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo7 _6 o( e  Z$ S6 N5 ~8 P

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:) C# J1 ?8 U2 v" A" ]' @* b- Z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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! b6 V; ]* Z8 t- a: ~7 h2 r. J"不信也沒損失"- }, r9 Y6 k2 o; n
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 s- p  [- |9 O$ r9 S, V; {3 Sbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 ^$ {8 \* ?* R

- F) S+ b7 p% N" F6 Kit's starting because we have sins......
5 V( w/ m  W8 P0 k5 Vsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 9 |& }4 L; {* F( ^" x% v- K/ j
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; J; e: ]. N- H  }, L
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,* s- N. l6 s1 I; u
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,) N- M% g7 x1 `: j9 H
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全" l$ u2 E! O0 Q! F) |) ?' E
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) n% s: n4 L& A* ?- |
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,& @( V4 b, H# \, [6 h- c1 P$ O  m
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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1 [7 c7 Q* v- Y+ ~" w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
9 ^, W3 M  E7 d3 k/ z  @, [改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( t5 m  k/ _' a- Z0 E0 N  X  ?
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具  r3 S+ H# R( e7 }
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,& B9 A% ^2 r1 `( i8 O) O
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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. P% ?) G2 x- F! N& e1 m以下是其他人的見解," ?  k# N; P% P- O5 \. N
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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: I* o+ D" c1 [2 [. G5 a2 t信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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1 m% w' l4 W0 g: g7 d+ F不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!2 Q/ J% ~& B0 y$ F
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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' P7 o0 K# Z1 H3 W7 ?  I& }$ t/ H同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:2 y: o* {2 J3 M. @4 c5 J9 A
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....( F7 g2 c; I  H; G: s& T; u

4 c; u* n* [) l4 E4 kActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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# Q6 }3 K: s2 X/ @1 F( IYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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