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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:! ]. t3 \  G2 _$ m) }9 X
我係一個連自己都吳信的人# W; @) b* O( o. v8 I
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' `, Q  M% A% p: G
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
0 M/ e! i' v( W2 \呢D就係做人的悲哀
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4 L# a( N& D- ZNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....- A7 C- {% P( h
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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2 q! B6 ?6 A8 C' W/ l% \+ Jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...... ?: l4 D7 e! b2 T& G3 ?
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
9 f0 a$ S; z. [* P3 K% \$ L1 v5 |+ d我只不過微小的基督徒...................
! t! t7 |/ x' `' S! s真的!!這不是反話
/ E& |  Q' k7 H5 b3 v' _3 y! U因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
  q( S7 A3 ~" G以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,% [3 p) g: @; ]
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...5 t+ ?" U8 Z8 H  g
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
1 v4 {+ V" ]; [$ r, f  P7 z9 |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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& T2 [" a) M# Q1 ~1 a3 ~What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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1 D( y* g6 v6 k8 h2 r5 Q2 M6 CLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ Z$ E- n& ~* m0 F, W
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 h$ {6 |5 }5 U# G0 f1 A建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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6 B: ~& @( w; q% B, I"不信也沒損失"
" M8 E( b- Z2 i: J; yYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
) h0 d8 s0 _1 a" s0 nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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% y7 u7 o& o/ i+ u  Eit's starting because we have sins......
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; y7 F- d& k' c7 v' t. f( Cour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,+ D9 s. s5 b# [
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  D: S9 E5 h' g1 v& m5 B: g' I
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
* R- C6 M4 N; E, a  w6 G9 o而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,- l: f% |: I% |5 h
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,# u4 h& e4 T! R4 S% A
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法. J" q0 J4 X. e. C. G+ _
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...5 p! B) `& t! w( x0 s1 m, }

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4 ^( @! z. f0 }# {4 o8 C, _吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
/ F! K. x: ?( F# U信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干4 M+ V' U- D( g) P

1 W- T9 |& l9 g2 |, O3 V* D* M6 e: C. C以下是其他人的見解,
' {& G( z1 w+ ]0 c5 T: ^. ~! p: A3 f9 r看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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6 `. x! |6 q- r8 A* d' d( A9 `[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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& `7 Q: c! I9 ?. M( ~, g不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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. a: ~3 @, s5 f) o- Q7 @( {我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 n. }6 [' O  k3 i; x
.............信耶穌... ...
% p" E5 \+ `& M, a# Y3 S- I9 E: xRegarding the resurrection..../ F5 P7 e6 c  I  n" D; u9 M
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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