Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:6 M* t/ T1 t7 _, }0 G' {7 a
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" Z" s& [5 y$ }呢D就係做人的悲哀

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7 T9 k2 I# J0 _5 P- o( Y3 N* x" }Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....  E3 a3 z/ s5 X  V7 v# K9 c% ~% \
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, k0 _5 [' l3 y. w. p$ Q. [# Y/ @struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 U- ]  L5 G( S1 [5 m, ]
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
3 t" D& J# F( n我只不過微小的基督徒.................... r2 x6 Y* K. a/ P( V" g
真的!!這不是反話
9 M/ v( m8 O% b, D7 I因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
  [9 W3 X, y. x1 o3 D8 @( C以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
0 D& K1 M: y+ f3 e4 S* Q2 G在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 L* ?" W5 f  }4 j
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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$ c# H' X8 m$ U; NWhat a statement we have here?* h+ a: [, x. m8 i8 p' b7 z% {* `
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! Q2 g0 q- V) S4 O* ]

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3 x1 M9 f- y, ?- V[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
4 M% e/ n7 g% f1 h! c/ G. x" i0 \Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." S/ L4 B# }6 G% L" @" i
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......( c' I! l, o/ y4 l5 T, \

1 U: Y$ ]+ h, Z# G1 r- u& Xit's starting because we have sins......
! l/ _) S; Q' s% b" Fsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 5 d+ c% [8 \/ E5 O" g; `! T
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
: ]' e, M7 e- v' Y6 b只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
5 y+ ?' J+ O' U" m2 ~/ M' S5 _用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 O0 w9 \8 r- t! f6 P這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全7 Z' K( ]; q1 B# \& _
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,# c% `- R- b  u7 P
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' h7 `4 O9 s. ^4 d5 Y9 v( |
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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: o) |! E7 w* u+ W# I" }1 O2 W) q2 z  k一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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# W8 o$ h" f( Y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...  v7 }0 S8 K% ~3 c( C' w

: @; O- @  v% q. [宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" n  ]7 v! \* |- y% c' F信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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/ J- T$ P7 N1 a& R: c以下是其他人的見解,
8 U+ n) x& G  t看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤1 J9 g$ A' |) P" Q+ X$ }5 z1 T
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!% O: k- s( f$ |3 B& z
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!) h7 P. x0 y8 P8 l9 ]
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
# U8 x* N6 h9 j& r& {7 `.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....; B4 C  k6 J$ Z9 ?

6 m& h9 u" M, b1 u' s) ?( o  Y( ^Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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$ l" r# a' Q" _* m, FYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.