Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:; |1 o$ O+ @, y6 H; {; t
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
; n8 a# Z$ h9 I. \呢D就係做人的悲哀

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1 q! F, w# Z* j  A! J' e3 I4 W* wNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!. Q3 J- k2 f, X9 Y  j+ s
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# b- p+ S! [/ x* _

$ g$ c' {; G! H, g  h8 w5 vstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 u7 F( \/ o0 @# k# F& t! ucheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
# S' B% X8 e* X* }, j2 y9 z我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 r& D" O: e$ r5 {真的!!這不是反話1 X, ?+ k+ j" o* b0 }
因為我是情感比理性強的人' b7 C( t4 i' T+ b# P+ f# P4 ~
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 F7 k& v6 l  f' T* E
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
, u, [* r3 H/ d& k在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
. j" W) P1 z. m' c0 b建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?8 c' p2 d% K2 T. m3 K

: `. g, O& T# T0 L4 R& _Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.8 v/ l2 `, k- ^* o

1 B6 C. V6 s/ w! y/ ~Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 r. Z2 }  c7 s0 z$ m0 w2 _, f
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:& i  w5 J# D/ Y; A, C: F
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
  T3 K/ U, R; h' {; EYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....( q7 X. B$ N# O* t3 K
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......$ I5 b6 o, G# N- ~

* T+ V7 ^4 z  ~* D* \! s. git's starting because we have sins......
5 C( o7 v8 ?+ }/ a1 Xsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
! D' _7 A" s& j8 uour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
& e; P' S& F" a2 Y只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全1 H8 x6 I) O) |& f* H6 x, N
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 ^5 {5 ?0 i3 C# f) `. t. e7 n而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,6 ~7 P$ B$ W! u- X4 w9 M
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
, {+ a! R. Y( a' Q! }7 Y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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2 T4 _* C2 Z/ p/ }宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具0 j5 z( s! g9 X! V' [( y) n6 G$ u

. T0 ~* J9 {& }# Y& R吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
* Q+ F' u8 y1 S) f9 C3 B信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干6 {6 ]* Q- T. u' L8 ^. ~
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- P8 f+ k  e$ m; `) }5 \
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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( T/ m# y4 M$ c$ i1 U不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!8 b8 K0 x* r2 V4 A4 G
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:& F. G& A6 J1 n2 l# i/ y% f1 O" z) B
.............信耶穌... ...

0 V8 e) c  E/ r' H) v) C. v  KRegarding the resurrection....& {. X/ l3 _# l5 @

) e* x; n9 m3 O, pActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- I' T. }: A& r. Y1 v+ t$ o

3 n* W: q  ]; R# C- ^  f! M5 s1 |You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.