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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
- u, P1 U4 d; S2 g" Z我係一個連自己都吳信的人& O9 _: H2 I  Q9 y* y# l
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢1 O. b6 d$ u; ~/ t( t/ \( v$ W
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
: T4 f2 i- f9 z呢D就係做人的悲哀
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- {# E  l# L+ Q& x% [$ O$ BNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% p6 C3 G' l1 u5 L" e) E& `* A

# \: x! l5 z& \- v$ v" {" zNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....3 V2 P# y  v5 t' Z

. q( g! G9 M5 `* g, `struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 p. U* V- C& z! ?" y+ v
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!& _5 w: w; g2 v* I: {% k& C9 P
我只不過微小的基督徒...................( N. p4 o) q* g  Z) X8 m
真的!!這不是反話
; b( f4 h6 X/ ]因為我是情感比理性強的人
  i1 n2 X/ a7 w3 m/ q所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 Q4 P3 F, v$ C9 u2 M以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 W8 z" f3 U, q; M' {% X8 l8 [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ a7 `8 ~" h1 h* S! Y+ _7 s
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
# L( }' s- b* q+ x! x3 E3 e/ q建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?6 [4 C( Z+ p- I9 a" p
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 1 _! p  J2 I, _1 Z' l

. _) A3 q! g: m$ {3 ?9 p/ z2 tI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.8 V* W# z% E; P  W

$ B8 \2 H$ r& M. H1 E0 u/ r" aLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo: V# j+ }/ A1 H- }0 k2 M
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:cool:
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( q6 w, x9 ?6 X[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
. X2 d+ e) \! s9 v* d6 z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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2 U4 o4 \! C) N"不信也沒損失"
& z) W7 ]( G4 A! a7 m3 E! SYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
( \9 T9 J; \8 C. Cbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......* w0 S  M" h: s# k1 i5 {+ ]

( A/ w# D, U. _& j7 rit's starting because we have sins......7 |5 P* Y7 e% f! Y+ E
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 f7 G  t# a) e# u( M9 S! l7 O( k! l
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 }& `% y$ Z2 `: o
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
4 R0 m( p" X' P6 d" l用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% a. b" z) U) L- f這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  h  S; e: J3 G
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) o3 d' P  m4 x( X
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
: V$ n3 c- q/ Z& X3 \好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( Q1 B, X, }2 ?4 c7 @
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法+ Y! h& [  ]1 @/ Z0 E2 T8 D0 I
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...3 _% i# M$ e6 Q$ J

/ _9 B# Q9 w% m! K! E4 o5 v宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,8 g: K2 b/ U+ `1 o8 R
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
' Y$ ^' v" `* V% T, y9 }% B看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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: d( [; ^4 y% a[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!0 F2 R; x5 n) P4 e6 i0 K

8 j0 X) j  L4 r! E不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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/ b3 G" @( w, Y+ j; ~+ [0 R我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!( U; j4 t* D3 Y7 _6 F* a( W& u- }

/ {- o9 D0 w8 W同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:  y( y- i+ S0 ^# q1 {0 P
.............信耶穌... ...
4 c' U4 }( L$ z. \" E; \8 ~Regarding the resurrection....  w3 ^+ ^+ p5 i! U# K
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....; X* q5 J$ a$ f8 m9 s0 V( e# x" R

8 F1 ~5 S$ }2 [4 G# a; }: {( nYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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