Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:- J7 J8 F6 ~. _) [
我係一個連自己都吳信的人+ i; q# }+ U( q. a
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢: c2 v1 v# @/ ]6 t
道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 t4 v! S5 R2 P% h  A4 l( F* ~
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!# x% a, H3 J9 s, y+ B1 t7 Y& m. x

  R* P# l! {3 \& ?+ |Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% o! k/ x4 t2 o7 S* a- q  q
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% \! ^% _1 U6 Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
2 }+ }8 n1 d  }: B' N) l1 C- g3 t, Ocheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
- Q6 ~8 R' X4 O9 b我只不過微小的基督徒...................
" E, |$ u! X* {- F# `真的!!這不是反話
8 T' J9 M+ d9 }6 L2 P2 K因為我是情感比理性強的人
4 x5 }/ J. W! n# h所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
; j' z& ^9 h3 P" I# R1 Z以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  A& n0 f0 a0 w9 \  F在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:; a# D0 `( u! j! j* p9 X, q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?# @/ K# K% n2 C2 \3 k) x4 I% m

; w5 ^3 e1 Z2 _% y- yJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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! ~4 ]( p8 x2 K. m  K9 v9 I8 a2 _7 jI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.+ w5 ^+ B" \: h5 _0 z5 m/ j
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 j9 t  L+ |3 d. O1 D0 @- s% L
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 _+ d0 B/ |+ S建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" w' i( P0 @7 y$ q2 V6 C: z4 N: k3 Z"不信也沒損失"- |- v3 ]% O: |( u1 \+ W; |5 U
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
6 @4 z5 d3 c6 U5 j6 j$ z8 v: Z5 Jbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......+ W; V/ [- b5 i7 f
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it's starting because we have sins......+ w* n: S6 ^" T/ @9 ?3 q7 i% I
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 F6 Y1 t7 U6 B" V4 ~1 B9 v/ m
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* G; H  H/ j6 g: _只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,- g1 K; Y  W" ~3 b. w* z
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' p7 I( y% l0 v% }這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全2 L$ r' A0 }+ }/ ~7 j1 v
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,3 Y4 J) a3 ?* m2 w4 L
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 |$ Z! k: ^3 L' s* G
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ s1 Q5 w( i. v. Y
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,; A. y1 R$ Z  f7 `
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 Q1 S$ w# F( m3 v+ K美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具7 {- Z% U0 s% j0 Y  K! H

7 b1 A6 @- P  h* h吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 \, |1 s  H2 W, H4 `$ V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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3 U* U, V* w+ V& b, t以下是其他人的見解,! p5 n4 k" J2 D( S5 W) w
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤3 U+ k& Y% m0 W$ u! e" y7 s9 y4 j
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............7 x; ?' D1 T: w7 l6 t4 g
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!6 ^. j# a) E; n6 x1 U! ^

% `" O' [! J6 b0 P不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 w0 c2 f" d7 U0 q; G

2 Z1 T9 b6 e7 L同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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6 ~2 j; j5 ~5 ?% D" jRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.