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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
$ H& t& Y" `' t, t* L我係一個連自己都吳信的人" ]5 C  |* X: Z$ ~8 O+ p6 s) Z
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
4 `, [* C- s3 K道理我知道好多只係做吳到( F4 X% F' V4 V5 V8 }  z3 F+ R% d- G
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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$ G# {+ C+ p( r, X* N& D! \( zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( X8 n; e& y/ z$ Z

7 Q( F5 N  f! }) }' @6 ~% iNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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. m7 c  a  h4 t* `# a8 c% Rmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....1 v6 {2 }, B& `. G" R
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!4 a  F" @2 {( r  Z/ h3 I7 m
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 R. A) R+ n2 s0 S- Z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
5 C+ l8 A( U7 j. z. ~4 _在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:4 ?  R/ v) |9 y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?0 _# e$ @; C( s! R2 a

. x1 i6 R: ^5 i0 _6 M# TJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 0 n: ?$ i  H5 n1 L

  D" \" z, _" z5 h( M9 i" qI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# g" w" I6 ^: k9 r

' o9 R  N7 n4 b9 H4 b# p) _! fLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo. n+ L- v) d) I% b5 ]
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! \. d/ O" a* T! q+ w7 R[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 Y* ^+ ~4 K- x2 R) o/ D' v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 s( U7 D$ |+ r"不信也沒損失"- A  I1 n& k/ ?& N) X+ t  L- R- l+ C
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
) B! e/ @/ ?2 J, N5 p+ wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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8 \& Y9 i  _: s& a" lit's starting because we have sins....../ a! O0 p9 ]! S/ |6 s
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 Z" ~0 m2 G. u8 k# Z" pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
2 y) e% z& O& K" Q' l只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 ?# c+ L# }3 y' B. P0 G+ o. _* S0 \  c
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
; [$ X+ |7 O9 |0 q' n" [: C* B這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
9 x6 g: t/ @' K* S& o8 G8 w如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) _5 _  z) }# r1 O
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' T: Z$ q( H# }; f+ S$ a3 h
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
+ U! n& Q  j( n1 P& Q/ e好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,1 y! N. u5 V+ w
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: ^. I: S1 x" ?7 e7 @( q美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具0 {. W2 b: m+ D% q
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
# U9 V: O1 {, s* p. t信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干4 G: a/ F7 D2 G4 y7 Y
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以下是其他人的見解,
! ~% v- \# i7 |. e, G看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............% x- t9 _2 {' s% }

& \% |: ~/ R/ h) `信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!$ q9 @. k9 O) j! W* r

+ X4 R* H* O1 K) y$ |  c+ v( H' r不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* b- P3 j  u( K" b; Y5 \

( |6 ^( z  n% F- c$ ?8 z) d4 R8 a我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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" c- z( S3 Y0 ?7 g. ?同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 q8 l2 q& s6 O( C* M6 i9 A3 }" n
.............信耶穌... ...
( e. k: u! h. |2 l6 {+ m) E" tRegarding the resurrection....
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$ w, l5 k* z9 {Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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' X3 X2 b+ h4 t  cYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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