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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:6 T- D  i+ }$ v( }5 B8 h
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
: |3 K& s. [" p1 o. e又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
. J1 o0 k; w( j- C6 p- O* y' i道理我知道好多只係做吳到
9 \, T; a; Z- s4 }2 D) {! _呢D就係做人的悲哀
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; d3 C5 ]7 ~. K0 `; s- ]: f  i$ CNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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6 A2 v: E: l( |* `* }9 B! `3 W$ eNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....1 l8 e# |# X- s
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!" m+ L: F6 p5 `3 w/ h8 F" d* l1 r3 L
我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 n5 h9 g# P0 ]$ Y
真的!!這不是反話
4 x2 S4 k6 g) m' @* Y0 ]; @  ]因為我是情感比理性強的人9 d$ Z5 |. u& E2 @  G9 m
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...( Q$ p! _7 y9 v
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 A- h9 N, D" e/ E& {4 Z& l$ c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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; I2 u' S/ \3 h' YJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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7 m2 z7 d- D1 `# g7 @. u  hLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ D. h) r/ c) o' `
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ i, S0 v4 d4 T+ K' T& C% X建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"% s. {1 q0 \% V
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......
; K( X! \% |! p- M. Xsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
4 v4 x- M$ U7 I6 _* z/ E( Iour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
( u! w) C; t  ~! R. l  V只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
+ D2 P; [4 b4 w8 C+ Y用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,; I2 [  s7 t9 y) _! t7 E) o& n4 q+ f
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全9 u  d4 @# ~# `! L& {
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,3 e3 |+ g, z3 e  u, H+ I$ o
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~6 R, y# b: T! U. K* C

4 _7 m9 r" m) A: g導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
6 P+ T+ [. Q) W9 r5 s1 S好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
8 \# K) n( k' S. H" }" n6 o1 c, {* K改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
( i5 C4 M9 I7 ?美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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5 u9 ~8 ], B; x宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具' ?: A/ j8 q1 u/ Q
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,$ {$ [" j- h0 e: I# ?- l' V* L% |
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干( b, e; {" U. ~  h
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以下是其他人的見解,
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: Z( b3 d' C2 I/ h[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............7 l  ?* `% @  g* Q/ Z7 u; |5 {
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!9 K" F8 }4 ~! m8 |: S; o
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!# D, y$ |# R) _: h
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....1 h3 `9 N9 q7 n  o& v8 b
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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