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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:+ q) |: D' p) Q
我係一個連自己都吳信的人5 u7 B* {0 l& k. y9 q# ?' J! b
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ P' h4 ]4 q& Y& W& P+ f8 T3 |. D道理我知道好多只係做吳到
2 n/ }* \7 [7 Y  W5 I呢D就係做人的悲哀
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( j& a/ \5 K4 H) gNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....6 w- ]: F4 M: b% {3 u

+ s/ N2 w1 E' L" F; Emr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' r! c# \" t5 o/ B  d
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
' x8 w$ ]: o+ C我只不過微小的基督徒...................4 J) o' r0 M& e7 c% w; _" ]
真的!!這不是反話* Q; P8 m4 a$ ?
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
) }  I3 ?2 S% C' e. g以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, h$ K: N' L  {
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:4 P, d3 E8 w1 Q. ~  x  `
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?( n- \; u+ b& A/ c+ ^6 b* v
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ O$ U0 N( v- Q
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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. ?, d0 T8 S+ O+ [/ E/ P4 ALooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo  q. J: _4 [# \" w6 o9 w
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
+ |7 O( \, Q0 b建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
) A4 }  {$ e  x- Q+ [. NYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
. C, M2 d1 F, Z4 Ubut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......) Q) Z( d- j2 Z
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it's starting because we have sins......0 g* J& w7 G$ V0 h4 n* B
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
3 b; q* e% P0 w3 g8 a- a只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,5 l. d7 v+ H' d
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
4 a: q7 X9 {9 B$ [7 O8 e( q這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 [) M1 t( s# V* z: e; H- y; i如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,+ e9 H  q+ M7 L2 V  a) \
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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5 N5 F0 n: _7 P" E+ J9 A" p7 P& v導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
3 B8 s4 t( O! J6 j. W; C" P. ]& M好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,  z* ?8 }# r% w5 T6 Q

, v7 j# p; m: P' l2 o& @% B" p一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
0 I# t( L. \' K* h* i改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法- K0 S. i. g9 A* ]1 R
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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& O6 J2 B+ i2 D宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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) r$ [2 n8 _( y吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: T- k; j, U: z信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干& v( p7 y/ w. z& V5 c! G

3 H6 ~# @1 G7 T- z: i! P+ F以下是其他人的見解,
; Y9 T6 u' C5 B看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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. T' ?8 }+ r) X[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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( D$ }; R  s8 }$ C信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!) w! s: N4 q. Q8 D- p4 F
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; X; @/ {1 \  b: O6 w$ ^

0 e& v( b: m: ?, I! `' S我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!& j$ e' J+ R+ v4 E0 f

: l4 O9 E; t, ?' H! {9 l' J! A同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:; D  s: Z( O# O9 w8 q$ w7 T
.............信耶穌... ...
$ u- @4 Z/ E( r* FRegarding the resurrection....
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+ `# U' v6 P" N( q& `& YActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... K" [" j# V+ S& j/ ~% M% h8 d

' k! f8 u1 A1 b0 E8 h: E, IYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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