Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
6 M, u. G8 b* t* S# w9 K7 Q3 x道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 q% l% `) B9 \4 c" m$ G
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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& B( U8 w  V. Z) E3 tNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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6 R7 [% \) i$ u$ K( |( ?3 tNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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3 e. `# w8 n( ^' y2 Zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ I( }5 b' D/ D% I* @# y# ?
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!% a) |# ^9 B) e" G) [
我只不過微小的基督徒...................$ |" J3 h5 P; T; ?) l7 A0 ]
真的!!這不是反話8 ]" D* Z1 I) I" g$ m
因為我是情感比理性強的人) S# n6 r0 z6 e
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,1 L. M! l5 z" O3 M6 b
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
7 X6 K/ y) M  x. g( l( {在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
' u- j/ q0 ]7 _建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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2 ?4 E2 u; A: y6 o1 t0 lI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
3 G" ~8 `8 z2 x' c& a# V8 |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"- F5 V; v1 T9 G/ p* O$ h
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....; x  G: t$ j- Y; d. b4 U8 Q; A
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 w( `) t0 ^5 `' F! v2 L- Nit's starting because we have sins......
7 K  u9 g; b( ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  U; ~! @3 D! x/ T7 h
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,, C4 ~# c% U$ [# X* d2 ]: V2 Z
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
9 r- ~: G$ {' s& A/ w/ U* l/ W. d這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( s8 \+ F8 _; d9 i
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,( V3 l2 D7 Z* E. D; R
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
6 U/ _1 x; |2 n. l7 c( U3 \; O好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,* J. @9 ^6 m. n$ L1 G
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,8 E- E0 f5 M8 ]4 B; z: ^  N
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 p1 R6 i1 o- C2 A
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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0 x0 s6 a5 L  R" c' P, Y+ f信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 s! W7 B" u# F
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!% K. r- A' v1 o2 C: F+ a/ N- p
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 Q4 O; X/ j; R+ V/ R
.............信耶穌... ...

6 p) g7 q! |* R1 @9 x( C5 j' h. d  yRegarding the resurrection....
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( k! R8 N6 o! O2 L$ z7 [" zActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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- H3 \, g) b5 _( w! b8 u* lYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.