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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 E  Y" k2 b$ ]. B7 \% T我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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- K+ K3 `) M9 E8 o道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 R' M1 H1 k5 }0 ~" |
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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1 y  i; i) h1 }/ }1 m) U& m9 ]Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- s1 m7 f1 r0 p0 \, H7 ?* g5 B

% F$ O# q" ]) D1 QNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....  U1 n# V+ {# A( V, x  K0 J

4 T* g9 Z+ ]' Mmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....: h: d  l# I% e2 ^% \) o
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!  Q; H/ B1 f7 S
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 {$ q; p' g# i0 s) J5 H: M/ \" B真的!!這不是反話  w5 Y' j  G; @! {; u
因為我是情感比理性強的人
3 j% p3 k/ g0 I8 _$ j" a8 Y( J4 Y  d所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,5 `: G5 h$ J- p& Y0 y( s
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  Q5 D, U/ s2 j2 U$ l9 v在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ n9 G/ y* J" ~) |7 ~& N* [8 @2 X
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:( D4 E3 W5 d/ p5 M) [
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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6 u. N4 ^) E* [What a statement we have here?& w; [) u- D' _1 m1 H

" {  X7 f1 L4 e# P* \* e! e$ mJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ( [/ k4 F% d5 @* q

+ C- Q" m4 R8 Y( L% o/ Q8 C; tI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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: }3 [. X) \* C5 @$ z- u" N# D9 qLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# [/ v5 a. S& K. t建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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( \0 G( u( \# T6 H" B"不信也沒損失"
8 o  p" t8 K% p. d  EYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
# e  G" P# E7 `; ^3 F" y& X9 `* h2 xbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
4 I5 B3 z* P$ a3 E3 V9 k7 r, X4 J! Bsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
; k5 k- P* C/ Aour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
: j1 ^/ J% r6 r只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. H: V8 A: v8 [/ v: {% Z
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,# J& e2 P7 ~3 C3 g8 X
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ O* @! [. r: n3 a) x如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 i3 A: S0 G! l* B0 t* s, C+ {而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~" B! u* b) Q2 {. }
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
/ s: d3 w; H) H好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 Y; u5 [$ p! `! g" e
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
/ Z5 _0 L8 I) v) b改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: z1 ~6 n! [- r/ d, M" o6 F美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...$ [. S7 J% |# ^9 j8 g# n( p
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具/ k% p5 u* }" d: d0 |* Q- R
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" r+ q' @6 x; c5 [信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干0 F! |' Q5 r& }1 d5 B  @

: i9 f; U1 P' s* [以下是其他人的見解,+ U' O/ Q) e( N* q
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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0 n# p0 o- }* G5 Y3 [[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!* K7 Y) _2 q- ]1 r8 o7 h0 I

$ H% q$ F8 g! x不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!( @' t: ]1 R" x2 Q1 ^3 Z& c

$ ~4 `9 r8 W( V& ~我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 ^5 f" @3 u$ @, _: r
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....5 `, c, \5 C9 H: O7 H
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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3 d1 M: t9 C/ T2 L4 mYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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