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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
" E; O# |* k6 x8 B) O我係一個連自己都吳信的人
7 F) l6 p9 r. D) D; f又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 E/ Q  b" `0 s# K  b3 w道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 q. {5 `7 @/ K
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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' g1 l5 @* m6 v% x9 XNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& I% @& |* M' ~( K6 p( O

8 L- B2 l& t6 c+ q/ b" q8 q0 YNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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; g, d! m2 _+ R8 q' ^& B5 l' amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....! x1 T, V3 ~& p3 a1 N5 b
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....) Q8 p& Y+ ]) ?* O6 {3 o
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
) g# ^8 v# h& O- |+ E2 x我只不過微小的基督徒...................9 ?( Q; ^# y' c' d! s; V! u1 p
真的!!這不是反話5 s# o+ u! A' o" \4 B' i
因為我是情感比理性強的人! e" C, [, ?( c" g" c7 t/ m
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 [2 R( @+ E1 j. F( c) X
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
- w$ `# K8 ^9 m. _: m5 Y* S在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
$ g' U2 {% P2 M5 Z正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
% W& f; h0 x1 T1 `3 @$ ]建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?) d/ u2 _# P3 t1 x

- N1 ]$ O9 W+ h! p3 NJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) X5 T( l* M' UI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) G! p- x" ?0 A8 H) O

- E0 ?: Z' Y* P) u7 u) vLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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5 }4 B& n; Y( |" X/ o2 H[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 c, f) \5 c9 J2 w5 p2 y建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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" ]9 k$ f( V) H6 d+ X! k( H"不信也沒損失"
9 A/ V5 O/ D* W- lYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
* `  \- O, \' U* l9 dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......+ i' E7 a$ y- ?1 x* m

8 a2 V2 J- ^* [. T8 Jit's starting because we have sins......4 G" U# O0 A9 L5 w; \2 X2 `+ c# c
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 8 c* {; |$ {- c7 w
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
0 Y, l0 H  ]8 j$ d只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& m3 l% ^& l5 T% ~5 W8 P) e  r- P用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
' p+ s- Z+ L1 P# }% R4 S" f, N這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
# R- Z3 |6 E2 }如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,4 S; S/ Q6 X( x2 J- t$ u
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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" ]3 ~" p+ w4 U7 M導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
/ z# C3 e3 ^' m' x! u5 ^好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,- l6 ]: F" }+ K

2 q( C( t) F+ S6 x  m, f) w6 W一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,8 P+ }5 G$ u3 Q# H* ~$ U
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法' ?/ j9 f- [+ W/ D
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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) ]. w3 Q: `- s3 h3 h0 M宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具, \- q5 b9 ^4 z, L* k9 @
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
$ x2 ]' F* q1 c8 _8 y信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,: t  }  o8 c, U7 O% m
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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! d7 W- x$ s% d9 Z$ ]! V[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) U' u  m$ U; v0 D2 v9 o2 D4 P

$ l) V" u/ _9 q- t3 D* X: |信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!  i1 [; q; N6 J: Z$ p

3 @  d7 u6 i+ ^$ ?6 l9 r% g我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!3 U+ |; p  U2 Z' Z; S9 d) ?
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; z+ f' \8 k$ e0 i.............信耶穌... ...
& r( l: ]- R# s$ _: hRegarding the resurrection....! a8 m) Y8 A; n
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....' c; b5 X/ K/ `' z5 S1 J  p/ Y& E

+ a, V1 w% ^5 `4 L4 [" bYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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