Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:# ^8 K$ W# l3 z
我係一個連自己都吳信的人. x4 ^2 o, m9 W8 \; L6 v/ |. T
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 E( k3 }& ~, i; v2 z8 c道理我知道好多只係做吳到
+ z& P9 C. w* K# e! D呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!7 e# F) S/ O( I0 h7 }

: ^3 O5 b6 \1 gNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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) p0 y3 ?! |' h8 H! @: n) kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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: W4 _) h4 m: c( j) Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 m) }# Z1 q6 A8 q2 I5 Acheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
) z% n/ `' M  @8 w+ k我只不過微小的基督徒..................." m; T( g+ \' W) [. i
真的!!這不是反話
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0 S4 {0 m- V/ t2 x所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,& t$ i/ f" t5 v7 S8 x% h! Z( U6 y# O
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, F) E. i# z$ y; P9 [& s
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% K- V: h2 V7 ]0 c/ e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* U+ X5 ?3 l0 U4 A& yWhat a statement we have here?; z& A' n1 B+ N6 `
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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# |/ }- H5 W5 Z$ E5 _I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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* |0 `! S: S0 f/ |4 a9 s% I9 n/ aLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- h0 ^! b' k) \- {6 M

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# O7 R$ \2 u1 C& a
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
6 a1 R% W$ F1 s1 E# F  O  t! [Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
7 t( W! {. D, i3 B) A! q9 obut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 u7 Y# }$ f2 X; iit's starting because we have sins......5 \& Z! T( z8 ]  M+ n
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
6 [7 W9 @3 I9 {+ }' ]our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 t& h, K4 F# [; L只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,; d! y+ P+ _' T; M* L. r7 e* G/ l1 l
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
/ ?& x. M; `$ m+ C9 c: {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全9 q4 o+ V% Z6 |
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 }" J: ^! d, T7 p& o- C而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,& c0 h- [' W/ W# ]3 |& Y! l
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,8 a5 {& i- ~9 o2 p
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 H: q3 s5 G8 L+ H$ k& E; m8 v美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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" B8 E( y+ F6 x8 o宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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+ O5 ]$ ^' S9 w% E2 b( F. ^: ^* I/ M吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,  `6 N0 m8 u/ @5 M4 N5 O! F
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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3 K0 M/ C  T" U# L# A* h$ e[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............& I# P* o+ M( ~$ x( Y3 y2 C

6 B& g: ^7 C  R6 V" x2 {信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ ]4 t0 p- [2 d# `; x6 i

8 {! Z5 @; G0 g1 h1 ^# u9 ]不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!+ S  u5 a  |; n6 V- l2 L7 e9 R

# B% e' }/ _+ u# B. o/ \7 P我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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6 d( c6 @. @# o' r6 _8 N同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
6 K" i% j& o7 ?' y& m.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...., `; r) F5 g: W. T

! V' e) @7 |+ z! T8 T4 NActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: [# E8 r! z, \( i# I% K; a

/ q; e( w/ K- W( c- k3 v- k+ w* M/ u+ W! `You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.