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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
- o$ O+ |% f9 A3 s8 G' O9 c1 J我係一個連自己都吳信的人
  \0 N- |7 n  H又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
" }6 ?; A* g: v9 s( ?( c道理我知道好多只係做吳到
9 Y) I8 D6 U" {5 M呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 n8 O% \5 f" V! L) B
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!2 E2 ]; e& X4 z# F6 ~- F; g6 k& \. t
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人! e# J! \; J" c& E2 R1 O- f
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 z; i! B; D. T" x以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據," s4 \& \0 I+ r
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! n! R# i. [6 f, B* m* B
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:. q3 Z2 e6 @* ]# }4 T+ U" o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?# e4 Y7 A0 B! x% [' P& V

  W7 Q; [2 ^8 i# c9 jJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " Z/ p" p+ @1 S

9 f5 b8 w3 B! ]8 dI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; F) R2 C: o' u; `
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; q+ f: F7 D( [2 z$ {

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"* G4 K9 T" m' q- {; \3 V
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' g' G4 o1 v6 h( x( H' p& Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# a6 L5 I' h8 g4 _5 o
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it's starting because we have sins......
' x7 X% _: ~1 f7 T7 psatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us " H3 S$ t$ v) y1 I8 h& g
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 ?# w2 a% k' e! T: O
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
8 _) x1 T. L& b7 h* a如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,1 ~' u" @/ m( _- F% a9 M6 e, u6 x, z  m
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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; D: E2 B) P$ X) m1 _. z& F導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
) C; W. L2 m- f' c好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 ]% D! z  |6 ^7 A  T* }
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,& o! z! L( H( p) u) n( C; V
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
" {2 L2 Q* w3 r8 l美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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- K( r4 g+ P4 d% d吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
' j& Y0 l) j& a7 k/ l0 W2 C信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干. Z0 E; Y# @! E/ Q# |+ Q

9 K9 G1 Z- K! H) \2 X) e6 K以下是其他人的見解,0 v5 ?( s+ i+ x3 g6 N4 F) ~. e
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤' o$ r/ `- \8 s2 o- r3 e- t/ F" m2 K4 M
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!! V& x& z- Q$ ]' X; @

' [1 B2 O, r- b不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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, B( L! R$ f% Q; X, G我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!" N0 t1 |. W* s; W( r) T( ]

4 v9 C- W) L5 Z1 E3 N. N' ]同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
* v2 [1 ?- u. X.............信耶穌... ...
2 a# u# g6 G$ V8 L) \8 D& R5 |Regarding the resurrection....5 v5 u3 d, E5 n2 b& \6 Y

  @, p- M/ [0 G# mActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 ^/ I# ?: ^$ T. J- q, RYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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