Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 a: x% c. T! b4 T- F
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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" N6 Y3 D! q% c6 k3 D' I7 F+ v9 b+ N5 t道理我知道好多只係做吳到
& k; K& [. O9 H" @. A9 w% X呢D就係做人的悲哀

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: m" Q+ \2 c8 b0 K! V( n2 m' ANobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 ^) a, y- b! f; d
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....8 ]( c! ]* ?' Y' n1 B' V
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' O$ e0 \" m- A3 t: n

1 r, }. O5 c6 O2 t" {1 n. fstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
$ d) ?# _6 I$ y1 k3 G/ k$ tcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!6 O' }7 n2 J0 R0 I
我只不過微小的基督徒...................4 L. {* n; D/ }: d* E
真的!!這不是反話
. F9 A5 t0 O8 z5 ]因為我是情感比理性強的人
8 ]- w2 s3 O5 G! s! ~& U/ o! n所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, e& d1 }* r" ?. U4 J# Q以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,: M& a4 @4 V, x( M4 ~
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" }8 S, n9 Q' z( R1 o, I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. ~/ ^6 k5 S$ f$ Y+ g5 y. `What a statement we have here?
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% t* z. Y/ h8 G6 v) `Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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: N2 Z, w  _4 T( k8 I# p/ k/ {+ m9 hI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.4 ?3 z. U/ }+ F1 }

8 l0 o) P0 F; q% I( ~" Z/ pLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo5 |! K- N0 B+ O+ Y6 d4 c" S

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 j; i. k& }8 ]/ j建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 d9 y0 |/ C9 ]/ f, D& a"不信也沒損失"
) u% R" e( H% p$ UYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
7 @: i+ R+ j3 B( @, Abut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......2 l& W6 n9 ~6 A9 V9 i4 n9 w% Q* \
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
3 b9 Y1 T0 T) L0 Jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 j* U1 {+ _' q2 G只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. c; i5 p' g# v, Y! H3 J4 o
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,6 K6 y1 a# u+ i, m  v: h  _6 Q
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! J9 \$ B# w, E. Z3 `& l0 _如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 F- M* j2 I7 f9 W4 T* R/ F
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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% H' L+ t2 U6 o導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
+ ~! Y& L' X4 r+ g" D  K好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,0 i; p: D' M7 _( }" C
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具4 S" s2 U; s! A

" Z" o) V. t2 u吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
9 \8 }" j2 `: F3 E信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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! L3 C% l5 M$ a2 `( Q6 }5 v+ C* s+ `以下是其他人的見解,) d* W5 e# s- E) X  K2 _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤( P$ v- _* K+ U5 u8 S
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............$ v0 U" @" k. c

7 O4 R1 S' ^9 F" N信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ C  c2 k2 {6 j

+ e' F+ t- m" @2 K0 I( A不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- t- }* K0 n* }$ R: }0 c# _
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 \- E' z- a; Y.............信耶穌... ...

5 g% t" V$ L4 q7 X- w4 nRegarding the resurrection....; a2 Y1 j( J9 h- n/ P) [
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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1 g/ H% `& W# w8 E" Q3 Z  jYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.