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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  m, f4 w$ y  [6 v! L% |- H我係一個連自己都吳信的人
0 @; s4 R- ^% X. h. L又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
. h; H2 Y* U, p$ d+ _* |道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 S( o4 a( r1 I0 r
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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( V& M" o: Q* T1 n9 TNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....: L& I- V; R7 P1 i$ {1 x$ e
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....% f; I2 a+ E7 S( X9 z5 G
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!$ l5 f% N) n& a7 I0 ]* c
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( h  Q+ Z  W4 w% V$ D以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,9 A- `& g9 e$ |% o' Z) q4 `1 Z! G" M
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 Q  i# T0 h: Z8 D" M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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& ~. D" Y% W" t5 r: V% JWhat a statement we have here?+ [( @( P$ ]2 D5 k" ^

/ w  L7 j2 ^% i, v4 n# ^Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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, F3 e* J' m5 f6 KLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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- _( {* S# c& N/ x# C5 K, f. ^[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:4 j2 ?- x9 m9 E6 {6 G& U5 _
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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6 _% e7 M' C- S4 @/ V0 i/ W" p% ]"不信也沒損失"( N; i4 E% e* N0 ?0 O* b
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......: [% `9 X0 U7 q0 w
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ; ]8 X( o7 G7 T2 X9 r2 p
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
. ?4 S$ U4 @+ W( D3 ]這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~: A+ h% f% y5 b, Q4 w2 T3 j- r. w/ L! {
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
8 Y- s0 y: j) u. M7 C- f好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,* `' |/ d& }/ H8 Q. n4 ~

; H: k8 J- M8 `一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 J- a9 @* A9 B* F, c8 _
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
7 M! v) b6 u, C3 F* y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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6 K# s2 P5 u' q1 d& A1 f" ~$ c吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,& l4 J9 O" ~/ t. j- `  K' @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) T  p7 b; I9 U8 v& F$ H& ~

8 y  d( [/ z4 `7 x3 E7 r以下是其他人的見解," _! P( h8 s" L1 k. P# g
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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* F, \5 D4 o9 g# C! F5 }) e$ [- @4 h[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............8 d" y, F; J# e. c: b2 Z$ U1 U: `

8 s5 B5 u9 h, p! a信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!( O, _, A1 y  {3 y8 o6 S4 J& ^0 ~
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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  r) s. B. h9 ]/ z. v9 E" ]1 |  w我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 {* j. b3 E. j/ r# t9 h7 ~

- }6 j! C" f. b3 R- w同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:& F- T5 I- v0 t% [( R; C- `
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....6 }5 o# ]* u! p( N( y( q
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....# m/ a" T! @# f6 f
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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