Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 z$ H& z+ T! o) K5 A5 O
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
. A- c4 g- [: I& @又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
! A+ m3 V' J$ d道理我知道好多只係做吳到
+ e8 a: V1 D% B呢D就係做人的悲哀

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' [: M# N* \* J: S! `5 t" z8 u, N4 lNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!$ I! P4 B7 z0 p$ h( o" H) A

- z& F! i, T- ?Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....9 d. q/ R. R1 t. Y. n! Z* g9 s. y

" |# T6 C- U- a3 E5 O" J; ~struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....% l) I1 p2 ~) o, W. C) M& t' C
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
2 Z5 F: t) O  e我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 B. p& U; {" y  }8 U
真的!!這不是反話
. o' @5 |5 y6 Y1 M因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 _- y% b5 X3 T+ p: U
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ J$ g; i; K. I$ o& S3 \1 ?% [
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* u% k6 b- J: I& l% k  m0 Y! z! HWhat a statement we have here?6 v. G0 e& i7 O1 x4 _3 X7 g/ r
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread." b5 B6 T: `; {& |. ~: P

- k  _; Z0 ~' G' T( e% kLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
! J& r0 d& r* j, u8 ^建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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; T9 B! ]7 F7 e2 f"不信也沒損失": A/ x) b8 c, p/ B  [
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others...... x5 W& z- [  J9 L2 L
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......3 A) @0 h5 r3 K  K, Z
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it's starting because we have sins......4 T+ M2 e6 e, U. v+ J3 p
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
+ g* e9 n- w0 h, j6 Your jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ N) s5 h  _/ @) a0 I
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,4 k1 l7 H5 \) N: d( [
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,1 s8 G$ m3 g; X) F
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全6 ]* r4 z, }: v! X
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,4 w4 p% d% C- g6 P+ \
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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' Y5 s+ p& w6 ^6 M: O導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
$ H: h6 \: M0 b* |1 U* N1 X2 M6 m; |好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,) ]5 {. |" E8 \

. A, L# o$ f2 H3 z! f/ g$ G一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( G$ Q& h# M$ s8 n6 G3 D% e
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
" J" S1 `# b& Y( b7 ]美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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! G. w3 a  W8 X0 W( R/ J宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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8 d% n  G) }* L1 j- |9 K吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,( i( V# ]! O: j- F
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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3 a4 d: \4 U7 R- i1 }' d; F以下是其他人的見解," {5 \; ?) E; U5 W- X* x/ m$ U7 z
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 B' O1 |& o: O, A+ K! `) y6 b+ S信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!1 C2 {3 W6 R0 ?4 K- j

2 U! `' J; i. ?% M2 ~不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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  m5 o, Z& z% U7 B1 g! h' y同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
2 u* I% ^/ _5 v6 D# b  q$ |6 f.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....' ]8 c4 M1 n- O- u# {5 V3 S

( O5 G& P0 j: G" e3 B4 I% ~Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....% t$ G' X  ?) ^$ G: y
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.