Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:! Y. m+ P1 K  L1 |' A
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
4 b  |, ?+ a2 C6 w) U又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
( @; G" }6 o- r9 |7 t! z道理我知道好多只係做吳到
$ W3 J8 ^  `! P呢D就係做人的悲哀

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1 C. S8 c" `9 v6 j! ~Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' Z9 D+ ?/ ~! N/ E4 I" f5 q

) a* w0 y, \1 ~& r( U; X% }) Q. nmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( b% |2 F6 p/ ~: i
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!, V# N) j$ R: c" ?
我只不過微小的基督徒...................5 W2 A2 N$ t' d6 r' v- n, E* G" l" V
真的!!這不是反話
3 p* z% w' \( W7 p因為我是情感比理性強的人
8 q" r. _/ x3 M8 J1 [所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,  ^$ m: a( ]; I; H" p3 @6 l) X) z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
" Z7 d9 o. F5 z5 O+ p建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 B# ^. o6 c3 j* qWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 3 L2 G& E; D0 e  Y$ r7 {# B/ a
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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2 p$ u( X0 t* `7 k- {. bLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo# r& K* d  P) ?& j, w

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:& T( G/ y9 N. Z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失". h. |6 G. i2 [4 K6 x
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 u% C2 l7 l7 F6 i
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......., O+ b6 h1 ]: r
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it's starting because we have sins......4 F9 r+ i) z/ g% {! F2 D0 z0 k
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 |4 J' U( H: x  N1 y2 W2 u' G
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"6 ], O; r. p# P7 e$ }5 v0 l0 ~3 j
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,3 e- P: Z3 F  ~2 Q! N8 h$ V1 D
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( X, _) N( Z. M- Y' o( G這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( |. X+ f; x, c/ A! h8 y  Y. g
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,$ p; t* o# Y+ A% Y  y
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: W$ D3 s7 }) X
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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1 X) [( p4 E& r# L' r$ k& q( i以下是其他人的見解,
2 R, E# l6 O4 ^( Y: q, [0 T7 r看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤5 C# y; p2 G1 T' S( a% q* {
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 }4 o8 }3 G5 Y2 J6 @, e不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!" v5 z* _6 j: {8 O

" O* L* N( k  e同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
  u8 i8 u$ I2 L  i.............信耶穌... ...

9 A7 d9 V8 D% R  i, VRegarding the resurrection....5 ^# D6 X" A+ y4 k3 v& X, O3 V: I
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.