Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:, J) S$ v) N" ?- |) M' F
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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7 Q1 y5 g! |) _- [; P1 I5 {  FNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  K& a( q4 i! m5 a# V. Y

; {% E" R$ O2 PNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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0 x4 z1 p. d* }8 Z3 ?* g3 rmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....6 J& K0 J, f( _7 A
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( `2 N- ~# m2 U  e
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ S" E4 k6 A% X5 e
我只不過微小的基督徒...................& G8 P: f* R3 y/ M; P( k
真的!!這不是反話/ O/ i- L  d# u5 G$ L/ p8 v% Z
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
% q6 T/ N2 _/ q% X* M6 f1 w. D以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
2 x  F- G* h8 t' [0 k7 c在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...8 y- R9 q+ p! D4 l0 D0 m
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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% j" h# a0 q0 H) lJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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' ^* N+ Y: i# [1 EI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! ]6 N) u' a2 O( z" T
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
5 u3 `( j5 z: }1 o7 U# H# o/ _Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
3 f7 x! F4 Z6 K- }0 S, z; gbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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: T6 L8 ^8 v% cit's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
. [3 d- t. s* C& C0 q! @只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
$ p4 u& [' m! q# P# _  [9 O用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,( B- P& N% \+ i. c) r) I
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ N% @6 v3 ~% B3 q4 v9 k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  N- W3 T- j3 }) t( ^+ ]& R. o$ {
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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  T+ _# X2 P# x導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 n; V7 J" ~, [5 R, H  P$ c
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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3 a9 a' N* x% s, {- v美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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( }9 G, |; X3 V; y3 g% T6 m宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具& Q. T0 `! `) N0 T$ `, R6 j
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
) Q" K/ u: a+ v2 m信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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7 i7 t7 n" d% M以下是其他人的見解,- A2 q8 t% x7 F
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, _3 S  S& g! [/ \/ T( q( X* I
.............信耶穌... ...

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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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: }/ l: g3 ~0 I# N1 zYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.