Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 Y+ I8 {8 ~& R, m我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ m# W  Y2 M+ _1 o
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢. E+ L; W9 {5 w- a6 H
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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% f5 p1 g6 ^3 t$ f2 WNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# \! J! ?% t/ X8 D  d
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 O9 O2 B  \* D! ?  t

( G9 `. u2 @( g4 Astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
5 h+ |( \6 o6 e. T1 h; }7 Pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!, ?. M- o& M$ i) u
我只不過微小的基督徒...................) |" u( }  U$ {/ Q
真的!!這不是反話
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" I' _1 [# }1 e所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 V1 v; P8 N2 _! E0 S% i- Z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
' L( w/ J1 ^4 e4 O7 `' Y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:# o3 K' E. b$ ?/ K: ~# `" ?) ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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; R# B/ F; R! P; uWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : H0 g3 e; j# q* I4 N9 N8 f
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.% N0 y' U# A$ z& u" w0 ^
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:; Q6 \& P* m* G5 D  Y  e( Z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 V8 _) h( g+ A& y( J3 A"不信也沒損失"" h+ x8 ^/ D. r8 f5 d
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
* ^, S3 d2 |* r9 Z, {( Y7 Dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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5 {! z5 n; I9 g* I7 q8 \5 l* x) M7 Qit's starting because we have sins......
2 _. W* n4 D6 \% y8 |" ^satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 p0 i; |3 m+ [" ^7 ^our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  l+ d0 k# M- v. ^
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 ?6 Z/ j. E7 V- f9 R
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
3 y5 z9 W% t) v8 i, n( a這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( ^% g+ M6 S7 ^5 g$ U- |0 Q+ G
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,1 h6 I  v$ }" _0 ~1 F( }
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,; X7 k5 a* p8 y  z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,5 ~7 _- Q& [$ ?7 w9 f+ U
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,0 Y4 _4 R" B$ P
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 f" B1 N* D, s" U6 i. d
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以下是其他人的見解,, ~7 q. E/ [; S( n; O8 d: g
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 I- d* H2 v7 j  a
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" }$ V2 {5 Y1 _( t. f8 P, a1 o

7 d* F6 J+ M- Q+ o" C  ]- @不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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3 j* e! U6 \* E& B% W' K* o我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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1 i) s6 X, x! ?9 Y9 b同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! ?" X# }7 F7 ^- m7 x
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....( E5 X8 u9 X8 z+ `4 V* B: e# Z
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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- E% x: ^7 K+ s/ fYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.