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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 ^8 {3 L  L  l6 W; y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
; i! `$ X. ?5 k+ y& X又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
$ X% _! Z5 a/ ~2 ?% _道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 e  {; z$ P1 l7 O8 B+ Q2 ]
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( ]4 H* F/ p1 N+ R% ~& I' J
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...., u8 F  o7 g+ z

) r8 ]) ~; c7 ]! f. |2 Dmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....& ]7 Y' I# \0 I3 a2 |9 j* d8 d

9 |- y  A8 J/ e# m$ Vstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! m1 [  b3 ]7 E
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
) Q( C+ g, W+ m我只不過微小的基督徒...................5 f; ]* k1 J: {
真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,. i* A9 X8 F4 h# h  N3 K
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 N( f8 h: K3 [) A; I0 n
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; h6 F# ?( f+ e0 t. ?
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% o9 {* a9 x4 ^# d
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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- u6 W9 o# }/ w9 T* e' SWhat a statement we have here?6 [4 Y3 r; W5 O$ g2 J

6 f3 a, S7 Z1 V2 X3 Q% c% X, [Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 k& r/ o+ C2 Y* D9 ?' x1 c5 b
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"( P2 V  |; U6 ~* J9 M2 r6 l. `& N
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
: T* z! M, V/ K& B4 hbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......0 w' ~0 M$ j! i0 E! k( G9 F

, z9 R: N& W6 Y0 K9 h- l9 zit's starting because we have sins......
8 J7 D2 {$ c$ V! Osatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us $ _% c  s/ S/ L& [
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
0 @% L* }8 L9 Q( F. a$ ]* N只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& b# G6 }8 f: e; Z2 J2 z0 y
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,5 e8 f8 R9 s' l) b; V  v( w
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全3 i. s1 ?; Q5 ^& m5 s
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,+ b: _4 r( W. w8 d
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~5 C1 h, ?( ~3 R6 B1 n* y' L/ M
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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: c3 |3 T' i0 h9 L1 |一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,9 Y7 W$ W, W) R, d; h
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法, g2 d3 m# Y4 ~3 u$ u4 V; L& A
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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# N/ M7 `. R3 @吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,& G& |1 i+ `4 F
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干0 ~" n  G8 s9 c3 g: f9 Q0 N) z$ Z

# C3 ]9 k& y7 P4 x. [  }' u# B+ n  Y以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: F1 `6 ~* Z4 H. W$ u; Z) f; _

; Z# s3 n$ @' H. A3 D3 p, i" ]4 E0 C5 K信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!0 c* j1 p- _# B: t9 j; |- h

. y9 d1 q7 @( o0 Q7 J不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ P2 A% }% @1 L/ v5 m

9 z1 N3 U' w+ Z% V6 X* N我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 b" P- g$ o# A/ f

! P! ~) H1 t1 `同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
9 n% n. B/ h: O. y( D.............信耶穌... ...
% V* R; S5 ]2 O5 A/ e4 M+ F. rRegarding the resurrection....; i' |) Q2 p8 L  D; ~, ?
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 n6 f8 \; f) B" A0 D6 N  m+ l
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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