Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:& B& @# O" Z1 d, Q; \
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到: B  L7 K4 g1 _# U/ I$ ^( o2 G
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% [( Y( S+ q2 @* M

) T2 i$ i. J7 qNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% f' D( \! b7 x  |2 S( O8 R* M
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 r! c: @; Y( {4 z

, w  \" [4 S1 R5 v2 Astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& R# x. E2 ?( L6 O4 V  B( ?( D- ~# k
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 S' H3 E: R8 O2 F, `我只不過微小的基督徒...................
8 x4 {5 m6 \- h) X$ J真的!!這不是反話! n* L$ z1 u2 F8 G6 W: C
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 T. W& C( @: |' D! H" K以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
. o7 `4 F' u+ ^: z7 S5 a: U在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:8 t9 F; i) R# _* S2 U8 b$ R2 w: _
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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, d) w( n! F$ i! ~: RWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : ~  n- O8 W7 x0 w
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ Z' B$ C- ]' s% k1 {( W
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo' Q0 z! Q+ u6 l

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 p% f0 Q% x5 u2 E; p/ Z8 ?% pbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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3 o4 m4 D9 g7 u1 d3 U* s$ pit's starting because we have sins......
) g, ^. p5 ^$ b  H1 |satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 b! I) W6 A3 @# s# X2 sour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,0 |8 w" O" T  {) Q  I0 o
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
1 u, p9 @4 O! Q6 d/ x) W如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,1 B, s' _! d5 v5 w5 |1 a
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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7 x6 G5 C8 P6 B% B* H8 ~2 e導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ }9 l! X2 s/ b% q& o
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 `# Q6 [8 e( C- B, h8 I# \
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) I% p) C' ^9 m' u) ?5 b+ R
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...2 o8 l5 g& P& P! b. {; N
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 C/ J4 y9 }7 z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干" |& C9 ?- f$ `
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm! X+ b. V  a* s& K

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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* d! z2 t- B/ F& _! m0 l

, E: D6 `7 ~$ q1 J信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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& x7 w& ~+ [9 Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- `4 E8 A. h/ V0 |( Q& O
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:3 P' a3 D3 [8 ~
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.