Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  V% R4 B9 E. C2 x# [  X我係一個連自己都吳信的人- K' C7 O5 {% {. |
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢- \- {! @# N0 D7 ]
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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! ?) S$ `+ G1 i  u1 |Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!5 [" M/ Z3 A/ ?0 J) [

* ~- z# I6 K- l4 |; x9 A( eNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....7 t0 f3 R5 n; Z) g4 D% t$ Z3 J9 ]) ?

' \; }* R; C/ s) g) q- V5 cstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....9 [6 o8 s  L! s
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
. p1 p$ U" b. v! ?我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 E" f2 V/ ?- U" o
真的!!這不是反話7 E9 o. r; A4 y4 q- v
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
& r4 Z9 b5 t8 c9 g以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! X+ N& R( q: D
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." V* {! T! K. X9 E8 Y( Z
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
% R# Q' V: [0 h. w# ^建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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+ W7 y  b, p0 ~3 r( qJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 4 I" V6 F% W9 Q8 g1 K8 i
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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8 W# S0 l: u: u$ M2 ~Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
6 X8 U/ S' F+ ]- }Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 Z  T, F) R; ubut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......! E6 X7 I% z+ l8 h- d
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it's starting because we have sins......
: g' @9 L+ `2 n& d- f) Msatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
- M4 T4 Y% W5 g這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 h; b5 Y: o- C) ~- e, W0 _0 ?如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' M/ C/ F- u/ e6 i6 c9 }而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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9 M0 N) _) b2 @& o- M7 i導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
, t2 M  `5 G/ T& m好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,! O% i" u% ~7 j$ g4 ]% X

$ ]# I3 ]  {$ c8 l% w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
) \" |% v/ p" M' ~改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法$ ~' g* {" p* l7 T# v$ u* s* V
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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" C* u# \, Y" x) b吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: |! _  d' v+ |: M+ D* `$ o( p9 O
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............/ ^2 X8 w! t" i/ I
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. ^1 y9 {0 ~  o2 L2 x
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!+ d) T5 f. e5 ]7 b9 k2 g+ ?  N

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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 [! ~! ~& X6 }2 y( q! x.............信耶穌... ...

" C8 ^+ E0 y. a9 \( ^' L  _0 z; vRegarding the resurrection....  ~% s8 v8 a7 ?* X) m/ ?
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." v7 j0 _7 O; E$ j' F0 \& v
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.