Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 \" f* o' H* h9 Z, u) W6 d, ?' {- H我係一個連自己都吳信的人
  Z6 N( D4 q6 I, m- \7 [又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
) j" x' q# p- _" |1 |- S3 ?道理我知道好多只係做吳到  a7 Z3 Q5 [2 I: {
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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! [4 p9 e/ B) M! F+ m9 HNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 g& l* E8 A  P0 o- f" m9 A

! ]( f% H' F$ G$ a* \7 umr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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+ r4 i8 ^: Z$ p6 B( b7 ?struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!2 Y% y' v8 N3 i# R. P
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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. c9 u# O% E# U8 n2 T, V# D因為我是情感比理性強的人  y- W8 O7 G! Z$ l6 f* _$ R
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,5 S' k/ Q$ t6 @( }1 [
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
6 t1 }4 L9 `5 L在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 @8 ^- q* H4 v- n4 d/ {
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" t4 H  N( X5 b4 i/ g
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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, i$ m9 b  {' Q, |, T' wJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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, a% m" G6 ]* M1 V. j+ V1 ]- }0 ~6 fLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:- l& \8 ^( D$ Y, W3 k
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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% z6 c. D. }( T4 P6 W5 X7 K3 K"不信也沒損失") }, @1 j( V- y+ ]
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ k, k* d# j+ q9 \5 Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......8 S2 o, V  V* t6 V; W- M

! _0 U  e( o0 P% j( F* pit's starting because we have sins......$ S+ N4 {  o) ^  j& {
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 z& |% N$ w( ~4 ~& G
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
1 q& I% B* P1 y& P8 k; d; i- y7 O7 ^只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
, S. s4 t3 w& g9 J用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 c3 A6 P# x2 Y, s" ~0 L  p, I
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
+ l  p' M# O% o" L4 U& ^! S如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ g) l' r* E* H: u而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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. }- E  d" J8 h% k1 R1 Y: S$ N導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' C* e0 _  K0 \: x
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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- m. P) t1 u: |  u! }一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,. h/ S5 D  E' |+ w& R2 O
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法7 W; K" a" h+ _& J
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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4 c$ j+ x+ n6 `  a; s& |# ~宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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  Z$ q# k6 H% A( ~: a' r- S吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,; B0 H  X6 G, W( S% v
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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# n9 g! F6 ~0 d以下是其他人的見解,; V1 I: U5 b) J( E; b3 r  h7 Q! `
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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& x6 u- T9 K$ L' E我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! |0 z  e( [8 _# v
.............信耶穌... ...

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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.