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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:* A- H' o& u9 g7 G. u3 r  q' M
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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# g- ?9 T9 c6 d9 N( d3 N- D道理我知道好多只係做吳到! O" Q2 F( o8 s4 K) P" J
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! T% z- D" Z" U3 L: H
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# {8 t& |; U9 D4 j/ y+ j1 P

/ d/ @$ L( x! z( ^mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' u7 z: S) w7 @; s- I, A4 e1 M
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
$ g6 q5 ]% P% h& \) y- H/ W3 L我只不過微小的基督徒...................
8 Y4 B* f/ l, e真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
9 p  o1 r+ y! [6 \9 _9 n以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,8 C4 W& M) K6 i8 C. \$ ?$ ~
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:* V- l' i1 j' H: I0 u
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?* z8 ?! J, z! b5 X! {! }

* }$ g6 N8 G8 w3 Q# ?& j7 pJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 7 s! ^: [# y4 L" }% ~  |8 G

5 i0 L, b: w% s" ]I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.' D) `# O6 E2 x  W/ Z8 |0 W" u0 i

7 s1 z" k9 A: }4 e$ g+ ~Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:/ p& @$ \' @& ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. |, j6 o5 o, P8 {- y"不信也沒損失"
* s/ n; P/ I. `. W0 i' ]2 z. XYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
' {: ^6 z6 `3 C4 y  O' [but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......' |* |8 R- G+ _1 x* t7 k0 t8 |1 P

- [+ [- e$ h6 }3 f- F( V; [it's starting because we have sins....../ x" a7 `% ?1 `6 p8 _
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 2 w* [; Q! z* a% S
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 j  [3 W0 D& |
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
/ C. Q& m9 T4 T% E用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ `7 O/ K% D( i$ D3 a這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ q" k  ~6 `; S7 ^' S如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,+ A( U0 I/ u5 t% U; |2 Q
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 k. b7 A$ \$ Q+ P7 f
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,) M4 B1 R0 C: B: R8 z9 z
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,) y8 @2 X" u9 T% z7 g
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,% V/ r$ H  m3 T- y: m4 v3 K9 W7 ~
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) W, ?# I$ C8 I+ o
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具9 z  L6 u. Q5 W9 l8 Q, P2 f3 j

4 i6 }6 D' m0 K) l吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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9 G5 i; @3 X/ o: l以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............6 o) S- z$ B9 a& f
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!1 ^2 d/ K9 z, f4 V  ^

& Q% H9 S+ [% L. j, z不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 w! z' R% i& a2 d8 P8 _1 r$ ~

% I- m6 ^8 [2 B我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!. c% m" w" i7 U' y' K

  y! p# t/ i1 g2 u4 z同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
4 p% S, M# k3 I1 B, ?1 j7 J.............信耶穌... ...
4 C, t1 @+ |- WRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 A. `( S; t; S+ {( d' s
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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