Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:/ O: c, ^6 F  G* }) Q( O+ S, I
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 K2 Y2 _5 o9 a7 V
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
4 x: U/ H) f5 S道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 d1 ~# O- h/ b+ k0 @+ x, L呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ z+ Y3 p  h. F( ]Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!: A4 n# X5 M; o1 T
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....4 w5 M$ a4 p5 W' r& H
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ V) t) e& G6 ^% H- C
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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0 R) Y  \% V- H* h! X因為我是情感比理性強的人2 v9 l3 ]8 S9 S( K3 k& L# j
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 Q% x  A" O7 K: R
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:/ ?2 U8 ?6 ~2 e7 k0 T% I& n4 s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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2 ]* @4 [! q, I4 ~. ]Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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# {2 J/ D# F: E7 k- ~4 |, [( ALooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 d8 H' T/ O! _2 n! s
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( o, I% h5 C+ j) V4 V8 Y4 O建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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2 d( {! b5 ?  _& i' |6 C+ U"不信也沒損失"
. s4 f* |- k) [; ~9 M' ~! F9 FYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 |) W; H+ P: ~/ |* F& x4 _but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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0 V. X  ?/ V& d* ^) W& _it's starting because we have sins......
; k# S0 Z4 M" D: K, ksatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 A7 B, e, e8 _8 v( D% Rour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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) ^0 ]1 B* E/ c用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
" L4 `+ n& e/ H而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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" R( m$ v( N! |( }3 Q導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
2 [* i6 z! y  r8 Z2 x7 U& s好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 @1 U' E/ _* k  M5 Z

& q1 s& L2 S' ~! E# a& R6 h# }一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 I% W: \4 ^7 Z. G" ^
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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7 H4 }3 b! E/ G信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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* L) C# l/ a  g, f4 }以下是其他人的見解,
1 O& X) ~9 r5 q+ d# g- o看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) r6 a- \- Y1 F/ Q* K, h

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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 ^+ E. R6 r: ?6 b0 I7 g.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection..... u  i5 G+ a7 m1 o0 r* b% E
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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# k+ G  F8 I' K: TYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.