Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢! p' ~5 Y8 ?" e7 `& S) F' h* e
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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+ F$ x" q4 a- M: q+ t. j! ]" ]Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!8 i1 C0 a1 i( V+ ]5 L: }8 N/ P7 m$ L

. D7 P( C2 Z2 D& c7 VNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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! `2 b' O, _; y  Y' `9 e6 ?; z  Qmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
8 m" {/ @, n% x6 }- ]( |) y7 lcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 F+ {) c2 g4 ]9 Q, }) u4 b3 \' j我只不過微小的基督徒...................
' w/ L) s; [  [4 O6 {6 i2 e5 {真的!!這不是反話
& ~% c. {, m1 Y. _0 u因為我是情感比理性強的人
" Z8 @  F" c/ b/ Z) d/ w所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,* H$ v( L7 F$ Y5 ^
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
8 v" `$ O% T2 G# y3 H( p2 v* m在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:4 ]) V6 Z/ U& x! v9 I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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0 {9 {5 o% e$ D7 s! hJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo1 f3 x5 D8 P8 Y  C1 P4 A' Q

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* ?0 u/ o3 e' |5 w6 b建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
) `, U1 G% i: }5 z! m1 V4 VYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 O. o% g+ b! lbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# D# r  l: Q3 v- U6 S, Q
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it's starting because we have sins......
3 D% c; K" f8 j2 Hsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ) i1 k( h# L" ]& l6 J( k5 f
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; p) O  @4 O1 u" u- ~
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,% ]  C9 X* h9 b" H$ g
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
$ E7 M" {1 V9 J/ q這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全( S. F2 K  }$ U) s3 F1 e- F
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,0 o+ A' D: S5 C+ t& N% f
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~' |; m" J& d7 w2 f. t

# V- g- N. M) L導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. r  T& E1 s& [好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' o" D) y% l5 y4 d6 {9 f

6 S& e% {0 B9 |; A! g7 c& F0 k一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, u. p1 s3 G$ R" Q0 |5 s% z
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
! o- n. P/ B' u0 w' H+ |. k美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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7 w6 ?! Q9 \  W- o3 d% m8 a宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 c; S6 r( \# c信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,. v! p& G5 `' ~2 T# E3 U$ m+ z+ D7 W
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤5 d7 Y0 E7 F7 K6 w, p& H% i. m
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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6 R' }; n9 p, O( b; G! a* i% }不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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4 @; a2 c4 M# T' L4 {; B; }我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!( J; v# `* I) L3 Z/ v, v

$ X( M% D. A3 E. P, P: {6 c3 ?) |同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
! @! F6 z, m4 L.............信耶穌... ...

9 N7 S8 x4 B7 N9 \& WRegarding the resurrection....
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. P( ]4 @" R. R2 d* WActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....) k1 \, g+ g3 N3 M" B! w1 t
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.