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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
7 Y0 [: O4 K3 L+ d4 J% n. p0 R我係一個連自己都吳信的人
$ ]$ X! ]4 Y! A$ |* s; |/ P4 y7 f: [0 Z又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢; @5 U, k) B' M: P, l
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 e4 P  J" x; [' L# N9 k呢D就係做人的悲哀
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5 ]1 x4 T+ ^% `2 L$ vNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 g7 e' D* G& i
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....  F6 b2 `% E! Q  }6 l

' @# d$ J+ S! v1 @1 i0 T5 imr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 d" ?7 a$ z4 p3 Z+ D: `. Q1 j

: k, J9 n, m3 k- Sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
) K) |2 n, Q' Q" bcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!' i! W* [' \  A0 a9 q/ n- C, r
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
: P7 P5 [% Q) T8 \' U真的!!這不是反話
0 b' W4 v6 c/ j4 Q+ ?! o4 I( V* I因為我是情感比理性強的人
$ y& I# N# C0 a7 \+ t所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,7 @" S: k6 o( k  d* G
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
, F$ E) [7 S7 }0 R在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
4 n# M4 [' M1 u6 ?* T* ]& j' w  t& P正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ R" O, g6 m$ ?' _建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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9 w5 q- k9 V/ _7 }What a statement we have here?
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! |  m% ]( c; jJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ; \: {8 i! S, j# f
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.- T& d1 X+ \; K5 P9 x* ?' w1 C

$ S3 B! `/ ]/ E/ V6 `; _  n' ~  f4 aLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 y: ?! R7 {1 z8 g  E- `
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' q& D" W2 V4 Z$ g[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
! ]$ N" V3 e3 M0 G/ b! n建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"2 Z  d$ P) v& {9 l1 V3 a& u/ _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 ?# O% f0 i) Z7 H
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; l) @4 e- F5 w6 n1 x, q

0 b3 \: M- `7 p% P3 H$ v0 dit's starting because we have sins......
, l5 b1 L' k4 E! Z- \satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 u6 @4 U5 i) D$ W' T1 jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
! a  @# V, L! t" [! @! ]5 W只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 K5 ]) @% j  h% i* k8 I用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 n" b% x, h  s* S$ Q4 B* P這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全! ?7 S1 d9 L; t$ N) K# z2 F
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
9 U! B7 v" w3 H5 ~! a8 L而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~; h2 T% B$ A# q9 Q5 o

' f! E+ |* |) n8 D/ J7 A導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. @2 L5 [* T. A. O0 |好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,) }8 D2 ^( A) B- C, t8 I+ A4 v

# b( d6 B, Q4 X  a3 n3 v一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
3 h4 C; R! w6 H" |改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( S: N5 n" [1 g$ G; U- ^
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具; x$ S: _: e" V! Y' G0 t- `' ^7 a

# x4 ~/ ^: o0 n吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( n) D& K$ P- h3 e! U3 }# S; Z' |信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干2 }& s9 j/ a6 e, X% Y# |6 I0 o! \
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以下是其他人的見解,
+ u3 J5 v2 D8 w$ U9 c' s看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
" O( M; ~, I2 _) O; ahttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............$ B; H, L0 S9 V, g, q  W

7 X1 f2 I8 h( j信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. ?" N1 K2 x" a, a
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! Q# d8 A5 G! L
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:& e- f9 }, K, w' f# t9 a9 O
.............信耶穌... ...
# Q' f" o- I. Q0 ]  jRegarding the resurrection....4 n* W7 l6 u, w  J- c5 U
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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4 p4 J+ s9 I- yYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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