Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:& U: D, y* l3 y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人4 q$ Q) U! W" i* o' N1 N$ O5 I
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢( x' M- d% J+ k2 L. N0 g8 ?7 Q- n- G; R
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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( K7 Y6 p8 I6 sNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!0 D, C% b, J, r0 `/ [8 e1 i0 u
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...../ @5 ]3 ~1 w+ N2 x5 D
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!4 R: ?- u! v* S  W' v
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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* I6 g1 O7 `; ^% y/ E. a因為我是情感比理性強的人
! ~4 y( `) q2 O  s3 \所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 r6 c# M$ _! i9 ^
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,0 Q- y& J$ b1 q& n
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:2 j: B/ J/ U6 I( N1 U- |0 P- H' s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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) d# n- D. \6 s# ~, f: J, U- C/ H6 R! UWhat a statement we have here?
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$ I) q* q! e3 r1 S3 Z3 oJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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/ Y2 O2 \& N0 S5 b' KI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, s1 y2 T" G3 S
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:+ }. X& i( L# q% o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
- a3 T5 T7 ]+ yYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) C' ~" Y9 e3 d/ y0 t
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......4 {  r' g3 j5 {2 ^( k

0 a, u/ s( E. m1 S4 V5 `( M) K, H: vit's starting because we have sins......
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( N% Z2 {, ]8 _" }9 hour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
6 \# q1 X# Y8 A這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% }2 ~" M& w" W) D) N+ d' o
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,. T7 z3 z5 l3 y; \. H7 a& }
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~, H$ V7 ~8 n, Z& ]. \. W* }

2 W- r0 ~7 ?& e! m- a9 y: @" n導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,5 R& E' [! D0 @* ^: J
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...) m- z( b7 T7 o) [

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,0 F$ W' u& J6 c4 O
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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, a  z' k+ R  z' ~以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............' n2 d# I3 j0 O/ I1 i3 ^
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!0 c5 M: ?" I, V% l6 @" X7 w% G& e7 v# ]

7 h4 U# b; Y3 m# c- `不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!0 v& b* F& a' M+ _: b
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ r9 u; E' \. _' n2 B

2 ?6 {7 S8 }/ t6 U同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
+ O3 b8 o0 k' V+ ^4 _5 M.............信耶穌... ...

/ A: e  M% h% u* M: C& }Regarding the resurrection..../ [& b  |+ _5 U7 s- a! B& `5 [

: W" k6 V& }  \! O" x6 d8 g+ aActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.