Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
: D; L0 S/ \" W. H: D9 {9 Y我係一個連自己都吳信的人7 L1 `' ?: A1 F. |2 g+ W9 j
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
) c0 n3 B% |. O5 Y4 h9 ?: p3 S* R1 \道理我知道好多只係做吳到2 M8 ], A* U8 H% M7 W+ B
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!7 k6 n3 D: w9 I" F4 T6 I

1 x: S- @: @5 ^0 ~& jNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....0 W$ `2 P) Q4 {- u
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, ]8 v8 E0 y# x9 o6 a7 ~( mstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
+ ~+ _, k8 Y5 J  Q% Scheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
! x6 r) m" m2 z' X) F" W我只不過微小的基督徒...................5 s, x% w! _1 I3 K* _7 l
真的!!這不是反話5 L8 I& G% C) L; j5 o  a% ]
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
5 D0 G, s% N; w' b1 k以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
5 A) R8 r( ~/ R在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 G4 E5 ?" C7 }- }& d6 q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! P0 N+ H4 R  `0 FWhat a statement we have here?# l2 d8 K. f8 m" s/ [3 ?

4 U+ t/ m3 Z) L& @+ LJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 1 ~& i; Z+ O% q/ d- A

; {4 A+ w8 O/ ^7 P! ?5 RI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) ^+ M+ y- T8 Z; \; q, R

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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1 x8 O& k+ G& h. O! Y"不信也沒損失"; y, v/ `8 O/ ~: [. L; B& h5 A2 o
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....$ n( U! W, q1 d; `1 j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
, v) c, C( W# T8 O* q" D8 rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 [/ V2 J. M' \* [7 H* u: z& ^our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"! f. S8 e) {) @) N9 D/ l
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊," k4 G2 M& \1 e1 p
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,8 q7 q$ I* D* J. o: @0 X2 n
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全& J/ e+ s. L: K; t
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* a. M$ v7 Z% G% t1 x* F
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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$ z; W  w0 b/ v7 O$ {導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,2 @$ Q6 T- M+ v* H
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' Z+ r) K$ w  E
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
0 S+ L) X- n/ o+ [改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: }8 V$ l& O( ^# v  B6 U9 E美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ V$ h. K# v$ K吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,, B, k  H) T3 u
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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2 g; i" J5 d; o3 J7 I1 ?$ t以下是其他人的見解,% f" G' P7 J' _3 X
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤+ j' R+ ?9 J) b& `0 ]* E& _
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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# O7 ~% M# c* Q( P我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!. Z; ]2 M" y7 z( V

) }/ c, ?* ^8 W1 L6 L同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:/ Z% T% p( t# {- v2 F( K* t
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....* m+ j" T1 L$ A" ^1 j2 h

$ B4 @9 s. R% O4 C$ ^5 nActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.