Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
* ^0 x0 Q2 b: G) c8 f# N2 n) s我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到! S! ^6 H" C9 @6 U  i7 y
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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: w3 K* ~0 m1 Z4 l4 e. sNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! N% P, k, D  T) A5 ^2 E
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...." J4 E5 N4 [* w+ W

4 x4 `- R, O8 G" I9 Emr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..... [9 Y8 t5 j1 H# n1 ~0 e9 w* g
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....& q2 @( E" E# K2 t5 _* }$ o6 m
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
& g; B; f0 t* v' }$ L% D7 D我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 q4 \* f6 h* {! Y
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 r5 [- K& ]' V, j: M: s以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
7 @' Y: T( k% E* A, \! d在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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8 i/ h) Y$ U2 q% J/ BWhat a statement we have here?
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4 j* J* M9 H0 k1 M* R- |( _Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : M! n- Y: P& {. p

! h* Q7 E# |( i4 vI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"1 @1 S: Z  B  _3 z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....$ r) A: G5 T# Y# P; o0 t$ M0 F
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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$ b0 [4 s" N0 z/ u7 {0 f( Git's starting because we have sins......6 a. ]- S/ Z0 A! Q
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
+ y# M9 G) g* P: h% p3 eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* B$ {) ], B6 {( j& ?% _7 U只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
$ e% C$ X7 q6 T2 V, C$ L用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
3 J# c1 j" h  O% P6 b; k; I這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全8 J% _8 r9 e0 _3 u
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
! O4 ~/ G6 V& M) c4 \而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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/ |3 W+ d& q0 n- G+ O導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. o! |) o8 `, |7 u- k) t6 ]好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 k. K  R- G7 L1 }/ f/ v: B9 E
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ X' I8 U) h4 g# v6 C
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) X! D/ f8 s/ t0 h2 a5 p& }& g
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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- h6 K, f" K4 }) B8 _吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
) H/ Q$ d( x/ A7 J  U& k. |5 {信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
8 W: D4 A/ S( W- c看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤) d9 Z5 F# {, v9 d3 N  E' Y3 [
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* ?6 B8 h6 d7 \" L) c+ q$ J& d- K[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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6 C- X  L! e. M& C7 [信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 M$ U3 L; C8 ?  {, C/ H
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! I1 J3 m! U  W7 @
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
7 n& K$ \8 S8 [* a& [.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...., d4 J  R5 `( T1 X! U4 {$ O* D7 D

; e0 w! v/ O& I* g$ z8 z9 V/ eActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: l' e7 E6 {$ @  m
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.