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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
! Q* h. m/ r; ^* {$ m* p: |' N我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ {. b3 k3 p# K8 x( W- [
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
& J% j8 ^0 N% Z% j) Z道理我知道好多只係做吳到
4 u% Q. D. y/ X+ A; K4 ?) r8 d呢D就係做人的悲哀
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2 I$ Y6 \: W- h" Y. ~) f/ _Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!1 k4 U/ M: F1 K- v$ U: e

) F- g  w* p( B' p$ \4 f3 HNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....# ]6 g# H  |/ L% z9 u( e
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....( a+ z, j" S7 m& d
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 L* g8 O0 K. r0 i0 {8 R: U我只不過微小的基督徒...................6 z1 l& Z: N9 `# x" t3 ^
真的!!這不是反話( O" B- N; i# P( d
因為我是情感比理性強的人) ^4 R& P% }  g& `
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ j& ]$ W7 W+ d2 T! f. a以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ z8 p( p# S' h/ X8 b; H在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
* c. w. L: E' w建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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" f& W! m" ?, HWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : b& x+ z9 L) v0 q( [( k0 [

! l5 ~: d* b9 pI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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& o% O2 r! m; N4 J! x, \Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:! F$ A. y4 g* R, n! s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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8 |* ?% G9 b- ^) |4 v5 }. s2 g3 Z7 |6 s"不信也沒損失"8 n# z; R7 W& Y6 J* k8 u1 U
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: V3 T; B" g- B, |/ W0 d# l) C- Z
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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+ X7 w( t( O5 h) M9 I3 H- sit's starting because we have sins......" C6 v2 ?" a" z: j& v# D0 p7 t
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 0 H* \4 U7 j9 J* D
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"# W; N$ Y- b! |. }" J; @% y" B
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
5 s$ o( r; u( ?! ?7 S用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
9 y8 Z( ~/ @: J! Z8 d這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) {% D. T1 _; g7 s2 ]% Z如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' G* R5 G$ n* \而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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9 z5 D/ F* M  l# j  t, c導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
  ^- _# g# F8 w2 o$ ~好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,( [( C# C: I$ |! R
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, q. y+ ~6 [2 I5 q# C3 c
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
& |' S6 |, _6 D' B4 b# ~美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...- h! a( M) c6 ~3 j% P6 V& N* u
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! Y0 p: \. a2 M+ s1 b- [" k  m
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干+ U' v- ^6 k: W9 l- p% G+ W2 O

6 Z  l$ d3 ], ~8 R* ]  s以下是其他人的見解,/ X% e- j7 X5 y2 ^
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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8 Y1 v$ ^  ^$ [[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* T1 p! z! z5 t  ~7 ?( F' M7 A- J, S

( M$ ^0 v: k5 G$ ]' Q3 H; @' J0 _信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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9 \7 M( T6 s6 R% v0 g; N) Q) h不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!$ s6 x: P+ I# s: T* A: k7 ^* ^% V1 k

( R( j* K% c. y* b. g' C% G. Z2 a我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 c7 L2 \0 c1 Y' G

3 K4 B8 R' V3 m) g& ?/ j: [同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:7 }0 l& [+ s/ O+ V+ V! V5 x3 Z
.............信耶穌... ...
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) ]3 n4 m' I: i* sActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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8 ~, h. K7 _% X$ A; JYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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