Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 R! l6 q1 m' Z; G我係一個連自己都吳信的人( ~0 t$ ~) i* \7 h: [/ j6 T
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 h7 e8 n( |; R
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
5 a' _/ p; i5 d2 U$ q呢D就係做人的悲哀

3 {- ^7 ^2 W! e/ e: \
6 h/ `; Z2 e: O- P& S! X7 @: zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
2 M! R- o* l! Z3 ]9 c7 x9 b0 T
6 f, l3 ~8 s% C: _' MNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
! F( \# V2 ~% z; \/ c  W. D
# `1 H: i  y: F6 X/ F! l( h1 t' Nmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
1 p5 ?! R- U! ]. S$ B$ P8 c9 r
) k3 Y% h" F! I2 b' P0 Sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
% o& E, e9 }" ^! ~; Z0 @* Wcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 W; X& E5 J  p5 d" u我只不過微小的基督徒...................
% U- F/ i# A( _- r* ]2 q真的!!這不是反話- Y# s6 I9 v4 o' f
因為我是情感比理性強的人
/ w5 G( Y& ~4 _4 r/ _# i所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 ~  A" R5 _+ G) B% ]2 t% p
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
( w3 w2 I# T* r- U$ h- R5 U3 U在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
* R2 a2 R+ Y: z4 w/ b正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:- U; h8 r1 S. c1 \% ?$ }: B6 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

, d. @$ @1 U+ ]" ?, \
  |5 J& L- G) {/ ]What a statement we have here?3 f) p' m( U3 j0 |, Z) |
/ W5 X4 l" J+ s# A' W% g
Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? : e8 K6 M; p/ g% B* l% E

" D' i- T) x* O2 H6 }I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
; T3 ?& z( z! C. \- ^/ b+ E6 i6 U, L$ ]4 ?
Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo6 R9 u8 r8 Q0 p( t

: J  [* X- p! D0 y: |7 N:cool:
. _/ I7 y2 i2 x- C- ~, A: i
! ?/ [. X0 g; T- T3 N% l6 Q) F[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( F$ Z! R* q3 `9 j2 m
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

( o% y% S4 k/ e, F- b- X6 g" j
. R+ g" s* Z2 i( p2 @7 Q: d
"不信也沒損失"
$ V- M( w4 P# ?6 ]7 kYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 N6 w7 d; H6 ^2 vbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
. \: ~3 k0 U5 j: c& Y# l$ l7 |: ?% c! H3 O' r! C" W% S
it's starting because we have sins......
* r# ]$ Q; N+ q# E. rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 l/ K% P9 [) u( Z* @our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 d4 t5 E' V, C1 M. w
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
5 _/ L5 e  n$ G  K用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,0 F* p* L5 ~+ n, B1 r
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全' t' X4 [: [- T' u
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,$ L9 m" a) ]( I9 A
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
+ B3 h6 |. L  U8 P2 ~' P# ^6 ?3 u4 }6 R* E5 V% F1 g
導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,- |0 p1 V# ]# |: I( e" x
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
7 B1 [" S* x: D
, s* p% C0 N; c: A/ `一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,! R/ p6 `  ^! @( X
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 l( d' ]" R9 [5 o* \+ l美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
" h+ l" g5 n; B9 P4 [
' J% K/ T) y+ y( x! Y. r# x) _4 W. q) I宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
" d, C; N% k/ F7 G7 ?
& I7 o5 C8 E& [' a5 S吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
6 q6 O. G4 B: b- r信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
2 a, W9 [+ T4 ?: z
1 W8 s; \  K: y' f" s以下是其他人的見解,
+ s7 P' |/ b4 k看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
- Q4 ^4 x! t/ Hhttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm, P  L" q8 s5 p) B+ Y# [

6 V$ @7 ~+ a3 P9 e6 D. P) p[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............! g0 |" h& l# Y3 d+ \* z! W! g% \$ j. Q9 i

8 a2 t6 q% E6 u5 y信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
- m/ J$ u+ g. d  A, s' }6 y" R0 Q8 T
不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
0 @# r# F. K  x8 m/ p* T# D3 x3 S( f4 ^0 Q9 p
我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!" f- G/ G3 O, r' H" U( y: V
* L8 q- G- ?6 s0 D
同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
9 X4 g* n) O9 J* ]5 v1 ].............信耶穌... ...

, K$ k, Q; K! N" J
Regarding the resurrection....
; {3 P* r0 e1 E4 }9 I
) R0 y; n" i+ D& h, U4 j2 HActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
1 q, t# y, Y0 l* S
  g, B$ P& E. X+ nYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.