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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% d: E- y4 y* g2 t& A. `  x* H$ a
我係一個連自己都吳信的人9 [) I2 n2 r2 \+ D5 N# ]) |0 f
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢9 o0 e0 A8 Y. \* `5 K
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
# Z5 K4 b6 m0 W呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....4 `+ p- U# K# q0 y6 T

3 ]* @9 }+ Z9 ]+ E6 C: n* o" S3 m7 Kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves...... H" P# `/ i, ]8 x
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
  K1 n  s0 H+ p- k6 }# x+ l  A我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! W, I5 @: ~1 N, _以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,: V6 u6 ]$ p7 ]
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:6 g8 v" W1 L9 `4 p  a2 ]
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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2 b8 `7 a5 |4 m6 ^9 o' T/ UJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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7 y- F2 J4 A$ II do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., p- P/ c6 \3 p3 b
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ R! |, o! L+ v建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. @) c- E  ^% V  V"不信也沒損失"  M- b) w9 H# c! ~
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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( R) i! [, E' u& o! O) T. j0 cit's starting because we have sins......
3 _; b/ M% w$ g; zsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us # B  w: k8 `: `- q  f1 \
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"& j# ]# @) d+ V+ ?, w
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全0 @! M+ C. T/ k. R) D0 W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
) A7 y# s! p4 d2 H而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~0 Z. B5 K5 t; ~, M" F% \
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,# K0 A3 {; m' R* r9 s1 @2 w8 D
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同," \$ V. ^: E6 a  S% j% i% d

5 N! D! u6 \  n7 w. A& M一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
2 v( j/ T1 @" J& n改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
# J; Z" _/ {: F; P! n$ {6 C- V美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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5 G  L; w4 F( y6 O3 x3 }吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
7 }4 w# h0 ]. ^信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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- j' i3 X9 x7 s* c  u% c+ K以下是其他人的見解,9 B0 e$ {6 S$ S* o
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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0 B8 i5 u! \+ |# e[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* a: G0 O3 }, z8 w, n* M

# V" J% _& g2 i" E2 D; s6 W" e( f信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!/ X* r+ H+ r6 K# Z& v9 K: {/ {

; G% J' w! ?1 @5 }# C9 n9 l" I不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!& V" t. Q" s) Q0 W/ o$ k

0 r' o: a1 @& o4 R5 q) `. K我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 S1 ^9 [) q6 ~) \5 @$ I# Y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
) K+ f. u2 T$ S.............信耶穌... ...
& B8 h3 T. N9 P/ IRegarding the resurrection....
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$ F, d4 ?. t7 J3 n6 [) NActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....! D5 B3 s2 G; c
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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