Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:5 \! ]4 ?6 V) H' {+ e( ~
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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! G0 o4 C! Q9 Z( _  \0 R5 ^1 P道理我知道好多只係做吳到; C1 x: n) i2 Y" }! `- L: M/ D
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! @4 v; Y3 s: x' [" D

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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) c1 Z4 [6 Z7 [struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
( Z! E/ O8 g2 z: B$ \# Wcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
" r) A! e7 N# n; H. i  E我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人: G% H# X4 |& L2 ?" F- s
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& Q$ Z3 f. H7 S
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
- r5 Y; q6 x0 N6 g! s0 O9 R建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' I' S$ M' O% e& A, C4 ~What a statement we have here?
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1 U5 H& v6 q* QJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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% u+ s0 d% C: d3 F3 CI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.* T4 i5 j, |# w0 j7 Z/ k+ h
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:6 `8 b3 I7 W% k. [) e0 e4 D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....1 ^7 E* J; s8 Z$ p
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
( O6 `% V% p1 a5 x0 l0 Bsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
; I% M% Q. o# {% T! x$ Iour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"5 [$ {3 _7 w, }% ]5 e# C7 g: u; H
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,* a3 |+ B& h; Y, y" ^
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,/ @" R$ o2 A% E5 z; K1 X
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,7 V  y9 `' o+ p0 j8 K
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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0 D5 E1 U9 s# A) ]- ~: P3 @一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
4 Z$ v* x  c! g% u改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法6 f0 J( v) C+ c2 g$ q
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具- X0 q/ n$ N' k# C" t& f
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,( ^; y5 F& a+ }: G0 S. W) {$ t
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 I3 m" m) m2 W) ?+ O3 Y
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!, A% _  L7 T  A
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* o% c, }4 h% m9 |; ?9 V2 B4 Y/ g
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 l- v  v' j: G9 s+ K3 S( E! G
.............信耶穌... ...

4 _3 `7 ^( Q9 vRegarding the resurrection....2 h$ c& R3 I* K8 n% _  u' S' A* M

8 E7 Y& A5 O, Y8 ^/ N8 ~" S0 tActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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* K7 Q; g" d; L8 T: hYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.