Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:6 K6 l) q1 k2 k: a$ \. ]
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
$ P( k, @- o" y6 X呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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4 |9 ^4 W% }4 V. y7 O* j& Y( r  dNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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1 u( o' N; q$ h; Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....+ E* v: b$ E1 H2 w7 s
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!6 r4 N9 @' O; R* T8 Y
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 d2 B6 Y' _) v" B! I' f
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& P  ~8 `- e0 O" R0 f* J8 t' K
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
7 b2 H5 r$ R) f. o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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2 }2 Z* V* w7 v3 {( ~. i# ]7 Q$ TJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 7 \- ^6 N5 }! e% C; u. w
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.. F: d! {: y3 U. J4 @$ }$ h7 ~

6 ?3 U0 ]" f: P  _! ULooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, `/ l' l4 f- z, r3 {* M. P: W

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  r: {, E$ p. \0 }: b+ T) c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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1 L' ~! T6 Z! \"不信也沒損失"
0 R$ l) T0 |3 j4 C  T8 n2 SYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......1 \& o- Y' B# O% t
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: f; v, M, }- _9 A+ pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 Z0 [* I, F$ }) m4 Z/ z  |只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,# r! U( a# T! |9 b
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
% \( b7 U' S. v& }這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
8 g+ \* O" j  m4 s3 V如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,6 @$ p  j$ L* U' y6 i; a* A
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~% f# }% j, ]: j, p/ @' s
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 e6 w' o* g% r7 X3 w, ~7 C" V
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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3 h/ B) L4 a( L改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
/ W; X  B4 _; O' s美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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( y. ]2 z" M8 D0 x9 U吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,  ~8 N; x. }& a9 g! C  f
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干$ s3 q& k; u+ U3 b1 {
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以下是其他人的見解,4 q- B! |+ Q; y* T, G' P
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤: E8 m1 U9 J) Q% c. j
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- ]- i- _! t2 @5 M( Q
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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* M5 Y. |  E6 s4 B/ I7 n不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 x$ y" h5 H- e* s

- {( ~+ r+ B5 ^7 U+ V+ f! e2 i, N0 s我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!4 @( A( N# ~5 v: H

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 z/ j7 I/ e5 d1 k
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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# W/ P2 {+ c/ @3 QActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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5 Q4 O$ L. g+ y2 K. N8 C3 qYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.