Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:& a/ e9 l1 ?% a" _: T4 D3 b2 O
我係一個連自己都吳信的人  \; _. o) ?2 W3 q- A
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢) [. [# v( B& A9 v3 y
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!; Y" d& Q5 \7 A" q0 ~. T

2 n  T# r+ e/ }& jNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 _2 h3 x9 Q. l+ ~8 n, {9 L, Xcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!3 U. s3 s! n+ W; j; J: \5 x2 F
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." Z1 ?' c4 Y' h+ ?) z: ]
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,7 J9 c- V: u: ?1 i' n7 F/ w8 X
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
7 H6 Y& f" w) ~$ Q2 k在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
) {4 j* ~, M. n建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 e) |- u4 a6 m0 g% a) }What a statement we have here?
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2 Y" l& C, u' GJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) }! d! ]" {: w  y2 [0 }I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
' ^8 A% J4 P/ X) ]7 s2 t" V建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"% D" _9 `0 @  x! s) w: u) r$ e3 o. D
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....8 O* R+ v7 {7 S( l% x4 L' s
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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) \& D) U" o. h' h  Hour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
1 g2 N/ x8 D& Z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: {8 F! w# ]- L8 R# a
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
. M/ F- Y$ p5 a& N而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~4 i* K  O& L' J: `* T! I% i
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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; Q% v/ F- @& ~1 |一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,: f, D1 ?# w! k) i6 R8 C1 M
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
5 b0 H. K2 O/ f美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
) e( L, ]1 M9 z; y5 @  R信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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& _! j, [5 G: I0 k( L以下是其他人的見解,% S$ M3 \3 e$ N, x. u& ?# @
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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7 O6 i% g! Q$ H* r$ ]信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ C  F( _) q' \( A  G9 ]

! y6 S5 R) `% y4 e我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!: c, m7 J5 ?5 ]/ d3 S5 m. k
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
8 B1 q( B  f- F% l& L1 R' S# v.............信耶穌... ...

) R! ^, T8 {* S. ~) [6 \0 {Regarding the resurrection..../ M$ P, u0 v7 ?. ?4 y( `

: J, v2 o( E+ R7 @: T5 u, E, FActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 u$ W* B+ T" O5 M' P
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.