Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 J, v% N; [, F0 T+ E; J
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
+ b* K5 m4 k6 e) T8 ^又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
7 ~$ p+ s2 H! @/ j# a道理我知道好多只係做吳到  z# l$ @  A5 C7 U/ I) C8 ?/ h  y
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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" r9 U$ g2 N# }" {% ZNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, r" P; c3 d% {9 q, L4 ?: Rstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ C2 `# S- z, `8 P+ B
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 |; l1 l' L. {/ z& e我只不過微小的基督徒...................$ `& y8 `) @, v/ n- d4 U
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ [4 z! ^" b2 ?0 A) F
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:/ A5 W9 i/ u. n
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 n) a3 K! r: w. d* O, m& KWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 4 K( A2 ?8 R" {) f8 S) }" d
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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( f5 r# b! m& ^3 XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:8 c. f; z/ l  J/ W+ V+ {4 M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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6 E3 [/ e' w3 J; x"不信也沒損失". Z3 g) `* ?* o2 n1 k
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 ?) @) v" p% x' Kbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......0 n1 a9 k/ Z/ h/ `0 {2 u1 M# Z
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求": R1 C  r- s4 c* ?; b1 F, t, g# z
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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+ [% l- Q$ ?1 \1 |; h/ \6 s9 q這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
/ T5 q* p% r1 p, N& {" c4 n9 H5 N如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 Z' [: r* U8 ?- E0 ?' _+ T而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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% p! U5 F( b' d導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
/ ?- b- ?- f8 Y3 s# L好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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4 F) D. x, w/ @: l% c一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,' L: r8 [7 M" J5 X
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具: \9 t6 [$ u' r- }4 y/ F$ |
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,2 Y, v& P! W( Z! L8 e( i7 n( V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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/ C# d/ z- G" _# }7 d5 n以下是其他人的見解,
$ w; x( D) H7 S$ }- Q$ }3 E看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............; q" ?  ^9 H" G+ T6 {

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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!; l: U) f$ r# L) |) S' I+ q
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....1 L# o3 ?  w  I: A
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....! g( n/ _6 I8 |# P) m

0 k0 W% n* Q- a8 J4 Y# C8 A$ g" ]  I9 kYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.