Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
+ C% d' d; X3 T3 f. }我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 V: g9 I; H0 p+ E, N/ y又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
4 {! _+ A- @2 U2 A7 s& ]道理我知道好多只係做吳到% U6 ?+ q! J2 X- J, A  q$ b
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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9 D1 v# M- f' h3 c" QNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* s6 o5 s: B( d" h) Y4 \% F+ [* W
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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0 W" }+ [# C# G$ X  K* a/ x8 Pmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# y7 q3 X+ u, l
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....# W; o( H3 [4 C# C9 j0 M0 _6 S
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
" `2 j' d% r2 F: d5 A我只不過微小的基督徒...................; _  H3 }. Z9 s5 U' E8 m
真的!!這不是反話2 P2 ^2 a0 X/ p. w' b) o
因為我是情感比理性強的人
( I4 V0 @, j1 x% x/ E  s2 e8 k1 n所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
/ S2 \) Y0 g. h4 r4 {+ h% J' S% g以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- q3 G$ K" q3 ~7 |& Q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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9 r, {: Q& t3 G& bWhat a statement we have here?& y- t. O4 y0 b/ |; u; k/ _

9 w* E' o- S7 C' KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ' y: @6 ]  S0 u& H4 q$ c

$ @  g3 G; ^8 Z0 |5 \' ~I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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" _! a- y* |/ hLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo$ N) d' O, \0 @# |! e9 u* x3 f

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( E: r; Y. K% U" P
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"& O0 v' X3 j1 [! w
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....9 b- j0 U0 ~; i9 c
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......5 J6 o$ o8 e) A& O% L
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it's starting because we have sins......
1 k; @5 m$ ~3 l1 ^satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 z. _; d6 P7 h) E) K* t
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
/ H6 ^+ w1 Q( @2 ^; z只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
+ b% X% m0 l# D! P! R用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,$ e! }, H+ k( G2 o1 I2 j( g
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! V3 n) ^$ l& j1 U4 i6 F如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
! j" b; G; e' p3 ?5 ?而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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) L# @& F  q; ^" u. `% f導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,( p8 b# v: Q* b4 c/ T
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
3 i! J! s  W  Z( [9 s' E; ^" }改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
+ I/ T/ _1 J8 a, Y7 Y8 O; f, g美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 Q* w: R4 |( v
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,7 [( ~  _4 S! P/ K- T* V, E
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤' s/ e, k; Q4 x) i. V- B5 W& I
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............% m5 d% f& |7 g# i0 U; s- ]
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 w2 u* D% S) T. O

1 S7 O, ?$ ?+ c$ e1 W我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!7 Q) z/ m( i1 @' j
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 A( ?: G3 L2 R9 H; p
.............信耶穌... ...

6 e7 }6 M: |2 S( Z+ s' U3 DRegarding the resurrection....) Y3 J$ |* _9 Q/ H
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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8 \/ C: p7 X' z1 v& a% }' NYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.