Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:4 c( d; L& l4 ~1 E
我係一個連自己都吳信的人+ I; z. X' [, t+ a
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
. o& {1 {2 n% r9 [道理我知道好多只係做吳到- a( m+ N5 ?- q
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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9 Q& p' M: a; ~  o3 p" y$ f9 INobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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" x9 H: r0 O& V3 \5 gNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 q3 _) \. o% Y- Y$ Z9 r

. X; d% h. r- |2 M4 Dmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* ?  y/ }6 r  u
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- V: O3 J% I( t2 d5 Y9 I
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!; A& v  x1 i9 N# K; B
我只不過微小的基督徒...................& y, e2 j& Y: V, S. G% K
真的!!這不是反話) A: y* I9 Y0 K$ W
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
9 X" T% f3 b8 |' p$ k4 l1 f, F1 N以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,( u+ I- R' c5 ~6 G* D/ O
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
% R. h# c3 }0 h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?3 v% Q( I! f9 P) f. P  U
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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' j# ]( \. h6 d. K9 @1 |9 [, BI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# T: r) E( X/ i- l+ J
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# `5 b7 b' M$ ~. F4 L; ?
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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% T9 x: A2 g3 L, W+ _; S: n( F6 V! }"不信也沒損失"% T. E+ T6 F* F: v( }: U' f3 W! T
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......2 F1 S8 X- h9 I4 O  R# h
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 8 ?0 r" v: Q; p6 V0 i; L
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
7 P9 V0 [) I( x7 C6 A這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
0 ^. T2 Y. C9 C9 h: |3 N) ^# W如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
3 X8 F2 d4 M+ m8 f; U而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,8 b3 F* P0 D( q
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,1 S* M# I5 @: l: ^7 W$ L
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
8 P/ Z' o" ]3 R美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...+ k! e" {; W; r+ u# b0 q

5 v/ g; e1 k( E, Z5 e* d2 K6 R- K4 P1 t3 E宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具5 X" g4 V( p; k: H
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,3 A4 m6 N+ P( y& k& r- I
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
4 i/ P7 s4 k! U看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* x$ w) Q1 Q8 n% l1 l0 Y
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!1 v) }! `' S$ x: {2 D
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ c5 [& \6 O5 ]# D1 [6 C8 m
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:9 d6 h, b0 C2 ?9 _) o& e! X
.............信耶穌... ...

8 x7 m* D7 N" M. ~Regarding the resurrection....
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" c( \# Z, n1 k  V5 l3 aActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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7 w" v! X; p. t1 G( M% R* k  b9 S$ |You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.