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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:* E8 E" T' ?3 X3 x4 d. Q4 \/ V
我係一個連自己都吳信的人/ O6 I  C# \9 p/ T/ X
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
# w" H$ v6 z. @: z8 R3 O! o道理我知道好多只係做吳到
# G: N! A) R! D呢D就係做人的悲哀
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7 U, U, D5 ~" l0 YNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ B: N8 F  M) Y  o) o" ^

  U, @, X9 _7 l4 s% ?8 q3 vNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....6 ~; s# G. A" B
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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, \1 a' ~/ ?, Y: R9 Ostruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....2 t, B/ y; \  H2 a8 h1 ~
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 p$ ~. V  S( X" s我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人6 I: S9 V  l- I  W; G4 N- {: k$ M9 `
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,7 o: A$ k/ M+ p: e1 H; T
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,+ K( {/ F8 r; o% {% e
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 X- U: F6 R: \' p8 Z
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?* c6 o' W/ }- j  F# ]

; R7 T; ]5 _9 ~Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 f- a( d7 Y* S6 Y

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
) n% u3 ^3 M4 Q4 q1 ~' t) q建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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! B; E+ W/ m0 ~& l"不信也沒損失"& i/ T( `. }5 X* P( _4 k$ [
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
# [/ D! Z; B1 J! ]8 P" Bbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; i! X; F/ \& d8 V

$ Y' T; ?. z# x. |$ H8 d$ |/ C' q; ]  nit's starting because we have sins......1 t$ m4 X5 L0 F, L4 H; D; W2 f# O( ]
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
1 |5 K% Z. ?' X6 U" dour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  Z$ D# W. G$ W( w$ R4 c
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,' p1 @& \: V. K( }9 G7 A6 Q$ a
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,. m5 G: }" `2 N  W7 z; z- v1 q! m
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全& v8 T5 m' C: r
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," Q3 K7 D) O- d8 D0 B2 }* \0 W
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~/ s% Y4 J( d6 i% e3 C" d, J

8 t) d  r- C2 h2 m導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
) r0 N6 m1 {: A1 E( k好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,3 U9 n6 G7 ]# w3 }; G7 `

/ l% r& {- d+ a6 w' i* e' q一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家," N4 i, i8 _5 e: ?/ m% U
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
% T" b- H+ i2 X( t- V3 T) E美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
# h# i$ r0 W( Y信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,1 A' |. X  H- s9 z  O1 W! C& h
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤, n3 r  W' `# Y; z) g
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm. ~1 H; A4 e9 Y2 J; S

1 c" o8 Z7 W' j/ R* ?. n[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............$ g6 s, p9 N! C, I% [5 x

" H. s& ?" c. h4 p信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ n! Q" ~, V1 I6 U4 S' H4 p
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
) X1 c% }0 C* H$ H, B) k# t  j.............信耶穌... ...
- d3 ^% C: x  i6 L* z6 R# u: CRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." S: p3 I4 u( a' O
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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