Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
. b0 M& C* q0 u; `7 U/ W4 q8 O; |我係一個連自己都吳信的人
8 N+ e2 y6 K. a: d又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 |6 C- e8 D# y. b2 H% H: n& q道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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1 [& s" |/ a& C1 _2 v$ lNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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6 Q) O' |' @7 f1 x- i) l5 gmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
1 C1 @7 H. U3 r; {. K) qcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
. P% u6 z. `5 x7 Z我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ y  Q3 n0 u4 ?
真的!!這不是反話
: y- ]7 k/ K/ }: M$ @因為我是情感比理性強的人
% t5 u4 C. P, R$ q( G0 v5 H2 |所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,# i' @9 i$ _2 O7 ?( o8 B) ]3 {: @" H; g
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
, p" |% `0 q: q. I; D0 F# ]在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; A' p4 D& ^# o+ G% v+ i" L* y: w
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:# n: h, i+ @- F( y: |3 _3 @9 W
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( E* G0 T9 H) [4 v. F! ZWhat a statement we have here?
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+ d8 {& W9 L  j1 J( I# oJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # C, D7 y9 L: Y0 L/ W3 ]1 E

9 x* C8 j: T# _9 cI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ }( N' V. t4 V& \4 \% y

3 V' F, v, N/ c! ]) i2 L2 ]Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
+ z! V9 D; n1 w7 R7 b. e0 A建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
: l& }7 I8 `! M9 JYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
) V2 A. G7 D- T: Z9 obut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......& D3 m8 p3 `6 b. J( K1 {
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# q% N, [, Z5 `# F只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
7 l# H) C9 Z& g5 P1 K; u用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,& v  f% B; r3 Z8 H$ @9 r: F, ?& n# }
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
% t8 o& f' b+ b' W6 h) L& F! p: {如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,! B. [) v" A+ x8 C0 R; l, w) l
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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# r( g; L. y, S& R, F: U9 H0 u- P# T3 w導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,9 z# e4 |) a& \0 M$ r6 d
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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6 K# ?8 G1 a8 Y8 ^" z6 t+ d一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( q" V( T' g" Z3 B3 c
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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1 b) F5 W! f0 F2 w吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! ^6 p5 T$ p" m* c9 h' b. o( P
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,1 n# K, C1 B+ m6 N7 c8 D+ R9 [
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ |, T0 S, P( B
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!1 Y/ I, @$ S: [) m, P
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; V+ A) w+ E3 X1 G

7 f. ~3 S6 s$ {8 z: j5 s我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!2 d3 x0 T: {- t) ~
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; |5 K2 n  R9 ~% R8 f. e' E$ |# j.............信耶穌... ...

( Y% q% \: H/ \: m& Q0 ^' A, bRegarding the resurrection....9 L2 d. z* G9 F4 b0 C, E

4 L6 q8 I) [$ V+ J- mActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.