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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 \- V" C* q" q
我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 M; F; O, _- c
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
! S& N) F4 i" o道理我知道好多只係做吳到
- s& |6 @- U, T  n' r呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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4 I% X7 ]9 x* Z. [- g/ F: _: BNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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( U$ A( @8 ]" Xmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* `7 Z6 D) }( D* S+ p% R
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
( R1 v$ L; K/ C! K' U' Z" ]: y6 mcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!# @( T1 Y3 E/ ]; O# I8 h9 l
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ r5 n3 Y  @/ |' h8 s$ {: c
真的!!這不是反話% n4 P+ H8 c6 R( ]1 E
因為我是情感比理性強的人7 m. }/ `# M# B- F: F( e* q( V5 u
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
1 Z, A5 K$ m  A6 h# g1 u4 S以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據," B/ z% O/ c( L4 P6 q' h6 z1 C0 }6 l9 x; |
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:1 v9 X7 M) T- J0 \- w* o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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, y$ B9 {5 h; s' E$ M8 pWhat a statement we have here?
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: I$ @( k) Q: J. N0 NJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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* x. D1 n$ X' r, cLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo( x1 _& e' Z0 b+ R
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:6 S% s% Z7 t/ y& D* Z6 q: W  X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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- y* H& a- z+ S# u! v' f0 o" {"不信也沒損失"
- }* i, U; c6 R, `' m' YYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....% K0 j5 O4 M, y" n0 @2 V
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......7 m. \0 o4 u. [. \1 c$ S
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it's starting because we have sins......
$ K! Z1 O+ D9 r' c9 Asatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 4 J" Q8 G: h2 l
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") Y9 p/ I  c5 d& f3 q
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,0 b" z8 d( e3 }6 i" r
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 B7 P6 `0 R3 H. U6 E4 D這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
4 _. @% @/ o. q" j如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; R3 y; G- z/ c) K6 ?* `  \$ P
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! A  C. k- q' u5 P0 V+ T. B0 W好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,% C+ T$ `' D' A$ Z: {* q* O2 F

) _6 y3 o6 a' @一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 x0 ?: p7 T5 F4 F
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
* d+ u4 I# `! r1 f4 _/ a美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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( R4 L' H7 D; b% E# B" Z! W宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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% a2 m  U# c' V' W吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
* v! q2 r' y4 L) t3 B& X. Z; C信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 F0 z; D. r5 B6 T0 N! t
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm5 {# A6 r2 k0 N7 z" E! K  k- t
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............' z" w; x% I8 s

2 [# Y9 G3 B- m2 K) M( |信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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6 x# H( K, @- U! L! {' ~- [不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 ?! k7 K$ z4 w; x.............信耶穌... ...
+ D( T- v  I6 [Regarding the resurrection....; M, @! D3 x$ n5 [- l
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- ]3 `7 U8 F2 Q, P: g, A+ g2 R8 ?
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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