Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  V' @" Y6 p2 x  N* ]我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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. R0 l5 q2 H+ @# ^$ t3 M& XNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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/ Y  ?3 l" p! M+ W  T4 [Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ g/ r( F- l; m: H1 j! ~- C7 f% @
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
, g$ o: E1 n1 K* l" {4 o% ^" g我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 C2 Z: C) f" \3 S$ t真的!!這不是反話# |/ z7 Y" u& x" G
因為我是情感比理性強的人: B# E7 m# T. D( \2 V% p
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 r5 U' ~1 o$ i7 M
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 ~6 K; \/ c9 S6 x
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
) \/ l+ b" x) T. [, h: d* }' |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?& C4 M5 C3 |: _; E& g0 h5 X

  j/ x3 L- D3 Q5 KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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5 N* o$ ]; U, ~5 I# J6 \I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! U. D5 O6 U. T0 R
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, P4 t4 f/ x6 R; X5 z

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  Q4 u# Y& |7 K! w' Z* E
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"8 M# t7 v2 R+ K! H# {. m4 {
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) q4 v6 f9 @( O5 M6 J9 f( R% S6 u
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......5 _9 w* N+ u- ^, e3 i  l1 U. p1 |% F! t
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it's starting because we have sins......+ I, H3 Q# M. W2 a8 X4 x5 w* W, V6 {
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ( C$ j- N) P. l/ t3 r. {  \) ]2 Y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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  s* V( n$ U& b2 K用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! M4 T% C+ G5 E  k3 B
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
( X( v6 s4 y' n& v8 M8 B如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 Y9 c( \" y) F( m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,+ u! F4 J2 }1 V
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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  M) `9 T8 O% W/ U1 x一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 i' @% h9 E! I& l* ~; [
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( j* r' v6 H' H2 l
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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* g' e" A( `2 g* U吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,9 H$ Q9 K2 ~0 ]& i, {% W
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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7 d" @, b% q1 k) D5 ]. v以下是其他人的見解,
& e% t$ z: P( M: C9 J* A/ \) ]看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!+ I( b7 J" |9 f: I( S  X* D* S

# l6 p" ^3 C8 \# ~( `& ~" l我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:) o/ C3 }% O$ v" g
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....! U' Y7 g; v7 k" B
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.