Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
2 X; H. q5 |- \* l  {" K我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! R" l* s# s: _( e# h4 S  Y又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* {5 Q$ q) h9 C) I0 F; l7 W
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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0 b2 u9 K( }2 Y4 M: x0 lNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- B- }" _9 q2 ?8 [( R3 T. {

4 @- [' p& Q4 l8 |$ _, XNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....& s" m: _  o/ s& @8 S
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' y1 W0 _# h! U% ~) p( g0 S
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
' I9 w! Q6 ]. g% `cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ ?3 T7 S* I  i$ E2 J
我只不過微小的基督徒...................  ?$ A4 f% _4 w7 p1 N7 N
真的!!這不是反話1 m' E9 U1 L% ~4 H7 m1 R+ o0 t, Q
因為我是情感比理性強的人4 ?; c- R0 P4 l" t' l/ r
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,3 ^8 x8 l9 s1 ~7 @2 O0 t
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,0 l( y' F9 Q6 C* X
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
1 O; f. C$ o, s  @& @2 t: J建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( l5 S; t& v8 G& j1 X& F4 kWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ) h) t' K5 G+ p  H# d1 _
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.( P. L" j5 R$ ]& m+ d8 F

7 w7 f& c& t' ?8 N7 O7 [& YLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo. i2 B# N# B! d% v3 @4 o

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
- X0 a6 n7 H' Q+ `2 I' B4 |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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" E4 y7 s' F6 M% v7 G6 T"不信也沒損失"( W# o4 M% k! u3 `1 f3 F, f
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....  R6 C+ j/ Z* u' t
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
7 f3 {- J6 T: ksatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ' I, Q, b$ N" ~, ~
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求". U3 N* l& ?. p' P
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 k( @8 v# W; |# k# K
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
8 T& W6 u2 @! b5 B這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全& K5 Z7 Y1 p" q9 ^
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, M. i: M+ U. E3 ~1 Z1 p2 E! O
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~8 x4 |7 M; o1 ^& r1 z! d

& l1 g0 L. x8 y0 D& f導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! |/ ^  ?) V! P- ^0 ?; t好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,; G! y' X4 M" J: k' N" @0 A: z. z! B
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法+ T, ^1 k% W% t  d  ?0 h: O
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...( c9 [9 f% O3 B. v3 Z( s, ~
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,; c: h( A; v/ }4 C
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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7 Q+ Y8 k" s  K* M+ a以下是其他人的見解,
1 m+ D' m+ D8 k  e1 k! o# ]% u看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤) S. N3 f6 t/ c4 g8 q+ R4 G
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm, `+ \9 Y9 k) |
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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4 K* B$ t7 {- E* X7 r9 t3 d  H# a! w同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:9 M1 V$ W; I7 _" L
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...., s$ B' J  @" a) r6 Y, n5 w, c
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 f, `/ k) ^- e5 `1 x; d

0 c" D* R4 U9 TYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.