Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ d$ w2 ]* B6 o5 l* Z+ s我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ `2 [8 G, E7 a- ~! `2 S1 M1 @
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢, j' G) k, q, m) C' \! O4 |) L
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
) P; D, y; W* K$ h呢D就係做人的悲哀

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1 U, b, J6 t9 N2 E3 b& Q- |/ tNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( b+ l% ], E% v  o; i. [% g
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....2 y# X& V# }4 W9 z" t( l) [

/ i8 e( t* ^7 Qstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  [( A  T; S5 h" m. I9 \3 _
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
- r# I+ ~6 ?& j8 p我只不過微小的基督徒...................
1 M7 U- g" K- P- x: }真的!!這不是反話
$ ]  |" `# C' b因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ t$ O  r: l: N7 Q' Y2 q
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# H5 L: f$ ]2 e/ E9 ?7 K
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& a# l( a3 n) N6 a
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?  L/ Y+ Y& P4 B. j) L; z  n
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 2 d2 ]! T2 \6 F( Z5 `" q

4 @! T' Y* R; w$ R' Q3 j1 ^I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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( L& C8 P4 `! f: |6 X6 E[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 A+ e. N( {3 [. }建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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5 \& |' F7 U' u6 Y4 |3 R"不信也沒損失"
( }) N# X" _' R1 eYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" k- H# j9 n; E9 i. I2 x. S  rbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins....... M8 J& y* Q1 j/ i7 u
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
* f. B) O- f. \' k5 a4 [3 Lour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
( v! V- z+ v! j' o, ]) h; h/ y2 @只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
% ]2 V9 L! H: ^' V4 U2 U用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! V) x5 N& V, [# h& @, [
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全1 y% s6 w& @6 r
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& D; b  g& G: g9 j+ C$ D( M, }/ @
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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# b$ R4 V% T5 s- ]6 ?; K+ T7 A導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,0 X/ F2 @9 Q8 P
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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- ~: `( n, n6 b7 F一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
3 x/ P/ |: ?) }0 [改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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( ^% C% g0 A0 _' l+ Z; j吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, i! s7 n4 j; b, ~信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干6 r( O2 q: T! U! m  U

' V( r+ w, Q, g; s: w以下是其他人的見解,
, J- B, W  T  Q9 e看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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7 q5 p) B, N9 j% v( z8 S[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ I5 p/ k+ E: t4 U) l, z$ T

' e' G9 V) H/ d, Q5 `信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!, c: R7 W* O3 J- s/ K/ D, S# ?

1 I8 j7 z2 N5 A# [- m! p不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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4 Z2 I' p5 a4 }8 R' V% r- U我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:3 [1 e# D0 `4 ?6 F& W' y' |
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....; V. c1 Q9 S( V0 l# `

6 C+ q# [$ g5 _2 U& w# t: ?: EActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....2 ~) k5 T+ ~+ T4 @

, b5 Q: q# P7 M$ k0 e9 vYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.