Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
! |5 K" R- l5 e8 K) ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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' M7 `( ?$ d6 N, A0 l" `% [4 i5 iNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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$ A$ j3 q  c4 E0 |$ aNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 q7 g+ R1 W- s, s, M0 Z/ `

( ?; V% h5 y) r# z6 p9 _7 W% G6 Amr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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0 ?/ j4 M+ E) @  j9 @8 F" Tstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- n2 l+ a) n! }% [
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!  B2 V/ G; C1 P4 _
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
9 j) R+ |/ d9 }! [: s: g" r- I真的!!這不是反話
. D' O- @3 o0 [: Q因為我是情感比理性強的人1 k' {' U6 e7 [
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,( k. j8 O) {- {- ]0 n
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! W( t3 \/ p3 _1 N
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:0 T4 T- y% L; o7 s$ {& G, \5 B4 R
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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! |4 M! h. L# X: [# b' GI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo% D+ }* `9 ?  N5 I5 _. c! M

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"* T7 M" L! |, F- u
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....3 D' M+ {8 w- V3 v0 p
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
- j0 L/ w* v& ?5 ^; e! psatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
1 {( x: t5 ~4 c, V1 }& v3 i0 Eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
3 s2 v/ z. {+ ?3 J/ [只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 \1 g+ P& o  N3 w' e( l7 D8 b
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 g! ^( D7 i' u這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全8 E* E7 Z7 j1 [0 M
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; [3 \( h# |; p& G: r
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
+ ]9 o% V2 h: M; P# i好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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; Y  r+ ]% u; ]% d美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...) C4 J' V; q2 N( L5 q/ v/ s
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具# n+ q; o2 k# e% N3 n# R: R7 w

! x/ m9 g4 j5 ^6 L# S) T吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,; R/ t/ n% `  N$ w; n# ]
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
" h7 X% n3 e" o; N2 h  r看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤, Y% N2 e) ^  F- q- M9 k1 |
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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: z: @1 z9 K. a5 d3 q6 ?信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!, L# }6 [' T! D0 g$ I, t

0 d; T/ ]9 w* t3 L* ?不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!# f, N8 F& s8 v' Q& V7 \

4 a; s, g/ s8 \. Z8 R3 M" v4 {/ k我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
/ n* _! u1 F, {$ ~' n# ].............信耶穌... ...

! g$ H9 S, @- Z# m; X1 ^Regarding the resurrection....
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% O2 B+ c2 d5 O/ v5 SActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...., P0 e$ _* q+ J" D  D9 d
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.