Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:( L/ \" F3 |  \1 C8 U
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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' H" ^0 T0 ^9 }/ R& e) d+ T6 ?Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!# Y8 }2 L1 c8 ~& w- F( o

0 }  S! J* Y: }) qNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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+ }  E8 _5 o3 emr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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* Q% m6 w" c! hstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
1 [/ b+ M. Z7 X! h; r) ?: [5 B8 fcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ p! S" f5 q0 @
我只不過微小的基督徒.................... y; Q" P7 V3 B! ~9 d
真的!!這不是反話3 ]8 o# T0 }; {4 x
因為我是情感比理性強的人' F% B0 ?4 {) z( h0 g% }
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
# W( F3 J8 u0 x% K以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
8 m4 [$ h6 u5 @4 W/ }) A! C在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著..." ^! r2 q+ V# |5 B* v
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
0 r; S+ F: M7 L* l" J建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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5 B& a& E5 K% j5 S/ e  x, x% uJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? & a% J6 r9 ]" z) q9 \& M6 x
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! q9 u5 a( o" I

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:* K$ M" ^+ p: P; R3 G
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"' Q6 ?  j- v; q# S! E3 Q! H9 v& t
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....+ O9 N0 S; B( m; d5 b. m; s$ p
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
! j+ O/ C( j6 C: S/ u8 ]只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,; N% Q( ~& \" Q! X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
4 I+ b( e, z1 C) x  m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,9 R3 ?6 [1 |( P% u% ]& a
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,( ]: x+ R$ `6 c/ D  m+ p. Y
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 g3 w9 H7 y$ R$ G. v* i: X# O6 [
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............: [1 N5 _5 O; f2 o6 \
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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0 K0 |. v5 W- _5 o不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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9 `1 z/ ~. Q$ v! {1 N8 `我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!3 w' o) E9 I! C  I* y
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
$ i- X' W% `% D5 H.............信耶穌... ...

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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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: l( g4 C* Z0 G$ L, u  MYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.