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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
. m, ], E2 S2 e- u5 _1 c- ~我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! D) E) r9 r2 [, R, S8 a又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
, S; X$ {' k8 f4 X) J9 e; O道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 I8 l+ a( A& ?" T( g1 N) x
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& B8 x7 J0 H7 {5 w4 U  t- |

/ U2 N' u* K. W* m+ B/ GNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....; a( @2 A! N+ Q
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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$ l/ E5 D- x( F( Astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
+ e3 h, t5 J& A7 T. k8 b+ Ccheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!3 \/ x5 _) D3 q+ ~4 Z' H; I9 l
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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8 c5 R" E( t2 S因為我是情感比理性強的人* ~/ _0 R; R. e7 b
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,) d/ h* `9 T/ Z" P7 ]
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% {) e( h9 g6 Z' g: @& U* O5 C% ^# `在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...0 r3 _: K: z" c8 l' n
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
# z5 C& o" e" U$ b* o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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* B" m9 Y5 `# h4 n  |  \Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # n. s! Q" f* D, v: \! F/ i
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.* I4 v6 t1 O* M& V3 s5 o. h
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 x/ R" W. M$ [/ i

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  x# p; M$ I& y( @8 D[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:9 O; O6 j; o# X+ n
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
5 e7 x0 ]% v7 H% iYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ Q8 c! i" z& \/ u1 d6 H% A) ybut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......& d" y. ]6 i7 u7 J8 V% B

( g2 z3 L% [2 @& xit's starting because we have sins......
+ G# w' J( C( I9 q  _& |satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
- n' |" G- E9 i4 J+ Tour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
- X1 E6 u4 e4 h2 }只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
5 N# S3 p$ m4 [( ]# I! P用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
/ P$ Q* I; Q! b  x  W( x' g/ E* C" H這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: L( s" v8 E) X/ F5 ~: l) G
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
) [/ V# P; u& z' B8 H; z而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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# K" H, u+ `0 J9 U+ e. d導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,- [2 l4 n' J% L/ F6 w
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,; `1 t& t. |. ]# R! Z

# b! x$ D) ?6 i: h" g$ d一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
! L& s- D* |$ \改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法- t5 V$ d4 [; X; P: _
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,8 X" y+ M  g0 s) B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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+ G; D& n! W0 k6 B) F) [5 i7 a, K以下是其他人的見解,
( A% z' _# G" W. ?. n8 f看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤6 y- A0 c6 D. X- W  n: [9 }
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5 `  x, a0 E) F( y[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!, C" E( Q' K4 c& U9 l- `' x

* v) U* }) }4 a不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 N+ c, k4 c( ?: ]8 R! _
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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8 Z6 _: T$ O4 M" s! O同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:. b6 L% a$ V& {* ]9 y3 [- {. D
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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3 q! n# i+ r5 b, pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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