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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:3 V6 d! Q2 Z1 B, b4 o
我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 p2 l/ M6 b$ b
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 `: E* j4 h% @0 F% N2 ?
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!2 ~! s$ _6 I; D8 x5 S% y' x
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....: M) t5 \4 T' q
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  C2 {. G3 m: R  l- r9 r) Q
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!9 U- J3 O. p3 [* i9 Z5 `
我只不過微小的基督徒...................1 ]4 I/ @+ S4 Y6 M' ~6 X, |' e, k# e
真的!!這不是反話' J) o0 {2 X( U9 l, `% i  d# w
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
# z4 x. P$ G  y. H以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 ^/ ], n/ u$ X9 _9 N  l( x/ Q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.... J0 Y, I% [& a" H* R" _) T. r
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
1 X" v# ~' C; q: G  k建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 Y. i) h, a7 {What a statement we have here?2 b+ `/ ^" l) M* I3 h
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? . U0 b$ ?5 X1 i
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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8 ]  u# N& P6 O6 rLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
& W- V) }, e* j- m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
+ I! F: I% [6 K6 |% j) gYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....( y% \; K7 F; W* @: F8 j
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......# S! k4 v4 d, C0 h9 j& p0 M
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 2 f- l; T& |$ w. Z
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
1 G4 |% W4 r& y$ h只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. K1 q2 X: P( ?8 ?" x! a8 A
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 O7 [7 ^2 g7 O" g! V; V; T
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
! f/ I- g- x  Z  ]如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
+ F# P- \/ D( T& |$ o/ w: f' ^3 I而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~/ j* \. V% g$ ^& P
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,# y: f9 l% C! n( O9 Y: V# ^
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,' {: v' B% C# U

8 u; ]9 H4 h# w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 L6 D2 ^; ?; p5 k9 m3 B7 c6 H) S
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
6 Z9 }+ n+ A1 o$ [美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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/ q! D5 p) v* B2 a0 o宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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$ c4 Q3 P0 \9 P" J' T吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,3 d3 T9 D0 l0 B5 n0 n5 S8 Q; T! R
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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1 h" R& X. U3 H# o  ]以下是其他人的見解,
7 u/ V* D2 W7 q% x0 y看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤% D" S  }+ ^8 B! |  [
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm; _, P6 I' a5 x1 u# y6 P& C

4 N, n/ z# s9 M9 o* N' l" ?6 h[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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, U! J7 U; l6 t1 q不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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( G9 t8 _1 f7 o- b同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 U2 x* n5 R. e, H
.............信耶穌... ...
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... D$ U, b! ~, P$ ~2 ^

7 c7 s7 ]. j1 n( AYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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