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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
- p2 z2 j! d( H, f+ R' u我係一個連自己都吳信的人' }$ N  i% y& i7 p! d& U7 v
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢2 Y4 O5 T4 |; O! `3 u' K
道理我知道好多只係做吳到/ R  P8 P3 S$ }1 T  d3 V* e
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....; k8 n5 I* O0 W8 c

) S* x( ]4 [9 |' d" _mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....1 X& ?- n# g$ f8 J
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....." r2 w% ?/ o* M" ?+ x: s4 i( ?- ^
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
' i' O  L. W& x( ]* |7 m! m, I我只不過微小的基督徒...................9 b2 K! Y7 _+ L, }0 s# o3 o1 s
真的!!這不是反話! A9 s+ q+ H* s# l! W' Y+ {0 G
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( n5 m8 f4 w0 i: E以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 j. ~* [" i+ v! {
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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/ S! ?7 M2 a: k; N6 y. t0 B, W$ U1 R# [Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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6 c1 j8 u3 i$ I% S4 e7 a& ALooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- z. k' j/ W" D
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ `; N5 Y7 k- S' ~8 }2 P+ f建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." K5 D) U" u7 n  M" l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# r' s% p8 {/ D! m

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satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ! t( x/ X6 ~- V
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
$ O" _8 C. |+ C只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: R/ ]/ _% C0 L1 Z; t: l
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
. d( v# [7 o- A/ i. R+ W; I3 U這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全6 Y1 g0 F% W: P% @3 ^7 ^
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- x- t( g( Y6 G- b
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
# y4 w! O) g- v$ J好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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9 k) ^! I3 Y4 w% z, e4 R+ ^* _一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, ?2 [' Q" z) l8 N$ P9 ?
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
/ B. q8 {0 i- l; }; x* _6 v3 q: ]美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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5 _5 F( m; E( N/ @9 q8 U9 n宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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) t/ ~) e, `) t9 M7 w# h* `2 _) A吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 e3 Y, e$ E- W( N7 m. T4 \信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干" X1 k& o1 `# F- o0 I" G1 T
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以下是其他人的見解,8 c* y  c: c3 @# A' {8 [) n
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............/ o" g9 V8 _* k5 R7 j$ \+ F

7 j5 p3 d' V$ ?  o6 `信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!) Y: l) g5 p+ M$ \* M+ [! b
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
- }: K2 v+ [& A.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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) Z( t) J$ B# h' KYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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