Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
3 M( _. `3 w. C我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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4 p7 f$ x2 x; e) z2 T4 N- V$ \; a道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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# p9 D: z  D' h0 a$ tNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- c  O; e: K. E7 H0 t! a7 x
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....+ k/ Y9 K* P7 a, f

+ C4 N8 y. \7 V. q& h; O% \struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
7 r8 {+ T3 q  v* \cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ }9 x+ Q6 J5 G, I3 L1 W3 x) V! z. A
我只不過微小的基督徒...................# m9 V% [" q4 `2 R3 @3 ?2 e: \
真的!!這不是反話5 G8 A+ |  ]2 e  y2 T
因為我是情感比理性強的人- n1 c. w' P/ p2 v6 u
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...6 c7 }( m; ?: x, W1 F
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 ?9 N" X8 x" U* ]" P+ m: Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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7 N7 y6 h. _& bWhat a statement we have here?. C: g/ u( d% y9 B
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% o4 z7 }/ \+ D4 o+ e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"8 t& t/ \: g7 G5 N8 r! v* V6 s8 K- I
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
4 Q# x$ j7 k0 [9 ibut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......6 L, |9 W  |6 y/ P+ D/ S

1 J' J2 b; c# e5 v2 Uit's starting because we have sins......* t2 A& {, ]5 W3 F# p
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  M9 Y2 o5 G' d
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全4 n; T4 v8 Y+ C! t, E$ R1 ^3 ^7 b
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦," l: u2 Z' C8 @
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,. l( ^) G  D6 S$ {( I
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,5 r! x& Z; k! L
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  h/ o1 T3 S  k3 D
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...2 M$ h6 X# q& g/ `+ W

4 r( c0 l6 d5 ~5 q宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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! t" L- F! t5 S$ O* Y7 h2 n" H吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
8 m  _3 Y5 u* O% |: ?信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,0 _  J. v) e4 p' k) K  |$ F
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ Y' E6 N: ]3 Q1 g
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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# o1 J1 U7 B- K! f- e# wRegarding the resurrection...., M7 ^  V/ F5 _4 K, T9 a' U. Y0 S

- x' |) K; N! d% r& L6 i& zActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....- a3 s3 t+ _" f0 M4 E' a: X1 Y
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.