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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
! F2 P* g$ T3 t; E8 o- g* Z4 F我係一個連自己都吳信的人
( E& m4 p. I; m) ?) ~3 P又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
2 h0 K( M2 F1 X8 H1 f道理我知道好多只係做吳到
& j8 {6 O0 [: K5 Z, O呢D就係做人的悲哀
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' U6 p3 z* ^4 C% }" B/ B7 hNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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! c! D' E2 @$ kNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....* h3 l7 H( F) z& G0 ]8 i& q# h5 O

3 I; K! |# e8 r) Z9 {mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  k; o4 b! d# x$ X1 g2 mcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!- ?# p& g) k5 r" A8 e
我只不過微小的基督徒.................... r( j4 o- f6 U5 V7 G' C; h5 {1 M
真的!!這不是反話1 Y, D3 P3 E# k; q, o5 @7 X7 ?
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 ]. H/ r1 b( x. @6 D9 b! z以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 R: @$ I9 H& _' _' C# E
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:+ \. V- F( E7 W" ^9 Q0 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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2 M8 e0 q1 [8 {7 G0 oWhat a statement we have here?
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! q4 Q8 @8 U& ^2 o7 LJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? + h* L" K& l! \1 D( I' z2 F

3 N; {+ [5 P/ e; UI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.% X8 x. A7 |1 z# A/ o4 Y/ k
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 Z9 l6 k- [  {  _3 I& x- \
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* a0 N+ y& S- E  ~1 I2 j  s, R6 A[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:5 w2 g1 Y5 z! T. q) l- v2 X3 ^
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"- R, ?% y& n7 `
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ B9 Z; T! p7 `& }6 y9 }( O' i3 Wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......$ {6 j' `; X+ H! Z# k

  @; M) t2 X* ]2 L, nit's starting because we have sins......& f7 g8 z& y' g
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 8 H% r$ N9 A3 {1 D
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) |; N9 _! E4 S只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,  J, I: n! w9 u! V, ]4 W
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,' u$ w* Z$ _5 \& R: n
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全* c& S0 u( P: v: |# x* N8 \+ D& J
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 e; k$ m, R9 ~3 G8 S
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 A  }4 s' q$ j9 R1 h' ?! z9 q

' d; q8 u7 u! d, X) W; R導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: @2 b2 K: U9 j: @7 R5 @8 v# i
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,- C+ X+ f* z# X# c) f
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,  o5 p' T, U# y" T+ d* {9 D
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干: [  c. k4 I4 z9 X6 w+ D5 D: B1 N
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以下是其他人的見解,
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+ _0 I( ~- d& M# I+ B# g7 b% ehttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm, u0 B; V; P( Q  _7 c/ }
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............2 J( G+ j" M& ?8 i8 n" K
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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1 w0 Y) r  O: r& O9 Y6 p4 z我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! E* g/ C/ t; r. Q3 p
.............信耶穌... ...
4 I; g5 R2 j+ g" G. V2 r4 ?Regarding the resurrection..../ d- A& _6 t" U
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....  ^. `+ B. E5 D; Q# A3 }8 o

! Y9 s" L: M" P* s/ Z! l( J0 gYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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