Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 [& @4 s; U% d5 a. C+ x/ b
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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& E# K% }& V" W& l' V& X: Y- V道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 o0 M, ?% H+ b% J7 A, ]! m
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!0 Z7 c: w1 s* V" ~) }+ h1 i
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....( g3 I0 D8 }0 x/ N! J) S! E
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....; P0 B# t4 {7 w+ e6 `
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
8 T1 e6 ^4 I0 C5 g9 |cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!6 k) s9 H8 j! R* Q
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." K3 O/ W0 ^" @7 k* P  J
真的!!這不是反話8 L9 m6 E; _& M5 F+ [* Q
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,+ _0 `! V# h1 p0 u! R! Y# }
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# k7 N' l. ~( c7 D0 b/ `. z  c
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! e! w% w7 P9 p$ i9 L1 u& x
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
  H8 T5 a7 g* T0 {' ?建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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! J+ C0 N5 u, _7 {8 qWhat a statement we have here?  [+ u, z5 o3 B: u0 O% ~7 [

0 F# L: W  m. F8 Z, ?Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? - i3 A' W6 _: L: P1 @
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 r& g2 R6 t1 ?, y# n
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:8 h! k9 W/ O2 a0 V' [% e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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9 B1 @6 d! k/ D! w" p. n/ W' Z"不信也沒損失"% Z; }& i& V: n
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." k# y6 \3 H; y1 K; ]/ a: @
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......: `$ X% }5 E3 E: O
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,. x9 l) ]8 L" z
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ X" x) E) X. j" @
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 ]  T- z# b6 \! _, g$ X
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
9 O8 g. a8 [* y" T  s. A' A好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( \. n& s: ?8 M: F9 Y
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..." s) l( b# y# q$ w: _  C
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,1 C" q- q( E) k" Z
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤# |' D3 K$ a$ @, E: `* W. ]" x
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm- H# T) G: R5 X

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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............( Z. A6 n# u( E8 z# m! \
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!7 Q* Q. {! g; K$ Z$ L

; |2 G2 J0 {6 K# m9 N1 @不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
3 r$ @! [+ ~* X: W+ X.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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- c. i2 ?1 A& R) j6 wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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" u& [% i: _4 a9 C! NYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.