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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:. P; T. j, |/ O: ~* Z
我係一個連自己都吳信的人, v2 F8 S* H: e# Z4 M
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
* K( w* E/ K' B$ j+ h道理我知道好多只係做吳到
  A3 q; l; c; {+ |- |9 \" Z2 D3 m呢D就係做人的悲哀
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( `4 o4 `, d  Q2 PNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" U4 }- ~6 w9 i; D; B8 m. T" Z

1 G( J& w/ P7 S4 c. c3 Q- aNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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' ?0 a& x8 ]5 H% t0 Tmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....6 k% o6 d- Q" l; D- A6 i

. L( |6 K$ f8 r; ^; e0 |6 Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....: ?$ w/ q! [7 y! _, x. n3 o
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
2 E7 _) P" T7 L5 |6 w6 @我只不過微小的基督徒..................." F4 |- O& k' X& v: o
真的!!這不是反話
, E# e" I9 m* J6 A( L因為我是情感比理性強的人
8 ?' g6 l, j) S' H所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
- u& P0 V: Z4 M8 ^6 k2 d, f以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
; M! j- C& n- K& w在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
' m, F# O) l/ K4 b2 M建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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# G7 Q$ a  S! C$ u1 NWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? % P; |6 q$ M- J/ T  r/ ^; {& Q
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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, Q2 c8 ]8 ^: iLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* f7 O- @* e( @# d' w; ~$ p8 {+ g7 e建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"+ ^5 d6 S' {& M8 K4 ?, p! y/ Z: Z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....% h& U/ s- F  }0 k0 \2 Z! Y9 j2 |
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......* z# v- L0 }/ A
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it's starting because we have sins......
- h4 _( R" H" g2 c4 D4 d+ [: xsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
5 E, v+ J) y4 F+ h3 Eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
9 k/ h; @7 f7 e5 ]4 \/ R只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
$ Q7 U9 u, Z4 m) x用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
2 M9 i0 d& \7 h$ Y$ d0 `' E: i3 R這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全0 V* t4 s# O  x$ d" B8 k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,3 s6 s- e0 a6 t! }
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~! E4 f$ T' Z2 P1 }, F& Y9 n. g1 R7 F
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 n# i( p3 I0 @& e) S( ?8 P5 @
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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- g9 r" [$ U3 g/ F* P  t* l一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
& ^+ Q8 e5 _! J/ ^8 h改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法$ l$ J+ b# R% |1 ]# I
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...; V  }4 }) y6 S+ G5 P/ P

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
1 o, M' I& t& Z, b; G7 g2 A1 u信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干3 g! k4 i4 E8 n; o' T8 T

. r8 z. _# W: ~! F. ^) o以下是其他人的見解,: n* N% u7 z* g5 C0 s! E& c  i
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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6 x2 x0 _" j, P0 A: D1 ^  u[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............8 ^) L) x, |4 B0 A4 u
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!" I2 l: U* e7 }; _1 }* W1 m

# j9 ]( e$ o5 E. B我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, @& k9 Y6 X! v- I9 t3 @
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:7 w& t! r$ D2 T/ V
.............信耶穌... ...
8 O1 ?9 U1 [9 w: Z( R$ YRegarding the resurrection....* X/ o9 \2 f# I  k' U9 T8 |& m" V
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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+ Z4 c" ?, f/ J! PYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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