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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  |  ^0 ]: [! E: p我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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) A0 {/ P4 b- ^1 ?道理我知道好多只係做吳到) K$ v) [! \! [
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  M4 Y& y, I" t# ?, b/ U" Tcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!5 {8 H! j# b" }, d5 D
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人2 o* C) {2 I* L( t" L4 n4 r# y
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 L0 h- n3 _, _
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,8 Y; Y+ |, B/ K% W6 g; ~
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:5 w: V4 C  R5 g& j, d
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?/ J! d& M! D6 b. t
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.0 d: I% k- V& ^! C6 K" c
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; W  U& v1 v6 N0 Q0 S5 [; N( q
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" x( E* E4 r' E6 _7 u, V* O( f[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:! N1 E4 A) q6 W- B. d5 f2 r, s2 M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"7 e  R) U7 Q. `6 t
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 p# n7 W3 J# g3 x2 c
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......2 W; n( w2 R# Q- b9 p% z# P
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( V9 |# Y0 j1 }our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求". B. g* v7 a# f1 G
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
) [5 b+ A! L2 r用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# O) P! j' y6 O$ b" U# \這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
8 }) z$ c8 D4 u; R如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,' m- ~/ _! y: V. U1 q! m- a  K
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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/ T- K6 D" o9 g1 N2 ?$ C! g# Q導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,+ A( g; h' _9 N7 i
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,/ x% a. [: K& V* h( d6 }# }
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
1 ?. `: _+ Y8 q2 l5 L8 p4 S改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具8 m2 }. [% R" [1 c# p7 t
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了," g# v) M  D. R9 ^+ l
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干& W$ [$ T+ w; R1 _$ I; t5 I
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm3 @1 C( Z* v6 [/ g, F) n. q

! e& N/ p* r$ r[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............' J+ R9 T- E2 P6 [9 R

% D$ b0 t1 t1 b' J" ^信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!6 C$ v4 \$ y; s9 ]/ s  V
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!. g' P& C! B) N; _: v- e: O
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!( a% K7 x# e# o8 v! c

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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:) i# G7 A3 H4 d, x$ d
.............信耶穌... ...
) u  B4 _! v# }- M/ tRegarding the resurrection....% X5 g  @, _. O3 K' [9 U+ v1 j
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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  `- z0 ~, U# s2 I+ L: A+ Y9 P. c  }You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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