Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 u6 Q+ H2 ^( H我係一個連自己都吳信的人, u+ m+ z" l( B' w% Z  {) B
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢, H2 C: m. E& p5 `7 [
道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 b+ ~: d! W" E' f
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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, l( Z8 N* x- b7 F7 O4 o- \3 RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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: j6 T, `+ S- s" FNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 j! E+ `# C* ?7 Y6 {
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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4 u2 O. o/ F# @2 Fstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....- s8 g0 i* J3 y3 B( X% f
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
3 s4 A6 v7 U4 s2 I2 d0 M1 i我只不過微小的基督徒...................
: J; b$ p. P7 S0 x真的!!這不是反話
) i" E' v, S; c0 b因為我是情感比理性強的人  ]; h7 m! e, g8 [: j* H
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 ]) g1 w2 m+ q& w以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,6 ]+ c! f7 \1 d5 ]0 l
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.... z% J2 I) |% G( G
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" n/ G  c6 N) V$ [( T
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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/ ^: |) u$ z4 Z5 C( NWhat a statement we have here?" e' D) {$ s' X

, r& \" f9 J& r6 ~. f2 \7 p" sJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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4 _& G/ |5 M5 z7 Q' J! G! k: I: }I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo5 G  G( q( Y& R" u$ }! J7 g/ z

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 L$ g4 M: t# m) O9 Q3 l; S建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
( a/ ~3 Y- r3 i" ~, u8 T) D5 IYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
3 A0 c) R8 J( b# U  \) u3 mbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......2 H! H( t5 h( t7 d. H" Z: s! n: d& z
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it's starting because we have sins......" E) S2 M8 ]6 ]# b% g8 p) N3 `
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us & w2 q% W0 X2 S+ c- a1 g
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
4 @& R% u  S/ |( C! t* w2 ?只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
9 v) M0 r1 C; ~2 r% H- t. B. W用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( K  A1 ], ~+ t" j! {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全- x* f9 N- k; o1 j
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' h+ M% x% Q! ~) B' Q6 r" m而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~8 m- P/ n+ d3 ~; Z0 H0 q: ]# C

! W" }4 Z1 Q% a; c導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 ~- r: y9 Q9 H
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
/ d7 M1 e- n8 y" d- Z0 r+ W  ^改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
4 M* K( ~1 W- Y! r, d1 w美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...; W4 `) \4 y3 Z

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' B/ I3 Y! K* J吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( P" d7 v( w1 Y4 z0 N信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
6 c( l! `2 I3 b  n5 b看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤4 t* C7 {# q, q! }0 Q9 f0 o7 A" O
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............  a, O, N- f4 B- b

6 F% m/ c0 `5 o信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!9 Z) T+ C/ M; o+ ?0 W
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!# x+ V; i2 C, n; ^: k

5 T: C5 z4 W2 Z; A+ _同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 a& L* `7 S! L. ]7 }2 d0 a5 q( i.............信耶穌... ...

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2 R5 {- ], O8 g' q( DActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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4 m8 ?1 a' i7 _/ F* V2 P) p5 [! V3 Q& NYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.