Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:0 u+ c/ N: M7 q" ~
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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1 c5 d& b. ?3 k5 cNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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% g, A  S7 `6 U6 ?8 R7 zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* e# f  d# I. X6 `

" u+ h6 X6 C, u* }- F; q- Q: k+ B- ^struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 N+ v* @  }( n8 S% V
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!$ t' q) D% l+ P: N' I- o
我只不過微小的基督徒...................6 g; f4 A0 U: y: R: Q/ q/ m( I
真的!!這不是反話& `! O/ O- V9 r
因為我是情感比理性強的人9 `. v+ Q* ?; r; y/ ]4 y
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ G6 r' C2 d6 s
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
" @2 E. F& Q1 u/ H; E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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2 Y( k  ?( {0 E5 G4 p( a1 U) Y7 r6 k/ SWhat a statement we have here?% \' x) `+ V6 A. f
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.! V- e& h$ t7 V3 \6 e* I+ i

$ H) c- Y3 a2 [# _8 A9 i4 t( XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:/ n& s) n- I( P/ o) [
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  F! e! K. Y+ X/ N"不信也沒損失"+ a6 q) M1 C& N- _- L: h* P
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
: z3 \# ^" u3 l% _8 T9 F( X& _4 ^$ Sbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 l  Z0 e3 d1 i, A8 N% b" G3 d
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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9 N. z2 A5 z# V+ d0 e用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,7 l- T. H6 E' s, b9 V" X! p
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全+ O! y$ ]" a4 a8 W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,8 r- L. d  H5 `3 C' Y% U
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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) D) k; c! v+ K3 ^3 h2 w導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% B) r# R+ s# x+ m
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家," L! B& k4 k& ^" g& E
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法& P; U/ @" P- [1 i8 q4 y* ?' m
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...! d! {  {4 H' e1 j, P

2 g; q" N. h5 I" |! z宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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2 ?# ?" k/ L5 _0 i. p) |吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
0 K6 t0 l" o: _  J信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............/ n) p' K9 Y6 c" k2 S5 u

  ~$ f  N! i, |- L! Q  q% H" f信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!6 i; p0 W: J8 C; ?- [3 ^8 y3 ^9 o

+ ^, [5 n: l, c* b0 Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!. i# o2 F5 \' E1 w$ K

5 l8 i4 i) S& X3 d. `( v5 N我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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; M( i5 U$ J. [9 \同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% c& V$ _0 Z9 e+ e4 c! r3 P
.............信耶穌... ...

" y4 [2 r' \5 M0 y- v; p+ ERegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 K9 |5 A1 m* q% H+ aYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.