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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
( ^% L- f" c* p我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 }# I1 ~1 ?/ }4 F; Q
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢- F( m( K' a/ V* V
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
$ a) G3 S. _( g- F# [呢D就係做人的悲哀
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' q' j% S8 I0 _* q' G) y8 TNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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2 h1 b: S9 O  k0 O; A! sNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....9 h, r; d  u- p) D; N8 a1 ^
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
( e/ Z' E1 [5 O2 T& U0 Z我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人% N+ _0 E+ R. @1 G% C5 z+ G
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
1 ?: U0 f5 A' b( X6 q& k# J以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,, p) |; N  Q, Z  E1 \
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  Q# ~: U. u, p
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 ^, r* s! N. z3 lWhat a statement we have here?: m  m- R% t! e/ G  N& w0 s

9 _1 Q: ]# F' P( _/ @: O8 \: H. x- uJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.* S) Y5 s& a+ A8 @  h$ O

8 |6 M- W* S* m' y" |, NLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo, m! a- H$ {1 e/ b, {! q2 p5 d

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
, \, E" b  I/ p  \: o/ R$ E& ]建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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6 K: l" g$ c3 n( z% j* \/ c"不信也沒損失"
* n7 ^8 s& d% J! ?Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....1 x4 P5 p$ B6 U6 e. O
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......5 c3 N8 K/ F3 m) u* e
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 n! ?7 h$ o8 o+ ?# E% ~7 Pour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"; b# U: Y9 R' u! Y* y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
7 E& w+ O0 l7 C) F用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
6 m7 N5 g1 y) e( r這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 W' j$ L1 `; _2 b1 n( L/ O5 T0 y7 I如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' F" c8 V1 }0 p+ L* L. f& R2 X而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~- P) |! W6 h  z' D0 H$ h9 L
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
  C) L. X% v+ [# S好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,2 F6 B0 C0 c1 [2 r

: I0 |0 r8 Y4 x2 i! O+ _6 y一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家," ~+ P8 Q1 h8 x
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
/ a. y  C$ ~0 F! T( x美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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6 }  V9 K1 B6 W1 C# I宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,; o! Q$ b! _3 p: `# P
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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) J: Y& N, q% e以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ J/ c8 K) b% T' R. `* Y# @! y# [

4 S6 C5 P. x  {- K/ \% b% {信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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: `$ {! ?+ a7 g不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!: N) U5 e/ y$ [4 w
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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* T7 @( @5 c. _! _/ K. x% X同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:' L$ z7 I6 J- J0 C* {8 `
.............信耶穌... ...
/ C0 ~- d8 c) `7 Q! s+ B0 lRegarding the resurrection...." J$ ^1 O( d; p/ k) V. w

" N5 U6 M7 |) n* a( @8 i* cActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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