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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
# U( S( B1 x# N/ ^; J- P& F我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 P% L7 k) d& _
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 h" w7 ^4 A3 b: C6 x1 |9 \
道理我知道好多只係做吳到4 L7 \% r( P: \2 \( F
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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! |$ i  L1 [- H0 VNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!8 u) z# `  ~, N& f- R
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....5 \. x$ P7 Q5 i/ e. T

9 O; ?2 Q6 v* h) vmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....- h$ W& ]8 d% C2 O& G+ H' J% o
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....." E. z+ |4 I. m
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
0 ~% ^. B9 a) t8 K8 p( `# M' E我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人# C2 C2 C  z+ ^( l: U% q
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,5 W- G3 e6 y( j
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! t4 n5 `# z  M! G3 T% ^  ?7 N
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" H7 i6 o) J: V& I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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) u/ R9 F$ y9 L$ w5 wWhat a statement we have here?: ^2 q% u4 ]- W
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 2 m3 C( x9 c' s

" K' L" k& S. n% VI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread./ B9 W# c$ P  [0 }. r3 M

7 s& f( k6 K5 E" i+ y% PLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo' @- t  y+ h2 b, P' d0 Z6 Q

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+ n) M8 o/ z9 A7 ~: k3 |) L[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
% k% I. h9 O9 x* s8 m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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3 x& x% p- l0 v: s) U4 B! b4 l"不信也沒損失"
$ y/ n4 O& H8 S% L$ b9 H4 d7 NYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
$ R( Y1 X7 j+ o2 L( ^1 K. ubut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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4 w; ^6 j9 o- _# ?5 Iit's starting because we have sins......2 w& h  Q5 j6 D) @0 |# ]5 N0 G, l5 ~5 z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us   N' f9 |" a) m0 l# m" k: @' d
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"! P3 z5 J% g$ v
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
' E5 o3 q5 K! l/ d& |; O用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
! E0 \7 \# w! I. s4 z" y3 u這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全* k) r+ P' }" d+ J" v
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
5 n& T- a% O+ W* Z% `而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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: ]1 B8 @# T# H5 P8 j2 b( e導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
* U4 J$ d3 P$ v7 u5 @好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, ^4 K- `7 f% v0 ~一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
! s5 g" s" w" i3 ~" g改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 I; m& g. Q7 Y/ G美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...) u# U; s( n5 d
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具  ~7 r1 v" I) ]/ y" E$ U
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' D6 A3 s4 y, ^. y2 }3 z% u
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,0 q4 m% T' q+ a0 M3 v
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤( N6 H+ h& C5 t2 f$ W
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............$ h8 X, a' b9 K) M& I( d
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!! T: b& G3 F/ ]1 D$ s  M# n

6 l2 W% Z/ a! @# g# T, ]! _6 V不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!4 m3 G) u6 T. B9 K
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:6 f" O/ r6 E% b
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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, f* _$ U9 S4 @; ?; A* Z3 K- _+ b1 wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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, O0 S$ [8 I! x9 k1 Z& }7 `. m% _You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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