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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:3 X' I" U2 m( a7 J. l/ N
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
5 P6 j% N. O  o又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 A* k2 ~# }) o6 s. t; h
道理我知道好多只係做吳到" I1 v/ ?8 @2 a3 o2 t
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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& X: c7 C; m! T$ O7 }Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  i: u7 ~* G- @% l. A! n, t/ B, b
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....6 q7 Y+ I! s5 e$ e: P6 x

7 K3 j- ?! g1 g! Imr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....1 g; {+ _$ a4 [: ~* p) y

7 \: P' A) A+ Cstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 h9 U$ {- [  p# A6 N0 hcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
% @6 ]1 q# U$ J* [8 G' G我只不過微小的基督徒...................
# H% W$ Y" d! Y$ `3 Q4 d真的!!這不是反話
/ D, x# o0 K  o! E0 l5 b因為我是情感比理性強的人
# ~$ S0 F5 D. o% U; W所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
8 V% l. [' p* G以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
' k. ~- t) l0 A) ]. |在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...( e6 h# p  x8 j' _9 @
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:3 Q4 U! A( P: F( J7 g
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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7 W2 m3 B- S' E' R0 VWhat a statement we have here?3 N9 ^9 i  @8 W3 o' |2 n
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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$ h/ z0 F5 @6 o8 gI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
# S+ m6 G% t+ P9 l+ T9 p3 h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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3 v2 I" x9 \2 B"不信也沒損失"! |+ F6 V  M0 F$ V0 g
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 L6 P& k7 _/ I2 @but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......& a" Z0 ~/ V2 F- j1 T

& y  \; G% ?% wit's starting because we have sins......
/ E2 S) N. b" s7 @3 {- n% Wsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
2 d: z4 u( ^3 x3 f& iour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 C3 U1 T0 [* R" E只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 e7 C/ W! W, V# d用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: C, u2 i5 n1 a" w3 C* ?1 N& z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全0 q) r, o, w, s9 `4 k' Z
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  F0 |5 P! U- r1 h& o: u
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
6 A& k" j. y& Q6 [; W/ w! n好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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- U7 E; _7 ~4 O: A3 }一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,) O! k- ?+ E- A6 }
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
$ U% R3 e8 ?8 V8 c/ {- H- j美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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, r$ ^; I: \0 |  y吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
' C, Z5 P& ~) n信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干% K5 j5 u) X- D4 P/ o
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以下是其他人的見解,
% _, D6 @( D8 ^9 Z; `看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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! Y8 r% N) k7 [. @% `9 V0 ~. B6 z7 @[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............7 B" m. D$ L4 a" E; F; ~$ L+ U

! B- c* c; B1 f- A信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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3 z$ E1 }$ j+ u- x  H! W! m1 h# a8 L不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 X/ \0 ~7 K+ b  E

5 x# i0 v8 q" |我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, Z6 O0 c- a7 ?( X1 k& g
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....5 q) D# Q# h* `; t5 W

' H" a  Y8 n# M4 S/ _& d" k4 C) {Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....1 d( s4 O# H* _3 i

9 F/ N4 ?: v1 w- p5 l$ X) ~You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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