Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
4 |0 }$ W( b* u4 n& |' V我係一個連自己都吳信的人
& Y/ A, x, o' o+ ?6 ]* Y6 `8 n" C又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ j% y* B2 a' k9 |  d- z9 X道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 |& q+ l1 n# A8 U呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!, U& Z3 ~0 P8 ^* r  Y9 h
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....2 D( {8 k: U. D" a8 w

, H8 B& r5 J  }mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....; g' d, @. b, X6 w0 i, F
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 a# C3 ]# Z, [cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
% @5 W6 K( O. v5 ]* x我只不過微小的基督徒...................
1 c) H  g/ I0 b% r真的!!這不是反話
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7 h# _; m6 K8 M所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 ^9 M; I6 i& B7 U- L/ `7 W2 N
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 T% n7 i& V# J
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ t) @8 x1 r, N" o. d: E
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
) j# a) `& j6 _) u- m6 T% a4 r建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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) u- P3 V3 \5 g) G, y- r' r5 vWhat a statement we have here?
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7 A+ B5 g& T. l% M& J' vJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.; c& V/ i/ J- t8 X, U5 v# {; c

! K" \" T/ r$ }Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
3 B' r: k( b$ R1 o: B建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 a% o4 M$ v0 w"不信也沒損失"
) Y- [% r: ]) LYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
. \7 L+ ~+ W$ k) \9 N7 F/ A4 Zbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
% r4 @, C! {5 w* hsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
) v8 S  ^  G& {; `4 four jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"* Y$ v- [8 K# s3 |9 L
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
) o" i% B6 E( H- {2 b/ r用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
. p( P/ c) K* d% u" i+ `這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 n8 J9 R4 e, V如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
9 o  K: T, |9 j. j  @而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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1 l8 v+ U6 G( E: L: ?7 {導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' q! U/ M9 C) J" D) ~# ?
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 n5 P( r7 Z. H: ~  q

) F- w* }0 I+ W, A' M一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
& f  {+ r4 N  C) L9 i改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
0 k4 X1 M  D! x4 Y美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...: z9 a4 F8 J/ x  f/ i% B0 Q
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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6 k- S/ [8 B6 |7 A$ f吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' W% q  q  E  O! ]
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干- [- C' @  {# _2 Z8 Y9 }; `5 M; l* m
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以下是其他人的見解,2 E" t2 @9 q. B& ^
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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0 f- w9 ]0 H# y( R$ C, Y不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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2 N/ p' D5 T% G. N5 S我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ a  u. |# r+ E# }4 L) |5 p

* b9 m% g) n. }2 x# u同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; _9 t$ Q4 F! g5 g' l" c" G.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection..... Q. ^, O% `3 _( K- W) y+ g

5 R" t- b0 Y, W9 }& _& t) _# K. }; _Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." H3 _1 M; K# z: a

$ s$ m$ D! |0 JYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.