Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) A- c' K* K& n3 u7 n% P
我係一個連自己都吳信的人/ v4 \8 L4 \% V+ v/ Z7 {
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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: y1 A, z8 n1 F( @2 @% SNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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' _2 C$ c$ A$ K4 Z& e  {# V2 k* P2 wNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....  a0 c9 p! n6 ]
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....; X2 o9 c' [3 R: i; M: s1 T

" K) h0 A* c1 ^, c5 cstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 c. s- @" F8 n0 T7 Bcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
8 o' |* H/ q( @- d- p! u我只不過微小的基督徒...................( t: ?! e  }! A. b5 l8 f: x
真的!!這不是反話2 M# u, l- C( \  ?* e
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
6 P0 c8 j+ ?- k) l1 X% `  j( \+ G以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
( O! e) i% [1 E* c5 K, `0 ?0 M5 u在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; l8 i) B, t+ Y/ ^6 X
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.& ~7 d  g. c; {: q/ v: [
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
; `+ j: `. w' Z建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....& h4 C5 `* h# K4 X
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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7 ~- |, N0 ~5 W$ U" I/ b( Xit's starting because we have sins......
$ d2 D+ L* w0 f$ N8 r5 Qsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 }  `0 L! u, S9 F8 v" {! qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
5 |. {' D, o$ v  h! |, v* w只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& a( j4 Z1 K. O用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ e* p1 w8 ^% p: X/ n+ i這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全" l3 {+ y, Q! N# W% `* V
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, F6 _: E4 l' C/ G
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
* `1 N; t; e: x0 g5 H2 s4 ?好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,: ~4 V- {) z3 f2 }6 C( U" R
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( j  W6 ^3 l% ~3 ]/ T
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...1 e3 I. O. ~/ q' u- C

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,, z$ f8 D$ F4 T$ ?0 X4 F
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,) y1 F& n2 t2 R8 A1 r
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" g( |. h+ c1 W7 _; [- N  T2 M

4 I& Y2 }  W7 S+ V  i# |2 s8 L+ b不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 O* g8 @+ K( _# D8 U5 F7 P, r) w5 [

0 c' E% P! g+ l9 U" F我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!  G5 x- |! t! |; ?. {$ r2 \. I

1 f' |9 q5 c1 l* a! ~同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
$ @8 z& O) T1 D: a% m.............信耶穌... ...

/ F5 E* `7 S% M! ?8 ]7 _0 LRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....5 I4 f- {6 }0 D
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.