Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:: ^0 {  a6 U1 ~2 _' e
我係一個連自己都吳信的人1 a8 [- v4 u$ Q( ]
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢7 M0 W* I; {6 [& C
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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: Q8 m- C' Y' _2 P5 s. `8 PNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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1 I! R) ~8 }1 g  a1 A3 NNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!0 Q6 O3 J  \7 `- w
我只不過微小的基督徒...................! c4 f5 y9 |$ {2 h8 ^7 _! q
真的!!這不是反話
$ p* T4 W, L6 n% z因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' d; r5 v1 x3 n" U% X' p
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
( R8 Y7 b- ?% q! s在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
2 S7 W, h4 A& a$ r$ N- u建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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( o" T* C) ^2 l" g" i0 ~What a statement we have here?
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& f. ?: _9 t0 j, T, Y4 j- XJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! s9 v2 O* A' f" Q  D5 w

2 m; s2 G/ v0 nI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo9 C, g8 ]& k% Y( S2 b# j+ i/ E

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:" {, ~3 H. A+ j* Z. Y- t
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"; Y0 F8 t: c2 J1 |/ U5 G" X( w
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....- B9 k9 `' v& j& @) i) ?; M/ C9 C# A6 L
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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; q5 v( Z, H+ \. Cit's starting because we have sins......
: P0 R& h5 i7 Q5 I1 V" I( X  ]satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us * l1 ^& ^" G% C" B3 J. e1 ]
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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* B9 C" ?# A. f9 D* s用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: V, h9 u, m/ u. m7 v2 @  i
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
; G" X6 [/ y. e* B如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  U6 D4 E" a. \% u
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,2 |4 a# W4 J, U4 t
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,3 u) N# f6 x% y3 s
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,5 q3 l: o5 R2 k1 `1 i
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
3 G: q) c" T# I* r' [信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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% `9 t" V; J5 F" ?' T( I以下是其他人的見解,
8 K2 W$ {7 o9 J- l* o+ h" o7 h看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- P8 h6 W8 q, {  u: a6 V0 w# _
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!. m- e, B. S9 \& m

3 g- y$ z- f& r我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! w& D+ Z- T) d: D8 \4 x) }0 L4 l
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! @  n2 j3 a+ K4 v  L  r
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century...." b; d6 k4 a* }& n" \& ~

1 u0 L& P8 ~" Q5 [! I- jYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.