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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
! X1 z$ t0 E: a# d我係一個連自己都吳信的人) P% j! U+ P6 d
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
6 ~$ @! P; _! l& A+ w; O7 P道理我知道好多只係做吳到, a0 B. @" e3 |1 K
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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  Y4 q* c2 c$ H* v2 {7 r0 DNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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# G* C; y" k0 V# J  R7 j8 j/ D! |Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....0 G0 X, }, f& R+ E' y! n) G0 h6 R

" G& }: W# @, O+ O, f- u2 V7 Imr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....7 {, v- F) B& n8 L

0 y& S7 z# |% ~1 |( [# b7 o6 fstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....3 y( R- U) W1 i' I$ y+ e/ ~
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!9 Z6 _" ^6 p. u
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
  q7 i0 @; v: u' h! l真的!!這不是反話
( _3 d2 [) j0 L因為我是情感比理性強的人
9 b" f5 |; _9 d7 \0 X所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,$ w! [. z/ y2 d8 ]
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
" Z# K5 k- ]" Y+ S( Y5 `在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...3 B, ~# H8 d7 Q# k( J0 ?
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  T$ a) Z. [( I# J
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?( K& E! I& Z+ t" J5 e

: [/ n5 S$ C: }Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " i( c4 c  n" v. A' u+ O
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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6 X; F2 l1 [. _0 q! ]2 Q' RLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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8 L7 ]: R: w6 w" A% {/ H* j[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% V7 [- _3 ?% r! n4 ?
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
' s7 u( R0 N  k! U1 Q7 h' d1 q1 U$ w% T4 gYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 }0 ?* D/ P5 c- d4 h
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD........ ^" T( j- i, J* A3 y2 t

5 _8 k4 v8 k; Y+ Tit's starting because we have sins......
9 }' D9 P7 i& W) t( ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us & N+ m: H8 O: G1 N* T! x
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求". d( ~+ y% u0 w. u- M( {
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
7 Z! P$ I2 S, n/ c用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
7 c5 r6 `$ s6 w* l, O這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
" C  N) s* _* l如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,( P2 h5 D/ ?1 \! i" E  n
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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0 x4 S# D7 x, v5 m, y( s導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
# v5 I7 f- n2 S好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,( J5 @8 a- n& j' S/ Y4 V
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 B& J# I6 E7 Z2 v
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法( Z: E- [% O) }; A' l
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具3 Z; L, U. I( U( ~: F
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
# b' a( j8 v( Z; Z信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干' K  |5 q3 z$ i9 R) K: z2 f% b7 h

" \+ r% E2 t# v- Z3 O7 \4 v) p  y以下是其他人的見解,3 C. R& M' }2 S7 i1 P; m* _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤( Y, p# c5 M, y& `7 l% l
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............2 b7 }- x* E8 _1 g3 O5 C3 n

8 h6 y6 Z; [4 ?$ a, D1 P9 P% [信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!' j. ?' @$ m5 J0 A4 [* P! p

- R) `4 [( J- m9 H4 P3 d7 S不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!* E: A8 k- ]' G  \$ x' L0 i
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:$ C1 D% o. C% i# |- r
.............信耶穌... ...
+ c6 @2 P) O/ `5 w" s% L! Q4 kRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....8 K' a" j- E8 i6 [1 b
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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