Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
9 q8 N6 \- `( z3 C7 J% E7 h& Y+ S我係一個連自己都吳信的人
9 v5 p: h: d! Q/ @又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
1 t6 g* `6 z" M* n道理我知道好多只係做吳到
: n6 A" P3 r/ \; G- v0 n! T呢D就係做人的悲哀

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/ @8 k2 \! P- g  h- y% k% XNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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7 V- K" i8 \0 p% o- T( b. b- rNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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: m1 W. |1 ]) a( C. f$ [1 x) Rmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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. t- ^' ^2 |! m1 [0 n' L. xstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
, M' \; W, S5 u) dcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 z! ~7 G2 w6 ~. g5 f我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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5 f$ Q6 s: y+ N2 Q5 g& |& u4 C因為我是情感比理性強的人2 X; ^9 u' f2 x, P1 ]" S
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, }  {6 n+ u2 V5 U* b3 F以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,6 t) i3 w) A" w$ p
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...: G( R0 Y7 E( w- q, j" X
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
" z5 ?7 |) z$ `" A1 ~建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! d6 S/ z$ }+ E' f
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
% e5 a2 g- W/ I: `& C建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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1 j% t+ w3 S& o! x2 h# w* }! z! N"不信也沒損失"
% Q% i  P- l% h! p9 }Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
$ k3 F. I' ~* }  ^' ^# F! G8 A- g& Hbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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. {' @# O; D! J3 t( k: Kit's starting because we have sins......
" g3 @8 I. ~6 b3 }/ |  t5 Osatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 0 Z& b; R1 T4 M. g: A
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 p" n/ n- N, V% C7 Y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
% s! t" g6 B& C) P$ Z6 b5 B3 L/ K用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,2 L$ x8 B: P& V; h0 a
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全" {- S; Y3 \( f) [8 K3 ?
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 m) g* r) B* c6 A* {而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~4 w6 d. y) J) a7 c; ]/ I; [0 s
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
# F+ U9 j5 B, J7 L- `& @好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,- s: S7 v5 y3 s$ ]
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
- }, K8 o( z+ L改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
/ |8 _( m; b  l- k$ T9 a, m美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 w4 Y: G1 A1 z4 z2 a7 ~
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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6 {$ w7 t7 {& A- X8 Z1 z, N/ r以下是其他人的見解,  S3 `0 m; f7 D' f( C7 \
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤; F7 u, ]4 {1 \, Z+ U
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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, W, L4 ]8 K4 Q# ?" T信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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- R% e$ R6 D  S& k我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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7 ]) L2 c1 k" g( V7 q& m* q同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:+ F/ b5 h$ n4 |
.............信耶穌... ...

+ S( f! _1 [: @& w, E  H" G/ eRegarding the resurrection....4 W- c% F1 h  ~
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....( T2 X0 Z8 U- P$ [) q9 ?! S
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.