Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢% z$ z' G% H  @( E% ~7 k7 \6 o
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
$ A% I( K; y# _cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!0 h& l% c) j3 S) b
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人& S/ c& t, h% W- ~
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,( }- g- U1 r& X0 H( g9 o0 \! s* i
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,' o: F; R: }8 e
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ a; ?8 Q9 w" F% |  J( |
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, p+ |- o- m2 n# g5 X" p2 s
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  A0 `$ a; l7 q$ Z# e0 |What a statement we have here?! I. x, \, {# v2 A
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo8 ~( ^1 A/ F2 z4 b( a
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# @; K2 ]% H% V2 j/ T' R  d
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"- s4 R) R  w; w, D3 S/ R
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....9 Q' F: ~# L: F( \2 s
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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9 L; {4 A/ d6 J% f( w6 f# Git's starting because we have sins......# q! c3 z- f) i8 m$ T& |9 t& |
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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; y; i/ X' U! w8 k) E3 ?用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為," e) q9 `- N8 e& a* G
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 ^, U1 ~. e5 s# b# O. O5 W如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# u7 ?0 q& c5 X0 ~, ~' V$ y而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~; k0 H1 Z: K- e  M

) H" \# O/ _" k6 v/ }, ?1 ^, q導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
5 J* y6 j; R" Y! R( C# J' m好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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5 w& q( k% J2 \7 u美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...5 ~; p1 _( |- s- s! n) J( U

8 A7 ~2 Q4 R: q宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具4 N0 w$ q( W$ C0 E+ a# ]0 A
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,1 \+ Y0 i" e9 W( }9 X
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,; s) {+ N7 h2 B; S1 V) U5 }
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
# Y8 v6 l& k1 M.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....& G  m1 q1 V" j$ X3 T3 e: _5 `

; T, |# q, H. y; g, @+ {Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.