Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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4 J) a* c, B/ a' X, N道理我知道好多只係做吳到
/ l5 S5 f+ T) X8 k6 v  V: r呢D就係做人的悲哀

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1 l) l! u' Q; }+ k9 j( nNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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6 Y% A. K  U3 c" z5 ]+ m; T( RNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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& W/ d1 H" E8 h1 b, b* j: M" |mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....3 a- I7 }" C4 t

- d9 c$ h) j2 l+ v9 e0 o" v$ dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....: @3 }, g7 ~% @% ~- H2 w8 ]9 W
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!" b$ {: m7 w0 F; L! U
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: D2 ]: o. T* w$ S
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:6 Z' y1 Q/ L0 ]* I( u6 J; w; i
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. |4 l* M% f$ E$ X' YWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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6 |9 I9 F& C: ~( I; [4 iI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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# D8 R& z( ?6 `" P( x6 CLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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2 u2 X) p4 O2 A" a[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
3 k$ Z3 g* p) v( i$ V建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"6 x8 n# t9 w, ^, H6 G
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....# w( Y, A, \2 e9 l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD......." _4 R; E8 ~' r: A+ W/ z

3 B$ x+ E6 u8 ^2 ~" Cit's starting because we have sins......
6 ?, p* `2 K1 [* l: l1 Vsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 X  t  {3 V/ _1 }8 A* tour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"3 B0 D7 K* a5 J% |
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,( y- m6 W. C! M1 X5 Z' N+ f  i. s
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; u* r5 t# A9 n: `7 E- G
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
' ^  Z5 q# Y. W! Y5 {8 R好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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6 c* ?& o( {9 V( k一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,+ j  P7 U9 t. B; G. f- f/ y
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  t" I, B6 u8 t2 p
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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, U2 n8 \- U4 Q+ X- f+ K  ~; p7 |以下是其他人的見解,' [" w5 q1 b/ C/ A2 A% p( \
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!2 _' S/ w2 F+ G* J7 Q9 f
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- v* ~4 S' d3 j8 U7 E
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, d- }) C/ _' ]& \, p
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 v2 F2 i  C  ^% }  h- n/ x
.............信耶穌... ...

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: ]5 L6 E( E% L5 w( J$ L" b; c/ m, A2 AActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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' n7 P# P/ H, X4 `/ p/ \You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.