Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:2 n" `4 [1 ?" `& }7 H& q& {
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
2 g+ }0 L8 T* Y' F又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
3 e- G/ X/ N' `, {道理我知道好多只係做吳到5 B0 T; [7 v- G; T' ^0 s4 ^1 Y1 }
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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$ P) i: k3 s- Y# A. C& ^Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....0 @/ j/ I. @" Y/ }/ {, Z
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 E' b( Z" d, w% |我只不過微小的基督徒...................! b5 F; d( ^8 G! ]. U
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,# }% w+ G0 _7 Y0 L, t; m* M
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& u) [. @4 I7 {4 l
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; O, Q3 r$ X+ X$ K) k
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:- j! V; a' z! l! ^9 `9 Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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7 k- X, U( q; cWhat a statement we have here?8 ~/ Y( C) O4 T, M, R0 g

1 j4 P+ t* F) c* ]% {, W0 a, BJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? / c8 [, V4 }, {! {( V5 V5 b/ k; \
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"6 b- c2 h! j3 h
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......# i# t+ F) C- s& ]7 h
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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' u- w1 G6 [! K用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,/ X4 U2 _' r) h
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
3 ^) ?( J: X8 r7 ]( {2 V如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# N8 U- W6 ~/ q3 M4 @( ~而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. G, J8 _5 h" v3 F+ c# |好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 U- |8 i. c* V: O1 h! h+ e

9 y6 d9 w5 W0 X+ a1 j& O一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...0 @4 |6 s1 b9 ?, w, y) d, }

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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7 q/ E! {4 H. L2 b* L1 K以下是其他人的見解," i& I5 v& ~  b4 D# S: g& \2 @
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!( Q: h1 r5 Y  O% L
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; M* [% i9 V' E/ `: k5 A! D' ?
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!( m* J& U) P8 `$ h( X
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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  d$ [$ ~8 s& J4 PActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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+ L' z! F# S0 b4 }6 T8 hYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.