Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
& M* v1 j: V8 W- c" S. U我係一個連自己都吳信的人/ ?) x* S* s! q
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢8 P3 x+ ^$ e* w/ @& K6 E
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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5 W* A- K4 ~% o2 M- _4 SNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' d( L# X* a4 y1 b& t
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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" Y3 q$ Y6 r9 o; Estruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 P: G3 G3 Z& v. K6 ?+ o7 N! qcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 B# I; J& h7 U" r  Y: }我只不過微小的基督徒..................." J% q, h( x' _- y% q! t1 @
真的!!這不是反話
" G% G% r$ h$ Y) H1 l因為我是情感比理性強的人$ a2 G# b9 J/ J; R: T$ S' S3 g
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
5 Q1 g3 |- W" s5 r! W1 r以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,* @$ W% {2 Q4 f  N
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...# i1 k, Y+ g+ e6 |0 H+ G: L9 L
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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- H) j" j  e# W; {& U4 D5 aWhat a statement we have here?$ p) |9 C( t8 w2 P& ~& j) x
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! x2 H7 F! s+ ~7 }7 {7 D9 y" p

$ d; z: E- ]( m3 p5 e7 QI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 G7 l4 T* G. y$ ~* ?$ @& a
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo" p+ s+ G  H% w- Q

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 M6 f3 t6 h( A) O% d' k建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 a" |! @9 [; k1 n' W8 z6 ?"不信也沒損失"2 M; l3 `* [& t5 y% |( Q/ R
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....4 Y$ G5 l* d* f9 x$ l- n$ ^
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......0 V4 s) V# X3 S' N3 L$ S

5 v5 n$ |( y8 X' q3 s% R( [it's starting because we have sins......
8 `/ F5 D" h, Q% i$ f6 |% x; |satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 {( x8 J! G- ~+ T' C
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"3 A4 M% E( E0 f
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,5 \/ J! y  g$ }' S. ^3 g) k
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,6 E6 Y  x9 I: `! I* [
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
' T/ K- E% q3 q9 J- M  s. s. n0 Z$ r如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,$ B$ \, j" m, P* |5 r. a$ }; U
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~- @$ S9 M) X4 r

, U4 Y# B2 Y1 m' ~0 e/ v2 i導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,. P1 G2 v" i0 B+ t- W
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,! z- I9 k7 i$ g' r  n6 o% i) w* r
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,3 N% [% T1 H2 _. |( q
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: _6 S; {8 K4 {' i美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 k9 p) \. p, J- B9 j1 T
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干- r0 X5 ?7 B$ j2 Z. S' {2 ?
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以下是其他人的見解,8 ]3 P8 K# @! t3 a
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 m! w6 B2 {2 [8 U
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& o/ t  @' e2 ~. d# O7 o
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; k; n6 j0 l3 F) O, Z6 t

1 {( a$ @+ @1 z( V我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
# Q! l1 \4 d+ Y# C) j.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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  c8 n2 c) F( z+ E& y6 j) wYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.