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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) A. u* q$ m+ P4 y0 q9 ?( M
我係一個連自己都吳信的人9 d( d7 G( ^2 u1 g
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢# P, f1 c8 f; {) c
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" G' z3 t3 q& |" h0 K9 C呢D就係做人的悲哀
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) q+ N8 A: r. y; y, [/ MNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!4 r  _) i7 H) e7 i" ]
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....0 K2 {8 c, n+ P
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!+ r) n6 J4 \, W5 U% c; s3 Y
我只不過微小的基督徒...................% r4 g* |- P( F7 X1 r6 Q2 S9 L
真的!!這不是反話
7 z0 K4 _' N3 O4 q# y8 }因為我是情感比理性強的人
+ D/ ^) i! P$ x) O  s! U/ E( x所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,6 Y# ?' j% L$ `# X1 e& v# j
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
# E" B* [  u+ c: Y在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ e3 t9 _& \1 u5 {
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
. W# X$ ?- C+ W, O6 y+ n! S建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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' w7 I0 Q1 l' g( o: o: tWhat a statement we have here?; Z  r: C& k) x! p( h
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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  f$ [9 {" {3 z3 ~& G3 q6 Z$ ^. u; mI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:* ?( E" Z& i' q8 k% q$ O3 x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"7 {" ]. w: T& C
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
6 i8 Z/ S: k! N- L3 b) `/ Sbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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0 ^( O6 d% V8 P! u9 A; Yit's starting because we have sins......
1 l: t2 p' D/ y! e) esatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
" T) f" M! [) S; Z# Q( {6 cour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) \1 K/ ?6 W% i8 [4 E3 c5 V只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
3 y# i$ t" P% n- ]; ~用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,9 E1 t1 f0 y1 C" J9 h% t/ h9 J
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全) B' J  \$ M0 ~5 V" A& L; x8 r
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
) K0 X1 c/ O5 a" {' J: S而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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" c' k% v: c( y  A5 o導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: `; F9 a: i. \  E4 ^7 @8 s( Y9 p
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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  c  l7 [: x, ~$ Z, h一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,! i" M- F( n0 b9 {9 Q
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) e4 m! g  K; k0 i& a" l
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具7 T. L) l0 T& D1 X" M6 s
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
5 x4 |9 r* N/ f信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干) \; s2 I! e2 V. _$ A" [

7 [( x3 y1 B, `( ^; A" z2 O以下是其他人的見解,
+ {- s% o% v$ K! W5 A看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 k9 T9 n. J1 b/ d3 }. E$ a. x
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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4 g1 `- U) X1 Y6 C[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 Z/ @3 \' D' _  U" J
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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  P5 W- a0 f+ S: L6 A5 A6 q我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% y# t" q+ H5 ?; P; ?
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....# c: ]" B7 S- o# H" a2 ~
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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