Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:5 f( b' V% J" o4 v6 r' W  Q+ b
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
+ z$ G" {' c7 A* G* K又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 [* V+ ]8 x& W/ ?# _5 b" K( j- d* Q5 b道理我知道好多只係做吳到- z, V) m( @  ^( E+ s, ]$ j
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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% M9 {/ Z* a1 Q, y& v( oNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....1 Z  |& E  R. v7 ]7 N: l- X
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
2 Q6 J4 H6 c9 ucheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!% t# ]  J  r/ d& A, [. X8 C1 G
我只不過微小的基督徒.................... N$ X) e# B. J- K- W
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 T2 Q$ r' u$ J4 l
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,% w6 |! M: V5 d) ?
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
6 K4 g) g  p' p- {! D- \建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 j5 `; b& m# K7 p, R$ n8 {What a statement we have here?
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: x# ~( s9 A# v/ Q0 S; HJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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0 N1 q# y3 d, z$ Z5 k$ p# `Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:, ^& x/ [2 O4 t& b( c$ z; h
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"$ O; T' n  u, ~
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
1 E; C/ A+ W0 X7 Q4 R$ Sbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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( [$ U# b: h! S) ]0 T3 s$ o9 ]it's starting because we have sins......7 }) w' X- K0 j! x/ H
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* [$ R9 F: D7 V: t- U只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& @. \8 D2 m" y- C& ]
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,5 Z, ^0 v& A. F) }. i3 ~' ?
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 o: F6 v" G) z: k" t! f如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( h  v+ T7 `3 d6 K  c3 F0 ?而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~* y( K3 a6 [! D+ d" M& y' l+ L+ O

; N* \, {' ^) C% o% N$ u( y導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,1 M- m% Z& t( Z: p
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
; T, {0 X$ I! b" k  C改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
$ U& y+ @) T' G9 A美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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6 Z( q  J# Z. z! I5 M: q吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" \1 f. P+ l5 V! e' ?信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,4 A' t# ?9 M) N* O6 h% e1 ~
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤4 Z1 X1 C$ D: E. W' A
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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8 u0 n5 L  u! o5 c/ U不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 u% J0 y& {' t, a/ L0 |
.............信耶穌... ...

/ R& C2 h; ~0 ^9 Q( gRegarding the resurrection....
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2 |5 d! t& P6 k0 h5 ^Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.