Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
2 U. ]5 ?: ]" ]6 J% q+ [, }我係一個連自己都吳信的人5 v3 `2 q' w! c! b1 {! e' ^0 D0 n
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' |3 H+ j5 r8 O( U, y2 \, p4 ]
道理我知道好多只係做吳到- _' u6 ]6 U; v8 F
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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% N, o3 q: U# F" q- O* \Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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9 d0 e, Q  ^$ X$ v" i) a- h* vstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
5 ?7 ^& X3 e: T5 L% c0 H; ucheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!* K8 x7 S1 y+ @5 p
我只不過微小的基督徒...................7 |- O" ^8 U; }- p) b* W
真的!!這不是反話
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
3 e: l  s; p- j& ]0 u, a" ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
3 Q1 r7 q0 y; b在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...7 J- b, |( J5 v
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ q8 b' `; C  R建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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: A4 Y8 i- Y5 ^$ |+ W( rWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " `6 t" m. p- N- ]: m- g
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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+ r/ c" w+ z( |- ~5 R6 sLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  L8 j8 \9 j* c) B' D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"* e  p9 T. D0 R  }: W
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
% e8 U! O( P9 o6 m' Jbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......8 `& {" k0 h$ a. u9 c8 r

( L  Q( _  t6 x* g% S0 u7 Wit's starting because we have sins......+ K% @8 n9 K5 {: @* d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"* }$ e* k9 W; W4 ~1 y$ w8 W
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,( {2 {, }" G% d4 W) s
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: a( P0 e" l4 ^3 A0 C; e6 o
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: M5 A1 g( s; a3 ^' O
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
7 M; o  i$ m. _: ]$ K  Z" r9 x而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~0 _9 y" b+ o' i$ C  I
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
  J5 Y6 G' B  X( O2 H. B& _* g  M好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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" J, ?( D' M+ U; c) b. E美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...5 U$ T: Y( E/ j' U

9 W' d+ R4 W* f1 P宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具" C1 c9 a8 C3 t5 P! J; l, ?

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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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* |- t: ]' M0 p% V# o" q以下是其他人的見解,
3 I0 i: H0 U* P4 h看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤+ n9 b% n( `; ~# @9 z
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* t, y8 U: K! p! y7 r5 n
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 A  s- u) U5 f
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- @+ s7 A6 r. {. M

7 X2 A6 c2 b! J. n( c. y% t# j同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
4 Q9 B; s5 x- \* O" {* z.............信耶穌... ...

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5 }/ p- m# }, d% O' F8 m  e4 A0 h4 w6 FActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....$ N! [4 _1 m8 r# d) _
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.