Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
, ^( [! w: w. L, y2 @. c我係一個連自己都吳信的人
7 [) S8 l; z1 e$ |6 @% K又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
, y$ g# h. G8 t$ o4 V+ b道理我知道好多只係做吳到9 S5 h: [: X3 `8 L" y7 m: q* u
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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* m1 P6 ?7 x9 a$ ^Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!5 |  W2 Q! M* n. p& g% B
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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% F# u5 G8 r8 Z3 b. f- astruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話/ P4 v& N, ?* C
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ e$ a1 P% s+ g; G: W8 k以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
4 d" K( \5 d3 i% ?; D9 s2 ~! E在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...5 ]; d$ D- p6 P: |) Z% n
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
4 q( g( t2 i  f4 X% s建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  c3 I. I. C* Z* ^5 }5 w0 _What a statement we have here?
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5 P1 a6 i: L% P' @( ^" xJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ O! U" A; _0 s5 X: z2 E
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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6 w2 w2 O1 G! D' Y% j' X7 }! @"不信也沒損失"
* I4 h" ]* _& {8 D1 x4 YYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....3 \) `2 t3 l0 c6 R1 d6 |
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......5 {8 _& \/ \# t  u
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it's starting because we have sins......  C8 U0 j: p* y7 t
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ' X" X7 ~0 \7 X$ R$ R3 k& _) I
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") L' [5 y9 N) W  b, h% s
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全# q: y; ^# d6 I/ M. h1 p# t2 M
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ b; x( x. v+ }0 i" _, K1 j而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~) B; f2 X5 j1 k. A1 Q
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,% ?+ s  ]- p& ]3 Y1 B: u6 m
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,: _+ ]$ o6 M) Z" ~5 U1 Z$ |
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具- n' F; p0 c- a  _7 v. U% W- c
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, f# m2 _! c3 v  H信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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. _# g$ N& `9 ]7 M* E/ [我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, d+ \( g' m" S' m2 M( B
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
- S) j0 H" h. k" K.............信耶穌... ...

% S1 E) y- i! J" C3 r# t! }Regarding the resurrection....
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. t% ?6 G7 ~$ I; W7 vActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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; ^( I2 t8 E/ r+ n) O* {You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.