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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
2 L$ t' I5 Y& c9 J- V# x& S! I我係一個連自己都吳信的人/ k+ j. n. P/ Q; F
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
8 B( R- u, i! l( I  E道理我知道好多只係做吳到
7 G( z! t* S. ?呢D就係做人的悲哀
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; ^+ h% U, h/ b1 m0 L6 CNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!% Y5 A+ r9 f: i4 }6 I6 n

$ A( [! o* ?$ Z, tNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies..../ ~( A( |- T" @2 p2 I/ l" `  Y

3 j# a7 h1 ?& zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' @9 E" P: ^3 b

$ N9 f1 B$ s2 N1 kstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
# \. ~! S1 y, i4 D' U9 o) {cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
0 A! y. X6 Z2 n) \5 e' C( Z1 n. ^7 x4 w我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 |5 M# r. u3 ~: O9 H* |7 a# z真的!!這不是反話
3 d& ]' z4 K# d因為我是情感比理性強的人/ G1 q9 m6 |# ?! U9 `
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 ?; Z. x5 r8 E
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ r) k1 M/ Z2 a) d4 b0 {在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...+ R# b/ }  l% R
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:4 y  X# w) k/ r2 k% ?: W
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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$ X4 W: c$ X& R7 ], QWhat a statement we have here?4 G. \8 d0 x, V+ G! x6 N7 S
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* K& m1 F5 \; X. G  L8 i6 w
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% u. p$ u9 y3 o6 c, j[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:; J! w6 o. }- D, }3 l8 h3 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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3 b9 K3 b  D7 Z+ k' `" l"不信也沒損失"$ l' X6 }3 j2 p+ z8 s  Q
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others...../ t# X& C8 z6 V9 j7 o
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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: P  b% I! D0 K: B( dit's starting because we have sins......
  P! x1 S, P) s; F# e8 \: Ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
/ x, f7 m8 r1 `! _; Z/ {' L6 J$ Eour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"% |  t; _' n9 J4 K
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 D+ K4 F' Q* s6 L$ K: Y# x用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
) n( r! \2 ~+ ^4 g6 R- ^# P, m這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 P0 B  W+ g9 `如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ k! n$ V2 W4 `; z& x) {# {而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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, q% n8 {; w! J- o/ K) e& W導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
2 Q% p% ?- j2 }0 _  Z! S  N: s好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,% m$ H9 P  I6 V5 F6 K5 H( ^
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: v; V) e8 }1 i5 L美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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" a: `6 j3 ^9 j/ D吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,) O& E5 j- U9 i' |. [
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 t/ S3 U4 i; Z7 [( b6 i" {

7 T2 T% k: H' M以下是其他人的見解,* ~* S5 D- C! e; x2 d4 a0 `. P7 J
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
# U* ?/ x* R& _) Y. f/ lhttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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8 ^( U% t$ L0 R[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!3 ]) B) i& j0 n

: s1 L- F% m- c) s不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!0 A( N" [; _# ?3 D
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- |+ u+ e" T* G# @% L
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:( z: j9 i! u" i' ]6 |" j6 `# `
.............信耶穌... ...
# k* N8 z0 B8 w5 ~2 GRegarding the resurrection....& I" H; R" X" o8 q6 p% ^
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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% V5 ?9 c/ z, g' o8 \+ j6 PYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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