Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
4 g* w7 w2 ]/ \( Q) z+ i我係一個連自己都吳信的人
1 `- m+ L5 Z/ C5 N- {又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
" P5 f# A* B  k; O( @2 N, W8 @道理我知道好多只係做吳到) o; q8 H6 v, X! {6 Q) W' ^
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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: @/ n) z1 E$ E4 U" R/ CNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& [- u' Q0 w0 u8 v+ [

) K% p+ p$ e, D$ h# GNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 K' y* U1 F# p  X/ w+ @! X* D4 k
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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) d+ l6 j+ r" \+ K# `struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....# U. V5 \/ J+ _* ?5 X! `
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 k* O( w0 {) U: Z; t我只不過微小的基督徒...................4 v$ f4 n# w9 {
真的!!這不是反話, M0 t! ?2 {7 L0 L' x
因為我是情感比理性強的人$ x) A8 [( w  _, A) |- C
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,4 K% V4 `) M3 {* k+ F
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
5 o% ~1 K8 w0 F  D2 ?; Z% \7 z在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, i3 M. E/ a, y% k
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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8 G; @8 O: P3 g$ j; W. aWhat a statement we have here?; `; P! x# w7 N; ]! m
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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) |- W1 W3 _5 N. {# U! G& |I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.- D* O+ K( {7 m* o" X$ K8 ]
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
3 o% e- D9 w6 r0 _" }) }建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  f" ^7 o6 J, _/ J- n"不信也沒損失"
& R; Z3 @& T; pYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) E$ _9 Q2 H, G+ [. g. R9 Y
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......7 c# Y. N! t2 ]! c4 x0 B
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us / z' J7 N' c7 N9 D& j  [
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
: r# O* e" m; F4 r5 O只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 J- R4 s# l5 m% n5 R& V8 t0 p, S
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
2 E4 O4 I, v) c# g這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
+ C% f' @$ \( ?" c1 T$ m) i如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
, J! N# q3 W1 c5 W; U$ ]; M4 C而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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* f. t. a6 a4 d; m2 s0 ^* {; |5 |- U導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
( Q: U" j( P6 C+ N( D* r好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
( D5 F. r$ Y4 ~! z( Q; [改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法. V7 _7 h, P% _5 `
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...  M0 E) a8 X& G  n) l" O4 ~3 }( R

7 t5 g" ^0 f% f宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
- l0 f& y# a4 h7 J( @信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干/ `3 J* g# z2 R& f( \9 E

; G# q- J# y* l" E, S2 _以下是其他人的見解,
' J! q0 ~4 n- r3 U' V+ {( ~看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............" c& B+ r0 [& }3 I1 H4 ]* {

4 @% E" k7 \& v0 @0 Y; A* i信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!8 E' ~: _5 ]2 Z

9 s; r! A  s7 A+ ^不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 [1 ^* M5 k7 ^9 _/ ^

2 X' m4 H$ v- F/ O: `  I  o我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!0 I4 t7 l0 f+ n+ g  I9 d+ G7 I
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:0 c9 z; w8 z2 B: j$ b, d% J
.............信耶穌... ...

3 G3 a) @6 i0 R& \5 i2 P4 d9 BRegarding the resurrection....6 F3 y3 ^/ J0 s+ ?% Y
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 V2 @( S$ Y7 l7 L& z
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.