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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:. W! {. Z' t/ r( v) |# M$ W
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
3 X% b3 ~" N1 h5 o# Q. |又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ m+ O. Z4 C7 L: V' |0 o
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
" I, n, x! A# E( c) B2 |呢D就係做人的悲哀
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! X! p6 b( I' ^2 @  xNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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& n7 _, ?, C: d0 s, E0 l& |struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
% c9 q9 }# P( C% H' {cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!" F. k7 _9 Y5 ^4 }& m& T
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,; G. R: B& T# z& L& s) l
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
/ q  c3 r/ Y" x/ n) x+ R在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...' G, i5 n) ~7 ]$ n1 u* V
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
; a4 _: X; b* b1 S/ H7 [5 k3 J建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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0 N2 h$ B2 B6 j# I% g" t5 MWhat a statement we have here?
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7 _4 k5 b, ?8 y3 B; G  m5 qJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.  f' u$ g6 ?0 E" P
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
' x  i# }* W5 S* M建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"5 I- ~) c3 M0 }# s! F* Z! l
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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+ y9 T* u' J; i8 \7 }it's starting because we have sins......
! J6 B0 Z' z# c% Q( osatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
( |! Z( X8 r$ k2 [8 Hour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
8 D* g/ o" z& [2 `# ]只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
: J. V* v, e- y8 }- J, p用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
5 E! Y9 O( u- ~4 `1 k9 E這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全- t1 g! \0 l' S5 H2 D- u* P
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
2 x: ^) d# }) E3 ~而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
: S: ]7 a+ ^' m7 q好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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/ [/ I5 N# L% [1 x5 X一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,) `& _5 u- }) T9 f: O
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具# v/ t& ^  w' E- H8 e4 {
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
( a  K4 I1 r, a6 d信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干! L1 t+ s0 j% C- y* |

3 }+ C  J6 N- i, h9 ^% j以下是其他人的見解,
( o& f# R" T+ f* ~5 Y8 J看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤8 V2 x# U- d) ]& M0 `% d! `5 `
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6 y) m& x: }. o1 i[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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% M$ s  J: j0 J: I( a信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!0 U4 b' s/ H6 G& ]

2 ]) t. j, L, C; H1 L, _9 l: G不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:3 u3 a/ S; u# k' T' U5 j0 u! R: S
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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% D& f, i! y7 {- mActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... E* q0 e# S5 J3 d" Y6 R5 k

/ X& y0 {8 N. a: r2 u6 I+ e4 bYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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