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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  a* ^  c/ m0 ]% c" f: U* |我係一個連自己都吳信的人' a$ a3 x! V3 _+ D+ Q8 |7 Y
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢7 O1 I( b) a- N9 s- ]: s& E
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
3 T8 X! f( m: l" ^8 E# ^; ?呢D就係做人的悲哀
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  P+ d- \! v% e- O) T& M$ A; E" ~Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!' V. I6 C  t0 `: s# ]

1 h2 N/ J' B" ANobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) w. V; ]  |( y- W2 }4 M

4 y) |0 y0 U" T2 W2 fmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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8 ^" J! H, z  l  `& Jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
% c4 G7 g+ g% A3 `! e' |1 t/ a* qcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!, H1 [( ]  ^) N* l4 [  }2 S8 [
我只不過微小的基督徒...................- F% Q" a4 ]0 k$ A0 v9 Z
真的!!這不是反話
  j9 h: \, Z% e. S0 {" D因為我是情感比理性強的人
5 ~3 s: a5 {7 E  q所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' I; r% x$ U7 b' M2 N% W2 v2 h以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
. ^5 E) N. y4 |; e在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
. ~# }3 l  s9 v3 Q7 M建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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7 u1 B) E4 q  e+ R, b2 O1 C' NWhat a statement we have here?1 T0 l3 p8 D5 ]2 \, }/ P
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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' ?% ~2 ]: U9 D. S3 e; rI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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: \8 Y$ H# P# q# aLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo% p! N/ H) t2 g$ o
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:cool:
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! _- q: u( E# E* `1 K8 {6 b5 G[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
" U1 u5 O8 c* h  D建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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3 m7 p+ N( G. j, r( O9 t- k. |"不信也沒損失"+ t8 G% b. o# c( p" W& p
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" e, V0 o% p; ~5 [but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......- ]% E4 G1 N* u% {( P0 Q" r& W/ H

6 i' j* H, y/ H' l0 m( Sit's starting because we have sins......
; b$ b5 Z' r1 csatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 ^! Q- g% q1 |9 x, Mour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
7 n( _+ k  X) W# b0 I只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
# A# \& n8 A' k" ~% X% r4 Q用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* a; E, {' p& K  ~7 G. g2 a這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
* T8 K- r6 |' \8 g0 u- m如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 j2 S; y* ~; T/ @
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~2 r5 d# c, \: h7 n3 h( Y: z
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
3 Y* X, }; e# a+ f, N+ [( C0 l$ A9 A好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,! b+ R- K5 l) e4 t( I' ^1 P8 k
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
5 X  {) ]# h' e7 Z$ k5 Z! z改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
$ Z: ?' b3 V% N8 F) V# v  E5 j美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...5 Y* m7 o+ ^! i  `- ]5 V7 U* G

( d6 e0 K6 |+ O6 c8 `宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具9 o4 f! K) q* R, O. Z3 M5 q
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# t) R; f" ^* l: v6 x" l$ V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
! E- k, {, A* Z/ E/ t看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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8 }) H& }8 N' t  s4 M' b[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* o; b9 S$ t! k7 W' j

2 ]& l4 M9 R9 u3 q" R5 u, t3 n信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ P2 r  |# I1 x1 S/ Y. S) x- @
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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" x, l" V+ h$ I. f我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!) ]5 N1 |; B8 W8 U  r" s/ n

6 q. F% ~$ _1 u  x6 N3 J3 w/ T1 U9 u# e同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:/ m. U5 h4 p. s; R
.............信耶穌... ...
& S1 a9 T& l* ]( N" iRegarding the resurrection....
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4 b3 t: N$ ?9 ]- Z  n) M' yActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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