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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:, J6 {$ n# C! ]- S5 c- M: ?$ {/ G
我係一個連自己都吳信的人# d6 e( P0 _9 w. J# r& j
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢9 y" k* {6 l6 |9 T8 O- A! m* V
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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0 Y( ?6 m6 }# t9 S, M& q& zNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* _- O8 n* b9 _' k" e; r* {) W, z

8 c3 J  ^) Y! {; kNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 z9 R# V5 R' ^8 A

8 n. A) `( B) ]. o% K7 k5 D% Hmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....( T9 S2 G7 l; W. e
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
  \' ^( e& [2 A4 Wcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!6 b0 f$ ?) T- \* H
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
+ W9 A0 A8 F7 @* A9 A真的!!這不是反話6 H: x4 H9 G. a+ r2 R' n. E, G; p& r% i
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
. W+ e" Q- _4 {/ J2 S以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- ^! p. A; Z$ i1 Y1 N% O2 y0 J
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...% M5 Z/ f5 n6 {, a! R, V
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
2 N5 O( R$ i" X& p! V+ v4 B2 z7 w建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. G  X- q6 f# \6 |8 r8 h% n1 N; NWhat a statement we have here?
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# f. f! c9 P% ]( g9 dJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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+ i2 o- p# ^. U' X( ]8 OI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.9 m$ v6 y5 c& @! k6 A
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo2 J/ [) h2 r+ r( L, O6 J1 j8 P+ Z
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:6 h# n# s8 X. _( p2 I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 Q0 n6 g/ t0 Z"不信也沒損失"
+ z/ ~6 i+ |/ g% p" L9 Q9 aYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
& R9 }8 |9 n7 S) b1 Nbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......  `) }3 [* J& ]9 u& `1 B

! ^& g3 \8 i5 R/ U6 C& G# k: x5 n- N" Vit's starting because we have sins......" `9 v. i/ v2 `5 ?/ N# b% H
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us " u$ j0 I: U9 @/ N5 \& `
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
8 G% L0 Z' ]+ {0 J( `: d* L8 L4 f只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,; H* @! C3 \0 j1 N0 N) `
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,! B' g* Y5 l4 d. {
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
' J1 N& e1 m9 K; ]% ?) A如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
6 @- ]" e8 {4 E) n) a$ q0 ]! c1 t而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~: Y3 \' b4 k# a$ A$ W

& G9 ^2 d/ ~# T2 x% c" a導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,! c; F# l  v+ S+ t$ r" L$ N) Q+ v- T
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: v1 a# K. i2 z% l0 U/ z改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
. H* s  J  `7 H- a美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...) L' \3 c( I' `4 p& K
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具" E: S; t# Y9 h4 {2 k
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
3 G  W8 J0 n9 E# m* R信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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+ B: y1 L5 V; O- S6 v以下是其他人的見解,: f, j+ w. j5 e0 m) D
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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" R# A9 E/ U2 H! i0 j$ C; Z( }" n信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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  h/ t2 F+ ?) `" u2 e不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!! Q, W$ n3 B7 T

0 s& b: f) B, E; [* f! d我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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. U. Q( I8 A" z/ G同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 z" r, a( [! s  y& H- ?. E
.............信耶穌... ...
+ m$ n4 w5 Q& x9 l  P9 ]# tRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....1 v0 Q* g% ^$ B* R
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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