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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
. {2 J. M' a7 X6 a我係一個連自己都吳信的人: _4 `4 L- u) s, M; D
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
0 {5 R0 E9 u. o3 l* j( S道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 y1 k# d. Z1 d! G9 `
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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' r/ q% S1 I' w! ~6 g. aNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....9 Z- ^" ?$ L6 a9 f
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
! r+ }! q, u' K2 T" q+ rcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
9 ~+ \3 l9 u( Z4 Y+ Q0 Y我只不過微小的基督徒..................., K* s) s% t6 f( }, c
真的!!這不是反話$ S6 N0 o) L0 g6 p! I6 D( G9 C. a
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
  _) `3 s0 D( X1 a- h8 p以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
4 o3 l( l* T3 ], ]1 f: m1 m; g. s在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...4 w! U) p% F2 T2 u! x8 n. `
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:4 W) e$ T; t2 [( w( a0 |
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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' y+ {& x/ f. F4 V! X* \, h8 CWhat a statement we have here?
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/ u8 W7 H8 a1 _5 ^; N( xJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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/ S& ]6 p3 A6 D  Z: j3 UI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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/ y4 Q; R# m- R( _9 v6 x: i8 pLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo0 _7 I; Q: S: H
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:* F+ ^- s: _+ z' W, w0 ]% b
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
# w2 p9 h+ Z" R9 X; U8 p' HYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......
( y+ s9 X# \9 ]0 Y/ n& x' asatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 k3 q* _+ Z. ~3 G- oour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& a8 f/ G" s5 |5 n) d! C這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全, |7 L/ T! V% D# O8 a3 |
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* j% ^+ Y3 I2 u1 k8 h9 Y. K; T
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~9 E- V7 ^3 E3 B) {& x3 R# ?# ~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,/ K- r) j0 t/ T
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,# S$ x4 H8 U4 Y4 J3 c

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9 `3 C5 ?# I+ |4 }# T: _: @美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...+ D" g' ^/ U3 _! x$ ?5 x, x  ~
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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" U4 N( h. S/ \吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
. ]3 T* ]1 O6 m" f+ }8 |9 M( _& F信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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% f* I. I" S7 q7 P* c) M以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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4 z! V/ Y5 n' _3 j2 b8 M3 ^[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ w0 s; h; P  @- [. Z
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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& w/ \4 d: @. z" A. B我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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  [4 C$ p0 D6 T同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 D3 u% `8 o* s0 x4 f( _
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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0 U  {5 B7 S- H" XActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 s; v( L' l! m0 pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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