Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
% E% V& |, }; `我係一個連自己都吳信的人
5 g) B* U! c* l0 B9 q. h  s! ^  E0 o又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢& j1 k; d& T4 f0 ^2 @  f
道理我知道好多只係做吳到1 |6 H  K1 P+ R$ p6 b3 W7 W" Y
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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6 p  ]0 H8 y2 ^0 }$ h- _! ~Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!' v* Z: m! m; @4 |6 B8 T
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....3 a$ t4 q+ t7 y6 T* ^" `* G0 m
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....* [6 |. N/ J" O0 N

8 t7 ?* j' a. ?3 d9 K( ^struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....2 L+ \# f  x: w5 z
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!9 g1 p+ X+ S0 _( [5 y
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
8 ~  ]8 e5 s# i% G0 Z3 |真的!!這不是反話
9 `  ~. C) b" H因為我是情感比理性強的人
: G) D" ^. {5 t8 ~所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ s3 e! c6 O+ s3 i
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,! `3 Y! g1 e1 o7 i) ?& Y; z: i
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.../ x. H5 z+ @; f& r9 |: X
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
& [% r. j" k& ]7 F建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?& w% }' b2 Z8 K" N2 b9 o* x. [* Y

3 u' v2 y/ X, v, |; u, NJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? % e; o$ |* r' }% R1 j1 h+ u/ ~
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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- [# {: J( U2 R, W* l: @Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
5 o3 J& T' p2 N, m建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
9 I" {  `: l! H6 O" vYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
3 i  r4 i1 ?1 U+ F1 M9 E6 _but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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" w* s* M" r: {6 W6 t8 qit's starting because we have sins......
0 e# G3 G# }, Qsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
* I5 d4 ]; ~" S/ r' `our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,& F$ z0 i4 O) [/ p
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% U% t& J" G( {! w1 l
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 ?) I' ^. j# U( ~2 q& d3 W" T4 S/ [
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,5 o( `- w& ~) S
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,$ ?) p5 e! f3 @1 I; D" k

! P$ ^3 m. _0 z, o* N一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: f  i7 B7 y. G9 D改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
" i- N+ X( `' m  T: Y9 s/ M  s美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...% v" s2 o& p0 d. G) G
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# _6 g* g4 h6 Z: b; C! P0 B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,% \' H/ ^( Q' W# k* M( z% g3 j, k
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤. t3 n9 P, R  I4 A
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............8 t. `# p" B. I, |/ L

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$ \) T: U' V% t0 A, Y4 Y0 p不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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8 N- ^  C* {9 {, |9 X2 O我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 q2 b: M) @5 [; T9 \( e& M$ C% c

3 x" P, X- l" m! i. X% P9 X5 X同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
9 s6 g/ O  j  B! R# W5 k" Y, K.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....$ F! u6 N( [: T& q
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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0 `( t6 W5 p% s4 L) ]! wYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.