Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
4 U2 }, I) p0 _2 X我係一個連自己都吳信的人( G6 y( Z* F/ J+ I2 l' E
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ U+ f/ ?9 m% K+ f0 Y! Y2 y% |4 V% x8 U道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....; A2 d& r1 o1 x5 ~% T& L
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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2 `: `0 G8 U5 D4 N: _* i. P5 m( Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  s* K0 U- H( o6 L' U) h* u- m. b9 e
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!. u$ c6 N* e* d; c% V
我只不過微小的基督徒...................% Q/ |9 X$ J7 m% t* y' I- ~2 X
真的!!這不是反話
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& j' Q/ g5 T( h1 M4 ^$ a8 I. @所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ f; q# l+ s  i1 u/ q" ~以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
, X% _4 r4 T3 s1 n: P3 l# F在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:2 Q7 n3 e) P* }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  s! ~0 m8 S' {/ R; m0 ]( J  {5 jWhat a statement we have here?% e8 w, ]( o: `9 M5 R( {
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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* s6 ^' g- y8 _+ C3 qI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# L- Q& U; K4 [6 I+ h* `* A$ |
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# z6 ^7 u* m2 c: n"不信也沒損失"& P* u. P# ^6 E4 ?- s
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......
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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 S& n# v9 |1 f1 u; H, I9 z
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全6 h* B. v7 W: \" W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,+ N  U6 e( E! m7 k8 X
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~) Y) i2 p# m1 o  U% c
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
3 `6 V+ h' e$ M9 ~% a+ q改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
" D% y& @" }% k6 d. n! V美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 Q" [- W. @, R2 Y# Z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,4 d9 d- o$ y! E7 G6 P
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- L; u0 f9 H/ y6 [
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............& \1 L0 S' j5 S: t
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!  Z+ p: o8 ?6 a4 B+ h7 G: e
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!3 t# M, W# a* u( q0 [2 o2 K" u
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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3 b/ S: e3 ]( E. i$ W/ o同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:& {  e- {+ A, X( ?7 H4 f1 E. ?
.............信耶穌... ...

" B, ^3 |" J1 T2 O$ nRegarding the resurrection....0 O, N, ?% q7 F4 X* O& Z
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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, G+ J& F: m& \* ]2 {You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.