Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
  S; d6 A* z0 Z我係一個連自己都吳信的人  r, u6 x6 ?/ @. T
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* d* e; ^/ ]# Y' y8 Z% S
道理我知道好多只係做吳到* h# |$ U+ x$ Z4 p1 L
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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7 m) ^* G- N1 [6 k9 q" H$ rNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!0 K; i& t; Y7 X% L! t# l0 r: E2 ~
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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) Z) @7 l5 |5 o$ z' A1 kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....! w1 ?* }; r7 |$ b, [" j) E8 s, w0 ~

8 U, U! ?) X. U0 W& Jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
8 P# ^) I, U. K4 M+ B9 n; M9 H' Rcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 n" x/ F4 z  d) b% m我只不過微小的基督徒...................
# i) H3 y9 O. B2 U真的!!這不是反話( F6 U: n, \( e' z; o6 k. Z
因為我是情感比理性強的人
5 C4 `0 L4 O0 B; D所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,& P0 H  V4 t( b$ C* [7 h
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- d( H$ U8 p$ ]+ d+ z5 y
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:6 _/ I; n6 b, q  l: w8 p( y' }
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* ]9 z8 i4 [: MWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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2 ]: ]+ n1 U" E- aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 x& E/ n" R% O2 `
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 e3 H5 G4 Y- I7 H( z3 o建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# t5 Z0 B: l* k"不信也沒損失"
$ D- i' f+ l( q( ?Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
! i! N- g) Q$ W- G: Abut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......, i" F: L5 E( P! N8 l4 A/ h; l
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 @6 j; ?! `( N! qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"! ^+ q3 t! k: n* R- f6 J% u4 o) F
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& x1 B5 o2 C! J1 ]用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,- Q. V6 F) l+ Y. H+ [; x4 p
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
1 s9 ?' {- U4 U) D  s( n0 `, |如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
' s% d% g5 B+ Z$ R" g8 a而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~# n# L) Y/ L$ O8 N- v$ q- K

) |7 c% X6 F6 @* O7 _  E導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ u( X0 F  S1 z# U% B% ]
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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0 X; v1 x; L# {5 R9 J宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! M0 R  j- E( `" J/ Z. y' b
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干9 u4 g- G3 C3 i  F/ [6 W
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以下是其他人的見解,7 B7 u- f8 e( }4 M* `" ~
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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. A  N& K; t  u4 Y- w信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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/ t! l% l+ p4 t) e不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!% A; `( x: M) S$ S# G4 t

4 a3 ~' [. d, y+ N同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
  u1 J- S5 I3 D- \.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....0 {3 H) F% G, @

  w  [8 f7 O) \  p5 iActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.