Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% F4 K# g6 i# e5 B5 I% w
我係一個連自己都吳信的人( s) i7 i/ D0 S* A# W
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
) c! A' d' K& i8 ]  U# Y; t道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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2 I  v! G3 X- s% U9 W9 _/ M6 V# v$ gNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!! {2 w5 D" \: F, z$ S5 O! F  [
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....: w% U: J" p- x4 ]

$ h4 k1 a- e+ ^9 d4 Mmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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! n8 ~; b- Y7 T4 E0 B* `struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
; t% X( ]% t6 `0 i4 mcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
% D. J% E7 `  `  i我只不過微小的基督徒...................& j/ l5 m$ l; e* G3 X$ u2 Q' i2 s
真的!!這不是反話) R( q7 F) P, q' }" t4 a
因為我是情感比理性強的人9 h9 |4 g  a. c
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
/ U: z' r* C( J$ r以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& y. y7 l* l7 R' u- h( c
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
* E3 k5 w2 g* z, U# h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?$ Z( ]" l+ E/ E& ~6 H

: P! Y% F# p; N, Q, A7 C4 KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 7 ~4 E- g1 s; I+ V. g0 `

5 s- V$ Y1 k8 F5 U$ ^3 bI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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1 J; ^2 L0 x1 c5 L: }/ KLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:5 P6 \' r+ j- s4 N
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失") X) s! A1 z! n; ?  |! d  M
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....9 X( G' q# t5 r6 N
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......4 w5 a9 {9 ^4 b
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it's starting because we have sins......) t* k9 S2 p# B. z
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us   w7 e8 @+ z/ ~
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
( S; P* M, C0 ~* A+ c只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
2 D, H- {. w8 d用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 H6 A- [  U  p) ^
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全7 q$ |3 J5 p) c* t& X' R
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
& T2 S& F( K( m9 u% \而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,, v2 t" _9 C8 [  \* h- t' G$ C# ]
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,  E: m5 u) f. C0 o
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
5 u' r5 H( @* f- T改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
0 c) m/ `5 n4 T7 w9 J1 w美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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' S2 d* x/ U5 [) J宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
/ V* M. s# ?( C- H3 {信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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: W3 Z0 Y9 `* o" [, i% _8 h! j以下是其他人的見解,
' C1 ^4 l6 u! C看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# U3 }, k( q0 o. p( K1 z3 b
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 `# `8 B$ h9 ~1 R6 t+ z# o

' h: s8 V: I& ~( I我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 m5 P: g4 Z9 {: S
.............信耶穌... ...

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$ l% E2 d5 v. a7 yActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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0 l- Z3 Z$ [: Y* q" nYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.