Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 ^  ^# i% {8 g# H我係一個連自己都吳信的人. J1 N8 ?* B1 i
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ p. Q4 \: w* v* M6 E' w8 `$ W' k
道理我知道好多只係做吳到$ T% x/ ^8 v8 Z* Y& R9 K  \
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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( O& A5 I8 z; S. ^# ENobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) H, h& I8 |( d: ^
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....6 u# G$ x) ?) A) ?- N5 g
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....* A: S- {, p5 D2 o9 E
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話, K# g( {  h$ E: Q- W' E0 B
因為我是情感比理性強的人
5 z1 g9 ?9 a8 H9 U所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
) @# v' F$ l$ u2 t3 S. I* ~, h以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
+ y  T' E* U# W5 @1 `# k% p在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
# C. ]1 z0 T8 M/ V; U9 v0 d! d建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?) B4 a+ [! o: L! f' c7 |4 |
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ z) q' ?2 o; s, ?7 E" O
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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& N- s) j2 C2 ]% ^) {Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; s# T" b3 _0 h& ~/ e2 Q
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:# x" h  c. }( a9 O9 o) W# I" |
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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8 H  X* j+ ]* j0 M  e"不信也沒損失"
4 g5 y* R: M# n& j/ {Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....* E2 p  V+ T( ]7 {& v
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# E" _+ u/ E5 s4 F( ^
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it's starting because we have sins......
* b$ |" \% l- M3 \satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: {& T: |- P. y. |4 h- U% cour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"- K+ d/ M# E# X7 o" y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
" g* o/ N) |; W: J  t0 D* Y, T, K如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,' G, a; l, T! I) h) v' e
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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- O& C' n/ ?  |) E$ c5 h導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
* y  [1 c1 w+ p. x+ M1 G好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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* e6 ]) j& R) d一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,, i0 W% ~  y0 ?4 t; F2 F  t6 Y
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法; z* I: ~- n6 f$ @. P
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,7 |4 z( x  C3 m# W9 y; _
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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1 H* S  E' l, K% L* n" F以下是其他人的見解,
: \+ z0 {3 D, @! i% ~看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!% b6 d" \4 ^- }, O% F9 o2 @4 w+ Q

1 N  Y% d0 b+ }$ @& ^不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!& t; }2 v2 n* P# q2 N

9 q- w0 ?) [8 L+ X/ u( [2 I我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!/ }6 v2 ~: [* q& N4 u* d, v! n
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
" s# d  g, _! ^9 B.............信耶穌... ...

  k3 _0 Y& H1 k* v  LRegarding the resurrection....: A1 c. N9 ^- O+ N2 W
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 t% m5 ~* i- W# ]# E3 P# `

8 w2 t1 G+ I2 ~You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.