Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 A- q/ b- B& x5 ^$ D我係一個連自己都吳信的人
7 K3 r* m0 c/ ~8 b/ D6 U& }又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢+ D; Y! I" @- |, i4 R! }+ q' ]: j' |
道理我知道好多只係做吳到/ u5 W6 x# ?' E2 O1 [; [' i  Y" c
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies...." T; o# H% z) G3 ]3 y
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
8 t9 n, B7 A- x& f6 t7 {: R9 t$ Acheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 F5 L3 t$ t# n, S我只不過微小的基督徒...................' ?! b7 r. s# k+ F) Z  p+ ^
真的!!這不是反話4 E+ I6 }% V1 b& W% q
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,) z- C' R* m; x0 q
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 ?, f  y* l' @* C9 u
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:! F; h- W3 m+ v8 F# @- d4 N
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?1 ]) s7 S5 b& s$ Z/ l; Q$ X

+ ~* m" o8 W- L6 BJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.) S- `  ^- n: s* [& o9 i+ u
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo! |( z  N7 @- h% _4 g& t

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:, G/ M0 {9 ?4 ~
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
) {$ f* s: x" H3 T: Wbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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( D+ N3 F, e& }- sit's starting because we have sins......  k- h; A3 j# J/ ^9 U7 j
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,' U9 ?$ Y- \! M8 [% R/ w
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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+ b/ L% F0 w3 b9 r) ?/ h5 h1 |一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰..., D! p/ ]$ B  d( X/ F

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,, n- U$ Q. p* a6 A/ u% a5 B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............7 ]/ p5 w& k$ m* [

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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!& p2 c( K0 o$ a. s1 h' n
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:: r: X; ~! @' Q
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...., `' p7 ^" G# C# _; F7 |9 s' O) P5 |
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.