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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
; L" f8 M* m2 g0 S! Q我係一個連自己都吳信的人
. y9 U0 P' r7 `5 }6 {, ^又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢, T! b% z7 _1 i) H
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* s4 l& m* G7 J6 s

; G2 Z1 I; M4 G) f% r5 I/ Z( s0 aNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....4 _: I9 e6 l- B  {3 Y6 V0 S

  W/ u- |3 g- e/ D4 M% Bmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# I" e7 U) o" M% ?
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....." d" u- _. n2 T
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
* A2 `4 ~9 r; h3 O0 b) \! |! t我只不過微小的基督徒.................... I) ~; ^; `! k6 z
真的!!這不是反話
$ Q$ g- h* V* m; S0 X: G因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,& D" _- e* I# s7 g- L
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- A9 F. c0 m2 A3 _# l' N# w  O, [
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...- w5 e& P3 h: `* _  e7 e
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ F( I1 {/ s! I# P, s" l- O建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?4 e' D. W' k. q* I3 T" L

' o8 i: ]( X: d" }1 T* A5 J! pJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?   l) ]( i1 _8 T: S: C
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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( Z$ X5 u8 {1 R: x, Z9 w+ g3 G( {[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
$ W; s/ _8 }/ D建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"$ w0 x) L  ^2 b0 C% s
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others...... ?0 C$ p& g1 n) f( i1 e) b% F
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......- {; A: k9 l/ I% \0 \3 X
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it's starting because we have sins......
+ j1 I( ^0 x. Vsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: g$ t/ A$ m- f9 ]our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"7 Q$ V3 M, g; E: F$ V, q8 J  G
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
  k. r. |- p" B; D. i: A( l用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,1 A5 n4 q. T8 E) [: a6 S
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% C! @" U2 Z" Y" [* v8 x
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,: j5 q0 g) t3 k. z1 V& z
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
& j# o9 p' e4 n. I6 g; G好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
* q0 K# C. D$ Q, |; U: G! K4 S改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法$ x$ O7 h, Q, C
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具, t/ d: u; d& X; S9 e) f

: Q: }; U+ A; ]1 s2 |吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,# b$ A: ]+ X$ T9 F
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干$ S1 q/ ^& x+ G. W& a3 }/ ]

9 T. j$ Q5 M+ L' j1 i以下是其他人的見解,
1 [" n0 P5 P) B* Z1 }; |看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) A/ k, U! U! Z* J# E1 Z

# ?) [5 l6 |/ U3 \信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!* Y; k' W, y1 G8 }# N) H( k

0 A. M9 T, V. M" ?1 a不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!. V: j2 R4 T# I& S- i

7 W* u  C4 f$ Q我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!0 ^( [1 u3 w( w! B+ }% Y3 h$ I
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:/ q/ P5 f& j  n* t. f* L* N. W
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....& _1 F8 B8 e- \; C% p
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: N" S$ f8 ?5 Q* l. [
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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