Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
* T$ C) `7 t7 \. ^1 I+ p( x我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! r5 G% k$ v7 A* F7 p又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢) q+ ?' `+ Z  X" d* T2 w. B
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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1 z' Q9 U6 L( S) h% }Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....$ k4 [8 I1 I$ E) K- Y5 @* [2 @
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 _7 e, u+ l* h0 {. E  {2 zcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!- O1 C, U' ^0 ^8 k
我只不過微小的基督徒...................) ^7 S) s0 J# {3 C% p
真的!!這不是反話/ m+ M( n: D1 c% @) H: f% Q
因為我是情感比理性強的人1 w6 L/ N9 c7 @
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, _6 I7 H  b% X- S8 @2 m以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# C! Y' l2 |% Z- l4 M
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! {3 B% X" ?* m- O# l" Z3 A+ v
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
( a0 z; z* b3 N# a- k建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 g. C9 I8 B1 M& t$ {What a statement we have here?/ \# n9 j" j  U  @' e3 C
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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2 H. [& j! N8 J& g6 l9 G8 ZLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo* C9 y" S9 ?; ~$ W5 b
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( [: l' R; F" F
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"" L: b- J& P" I6 n
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....7 r) u  U- q' A" S
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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& g3 [  G- A5 jit's starting because we have sins......6 j$ M% t4 ^+ @7 W
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us # v5 X8 g" V# U+ z1 L/ @
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
! h3 j/ J1 ?: R% l9 J  y8 C只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,) j, M! n1 Q. _# Q8 v
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( A4 M- K6 b: V" O這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
- M# d/ f  v6 q: k# R2 B如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
9 X( h5 ^; n0 r4 L& X, `* j$ K而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~! f# U2 D1 {6 f

9 A! E0 Q: p4 O) k+ \導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,* e2 Y7 K. O3 z8 L
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,4 F  b+ r' I% L- N- r3 N/ j9 Z
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
9 N" e3 H: y* V) q; O) E/ J' f美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...2 N( n7 P' z8 x

- I3 t1 e* G' \  w% ]宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具6 l8 [. j1 b8 W8 @3 o6 ~6 Z9 u$ X

6 d1 c+ N. r2 L4 n; ?吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
0 L; T% _' x) ~信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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- i$ i. t5 V0 z8 [8 D* a5 K以下是其他人的見解,0 p* G4 A7 j% ~0 M* W
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 F/ q' j  C$ |8 t; m$ m
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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1 |5 h7 T6 ?( L8 r7 k" r信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!) i# z( c% b* o6 _9 R8 v

: I0 k) N; w  h, w5 Y9 B不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!9 }  ]) ?& V( j1 j# j# s: v* _8 E

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:6 h! {2 R$ ^1 w) L" E$ f
.............信耶穌... ...

1 E1 a' a+ ]9 v+ PRegarding the resurrection....( D" W, x7 }( H8 P4 J
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....5 l/ _! r+ P/ d: _9 v: X+ ~
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.