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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) ^6 m0 O# s1 ]5 E! ]3 V2 N) z
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到; W9 Z' o2 R* K7 J4 v" x7 M" q% p
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ B# ?& ]: e' d2 A5 {. D

4 C& @% S2 M- L. HNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....$ B+ M  q8 R/ @
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....$ X; k0 `# s6 B) z+ J

: p6 K' T' n6 s6 \* Lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....4 t9 `' O. @8 w2 b
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
6 g3 x! C5 J6 O# J$ e  n: O/ X我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,+ A, ^! ?9 J% V
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,& d/ Z# ]: Y* m" m
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
9 }& v( ^( D7 {  ^/ A建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?. H1 a% ^! G" R  c
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? . n2 \7 o9 l  G: b" L
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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% r4 k7 t7 e4 n% x5 u"不信也沒損失"
. G, Z* O+ o, l/ k- H: TYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....8 T$ P8 I4 r# B9 s# V
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......7 p6 s# D) [7 t
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ' u, e( h; p' o
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"4 T7 j: \0 x. r% `; E& i' }( {' u
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; J8 f3 {7 z0 o6 E3 k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* S7 W( D* ~- f* s; |$ |
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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2 R) M! U9 Y# D4 h一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,& F* u' L+ S+ L& W
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 x; V. ^" l# d0 L) A# ?% d6 \8 L3 b
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...( Q: C7 ^5 a# X5 t: J# |

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,: j  W/ Z0 k# R4 H9 c
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,8 h& ~% a, G2 P( _
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤- d: z/ a" l2 H9 d
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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0 w2 e; A& q0 z( Q+ l3 ?不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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$ y$ U( G% W2 F1 q: o$ \我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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8 V6 k' I  N) M9 M7 ?同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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. l: ~9 V0 M8 |& g2 DActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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