Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 `" h2 O9 T$ M6 T' Y我係一個連自己都吳信的人
, J; X$ r4 _4 R; x又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢( k, Z+ g, h, E8 O) X$ a1 H# [$ \
道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 P. f1 L; ]) Q6 F  L( u& m
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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7 [/ E9 o' \. h% }8 ~0 @. J* X) INobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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$ I) ]7 P; b, p$ Fmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....- Z( [8 P6 G  h, h* q" S3 M0 }+ ]

" {) a) ~; N& Z) E4 q% @struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 }: c. L+ k* |4 Y3 Y
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
9 |) x! E; N7 n. e我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...- s4 c2 L2 o7 N: I9 F6 G$ h
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:" c. R; M  K4 I# L1 C# p+ M* e
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# Y; f. o9 I! u" H7 ?2 HWhat a statement we have here?; I9 a' c  ^4 g7 g4 y5 R

, i( H+ o5 W  ?8 ~# P$ SJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " C% F( R+ N" h% P! v2 Z; {
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.% F, @0 J7 i1 D0 u" Z2 |% L) C
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 \! f$ m2 N4 x; x6 c. N) e7 G建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
1 Q0 b9 z6 z' j5 {3 Y9 u0 C, }( ZYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
; r) ]$ ]+ Z6 M- m' j6 I9 t, u/ Vbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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; k8 t0 w# r. B" _) Fit's starting because we have sins......
# x) u+ ]: k2 ksatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
" K  X: g# F  g/ a. r只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,2 [- r# S$ P, V: P/ K
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,+ |+ a6 s1 T. @" w
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全; @9 i  i+ h% U# d8 y7 c' k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,* e9 R. e. g, h, t$ C  t1 }
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
5 X  b2 e6 ]5 h' D$ |- G& o9 g好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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, `5 a, E0 b6 B1 w' T. j* K一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
4 R) c/ D: U  q+ U: g改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
, ^8 u* `3 g" P6 y8 Y' X1 D美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...# X% O+ E1 |5 }5 H1 y: u8 x
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! @7 k8 o' L6 @- g4 j* V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干- e5 l) w+ F# Z9 V2 M; n% \
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以下是其他人的見解,5 t6 E) {# y8 w: g
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ }, Q# n0 g6 H" B% H) `

) I) L- U% ^0 C0 o# ^) c5 Q0 _- z, q我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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( A) d2 b5 W) Q& F) U0 s同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
2 Y# Y; |. _4 i1 {  W4 a.............信耶穌... ...

$ n! r8 l, L3 Q; k$ s2 n! a$ rRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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2 y( v& Q/ T% Y" y, e3 ZYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.