Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
" y! ^9 p. L9 ?. v+ |我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 Z! o4 ~: U$ G& ~6 @( p8 q/ @* z
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢4 `" _: I$ F1 T# m9 r+ T  [, ?
道理我知道好多只係做吳到- ~! n/ w# |  v
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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2 e9 @1 h% U) s+ x4 {! K! ?0 s/ x# K: wNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!- l3 d& \7 a1 t5 f) Y. {+ T
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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' T1 n' W* i3 `mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...." G* ^! f! d  ?- d

5 _& D! ?% O: N& ?struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 T/ Y* v1 t1 _3 w1 s1 R$ L8 @cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!/ y/ P) {5 w4 m9 {" q  _9 v# G
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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- t, y3 O- K( q3 q5 n因為我是情感比理性強的人/ ^9 E$ e8 T3 {, G4 l
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
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在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...( \: h1 [3 w/ `3 a
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ N5 x; a9 `2 }! T7 i& a+ H2 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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) U" T- Z; g! O  mWhat a statement we have here?6 G) x4 ^  L8 N! H8 |# p

8 Q/ o: ]' b2 S5 E$ J8 z$ A2 h( p( KJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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  g7 I9 l! M# ]7 tI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"# s" S8 _5 \" F; d! I$ L( e
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 M- y% a1 h# F: b. Abut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......3 E" K. ^6 I! N1 O6 Z% a. P$ x
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it's starting because we have sins......& Q4 ~5 i7 j) L, A. V' v
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us / u' {3 F. J/ k( f9 p
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# q6 F  N1 k$ l, {4 k只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,3 J3 w. x  _! O3 }
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
, A! U8 h- s/ e/ f' c0 }( ?這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
9 ^) M: k) _3 ^如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
: t" `$ d% ]8 E, v/ y而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,! C7 v1 `4 A# c% S3 g$ C
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
& `* b) E8 Y1 f/ T5 D美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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7 V8 Q. ]# u, d1 n8 N! I3 o/ k8 \吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' C: h. y; v* g" F6 y
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解," G8 \- m  M' E1 j- y! Q* @4 i
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤& o; {8 ^5 ?& L; h
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm( j3 x9 ?* O* h: i

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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; Q, h3 `% G* w, l1 Q6 ^
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:* U2 F# @/ `+ N5 {
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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, M% y9 t" k4 D. E9 S- e' A% ]Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 X: j  J  j- J# n# s
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.