Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
2 x0 \' L/ I+ J我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到  i/ ]& ]$ W& J9 @  |1 F# y
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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- F2 P* `+ a" |9 |* q: W% KNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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3 b% x$ V" U/ A8 LNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....9 r* i+ [( s  ]8 X! a
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 k7 h+ |+ k  V% f/ k我只不過微小的基督徒...................
0 a! @6 E8 G# `真的!!這不是反話
8 M  l; o- Y# h因為我是情感比理性強的人
! `1 W$ H( Q4 q: O8 q所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,! A, C. _0 U3 \" X
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 Z+ W' I* ]% \/ }1 q% C
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...4 w0 y- D. C+ L- k: |% Y0 R
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:+ C2 O0 e* d+ E; L+ W) m- g
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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8 U' D! j3 f. N5 A; M5 pWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 8 G' l! ]* O% _; {
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.7 x0 g% M/ h: a) Z6 x" Z# }9 ~

  {- \5 b, H  u* ELooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 E& f/ m1 Q2 k
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:; ?* e6 {( E5 W
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
/ ~% h/ Q' `6 d0 h; ?Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
" k+ s; w3 c( O+ U  ~but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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: g1 R+ A' y  p! f: |1 `, J) jit's starting because we have sins......9 p; w) T3 a& i9 f; ^
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 9 d9 ]* W; T& D, O7 E( a; }
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"  s+ S4 d5 b; Y% s2 U8 @% g
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. W6 q9 |: |6 H; I8 l, Y
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
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! O# u: a) @/ }' X, O, Z* _$ a4 j如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) F1 z1 e4 L6 @+ t
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,( C6 i5 X8 R: V2 K0 V
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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  [" b& H3 d& t" N: C宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
1 x3 d( K0 Y' p: u+ O信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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' z9 A' ~# v. _" `以下是其他人的見解,& \/ V% F8 a" B  i
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤6 A) D2 u6 e: j2 ~+ H
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! v' U0 t- t" T5 d2 [
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
. ~$ y0 Z3 M3 i/ Z5 R( W- a.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....0 g; {8 F* |' P  M7 ^

  ]  [- T9 F+ }9 K4 h  o" W- E$ xActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.