Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:% e' H2 b, m  R* S9 {
我係一個連自己都吳信的人, D# y  ?+ a7 D  s1 {; C
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ F3 K! }: R: I. p; [
道理我知道好多只係做吳到' a, m( A3 v- V9 q9 o9 m& o8 g; J
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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( L9 i! y4 L+ M( x8 M/ RNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 D, i: z, x2 e5 K
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..../ P" J& Y; g# ]7 r8 v4 K6 g. m

4 L1 C$ w- f$ f6 E  E, e$ Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!. z) G( |; r9 z9 e* t7 x1 [
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失," W, c! x; u& I0 N& }
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,/ C0 }8 A! t( `) u' g& I8 x% q
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& z! C" A- ~: O! v
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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" [9 f: r( B$ T3 F$ AWhat a statement we have here?, {4 f" Q: n  p# a) L0 y2 ^; c  T
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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; x8 {8 }, E* J6 p( jLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
4 }! B$ Y4 a% ]! I) l3 W建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ V  N8 V! K% W# _5 ?# K7 {  Q" D"不信也沒損失"% S! G, h6 M+ e8 `. ~1 ?
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....$ G1 ?* s7 T# ~7 V
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 T4 y4 ]: I# L5 ]
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it's starting because we have sins......
5 P0 V* y/ b' a& G0 C! }satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
, r, s' F, Y1 S# p- M2 u; A) bour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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1 U9 O7 r. E8 _% S0 |+ Q+ z- u用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 o) B8 @8 |4 R
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
, N0 O+ q0 K2 f: I如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ t( O) `* H2 c, Z: W1 D& o7 Q* W而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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9 V4 J4 z8 L* l5 [2 i0 G導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,: F/ [$ a- Z% d" P# G3 P
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,* l3 v# Q( j" v7 H' u* i/ R
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法% D+ z. E6 N" W$ w) |( ^
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
5 _  m& j2 {' i) f9 T4 A信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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6 T1 e) V( Z* L4 `; C1 S以下是其他人的見解,: ^. v/ B: L: C% L5 r
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............4 O2 i; Z7 v- ]/ j: w9 [5 @  X( i/ D
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!' V) k0 c" c; e/ Y" g' X

) O4 ~: B+ Y; V( p不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!0 p" B" y' B: I+ ]1 Z' N/ m9 z. z

1 O+ ?; g1 C* Z" C我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- n( ?: o& c! |& R; p

. w0 c$ L) X7 p0 D同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
' T& ?- h+ w/ A! V) J.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....) ~; d1 H+ p; e

5 V; V# Z! p% `3 @) f4 i2 P9 lActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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  w$ b: l: A: g- l/ @You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.