Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
6 {: O7 t# M$ ^我係一個連自己都吳信的人# D" J: b' C, c; G
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢# @9 F3 x. u4 B% w$ q, V
道理我知道好多只係做吳到8 b7 ^, u0 {0 w% F  Z2 |
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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+ }* ^% Q# H$ i% qNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...., q3 W# f, I* t6 A( {# z% {2 Z
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
+ V- h% o/ L& q8 P  ]cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!- T  K, P) B7 N6 @9 ~
我只不過微小的基督徒...................2 g3 ?) m% K1 e# S
真的!!這不是反話& [7 v8 W0 O) Z5 ]
因為我是情感比理性強的人9 }4 a6 ?9 {+ U+ V! J5 Y# ]$ _
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,- l5 T+ u. m/ h- X% ]' W
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 C2 o7 Z4 I+ P& z% X0 T3 S
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! q3 @6 }: m, b7 o
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:& o& c9 `/ X& r4 G% D/ u9 ~/ Y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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/ M6 E1 y1 B4 o, xWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.& U# i- f- m' F
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo2 \8 K& l, _- K* a1 f

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]

brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"
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but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 s7 m" s# V* A1 ~4 p

0 q  f0 G0 l1 S" \5 e  Bit's starting because we have sins......" \# j; b* l4 Q) J3 Q, O
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us ' R& m+ |; S8 D6 T+ q- `' }8 }
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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  n8 \& ?6 l# R9 p4 F8 z用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 l9 i# E6 E" f# }; e. c這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全/ K/ ^2 H) @2 u& y8 f
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# K+ a  a9 l2 t" D) R, L而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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, A$ G7 Z5 D7 H導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! `2 P# w2 W5 S. o$ y3 m. }好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,5 x& R& H: a9 g' [) y1 u
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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. n' L( Y8 M( F美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...+ Z: T2 u# c  ^
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
' }6 O7 l: F8 P信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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* f* u- C, t8 X3 W. x- g6 i* F+ ~以下是其他人的見解,4 ]7 o* t) _# m1 t
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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; z: d1 \" g/ N2 u1 o0 d不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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/ w' k/ ?6 ]- h, U* W/ R  v) B我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
1 a8 |% ?! ]8 O# q1 y; m# u. ?.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....9 K1 |& E; b! P4 A. y

" B: A- x, Q  v  u  P9 _9 X/ hActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....: T% M8 ?6 q: [3 ?0 {8 ]
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.