Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
3 t1 e3 b& V3 W6 X( e$ K我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! B$ Y" H" ?; j6 b/ b# H又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢3 G: k* \, O- ~( |
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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% s" d) e9 J* `$ y0 E  ~8 `Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!$ |- h6 I2 C" a: K7 z  Q$ G) Q; j

0 E0 E9 _( Z. R6 `7 S" XNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....6 R7 S( v& k: |  L, b5 a2 f0 D+ [
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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1 b  _  j  }, w$ mstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....  p# G7 A* X9 `- G
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
; m+ g7 p" O& Y) U  O2 k* v我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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6 d4 n2 F1 |4 b因為我是情感比理性強的人# p: O  A' }3 Z1 _( e3 b9 C
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! U; H3 v1 F: n' T以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
% f: U7 J& s2 j- f3 q" f9 v; w) n在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; t! E% v2 o2 l4 M1 }3 W0 |
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:( k5 S, W2 b1 G6 T5 Y0 o5 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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9 W& f8 K6 o6 r! aJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.+ v4 B5 i+ }) n1 d% i, @
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
1 v) q- h- I, p6 ?. f建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 O3 {/ J1 [9 y"不信也沒損失"
& e: H2 Q' Y7 z: _' a. EYes, we can't "control" the religions from others...../ j5 H0 |% Z5 M4 u8 P8 {  Q
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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7 F! E0 U4 d6 H  a7 Uit's starting because we have sins......
8 e1 F* O3 d/ q8 `- Z1 U0 u  Ysatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
: |4 N- X0 Z% g3 V' x5 l. bour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", X' {0 I2 {$ X5 Z6 F
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,! Y8 R4 [8 u: ~" H& B" ~6 t
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
; _8 e( Z% [% A& s# B! f* j& t8 b& O: V這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全6 C5 ^' x% p4 g8 E- S
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
$ L0 {" c" ~2 }- Y! B而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~; a& H% d7 U2 f; b
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,) E# n" b) @* p. d
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,, @- A* I2 ~* g, R

; q# y( V6 a3 j1 r& N, O0 Z; j, {0 m一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,% }& R+ U0 Z# H/ q+ l! d' |
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法- K  j, r! [( b! f7 F& C
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...' Q3 }5 c; j& W% g* P; }

3 S; w% q( H/ G2 i" i  x宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具" X* g, t0 n1 g+ }/ G' H& ~
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,4 j  g# D6 l# o6 y9 P& F
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,' t4 ^! y. P) R
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤# k) ^- H, }% {
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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5 t& ^( I# U/ U信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!! \! }, W- I/ n6 v5 d) o

8 T2 e* M% a( v. B3 ?同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
6 ^% @) K( o9 \.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....8 G" a/ o' \. w- N2 i' {# T

$ D8 M$ C: a  ?' UActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 d- B( O' i& Y- z. ^3 O* s

/ ^6 a7 _# v) t- Z" h( xYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.