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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 n' r8 q7 R8 P/ y
我係一個連自己都吳信的人+ g& D2 ?% Z3 M9 m  r  f
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢2 J" t* S3 v. N
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....8 W1 {7 l: k  f

# g& d! [$ D& }: X, P. v! ?- P  m- ]mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
6 M3 F5 ]5 a- [+ `1 Vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
3 R  F/ D3 p4 x我只不過微小的基督徒...................
' G' Q8 p1 A$ L3 B真的!!這不是反話
( P* W  U$ p" |: @因為我是情感比理性強的人1 k/ [7 ]5 W5 R9 G1 \. C8 j
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,. k" I% ^) o& v' @- O, J
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 g6 w2 s/ r. b4 ]
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...' {7 ?: {3 s  B! g( G8 m
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
4 n3 T6 i3 M( y- E/ ~建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?1 N# L! p, _* w1 y5 v! o% k
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? # e/ s8 D! i) P/ c. P$ _
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& Y  @5 w1 X& d! ?' D& ]
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:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 R& l: m: Y$ w; H建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 V, M. u2 x$ b6 q" m2 t9 g. M' c"不信也沒損失"
+ {3 W# l* P5 G2 mYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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it's starting because we have sins......  i; K! l7 k' X' q! b9 w5 W/ B7 G0 G
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us - ^4 G5 [0 t! K. a% }
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
5 X0 z- p* W* K- m只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
3 E  f8 p; N1 T4 C用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
: c8 C9 E- i, r7 L6 u# m2 K這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全5 q9 L3 R) }% J; [9 f0 p- k4 z- R# k
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,8 E1 t7 `& d+ f* v4 g6 T, ]
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~: I1 V, I1 L3 Z8 n4 c' q
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
2 _" H4 r% x" s- ~4 o3 u0 r& j好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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/ t9 l* B2 t9 Q) y' j5 `一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
* N+ @- t8 b2 \! A6 ]改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具. w% y, Y  y- P8 t- p( d! T
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
: C4 Z1 R% r7 j/ _7 d7 e信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干( S% E9 u6 [( c( j$ h
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以下是其他人的見解,
  E+ J0 I) B9 F8 O看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............2 `+ w9 Q  c& s' Q8 ^

$ `: T( D- m% R1 c$ d信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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% U# e3 H) e4 v不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
: Q1 b: G% {" N( J.............信耶穌... ...
3 O+ G+ d  q, v9 S3 i' ?& `, YRegarding the resurrection....- w9 Z1 q: a6 Z, U+ X
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....3 E) v- f6 z4 X$ j* B* d

6 g( T/ m2 Y9 U( F* R7 lYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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