Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:7 W7 I2 C1 ~; H0 m: w: M: O9 \
我係一個連自己都吳信的人2 e0 b5 ?, u6 Q4 h4 u
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢' Z4 n  R2 p/ ^5 h) N, F
道理我知道好多只係做吳到: p4 h# S+ k# S' [
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....6 v  _' @1 e2 ^, j! i& G

. b$ T; I- I2 p+ D3 w6 a* G$ B1 [mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
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pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
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真的!!這不是反話6 X, y0 M6 |0 w7 w8 V- o
因為我是情感比理性強的人' x* n9 x# L3 u. l2 w, S2 Q
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,# A8 Y9 I( P1 O& x# ?
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 t1 ?4 _+ [% R" B
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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2 D/ @, \9 X- M6 QWhat a statement we have here?7 b# m9 @* f. g
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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- X  e1 Q! m4 o  C# q7 k0 BI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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) f! i/ R* J, F5 RLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo+ |& N1 X4 c6 }6 E% h' ?) R
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:  f% h6 ^) _7 N. t1 E1 r
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# O: m3 A7 ?* ^1 D0 t- X"不信也沒損失"( l( g& k8 _8 N: G1 S7 |- X
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
: m- d3 U# D. `0 Jbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......: |) |% f5 F" l. T$ I

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our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
( f5 B4 ^% i/ u/ K% ^如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
. u8 ~7 t' P. {2 B5 r而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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' S2 Z# h' ?# R/ W# M導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具* V3 b7 v& _6 {
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,* c9 e6 q2 a  c  N& T# @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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$ G" s+ _3 P+ h7 q; d以下是其他人的見解,/ [6 z" o( k, a( K
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............* M( H5 S6 V+ S- p# D# H, e9 L

+ @" {' S0 {# r2 ^; n3 o9 I信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, |" S, N; M, |4 k6 L- h
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:! W' q# W" ?' ~5 K( J
.............信耶穌... ...

+ l$ K& H8 j' d/ U1 VRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....& _% N) _. p8 n% |
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.