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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:9 q/ q6 E8 {; t- @' Y$ `
我係一個連自己都吳信的人4 u% H7 H, t3 D& D6 u2 j
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢9 ?1 {) E! N, _) Z" I
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
; U: \3 l+ c4 A. x. R- l, R呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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4 _) z3 p5 G) s; r! Z4 Zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 b1 b* Z3 \3 }3 j& ^2 ~/ V
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....." B+ ^4 l1 U( Q5 E* ]; H, l" k
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
' v; o2 h  {; T  E; h我只不過微小的基督徒...................
* h! y4 K8 d: G" u$ y  y( y真的!!這不是反話
. @8 n6 w! F& J( w因為我是情感比理性強的人+ ?5 f  _& X7 Q# M. z2 r7 c: C( E
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 e8 k* T& z$ [以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
& |; H, e& b% L  |' w5 {2 M在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著.... ?, z! H9 J  Q
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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What a statement we have here?) G  e8 f; M# {- I: `4 T  h& W

0 Z7 e9 u9 l' d2 i3 U6 vJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 3 [) d) g2 l' @$ D! f1 y7 B! w

7 g6 Z+ t8 h+ Q( nI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.$ n7 c- G' K3 h' G1 ?6 U4 X
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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& Y2 W& t! m3 Z, _[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:/ i4 P+ K+ g& Y5 t! F6 N
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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9 }! p% D+ M' B( H"不信也沒損失"
6 M5 f* N$ D# Y7 PYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....( ]1 X- h( z% c! L8 T7 T
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
* G( c% ^" H+ J. Jsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 1 n# O$ |9 ~( H9 ^, J6 j
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
4 v. h/ c7 @) {" F/ k( }$ G只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,1 W$ u- ]6 h9 g: n
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,3 o' r7 R, Q3 E  F! {
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
) C. B: b; i9 G" g如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,' Y* h, ]! K: j6 d* j, U  M
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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2 D' ~; L* I) n' H; a0 |7 }導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,& Z. B1 \; v: r% |0 D
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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0 z4 b+ H5 f; c+ u美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 g. `  _) v6 w
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具# ~5 r1 p7 W! E5 X& y- ^  N0 j
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
, D$ E1 @1 p2 G信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干! b6 I$ F: w; h: n
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以下是其他人的見解,% f9 v% P0 x2 D' i( l- |7 {1 V
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤. p6 q, g  w# w) ^0 B# T
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!- Y% f- n5 B4 Q! T# |& @

+ r# z# {# Y) k' ?9 R4 h) J# |' C不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!+ A( K& q) n) Z. Z# F

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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:6 }1 j1 N6 B; s# A, g0 H! p
.............信耶穌... ...
  c5 g, `- v, k0 ~Regarding the resurrection....
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* ^5 x+ ~0 F  l4 D& jActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....; h! ^% Y8 A( m
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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