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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 Z) j) u  T! Q/ W- _/ g
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
+ X6 A+ r& u- I又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
5 w& V/ M% M/ {2 h, K! F& _0 g9 M道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 I! q7 I9 }9 N
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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, c  `3 [# r& p! ]$ @Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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+ R& M* R. ]: h- R7 bNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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$ z3 s0 Z! S' r7 H$ Z- k" _mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# C0 Z* @/ @2 b* M' V% T3 G$ F* D
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 m6 I$ ^# c! W2 M! E) ^
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!) j- z5 i& G" w" u, G
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人/ ]+ w' J$ @0 B0 L8 _- ?9 C
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
0 n6 ~0 N8 ^, g# C# Z/ N2 _以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,0 O8 d( E! v, Y
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...0 M; q. F7 S4 B" `5 j! L; {* }
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  L( y$ D! ?! J' X5 Y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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: {4 O! l+ w/ o0 Q* iJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? & [2 u7 Y/ A+ W/ H2 U

- I, _, }6 q1 K, b& |" R- }I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 V# \$ Q- D4 t. Q) C3 K
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo8 R  w" H8 S8 @" m0 N; H( u2 o* A
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6 }9 M1 @. H4 w# L1 }% |1 d4 o5 `( Z[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:) R  ~" y: ]# r5 R& Q' M7 \4 K& |1 o
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
. E% C% k0 I: S  z/ R- l- L7 O- M( F' oYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
0 u& U- J7 v3 y/ g- l6 s3 Pbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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  q0 y3 A8 f% l4 }9 z7 G: qit's starting because we have sins....... r4 I; l1 K# ^& h
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
3 |5 u0 b4 W0 k" t. U- B4 q: s! Wour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"9 L6 E$ P& |9 P+ j5 @$ q0 R' T# b
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
+ y' y% e; `) F8 v用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
& f% P& E. h% Y$ y4 U, }這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全- d) A2 C5 Q; E' E' W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 G, d. e% r" |" o: \$ _而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,7 B9 G3 b8 Q+ L6 H" P
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,7 p9 z" F; L7 G. C! q( f7 x
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,$ P! G' b  D( U$ E' |
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 p* H6 H6 W, }; x1 S
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...; h% D8 |+ _" c; g, B4 T3 I. t- ~

# ^4 q: r: O7 L0 k" W8 n宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具, Y/ M, K) b! W: I& `0 Q0 c
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
% f( M2 f6 a3 {* T" q信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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" u% m5 N* h' u  \以下是其他人的見解,5 }6 m+ d* j/ ~
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤4 D) H2 z( h; v/ G* {
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm. Z1 Q! ^6 ~( O& b: l

* r2 ^# Y) j2 `$ r/ P[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............6 o- b- |3 F& \# `* _
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!3 Z/ z  J6 _* l: x
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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* i. P0 p0 k( ^& u& ?- @* J$ s5 K我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:2 X$ R! h& i1 ?9 q% _! u! |
.............信耶穌... ...
7 C9 u1 M5 }, X0 URegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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