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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
% U4 ?( r. p1 D$ b. p# a我係一個連自己都吳信的人7 [6 c' w: C- Z7 g  ~
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
6 c! [& B8 F2 d" R道理我知道好多只係做吳到, K2 E; _, s% C; j8 a
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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* L( H1 c3 E# ?2 xNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!& c/ f: N! S" _! G: P

7 m5 S' g" a9 r) P. [4 LNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....9 t& E! o1 w3 C. b% k$ K$ [
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 g; k: p) O5 vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!5 ]& ~/ E! r, ~" r! D. ^
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
* X1 U! p( V* ^( H  \3 K8 v' _真的!!這不是反話
' O( n8 E# P  t) f$ v' v) A, x因為我是情感比理性強的人
% s7 j8 k9 M7 l2 W; T4 q所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,. O  S3 |! v7 d* Z& e
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
1 l/ z8 i( G7 c7 T6 ]在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
4 e& Y$ c; e5 }7 z4 J8 d7 s建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?; x* ~2 Z% b: C* E
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? , w$ `( R7 f5 x3 l8 ]
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo- y8 n1 B7 h5 }* @6 u' e/ F
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' }. K0 B' _# D+ g# ~; b: E& [; e[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:, S1 _& \3 V* h/ G0 n% Q
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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8 O8 L" @: k3 W( S* U"不信也沒損失"4 O) g9 Q0 D/ U; y% N5 _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....0 c1 ^2 M6 h! f6 i; a
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......* B# M. u- p7 S! k* o' L# b+ Z1 d
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us , G( |9 g2 r8 C. r# N3 f
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"* v2 {2 R# Y  P9 s. u7 Q
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
' r$ R& }( O$ S% O6 r用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,9 x' D- j2 h9 v! v/ ]# V
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
5 C  F7 e& y* Z0 Z. \; [6 W如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
# C) J! S# d& U) ^; V9 N9 u而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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! i6 ~& i) D" o8 k( m/ N  n導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
! m$ X) _) n6 Y3 h+ |好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 `- P( c( O! _) o- I0 W7 B
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
: v# n0 n- ]) c) X2 J( C改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
# ]# j: L5 @+ o; i美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
8 P9 z4 B9 e2 Z3 D1 z信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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" D$ E0 Q+ U1 p; a# o+ T以下是其他人的見解,+ F( T4 q! P( L$ `4 {
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤9 c+ W8 a, ?- \% \+ W* H
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm, _1 [" j+ P# \; @5 d! L: U2 \$ A

: r. R4 K  B/ ~  Z9 |7 a, M[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& P- H9 U- L; w  W' a

) }7 b, r% i; `4 h不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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4 }1 h: m- G$ M我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!$ w3 o* Q$ e( n
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:% A" g1 S, }6 S) \5 s, |& u
.............信耶穌... ...
( K7 d& ]* o+ J. F, o+ @- H. @: a/ R. vRegarding the resurrection....! B; A* H4 @1 k& U

& k: r, {9 e' `Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....5 d9 j& w! g) D' v
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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