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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:/ E- ^$ h3 ^+ ]
我係一個連自己都吳信的人( {' W; H8 i6 a
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% f* a7 l* V% Y- y道理我知道好多只係做吳到
% u+ v6 {5 x- S呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* G- n, y% G! c

) U: Q1 ^+ D& B3 J$ r5 h1 JNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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  V1 [1 ^" }" a' g8 x& Kmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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$ {7 o; @2 t( Y3 Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....) S0 s* a9 T: U# O$ F/ ~6 P* w8 u
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 n& c2 b" r9 z  t' [$ r- z! R4 O我只不過微小的基督徒...................; f6 u+ @! S9 z7 H  \
真的!!這不是反話. z8 F9 ?8 Q, K  ]  k( u6 k
因為我是情感比理性強的人
# X5 {, {  G: }+ e: z, x所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,5 D4 |: D4 A( S# i" I2 U4 w
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
1 A$ R5 O  u) B3 N% J# i  \) t- B在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, c6 H) h0 q7 h3 `1 q# @- x" @
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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) y, w) ?3 s7 J) r/ d6 U; vWhat a statement we have here?- r! A* L/ c0 l+ L% e4 L

3 m" }- o7 \. d1 x% u, Y' yJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ c, R4 S- G7 @# Z% b
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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  l3 D! [* K2 x4 F! u- qLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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* y  r0 S8 Z1 V* q5 W[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
( ~1 `$ M8 P5 _0 ]建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"0 e% z5 K  H, {7 g0 f
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....3 D8 q7 v8 C$ m* C6 l2 Y
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......2 y9 ]  q( s3 A% K: ]
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us $ n6 @) L, r  C3 Y1 S0 w
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
0 r4 I4 @- X, x% z" ]: U8 \只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
2 p! A& N! p; r2 {) r! o用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,% M9 C  a+ H% T/ S2 ]
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全8 _) n$ Z: H- @+ ]8 g) J! e
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
: f/ n: f/ `" q4 G而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
1 {- T; f, ?# i5 |& {, x8 D好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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. B3 M  e* S; Y1 _# [1 l一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
' ]' _9 \/ \* k: k. i( m+ n' s- Z改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,  A0 Q8 J8 O6 h: p! U% H
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干: ?7 G4 e1 @2 a) _, A* `

4 y( I* n! c! g& d9 _/ g以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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% i; h# u' T6 k不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!4 J+ A6 N3 ~# ^1 W! n

+ M# V  V% R% h! U! Q我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 J% A1 ?0 f5 p. W# P
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:+ n; j& b) o" S3 H% |
.............信耶穌... ...
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....% V6 }. j$ v0 F
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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