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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:5 q9 S3 `' g! r
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
9 v& t' _" F% G1 v+ o: ?呢D就係做人的悲哀
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& m6 {( Z, ?0 T) S4 xNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 T. O* x' _1 ^1 m! O
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
7 N5 |, E5 j( I7 K" N3 ^* D, r& `我只不過微小的基督徒...................) q6 C) }5 y, h. j
真的!!這不是反話0 M" ]# v: d1 j/ C
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 {& D$ j) h( f( G* z
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,1 ^, Y7 d$ o& J  C
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 Y- `" N: F! X/ [! n/ ]6 B4 c6 B
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:% X; W# g; |( _; `- g' l+ n
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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2 @% b3 U7 D; a( W* VI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.( f* r$ O- H- d6 f1 W6 g- `9 b
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:: B* ^. X% }3 `/ d' ?( P. @5 Z! ^8 y
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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' v4 b! H; |* T3 y"不信也沒損失"4 p  X, @7 e1 x. p
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
3 }& |  N3 V2 Tbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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" I- }% a/ [4 |it's starting because we have sins......; S' @% T  g# I$ V! _/ S3 t, {$ F
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 M$ J) U# h' b4 u. ~our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: u" q: r0 B# M$ E5 k+ N1 x
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
6 }* s3 G' ~) r如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,- J5 d3 S2 m1 C, ]
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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1 o" r9 ^& ]" x6 h& p  g8 U- p導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ R3 \' p" p% R$ G
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,0 n  C: i# r) C: I

" \' i: t6 `  z; s. n5 v. O一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
! ?4 b- o: t' E  [" c* H, B' R改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,3 s6 r8 J' H6 t$ W0 E
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干" g" O: n0 Z$ H  u  H' N/ f
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以下是其他人的見解,/ F" E" @7 M8 |# E8 @# ~
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤! K1 h- b! w# ?8 r/ r: a3 Z* Z$ I3 X
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- x" o! N9 K" _& L* U/ u[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............0 o! n' S! U, i
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!7 ~4 t$ ]- o' Z9 U7 j; s

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5 m  e+ b6 Z; n9 f3 X我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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! I" i( j$ S1 X/ v, K% }$ n同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:* @2 q5 I) j3 ?; e2 {% W
.............信耶穌... ...
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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