Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:1 w* x7 H' _' ^
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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8 y+ X6 _- a7 zNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% f7 ]3 k) K/ |2 F3 z: P
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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" I1 U2 w* W( W  jstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
0 q: l2 O$ \& l: Gcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
% @* p0 O/ r$ r我只不過微小的基督徒...................9 V3 b$ c$ ^8 Q: Q% H  N! S
真的!!這不是反話
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
( y1 {: C, p/ z/ }6 w以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
$ j& A. D8 ?/ Q/ E- o在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
0 ^) G5 S; {3 @% K建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? " R# B3 r% N- M1 p( A
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., o& T/ _* s2 ?( Q2 u

+ {- q- h' \4 n5 JLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo/ N; U, ^3 W/ g

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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"不信也沒損失"6 f6 T) V, ^" U( H3 E
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
; h. a8 M. x+ p7 tbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; Z& b$ m! R- I6 f+ @
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it's starting because we have sins......
1 G/ g; i$ `& U' Hsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
; o: s7 ]3 A, i6 H這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  q8 W2 Q% L6 k/ u' g- m
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 [, g/ S! ^  ~2 a
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~0 |& E8 P7 R: y8 t
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,' `* A+ ?* V; G
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,- ~2 _" F; g; ]3 p( i3 g

9 t2 K1 V8 L, t一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,2 W. N% ?2 d* w& E) ]6 y
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
* ^9 r2 L/ |  m美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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' K" W: H9 ?- h宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,/ ]+ y( O3 v2 Y% |. s/ U& B
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干# L, C$ ]( T1 B
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以下是其他人的見解,- \; X! W$ M) b
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............" ~0 x! m3 f, G+ a  ]: t
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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2 k9 g: U2 {$ L2 t) B4 U. A7 w不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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0 M3 O/ L$ K. ^& X我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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0 I- Y1 M9 y0 ?同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:2 e9 \4 a* v9 D( [' |3 e1 p: j" D% S$ Y
.............信耶穌... ...

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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.