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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
3 F0 \- }" ?; y# n" [/ b我係一個連自己都吳信的人4 r# c2 g3 Z) V' v- W! P
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢# f; n- E/ d1 |6 K8 Q
道理我知道好多只係做吳到# j6 Q; d" g8 d
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!  b1 X- a7 b2 O
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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4 Y; R" q$ F1 dmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 _9 i0 @1 \4 o4 Q0 g1 A* `cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
4 v* Q& n. m* L! G2 G我只不過微小的基督徒...................9 |1 u# T5 }) Z/ w9 N
真的!!這不是反話2 Y9 S) B# ]1 N
因為我是情感比理性強的人' n8 a# m& Z4 a, o4 m
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ t( r$ u( w) m) w- G4 x: k$ A以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,/ E2 S4 a& ^9 I) i2 e
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
$ q/ h2 i; L3 _2 @3 A2 x2 u建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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. C3 F' e' U/ \4 i4 j8 kWhat a statement we have here?* t9 b6 k) K/ r9 ~+ V" ^

( G; K8 f0 U0 s: e2 Y' D* ~9 zJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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  O; R/ K' w/ u8 }# S  s' n7 aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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6 b- p2 Q5 b+ i/ V0 V, C: sLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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3 M; @( a8 r. S: f:cool:
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2 w  X, W( n( e- `[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
& i- n, i/ ]' W$ b  T建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"2 {) g1 r9 W$ d/ P. g
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
+ ^0 c8 j) e' q) _$ y1 O& p" sbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......) s! k  W6 D5 E9 H/ m; k+ v! \
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it's starting because we have sins......
% d, W2 m. c# q) k' i! t% |satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 9 s  x. Q2 ?) ]& a: P" @" Y
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 \9 }5 X4 Y* F8 y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,$ N8 g1 f' P2 W* h/ R' A* c
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,8 W2 o9 q" l8 a% r+ h) W6 O
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
2 T+ e" C" h9 O如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,; b! ~: x( X5 ^$ Z
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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6 `* H( e. z" x! P) s導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 h+ I6 R/ G9 A# n- P; B. }
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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4 f4 `! ?# s. o2 n2 S一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
& z/ h$ U3 z  x/ G改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法  @; {% r2 w3 \
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具' t; `& h6 A4 m/ ]
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
+ u2 S9 x  o1 B) `# f信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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. o0 B9 K' @/ k, V5 m8 \5 L) H以下是其他人的見解,  X" x) n# m" ~' d0 u0 D" E  g8 H
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............# n' P1 u9 }# p) m# i: b7 \

, B9 F, @( ~" I) @4 U信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& Q+ E$ X, P4 \) Q4 J; S5 K

& p. W0 c- x6 N% d% I不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ F/ B+ z9 a9 {7 x( `

% d" C9 e0 _& b/ r我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!: z' z- F5 F6 M  E

* G8 |( R  s* p同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
5 D% ?% l2 m# q7 a( d! B5 }8 V.............信耶穌... ...
9 k& Y4 m4 ^( k) Z/ h% BRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....( B9 r. \% d9 X, o2 T3 P7 L+ ^+ ~

/ l* _% `$ [1 r! L! o; R+ r) EYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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