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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:/ k9 W# S0 `1 x; a; \) a
我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ s8 Z: F5 A. m: l! z
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢6 b5 w# |: J5 Z  k" F$ C
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( M, M4 C. n; f7 E6 m+ B4 e

6 E5 R& |5 ?) [1 `1 v# Z) B2 @Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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" G1 e0 P! x$ M* ?/ T! zmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....3 T" _8 t  Q! M: m! l
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 z( x  D; ~8 g1 u
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!0 w' R- D3 W7 t* t) n
我只不過微小的基督徒...................! T) Y$ J% \5 B' N# p) Y" i  N, u6 N
真的!!這不是反話
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
3 |2 v9 A/ B, K! I5 g以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,- ~. K2 K4 V3 F5 S
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
7 r: u! ^4 S" v6 |正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
: Y  T$ l" w/ n% u建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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0 B8 K& l- Z3 W6 t# C; u- yWhat a statement we have here?
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9 u1 }0 i/ c0 u/ y8 X. tJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? $ |9 ?+ g* q5 z" r' a
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: W3 a/ z  G3 d# R: A
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo( v  c$ S4 }0 r1 U$ Z0 r4 P6 R
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:cool:
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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:2 O# [- v+ d9 }/ I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"1 s& I+ [) ^1 w, w
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....7 A; M& a# u! I5 ]! D& S& S! J" @* W
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......9 O7 G: N( J3 t# |
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
1 w6 X2 d8 ?2 c7 A- xour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", y3 f- [( k" ~+ _
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
! ?8 S3 A+ n) {8 l. T7 a8 ~用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
/ ]* o" H4 P& t% ]* K1 U這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
% C3 y; u1 D  [( |7 ~: ]# I如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
- }' y) l  a  {8 k& U6 A而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~# I0 ?. ?/ W4 [5 T6 ]+ ]
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,* a: r, S: E8 [' s
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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* }' d: v  F4 T$ {5 J$ U一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
1 \9 L2 {" i4 f# J4 m1 X  e1 {; {& K改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,7 r" `: j$ w- M2 [- B( Y
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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# K% _1 Y3 m( }# }5 l# D[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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  M" C* ^) |7 A7 u不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ C- U8 B1 N* ]
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 i0 T0 K1 z& Q- _; O.............信耶穌... ...
" ?* ~- S' [: `) WRegarding the resurrection....+ f9 @6 g# K, B: C; ~$ c" v* i
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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# b7 F9 S; F0 O  K+ uYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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