Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
* T! ^3 {& \5 B我係一個連自己都吳信的人
! }; r7 ?! k2 z4 e; c  B( W/ }又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢" [9 {. `  _( v. L
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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% r$ U* p: ~8 J1 d7 P" e" d1 }( eNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!$ ]! p9 {/ x4 {
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' F/ O. e' o! N- m% E6 U
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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# f1 E4 l; P( a. J& Z& i5 i) istruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves....., b& @+ U5 W( Y' S7 I6 i
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ J# x& _4 j  ~, a7 c  ~
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
5 z% C; ^8 w6 ]9 \, b  e1 V以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,/ \& c, V8 \& g; L$ }; C
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...8 {, g! L) \! G3 J
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
/ G7 E0 y& b' d+ {, x% j建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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0 W2 O4 t% s) j4 v% H9 ?" jWhat a statement we have here?
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6 z, I( `' n2 ]Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 2 C4 v* l3 y+ y* }

3 ~: w4 n$ n- Q: ^  V& L7 s$ [I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo; |* F. S7 h: K- i' [6 `8 e

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 |! a) S+ \5 w* ~# x& Y建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"" V1 i* V0 S) o: a( ]4 N- z
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....$ j2 q" Z+ w+ w) `4 J# ?& l4 I' l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......8 Z1 S" r1 K5 r* w; {

2 @3 f7 u- Q6 e8 k! Nit's starting because we have sins......
& |9 V9 ~' o! `4 G" zsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 6 W  ^4 [+ I0 B/ X  L' c; y. I4 \& @
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
# l2 l& X$ q* e* a6 k只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,8 z0 ]% ?2 W2 ]5 }  P/ a9 E* e4 ^
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,: A, s, C- D$ J: ?
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全% g1 A) \; a' L4 W4 B2 C
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
- d0 o* j, m  M2 o而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
) a% R6 T: ?/ P8 v改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
$ W* b8 V$ m+ T" p! `美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具  V; O6 w+ y) o: e3 ]* u' h

& \/ o# O0 [" S# ?) r吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 P1 b( Z. ^/ K4 T7 T- `信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干! O0 T: `( [* O
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以下是其他人的見解,; Z  L0 y6 ~, C/ N8 C* ?" N& b7 n
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............4 w5 j0 Q0 Q3 Z/ P% L
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!& ]) r8 [- z. g; I; `1 V
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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4 H  U# d  A. e" }我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!6 @* e; S7 ?% c$ F

6 T( l7 U: t. _9 z  J0 [* @/ O同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:1 t6 }" B  o5 h) G' u
.............信耶穌... ...

  c' z4 ~1 x+ M- \( v. KRegarding the resurrection....% Y) [8 h7 _  [3 `1 I" r1 V

7 ^5 I6 ^* n# t, L0 ~. wActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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$ n: I4 Z2 T4 M: J6 M0 S" u0 aYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.