Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
* e2 A% m0 @) P# X8 b* c我係一個連自己都吳信的人# v" [1 x5 i& [6 f, N' |$ J
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢/ M4 K7 V4 w$ Z" o; S2 `( x0 s
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
& x* }, [# M  d呢D就係做人的悲哀

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8 p1 K  v6 ]# `1 i# u" \& {" WNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!4 a% [/ j" ?4 }. x) b2 P6 @9 |2 e
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 Z, \# X" L6 R+ w2 J6 g, `cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!( A0 l) h& Q4 }
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ H6 R" L( e9 i" d% R
真的!!這不是反話
- ?4 A$ k, s0 C) F3 D8 b. _9 U( @因為我是情感比理性強的人
- `; S0 m! i& Y# G所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,9 {0 k3 e& P+ ?, n6 k% b8 h
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,% f5 `4 I) J3 Z+ P; V
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
5 a9 ]  |$ P+ f7 Y; v! F4 h8 v& |建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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' t- C+ R+ c7 y: O9 h! nWhat a statement we have here?
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7 X8 m9 l6 a& K1 Y- oJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 6 O6 N- q" v0 E  @
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.1 s3 m; Y" g* I* T  i
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo5 k7 z: k9 P% [
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
/ X( g  U% E2 q9 @3 A$ f3 S建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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3 z2 a0 d) i6 n. S! K0 j"不信也沒損失"
" I5 o) b% H- t' D) K0 T% SYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: x2 h! `% `$ Q: k
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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% g) I- _6 V  G0 ^* e/ _it's starting because we have sins......8 H; D6 ^  G3 w5 }" v
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
% }+ D6 Z# b, p+ B# Dour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,6 A4 I3 H2 z5 Y
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
7 B; f! K' V; h! R, i4 y如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
; T2 K1 O( Y& A  f而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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* L' n5 W, o. R導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,( A! R, s$ V, w& ?0 {
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,, ^7 L8 v; n! q# K# J5 |

# L# j5 F6 L; `9 V* \2 d) O9 g4 P一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,6 l8 Q" E# ~9 @7 \
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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- k+ K  L/ V' q# R  V5 \宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 D  g' f% b* ]
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干! s5 X  m/ {+ i

* `! d: K/ Y$ f. n9 j$ ^3 b以下是其他人的見解,9 E. m3 q" f& Y
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤5 H$ e4 m0 M; A$ d1 C/ M% T
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............3 N& o: O* A7 O: n3 D9 c

: A& S2 R$ k* x% V9 }8 f0 \' L信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!* O: @' A) \1 h) J$ N! O

+ S! `. w  K- O1 Q7 A! P不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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$ C0 g" J6 I$ ]6 F" W! {1 E我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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( @- F6 f# }7 y, x& r同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
/ n$ e8 a+ ^0 A.............信耶穌... ...

- O% S( U' A! ]! I/ o9 QRegarding the resurrection....0 C5 n" F9 B# D: ^/ b

9 q) n- Q1 y6 w" dActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.