Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
. r& B  t6 x6 m& m- p: E' [8 ~( I( h我係一個連自己都吳信的人
/ j8 Y  |* g( s  F又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* x" v2 c$ D1 ?
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!* k2 P% k7 j/ X0 ?  Z3 I+ D7 V

. _, |: r8 C9 p, B1 @Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 @% c" {8 K' c  X" G) K
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....' V: Z, ?$ q6 H! B, @. t/ u

! o6 Q7 u2 j9 R- u1 {struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....$ T; p9 _9 E& E) y6 M
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
* K0 i8 G- _4 D2 `  u! V我只不過微小的基督徒...................
) c7 \' @; N3 [- E真的!!這不是反話
) G/ V% o0 }) I$ l2 H! g因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 a3 F' @8 g2 S以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 v* v( i' y/ ]& @4 L( r1 u6 J8 \
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...: U0 l  k6 }& x  [7 d
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
2 H9 P% F( ]) l3 F* w# ^3 @建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? . N: x; U& i: P! Y! O* I
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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5 h3 a) t+ r" }4 yLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo9 U4 [: O0 t3 P$ z: H0 s" @

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
2 K/ ]& [/ t/ _4 m; a建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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  e! }" W3 [; s: k) P- z"不信也沒損失"
: Q, T' X/ T0 V5 K  x1 f7 NYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
: ]: G& L: {2 d6 ybut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......' z' k" @6 M! ~, Y' k+ V
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"6 k  H1 d: F0 F) j' N
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,# z9 J' c( Z! n" _) L! M
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
, j+ x  U# w8 ~8 Z這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
% t5 D- D* c9 E, _* I7 p0 H+ d8 n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,  o/ G+ I9 [& ^; @5 `
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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) d0 k8 D0 K1 m1 \3 X( Y導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,3 m: [( \  e3 ]" J/ e. L
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,. D5 n& t% y, H, l+ S2 [7 ~
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法! e! `% q+ t  W/ l+ _- @# d/ H& G
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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' E  t8 |4 ?( T( G宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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9 {: G- J. U3 I# ]) q4 R吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,3 @9 h$ U; ]) Z  j: D( ]- x" o5 C
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,) w* u* |7 B- K# ?0 a# o3 u
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............4 w: y$ e* O/ Z2 y1 Z& \2 M0 g. t

  i5 r" c1 d7 W  {9 q( J+ j信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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. S) C) U2 F1 G& R不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 w0 d5 _' U) u6 Q
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!; \7 y/ d, F' f, |" Q0 a
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:: h) x; |/ r% g+ q
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....9 u( t/ J6 @! y. o
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.