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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:) S5 o. T, {. j( @: G- n+ |: P$ c/ K
我係一個連自己都吳信的人! P5 N. G* g! q* P  F4 M/ j
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
1 d8 D7 u( @' r' B* Y5 ~道理我知道好多只係做吳到
* P1 ~$ |. b, e6 e) X呢D就係做人的悲哀
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9 h9 T: U  q* T2 w  nNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!( @/ v; ~, h3 y; Q( M

0 q# ?, V( Z; `! h2 BNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....: }& \- [5 d5 Y* ]: f
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....& T& ~8 I, w( f7 w: E0 a
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....1 s, ~+ ]& g3 m) @# |
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!# C5 |* A& z% i. Z2 W- v. {
我只不過微小的基督徒...................% w8 C1 I, b- U9 \9 k# R! \
真的!!這不是反話3 R: F* @. K  V6 E
因為我是情感比理性強的人# R; f/ u2 J; [/ \3 ~# _* f- |3 f
所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,2 P# ^$ P2 d9 D4 F& f! X; G$ w
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,$ c' v% f5 E. Y& ^' O
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
! i0 o3 Z: t+ ?# U建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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! R5 B* G" N2 r. r0 H# Y/ vI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.6 R% S2 @, M/ I+ H

8 Z0 M2 [- i5 J9 @1 \' \% x7 _" }Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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7 T, N& c, N. e[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:9 u- ~$ T9 k% d
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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0 G0 @4 y8 F8 q) D" }+ y"不信也沒損失"
1 a8 t$ j* r4 O4 h: Y, e: TYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....% {! _. w1 g9 {" f1 ~: H, [
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......! X0 v1 T, B' t- e& c
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
0 ~- W: `+ @( Q; L, X8 i! Cour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"2 {4 U$ A  M5 A: M1 K4 h
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,& G- \0 \9 N0 w
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,' W! _! D, M7 W
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  ^! D  e+ Y& d; z
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,, S& ]/ X( e! V! P
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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- f; T1 p7 l* V7 x, R+ z2 u6 B導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
; [. L2 ~* K/ d8 w8 D3 |- A2 m好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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7 ]+ q# |( V  t/ Z; n一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,% m" [9 e% u- d) x9 k
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法! O2 i7 T$ r* v
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...# o/ s; b. G4 O  ?' Z

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, C$ k( N" F. r0 {3 d2 }吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,3 a: m. m- i1 M' _: Q
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,) l: G) r) W! h. D, q- L
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
& k, x9 F+ r9 Hhttp://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- Y: b1 |5 S% Y( }3 y
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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$ v$ D4 h+ {1 n$ m9 m, C7 C不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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5 ^, x' n4 u; a6 j  I. A- h我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!% Q3 Y% [$ B0 z; _" ]

0 K% r# a- D2 D; R同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
0 c0 k$ V! s# S5 Q* U* m: T# V.............信耶穌... ...
9 X7 X0 n% s. \1 i- b/ T" pRegarding the resurrection....: B5 _% Q! k/ k0 h/ G

8 n7 ~: k) b8 d% zActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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