Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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$ `! v) H6 _$ @Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....4 f* Q$ Q3 h- X* ^. F4 k
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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8 b8 \% p5 R" [- ]# o2 ]struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....: m4 r; D, O8 f* n
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
& {% H0 D/ v: K  b我只不過微小的基督徒...................( p8 Z) T3 d/ k; _( C
真的!!這不是反話
9 j" {8 E9 e6 t& W因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
2 i+ e3 C' a! E" v  j% T: ~以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
0 f  x! R5 S, \# _5 K在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...0 t7 b  ?( [  @  A/ B
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
  t9 z  M6 \* X+ O" N建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?' k  Q# V6 V5 u3 {1 F

# _" q1 z+ R% N2 PJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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+ x' R6 L' d. l8 gI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.& y9 |' D) F+ ?( i4 c9 c* [' c" z

  y' x# c( ?7 d% wLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo8 j1 V% u: `4 y) ?$ I* x  e1 G

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:: b# I8 x: q+ L% V) N2 S( n8 t
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....) C6 ~2 K/ O+ [% t( D  E; K1 g2 E/ O( P7 T
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......8 M" _0 d2 V( Y) q+ N2 M
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
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用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,0 g; U/ Z; {! U  k# H0 Q+ g+ u
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
  I6 ^5 z) j7 l3 H8 \如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
/ \8 ~5 o$ Y$ N! A. a而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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& ?' r, |0 X* w/ R導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
1 |8 B, R+ C3 i/ y5 ?: Z. a好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
4 z! S9 Q, s. u- @5 x信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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0 F2 X' W4 A6 Y4 Y  `9 P' S$ k以下是其他人的見解,
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!1 M3 M& w, ?3 A, Z4 h5 M3 G1 V

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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:- z( S; Q# U* y7 r% y1 ~
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.