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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:8 z* P% g, N2 }6 v8 W1 \7 U
我係一個連自己都吳信的人( ?+ y9 u% y; H0 O7 ?4 J
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢, h( y8 W3 C4 ^& v4 B  K
道理我知道好多只係做吳到0 ?% }0 v5 T$ k) h7 @" T
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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! z( `" W' M2 X9 Q, B: wNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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( ~  |' K- ~. n( ?Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....% K/ r8 k" n9 X2 P% m+ E
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...., B2 O3 N3 V+ R

! ]7 F. b0 ?5 i; r. ustruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....4 p0 {4 F- H4 h- b/ H6 k
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
1 F& x- s, B( R' F7 `& e7 M* Q我只不過微小的基督徒...................+ b+ x" r- t1 e( B
真的!!這不是反話
+ H9 I8 B/ B, M1 {9 i  N; [因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,/ l9 e  ]/ \1 _
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
) T2 Y) u0 z; i$ J在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& i0 |) O$ G+ R9 I
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
& x$ X& n+ U1 k$ C9 F! h建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?5 r& f# E3 h. V# t! l: v

$ @4 C& {: w7 W/ c# j; mJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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7 [8 \% y9 h) h5 RLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo. F7 o: l! f8 f  T- ?

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[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:* o' P6 ]$ ~8 i  f* ]+ N0 }& w
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"0 l3 Y0 C" G3 \% S( r6 \9 x
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
* a1 e  C- D& j; P. Z- d: q' ubut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......* s- H5 M6 P: X/ l' C
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it's starting because we have sins......$ H# m$ B( q7 }' U
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 ^6 P; }' s& n( S- U* ?our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* o* w  V7 e3 U) T只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,: i( ~- T2 @  A( M) P8 Q/ _6 y& |
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,0 K; E- e9 L; |( I5 ^9 \6 J
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
5 n3 h# @4 g2 W( b如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,7 D' n9 C2 g  D) a1 k7 F5 _; S% ^
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~( Q- e5 O/ l$ G; T  V4 g4 J

1 u1 v) x8 j, [. b& o導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,* {% ~8 |+ ?& c7 }& ~4 e; Q9 d$ c$ V( {
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,9 H% s% S$ ]" Y+ O, O' f/ ]
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
: t# ^5 @8 ^3 C  ^美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 N% G* I; p) z! ]# y7 E( P

8 r* ^  _3 ]" @4 D* U" g宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,! m! u9 G! X6 P9 Y# z
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干7 m* G, n! }6 E4 r$ ^+ N. G7 S
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以下是其他人的見解,
+ L5 U8 n6 o/ p+ u! R4 Y) \看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............6 _4 t  Y  k) t+ z& f/ P

, X. q# I6 ~. O" ~+ H  X信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!8 K* w1 G9 E1 O' d+ U# t) n
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:8 j: s7 s0 k! b- u
.............信耶穌... ...
8 \6 |- |9 F2 oRegarding the resurrection....- B5 r& a. t' y: _

3 O- N9 I5 W& Y- R0 |  A6 @Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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