Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
+ \) W3 D* W, i! ^3 o我係一個連自己都吳信的人
5 l* G6 H2 B! m! K+ G) a又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢* T. y! v" \5 ~7 [, A- F, }
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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7 K* K- W5 C* }Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!6 {1 I# j5 {1 l4 A7 Q* |. i

4 L5 V. a, {$ m1 B! sNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....  Y. T# z  [$ c  l! _! o
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....  j4 @. [/ `! o( f
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....) _; Q3 W9 M2 M, ^, q* {9 H
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!; h! _7 j- `6 M1 {6 J1 C! l- u
我只不過微小的基督徒...................6 H# l* Y) S% E
真的!!這不是反話
7 k  A8 ]7 f: h# C因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
$ t. H2 N( q7 J# v4 e以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,7 z' e3 T' D) }: E2 C" z
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...9 h/ Z# n  a, |' c! j
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:$ h* B" v; \7 f$ }4 e6 p
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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# N4 F( F1 g! I" E5 RWhat a statement we have here?2 ]( e2 N8 S$ P  P( a7 Q
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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* i; v9 R6 M: Z" {3 C1 t+ E) e& jLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo) V; B  L2 U7 Z" _+ R

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% b$ K3 i3 C5 j
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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; H5 p: I6 h( r0 L! u"不信也沒損失"# f+ V, T( J: {, A9 K8 S5 r% N
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....4 S0 L( r. Z, w/ w; k3 U
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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/ B) @6 g0 w" K& R0 d4 Ait's starting because we have sins......$ y5 J* K- V; e/ P
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
# P$ D; t! b% u/ X; o2 Dour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"$ A$ n" V- b8 D5 Y
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,+ i: J8 {% Y$ f% R1 ]# R
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
* Q' m; X7 |% ^# D這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全* T2 w& M. l/ ?7 E
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 `9 Y6 x2 j9 o+ V, ?" n0 X: X而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~, d' r. t3 Y. m

$ ?7 l' o7 S' H" j  @( D6 e/ z導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,+ ~% L) x" s$ |6 R- l& L% Z( S4 r
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,0 o; X7 I# V5 X( L- H
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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. x/ O$ x( q$ U- ^, Y( y: C* b  n2 ]吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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7 L4 ]/ j4 t! I: R( [以下是其他人的見解,, j$ U. B" ]1 T3 h. \- y
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............9 R5 E9 g$ k% f" `, Z

6 O+ M2 {. C& G) \信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. v) _; b& {; q8 q, r4 S
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
2 X! j2 i- _! w.............信耶穌... ...

: t  C% `3 J: jRegarding the resurrection....! j6 m) Z9 ]# R4 c/ c$ D
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....9 `# i4 @% @) W* L6 D
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.