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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
( }# _. `% y' k. I- v4 k% @我係一個連自己都吳信的人2 u2 B! S& h$ z8 u" |7 I3 S: i
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
2 y9 m$ J2 f) _& ~道理我知道好多只係做吳到9 G4 W- T' x: X
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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7 N, M$ N- I3 W* h8 _8 bNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ x" R, C) H4 o1 w

0 w/ ~9 x% K/ F1 C  A# T* jNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....! E8 e" K8 n8 C. Z+ z

& s8 D9 F% [/ T4 u( {+ C& G. F: wmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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8 d( ]2 o1 e& Nstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 c7 X% S2 `# b/ {# O+ g  F/ e
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!/ o  G# F$ |/ E, o
我只不過微小的基督徒...................: x2 ]; f0 j1 R& B9 H% o% A
真的!!這不是反話% q- a" W: U; j5 T: V, r
因為我是情感比理性強的人
/ c# c( S. M) s" ^, M+ S" O# b. M所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
2 N( r0 ^& N* Y4 |) n; t以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,) W" b6 N, K' y0 I2 I
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
$ ]0 l) k/ L1 }正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:7 k6 ]3 l# a/ Y! |8 u
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?   }) b; }" j& P" H& @6 d
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.& H5 k5 q5 u# A* ^

& @- Q6 E8 n+ V! ^& XLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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  Q8 g3 G/ D; i" K. s& d5 \[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
  P4 @$ q: X  R% p( j4 _& ~建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
4 @  a2 z( k" }: {& L7 cYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....., \) e" k6 f2 b5 H; k2 F4 L
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......# H  V1 R( g3 {3 U9 ?9 @: ^+ ?: o) l

+ }! b% o% ?' z# x1 r, vit's starting because we have sins......
7 g, Z. j5 G7 L" W) X( H. w  Ssatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 R8 Y8 p( _- Y4 i; y8 V! G, n
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"+ {% O8 K, W+ m) V; e6 P4 m# e
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,. n8 c: |1 e" X
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
0 D8 j) i* e3 b+ m! I這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
* t/ e9 \3 I8 h: M2 v# \如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,/ _- `7 f- r# M- P4 ]
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,$ l% A8 o5 e) @1 D- }, m1 s+ a, [
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,8 B- D2 [; [3 T7 L2 `" Q3 ?
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,' l) h+ I+ }% A# s
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法2 x/ ~8 P3 X+ M6 {3 j5 U
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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3 }. e+ H3 F' f0 s( h0 `6 W1 @宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
" g9 A" \1 M, B% P  ?8 P信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干, [; X3 {8 n, H
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以下是其他人的見解," C  v; r! ?5 b) A$ s& ]
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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1 b6 D1 t& @# H[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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; [! c; y6 j* S- |& J7 K信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" C6 t: {6 x4 _- s; X  F

! O& y% p1 c* u不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!/ s/ Q# }& m# h/ N2 ?) s1 G
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!' h8 k3 _! P4 Y  G" n/ y" s
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:4 S1 J- U& P5 ?
.............信耶穌... ...
+ K5 y! A/ ^& k7 a( l7 jRegarding the resurrection....0 y" F4 k: g; h4 E/ U
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....* d& z( \- G. k: U2 y
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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