Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:: Q7 {( G3 T8 \1 ^: A; y. l
我係一個連自己都吳信的人6 ]0 P, L' ^5 z
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢$ F% G7 E$ v8 ^$ m# }, e0 [) Q
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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" U  h* a# o# X9 G7 ~Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....& j9 R% ]9 [" F" ?' m6 {

. k% `! r4 g; N8 Dstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
9 T% x: S1 r9 b. `. r0 B+ b) vcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!1 O1 ?) D/ q5 J' R; Z
我只不過微小的基督徒.................../ Z2 @; X' K7 G; C9 V! m
真的!!這不是反話, j( L  m, V9 [: E* N/ \- e4 }
因為我是情感比理性強的人! r- W- M( b. K6 t( z+ D& x0 O
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
, n4 x7 y# f- Z- x; i以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
  ]6 H2 ?$ o3 A% X3 ?; {$ d在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:8 f8 i9 ]0 y" K& S& }7 D
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?. c% r. k* ]! N+ N% z, o
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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* Y: }0 D+ G2 U) ?" NI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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1 A! O( \# s! V& V% @- y5 ]$ v5 cLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
+ e# k$ q) ^2 C) Y8 A6 x建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* U" N2 {. ^9 a: c9 s"不信也沒損失"% [3 F/ v9 a7 u
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
5 T+ D! e7 l& @but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......2 Q' w9 Q7 ?- r2 H, G
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
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DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求", _' h7 B, y5 E( z9 j
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,' D. Y& @) s) `1 j4 \' d# M
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ s' k. J; g' Y3 P4 D這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全8 [' Y$ P6 c1 t4 d4 n- l
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
1 v7 J: O& ]9 F' @- M4 q# w, i* r而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,9 u$ h! c* G9 L, s( S, Z
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法: Y4 w0 U/ Y  b! r1 O0 A9 @
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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% J9 h+ R) l* A% n/ a, y# _, }以下是其他人的見解,
2 R, m$ f4 M% L, z0 H- k看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............- o" a7 `0 f' d* ]$ T1 }- n
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!9 {7 {( {/ M5 V
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:2 k4 j& [0 S7 z8 m  c& C! M
.............信耶穌... ...

$ T3 [3 O0 K/ W3 I  R* k+ RRegarding the resurrection....
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1 w3 t) _6 L1 d: |You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.