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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:. e9 _# x- f" b: ?
我係一個連自己都吳信的人- Z5 ~2 `4 R$ \2 F- V& G
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
4 s4 a' p5 E! Y) U道理我知道好多只係做吳到
- f' K, q( I3 U9 Y5 G呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" q" c+ k& I, ~  I
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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9 F: D* f3 A3 N' ]6 Qmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....# _' z" {( o3 x" F. `# a8 b. `

. {! y5 q- w, p# Wstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
& `- ?" F# H. W9 R2 `  ~cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!. o+ c4 _7 c3 f: m6 Q
我只不過微小的基督徒...................6 a1 o6 E5 _: W. K, t3 I0 V' B" L4 n
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
4 F9 D: q4 F" }以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,2 {6 a4 H$ P  X! d4 z
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
7 Z6 j$ h' z5 `建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?6 c" X2 [$ D) k) p4 Z
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 5 z/ h$ ?1 k: i- _* K
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.2 [! E8 v( S- V
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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5 n8 [4 q8 O# e5 B; w:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
* H- }( s% G( Q2 X" H' u6 {建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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5 U9 K. b- a2 i8 o$ g"不信也沒損失"% Y$ I$ `% e) `5 E
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
1 A9 q% S& d* w( S6 \; i- Q4 kbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......; C2 ?' T1 J8 E2 A8 ~) Q2 a
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it's starting because we have sins......
/ v+ m5 d, g3 _satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 0 C# i& E" [$ e1 {* T
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
) H! M+ j/ E; g: q4 Q只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
) j% h/ P: \( p# H5 ^% k, z用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
/ e" U$ g- c, C3 r3 D, o這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
& Y" a4 n$ d: ~6 a3 p" b# R如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,) _9 [; [) y8 _% }
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,  g2 x5 _3 Y7 ]5 |; z# ~
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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1 y& J6 G- w- K2 @; c8 h4 t8 }一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
/ {% h* N% I6 X2 w  h) c8 U改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法) n7 I2 x  G& r( O& K4 k6 ^4 R
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰.../ X+ }7 `+ W. N* [. d1 c# G

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,' ^9 B: T* w9 v" E5 o) C% W
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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, ?; J3 a  x) K. c以下是其他人的見解,
$ G. ~9 `/ m1 G看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤0 _" T3 \, W/ h* o- ]1 y6 D
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! g7 r5 J8 I/ J% b[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!+ o- @0 ~3 u2 J5 s! h* ?! Q7 f

" k# B. U# h, Q' s不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!% f* A/ @  E; ^5 u5 n

( j, _) [6 c, j# C! X我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:- ^) Y8 R2 G( L( p
.............信耶穌... ...
" T' r+ M" l! O1 h* C2 fRegarding the resurrection....2 }1 t! f' i8 s# k* C

. @3 Q+ J' Y! l4 tActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....& h' G$ c9 a5 F! o8 \0 t4 A
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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