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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
5 }# I% W* o( [( v我係一個連自己都吳信的人; o" o% [' Q6 p- ?$ Y" a( |. @7 e
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
% F# @( G8 O0 a4 q道理我知道好多只係做吳到
. b( l( l  A+ Z6 I呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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9 Y% K8 b; F; m* D; eNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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( W: K% j$ h# n9 t1 P* Wmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....7 N6 |9 V' D3 a; V8 [* ~
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
2 J2 R& I: f$ o" V; u2 N  ^我只不過微小的基督徒...................
. U1 o- V  n( R4 u2 e9 D1 F7 ]真的!!這不是反話# l" C; T+ q% ~; D: l. q
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 E* q9 A# {( y4 k
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,8 |1 q1 ?; y* m& l* `; w
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:  o* t" N% z+ e! t
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? 4 {7 k) ~! w+ L1 T' K! l2 \
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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. ?7 J$ T3 h! {! O; d, ^* l: |# LLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo+ L6 r! D7 t" h; f4 H6 [
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:cool:
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- B& F: C" p+ ?- \0 F9 f[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ q; A' ]8 f8 U, W# E2 p5 |
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"
! t* P1 U/ d0 \8 LYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....: L+ J9 A4 Q8 b2 `9 S# w
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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0 B. u& h0 X% |/ }& lit's starting because we have sins......
+ c$ ?( m  O3 I; c% v& Rsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
% l( q$ Y* Z9 T" r4 z5 Mour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
" ~" Q8 w: a/ w1 \3 F) a+ J只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
' m+ {, I  b0 r! y) Q! Z用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,. F+ c; }, _& y3 |$ `7 h' E
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全  ]9 W1 A7 J" F1 ^1 D2 J5 t1 L- r
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( l( Y; S6 w" w- K7 ~- l而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 T8 d9 `+ _% \8 I' g

* c' Y8 Q5 u) f. h3 ~0 N' _1 `# X* ~導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
. Z7 G7 p( e( R* g& U% P* ^好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,! l) p( S2 q7 P& ^6 ]2 P3 h
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法0 r: R; v2 Z2 v+ Z: R7 ~/ Z( G
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...8 t6 ~9 T% F  g: ?' U
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,9 _& J1 y" |) Z( o' x; V  ^. {; [
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干* b. g1 y$ C) _" ^* b5 A+ W# r* N$ `
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以下是其他人的見解,
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$ V; r$ o4 I' _+ D/ A9 b/ }. B[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............$ j: M+ l; y1 S' G6 E
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!" n/ C* f! Y2 Q3 H9 }

# V& j. B0 r6 z不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!  y8 Y3 l' q( W& {$ C5 k

& Q( q) D) C: O; [同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:; Z' L: s: Q8 u; o6 i3 X/ B
.............信耶穌... ...
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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