Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 [1 @2 T4 G' b我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 w! G! U1 V' ~, O6 C0 S: M
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ _9 q5 A5 g9 V5 j% i道理我知道好多只係做吳到% o7 ?- V' X! H& k" X, Z
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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- z4 e. ?9 V$ L5 VNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!7 H. K/ O9 T5 L

% t. M& R$ t( L9 ANobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
- J/ ~' U! d- Wcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
  y% s7 P; t6 S. Y! G% C. p我只不過微小的基督徒.................... i* {% P4 B9 Q. U1 x% C
真的!!這不是反話
" \& [8 |9 _3 J3 u3 m: O因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,' m1 b, l" v- I; u$ T3 @3 E
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,0 t3 y8 u! }. K' a
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...& P9 G* f/ i) I2 |; F8 d
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:9 S& A8 y# y/ ~. P0 F& x
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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7 _/ O: U8 Y5 g. _7 g' MWhat a statement we have here?$ v8 v+ M- ]/ m

4 G$ h  C7 c! d& O; zJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread., Q6 e, i. Z. t$ V4 |
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:% R, q6 i0 h7 X
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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: H1 i+ H1 G) b; d4 c1 S* c"不信也沒損失"
. M5 z2 H( c- V# e2 p' H& P% n' ~Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ Z3 C, K+ I4 q4 j% Dbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD........ g3 h3 D/ U" F3 y; }8 n: Y

0 X3 `1 n; [  C9 F/ c/ Yit's starting because we have sins......
- f- x8 I; y. E. Y$ X! ?satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 8 e' V! |/ g0 Y4 E0 M6 _
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
* N  \% {# t6 T4 I5 T7 S5 w# q9 S只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,, m# d# g- t+ M4 {; M3 w
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
3 t. o. Q  Q. T. g% ?- {這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
1 `4 s" N% D& m5 P6 m& k3 u如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,2 L$ Q8 d% x, _# K/ H5 O" f
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~1 R/ C2 A; c  x2 J% B4 X9 M
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
) I2 E# W( m/ L1 k$ i9 ?: R* t好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,. q% T8 Q6 S$ x8 L! X& j, m

4 e; K( t1 T$ b: z0 H& w一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,; F6 e. _3 \$ A( ]
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法+ K) d: a8 G( ?' H7 v; [  Q
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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$ I5 _1 f# j) Z; M& D1 |7 [& S宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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/ i; R1 L& }, i, l- t吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,7 ?5 {  @) g4 e  a1 \8 U
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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  ]- U) h( i" a/ P/ ~" `% o4 e1 r3 R不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!5 D" g% q4 l/ g4 Y) b3 b6 N6 [5 U

, y# }9 k( \8 e7 f7 {+ I我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!* l  I! |( a1 ?4 c6 A1 g' z4 Y( A
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:5 [. U1 F- f0 F
.............信耶穌... ...

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Regarding the resurrection...., ^' O. `9 P1 i8 z0 K

+ D" j, t  l5 ?- F7 T& W  OActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.