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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
% G" q; X# K" i. s- `  }/ H$ J我係一個連自己都吳信的人
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道理我知道好多只係做吳到6 [9 g  B0 `: c
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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7 L9 B, p5 W' a% d3 `5 fNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 d6 z* X, C8 R9 R: {" t$ u, [

0 y; {# N# [6 t8 g0 f, Ymr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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$ `0 _! f' j$ O; ?: b4 \struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....6 Z' _' H. e/ R% d* x
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!
: u* p4 Y: r: D* @# }我只不過微小的基督徒...................  W+ t4 l9 q$ e" c% R, ^6 B# P
真的!!這不是反話: C6 J6 F7 {) b, x4 d6 d- ?
因為我是情感比理性強的人
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We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,8 D+ u; n( G8 v* U# y
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,8 ]+ t6 U& W) k4 h6 K0 O
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...; d  x( G# T' d! J0 u
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
1 Y8 K5 T  O" s% W: v8 w' T建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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5 y7 B- n- w3 w+ qLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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:cool:
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Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:$ D8 U8 k- o* ?" K
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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"不信也沒損失"# @$ X8 [+ r5 x
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
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satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us 7 o$ X6 n0 h* M8 q9 r
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"1 e) ^) I1 y- R' S5 y3 N- K( W
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,, P" ^% v; R( m2 E/ N' N5 n
用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,7 B' r- X' y1 t8 x( M- }
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全5 Y% u. ~, d6 K
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,9 e0 s, J! R+ b9 e
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,6 U4 J; Z5 C. d
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,/ N. {& N& T: P! c

3 N6 h  T3 A0 Q5 v% a一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
2 k- s- @( F$ @6 ~4 G9 Y, ]改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
& S- h8 G+ H" }7 |美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具% N9 R6 Z, V& E+ B
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,* b- u* {2 X' H1 {1 V
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干7 n9 z3 X. J6 _" d% n8 V8 C
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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3 i5 R+ z/ d3 [+ _" c# q' H[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!9 B, }2 E5 B/ Y+ n# X
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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8 n! u% N$ R' N; b. c/ \同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& E# J4 v. D- \2 a! H: p$ ]% |3 \.............信耶穌... ...
% d5 @$ R+ s; L- z$ r: \Regarding the resurrection....3 s: ^& J6 x4 C- I# W# o

7 y: z8 d$ y4 q, q2 S& M8 ?( PActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....4 T' X6 ?" `& N& l+ R
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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