Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:& o' ~4 l0 }( d- E2 {) E
我係一個連自己都吳信的人$ n, |, N) f6 s0 s5 w6 y) o5 \+ O9 \
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢& w* p  F6 H9 A7 P. x" }. b3 z
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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  K2 ~% ]8 v4 \  @$ aNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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  N, X+ i5 y1 S5 B/ ?5 T+ r: G* INobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....7 X1 Y& c! b5 O. A% _
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....3 b% n. o! T, m+ r. D
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!+ o6 [  [; `; ~+ x: n) o2 r3 \
我只不過微小的基督徒...................  r) B) O: S# V0 x3 L% L
真的!!這不是反話
+ v' P) I6 p3 ?& W+ T1 q因為我是情感比理性強的人) S( D2 ~& i: U
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
# g8 L+ P  h! o; ?以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
$ _6 s% R9 I2 S在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
+ ^9 _9 a5 f8 ]* l/ J3 ]+ P& E建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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' T, o5 A, M6 A9 k+ s& hI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.# W, j% @) g0 a: i0 B' s/ d5 U
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo2 K. I$ C0 T8 e  z

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:" D' b( Q% f9 X6 I
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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. k& _4 T1 [3 _: V1 S"不信也沒損失"+ _+ \0 B+ R0 [. [9 S/ R& r
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
/ g+ ^5 c* z4 n6 k$ Hbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......1 h$ M! l$ y: f7 T- n3 n

- E' a, ?# {$ k) I) }% wit's starting because we have sins......1 c& }" U* @4 q1 k  J: B% b
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
% s9 j! f3 E' ], f; jour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
$ A- J/ a5 l0 d1 A只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
8 c* X- Z8 `+ y3 K用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
+ m  w1 W! ~$ R9 n這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全, n' q/ L5 Q6 w6 H1 v8 W! W
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
4 V; c6 L( Z8 @. k: O而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,7 ?0 |' B0 n/ V1 P- x8 V' e
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,: e! [5 h! s$ L. w9 A0 _
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
8 k3 Y! C0 R! Q/ r8 i3 I. f美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,% u, _* q$ k0 Z. ~. @
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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. Z& f  d9 j- e以下是其他人的見解,, g7 O( A9 P' S7 T. t5 M
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤$ C$ W: b6 J1 b
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!; \5 M  J. l' Y' q

3 O+ q+ v: p) p# P* @我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!, l% T$ K! i! f( z3 X

9 [# S1 c% N; {同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
4 x. R7 e8 Q- {. a* ?3 `  G.............信耶穌... ...

7 @+ B& v' [& O1 K+ t4 E9 lRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.