Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
0 u6 H( F# H# `2 c  k/ J我係一個連自己都吳信的人0 l. p6 ]9 d% p, D# g
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢6 z/ }/ X; D9 ~+ ~
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
& y" ]+ e" V9 P4 L呢D就係做人的悲哀

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8 c/ ^/ y! D/ f' F. E7 R3 U& |) e; K* WNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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- f' I8 Z2 a9 T: zNobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....' v1 x. |' J% E. D, C0 r; k3 Y
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....5 t' a8 _2 b4 }1 [2 K8 O

' ]/ L* t: x: y2 K' X5 lstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....8 B; X2 Z: k* H0 [6 y! A
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!% d! s' n/ Z" T% ~7 G3 R
我只不過微小的基督徒..................." L( a# k2 R% M6 ^7 F
真的!!這不是反話+ l6 d/ X3 K+ q+ S
因為我是情感比理性強的人5 L  h, q4 W8 |3 T$ t
所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,: ^" N( ?3 b* ]' m) n: [
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,# m. J" |! x, Y! M, C6 E3 x
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...  J# r+ s. Z) q8 R! x" J3 r- D. n
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
, y' [3 C3 ~9 c+ X6 x7 C建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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What a statement we have here?" Z; x3 x/ T5 _

' l/ l* w$ J* PJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? % X0 k& Z+ T3 q

" ^& a# r. `5 M+ D4 I2 N# aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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9 h8 _9 o  E- `Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo4 y2 ^# p" A4 f. m
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:cool:
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
. L0 _0 ~, p; X1 R4 h9 a3 [建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
7 E% ?# A1 b5 u% {# YYes, we can't "control" the religions from others....." Z8 v3 i1 Z! t, N1 k- d3 w3 s
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
( \) J. j6 a  qsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
1 G  \# @/ p7 s3 e! `! ]our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"" R1 C+ M; s/ A8 v$ z# J
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
! ?3 x5 a: Z( @. n# n用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
# M2 A) C" U" o6 v這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
% L7 p1 r9 w! B1 j% r如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,/ V9 T1 `, R& o! L! ~: U" D
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
1 m. X! P6 G8 v  V7 q9 P好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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! t, |7 e3 Y6 B4 I- X一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,8 e$ y/ K) F: B4 _! y2 V: [3 t6 d
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,) E0 n4 o/ i; a# g
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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2 N- i( X% Y" Z8 _以下是其他人的見解,
+ t" B% a4 G6 ~( r3 }; w# ]看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............+ O6 O5 L2 y9 S6 J; ~

1 A+ k" g! x! M) n; _0 E4 Y* L: `- d信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!. E* W2 Y3 Z8 r+ e3 N6 K6 o
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!' W- _$ b3 H. ]# D

: M1 z  ]* a- u6 v同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:, k- Z# j# K: K* q. P, y" z
.............信耶穌... ...

& N. a1 p' L0 k  H' O9 r% dRegarding the resurrection....: U) h. ~; M/ G

9 m; a- X* G  m9 n4 g# AActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....& U- |9 D  o: K' J' x, v( o1 y; L

  g) i' l: U- `" ^9 `! A& QYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.