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Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:  t7 B% ^. q9 _" ^/ D
我係一個連自己都吳信的人8 ]' u. H5 b. o' d: [
又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
0 X2 r: t, Y) ?3 f( N道理我知道好多只係做吳到. S- z3 c3 ^& ]; h7 e
呢D就係做人的悲哀
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!+ R" P- k: x+ w1 N( F1 M9 U* X
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....) T- c6 F- ~/ z) y8 n( w

' g2 B% r7 r8 E* l" Imr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.
yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....! b' s- a; s3 G& D
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~
我哲學就唔掂啦!5 Q' U. H9 f4 I5 X' C
我只不過微小的基督徒...................
! K0 d* A3 n: C真的!!這不是反話
, W0 \  T5 b3 z! S因為我是情感比理性強的人
9 [7 d4 ]5 v+ q1 ]# Z$ ?所以哲學是不成的
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
! ]) u$ i0 Y8 R9 Z6 Z以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,+ Z; G1 `- m% e0 t" f
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...5 v5 B2 X! Q  H0 W, p' `6 f, O
正是萬惡之源
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
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/ ]$ a$ f: L5 HWhat a statement we have here?
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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- L. \( g4 O/ t. Z6 i( d0 \I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.0 r8 U6 V( n& q' F- ^
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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! Q- q5 T; X+ S[ Last edited by Gretzky on 2005-4-5 at 02:15 PM ]
Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( A8 J# u; u& N7 F( B& l
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...
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" U( i( `" V/ F3 f  N/ w# D; z) ["不信也沒損失"
1 P- v  q; I) \5 C, {4 z2 j/ |, \Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....8 x3 e# w1 B" o- f3 [0 V! s
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......$ `: f- Q; E; W; E' |
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
7 C/ D. Q6 F( p+ ]9 {) qour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD
We are blessed that we can watch sports, to do many things...
so be happy!
"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變,就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
3 f- k# v% y9 u8 T! Q1 M4 m只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
& ?6 i; _- h- S2 ^% ?9 d6 X用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
) k0 D! i  @& i4 n這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
* s5 l: \$ O6 R5 u3 n如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,& L& A4 d5 b! ^$ t
而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~0 V" e  F2 X6 t' z- R/ H. u5 C
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
7 F- a. F0 y* [' _- M" M* ^好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,5 T) \( J- {6 v" H  E6 _
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
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$ U/ g- X8 F& [# k& r; ?美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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$ {! ]& z1 W% C- r2 i3 o1 ^0 `" R宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干# l. F. N- L% K' Y
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以下是其他人的見解,
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http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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7 N' [$ o2 U4 v( a; Q[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]
.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............& K" S0 X! _2 ^; J. _

5 Q# m# U$ Q  x$ y" w信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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% q3 x# t& L1 W$ S不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!- y9 n( ]3 K- y, G8 x
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!- X) u% d* _! _) x0 \8 p

) ?9 l, S7 {5 @! d1 ]1 a同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!
Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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Regarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... E, w$ o, t9 R* Y9 R- K
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You don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.
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