Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
) \: k# V) r4 X6 b3 U9 Q; t3 Q我係一個連自己都吳信的人
# d* j, J" [! A: [9 F$ F% x% S又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
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呢D就係做人的悲哀

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/ C. I8 j4 n) K( X, d# D4 pNobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies..... J! ~* X: Q) }4 U

4 |% I; E) T- T' A  `mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge...., U2 V* s; i2 j6 z' S( z; [& C5 t$ d+ f

4 f- _/ A8 Q+ l0 O, \6 sstruggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....' m& P$ }$ M5 z4 ~' F
cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
5 x$ \6 j) w- ^" o我只不過微小的基督徒...................
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因為我是情感比理性強的人
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DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,0 s. G- W; l1 O0 `" I
以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,. N6 L3 ?) o' g: [- {
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...
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Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:, x( K2 s# x- O' z: u3 v
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ T/ ]  @& y7 y0 gWhat a statement we have here?+ f* D* s- b5 O

  Y  {: Q" a" ^6 [# eJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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+ N; s* [" B  D6 m7 L; O# N5 a1 O6 aI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.: D6 c$ f7 _4 W: B4 z7 A' w; w
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo& |8 p! ?4 Q& g8 k$ S' {

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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:( ~& [# I% g! I- H% Q4 A2 R# M
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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+ F4 t7 b0 n1 R5 p$ b# c6 {7 ^# C"不信也沒損失"
0 Y) \7 r  i( k! z+ w% zYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....6 Z& D( J( g# @7 y( L) u. {- l
but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......
  l) D" e0 h2 A/ H; E+ jsatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us & H9 f$ M. w8 q/ a# ]
our jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"4 A! C+ e7 a* a4 J+ w  M& T/ d
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
1 S9 `, q- j8 ~7 X用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,, D( E+ ?2 w2 l' q) a, C
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全: S6 t+ j, _( e
如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
( y" Y- r6 l; {5 f/ v而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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! |" J; F6 O2 ^. `7 q導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
4 a/ U) `, F) k# Y* }5 v9 f4 b' g好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,& k/ q( H! a0 l, l- r- E; D: B
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,7 M( a$ ^/ w+ M- I( R1 |) {
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
2 j) }( M/ i* E; n" j美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...* |* Y8 ?0 [$ e$ V6 d9 G" O5 A

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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,6 A5 E" v5 V5 \2 @/ {  E. [
信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,* W2 n3 n. I; y/ ], Q0 d
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!6 t! P2 H- v/ T$ E: ^( B; z% S
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!5 q4 x5 l' e+ ~4 d! G" w( f
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
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! {" h4 T& h. n. A' K+ k4 IRegarding the resurrection....
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Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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- f  @2 c' V  U5 FYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.