Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:  j& t$ W* Z2 |! L0 M) _3 l0 }
我係一個連自己都吳信的人
" S5 E9 U& F" u4 Y又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢; [; f. O) ]+ A+ G; ]0 z* U1 z
道理我知道好多只係做吳到
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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!3 z# y1 ^# c" a! M
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....1 h& F/ `9 T9 n9 A: n6 ]
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mr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge....4 p7 K, }3 n7 q6 N/ d  E
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
3 X/ I" S5 T$ ]& q3 Pcheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!
/ V9 ?' P/ J" l& J我只不過微小的基督徒...................
( F; F- c$ z4 H( I真的!!這不是反話
3 n, O8 n" V1 B4 e因為我是情感比理性強的人
1 X+ a* W& c( K5 c9 E4 u所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
' P9 m6 \* I1 r以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,
( V3 y* U& ?) F1 s& R8 ?在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...! P% E2 Q' t, c/ B
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:/ @, ~8 M4 \2 q) H! ?* c
建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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/ Q3 A8 }& `9 m& qWhat a statement we have here?
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. L! t: g0 M, s( f9 e  r: O4 eJust wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible?
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I do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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Looking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
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8 n# O) {. P! r& y/ `% B$ r  n' `' S"不信也沒損失"3 Y" Q* _3 L: m1 n; G$ J4 _
Yes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
: f2 h$ A7 ]3 W( Lbut if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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it's starting because we have sins......* ~: D5 E* q  O! i
satan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
5 ]( u  O& u# h3 p4 sour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求") N: u  J: `8 g- I- e3 i$ Y# H
只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
0 v- t4 g1 v- Z, [+ V, m用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,
( i4 g2 e: R  j2 D9 i這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
3 B5 c1 f6 Q, t4 N如果把神和基督之名代入中國神話,更加神乎其神啦,
5 g( I! ]4 ~9 ?/ a9 G2 N; i而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~! z$ _1 j" [% Y% y) T
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導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,
* \* A' }" s4 W6 i好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,
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一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,) s% P% l# N. g7 E0 j7 P$ e
改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法" T; P* d  I( \4 x" y+ D, H
美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...( V: h: x4 J% _/ h
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吹水吹太多了,我看不必要花時間找理據了,
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以下是其他人的見解,' q% U9 k8 a1 ]
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤  B8 U' i8 I# u* Q3 W
http://hk.geocities.com/hpkong98/buybo.htm
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[ Last edited by DXneo on 2005-4-6 at 02:17 PM ]

ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............) ]( K1 k' o" |* M4 L& M8 v
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信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!; b" \" ~1 X8 r1 `3 D) z' e

9 Q; C2 b; U; M2 @5 {不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!
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6 z/ [5 ~1 K$ d  d. v- s我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!
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同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
& \# t# O& [( q; M1 R3 w.............信耶穌... ...

/ B2 ]- D& d6 T) NRegarding the resurrection....
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9 z8 I; u9 u  W+ I* v* c. `Actually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century..... w4 O. \& s/ q( G! S, W6 _( ^  E

$ A0 `3 S* b2 p0 pYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.