Gretzky

Originally posted by austin666 at 2005-4-5 12:13 AM:
/ m6 ?: v' }0 C+ o我係一個連自己都吳信的人
1 m3 m) I+ f4 f8 ^  D又點會將自己交付俾上帝呢
+ x: S; k) x9 w0 R道理我知道好多只係做吳到3 D5 i0 S/ @) ^& w+ E6 \
呢D就係做人的悲哀

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Nobody says you have to do it to win salvation.....the notion of 'giving yourself to God' is the biggest cliche and Christian jargon of all time!" I/ v1 I$ s/ H+ t# z
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Nobody can give himself/herself to God....these are Puritian theologies....
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$ c! N1 f. o6 _. p8 h. o% ]- M* vmr. austin 666, our pneumatology is a bit off...but I admire your willingness to dialouge..... Y- N  l( N0 N
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struggle with him and try to understand him.... that's my journey....may it be yours one day.

brightlee

yes, of cos, we are limitation. and we cannot 'trust' or 'save' ourselves.....
2 [. C' P5 a$ V) B6 t" X) `cheer up.... and find the truth in HIM

pakho

估唔到brightlee對足球咁熟識~~~連哲學都咁熟~~~~~~樣樣掂~~~~

brightlee

我哲學就唔掂啦!1 U' y' I; l* A
我只不過微小的基督徒...................3 b+ E9 O) e& P6 h  t. F
真的!!這不是反話
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所以哲學是不成的

DXneo

建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失,
7 x  D3 u9 g- h  R) q- v* a) z以一本七拼八“揪”的故事,作為真理有欠理據,3 @6 F8 N" r3 w3 H% m( `$ e
在只有二千年的歷史中,不斷引起戰爭,屠殺,酷刑,權力鬥爭,強奪金錢,奴第...等等罪行,到現在還進行著...$ B. e4 g$ j8 }: S3 [; S3 n7 F
正是萬惡之源

Gretzky

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-5 11:42 AM:
! V) y; h' d' }6 X7 T$ x9 r建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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* s; p  [' B  S3 W$ E: b+ Z. rWhat a statement we have here?) M0 I; F1 D8 V' h
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Just wondering, what do you know about the syntax of ancient Greek, Hebrew and the history of the canonization of the bible? ! X7 \& l$ ^. x* s. T( L* z

/ ~# {4 B/ [8 i  j+ XI do agree with the bloodshed part....and my respond that this was posted a page ago in this thread.
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: ?, X: ^" p- ?2 p, e5 j, v2 LLooking forward to see the support of your thesis. mr/ms Dxneo
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brightlee

Originally posted by DXneo at 2005-4-6 09:42:
6 S- l4 U* U8 |8 J8 L建立在虚假,謊言上的教派,不信也沒損失 ...

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"不信也沒損失"
' d( [: K( ?; _# d9 t) `* W. kYes, we can't "control" the religions from others.....
6 I2 v, \/ W+ V) Q6 G: }but if we look positively, we should find out the truth.. of GOD.......
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! k0 W# [' p) o: ?! s, Yit's starting because we have sins......
+ s: U  k7 v8 a) Osatan dislike the creation from GOD..... (men) so .... attack us
9 L; F" p! z. }! g* N! vour jealous, our selfish.. etc... to let us unlike charatertists GOD

DXneo

"他們都見證了一個人生命的轉變，就是一位年青人的心智從謊言和教條轉向對真相樸實的追求"
, p! }  x! s. Q1 i" H7 Z! L只要把神和基督之名及不要問只要信的思想放在一邊,
! k% y0 k2 a) }, c+ g$ }: G用一些“腦”來看一看書中人的所說所作所為,. |/ y3 S& K( L' i) E7 E
這些只可說是故事,古猶太神話大全
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而中國五千年歷史也沒有大洪水浸沒全國,書要多看一點其他的~~
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8 J7 h0 E. U3 g導人向善的道理可多多學習,無理的要求或信條不肖一看,& s- P. n9 p: O9 h; B7 `$ N
好的宗教不必強迫人說認同,6 q5 O, G) q1 C9 D

: X# }7 a3 w) P; v" |8 H9 J. s一直以宗教作“尋”略的西方國家,
1 v. U( C" @- O, K  L) N$ d- I改了方式但還離不開強列排他及非教友即罪(歒)人的作法
# M7 ^- p! D) ^$ o; n美國的“布樹”更以救世信徒的姿態宣傳,開戰...
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宗教只是西方歷史上權力的道具
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信是你的事,不信是我的事,我既有言論宗教自由,與你何干
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以下是其他人的見解,5 @$ m$ z+ _' j. u+ W" j+ a
看一下神的先知門徒在記錄他們偉大信仰的錯誤
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ilovefuckingyou

.............信耶穌..............只係心靈上既寄託............
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! ~8 G! h  s& Y2 x& Q: i9 S- w- ]信左,如果開心d,積極d,咪信囉! 0每個人有自己選擇!
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+ S$ B% ~0 r- L) [  y! o* J不過唔好吹噓到真係甘"神"!!!$ u0 b) b% v" M! i/ P" Y% x
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我信"耶穌"真係出現過係世上...不過係1個自以為係"神之子"既宗教狂熱分子!!!+ S: }9 F4 ^- X8 N" C5 f2 s

8 g5 W9 i# ]2 ^) @同埋希牲左自己,成就左天主教成為地球最多人信既宗教!

Gretzky

Originally posted by ilove---you at 2005-4-5 07:06 PM:
; M& L  V* \1 `% a.............信耶穌... ...

; U0 }& U: V0 z$ S4 Y2 MRegarding the resurrection....7 w$ g! {0 j5 n8 @, [# }4 Z

  D0 i: ^5 U3 @1 j3 fActually even the Roman government had refereces of the resurrection account of Jesus. The great historian Josephus did some sociological and religious studies in the 1st Century....
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3 V/ ^9 p6 W3 g, Y2 R3 v- UYou don't have to believe...but take a look at the historical documents before putting some horrendous claims, please.