vivienna

Originally posted by 樂壇渣Fit人 at 2005-6-7 07:49 PM:
9 `8 Q( j" s7 X7 r6 [  j成太, 我想問如何挑選一塊靚既牛扒?* t6 Q6 G/ A( y2 q
有何秘訣?
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thanks in advance

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以我多年入廚經驗﹕肉身厚同林﹐少筋﹐色澤光潤﹐鮮紅色。如果可以聞既話仲好﹐但要憑經驗。多筋既話可以打打距﹐但小心如果打親D肉既話就會變質﹐變成免治肉甘﹐仲有唔好太大力打到扁曬。煮既時候最好落油﹐甘樣可以鎖住D汁。要煮幾耐係要憑感覺﹐一路煮一路想象下D熱力滲透既速度而斷定時間﹐如果乾身得濟就可以落少少水﹐但一定唔可以一開爐就落﹐如果唔係肉質會好似“拾”過甘唔得爽。急凍過既一定要百分百溶曬雪先﹐唔好用微波爐溶雪﹐溶完仲要按摩下D肉﹐所以買完番黎最好放o係下格﹐然後24小時內煮。
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以上純粹個人喜好。

Gretzky

Secret of cooking thick steak:
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Make sure you have lots of oil (olive oil better) and the pan is thoroughly hot. Dried the steak with towel, seasoned with a bit of salt and pepper...turn the heat to high....fried the steak on one side for about a min...flip to the other side and do the same. By now you should have the two sides 'caramelized', meaning the 'crust' is now burned. TURN THE HEAT DOWN TO LOW-MED or LOW...keep flipping from time to time...cooking time varies (depending on the thickness).
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" V9 g9 p, s, S) [! t% T( ZOne thing not to do: NEVER PRESS THE STEAK with your ANYTHING...THE JUICES WILL COME OUT!!!!!/ h! k' i2 p4 u# o
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I don't like the add on sauce...simple steak with marsh potato is the best.

Gretzky

Secret of cooking thick steak:5 D% x; j4 E# H" r" [' A2 C  q

: Z/ ?- o+ d0 l7 aMake sure you have lots of oil (olive oil better) and the pan is thoroughly hot. Dried the steak with towel, seasoned with a bit of salt and pepper...turn the heat to high....fried the steak on one side for about a min...flip to the other side and do the same. By now you should have the two sides 'caramelized', meaning the 'crust' is now burned. TURN THE HEAT DOWN TO LOW-MED or LOW...keep flipping from time to time...cooking time varies (depending on the thickness).- X+ a4 ^, p2 g& T' |5 P
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One thing not to do: NEVER PRESS THE STEAK with your ANYTHING...THE JUICES WILL COME OUT!!!!!
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I don't like the add on sauce...simple steak with marsh potato is the best.

singgeihot

首先衷心多謝 John Wu 兄, V妹, & Gretz 兄嘅意見 以上仁兄仁妹已經從煮食角度分享過, 等我從科学及煮食角度再同大家補充吓! K& n1 q0 V* j* W2 ~) Z" ~. A
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兩件營養成份相同嘅牛肉, 價錢可以相差成五倍, 原因一個字,  "韌"- T0 F" `3 w: N7 Y3 @  @* c2 k' H; y

( n' l+ ]4 e2 t/ U  c! n從科学角度嚟講, 動物越活動得多嘅部份, 例如 chuck (頸部与肩胛骨間的肉), shank (腿肉), 一般会筋多, 老牛嘅筋與筋之間又会有更多 collagen cross-link, 韌上加韌, 呢 d 肉都係適宜(火文), 因為(火文)会將 collagen 煮溶成 gelatin (舊式啫喱粉嘅成份), 減低韌度, 你(火文)過豬手就会知道煲嘢凍咗会好啫喱feel, 呢 d 就係 gelatin 喇, 通常呢 d 肉較平, 同埋只係肉, 唔係扒% {& k5 ^: ?3 b8 B
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咁邊 part 唔韌? rib (肋骨) & loin (背), 呢 d 地方活動得少, 筋少, 如果識煮嘅話, 係唔應該会韌, 呢 d 部位嘅 cut 適宜 dry cook, 例如煎, 燒, 焗, P; q: f1 t* W' ]
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咁邊 part 最靚呢, 當然係 John Wu 兄提及, 而我個人又好喜歡嘅 fillet mignon 啦, 通常成太会用 gretz兄既方法 pan fry, 或者用煎 pan 去每邊大火 sear 一分鐘, 再連 pan 放入 325 - 375 F 嘅焗爐焗 (tenderloin 嘅 cut 包括 chateaubriand, tournedos, medallions, fillet mignon, 及 tenderloin tips, 不過我都唔係好識分, 寫出嚟都係俾大家參考吓).
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而 John Wu 兄提及嘅 New York strip or strip loin, 一般都係用嚟 roast
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" b7 v7 ?, ?  j講翻揀扒, 脂肪分佈 (fat marbling) 係好緊要, 分佈到雪花咁就梗係正啦, 其實扒味大多數係嚟自脂肪3 I2 [6 }/ p5 e, p1 \% q9 L

0 C4 _$ I3 {- E! c' m扒面應該感覺上係濕濕哋, 但唔可以有出水 feel, 扒越唔新鮮, 出水越多
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$ U2 [3 U- L* }你應該聞得出鮮肉味, 唔新鮮嘅酸肉味係極之易分 (packing 保鮮紙係透氣嘅)
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另一樣當然就係睇睇 packing 上面嘅 best before date 啦7 a8 ?3 T0 A" S) R* O

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* ?2 k3 r- z' m(題外話: 其實新鮮 pack 好運送去超市嘅扒会放响一個有氮氣或二氧化炭嘅不透氣膠袋, 肉色當時会係啡色 [myoglobin 當時係缺氧], 一到超市就会從不透氣膠袋取出上架, d 肉即刻会遇氧變紅 [因為 packing 嘅保鮮紙係透氣嘅, 啡色嘅 myoglobin 会 oxygenated to 紅色嘅 oxymyoglobin], 呢 d 就係大家常見鮮肉嘅紅色, 但當到期嗰陣, 肉上面嘅細菌会將 oxymyoglobin breakdown, 而 display 嘅燈光亦会 induce oxymyoglobin oxidation, 令肉失去鮮紅色.)
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[ Last edited by singgeihot on 2005-6-8 at 08:42 AM ]

singgeihot

gretz 兄同 v妹既煮法係好 make sense 同埋有科学根據, 有時得閒会同大家分享

singgeihot

Originally posted by abc123aa at 2005-6-8 04:41 AM:7 T: r$ N" v8 H5 z  l- H

$ W, Z, ~5 M/ A: z3 U; e0 E' Z有時我都會咁樣,聽左你咁講就費事行埋去嚕,haha^^"

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; E7 F+ ]3 k, N/ I小心 d 好, 呢 d info 响大学教科書有寫, 唔係人云亦云架

johnwu

You guys have to try grilling steak on open fire.
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But I guess it would be hard to do if you don't have a outdoor grill.

johnwu

Another thing to know when buying steak is "aging".8 O0 o* {8 _- c# l1 N
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+ Q( h' m( u6 S7 W' TAging is a process that store the steak in a low temputare enviroment for usually 28 days or more.  This process make the steak taste better.  There are 2 kind of agina method, "dry age" and "wet age".  "dry aged" steak is more expensive and is perfered ! u, ~& S& {8 Q* v! ?7 h
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So aged steak cost more than fresh steak.  The price difference can be more than double for a aged steak in north america.  The best steak house always served dry aged steak.  So next time the you go to a resturant, you know what kind of stuff they are serving you.

vivienna

Originally posted by johnwu at 2005-6-8 09:08 AM:1 C5 x( O' V% X, s
You guys have to try grilling steak...

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i love grilled food, anything grilled is good

vivienna

Originally posted by 樂壇渣Fit人 at 2005-6-8 11:43 PM:  g1 X# R( X- P2 z: S# P$ {
問題:1 `. \) w8 z1 Q: n0 O
如果要處理大量凍肉 (例如: 雞翼, 冰鮮雞, 急凍豬牛肉等等)
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有何烹調方法介紹? (可以擺得耐又好食)

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+ K" r8 f* U1 `, O6 h; C4 e6 ^7 \我每次去完買宋之後﹐我都會將尼一兩日會用既肉分開出黎放o係下格﹐然後靜番果D就放o係上格。如果你有一大堆肉既話就最好分開幾個PORTIONS黎雪藏﹐以免每一次溶雪之後又要放番D唔洗用住既肉番入雪櫃﹐因為溶來溶去D肉會好易有菌。
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* ^$ O" y6 x$ t7 _至於煮雞翼就非常容易﹐一煲滾水加味‘圾’兩‘圾’就搞掂。如果你有心機既話﹐你可以放曬D雞翼入去一個保鮮袋﹐然後加入蒜蓉﹐糖﹐鹽﹐陽蔥﹐生抽及香料 (其實你落咩都得﹐視乎你鐘意咩味﹐但就一定要夠濕)﹐淹半個鐘之後﹐開鑊﹐大火﹐加油﹐等1-1.5分鐘﹐開中火﹐放雞翼(背部向鑊)﹐等1-1.5分鐘後(或開始乾水時)加少少水爆下D油﹐即琴蓋留小罅﹐煮到靜番少少水既時候就即刻翻轉雞翼﹐而家開始要煎趕水﹐開細火﹐琴蓋留小罅﹐時不時睇睇開始金黃色未﹐開始既話就再翻一翻﹐開大火﹐每30-40秒翻一次﹐當你覺得靚既時候就上得架喇。<<因為淹過既雞翼會易‘濃’所以加水濕煎係正常既﹐但收火前要煎番乾水>>
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雞翼煮法太多﹐我通常都唔落調味而靜GRILL﹐因為我懶得淹﹐GRILL肉有風味。1 K8 Y. @! A( O  I

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7 `$ b$ \. L* K羊脾- grill 距﹐夠野味!!!* P- R( }* X8 D; c, j3 H  ?4 F3 J

+ e) L) c( x2 L# u其實冰鮮雞係咩﹖係咪原隻雞﹖我未試過煮原隻雞﹐唔好意思。但如果係雞胸﹐斜紋切﹐後炒嫩﹐雞腿無所謂點切﹐我通常都係原塊煎﹐或GRILL。
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工欲善其事,必先利其器﹐有一個電GRILL爐﹐咩都可以煮得好好味。但一定要開大火GRILL﹐如果唔係﹐D汁逼唔到出黎會好乾。GRILL肉亦都唔洗溶雪﹐方便懶人﹐但記主開大火去GRILL急凍肉﹐仲有GRILL既野最好唔好厚過1寸。如果開細火GRILL就會失去GRILL肉既風味﹐所以簿簿地先最好GRILL﹐但又唔可以太簿﹐因為會失去肉身質感。。5 Z: Y3 y- E- z* v( r4 `4 S
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[ Last edited by vivienna on 2005-6-9 at 12:58 AM ]